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Tuesday, January 2, 2024

Constructor: Jeffrey Martinovic

Relative difficulty: Challenging (***for a Tuesday***)


THEME: DOUBLE NEGATIVES (38A: Some grammatical no-nos ... or a description of four pairs of answers in this puzzle?) — four pairs of two-word phrases are "opposites" of one another, in that each word in the phrase is *an* opposite of the corresponding word in its partner phrase:

Theme answers:
  • "STAND DOWN" / SIT UP (16A: Cease fighting [opposite of 61-Across?] / 61A: Simple exercise [Opposite of 16-Across?])
  • "HIT ME" / "MISS YOU" (17A: Request in blackjack [Opposite of 48-Across?] / 48A: Text to someone who's been away for a while [Opposite of 17-Across?])
  • TAKE OUT / GIVE IN (27A: Some fast food [Opposite of 50-Across?] / 50A: Submit [Opposite of 27-Across?)
  • GO DARK / STOPLIGHT (25A: Cut communication [Opposite of 63-Across?] / 63A: Traffic regulator [Opposite of 25-Across?])
Word of the Day: Kay IVEY (35D: Alabama governor Kay ___) —
Kay Ellen Ivey
 (born October 15, 1944) is an American politician who is the 54th governor of Alabama, serving since 2017. Originally a conservative Southern Democrat, Ivey became a member of the Republican Party in 2002. She was the 38th Alabama state treasurer from 2003 to 2011 and the 30th lieutenant governor of Alabama from 2011 to 2017. [...] In May 2017, Ivey signed House Bill 24, which would permit religious agencies to refuse to place an adopted child in an LGBTQ family. // In April 2021, Ivey signed a bill banning trans girls from competing in women's sports in Alabama. The bill, HB 391, sponsored by Representative Scott Stadthagen, bans K-12 sports teams from participating in trans-inclusive athletic events. It passed the Alabama House 74-19 and the Alabama Senate 25-5. // In April 2022, Ivey signed two bills related to transgender issues into law. One bans doctors from providing gender-affirming medical care to anyone under 19 and would subject doctors to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $15,000 for providing such treatments. In a statement, Ivey said, "There are very real challenges facing our young people, especially with today’s societal pressures and modern culture" and "I believe very strongly that if the Good Lord made you a boy, you are a boy, and if he made you a girl, you are a girl." The other law requires students to use the bathrooms of their birth sex. The bill was amended in the Senate to prevent discussions of sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through fifth grade, modeled after Florida's Parental Rights in Education Act. // In August 2018, after the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling that blocked the Alabama Unborn Child Protection from Dismemberment Act, Ivey reflected on her support for the state law while serving as lieutenant governor and said, "we should not let this discourage our steadfast commitment to protect the lives of the unborn, even if that means taking this case to the U.S. Supreme Court." She added that the ruling "clearly demonstrates why we need conservative justices on the Supreme Court" and expressed her support for the confirmation of Justice Brett Kavanaugh. (wikipedia)
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First of all, though I care nothing for college football, I just want to say, today, as always: Go Blue.

As for this puzzle, it was pretty dismal right from the start. The fill alone made me stop, very early, and just take a deep breath to prepare myself for the onslaught of short junk that I seemed to be in for. AMAS?! Two tired acronyms (EPA PETA)? ADWAR? All to hold up ... what, LEMON SODA? I think ONTOE was the point (!) at which I really had to take a sip of water (I had had the "T" and wrote in LITHE, a much Much better answer for 14D: Like a ballerina, often—always hurts to find out that you're perfectly good answer is a wrong one, but it hurts even more when that "right" one is horrid). And this bad-short-fill feature of the puzzle mostly never lets up. ATIT SEEIT OVATE ONO UMS AGHA ADA TREYS ad infinitum. The theme doesn't offer much in the way of longer answers, and so the whole grid just feels choked with gunk. So the "oh no" feeling started early, well before I even got to the theme, which ... [more exasperated sighing]. The crossreferencing is so clunky, clumsy, annoying. And the crossreferencing comes with brackets and question marks and absolutely none of it is landing. Luckily, you don't actually *need* all that bracketed junk to solve the theme answers, but since it's there, cluttering up the clues, you do have to deal with it ("is this meaningful? what does this mean? why am I being pelted with cross-references?"). So many things not to like. Those theme clues kept trying to send me all over the grid, *and* they were cutesy, **and** it turns out I didn't even need to follow those cross-references all over the grid, since they don't actually help you get the theme answers—if anything, they just add confusion. All that [Opposite of such and such an answer, question mark?] nonsense was just so you would (ultimately) see the constructor's accomplishment. You can't use it to solve the puzzle. Not really. I guess you could, in theory, but the point is that all that bracketed [Opposite of] jazz is just decorative, from a solving standpoint. Although "decorative" generally implies pleasing adornment, and those bracketed bits in the theme clues were ... well, the opposite of pleasing. There was no part of the theme that was pleasing, beyond a brief "oh" when I (kinda? I think?) got what DOUBLE NEGATIVES was supposed to mean: each theme answer has two words that are (in other contexts) negatives of the words in another, corresponding theme answer. A long, awkward, clunky, confusing way to go for a mild "aha."


I would say that only an uncurated wordlist could cough up stuff like SELLATHON but then if you're using software ... that's supposed to help minimize all the cruddy short stuff. GESTE, my lord, it's a Tuesday in the year 2024, why am I dealing with not just bad fill but the bad fill of yesteryear? And then you had to go and stick the ghoulish Kay IVEY in there ... for good measure?? (see "Word of the Day," above). The two long Downs today are strong, and the theme concept *seems* viable, on its face, but in practice ... that cross-reference / bracketing / question mark avalanche ... it was so ungainly, so user-unfriendly ... I don't know. This puzzle seemed like it was built to show off what the constructor had done, not to be an enjoyable experience for the solver.


I had DEAL-A-THON before SELLATHON because why not, it's all made up, I've heard both, and to the extent that I "like" either term, I like DEAL-A-THON better, perhaps because it reminds me of DEAL-A-MEAL, which was a Richard Simmons-sponsored diet program from the '80s (not that I like diet programs, I just like thinking about goofy products of yore). SELLATHON sounds like "telethon," which is maybe the point. Looks like it's much more common than DEAL-A-THON. Honestly, I can't believe I've "researching" this right now, so I'm going to stop and move on. 


I got slowed down most by SELLATHON, and then the revealer, which I wanted to be SPLIT INFINITIVES and DANGLING-something-or-other before I finally parsed DOUBLE NEGATIVES. I also got held up by what seemed (to my mind) a weird clue for SOUL (23D: Inner self, in religion). I was looking for some technical term. Something less everyday. It's an ordinary term, but the "in religion" really seemed to scream "technical" or "specialized," so that threw me. I wanted something like, I dunno, ANIMA? Is your SOUL your "Inner self?" Somehow, that doesn't seem quite accurate for SOUL, and oh look, now I see why the clue feels awkward—it's because the puzzle thought it would be cute to do that Clue Twins! thing it does sometimes. That is, it decided to have the SOUL clue echo the EGO clue (20D: Inner self, in psychology). This Clue Twins! thing so so so so so often results in one of the clues being absolutely ill-fitting, and so it was today. MOPER! I am a MOPER because of how bad the fill is in this puzzle. ETNA! ALMA! REA! I'm developing a crosswordese-shouting tic. Gotta stop before my head starts to THROB


Gonna soothe myself with more Holiday Pet Pics now ("Holiday" has been extended through this whole week). Mostly dogs today, so let's start with the cat, whose picture comes with its own caption. This is Bella, who appears to be a train robber:


Here's a trio of dogs looking lovingly into your eyes, please give them your attention:

[Woody knows he has an irresistible woofy face and he uses it to his advantage, smart boy (thanks, Matthew)]

[I don't know this baby's name, but the verdict is: innocent (thanks, Janet)]

[Y'all are killing me with the smushy pupper faces today! This is Nami (thanks, Chuck)]

And now a pair of pairs. But don't call them DOUBLE NEGATIVES! If you do, they will probably bark sadly and then become MOPERS and you would not want that on your conscience...

[Lily & Henry! OMG so dapper. Just need two more for a Bark-ershop Quartet! (thanks, Carol)]

[Cadell & Sasha! The lab pureness here ... "We exist to be good and we are good and we will do what you say but one thing first, is that a ball? and also are there treats? Oh, was that two things? I'm a dog I can't count THROW THE BALL!" ... thanks, Bridget ... makes me miss my Gabby]

[Me & Gabby (2008-2020) my forever good dog]

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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78 comments:

SouthsideJohnny 6:29 AM  

I just ignored the theme (as I frequently do anyway) and bulled my way through it. Agree that cross-referencing clues in general is annoying and Rex rightly pointed out that turning it into a whole theme just exacerbates the situation. So the new year is kicking off in a manner consistent with how the last quarter of 2023 played out - mostly sub-par efforts with an occasional gem here and there.

Lewis 6:34 AM  

Just a heads up..

Tomorrow, I'll be posting my favorite original clues of 2023, and it was a very good year on that front!

Conrad 6:43 AM  


@Southside: Me too. I tried to avoid reading the theme clues and let those answers fill themselves in.

@Lewis: I can't wait!

Got hung up briefly on Eco vs. EPA at 1A and then lo and behold! We had the other one a 54A!
Briefly considered OVoid before OVATE at 43A
gEt IT before SEE IT at 49D

Overall, Easy-Medium.

Bob Mills 6:45 AM  

I liked the puzzle more than Rex Parker did. The theme didn't help me solve it, but it was well thought out and consistent. I'd offer one mild objection...nobody in Hollywood says, 'The Oscar goes to..." It's called an Academy Award.

Kid Phoneme 7:01 AM  

The SW was the only thing that really put up any resistance for me today, (because I decided the opposite of TAKEOUT might be passIN). Kinda surprised Rex could summon a rant for this one. It's pretty milquetoast.

I tried going downs only, which got me about halfway through. ADWAR raised my eyebrows a little, as I blindly slotted it in. "Is this really a thing?" It is today.

I kinda liked the EGO/SOUL clues, and I loved rigamarole. What's a better word than rigamarole; Gobbledegook? Malarkey? These aurally cattywampus words are the fun, galumphing kind of sesquipedalian.

Oh wait, UTERI was in the grid? And it's balanced symmetrically with OVATE.

How . . . CUTE.


kitshef 7:20 AM  

Excellent theme and all the themers work beautifully. But why did the cluing have to be so straightforward? It’s not Monday – give us a little to work at.

Other than the kealoa row of alma/dura, ovate/ovoid, eon/era, things mostly just went right in. I absolutely did use the theme while solving. Maybe if I hadn’t it would have been more challenging.

Son Volt 7:50 AM  

At first glance the grid layout appeared awkward. I’m down with the big guy’s critique of the fill - something like MOPER can turn a puzzle on its own. Cute enough theme but a rough go overall.

Don’t EASE me in

Anonymous 7:58 AM  

Easy…Ovoid before ovate. Enjoyed the theme.

Dr.A 8:08 AM  

As if it was not bad enough it’s RIGMAROLE not RIGAMAROLE. I get that language changes over time and the wrong thing becomes the right thing by virtue of enough people using it but in a puzzle I feel like they should get it right. Ok, rant over, no I’m not gonna die on the hill but it bugged me.
Thanks for extending the Pet Pics.

Anonymous 8:09 AM  

I enjoyed this XW. Found it to be easy. Had no issue with SELLATHON. I did use the theme to grok some answers. Different experience than our fearless leader. —SoCal Craig

Anonymous 8:22 AM  

If you watch the Oscars, all the presenters say "and the Oscar goes to . . . ". Very much in the language

Lewis 8:26 AM  

Three things I liked very much.

First, what a splendid theme! I love word quirks, and here we have in-the-language phrase pairs whose elements are opposites. Hah! New to me and très cool!

Second, I adore that this theme gives riddles to crack. After revealing the first theme pair and seeing what was going on, it was great fun to uncover a theme answer and guess at its partner.

These two things alone brought a big thumbs up, but then there was an additional gift to my brain, which relishes work. Such as in the NW for me, where I had confidently slapped in ECO for EPA, LITHE for ON TOE, and HONOR for OSCAR. That provided a lovely tangle for my brain to deal with.

Lots of loveliness, therefore, for me, in your creation, Jeffrey. Thank you so much for making this!

Andy Freude 8:30 AM  

Ignored the brackets, discovered the theme on my own, and had a fun few minutes, as much as I ever hope for on a Tuesday.
I agree with Rex about the unpleasantness of encountering current politicians in the grid. Impossible to name one who won’t make somebody groan. Today my consolation is knowing that in only a few years from now someone will find this puzzle in the archive and have absolutely no idea who that forgotten personage might have been.

Anonymous 8:30 AM  

not a personal best, but found this one to be easy none the less.

Rachel 8:50 AM  

After getting HIT ME I saw the clue for the cross reference and really really wanted it to be HIT ME UP. When it wasn't, I got mad at the puzzle and didn't like it anymore.

efrex 8:51 AM  

Oof; think somebody needs a nap to recover from the New Year's Eve letdown. Agree that there's a lot of crud, but the theme + revealer worked just fine for me, and was useful in solving. RIGAMAROLE is just a fun word, and I solve sequentially early in the week, so the twin cluings for EGO/SOUL were fine. Had OVOID before OVATE, which slowed me up a bit, but Tuesdays are the red-headed stepchild of the puzzle week, and I'll forgive a lot as long as there's something to hold my interest. Could the fill have been less cludgy? Sure, but I think the theme was sufficiently interesting to make it work.

RooMonster 8:56 AM  

Hey All !
The Revealer was off to my ears. I get the opposites of the Themers, which was pretty neat, but to say they are NEGATIVEs of each other is a bit of a stretch. My two cents.

Happy Back To Work Day. Time to start your diets, after all that Holiday foods. 😁

RIGAMAROLE neat to see. Tough to get any type of clean fill in NE/SW corners, both with two Themers running through them in close proximity. Good job, Jeffrey. Actually, the Themers are all rather close to each other. You have the Center 15 close (2 rows) to the 7 letter Themers, which are in turn close to the ones in the corners, so a bit of -ese is to be expected and accepted. Good fill, considering the constraints.

But, ONO,
No F's (makes me a MOPER)
RooMonster
DarrinV

kitshef 9:02 AM  

@Bob Mills - I'd encourage you to watch this video - it's only 30 seconds. It includes a montage of announcements of "The Oscar goes to", which is used for almost every Academy Award announcement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7XkagWdo5Q

Up until 1989, the traditional announcement was "And the winner is ...". That was changed, perhaps to avoid the implication that if one person was the winner, the rest were losers. Since then, "The Oscar goes to" has been standard.

pabloinnh 9:14 AM  

Hello ECO/EPA friends. I think that will be a large group today.

Grumpy Primate Tuesday for OFL. I'm no fan of cross-referencing but I'm not going to let it spoil my day. I got DOUBLENEGATIVES off the DO but didn't see how it was going to work until I followed the directions and started looking at the answers I already had in. Agree with @Lewis that these pairings were a nice find.

IVEY was the only name I had to think twice about, today's ghost of crosswords past has to be AGHA, and I briefly wanted Men's RES as that is what we called the all-male dorm where I spent my freshman year in college.

Perfectly acceptable Tuesday for me, JM. Just Mildly annoyed at having to skip around, and people who can't stand occasional crosswordese should find a new hobby. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Unknown 9:19 AM  

I won't join the rigmarole about "the Oscar goes to" because nobody can be faulted for not watching that yawnathon. (yep, a double negative, but striving to be a litotes). Today I hoped the puzzle was fresh when I put in "see me?" . . . . .but it wasn't. Happy New Year. Great dog pic, Rex.

Anonymous 9:29 AM  

I liked this quite a bit. The theme tickled me, and I liked that the opposite pairs had non-literal senses for most of the words, making them not exactly opposite in meaning, if that makes any sense. The revealer was perfect, down to the “no-no” in the clue. The fill didn’t strike me as excessively junky. My time was well below Tuesday average.

I think OFL is experiencing some post-holiday let-down, despite the spillover of cute pet pix.

webwinger

Whatsername 9:41 AM  

I wouldn’t go so far as Rex did by calling it dismal but since I tend to cringe at cross reference themes, I sensed trouble at the first hint of those sinister brackets hanging there and the question marks and asterisks lurking; and that oh-no feeling was unavoidable. As others probably did, I made every effort to simply ignore the theme and fill in the blanks from that point on. Obviously this is never a good thing from a solving standpoint. But as Rex said, the clues are there are and you have to deal with them to a certain extent, and it’s hard to keep from looking at that other clue which just mucks up your flow and causes frustration; at least it does for me.

But aside from that matter of personal preference, the concept is clever in that both words are opposites. It works nicely, really, and is sufficient on its own. So I got the DOUBLES part but didn’t parse how being opposites equates to being NEGATIVES so the revealer fell completely flat. I looked here to find out what I was missing. That part still not working IMHO.

Anonymous 9:45 AM  

None of the examples are double negatives. I ain't got no time for stupid puzzles!

Anonymous 9:51 AM  

I liked the commentary—a good example of the blogger’s oppositional defiant disorder. ODD. Not to criticize it— a useful way to get to the truth, even though SOUL is defined by a large number of “authorities” as the INNER SELF .

Fun puzzle with some good longish answers for Tuesday,

Sam 9:52 AM  

Huh. I liked it! Also found it easy. I thought the four themer pairs were very neat. Nice Tuesday puzzle.

Bob Mills 10:03 AM  

For Kitschef and Anonymous: I stand corrected. Maybe I was wrong because I haven't watched the "Oscars" in over 40 years. I go to bed too early now.

Dan 10:09 AM  

Regarding the revealer, I believe that "double negative," is a play on words when referring to the other answers. In that sense, "Negative" means something more like opposite. Like the way it's used in photography. Or math. So it seems totally legitimate to me.

Beezer 10:13 AM  

I have to agree with @Rex’s assessment with the exception that it was apparently “easy” for a Tuesday for me as evidenced by my time AND I groaned less as I solved it. I will saw LEMONSODA made me do an inward eyeroll. As for ONTOE…the clue was qualified by “often.” I’d say ballerinas are ALWAYS “lithe” but OFTEN ONTOE, so that didn’t bother me.

Today I learned from @Dr. A that RIGAMAROLE can be “rigmarole.” Upon Googling I see both with M-W as RIGAMAROLE. Just saying…I’m in my late 60s and have never heard anyone say “rigmarole.”

I guess my only real nit is the double negative reveal. I can see where you can’t really be “down” when your standing and “up” when your sitting but to me the puzzle is about “opposites” for both word segments of the paired answers. But I can be dense.

Whatsername 10:14 AM  

Beautiful lineup of fur babies today and especially @RP & Gabby.

jb129 10:17 AM  

❤️ The pic of you & Gabby (I remember Duchess too).

mathgent 10:26 AM  

Zipped through it. Very little sparkle, but enjoyed the word pairs a little.

I mentioned MATTE to my wife, pronouncing it MATT-ay. She said that it's pronounced in one syllable, MATT. Looking it up, she's right. Anyone else pronounce it like me? I don't speak French.

My mother used to say RIGAMAROLE frequently. I don't hear it any more. What do we say instead? Long boring process?

Pete 10:30 AM  

The toilet paper pup could be the twin sister/brother of my little girl. In fact, if you swapped out one of my shoes for the TP, I'd swear it was her. Good to see Gabby again.

About Ms Ivey - For the first time I hope there is a hell, and that she spends her time there reflecting on the arrogance of knowing what the good lord intended or not.

tea73 10:46 AM  

I enjoyed the theme and the perfect revealer. I normally dislike crossreferences, but enjoyed them today. I wonder how many other paired expressions one could make? My mind doesn't work like this so don't ask me! I was more amused by the ECO/EPA pairing since it tripped me up briefly. Agree that SELLATHON is horrible.

That first cat looks so racoonlike!

egsforbreakfast 10:55 AM  

I guess @Rex left off by saying this puzzle wasn't right on. Well, that hothead doesn't ever get cold feet about trashing a puzzle. But I've had enough of his ad hoc ad hominem attacks on ADWAR.

Having two types of trips(EGO and LSD) got me thinking about the differences. I think I'll take an EGO trip this weekend. I hear it's really consciousness-expanding.

I thought the concept was good and I enjoyed guessing what the "double negatives" would turn out to be. Thanks, Jeffrey Martinovic.

Anonymous 10:59 AM  

Middlin' solve and impression. Clever DOUBLENEGATIVES theme and construction brought down some by below average fill and revealer DOUBLEOPPOSITES would have been spot-on, although it's not a known phrase like DOUBLENEGATIVES so I guess it makes enough sense to run with

Tom T 11:00 AM  

Rex's ETNA-ALMA-REA sounds like a nasty intestinal illness peculiar to workers of crossword puzzles! "I'm calling in sick today--it's ETNA-ALMAREA."

Anoa Bob 11:00 AM  

Yikes! Eight theme answers and a grid spanning reveal in a 15X15 grid. After all those are in place, there aren't many options left for remaining fill. It's no surprise that there's a SELL-A-THON of crosswordese glue. I think that ambitious amount of theme material was the puzzle's worst enemy. It just flew too close to the Sun with waxen wings. Maybe better for a Sunday size grid.

Nancy 11:16 AM  

A really nice "Look at all the fun you can have with the English language" puzzle. To see it on a Tuesday is icing on the cake.

By changing each half of both phrases separately, you come up with new phrases that are in no way "opposites" of each other. And the ways in which they're not is a real hoot. HIT ME and MISS YOU. Wonderful!

This is such a good puzzle idea that it seems lots and lots of constructors would have thought of it. But I don't think anyone else has.

Jeffrey has wit and imagination. Kudos! Give the guy a Thursday next time!

jb129 11:23 AM  

Solved as a themeless - pretty easy.

Gene 11:27 AM  

Among the silly Rex comments is one that's just plain wrong; you *certainly* can use the theme to get one themer from another.

Nancy 11:33 AM  

Sorry, @Bob Mills (6":45), but you're wrong.

This is just one example out of hundreds.

Anonymous 11:36 AM  

This old timer is pushing 80 and has almost never seen any spelling other than RIGAMAROLE. Went right in!

Anonymous 11:45 AM  

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Etna is in Sicily and a part of Italy. I agree with Rex regarding the short fill.

Anonymous 11:46 AM  

Hated it!

beverly c 11:46 AM  

I’m in the “Loved the theme” camp. Also a fan of RIGAMAROLE.

GILL I. 11:47 AM  

DUBLE NEGATIVES....? Aren't these just plain old opposites? Ain't No is my favorite Double Negative. I always thought DOUBLE NEGATIVES fell into the bad English category. I'm a master of that. I was an English heathen according to my sweet grandmother.
Then we get the favorite word today: RIGAMAROLE. Like @Dr.A 8:08 I actually would spell it Rigmarole. Now mind you, I'm the worst English speller you'll ever meet. I also don't know what a dangling participle is.
The puzzle!
I zipped through this like a hot knife through butter. When I finished, I looked at this and thought it was quite clever. I'm still doubting the reveal, though. Can't you say DARK LIGHT in a sentence without it being two negatives? No...the English grammarians wouldn't allow it.
I just saw GOD ARK. I'm betting @egs or @Gary can make something of it!

bocamp 11:51 AM  

Thx Jeffery; you DOUBLEd my pleasure today! 😊

Downs-o (relatively easy).

Only guess was at DEMI / MINE.

Cute theme, altho no idea while solving.

LOL at self for dropping in whackamOLE. Got it un-whacked in short order, tho.

Enjoyable outing; like it a lot! :)
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On to Brooke Husic's Mon. New Yorker, with Paolo Pasco's New Yorker cryptic up next.
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Joe Dipinto 11:58 AM  

It's RIGMAROLE. Ask Alan Jay Lerner and Richard Harris.

No matter how you try to stretch it, "negative" does not fly as a clever synonym for "opposite" here. You have pairs of opposites. Period.

jae 12:02 PM  

Easy even though I had several erasures because speed. Once I actually read the down clues they got quickly fixed. Clever pairings of in the language opposite phrases, liked it more than @Rex did but he is right about the fill.

…me too for ignoring the convoluted theme clues.

Anonymous 12:29 PM  

Well, the point is, that each of the two parts of a themed answer are negatives of the two parts of the referred-to answer. So there is a double negative, though not in the grammatical sense to which you refer.

Anoa Bob 12:35 PM  

@Joe D., it is a stretch but I once had a darkroom setup and developed and printed my own black-and-white pictures. The developed films were NEGATIVES and they had the opposite shades of DARK and LIGHT compared to the printed photos. Maybe if the reveal had been clued along those lines instead of "grammatical no-nos"...

BlueStater 12:35 PM  

Gabby looks like a really good dog. And I agree: although I finished today's in near-record time, it was a mess from start to finish. Sigh.

Anonymous 12:40 PM  

Agreed on rigamarole - that alone was worth the price of admission…

Nancy 12:42 PM  

@Joe D (11:58) -- "How to Handle a Woman", right?

mbr 12:45 PM  

@mathgent: in French, matte does not have an accent, so it is pronounced as we do in English. Equally the artist Degas does not have an accent aigu over the -e- in his name, but it is frequently mispronounced as if it does (DAY-gah). Not that you asked 😉

Brad 12:47 PM  

I did remember thinking the answers were a little arcane for Tuesday but clued pretty directly. I prefer the wordplay.

I thought the theme was cute enough but I'm too novice to appreciate the rules around cluing that deeply.

SELLATHON came easy. You hear it all the time in ads where I live.

johnk 1:23 PM  

Like others, I ignored the theme and just quickly filled in the blanks.
Also,
Clue: Preacher's self assurance. Answer: ALTAR EGO.

okanaganer 1:27 PM  

Solving downs only, I finished but could not for the life of me figure out the theme. Turns out, without reading the across clues it is VERY difficult if not impossible to even guess which answers are the themers. That's okay; once again, no one forced me to solve downs only.

I think OPPOSITES ATTRACT might have been a better revealer.

The middle right is a horrible name swamp: DEMI, IVEY, NERO, and ESAU, all jammed together.

[Spelling Bee: Mon 0, Sun -1.]

Joe Dipinto 2:00 PM  

@Nancy – Of course. I included a link; for some reason it's displaying in gray instead of blue so you might not be able to see it. Just click on Lerner.

@Anoa Bob – I can see the photography sense, but this theme is taking a phrase that already means one thing grammarwise and pretending it could mean something else (dubiously, at best) grammarwise.

Ben 2:09 PM  

Once again, Rex was hoist by his own petard in his refusal to solve using the Time's software -- on the website (and, I imagine, in the app), the cross-referenced clues were highlighted, which meant that the opposites did indeed help with the solve. Personally, I found it delightful! All of the opposites work really well, my knowledge of old movies paid off, and the fill popped. Under 7 minutes on my phone! Hope your 2024 gets better from here, Rex

sarahzentexas 2:41 PM  

Yeah, but RIGAMAROLE was fantastic!

Masked and Anonymous 3:21 PM  

I was a big fan of this puztheme and revealer. Very clever twin opposites stuff.
Some of them other fillins might well be oldies but goodies, but hey -- Of the ones @RP groaned upon, the followin ones do have Patrick Berry Usage Immunity: EPA. OVATE. ONO. AGHA. ADA. TREY (not TREYS, tho). Just sayin.

staff weeject pick: UMS. Better clue: {Ending for sweet or cute?} = UMS.

fave non-themer entry, by far: RIGAMAROLE.

Anybody already mention that ONTOE could almost have a double negative of OFF-HAND? almost. sorta.

Thanx for doublin up on us, Mr. Martinovic dude. Good one.

Masked & Anonymo5Us


**gruntz**

Anonymous 3:38 PM  

Ditto. Thumbs up for RIGAMAROLE

Nancy 3:45 PM  

@Joe D -- The link was fine and I could easily have clicked on it. But what would have been the fun in that? Instead, I was trying to show off my very broad and very deep knowledge of musical theater lyrics. Mostly to you, Joe, since I suspect that whole legions of other Rexites won't care in the least. :)

Toyota Jan 4:06 PM  

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dgd 5:17 PM  

OVATE OVOID
There are so many kealoas.
Haven’t seen this one in a while
I avoided the theme clues at first like Conrad but got the gimmick fairly soon.
Thought the puzzle was easy. I guessed Rex wouldn’t like the puzzle because of all the back and forth. Hurt the”flow “
But I was surprised he found it difficult. I really thought it was easy.
In the end I liked the gimmick. Like that aspect of the English language.

Suzy 5:26 PM  

Easiest puzzle in a long time— at least for me!! Thank you!

dgd 5:42 PM  

I happened to like the puzzle

Anyway, I do have a rant
The grammatical “rule” against double negatives. Like many so-called rules of the English it was imposed on English by men who didn’t know what they were talking about, in the 17th and 18fh centuries. Shakespeare and contemporaries got along fine without them. But almost all academics in those days were steeped in Latin
So over a period of time, academics who of course had no understanding of linguistics (a field which didn’t exist then) didn’t like the disorder of Shakespearean English and decided to impose Latin grammar rules on English. Among other stupid rules, they imposed the Latin rule against double negatives onto English. As if English was some kind of math! (For centuries English speakers have been using double negatives for emphasis without the least bit of confusion but no matter).
As we can see by the puzzle that wrongly imposed rule still exists.
End of rant.

Anonymous 5:56 PM  

As someone that is bad at crosswords, the theme actually helped me a lot in filling in the grid. One of each opposite pair always gave me its partner and I managed to solve the grid with no mistakes! However, that really only helped to speed up the solve as I don’t think any of those clues are difficult enough to not get on their own.

Anonymous 9:23 PM  

The theme helped me, surprisingly! But MOPER was the worst one for me, with SELLATHON coming in 2nd. I also had DEALATHON first, hat tip to Richard and his sweatin’ in days gone by…

Blog Goliard 9:55 PM  

I loved the opposite pairs themselves; the particular way they were clued and cross-referenced didn’t do much for me though.

As for the governor (whose name was instant for me…I lived in that state for five years, then moved next door where I still reside): The way Andy Freude put it above is perfect: current politicians should be avoided, period. This is a resolution that can surely draw agreement from a very diverse range of solvers, and without encouraging things to descend into the sorts of arguments that many of us retreat into chosen hobbies specifically to avoid.

(And what are we giving up if we exclude such figures? Approximately nothing on the solver end surely. Yes, it’s a different story on the constructor end, some of those names have very helpful assortments of letters…but so do many other things that one should work hard to avoid resorting to.)

Only problem I had with RIGAMAROLE—great word, highlight of the grid—was that I had an O in place of that first A due to having plunked in OVOID.

Finally, please do continue with the holiday pets. We’re not even to Epiphany yet! (Happy 9th Day of Christmas to all.)

Anonymous 10:01 AM  

Came here to complain about rigamarole. Also, ‘you’re perfectly good answer’? Son, I am disappoint. 😁

Gary Jugert 10:12 AM  

You had me at RIGAMAROLE and SELL-ATHON. So many cute clues. Delightful. Well, except for a lotta blah 🦖 found.

Those theme clues are a mess. And don't work with the reveal, but whatever.

MOPER makes me mope alongside the appearance of ONO as it will RILE the grannies and grampas. Do you know it was 1971 when she wrote Imagine with John and she hasn't done anything meaningful since and yet if you Boom you probably still feel disgruntlement about her. That's 53 years of being mad about the Beatles breakup.

Tee-Hee: UTERI ... soo many.

Uniclues:

1 Yahoo for Yoo-hoo.
2 Garbage guru dinghy.
3 The fluffy one in a fancy hotel.
4 What you say when you really don't.
5 One where a cop pulls up alongside.

1 LEMON SODA TEXAN
2 OSCAR-GOD ARK
3 TAKE OUT ROBE
4 SLOW "MISS YOU"
5 SIT UP STOP LIGHT

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: How cows rock. TAURUS GUITARS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 2:05 PM  

Phil Ivey instead of Kay

spacecraft 11:09 AM  

Obviously Jeffrey is not one of OFNP's friends. His pan of a good puzzle is a multi-NEGATIVE, maybe quintuple or so. He grudgingly admits that the two long downs are "strong;" to me they were top-notch. As to RIG[A]MAROLE, I've seen and heard it spelled both ways. Either way it's a great word, and mayhap a crossword debut.

I thought the opposites were fine. I started to write PUTIN as the opposite of TAKEOUT, only to find an EXTRA square. Went too fast there. But this was far from challenging for me, so I was surprised to see the rating. I guess it's easier if you're having fun.

Noticed: the corners word appears in the puzzle: EASE. Another first? Clue for MINE is a little opposite lagniappe. Always like those. Birdie.

Wordle par.

Burma Shave 1:44 PM  

SEEIT NOW?

SITUP or STANDDOWN,
TAKE ME OUT LATE AT night, TOO,
GIVEIN AWL around
AND I’ll GO ATIT with YOU.

--- MISS DEMI KLUM

Anonymous 3:00 PM  

A bit more challenging than your usual Tuesday. Well done.

Anonymous 3:37 PM  

An extremely easy Tuesday puzzle! Mostly read-a-clue, write-an-answer, with a few pregnant pauses thrown in. I saw all the cross-referencing clues, but ignored them until I had finished the puzzle. Thus, I was able to enjoy all the beautiful themery at the end. As for the word sellathon: I've seen it in print many times; I've seen it online many times; I've heard it in TV commercials many times.

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