Onetime leader of the Sinaloa Cartel / THU 3-6-25 / Adriatic port city / Like one with renewed beliefs / Fire breather of myth / Neutrogena dandruff shampoo / Indian crepe served with chutney / Intensifying suffix, in modern slang / Gymnastics star of the 2012 and 2016 Olympics / Mouselike mammal

Thursday, March 6, 2025

Constructor: Kiran Pandey

Relative difficulty: Easyish


THEME: "Come again?" — four answers that express repetition or doubleness, represented in the grid by words that are duplicates of the words that precede them:

Theme answers:
  • BORN / BORN (i.e. "born again") (17A: Like one with renewed beliefs)
  • NATURE / NATURE (i.e. "second nature") (30A: The great outdoors)
  • CARBON / CARBON (i.e. "carbon copy") (48A: Exact replica)
  • DOWN / DOWN (i.e. "double down") (63A: Strengthen one's commitment)
Word of the Day: EL CHAPO (26A: Onetime leader of the Sinaloa Cartel) —
Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera
 (Spanish: [xoaˈkin aɾtʃiˈβaldo ɣusˈman loˈeɾa]; born 4 April 1957), commonly known as "El Chapo", is a Mexican former drug lord and a former leader within the Sinaloa Cartel. Guzmán is believed to be responsible for the deaths of over 34,000 people, and was considered to be the most powerful drug trafficker in the world until he was extradited to the United States and sentenced to life in prison. [...] Guzmán was first captured in 1993 in Guatemala and then was extradited and sentenced to 20 years in prison in Mexico for murder and drug trafficking. He bribed multiple prison guards and escaped from a federal maximum-security prison in 2001. His status as a fugitive resulted in an $8.8 million combined reward from Mexico and the U.S. for information leading to his capture, and he was arrested in Mexico in 2014. He escaped prior to formal sentencing in 2015, through a tunnel dug by associates into his jail cell. Mexican authorities recaptured him following a shoot-out in January 2016, and extradited him to the U.S. a year later. In 2019, he was found guilty of a number of criminal charges related to his leadership of the Sinaloa Cartel, was sentenced to life imprisonment, and incarcerated in ADX Florence, Colorado, United States.
• • •


Possibly the easiest Thursday of all time, but I made it way harder on myself by acting like I was walking through a minefield and looking suspiciously at every answer. And by making a couple of dumb mistakes (BORE for BORN (16A: Brought into being), EST for PST (31D: Winter hours in L.A.) (I know very well what time zone "L.A." is in, so some "EST" reflex must've just taken over). I also came down the left side of the grid, so the theme just ... didn't materialize until I was all the way over in the bottom right corner of the grid. Seriously, I did not "get" the theme, or even see a theme answer, until 63A: Strengthen one's commitment ((DOWN) DOWN). I was like "how is this DO-...? Oh. [Looks upgrid] Ohhhhhhhh." And then all the theme answers went zip-bang into place:


Any slowness today was a result of Thursday trepidation (I know there's a theme about to leap out bite me, I just don't know where it is) and the specific route I took through the grid. If I'd just gone over from the NW to the N and worked out BORN somehow, the theme would've (probably) dawned on me sooner, and maybe things would've been even faster. One of the weird things about this puzzle is how the overall cluing is just not up to Thursday levels of difficulty. With a very light theme that's not that hard to discern, this puzzle should probably have had somewhat tougher cluing. The other weird thing was just how light the theme was: BORN NATURE CARBON DOWN. That's the total extent of the theme: 20 squares. I know that their "doubles" are also part of it, but since those first iterations are clued straight, I dunno ... they don't play like theme, so I don't really count them. So all the real interest in this grid is in the long non-thematic Downs, which (by volume) absolutely overwhelm the theme—62 squares worth of long Down action! The theme is clever enough, but it ends up feeling almost incidental. And like I said, once you get the idea, all theme difficulty evaporates immediately. I enjoyed this one a reasonable amount, but I would've liked a little more Thursday thematic punch.


Aside from my two tiny mistakes (see above), the only challenge was remembering / spelling ALY RAISMAN's name. I got the ALY quick enough (that often appears as a standalone crossword answer), but the rest was ... well, everything between "R" and "MAN" was kind of a BLUR (13A: Make less distinct). I also couldn't imagine any [Mouselike mammal]s that fit the ---E- pattern, though E-WASTE took care of the problem pretty fast (by giving me the "W"). Though Nope is one of my favorite movies of recent years, and though I *own* Get Out on DVD, I have so far only ever watched Get Out on other people's screens on an airplane, so I just had to infer SUNKEN PLACE (not hard). Does that term exist outside of Get Out? The puzzle was so easy today that most of that answer just filled itself in from crosses. Nothing else in this puzzle rose about Tuesday level difficulty.


Notes:
  • 9A: Neutrogena dandruff shampoo (T-GEL) — they also make a shampoo called T-SAL, which is what I wrote in at first. T-FAL ... is a cookware brand. Not recommended for haircare.
  • 21A: Seller of Poäng and Ekenäset chairs (IKEA) — I'm gonna be a superstickler here and say that "Seller" is pretty much a dupe of SELL (53A: Betray, with "out"), and so that clue should probably have been rewritten.
  • 67A: Have an inclination (TEND) — had the "E," wrote in LEAN (but kept TEND in mind, so no harm done).
  • 50A: Fire breather of myth (CHIMERA) — ANORA won all the Oscars (deservedly so), so you should definitely expect to see ANORA in grids starting soon and then forever. That vowel-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel pattern will not be denied. I mention ANORA here because it was actually the *second*-best movie I saw in theaters last year. The best best was Alice Rohrwacher's La CHIMERA (which I guess technically came out in 2023, just not in my corner of the world):
  • 7D: Adriatic port city (BARI) — I would love to have a world map where the only place names on it are ones I learned from crosswords. DILI (East Timor), the ROSS SEA, ELY (the "cathedral town"), and ... this Adriatic port city (which the puzzle used to rely on a lot more than it does not):
[from xwordinfo]
  • 35D: Comedian Vulcano (SAL) — no idea ... which I'm pretty sure I've said before. I'm having deja vu a little right now. Yeah, looks like this guy was a 2022 clue for SAL as well: [Comedian Sal of "Impractical Jokers"]. I'm only writing this all out on the off chance that it will make his name stick. Probably doomed to just get it from crosses every time it shows up. Today, that wasn't hard (though that "A" was the very last square I entered in the grid).
  • 57D: Look-alike (TWIN) — and a little bonus theme answer to close things out ... see also REUSE (15A: Find more value from).
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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84 comments:

Bob Mills 6:02 AM  

Needed an alphabet run to get the TGEL/TED cross, but solved it without a cheat after more than an hour.
Absent a revealer the trick didn't occur right away, and I had "ritual" instead of (second) NATURE. I finally caught on with BORN BORN (again), which helped with CARBON CARBON and DOWN DOWN. Hard work, but worth it in the end.

Anonymous 6:24 AM  

Besides "Seller" and SELL, there's an actual dupe in the NW, with 3D HURT appearing in the clue for ACHE. That "!"-less clue made me think that the dupe was intentional and theme-related. It got extra confusing when I found the second BORN. It's not unreasonable to assume that the HURT dupe was intentional, in a puzzle with a repetition-based theme.

Can anyone explain [QB's call] for HUT? Also, last Thursday's WSJ had [Hiking sound?] for HUT and I didn't get that clue either. Are these two clues connected?

Natasha 6:26 AM  

There's a glaring dupe at 3-down, which crosses ACHE, clued as "That's gotta hurt".

Andy Freude 6:36 AM  

Thanks for pointing out REUSE and TWIN, Rex! Nice thematic reinforcement.

As a non-sporty type, I needed every cross to get that ALY person’s name.

SouthsideJohnny 6:42 AM  

The highlight of this one for me was the theme that was easily discernible and that the clues /answers to the theme entries were actually enjoyable ! Could it be that Thursdays are starting to grow on me ? Hallelujah!

The trouble spots for me were the gymnastics person (I’d rather parse together an Olympic Athlete instead of a video game character any day), and even though I saw Get Out, SUNKEN PLACE was still a WoE for me. All in all an enjoyable Thursday.

David Fabish 6:50 AM  

I'm guessing you're not American? 😁

"Hut" is the word quarterbacks in American football stereotypically use prior to the start of the play to get the center to pass ("hike") him the ball.

Anonymous 6:51 AM  

Football quarterbacks (QBs) yell “hut!” at the start of a play.

Druid 7:20 AM  

You can make this puzzle a whole lot harder if you answer 26a with Escobar.

Anonymous 7:22 AM  

Hut is a syllable (or syllables - hut hut) the QB might say before the ball is snapped

kitshef 7:23 AM  

Themeless?? If there is one, I did not notice it during the solve. And it was a fairly fast, one-erasure solve (LEgGO before LETGO), so if there was a theme it does not seem to have mattered.

Update after reading Rex. Yep, never noticed that. Three of the themers filled in easily from the downs. The only one I had to think about was CARBON, which works okay on its own. In the days when carbon paper was common I often heard 'carbon' as a shorthand for carbon copy or carbon paper,

Anonymous 7:24 AM  

Quarterbacks count and then say hut when they pass the ball back between their legs to start a play, as in “23, 65, 42, hut!”

Anonymous 7:27 AM  

“Hut” is what the QB says when he wants the ball snapped to start the play (“Down!, Set!, Hut!)

Lewis 7:29 AM  

My personal theme for this puzzle is THINK THINK.

That’s what I had to do after I had filled in the grid, having seen the repeated answers, having been suspicious of the clues to the second answers of the repeated pairs – but still not grokking the theme. “Why?”, I kept asking, “Why are these words doubled?”

Think … think … when the conceit hit me, it brought not only a terrific “Hah!”, but a wow at the theme’s elegance, and how beautifully it was hidden in plain sight.

Those moments of deep deliberation, well, that is what my brain lives for, even if I don’t crack the riddle. But what a lovely reward when I do.

I loved seenig the gorgeous CHIMERA, loved running into some sticky areas (more brain candy), and smiled at seeing CRUST on the edge.

You’ve come up with some terrific themes in your six NYT puzzles, Kiran, and I look forward to a PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE. Thank you for this splendid outing!

Lewis 7:54 AM  

As your resident alphadoppeltotter, a role I’ve inexplicably taken in the past eight years, it is my duty to inform you that this puzzle has an unusually low number of double letters, at four, where unusual is any number less than five. This is the first time this year that this has happened.

I remain your humble servant, ever on the alert.

Carola 8:03 AM  

Easy and cute. I saw what was going on at BORN (again) and expected to see an "again" phrase repeated...again and again. So the variations in the doubling expressions were a happy surprise.

Sean, Brooklyn 8:07 AM  

some days it all just comes easily.
6:53. fastest Thursday yet!

Dr.A 8:28 AM  

I had the same issue with ALY RAISMAN whom I adore and I could not believe I forgot her name! Old age, menopause, whatever, eating away at my neuronal connections. bummer. Also had the same issue with SHREW and EWASTE filled it in. I LOVED Anora, so happy it swept the Oscars. Now I want to see this other movie, thanks for the rec. Got the theme at CARBON copy and then went and filled in BORN and NATURE, which I’d been resisting. Thanks as always for the write up!

Anonymous 8:30 AM  

Cannot believe the HURT dupe wasn't mentioned (except in the comments)! One of the most egregious I've ever seen.

Anonymous 8:32 AM  

You should really watch Impractical Jokers some time. Sal and the guys are really funny!

egsforbreakfast 8:35 AM  

Or if you think the highlight of a Jimi Hendrix concert was Purple Haze!

RooMonster 8:44 AM  

Hey All !
I had the first NATURE in, and as I was getting the Downs in NE, the other NATURE began to form. Finally having no choice but to enter it, I said to myself, "How can NATURE be an answer twice? And it doesn't fit the clue?" Then the Aha! of shoelace tying being Second NATURE. "Ah! I see! NATURE twice, Second NATURE!", I said. Then looked at the first CARBON I had, read the clue next to it, saw it would be CARBON again, for CARBON Copy, and the jig was up.

Didn't get to any type of Theme for a while, started thinking today was Friday. Woke up today thinking it was Wednesday. Man, my week is all messed up.

Got a DOWN ASS in the center of the grid. With a weird ASS clue. Had eSt there at first. What a dumb ASS I am.

So, an unusual type ThursPuz. At least not an EWASTE of time.

Happy Thursday (I think? 😁)

No F's (I'm HURT!)
RooMonster
DarrinV

Conrad 8:45 AM  


Easy. I got the theme immediately, at 17A with BORN again.

No overwrites.

WOEs:
BARI (7D)
SUNKEN PLACE at 8D (never saw the movie), but easy to get from crosses
T-GEL at 9A
SAL Vulcano (35D)
Should have known DOSA (43A), but needed every cross

Whatsername 8:48 AM  

Good job SJ! The first time I ever did a Thursday with a rebus (a looong time ago), I was so frustrated that I swore off crosswords for quite a while after. But I forged on and those little hidden tricks slowly started to become more interesting every week. Soon I found myself looking forward to Thursday more than any other day and still do. I’ll probably always hate Sundays though. 😄

egsforbreakfast 8:51 AM  

I wrote to my Turkish pen pal and asked him what the lyra is worth vs. the dollar. He wrote back: I think you mean a lira, cuz I don't know what ALYRAISMAN!

It used to be that if you scored a 5 you'd be the APTEST guy around, but what with modern slang and all, you're an APT-ASS scholar.

I got the conceit very early (BORN again), but liked it and continued to like it throughout. Really nice concept, which I predict people will "trip trip" themselves to praise, Kiran Pandey.

Anonymous 8:52 AM  

You should definitely check out "Impractical Jokers"!

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

I came for OFL’s rant on EWASTE. Sorry to not have the pleasure.

burtonkd 9:00 AM  

@Andy Freud - I wouldn’t say knowing gymnasts names requires being a sporty type, just someone who checks in on the Olympics, whose coverage now includes as much human interest as sports.

Speaking of which, September 5 was another terrific movie that didn’t win the Oscar. Speaking of which, my favorite non-Oscar winner was Nickel Boys with its unique POV camera work and gut-wrenching story - along with my pick for best supporting actress in the mother, who was devastating every time she was on screen. (I thought La Chimera was terrific too)

Like Rex, it took me longer than I would think to get the trick, which was a nice unexpected alternative to the rebus squares or black square trickery. So this made for a perfect solve with the gimmick helping to break open that last third of the solving experience.

Was ERNESTO and ELCHAPO some kind of Spanish speaking strong man dupe thematic element?

I agree that the long downs were strong, and it went by pretty quickly. In short, HASSLES/PAINS/ACHES/HURTS (quadruple-dupe?)was not my experience today.

Anonymous 9:04 AM  

Ironic in a puzzle based on doubles!

burtonkd 9:06 AM  

You’ve outdone yourself today! Gymnast fibbing about getting a pay hike? “A RAISMAN, that’s ALY”

Whatsername 9:09 AM  

Dare I say I ADOREd it? ! A brilliant theme that made me wonder why someone didn’t think of it before. And while I saw the trick right away at BORN, my curiosity was immediately piqued and I had a feeling there would be SOME fun in store. I loved how, as Lewis mentioned, themers are hidden in plain sight and was delighted to see that each one of them had a different style of repeating itself. The double DOWN was especially sneaky and with the unfamiliar EWASTE, kept me guessing in that corner.

I wouldn’t call it easy but really, no big HASSLES either. One of those grids where I stumbled but mostly sailed to a smooth END. In fact, I was basically RAPT from start to finish. Thank you Kiran, this was just a wonderful puzzle.

waryoptimist 9:10 AM  

Went back over the puzzle a few times looking for the clever revealer, but no soap. Feels like constructor and/or editor took the easy way out. And Monday-Tuesday level of difficulty? They're messin' with us!

Anonymous 9:16 AM  

I got the concept almost immediately with BORN again, except BORNAGAIN didn't fit in the spaces for "one with renewed beliefs" so I gave up on all that momentarily until stuff like the two NATURES and the two CARBONS showed up, and then I had a nice delayed aha! .

Mostly very easy with only TARA and SAL being unknown names, and I guess SUNKENPLACE only appears in "Get Out", which I haven't seen because I don't remember seeing it anywhere else.

ALI before ALY, easily fixed and ETRASH before EWASTE--I was almost as smart there as I thought I was.

I was an RA in college but never thought of myself or was referred to as an "enforcer". Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing.

Nice breezy effort, KP, except a little too easy for a Thursday. I Knew Practically everything on first glance, KP, so maybe it's just a wavelength thing, and thanks for all the fun.

Josh 9:27 AM  

Finished in the center of the grid. I did not know DOSA so I had DOfA and the “emphasis suffix” in 33 down was “AS F” which I suppose is not really a “suffix” but is surely more modern

Sam 9:30 AM  

The HURT dupe in the NW is just bizarre

Nancy 9:45 AM  

How clever! How original! Loved it!

Admittedly the repetitions did make the solve easier, but the wordplay is so sparkling that I don't care. I love that all the repetitions are set up differently and I had fun trying to guess them in advance. Once I had the first BORN, I saw "BORN again" immediately from the clue. Once I had NATURE, I knew the answer would be "second NATURE" before reading the clue. And I read both DOWN clues without looking at the grid at all and knew both answers would be DOWN and "double DOWN."

Another theme idea I wish I'd thought of. Playful, imaginative and lots of fun.

Oh, I Naticked on the cross of the intensifying suffix and the Indian crepe -- DOJA? DOMA? DOHA? DOSA? Don't know, don't care, didn't write any letter in. It didn't spoil this puzzle for me in the least.

Nancy 10:06 AM  

Sundays can be a slog, @Whatsername, but not always. My favorite puzzle of all time was a Sunday and I'm going to send you the info in an email. Don't know if you have access to the NYT archive, but if you do, I enthusiastically recommend it.

I'm also quite partial to my own two Sunday puzzles, co-constructed with Will Nediger. I'll send you that info too.

Whatsername 10:08 AM  

THINK THINK. Nice! Would have been a sweet addition.

Anonymous 10:11 AM  

It isn’t in quotes so my first impulse of OUCH doesn’t work.

burtonkd 10:16 AM  

I like the intensifying suffix being your wrong guess “M”, making it -ASM:) Gary would be happy with this tee-hee-ism

Marty 10:19 AM  

Rex is so smart, all bow to his greatness. That puzzle was a ridiculous train wreck. Filled with garbage…. Had five errors/guesses to track down. Last one was ASH or ASS. How fitting. Couldn’t dislike a puzzle more. Aaah…. That felt good.

Anonymous 10:30 AM  

Man I don’t understand how anyone enjoys Thursday puzzles. Was so frustrated by this. “Why isn’t the answer re-born or born again?” I asked myself. As always, the trivia saved me. SAL was a gimme, as was SUNKEN PLACE. I guess my brain just doesn’t work the way everyone else’s does. Too much of a leap for me to make. Excited for Friday to come.

EasyEd 10:31 AM  

A fun puzzle. Got the theme at same point as @Rex but unfortunately had already filled in “made” instead of BORN at 16 across, so unthinkingly filled in another “made” next to it. Took a while to undo that mess. Also started with another mess in the middle where SLOVENS would not come to me. Luckily NATURE and CARBON came easily to mind.
I like to say I once had lunch with Che G. We were in the U.N. cafeteria line together, can’t remember why I was there. Contrary to his rough reputation, he was dressed in sharply pressed green military fatigues and hat and sported a whispy well-trimmed beard on a sharply defined face. Was hard to believe this chic-looking guy was a hard-nosed revolutionary.

JT 10:57 AM  

Is it an unwritten rule that no cue should include a word that is one of the answers? Or only if they cross each other?

JT 11:05 AM  

I assumed a cuttlefish was really a fish (it's not; it's an invertebrate, related to the octopus), and couldn't imagine it would have 8 arms, so the TARA/CHIMERA/CARBON/ARM area held me up for a while. But I look forward to Thursdays and like keeping in mind that there will be a twist or theme going on, and this one, when it finally came to me, was imaginative and fun. I would like more puzzles on the level of this one.

Liveprof 11:13 AM  

A young anthropologist made contact with a tribe in the deepest jungle that had never been studied before. She arranged to spend some time there learning about their culture. She trekked for days through the difficult terrain and finally reached the small village. Her contact in the tribe greeted her and showed her to her tent. He spoke a little English and was very pleasant and welcoming. But when she asked him about a constant drumming sound that she heard, he tensed up and just said: "Drums good; drums no stop." She tried several times to find out if the drumming had some cultural or religious significance, but each time she tried, he just tensed up and repeated "drums good, etc."

As the days went on, she got used to the constant drumming and the visit went very well. It became a pleasant background noise. When it was time for her to go and she was packing up her gear, she noticed that the drumming had suddenly stopped. Its absence was eerie and troublesome. She ran to her guide to see what was up and found him with a terrified look on his face. She asked him, "What? What does it mean? What's going to happen? What's next?" He just began weeping and said: GUITAR SOLO.


Newboy 11:25 AM  

Big ASS mistake today when overwhelmed by front page overload I assumed 31A as clued had to be POtuS…….mea culpa!

ELATEd by getting the Thursday gimmick without a Rex assist or an expected rebus. Should have been ready for Kiran’s wry grid since 50% of his half dozen puzzles have been Thursday entries; his is a byline to add to memory. I’m off to revisit a couple @Nancy Sunday grids in hopes that they provide more fun than the usual slog.

Anonymous 11:32 AM  

re: SUNKEN PLACE, yes it entered the vernacular almost immediately. Get Out was a huge movie, the visuals around the Sunken Place were striking, and the phrase is useful shorthand.

Gary Jugert 11:49 AM  

De ninguna manera, ninguna posibilidad.

I resisted that second BORN for a long time, but once I accepted the crazy notion of rebirth, the puzzle was done except for one letter. In 60 years of life in the west I've never encountered the word or concept of HALAL. I've done my research now and I've put it in a box in my brain next to KOSHER. My problem was comedian Vulcano was likely to be SAL or SAM and HALAM felt like it could be right. Oh well.

I have caught a cold somehow, but still finished this one way faster than usual after a shaky start and staring at HALAL for several minutes. CHIMERA took every cross.

I had my first DOSA a few months back and it was delicious. Giant piece of rolled up dough with stuff inside. Yum.

People: 6
Places: 1
Products: 8
Partials: 4
Foreignisms: 1
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 20 of 76 (26%)

Funnyisms: 2 😕

Tee-Hee: ASS.

Uniclues:

1 Good place to pick up coke, machine guns, and felonies.
2 Cubic zirconia.
3 Clean the hen house.
4 Sarcastic follower of "That was..."

1 EL CHAPO SHOP (~)
2 CARBON CARBON COPY
3 TEND YOKE DENS
4 SOME GUITAR SOLO (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from two-years ago: "Someday, when I am big, they will hew me down in my prime to make way for a cement diversion culvert." ACORN'S REVERIE.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jb129 11:49 AM  

While I'm grateful that it wasn't a Rebus, this was just Meh for me. UNHAND ME?? I had Avid for AGOG. At first I thought it was an error on my part, then I saw that it was the theme. Just okay.

Tom T 11:51 AM  

Being around this blog certainly has made me a better crossword solver, but today it worked against me, because I have been so conditioned to scorn repeated words in the grid! So when repeated words turned up as the central theme today, I resisted it for far too long.

Anonymous 11:55 AM  

CHIMERA also fits the twin/double theme.

M and A 11:55 AM  

Clever DOSE DOSEs puztheme. Puzgrid had many deja views.
Caught on to the theme mcguffin pretty early, at BORN [again]. This made it somewhat easier-than-Thursday to predict certain letters in some neighborin answers, I'd grant. Still, kinda fun stuff.
Also, not very many ?-marker clues, for a ThursPuz. {School play?} = TAG was about it. Ahar! ... TAG, yer it!

Was TWIN originally intended by the constructioneer to be the puztheme revealer? Just askin.

Hardest part of the solvequest, at our house, was all the no-knows. M&A is beginnin to think he don't know squat.
Today's list: TGEL. IKEA [as clued]. TARA. DOSA. HALAL. BARI. SUNKENPLACE. ALYRAISMAN. SAL.

some faves: ASS clue [ergo, staff weeject pick]. GUITARSOLO. ESCAPEPLAN. NOTACHANCE. CHIMERA.

Thanx for echo effects, Mr. Pandey dude. Cool cool theme idea.

Masked & Anonym007Us

... theme? we don't need no stinkin theme -- just jaws ...

"Jaws of Themelessness #18" 9x7 themeless runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Adam S 12:13 PM  

Yep - my 5:50 knocked almost a minute off my Thursday best (in the process removing a statistical oddity that, until today, my Thursday best was significantly slower than my Friday and Saturday bests.)

Whatsername 12:19 PM  

@Nancy: Thank you! I’ll have an look. And may I add, the only two Sunday puzzles I’ve done in years were yours.

jae 12:23 PM  

Yep, easy. I caught the theme early and it helped. UpsET before UNMET was it for erasures and I had just a few WOEs…ALY…, SAL, and SUNKENPLACE (I have seen the movie).

Smooth grid, cute theme, liked it.

GILL I. 12:35 PM  

Mirror, mirror on the wall....I was BORN again at NATURE NATURE but I didn't see you until I was almost done.

I usually don't finish a puzzle in one sitting because I get up and do other things and forget where I left off. Rex mirrored my puzzle solving experience . I, too, felt as if I were walking through a minefield or, in my case, walking on eggs. When will this little ball fall so that I finally feel a sigh of relief.....It was second NATURE for me....

ERNESTO Che and EL CHAPO....We know what happened to them. CARBON E WASTE.

My only real hold-up was Snapchat's ghost and wondering about Jimi Hendrix and what his highlight is. It does abut T GEL. He finally came into view with the duplicate crossings. Everything today was gettable....

Enjoyable puzzle that took me by surprise.

Elon 12:37 PM  

A wok isn’t really a vessel (and isn’t reliably round-bottomed), I have a hard time finding any context in which “agog” means “eager,” and I didn’t know that the ghost emoji was Snapchat’s logo. All to say, I looked at the south for a long time.

Anoa Bob 12:41 PM  

When it appeared that 17A "Like one with renewed beliefs" would be the 6 letter REBORN in a 4 letter slot, I suspected one of those multiple letters in a single square puzzles was afoot. Then the second NATURE at 30A cleared the air and I knew 17A was BORN again. Theme decoded!

As Rex says, there's really only 20 theme squares. Rather than seeing that as a detriment to the puzzle's quality, I think that it is very economical, efficient and clever and leaves plenty of room for quality fill. Bravo!

Haven't seen Anora but for some reason I like it already.

I'm a big Jimi Hendrix fan so reluctantly filled in GUITAR SOLO at 10D. I say reluctantly because I don't it's a "Highlight", as clued, of his concerts. The entire concert is pretty much a GUITAR SOLO.


Highlight of many a Jimi Hendrix concert


10D
Highlight of many a Jimi Hendrix concert

okanaganer 12:42 PM  

Halfway through, I was thinking: what's the damn theme? At the 3/4 mark I was still wondering. Then suddenly: ohhhh!! I love it when it sneaks up on me like that.

My final square was the R in TARA which I had to guess because I don't watch the Olympics or hardly any recent TV series, so a total unknown crossing a sorta unknown. Fortunately I knew Che's real name and I've been to BARI. (I think that was Meryl Streep's hometown in the movie Bridges of Madison County, and she was amazed that Clint had been there.)

I thought "Vessel with a rounded bottom" was fun tricky... for the life of me I couldn't think of a 3 letter boat type.

PH 12:52 PM  

Thursday PB. Woo. Clever theme, quite liked it.

"This is not 'Nam... there are rules." I'd like to think that the ache/HURT dupe was intentional, for extra dupery. (Huh. That's actually a word.) Adding La chimera to the watch-list. Started The Bear and enjoying it so far. Severance is fantastic. Thanks, Kiran Pandey/crosswords/commenters. :)

MetroGnome 1:12 PM  

Finally! A fun Thursday that was actually about wordplay, not a "look how clever I am" rebus gimmick! That being said, I still natick'd on unknown names/brand names: SAL, TARA/ALYRAISMAN, BARI/IKEA, and the generic/green-painty SUNKEN PLACE crossed with DOSS (along with the above-mentioned IKEA -- I'm shopping-impaired, what can I say?) kept me from finishing without cheating.

Andy Freude 1:19 PM  

I looked at the three squares and thought, “AF doesn’t fit.”

Devin Ludwig 1:28 PM  

Does ASS really count as a suffix? I didn't think it was actually attached to a word. I see it more as an adverb maybe?

Anonymous 2:12 PM  

I liked it fine, don't always grok Thursdays so this was a treat - but I'm surprised more people didn't complain about its being too easy, more Wednesday standard.

ChrisS 3:39 PM  

My thoughts as well especially for WOK. Definition of vessel that the clue is "using", 'a hollow container, especially one used to hold liquid'. So not a wok

Anonymous 3:59 PM  

ARK, which unfortunately has a K at the end.

Anoa Bob 4:10 PM  

Ark?

Photomatte 5:05 PM  

Pretty easy, didn't even see the double words at first. I gotta say, however, when I think "that's gotta hurt," I don't think of an ACHE. An ache is a mild pain. Also, when I SCAN something, I'm not scrutinizing it. I'm just glancing

Anonymous 5:45 PM  

I'd suggest that you add Elon (University town in NC) to your Crosswordese Atlas, but I don't want to see that word ever.

dgd 6:12 PM  

Anonymous 8;30 AM & JT
If he ever had it , Shortz has discarded a rule against dupes. Rex only complains about dupes he considers egregious. Shortz clearly doesn’t care.

Karlman 6:21 PM  

I know this isn’t a movie site, but am I the only person who didn’t like Anora? More like hated it, actually. Almost had to turn it off during that excruciating 12 minutes that was nothing more than people screaming some version of f*#k at each other.

dgd 6:25 PM  

Burtonkd
I read the Times Arts section. While their movie reviewers did like Anora, many thought the Nickel Boys should have been the winner. I haven’t seen either, but I personally would be more interested in Nickel Boys.

Anonymous 6:35 PM  

Same!

Anonymous 7:17 PM  

Cleaned out the kitchen pretty well, hopefully I still have time.

Anonymous 7:21 PM  

My view is that it was an original theme. It must be very difficult to come up with novel ideas for Thursday. This one was good.

Anonymous 7:26 PM  

Absolutely blistered this one, completing in :30 less than my avg Tuesday time, and 1/2 my avg Thursday time. Caught the theme right away after the second BORN, so the themes were done once you had the lead word. No idea what SUNKEN PLACE refers too, and never needed the costs for ALY RAISMAN cuz all the acrosses went in with no resistance.

SharonAK 9:31 PM  

WAs surprised to read the comments from some who finished the puzzle without being the thee. sHOw could the answer to 17 A possibly be just "born" I tried to figure out how the "again could be fitted in or if it appeared in 18A or??? That took a few seconds then I realized it w the second in a row so' "born" again'.
I was not as quick to know what the answer needed to be or 30A but it only took a second after seeing it followed a "nature" to realize second nature. Similar with 48 A.
Thought th theme fun and enjoyed seeing an extension of it in "twin" and "reuse" .

And I liked seeing "hurt" crossing"ache" and thoroughly reject the suggestion that it was an improper dupe

JT 11:48 PM  

Hmmm...

Gary Jugert 1:17 AM  

@Liveprof 11:13 AM
🤣 This was my life in music school where we were required to listen to jazz students. Gotta say the drum solos were the worst.

Anonymous 6:31 AM  

2 Tablespoons in an ounce
3 Teaspoons in a Tablespoon
16 ounces in a cup = 96 Teaspoons

Anonymous 8:59 AM  

Yep, I fell into the AS F/DOFA trap, too

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

.....before you leap???

Anonymous 3:23 PM  

Very long set up but worth the punch line. Totally unexpected to me.

Claire 3:42 PM  

Yes, I wrote in Escobar first, too.

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