Future birthplace of Captain Kirk / SUN 12-7-25 / Sister to Lex Luthor / Arabic greeting and farewell / One chain x one furlong / A urinal, according to Duchamp / Solos at a party / Crazy Horse and fellow tribespeople / Russian crepes / Personification of England, Scotland and Wales / Trees commonly confused with birches / Bit of letter-shaped hardware / Farm-share program, for short / Alter, as a T-shirt for a Phish concert, say / It's often rapped but never spoken

Sunday, December 7, 2025

Constructor: Kate Jensen

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: "Original Thinkers" — puns describing inventors or discoverers of various kinds (but also mountain climbers? I don't really understand the parameters, tbh)

Theme answers:
  • POWER COUPLE (23A: Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison?)
  • BIRDBRAIN (25A: John James Audubon?)
  • CABLE GUY (38A: Samuel Morse?)
  • MOUNTAIN GOAT (43A: Sir Edmund Hillary?)
  • MOTION DETECTOR (59A: Sir Isaac Newton?)
  • SEEDY CHARACTER (80A: Gregor Mendel?)
  • DRIVING FORCE (93A: Henry Ford?)
  • AIRHEADS (98A: Orville and Wilbur Wright?)
  • DREAM TEAM (115A: Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung?)
  • STAR WITNESS (118A: Galileo Galilei?)
Word of the Day: LENA Luthor (87A: Sister to Lex Luthor) —

Lena Luthor is the name of two fictional comic book characters in DC Comics. The first one, introduced in 1961, is the sister of Superman's nemesis Lex Luthor, while the second one, introduced in the year 2000, is Luthor's daughter, named after her aunt.

On live-action television, the original Lena Luthor was portrayed by Denise Gossett in a 1991 episode of SuperboyCassidy Freeman in three seasons (2008–2011) of Smallville, and by Katie McGrath in five seasons (2016–2021) of Supergirl. (wikipedia)

• • •

[Sir Edmund Hillary]
People who love puns will probably like this. I think. I don't know. Some of the puns are decent, but the whole concept doesn't seem very coherent to me. I think the problem starts with the title: "Original Thinkers." What did Sir Edmund Hillary "think" of, besides climbing Everest? Most of these guys (all guys) are scientists of one kind or another, people who invented or discovered ... things. But then there's Hillary, who was just the first to do something. Same with the Wrights, maybe? And Ford ... he didn't invent the automobile, but he pioneered ... well, Fordism. The assembly line. Ford's Model T was the "first mass-affordable automobile," so like the others, he's associated with being "first" (or "Original??") at something. Ford is a big name, obviously, but he doesn't seem quite as in-keeping with the apparent theme of the puzzle is concerned. Is Hillary the GOAT in the sense of "Greatest of All Time?" I think that's what's meant. I just found myself shrugging a lot. Like, the puns are fine, but the theme set seems very loose, and the puzzle seems to be trying to make up for its lack of coherence with sheer volume (ten themers is a lot of themers). Figuring out the pun phrases did involve a bit of a challenge (for a change), so that was nice. And like I say, they mostly work, as puns. They didn't seem particularly funny to me, but I'm kind of immune to puns unless they are incredibly ambitious and ridiculous. POWER COUPLE is very apt, but aptness isn't exactly hilarity. As for the fill, it's a bit below average, but only just a bit, and I'm not that surprised if it buckles a little under the weight of all these themers. Still, CERSEI GRIS EERIE IDEST INRE TSAR SSNS is a lot of unpleasantness ... and that's just the SE corner. Other parts of the grid do fare better, but not much better. ANOD, OTIC, ENROOTS ... ****ing REMEND!?!? YIPES. All in all, this wasn't terrible, but it just fell a little flat. 


Maybe we should look at the dudes in the themers systematically. What were the "original thoughts" that made them worthy of being in this grid? 
  • Edison invented the electric light bulb (among many other "power"-related things), and Tesla helped designed the modern AC electricity supply system
  • Audubon, of course, invented birds
  • Morse invented a code used for telegraphs (sent by wires or "cables")
  • Hillary climbed a big mountain
  • Newton developed laws of motion
  • Mendel was the founder of modern genetics (due to his experiments with pea "seeds")
  • Ford, we covered
  • Wright Brothers were "First in Flight" (according to a license plate I read once)
  • Freud and Jung, like Freddy Krueger (Freudy Krueger?), are big names in "dreaming"
  • Galileo looked at stars ("the father of observational astronomy")

The nature of the theme is what gave this puzzle most of its difficulty (which, as I say, was about average). I got BIRD but then had to piece together the second part, I got MOUNTAIN but had to piece together the second part from crosses, lather rinse repeat. Not all the themers were like that, but most were. The toughest part of the puzzle for me was the deep south, where I absolutely could not remember CERSEI's name (never made it past ep. 1 of that show), and I definitely could've used her for O-RING, which I absolutely needed in order to get GRIS (????). Is that Spanish for "gray?" And "gray" is a "drab color?" How is any drabber than most house colors. White, off-white, brownish ... those all seem pretty "drab" to me. Nothing about "house color" says "gray" to me, at all. Also, foreign colors, meh. Anyway, CERSEI / O-RING / GRIS had me knotted up a little bit. Other problems were relatively small, sometimes just one square. Is it YIKES (me) or YIPES (the puzzle)? Is it GAITER or GAITOR? (it's the former) (65A: Shoe covering). CHAMP or CHOMP? (38D: Bite down hard) (if you "champ at the bit" you "bite down hard" on it, don't you?) (that last question is for horses only) (see: chomping v. champing (at the bit)). I could've sworn Buffalo was NNW from Pittsburgh, but ... no, it's NNE (I always think Buffalo's much closer to Erie than it really is). 


There were also two "S" plurals that I don't think of as conventionally being "S" plurals. That is, BLINI and OGLALA both seem inherent plural to me, so putting an "S" on the end of either is ... odd (26D: Russian crepes + 37D: Crazy Horse and fellow tribespeople). In fact, the crossword has definitely taught me that BLINI is the plural and that BLIN is the singular, so BLINIS is like say horseses (I blame "champ/CHOMP" for this example). 

[see? BLIN! No foolin']



Bullets:
  • 40D: Personification of England, Scotland and Wales (BRITANNIA) — forgot that BRITANNIA was a ... person? Just sounds like an olde-tyme name for "Britain." But now that I think about it, I can picture her. Really wanted JOHN BULL here. 
[BRITANNIA]

[JOHN BULL]
  • 1D: Solos at a party (CUPS) — I know what Solo Cups are (they litter the streets in student neighborhoods on Sunday mornings), but this was still tough for me. "Solos" is disguised very neatly as a verb here. Han Solo at his family reunion, that would also involve [Solos at a party].
  • 89D: Like many couples at theaters (ON DATES) — oof. Double oof. First oof is for the non-answer of it all (ON A DATE would be bad enough, but ON DATES, yeesh). Second oof is for the fact that "COUPLE" is already in the grid and therefore should not not not be in a clue. You can dupe short words, but COUPLE is too long to dupe, too conspicuous. This answer into REMEND was probably the most face-making part of the puzzle for me.
  • 19A: Bit of letter-shaped hardware (U-BOLT) — bad enough to have one letter-shaped answer in the grid, we get to suffer through two (see O-RING108A: Bit of letter-shaped hardware). Giving them the same clue does not provide nearly enough whimsy to overcome the gag factor).
  • 51A: Trees commonly confused with birches (ASPENS) — me: "... all of them?" (I cannot identify trees to save my life—sugar maples, those are in my front yard, so I know those; and I know pines ... and palms ... and fig trees, weirdly (these were in my back yard as a child). But otherwise, I'm extremely tree illiterate. I know the names, but not the actual trees those names go with. I probably know more trees than I think I do, but I wouldn't steer toward the "Trees" category on Jeopardy!, is what I'm saying.
  • 76A: Rain on your wedding day, perhaps (OMEN) — it rained on my wedding day. Is that bad? It's been 22 years and my marriage seems fine. Is that ironic? What does "ironic" even mean? Who can say? Let's ask this lady:
  • 4D: Pest whose name is a homophone for what you might do when you see it (FLEA) — kept reading the first word as "Pet" and thinking "What do I do when I see a pet? Smile? GRIN? Say 'Who's a good boy!?'?" No idea. But it's a "pest." You flee from a FLEA. I guess you might. But if they're on your own pet, I don't think "fleeing" is gonna help you much.
Speaking of pets (and hopefully not fleas), it's πŸŒ²πŸˆHoliday Pet PicsπŸ•πŸŒ² time once again, so get those pictures of your animals in holiday settings in to me (rexparker at icloud dot com) before this Thursday, and then I'll start the animal parade, which (given how many pet pics I've received already) should continue through the New Year. Here's a preview—look how easy it is to turn your photo of Cinnamon and chewed-up tissues ...  


... into a lovely holiday greeting card!


Just add a frame and a caption and voila! The tissues are now, uh, snow! Yeah, snow. [Thanks, Janine!]

That's all. See you next time.

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87 comments:

Bob Mills 6:14 AM  

On the easy side compared to recent Sundays, for me, thanks to mostly straightforward cluing, but a fun puzzle throughout. Needed one cheat, to get CERSEI/ORING cross. YESAND didn't look right...I'd be interested in comments.

Conrad 6:15 AM  


Easy, not a lot of resistance. * * * _ _

Overwrites:
BLINtz before BLINIS at 26D. I thought "blintz" was singular, "blini" plural and "blinis" redundant. OFL seems to agree. OGLALAS (37D) bothered me too, but less.
bee before ANT for the drone or queen at 73D

WOEs:
Lex Luthor's sister LENA (87A)
CERSEI Lannister, or any other GoT character (96D)

Anonymous 6:32 AM  

OGLALAS was the last answer I put in; I had everything but the G, and couldn't figure out why Hilary would have been a GOAT. Maybe the greatest of all time, but really? He was the first, but did he scale all Seven Summits or all 14 8,000m+ peaks? I usually like puns, and some of these (POWER COUPLE, DREAM TEAM) worked for me, but most of them fell flat. I really wanted "code"-something for Morse, but whatever. Overall it wasn't very difficult at all. Except CERSEI, but I filled that in from the crosses, which were all fair. Meh.

Lewis 6:33 AM  

[Hans Geiger?]




COUNTER REVOLUTIONARY

Lewis 6:34 AM  

I forgot to mention yesterday that the misdirecting clue [It might go for a buck] did elicit a "D'oh! A deer!" moment.

Rick Sacra 6:40 AM  

Liked it a lot more than @REX did today! I found it medium-challenging for a sunday. I did it last night during the breaks in college football championships, so I have no idea how long it took me (the timer said 2:20, but...). Anyway, I loved the puns, I thought they were a lot of fun. Also enjoyed the duplicate hardware clues--and the fact that U-Bolts and O-Rings are both things I use/see as opposed to T-Nuts and I-Bars. All the theme phrases are real enough and are pretty well matched with their inventors/thinkers/achievers. It seems pretty dense to me so I was willing to put up with some gunk in the grid--had trouble at all the spots OFL did and maybe a few more--found myself restarting in fresh corners a bunch of times. So this was a challenge for me, and I enjoyed it! Thanks, Kate!!!

kitshef 6:47 AM  


Easy Sunday. One typo. I liked it a lot. I enjoy it when the theme answers are gettable, but not too easily. POWER COUPLE was perhaps too easy, but it's the first one so nice to give us the theme early. MOUNTAIN GOAT is my favorite.

I never read puzzle titles, so didn't share any of Rex's problems there.

I enjoy eating blinis and tamales, especially whilst playing with my legos with my buddies, many of whom are Inuits.

Ironsnake 7:00 AM  

Sorry, first assembly line was Olds in 1902 and previous to that, Richard Garrett in England , 1853. Steam engines, I believe.

Anonymous 7:01 AM  

I think many of these are punny, yes, and charming. Esp 43A. I had the great pleasure of meeting Sir Edmund twice at gala receptions in NZ and he was the most modest, self-effacing person imaginable. Mumbled that 'they trotted him out for state occasions like this'.

Anonymous 7:12 AM  

Sorry, first assembly line was Olds in 1902 . Previous to that was Richard Garrett in England, ,1853. Steam engines, I believe.

Rick Sacra 7:13 AM  

Thank you for your many examplars of pluralses that need more esses!!!!! : ) I do agree about the Oglala and the Blini.... that was a bit egregious.

Lewis 7:22 AM  

Hey, when I’m doing a crossword, I’m not demanding to be deeply moved or hyper impressed. Those things happen sometimes, but only sometimes, and that’s what makes them special. No, just give me a box that motivates me through wit, or humor, or challenge -- one that makes me feel afterward that it was worth doing, and I’m grateful.

A pleasing diversion on life’s path is a gift.

That’s what Kate brought me today. It was fun to guess at the theme answers with as few crosses as possible. There was that lovely riddle clue – [It’s often rapped but never spoken]. There were spots of rub that took sweet brainwork to overcome.

Afterward, some observations popped out for a gratifying denouement. The answers CHEW TOY and CHOMP echoing each other. Flashing on that very fast runner upon seeing UBOLT. Learning that four of the theme answers are not only NYT answer debuts, but worthy ones: CABLE GUY, DRIVING FORCE, MOTION DETECTOR, and SEEDY CHARACTER.

What a splendid outing! What a sweet detour in my day. Thank you, Kate! And congratulations on your first NYT puzzle!

Anonymous 7:31 AM  

John Bull is English, not British.

Johnny Mic 7:32 AM  

I have an editing question. Is it a problem that the clue for 22A contains the word "brain" and the answer for 25A contains BRAIN as well? It felt weird to me and I'm curious if the pros can weigh in on whether or not that's some version of taboo. Also, I enjoyed APR next to LOANTO.

Rex Parker 7:39 AM  

“John Bull is a national personification of England and Britain, especially in political cartoons and similar graphic works. He is usually depicted as a stout, middle-aged, country-dwelling, jolly and matter-of-fact man. He originated in satirical works of the early-18th century and would come to stand for English liberty in opposition to revolutionaries. He was popular through the 18th and 19th centuries until the time of the First World War, when he generally stopped being seen as representative of the "common man".” (Wikipedia)

Anonymous 7:41 AM  

Not sure what didn't look right about YESAND. Maybe I'm too immersed in the comedy and improv scene to blink an eye at it anymore! First rule of improv: never No, But a scene, always Yes, And. Affirm your scene partner's choice and add something new.

Anonymous 7:49 AM  

Zing!

Anonymous 7:53 AM  

It’s “yes, and” you are supposed to agree with whatever your partner says and add to it

mmorgan 8:04 AM  

I found this very easy though the top left corner really stumped me. But I enjoyed it more than most Sundays and had fun with the themers. First I thought they were going to be head-related (BIRDBRAIN came first, with AIRHEADS close behind), but no. I see Rex’s point about the looseness of the themers, but that didn’t bother me at all here. As usual, I barely noticed most of the fill, though I did roll my eyes at ENROOTS and REMEND.

And of course I wanted YIkES (does anyone say YIPES?).

SouthsideJohnny 8:21 AM  

I shared Rex’s hesitation at the CERSEI / O-RING / GRIS situation. I also didn’t know Crazy Horse’s background and of course AMOROSO meant squat to me.

The theme entries were enjoyable enough to carry the day, and made up for the inevitable strain caused by the theme density, so I count myself as a fan of this one, the CERSEI and AMOROSO’s notwithstanding.

RooMonster 8:22 AM  

Hey All !
Had LuNA for LENA, because SOVIETURA sounds exactly like it describes SOVIET ERA housing! Im taking puz as a win, one missed letter be damned!

Me, when I was still in utero? PRE VAIL. 😁

Neat idea. Take people and transmogrify them into different things. Seemed the East side people were tougher to suss out than the West side people. To me, anyway.

Lots of clues with ",say" in them. Weird things one notices.

UBOLT, ORING, where's the TNUT?

Liked all the Themers. As you might know, I'm a fan of a bunch of Themers. Technically, this would be like having 20 or 21 letter Themers, as the top two and bottom two take up the whole row. There's just two answers instead of one long one. So that gets it from 10 Themers to 6. If you understand what in tarhooties I'm trying to say!

Time to take in some SEA AIR. Oh wait, I'm in the middle of a desert. Never mind. I'd rather be in the middle of a dessert ...

Have a great Sunday!

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Elision 8:22 AM  

Hi Bob! The first thing you learn in an improv class is to always accept what your scene partner throws out there and to build on it. If your partner says "hey, look at us, we're polar bears at Taco Bell!" then even if you think it's stupid, you gotta agree and add something: "yes, and the cashier is a tasty-looking salmon!"

Hence "yes, and..." being the golden rule.

Todd 8:26 AM  

I must be dense. I Nadicked on the second L in Oglalas and low. Why are cattle calls lows?

Elision 8:31 AM  

Yes, that is not ideal.

Sutsy 8:34 AM  

I enjoyed the theme but the puzzle lost me with the onslaught of terrible fill that Rex mentions. When the groans outnumber the smiles it becomes a real slog.

Always thought Crazy Horse was Lakota Sioux.

Eh Steve! 8:44 AM  

I definitely found this on the easier side. Woosh!

DJ 8:51 AM  

I did the same.. It was my last empty box. How have I never heard of Oglala before?? And I just couldn't come up with low, although afterwards it hit me... "The cattle are lowing, the baby awakes.."

Danger Man 8:53 AM  

STRIVEN?

Anonymous 8:56 AM  

That’s a classic, but there was a Stumper clue once that’s even better - [Does as well as others] for DEER.

Dudley Nightshade 9:08 AM  

Thought it was great, but do people really flee when they see a flea ?

Anonymous 9:13 AM  

Stellar write up Rex. You get an A for the semester.

Bob Mills 9:14 AM  

Thanks to my friends who educated me on YESAND. I've done a lot of acting and directing, but never improv. Now I get it.

Anonymous 9:49 AM  

i didnt know this meaning of "low".and so i got stuck.. if you go to the oED, you can find this definition buried in a small paragraph of a full four pages of definitions for other uses of "low" . and the crossing of the tribe name didnt help me figure it out.

Anonymous 9:50 AM  

see below, it is an obscure definition. you can find it in the OED in a small paragraph in four pages of "low" definitions.

Anonymous 9:51 AM  

A crag is a cliff or a whole climbing area, not something that you can hold in your hand, as a rock climber this pissed me off

tht 9:52 AM  

No. They may flee when they see a bee, but not a flea.

tht 9:55 AM  

Yes. It's perfectly legit.

Anonymous 9:56 AM  

Nearly a third of my time on the puzzle was spent JUST on the far East- that is, the sliver between 55 Across and 92 Across. I'd never heard LOWS, I couldn't piece together SOVIETERA, and GAVEL was killing me.

Other than that, quite easy with a quite dull theme- I literally had POWERCOUPLE down in under 30 seconds.

Dan 9:59 AM  

I did also. I had Moos at first because, you know, it fits the clue, which threw me off in that section for a bit. There's just so many other ways to clue lows

Niallhost 9:59 AM  

CERSEI is one of the lead characters in arguably the biggest television show of the past 15 years so seems fair game to me. This was one of those nice Sundays where all flowed well with a slight hiccup here and there that was easily overcome. Would have preferred a little bit more bite, but enjoyed the themers and didn't think the fill was too bad. Pleasant Sunday solve. 26:28

tht 10:01 AM  

It's just another word for what civilians call "mooing". It's been in the language a long time. I don't think it has anything to do with the opposite of "high".

egsforbreakfast 10:01 AM  

Grain Elevator?
Coming attraction?
Passing phenomenon?
(answers below)

No, @Rex. Not all house colors are drab. There was a house near us many decades ago that was such a gaudy purple that we called it "statutory grape."

A lot of commenters seem to thing ORING is bORING.

Who TIEDYE up in this TIEDYE? Let me free ye from it.

Anyone mention the AIR dupe in SEAAIR/AIRHEADS? Of course sometimes SEAAIRHEADS inland and then you'll see airheads mystified by the weather.

I'm generally a more-puns-the-better type (although I wish more of my puns were the better type). So naturally I liked this quite a bit. Thanks, Kate Jensen.

Paul Hollywood
Linda Lovelace
Tom Brady

tht 10:03 AM  

Also, if you are English, then you are perforce British.

Anonymous 10:04 AM  

I also thought bird brain had to be wrong for this reason. So not good, I might just call it bad.

Gary Jugert 10:06 AM  

What Audubon went through to invent the bird: First, he had to invent the universe and make it look like everything exploded from nothing. Still makes no sense to anybody. Then after a few billion years he cooled everything down and made Earth which seems pretty easy by comparison. Then he had to invent life which oddly science still has been unable to describe how that happened without God. Maybe Audubon is god? Then, he had to invent a way for things to fly. Wings. Pretty slick. Kind of the main feature of a bird. Then he needed to make it stay outside all winter long. Feathers. Nice job. Then talons for holding onto trees or eating each other. Kinda rude. Then there’s the business of pigeons needing to eat who-knows-what on the side of highway off-ramps and still get fat, not die, and poop on everything. Not so easy although my dietary habits are similar. You gotta make them sociable enough to hold up their end of the conversation when they’re sitting 200 to a telephone wire. Then he had to make 20-ish thousand different kinds so people could keep an eye out for the cool ones and not more damn white-winged doves. Gimme a lovely female finch any day over those blue-mascara-ed clowns of the backyard feeder. And don’t forget some of them need the ability to live on pirates’ shoulders and say pithy things. Anyway, just sending a little Audubon the Inventor love out today before my regular comments. He did us a solid -- when he wasn’t buying and enslaving human beings, disrespecting Natives, and generally being a horrible human being. I think he and TS Eliot would have been besties.

Jnlzbth 10:06 AM  

Surprised that Rex didn't rate this as easy, as I just worked my way through it steadily, without many hitches (though I did have to backtrack in a few places to complete the fill, and I guess for someone like REX that means it's harder than usual). I liked the theme just fine but am surprised the constructor and editor made no effort to include women. I chuckled at SEEDY CHARACTER.

I don't understand why ENROOT is bad fill; I thought it was an interesting, unusual word.

Anonymous 10:09 AM  

I suggest Rex reads David McCullough's biography of the Wright brothers to understand that their considerable contributions were fundamental to aviation . While Ford may not have invented the assembly line, he was the first to implement large-scale vertically integrated (ie soup to nuts) manufacturing. I for one am rather surprised at his dismissal of these pioneers.

tht 10:12 AM  

"and of course AMOROSO meant squat to me" <-- Well, of course.

Actually, I think you're having us on, playing a familiar part. I'm sure you can see how much it looks like "amorous", and so the connection with "love" can't be all that farfetched.

jb129 10:30 AM  

What a lovely surprise!
Thank you Rex :)
We'll be back in a little bit after Mommy does (???) the puzzle.
Love, Janine & Cinnamon

Anonymous 10:43 AM  

I thought the Victorian-era cure for melancholy was the Steely Dan!

Anonymous 10:44 AM  

Grrr. Argggh! Crag!
Why oh why does the NYT xword team continue to use this completely incorrect “rock climber” clue?
“Crag” is a very common term used all the time by climbers to mean: the rock wall you visit in order to climb the routes on said wall.
You visit the “crag”. You climb at the crag. Whilst you are climbing, you grab “holds” (or features or edges or jugs or slopers or ledges or rails or pockets, etc). You don’t grab a crag.
Better clues?
-rock climber’s hangout
-climbers destination
-climbing wall
-a place with bolts and chains, maybe?
-where one might ascend?

Thank you for your attention to this matter,
A Climber

Anonymous 10:45 AM  

Edison didn’t invent the light bulb - don’t even invent the incandescent light bulb. He made one of the first two commercially viable (ie affordable) incandescent light bulbs.

yardlore 10:48 AM  

I liked MOUNTAIN GOAT the most and I liked it a lot (enough that I remember verbalizing a reaction), but upon reading Rex’s critiques I think this could have been even more of a highlight if “or Tenzing Norgay” had been added to the clue. It’s a beautiful fact of history that both he and Hillary refused to take credit for big mountains.

Also, speaking of OFL’s critiques, lol’d at his gloss of Audubon’s cv

SouthsideJohnny 10:49 AM  

Yea, I could have guessed the origin (or perhaps derivation, if that’s a better term) once I had it filled in, but the word itself looks like it’s a mistake - as if I said “ poobacious” for bodacious, pugnacious, or something like that. No choice but to trust the crosses (ditto for CERSEI, and many of the other propers that I’ve never heard of or long since forgotten).

I know it comes with the territory, and part of the fun of Xwords is parsing together unknowns for hopefully an “aha” here and there, but too much “either you know it or you don’t” gets to be tiresome after a while.

tht 10:53 AM  

Fairly easy, I would say. As Bob Mills said, most of the cluing was very straightforward, making much of the fill just fill-in-the-blank. A rote exercise. I just chugged along steadily until it was done.

The theme answers? Not too bad, I guess. Certainly all those phrases are in the language. Although one could quibble that Edison and Tesla weren't much of a COUPLE after all -- they were in direct competition with one another (with Edison being a complete jerkwad about it). So at best, just a couple of GUYs who each worked on the problem of harnessing electric current. As a total aside, I knew a kid growing up named CABel GUY, which I now find totally hilarious, and I've often idly wondered whether his parents simply misspelled Caleb, and so his name became ENROOTed.

(ENROOTS is not a word I've seen before. I don't think I'll be using it myself, moving forward.)

Rex said what I was have said myself about those questionable plurals. Not quite as bad as saying "deers in the wood", but still a bit questionable. I know BLIN and BLINI especially from Spelling Bee.

I had ON a date before ON DATES, which I agree is marginally worse.

Darn socks! Any socks you have to REMEND, I don't recommend. Buy a better pair.

Never heard of Amelia Bedelia, but I have heard of the actress Bonnie Bedelia.

Okay, let that be all for now. Enjoy the rest of your day.

EasyEd 11:01 AM  

Aww, felt this was a fun collection of breezy puns that were close enough in relevance to provide a chuckle or two. And the NYT app told me I finished just short of my average time for a Sunday puzzle, in other words just a decade or so short of an eon. Am a big fan of Audubon—have one of those giant coffee table toppers containing reproductions of all his paintings and as a kid I used to submit mini-puzzles to the Audubon magazine—even got one published. Thanks all for an entertaining Sunday morning!

pabloinnh 11:02 AM  

I made up a Christmas song based on "Hobo's Lullaby", the chorus goes

Not a cradle but a manger
There's a new star in the sky
Can you hear the cattle LOWing
That's the Christ child's lullaby.

Tis the season.

tht 11:02 AM  

Aw! Look at that SWEETums!

tht 11:04 AM  

"does anyone say YIPES?" <-- Yes.

Jnlzbth 11:05 AM  

I was happy to have that explained, too!

600 11:08 AM  

Help! How the heck is GAVEL never spoken?

I liked the puzzle. The inconsistency of mountain climbers vs thinkers didn't occur to me until Rex mentioned it, so it didn't bother me during the solve. I liked figuring out the themers. I'll plead guilty to enjoying puns.

Sam 11:09 AM  

I believe rain is supposed to be a good omen on a wedding day!

Dr Random 11:11 AM  

Just came on to make sure someone mentioned to SEAAIR/AIRHEADS thing. Definitely bothered me as well!

Anonymous 11:14 AM  

I walked into a house once and could see the carpet was jumping - with fleas. I fled.

Anonymous 11:14 AM  

Oglala and miniconjou

skua76 11:14 AM  

“The cattle are lowing, the poor baby wakes…” from “Away in a Manger”

Smkendrat@gmail.com 11:15 AM  

I liked it! Enjoyable for me. Always happy to see a female constructor. I tend to do better with their puzzles, too. I guess female minds think alike. Great first effort! Congratulations, Kate!

SouthsideJohnny 11:15 AM  

Nice job! I can only imagine Audubon pacing around with a cosmic clipboard going, “Okay, wings work, feathers are good, - oops pigeons… still gross, but fine, let’s go with them, it’s getting late.”

Music fan 11:17 AM  

Pretty surprised by the editing error on 39D. The musical tool popularized by T-Pain is called Auto-Tune (no R at the end). It’s a brand name and also the generic term. “Autotuner” is just wrong. It might sound the same to an unfamiliar reader, but this is an unambiguous mistake that should have been caught.

pabloinnh 11:19 AM  

I found this pretty easy and enjoyable enough but the puns just didn't quite do it for me. Didn't have the "go big or go home vi ce be " I like. Oh well.

Hello to LENA and CERSEI. I'm sure both of you are justifiably famous, but
this is my first encounter with either of you How do you do

Is an ORING hardware? is today's existential question. In my admittedly amateur plumbing career I have used various sizes of ORINGs, but they are usually made out of neoprene, and I think of "hardware" as metal. You generally buy them in a hardware store, but you can buy a lot things in a hardware store that I would not call "hardware". This nit will not ruin my day, however.

Nice enough Sundecito, KJ. I Knew Just about everything here (even GRIS) and now remember how to spell EMINEM. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Anonymous 11:20 AM  

What would you call EARL crossing REAL?

jae 11:28 AM  

Easy. My biggest problems with this one were mOoS before LOWS and OsIs before OTIC, the rest was pretty whooshy.

CERSEI and LENA were major WOEs but the crosses were fair.

Cute theme, liked it quite a bit more than @Rex did.

I watched a Quimby oriented Simpson’s episode last night which was helpful.

tht 11:32 AM  

My own idle association was with Omarosa, one of the merry band of Trump 45 but not of Trump 47 (I don't think). As someone who is studying German, I want to translate her name as "pink grandma".

Anne 11:38 AM  

This made me snort out loud for reals irl, “Audubon, of course, invented birds”

Anonymous 11:43 AM  

Totally blanking on IDEST for 126A “In other words”…. Please help. Thx.

tht 11:45 AM  

Fair question. I think the cluing may be awkward ("may" because maybe I'm misinterpreting), but I interpreted as saying that a GAVEL gets people's attention through rapping it, and not by having it speak. Or something like that.

Dorkito Supremo 11:48 AM  

I hesitated to put CRAG in for that reason. Also the musical tool is called Auto-Tune. An AUTOTUNER is something used by a specific kind of car nut who "tunes" their engine to get more horsepower (or whatever). These people are called "tuners." This sort of sloppiness bugs me.

Anonymous 11:52 AM  

This absolutely killed me as well. It's a literal brand name from Antares! It's AutoTune! AUTOTUNER is like calling a "drill" or a "saw" a "driller" or a "sawer"

tht 12:24 PM  

Oh well, and so one would. But it wasn't just one flea!

Foldyfish 12:48 PM  

Easy. CERSEI was a gimme. Well below my Sunday average time.

Foldyfish 12:48 PM  

Id est is a Latin phrase that means "that is" or "in other words". It is commonly abbreviated as "i.e." and is used to introduce a clarification or a more specific explanation of a previous statement.

Les S. More 12:49 PM  

@Anonymous, A Climber. I am not a climber. Not so good with heights. But I have always thought a crag was a large rock formation aimed abruptly at the sky. I like the word "wall" to describe it. Thanks for confirming my suspicion that the clue at 24D was wrong.

JoePop 12:49 PM  

I was also stumped in the NW corner, but after finally getting there, it really shouldn't have been so tricky.

jb129 12:56 PM  

Thank you @tht πŸ₯°

jb129 1:00 PM  

This was hard for me. I guess I just wasn't into it & a Sunday grid too :( Congrats to those who thought it was easy & thank you, Kate for making me unsuccessfully use my brain :)

Masked and Anonymous 1:11 PM  

Some light amusement to this SunPuztheme, sooo ... ok. Knowin the trick didn't make for automatic give-away of the individual theme answers, which was an extra plus.
Puztheme was pretty day-um rough on that poor Mendel dude, tho.

staff weeject pick: AMS. Plural abbreve meat.

fave hardware: UBOLT.

Thanx, Ms. Jensen darlin. YESAND congratz on yer fine debut.

Masked & Anonymo8Us

... now, to wrap yer heads around this rascal ...
[hopefully all aspects of puz access and leavin yer comments is all fixed now?]

"Heads of State" - 8x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Les S. More 1:11 PM  

"Id est" translates to "that is" which could be extended to "that is to say" or, if you want to stretch it, "in other words".

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