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Tuesday, September 5, 2023

Constructor: Alan Siegel

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: SYMBIOTIC (62A: Mutually beneficial ... or a hint to three pairs of crossing answers in this puzzle) — three SYMBIOTIC pairs:

Theme answers:
  • CLOWNFISH / ANEMONE (14A: Orange-and-white-striped swimmers that lure prey to 5-Downs / 5D: Stinging sea creature that offers protection to 14-Across)
  • TICKBIRD / RHINO (28A: "Hitchhiker" whose warning cries help a 31-Down avoid poachers / 31D: Horned grazer that provides mite meals to a 28-Across)
  • FRUIT BAT / FIG TREE (44A: Nocturnal flier that disperses seeds of a 40-Down / 40D: Ficus that produces sweets favored by a 44-Across)
Word of the Day: TICKBIRD (28A) —
a bird (as the oxpecker or ani) that eats ticks infesting quadrupeds (merriam-webster.com) // 
The oxpeckers are two species of bird which make up the genus Buphagus, and family Buphagidae. The oxpeckers were formerly usually treated as a subfamily, Buphaginae, within the starling family, Sturnidae, but molecular phylogenetic studies have consistently shown that they form a separate lineage that is basal to the sister clades containing the Sturnidae and the Mimidae (mockingbirds, thrashers, and allies). Oxpeckers are endemic to the savanna of Sub-Saharan Africa. // Both the English and scientific names arise from their habit of perching on large mammals (both wild and domesticated) such as cattle, zebras, impalas, hippopotamuses, rhinoceroses, and giraffes, eating ticks, small insects, botfly larvae, and other parasites, as well as the animals' blood. The behaviour of oxpeckers towards large mammals was thought to be exclusively mutual, though recent research suggests the relationship can be parasitic in nature as well. // The swahili name for the red-billed oxpecker is Askari wa kifaru (the rhino's guard). (wikipedia)
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Conceptually, this is interesting, but I'm not that sure about the execution. Something both dull and forced about it. The "dull" part is the mere trivia of it all. I enjoy learning facts, but somehow just having animals crossing isn't that interesting (P.S. why hasn't "ANIMAL CROSSING" been a revealer yet? ... or maybe it has, in a different puzzle). Then there's the fact that one of these pairs doesn't involve animals crossing at all. Instead, we've got a bat crossing a tree. The SYMBIOTIC part is supposed to be the bat's dispersal of seeds, but ... that ... I mean, that doesn't seem that SYMBIOTIC to me. I'm sure in some Big Picture way it is, but literally every animal that eats seeds and poops in the woods (or wherever) does this. If you've ever stepped in unidentified animal feces in the woods (or your yard, as I did yesterday), then you know this: very seed-heavy. The animal pairings feel true to the spirit of the theme, but the bat/tree one feels ... well, as I said above, "forced." Plus, though I love bats, I am in no mood to see them so soon again after my recent bat infestation (an infestation of maybe one or two, but you just need one flying around your bedroom at 2am for it to *feel* like an infestation) (please, no lectures about rabies, I get my last shot tomorrow). 


TICKBIRD is slang I've never heard, and I don't really get using it here, given that the name of the specific bird found on RHINOs is the OXPECKER, and guess how many letters OXPECKER has? Yes, the same number as TICKBIRD. There is no universe in which OXPECKER doesn't beat TICKBIRD. There is no universe in which OXPECKER doesn't beat most things. Kindly add OXPECKER to your wordlists and disperse it liberally throughout all future grids, as a bat disperses fig seeds (though maybe less messily). Take TICKBIRD out, put OXPECKER in—you don't even have to change the grid, just move RHINO over one column (to cross the "R" in OXPECKER), and bam, there you are! It's true that OXPECKER is kind of an obscure word for a Tuesday, but then so was TICKBIRD—the only thing in the grid I'd never heard of. I looked it up and M-W basically shrugged at me: "I dunno, a bird that eats ticks?" OK, they were slightly more definitive than that, but only slightly. Also, no one seems to know how to write TICKBIRD; that is, if you google it, you can find it as one word, two words, or a hyphenated word, all in the first few hits. I have no feelings about this matter. I'll just point out that no one seems confused about how to write OXPECKER.


The problem with this puzzle wasn't so much the theme as the fill, which was something close to gruesome in places. My first wince went up at RICEU. (It's Rice, it's called Rice, everyone calls it Rice, please stop) (27D: Houston sch.). And then OHSO into ORECART across ECHECK made me rewince, and just when I started recovering from that, I slammed into the worst bit of all: "'A' IS" (!? ) (38A: "___ for apple") crossing "DO SAY" (!?!?) (32D: "Ooh, tell us everything!"). DO SAY? DO SAY!? I would happily accept "DO TELL," which is a real expression, an actual thing, a thing of the highest order. "DO SAY," however, you can feed to the fruit bats ... only don't, they'll just disperse it. Yeesh. I have a big "OOF" written in the margin there. The one good thing about that terrible crossing is that the puzzle itself appears to be crying out in pain: "I CAN'T!" See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. There has, in fact, been an ANIMAL CROSSING puzzle, and (bizarrely) it also has CLOWNFISH as an answer! Anyway, here it is (thanks to the constructor, Hanh Huynh, for pointing it out) 

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60 comments:

Conrad 5:06 AM  


I agree with @Rex. Easy, anticlimactic puzzle. Thought, "There are probably lots of schools in Houston but the most famous one is RICE. How does that fit into five letters? Oh. U. (27D)." TICKBIRD was a WOE, but that's okay because OXPECKER would have been too. I guess the editors objected because some middle school boys might take the latter as a sexual reference. I had no objections to ECHECK (9D) because that's an E- term that people actually use.

Anonymous 5:51 AM  

@jberg, on my phone from Sicily—

I’m not a biologist, but I don’t think any of those pairs qualify as SYMBIOTES. When I hear the word I think of benign intestinal bacteria, or some other pair much more closely related. And since the relationship between the two organisms was already explained in the clues, the revealer fell kinda flat. But it was fun to solve, anyway.

I really resisted ORE CART, as I don’t consider coal to be an ore, but maybe they’re called that anyway.

At least the iPhone solving process is getting easier. I’ll be back on paper Friday, ‘insh’Allah.

Andy Freude 6:36 AM  

Some good things in today’s puzzle, but I did a sort of clockwise solve, which meant my final entry was RICEU, a truly unlovely string of letters. Oof. I CAN’T even.

Adam12 6:39 AM  

I’m not a biologist either but these relationships are all generically symbiotic. Meaning they’re associated in life. I think you may be referring to the further distinctions of saprophytic, parasitic and mutualistic. Thank Mr Rubin, 1979 AP Bio.

SouthsideJohnny 6:51 AM  

A theme based on CLOWNFISH and TICKBIRD trivia will have an uphill struggle to say the least. Add in the questionable fill like DOSAY and OHSO and you have a passable but pretty mediocre puzzle. Fine if you’re a trivia fan I suppose.

I see we are back to math questions in Spanish as well. Not a very good omen.

kitshef 7:07 AM  

Although the clues for TELESCOPE and NOTCH seem to have been written by a space alien unfamiliar with human language, I enjoyed this.

I like nature, so the theme and the bonuses (CLOVE, REEF, OWL, COO, ANSEL) were all welcome. Even WALLS IN makes me think of the hornbills where the female is walled into the nest and fed by the male,

Mack 7:07 AM  

Huh. I really liked it. Maybe because I knew all the theme answers just from the clues, so the whole thing was very smooth.
Didn't mind the fill, although I agree about DO SAY. Oof. I actually cringed at that.
There was a minimal number of names, and even those were famous enough to put in without any crosses, so that was a refreshing change for once.
I didn't even see RICE U until reading it here. Regardless, I have no opinion about whether it should have the U because I've never heard of it in the first place.

Anonymous 7:36 AM  

The SYMBIOTIC part is supposed to be the bat's dispersal of seeds, but ... that ... I mean, that doesn't seem that SYMBIOTIC to me.

I'm laughing a little about the idea of someone who will look up an animal name in the dictionary to see if it's real, but when it comes to a scientific concept just wings it: "That doesn't sound right to me."

Remember "I'M NOT A SCIENTIST..." from a couple of days ago?

David grenier 7:43 AM  

I don’t mind ORE CART aside from the fact that I don’t think coal counts as ore. I do, however, wish I could go the rest of my days without seeing 90s style marketing hype putting an “e” in front of a normal word, like ECHECK. Even during the first dot-com boom a literal quarter century ago I don’t think I ever heard the word ECHECK. certainly now someone just says “can you send me the money” or “can you venmo me the money” and not “can you send me an e-check”.

Bob Mills 7:47 AM  

Didn't know TICKBIRD or CLOWNFISH, but got both from the crosses. The theme was fairly remote, I thought, until SYMBIOTIC proved to be a helpful revealer. I had "dance" after "Shall we..."at first because I hadn't read the clue closely enough.

Finished it in less than 30 minutes. That's fast for me on a Tuesday.

Son Volt 7:59 AM  

Odd theme - but I liked the physical crossings. Didn’t know TICK BIRD - even FRUIT BAT was a little obscure early week.

The adjacent non-theme longs were awkward. PARER + RICE U is rough. ANSEL has been showing up a lot lately - liked both OH SO and DO SAY.

Pleasant enough Tuesday solve.

MOTT the Hoople covering Doug Sahm

EasyEd 7:59 AM  

Liked this one because I’m something of an amateur naturalist and at one time retrieved my own CLOWNFISH and ANEMONEs from the Red Sea while avoiding morays. But still had a hard time getting the FRUITBAT/FIGTREE cross. Maybe some of the terminology was not precisely accurate, but seemed close enough for horseshoes and crossword puzzles.

Dr.A 8:05 AM  

Agree completely. Also hate SCARF vs SNARF that always annoys me. Sorry about the bat infestation. That sounds very traumatic. And the rabies shots. Equally traumatic.

pabloinnh 8:12 AM  

I was interested in OFL's rant about the TICKBIRD and the superiority of "oxpecker" (wha?) because I read the clue and immediately thought "tikibird", which hey, was not so far off. Also, OFL, if you're listening, our experience with seed-filled poop usually had to do with bears. Just sayin'.

This was pretty much a "read the clue and fill in the answer" type puzzle, which is speedy without being whooshy, if that makes any sense. No real complaints except for the execrable DOSAY, which interestingly enough. said no one ever.

OK Tuesdecito, AS. Awfully Simple for a Tuesday, but thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Rachel 8:41 AM  

Unlike other commenters, I've never heard of an ECHECK. What is that? When I get checks I deposit them using my bank's phone app. Also I just don't like to get or send checks, I prefer Venmo or Zelle or CashApp. What's an ECHECK?

RooMonster 9:11 AM  

Hey All !
Neat Blocker pattern. Some odd clues, CLOVE for one. Wanted Cinnamon, nutmeg, you know, pumpkin pie spicy thingies. Is CLOVE common and I've just missed it all these years? Probably.

TROLLS clued with Tolls struck me weirdly, unsure why.

Had the _ICEU and hadn't a clue what that could've been. Got SPRINT, the ole brain grokked RICE U, and I said, "Ah, RICE U, I'm sure that's gonna get complained about."

Nice theme idea. Too bad the Revealer couldn't get a cross. WALLS IN is in the spot.

Had ANoMONE first, giving me OI_LoASES for 17A, and was wondering what the hell kind of OASES is could've been. Good stuff.

Noticed a lot of C's today, and double L's. 11double-letters today. Unsure where that falls on @Lewis' scale. Counted the C's - 17.

Speaking of...

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Chicago Chica 9:13 AM  

Ugh. Slog of a puzzle. Hate all those cross-references.

Anonymous 9:13 AM  

Well, I’m not a biologist, or any type of scientist, but I did work in the payments industry. So I’ll take this one while others argue about the meaning of symbiotic. An echeck is a payment that’s based on the information from a check (routing/transit number, account number, check number, amount), rather than the physical check itself. You’ll see this online, when you can often pay bills using the information from your checking account, rather than a credit card (I don’t recommend using that option, btw). You will also occasionally see it at a checkout line, where if you pay by check, the cashier runs the check through the register to gather all the information off of it, and then hands the check back to you. In this case, your physical check has been converted to an echeck. As with most things in life, the reason for all of this is money — handling/processing paper checks is expensive, as is the merchant fee associated with credit cards.

bocamp 9:16 AM  

Thx, Alan, ¡bueno! OCHO sobre diez; a top NOTCH production! 👍

Med.

Smooth solve! :)

Most appropriate to see 'Rubik's CUBE connected to RACED by COULD, as Max Park wOULD, and COULD, RACE to a new 3x3 CUBE world record of 3.13 seconds recently.

Speaking of CAT TOY, had a sweet dream last nite featuring a SiMpaTICo relationship between a kitten and a puppy DUO. 🐱 🐶

Very enjoyable adventure today; liked this one a lot! :)
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Croce's #839 was tough (over 4 x NYT Sat.), but, as always, most fulfilling, even tho I dnf'd at the 'Nile' / 'Brockmire cross and at the 'lot's of' / 'recipe' cross. :( On to Paolo Pasco's Mon. New Yorker. 🤞
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

Alice Pollard 9:22 AM  

coRER before PARER . RICEU??? gtfooh

Nancy 9:38 AM  

In our Friday editorial meetings, back in my days as a editor at the Literary Guild, an oft-used pan of an overlong non-fiction book on a given subject was "tells you more than you want to know about..."

This puzzle asked me more than I wanted to be asked about critters that have a SYMBIOTIC relationship with each other. And not only that they have this relationship, but exactly how that relationship is manifested.

I avoided the annoyance of the cross-referencing (the 2nd annoying puzzle in a row but for a wildly different reason from yesterday's) and solved the thing by relying on crosses and letter pattern recognition. After all, what I don't know about the habits of the CLOWNFISH and the TICKBIRD would fill a library, so why bother with tediously checking the cross-references?

A worthy puzzle. A puzzle that teaches you important, educational stuff. A grownup puzzle for grownups. Quite tough for a Tuesday. But also, I thought, dull as ditchwater to solve.

Gary Jugert 9:59 AM  

A Tuesday tuesing and meh kinda theme. CORER before PARER made that little section in the west tough.

Ghost Tee-Hee: Thanks 🦖 for looking into the dark murky mist of the ho-humminess at what coulda been, and pulling out your OXPECKER over and over and over.

Uniclues:

1 Prepared circus sushi.
2 An uzi.
3 Use bad optics ala early Hubble.
4 Prey on predatory invertebrate.
5 Predatory invertebrate of folklore.

1 CLOVE CLOWNFISH (~)
2 DON'S ACE
3 SNARL TELESCOPE
4 TROLL ANEMONE (~)
5 ANEMONE TROLL

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: My house. LEWD LAIR HERE. And: What happens in my lewd lair. UNHYGIENIC WOWS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Beezer 9:59 AM  

I liked this puzzle just fine while working it and can forgive whether there is technically a symbiotic relationship in each one.

IMNOTASCIENTIST but I did read a wonderful book called The Overstory by Richard Powers. It discusses many different trees (within an overarching human plot, including figs/banyan trees. If memory serves me the symbiotic relationship with a fig tree is with a type of wasp that buries into the fruit and pollinates it. Banyan trees are created by bats or birds eating the pollinated fig tree fruit and dropping them on other trees…thus strangling the tree and a banyan (strangler fig) is created.

I think coal CAN be considered an ore if it is used to create metallurgical coke since it is changed into another product used for a different purpose, ie “new” steel making.

Well. I’ll get off my high horse and mosey on down the road.

Carola 10:35 AM  

I enjoyed the nature lesson, especially learning about the relationship between CLOWNFISH and ANEMONEs - it sent me to YouTube for enlightenment as to why anemones don't sting clownfish to death as they would any other fish (interesting! recommend). I felt that the grid was also making that colorful pair the star of the show, given the ocean-related SAMOA, ISLA, and REEF. But then I felt I might be giving the TICKBIRD short shrift: so, back to YouTube to learn about its warning cries. It turns out that the birds' cries of alarm at humans' approach are for its own species and that the rhinos are "eavesdroppers." Trivia tidbit: the indigenous name for the bird is "the rhino's guard."

jb129 10:39 AM  

Pretty easy. What I didn't know I worked out. Gotta say though that the BAT reference was kinda cruel for Rex since I'm sure he's had enough of them already.

kitshef 11:01 AM  

I'll take this as an opportunity to recommend The Medusa and the Snail by Lewis Thomas. It's a collection of essays, and the title essay concerns a particularly amazing symbiotic relationship.

GILL I. 11:05 AM  

I'm pretty sure I've heard of a TICK BIRD out in the wild. Like OOH, there's a bird eating ticks off of that RHINO.
My go to CLOWN FISH is Nemo or maybe Marlin. It pays to have grandkids...
I've also heard of a FRUIT BAT. I didn't know that they preferred the FIG TREE to munch on. Fig trees are messy when they drop a lot of their fruit on the sidewalk. I can see where a BAT would have a field day.
We have lots of bats in Sacramento. There are like a million species but the prevalent ones are the Mexican free-tailed. If you're taking a leisurely drive on I80 over the Yolo Causeway towards the Bay Area around sunset you can see thousands of them swarming. They like our heat in the summer and all of the bugs we offer.
My only huh was OIL LEASES. Why in the world would you grant permission to have a big hoity tooth gas company drill on your property. I guess the pay is good.
An enjoyable Tuesday as Tuesdays go. At least I learned about the bat and the fig tree.

johnk 11:18 AM  

In Florida, a cattle egret is known as a TICKBIRD. They perform the same task for cattle as the oxpeckers do for RHINOs.
I RACED through the puzzle today, but with a few hmmms. There's a big difference between a Sea ANEMONE and an ANEMONE, which is a garden flower. Coal is not an ore, so ORECART could have been more appropriately clued. And of course RICEU, DOSAY, etc.

Anonymous 11:19 AM  

I agree that the puzzle kind of fell flat. These aren't animals I think much about, and knowing that they have some kind of mutually beneficial relationship that takes a lot of words to explain is kind of meh. I basically read the clues, thought they were vaguely interesting, shrugged my shoulders, and the puzzle flew out of my head. A puzzle based on animal trivia SHOULD have been more interesting than that, but it wasn't for me.

jae 11:20 AM  

Easy. I thought the theme was pretty clever, liked it.

egsforbreakfast 11:33 AM  

Symbiosis (M-W): the living together in more or less intimate association or close union of two dissimilar organisms.

Doesn’t need to be two animals. Doesn’t even need to be mutually beneficial. As long as a living thing lives in “more or less intimate association” with a dissimilar living thing, it is a SYMBIOTIC relationship. So, for example, a republican and a democrat who are married enjoy a SYMBIOTIC relationship, since they are quite dissimilar organisms.

What did the CLOWNFISH say to the rogue marine invertebrate who stung him? You’re no friend! You’re ANEMONE!

I don’t get the complaining about RICEU. I mean, no one complains about T Christian University. Right.

I once stopped a guy in Central Park to ask directions to that neighborhood with hipster, curated boutique stores and cast iron buildings. He said “OH, Soho is OHSO far south.” “DOSAY,” I replied.

A: How come you weren’t drafted for Vietnam?
B: LACTOSE
A: Oh. Can’t tolerate milk?
B: Missing metatarsals.

Fun enough Tuesday. Thanks, Alan Siegel.

mathgent 11:55 AM  

One of my favorite movies is Midnight Run from 1988. I watch it every two or three years. Last night I watched it for free on Netflix. DeNiro (at 45), Charles Grodin, Joe Pantoliano (Ralphie in The Sopranos), Dennis Farina.

I counted gimmes again this morning. Almost as many as Monday, 26 against 29.

other David 12:02 PM  

Nice little puzzle with weird things people don't say.

And just because other animals spread seeds doesn't make the bat/fig symbiosis any less real. Fruit bats eat half their body weight in figs each night; that's a lot of seeds to spill in various ways. They've evolved to depend on the figs for their lives. Sounds pretty symbiotic to me. Bears, on the other hand, spread blueberry bushes, but they don't need to in order to survive. That's not symbiotic.

Tickbird? That could be a chicken or any number of birds.

RiceU? Nobody says that. Ever

Echeck? Apparently this is what some people somewhere call paying on line, I've never heard it. "Oh, I'll send you an echeck" is not something I've heard.

I expected Rex to go off on Oil Leases, but he didn't. Huh.

Joe Dipinto 12:03 PM  

What a strange bunch of answers is in this grid. I mean, just look at it. FRUIT BAT, CAT TOY, ORE CART, OIL LEASES. TICKBIRD, LACTOSE, PLACEBO, WALLS IN. Do I like it? I dunno. I COULD. I WANNA. But...no. I CAN'T. It's too SYMBIOTIC for my taste.

Something for your pumpkin spice latte.

Anonymous 12:06 PM  

All valid criticism. Felt forced. Thanks for the write up.

Lake guy 12:32 PM  

Is Cat's eye referring to the movie based on Stephen's King's book or is there another meaning?

Alsace Dawn 1:00 PM  

Rex, all your comments about the clues being off somewhat--RICEU was so bad I refused to put it in until there was no other choice--and there were others just as bad. If I do say so myself.

Masked and Anonymous 1:04 PM  

Did TROLLS and FRUITBATs also have a symbiotic thing goin? Just askin, for completeness.

staff weeject pick: AIS. Artificial Intelligences. for Apple.

some of the faves: CAT TOY. PLACEBBO [yo, @Z's pub!] TELESCOPE. WALL SIN.

As I recall, @Z's PLACEBO pub had a symbiotic relationship with TENTACLE.

Thanx for the mutually beneficial puz, Mr. Siegel dude.

Masked & Anonymo4Us


**gruntz**

okanaganer 1:40 PM  

Well I'm not a biologist, but I kinda liked the theme. Okay for a Tues.

I had a bat in my bedroom one night at our cabin at the lake; what a racket as it flew around in the dark. I just pulled the covers over my head and waited for it to stop. Eventually it did. Next morning I could find no trace of it... the room has a screen door with no latch, so I guess it just pushed it open and escaped.

Never heard of ECHECK. Here in Canada we have E-Transfer, which is just the handiest thing in the world (do you have it in the States?) All you need is someone's email address to send money from your bank's web page. No apps, no website to visit to get the payments. During Covid it was brilliant... I paid the plumber, the furnace guy, etc...

[Spelling Bee: Mon 0, last word this 7er which took a while to get, for some reason.]

SharonAK 1:42 PM  

@ the "do say" offers. It has definitely been said many times by people in older movies (tho I could not name an example) My doubt about was the clue. Somehow "do Say" has a different connotation More of an "Is that so?" than a "tell e more."
"Tick bird" sounded very familiar "Oxpecker" did not, and Rex is a bit old to be finding it so delightful. Seems more like junior high fun.

Anonymous 2:14 PM  

Totes = Absolutely ??

Joe Dipinto 2:28 PM  

@Lake guy – Cat's-eye is another name for the gemstone chrysoberyl.

Anonymous 3:52 PM  

Tickbird is, of course, superior to oxpecker in every way. The birds eat ticks. Further, oxpeceker sound for all the world like woodpecker. But woodpeckers hammer at trees, tick birds don't feed ina hammering manner in the least.

JNKMD 5:41 PM  

As long as we are being biologists please note that only the White Rhino is a grazer,the Black Rhino however is a browser

Solve with Steve 5:45 PM  

E to the x, dy/dx, e to the x dx,
Secant, tangent, cosine, sine,
3.14159,
Cube root, square root, BTU,
Compass, slide root, GO RICE U!

Anonymous 6:10 PM  

Good catch!

dgd 6:28 PM  

The clue did say contemporary slang. Totes from totally. It has been in the puzzle before. That is how I know it. A generational thing. Adorbs for adorable is similar. Wouldn’t use either myself, but then I’m a Boomer.

Anonymous 9:35 PM  

I’m annoyed by ARC for “Path of a meteor in the sky”. This is wrong in every way I can think of. None of the editors has ever seen a meteor or something. Whether viewing a meteor from the ground or just the fact that “things travel in straight lines” (yes gravity impacts them too but the amount of curve in that is so minuscule in the time they’re in the sky then if that’s arced everything is). Look up long exposure photos of the night sky and see all the paths of meteors. Sorry, had to get that out of my system :)

Anonymous 11:03 PM  

This old timer was unable to post cause of captcha problem. On my phone now but will try again on my computer

old timer 11:11 PM  

I too never heard of ECHECK, though I pay my bills online using the B of A billpay service. Nor had I heard of the lovely oxpecker. Herd of oxen of course, and was very sad to learn that the real ox pecker is of little use to him as male calves are um fixed before they are old enough to fall in love with cows.

The puzzle was mostly easy with a few good rough spots.

spacecraft 10:52 AM  

Nice theme. It's a pity we can't seem to be more SYMBIOTIC with nature--OR with each other! Though I know the word, I'm not familiar with the specific organisms in this grid, so it was medium, at times medium-challenging, here.

I found the revealer clue; knowing that word I started there. Bumped into a lot of fill that should've been hauled away on a SCOW: ECHECK and RICEU in particular. Theme is good, execution meh. Par.

Wordle birdie.

Tonight begins the Vegas Golden Knights' defense of the Stanley Cup. Godspeed, you guys!

Anonymous 2:21 PM  

Rex: We must live on different planets. I have never heard of an oxpecker, but have heard of a tickbird. So your rant made me investigate. I found tons of references to tickbirds. Even the Britannica says oxpeckers are OFTEN called tickbirds. But your rant makes it sound like tickbirds are not a thing and nobody says or uses it.

Anonymous 2:35 PM  

@David Grenier 7:43am :
I see the word eCheck every single month. One of my monthly bills is paid automatically, and I receive a text telling me how much and when the money will be deducted from my checking account. "will be paid by eCheck".

Anonymous 3:05 PM  

eCheck is real!!!
I get a text every single freaking month from one of my utilities, telling my bill is being paid by eCheck.

Anonymous 3:19 PM  

Now on to a much more important matter: scarf vs snarf. For me anyway, the difference between the two words is this. To scarf is to eat very fast or hurriedly for whatever reason, but not unnecessarily noisily. Snarf, on the other hand, is to eat very fast and very noisily. In particular, I'm referring to the scene in A Christmas Story, where the mom gets Randy to eat food he hates, by telling him to eat like a piggy. This is over the top snarfing, but you get the picture.
Scarf vs snarf is now a MOOt point.

Anonymous 3:47 PM  

I do agree for a Tuesday it was very easy, but I enjoyed it very much, but I do watch a lot of NatGeo, PBS, and BBC America. I like learnin'!
Also the 21A clue says coal carrier. It does not call coal an ore, and the very same carts that carry ore are also used to carry coal. And because coal usually has much less density than ore, the carts can hold a lot more product. I think that was an intentional misdirect.
One last thing: eChecks are real!!!
Third time's a charm.

Anonymous 5:17 PM  

@Joe Dipinto 2:28pm :
It was also a shooting marble when I was a kid and you were allowed to play in the dirt.

Diana, LIW 6:07 PM  

Just toodle-ing right along, and one creature's name eluded me. Until I remembered something about the beautiful ANEMONE having a grumpy nature at times. And bingo - done.

As much fun as a new CATTOY for Lambo.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Burma Shave 7:12 PM  

TEST CASE

ALL TROLLS WANNA TAUNT you,
ICAN'T SAY they should.
Why IN HADES want to?
Just to SAY they COULD.

--- DON MOTT

rondo 7:55 PM  

ICANT SAY that I wrote anything over. But ho-hum.
Wordle birdie.

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