Tittle-tattles / SAT 9-16-23 / Trade org. of interest to publishers and authors / Dim sum dessert / Component of a Mr. Clean costume say / One-third of France's motto / Inexpensive drawing say / Second-densest naturally occurring metal / Comic's batch of bits / Biz corporate strategy / Nihilistic query

Saturday, September 16, 2023

Constructor: Jonathan Kaufman

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: LIL BABY (11D: Grammy-winning rapper with the 2022 #1 album "It's Only Me") —

Dominique Armani Jones (born December 3, 1994), known professionally as Lil Baby, is an American rapper. He rose to mainstream fame in 2017 following the release of his mixtape Perfect Timing.[4] His debut studio album, Harder Than Ever (2018), spawned the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 single "Yes Indeed" (with Drake). He later released mixtapes Drip Harder (with Gunna), which contained the Billboard Hot 100 top-five single "Drip Too Hard" and Street Gossip, which reached number two on the US Billboard 200.

Lil Baby's sophomore album My Turn (2020) topped the Billboard 200, was certified triple-platinum by the RIAA, and became the best-selling album of 2020. The album spawned the singles, "We Paid" (with 42 Dugg) and "The Bigger Picture", both of which reached the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 and the latter of which received two Grammy nominations at the 2021 Grammy Awards. The following year, he released the collaborative album The Voice of the Heroes with rapper Lil Durk and won the Grammy Award for Best Melodic Rap Performance for his performance on the song "Hurricane" with Kanye West and The Weeknd. Lil Baby's third album It's Only Me became his third consecutive number-one album.

In addition to his Grammy Award, Lil Baby has received an MTV Video Music Award, and two BET Awards, and was crowned the biggest all-genre Artist of the Year at the Apple Music Awards 2020. (wikipedia)

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Easier than yesterday for me ... or about the same, but the difficulty was more expected, what with its being Saturday and all, so if yesterday's was "Medium-Challenging," this is a couple steps down at "Easy-Medium." Got a lot more whoosh-whoosh action out of this one as well, with the marquee answers exploding across the grid like fireworks, the way I like. Well, all except SPA TREATMENTS, mannnnnn was that hard for me to parse (14D: What cucumber slices and seaweed can be part of). I had SPA- and kept assuming it was part of a larger word. Then I came around from below and got some of the middle of the word, but that did nothing. "SPACE ... MEAT ... something?" By the time I actually saw SPA TREATMENTS, I had all but two or three squares filled in. My other big mental block was on 44D: Picker-uppers (TONGS). I had the "T" and could think only of TONICS, which wouldn't fit. Could not get the idea out of my head that "picker-upper" was something to pick me/you/one up. Like a "pick-me-up." Really glad I didn't get paper towels in my head ("Bounty: The Quicker Picker-Upper") or I might still be trying to figure it out. Instead I let go and let crosses handle it. 


The most difficult part of the puzzle—harrowing, in fact—came in the SW, where yet another sing-songy hyphenated clue nearly did me in. With -TS sitting in the grid, I looked at 38A: Tittle-tattles and ... well, wondered what it meant. It sounded like a thing I'd heard before, but it also sounded like a million things (tattle tale, Fiddle Faddle, dilly dally, etc.), so I hesitated. Then I remembered that "tittle" definitely means "little bit" (as in the phrase "every jot and tittle," i.e. "even the smallest detail or amount"), so I thought "Eureka!" and wrote in WHITS (meaning "little bits" or "smallest amounts"). Then, the coup de grace: I Proudly "Confirmed" that "H" with "WHO ELSE?" (34D: "Of course it was me!"). Wrong answers are bad, but wrong answer you "confirm" with crosses are deadly. After I time, I pulled the answer back to -H-TS but still, no idea. Because HAT TIPS was so completely inscrutable to me (35D: Credit lines?) (I thought maybe HOT TIPS??), I had to work that section down to a single letter at CH-TS / H-T TIPS and then run the vowels. Luckily "A" is the first vowel. Never heard of "Tittle-tattles" meaning CHATS. Would not have thought of HAT TIPS as "lines," but I guess if you give someone "credit" for something and you write (as one often does, esp on social media) "hat tip to" whomever (often abbreviated "ht" or "H/T"), then OK, that "credit" does come in ... "line" form, in that you have written ... lines ... crediting someone. Anyway, that bit was grueling, but nothing else in the grid came close to flummoxing me so badly.


I don't think the marquee answers are marquee enough today. HERD MENTALITY and "WHAT'S THE POINT?" really stand out, but SPA TREATMENTS and GOING TOE-TO-TOE feel pretty bland (I've certainly seen TOE-TO-TOE a bunch), and we just saw some version of DID A SOLID not too long ago. Ooh, LOAN SHARK was good (20D: Figure in the criminal underworld, maybe), so the spine and two ribs of this thing are really solid, really lovely. Not much else going on, though. Of the corners, the NE seems like the standout to me, with solid answers all around, dynamic answers (BROILS! GRAPHIC!), a nice colloquial phrase ("I HEAR IT"), a crafty cool clue on OUTSELL (17A: Move more), and a performance by LIL BABY. The other corners are ho-hum, with the SE being the weakest, if only for the gruesome ONALEAD. It's not ATADESK bad (see yesterday), but it's pretty bad. Somehow worse that it wants to be about detectives and not dogs. And definitely worse than it might have been because it's the second (!?) ONA- answer in the grid. I tolerated ON A HIGH just fine, but ON A LEAD is an ONA too far, and it's absurd as clued. Google "on a lead" and it's all dogs. Wall-to-wall dogs. For a reason. Nothing else in that corner is helping to make up for the ugliness of ONALEAD.]


What else? I had PEON before PAGE (48D: Errand runner). I also had ROTE before RATE (8D: Derivative, essentially). Not exactly sure why—something about "derivative" sounding like a criticism of unimaginative art, and doing something by ROTE being automatic and hence unimaginative. That's my defense. Math never occurred to me. But before you (rightly) begin disparaging my math & science chops, I'll have you know that I absolutely dunked on IRIDIUM. I mean, I wouldn't know IRIDIUM from chewing gum but I know that it exists, that it is an element, and I parsed it from virtually nothing. The -RI-, I think. So there. Proper names weren't too hard today. A mix of things I did (SOLANGE) and didn't (NINA) know, with a one or two I knew but had trouble getting from context (PEROT). LIL BABY is like IRIDIUM to me, in that I know his name, I know he exists, but that is all I know ... and yet that was enough for me to get him pretty easily (I had -ABY in place before I ever looked at the clue). 


Biz OPS ... please never say that. Do you not hear yourself? Stop. Hey, what does the "B" in ABA stand for today (I mean, since it doesn't stand for its more customary meaning, "Bar") (21A: Trade org. of interest to publishers and authors)? I think it's "Booksellers" but I'm gonna have to check ... Whoa, I just googled "ABA" and apparently in the real, i.e. non-crossword world, everyone thinks ABA = "Applied Behavior Analysis" (whatever that is). My god it is hard to find today's ABA ... searching [ABA books] and [ABA library] is useless ... I'm getting American Beverage ... American Bankers ... ah there we go. I was right: American Booksellers Association. Man, google really Really doesn't want you to find this particular ABA. The quality of google as a search engine has so horribly degraded in recent years, and somehow the fact that it's hiding booksellers from me today feels ominously on-brand. Have a nice day!

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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79 comments:

Conrad 6:05 AM  


I thought AHA (18A) was more along the lines of “I get it now” and OHO is what crossworld uses for “Caught ya!”

DavidP 6:12 AM  

I finished it, which means it must be easy.

Son Volt 6:41 AM  

Elegant looking grid - well filled. Similar to the big guy - the SW took me some time as I backed into HAT TIPS. I’m not seeing the h/t abbreviation connection.

Liked most of the longs - HERD MENTALITY, I HEAR IT etc. Surprisingly - SPA TREATMENTS dropped right in after seeing cucumbers and seaweed.

We are seeing a lot of the “Skip it” type cluing lately - not my favorite. Liked the misdirect for CLIOS.

Pleasant Saturday morning solve. Mossberg’s Stumper is similar in scope today.

RAG Mama RAG

Anonymous 6:44 AM  

Anybody else for pAnAmA Bernie or CABANA?

puzzlehoarder 7:01 AM  

This was about 5 minutes longer than yesterday's solve. I was getting answers from the start so no freeze out like the start of Friday's puzzle. Today it was just steady work until HERDMENTALITY went in. After that it was a little faster. At the end I hesitated on CTS. I just wanted to be sure to get the congrats when the Ts of TOTE went in to finish.

DIDASOLID? Be sure to flush.

yd -0

kitshef 7:06 AM  

Very hard, even for a Saturday. Never on the right wavelength at all and nothing came easily. I would guess this took triple the time of yesterday’s puzzle.

Don't know what ABA means, in this usage, and never heard of NINA, or CHATS as defined, or SOLANGE, or LIL BABY.

SCLASS was a bit of a faith fill.

ON A LEAD is pretty terrible, as fill goes. Give me AT A DESK, any day.

Hal9000 7:09 AM  

Easier for me than yesterday too, but I needed your explanation of "hat tips" - had no idea what that was about. Top half was easier than bottom but overall gave a nice "whoosh". Enjoyed it.

RJ 7:10 AM  

I found Friday's puzzle easy-medium, today's puzzle not so much. Cosmos, Solange, spa treatments, hat tips, Lil Baby - just not in my wheelhouse.

Anonymous 7:32 AM  

This was challenging for me. Wound up with a DNF. nothing bad or unfair, just everything out of my wheelhouse. Probably also lack of coffee and being back in grad school doesn’t help.

SouthsideJohnny 7:34 AM  

This had the makings of a good one - I disagreed with Rex and thought the long downs with the SPA, LOANSHARK and going TOTETOTOE were all good. For once, Rex was stumped on a chip shot for me - SPA TREATMENT. That happens about once every six months. Unfortunately, there are some really so-so clue/answer combos as well to gum up the works. I know the whole DO A SOLID thing is having its moment, but there is such a thing as overkill, and this qualifies. It’s very fitting that it is sandwiched between HERD MENTALITY and WHATS THE POINT, which certainly seems like some sort of ironic poetic justice.

The whole convoluted concept of someone wanting a Mr. Clean costume and then buying a “BALD CAP” is just not (or shouldn’t be) NYT-worthy. If anything, all you need is a white tee shirt and a dude with some guns (the muscle kind, not the shooting kind).

Similarly, the clue and answer for ON A LEAD are just awful, and the presence of that French motto is, well let’s not even go there.

This is probably too pedantic for CrossWorld, but (in my view at least) BROILING and ROASTING are two entirely different animals. It’s like saying WALK is a good clue for TROT or DRIVING is a good clue for SAILING because they are both methods of transportation.

I thought this was one of the more enjoyable Saturdays we’ve had in a while, even with all of my NITS.

Lewis 7:37 AM  

The star of this puzzle, IMO, are those six long answers, three abutting verticals crossing three abutting horizontals, forming the bones of the grid. Those six are mostly terrific, and five of them (all except LOAN SHARK) are NYT debuts, infusing the grid with the zing of freshness. (There are nine NYT answer debuts overall.)

The grid design is identical to that of Jonathan's last NYT puzzle, except in that one there were also black squares in each corner. I found that I solved this one much like that one, working on filling in the outer areas until enough crosses helped me see those biggies in the middle.

Lovely wordplay today, playing on “pitchers”, “locks”, “sea change”, “picker-uppers”, and “nursery”, not to mention my favorite clue, the uber-devious [Move more] for OUTSELL, which brought a huge AHA and broke open the NE for me.

I want the Saturday puzzle to shift my brain into first gear and keep it there from start to finish, grinding and doing heavy lifting – a high-intensity workout ending with me in a puddle of happiness and satisfaction, bolstered by the knowledge that I did my brain a solid and that it is happy as well. And this is what I got today. Thank you, Jonathan, and more please!

bocamp 7:38 AM  

Thx, Jonathan; perfect Sat. offering! 😊

Med+

Got nada in the NW; moved east to get S CLASS / OUTSELL and IRIDIUM.

The rest was slow and steady, with the LIL BABY / ABA cross being a bit tricky.

Also had trouble with 'credit line', but finally twigged in to 'a TIP of the HAT'.

Very enjoyable workout; liked it a lot! :)
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On to Steve Mossberg's Sat Stumper. 🤞
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

ncmathsadist 7:40 AM  

Two EATACAKES today. Ugh.

amullenx 7:52 AM  

5 minutes shorter than yday. Also had HOT TIPS initially, which prevented me from seeing CHATS until the very end, which made me question CABANA, because the clue... makes no sense? Also, what is with the recent obsession with DO/DIDASOLID?

Andy Freude 8:06 AM  

I think today I hit a personal worst for wrong answers. My Mr. Clean costume features an EARRING. OHO! HoT TIP. like Rex, I floundered with SPace . . . MEaTS for a while. Somehow I confused PT scans with CT Cruisers. Or is it the other way around? This was brutal. Fun, but brutal.

pabloinnh 8:19 AM  

OK, It's Saturday, right? Just checking.

Not a promising start in the NW but in went SCLASS and GRPAHIC and the long answers seemed easier than the short ones today. Pop stuff again unknown, looking at you LILABY and SOLANGE, and had AIDE before PAGE and DESIRES before ASPIRES but otherwise a smooth ride.

Surprised at the confusion concerning ABA, which of course merged with the NBA years ago. Or maybe that was another ABA.

What an awful Saturday, JK. Ha ha, Just Kidding. Liked it a lot, and thanks for all the fun.

Anonymous 8:26 AM  

@southsidejohnny. I thought that too about roasting and broiling, but then I thought about the recent heatwaves and it worked (sort of) for me.

007 8:27 AM  

I had a feeling Biz _____ (corporate strategy) would be OPS but having spent 40 years in business I cringed a little. There is a huge difference between operations and strategy. Corporate strategy effectively involves decisions about what products to sell to which markets; biz ops helps to optimize operations via process, systems, org structure, etc. in support of corporate strategy for optimal results. (For the other pedants out there of which I find there are many on this page.)

Dr.A 8:39 AM  

Applied Behavioral analysis is a very popular “therapy” for people with autism that treats them like trained dogs and makes me moe than a little sick. I have a kid with autism and when it was super popular it just didn’t appeal to me and now it’s being berated by the autistic population. It probably has a place for the more severely affected but for anyone that can be reasoned with, it’s pretty insulting. Anyway that’s my rant du jour!! Agree on Tittle tattle, what is that??? And finally did the same thing you did in that corner!

Ted 8:43 AM  

Fun and breezy Saturday solve. Thanks, Mr.Kaufman!

Had skinCAP before BALDCAP and Peon before PAGE.

@Rex, Applied Behavioral Analysis is an autism therapy thing. It’s a gift not to have to know whatever that is.

Peace and love

Anonymous 8:55 AM  

To a cook/chef broils does NOT means roasts. I object!

Liveprof 8:58 AM  

A lot of neat stuff in the grid today. I loved BALD CAP, but I think it would have been funnier if the clue referenced Dr. Phil.

The Tin Man must have had TIN EARS, no? Maybe the clue could have been, "Why a Wizard of Oz character wasn't very musical."

HAT TIPS was a great answer too, IMO. I also needed an alphabet run, a short one, for the A. It made me think of those ballplayers who acknowledge their great play with a modest tip of the cap to the fans, although the grid's hat tip is to give praise, not receive it. Baseball is evolving to allow more hot-doggery -- bat flips and various less-modest gestures. It's all fine, as far as I'm concerned -- I don't mind the hot dogging as long as it's backed up. Can't say I'm in favor of drilling a hot-dogger with a pitch, though -- too dangerous -- too many injuries in sports even without that, said the eternally suffering Jets fan.

When I was going in for prostate surgery years ago, the doc could tell I was a little nervous and he reassured me that it was pretty routine these days and I'd come through it fine and live a long and healthy life. I asked him if I'd live long enough to see the Jets win another Super Bowl and he said "No."

Fun_CFO 9:02 AM  

Good Saturday.

Got first toe hold in NE and then clockwise from there. Well, actually NE, SE, NW, then back to finish the SE with A in HATTIPS.

Really wanted “earring” for Mr. Clean costume as it’s such a better answer. Had similar @Rex parsing issue of SPATREATMENTS, really wanted something related to “no meat menus”, and couldn’t get that conceit out of my head. Big doh moment.

Anonymous 9:10 AM  

Got everything except the SW. How in the world are HATTIPS credit lines? I also had "hottips" (which isn't a good answer, either). If I tip my hat to someone, I might be thanking that person for some favor, but I wouldn't tip my hat to give credit to anyone, and it wouldn't be in the form of a LINE, either. Really an awful entry, one that spoiled an otherwise well constructed grid for me

AIRDATE matches the clue, but has anyone ever said "That's the air date"? ("airing date" might make sense, but I doubt that anyone has ever said it). DIDASOLID must be New York street talk, which shows up constantly nowadays.

Nancy 9:15 AM  

What with the quote (a fabulous clue, but I didn't know it) and the two pop culture names, I didn't have a prayer of filling in any of the NW, so I went elsewhere in the hope that I'd eventually get an entry into this rather segmented grid. It was a "keep the faith" solve for me all the way.

Some really terrific clues and some really terrific answers. Loved the clues for SPA TREATMENTS; MANE (I saw that one right away); CABANA; RAG; COSMOS; and TIN EARS. Loved the answers HERD MENTALITY and WHAT'S THE POINT.

I resisted writing in AGGIE. Why would a California team name itself after a Texas one?

DID A SOLID -- a phrase I've never used nor heard spoken -- returns for the second time in, what, a week? Which was very helpful to me today. But it was WHAT'S THE POINT, followed shortly after by HERD MENTALITY that broke the puzzle open for me.

Awful clue for CHATS. Are TITTLE-TATTLES any relation to WHIM-WHAMS? Just asking for a friend.

I was quite hooked by this puzzle and determined to solve it even if I had to cheat on the pop culture clues. Happily I didn't have to. Very engrossing and entertaining.

RooMonster 9:30 AM  

Hey All !
Brain using puz today, in that it played a toughie for me. Liked the 6 Center-Longies. All good stuff, all criss-crossy.

Had to Goog after a bit, but I try to limit my Googing to unknown, ergo, never would figure out, PPP. Did it with LILBABY (1) Redundant, 2) I thought the LIL moniker was past us), and NINA , even though I wanted to write that in originally.

Still ended up with the Almost There message. Dag nab it! Hit Check Puzzle, it crossed out the T I had at SEEMtO/TINEARt. Never would've found that. Did question what TINE ART was! 😁 SEEM TO, SEEM SO, Potatoe-Potahto. WHATS THE POINT. Har

Good SatPuz. Got a sneaky ASS in at SCLASS. I believe more puzs than less are ASSisted.

Happy Saturday.

No F's (*GRAPHIC* language...)
RooMonster
DarrinV

andrew 9:35 AM  

Liked it! Clues were specific enough to Google NINA, SOLANGE and LILBABY (had guessed it was LIL something). Those PPPs out of the way, surmised the rest…eventually.

Had SPA TREAT MENu (mmm, Seaweed), LioNSHARe (thinking of COURSE the figure in the underworld would be a usurious amount) and TubeTOP. Will never guess the right one initially in the OHO/AHA dilemma.

Fun challenge to start the day. (Only other question, why is Town Cryer still the featured song? Hey, Declan MacManus is my favorite Elvis too but where is the love for Lil Whats-his-name or Beyonce’s Lil Sis?)

Carola 9:50 AM  

I thought this was a fine Saturday - fun to figure out, with satisfying answers post-figuring. I'll give it a medium - a mix of the easy - HERD MENTALITY - and the "what could it be?" - SPATREATMENT, and of clues that I saw though - the "pitchers" and "locks" and ones that left me with a blank stare.
I started off on the wrong foot with 1D pAnAmA (hi, Anonymous 6:44), congratulating myself on that stroke of genius, but my error was soon corrected by the great NINA Hoss (totally underused in "Tár"). And after that things perked along in fits and starts until EGG TART x TONGS brought up the finish. Especially liked the clues for HAT TIPS and TIN EARS.

Do-overs: pAnAmA before CABANA, Med before MDS. Help from previous puzzles: DID A SOLID. No idea: SOLANGE, LIL BABY.

Liveprof 10:29 AM  

@Nancy. I was hesitant about AGGIE for UC Davis too, but I looked up their website and they crow about being #1 in the U.S. in Agriculture and Forestry. Live and learn.

Gary Jugert 10:32 AM  

This one wasn't for me. Fought it top to bottom. I feel positive when these days roll around I should check into the home.

BALD CAP made me laugh. HAT TIP to that.

The horizontal and vertical spanners were wonderful to uncover.

Speaking of ON A HIGH, we just watched Painkiller on Netflix about Purdue and OxyContin. Just insane the Sacklers profited off so much misery. Fentanyl is now making it worse. So awful.

Uniclues:

1 Bring Ross a wig.
2 Alternative to the American medical complex.
3 Get judgy over the judgers online.

1 TOTE PEROT MANE
2 CABANA CT SCAN
3 RATE CLIOS PAGE

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Anna's nickname at a temp job she took in the mall as an elf at Christmas time before she hit it big. CANDY CANE FARIS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Photomatte 10:42 AM  

Got thoroughly stuck with the tittle-tattles clue. All my life growing up, I heard "don't be a tittle tattle" and it meant "don't be a tattle tale;" it was the same meaning. So having CHATS as the answer still seems wrong. And the clue for BROILS (7-Across, roasts) also seems wrong. I just heated up a croissant in my toaster oven and I set it on broil mode. Does that mean I've just "roasted" my croissant? Broil and roast are not synonyms; it'd be like conflating deep-frying potatoes with boiling potatoes. Yes, both are cooking methods but you wouldn't ask for boiled French fries. Never heard of SOLANGE, LILBABY or NINA Hoss. This was a challenging Saturday. Esoteric trivia and poorly worded (incorrect, even) clues made me finish well after my average time.

Teedmn 10:43 AM  

A perfect Saturday with that brain-scrambling "I can't get any of these answers" feeling succumbing to a gentler form of Rex's "whoosh".

Sad that I had to get my start down at TEE crossing NEED TO. E__TART had me wondering if Eel TART could possibly be a dessert. I think I got GOING TOE TO TOE off only the N and the T from MAT so I didn't agree with Rex on that one.

43A was one of those where I thought, oh great, I know nothing about Dallas, but then, as it filled in, of course, WHO ELSE?

HERD MENTALITY still brings to mind this.

Thanks, Jonathan Kaufman!

Joe Dipinto 10:48 AM  

Not terribly demanding for a Saturday. My first "quandary" was: LIBERTÉ or ÉGALITÉ? So I put in the final TÉ and awaited further cluage. I had LEG for the yoga stretch item at first, which made me think the cucumber/seaweed answer would be some kind of LUNCH. Put in WHAT'S THE POINT with zero crosses, which provided WHO ELSE and NBA TEAM. I've never heard of LIL BABY but with the -ABY in place I *knew* that was gonna be right.

The IRIDIUM (or just Iridium, it can't seem to decide) is a club in NYC where Les Paul played for many years, in between his crossword appearances. This guy will be there in October.

GILL I. 10:58 AM  

My two bits....The clue for CABANA at 1D is about the most inane, fatuous, absurd, ridiculous and laughable clue I've ever seen. Site of a sea change? Really? Is it going to be one of those days?
Oh, wait...There's more....The clue for Mr. Clean. Does anyone really say BALD CAP. Why does it end in say?
Unlike @pablito, I know what day of the week it is and I know Saturday is blah, blah, blah, but why straining so hard to spring some missteps...It's Saturday and you're supposed to do that?
OK, so I got that off my chest and figured I was in for some mind bending...Or not?
Tackle the longies. They always seem like fun and I'm pretty good at getting them.
I HEAR IT, WHO ELSE....Go sniffing around for any S you can find. SPA. followed by TREATMENT. Check. LOAN SHARK. Check. And my favorite: GOING TOE TO TOE. I wanted a tete a tete for se reason. Check.
Those two gave me a start and finish with HERD MENTALITY. I was now thinking I might just finish. Check.
I needed help with LIL BABY. I like his real name better. Dominique Armani sounds like a person who really enjoys a good glass of wine while sitting outside in a French bistro and munching on cheese. LIL BABY is the person who doesn't like fromage..
Ones sans plus-ones is STAGS? Why? And last but not least: Credit lines are HAT TIPS? Might I need an imaging tech with slices?
So, I had trouble hither and yon. Even though there was a devil playing with the brain, I rather enjoyed the hunt. I had tittle-tattles with Google a few times, and with that I HID A SOLID. Check.

Tom T 11:04 AM  

I still can't make out how "Credit lines?" is a meaningful clue for HAT TIPS or HoT TIPS. I can connect either of them to "credit," either giving credit or deserving credit, but the "lines" part still doesn't fit for me. I read Rex's explanation, but if we are talking about either written or spoken lines, HoT TIPS is the slightly better answer. HAT TIPS are wordless--and I suppose the question mark in the clue is supposed to refer to that. So perhaps I've answered my own complaint ... but what a woe!

Otherwise enjoyable Saturday. As usual for a late week puz, my early success had to come from mid-grid down. Why do I even bother to try starting in the NW?

melrose 11:15 AM  

Hard for me, mostly because of an early error: started out looking for some gimmes, saw the Mr. Clean clue at 16A and put in EARRING, which I never thought might be incorrect; that doomed me on the NW corner, which had a long answer (14D) that extended far down the grid. Messed up in SE corner by having TINITIS instead of TINEARS.

JD 11:18 AM  

Tough. Apparently in all chaos there isn't a common. Bald WIG. Does a Bald Cap have a visor? Wanted Seaweed and Cucumber slices to be something around sushi. Broils for Roasts, talk about the diabolical English language. Move More, some kind of flailing? Tittle-tattles, something about gossiping, ratting on? That's a lot of syllables for Chats. There's no Tarot Museum of Nature and Science, that would be San Francisco.

Toehold ... my son had a scholarship to U.C. Davis but passed on it. At least I got something out of it today.

@GIll Judge JD, my fading Karen says never going back was the right thing to do. Who had the time!

jberg 11:28 AM  

Really slow to get started, because so many clues were either esoteric (cf. Jung) or ambiguous (marries or ANOINTS?). Finally I saw the French motto, and figured 5-D must be either yorE or ONCE, and I was off and... well, plodding. First I got "lend a hanD" from the D; then I figured the cucumbers and seaweed were the sort of thing you might serve at a teA. That blocked a lot of possible answers, though it did all get worked out eventually.

@Nancy, @liveprof -- many state university systems have a university that specializes in the traditional subjects (arts and sciences) and another one that focuses on what were originally more vocational things, like Agriculture and Mining (or Forestry). At least half of the latter get referred to as AGGIES.

@teedmn -- Me too! I mean, dim sum is Chinese, and an EelTART might be just the sort of thing one would expect, along with the duck feet, etc.

@Southside, think metaphor. Roasting and broiling are different methods of cooking; but if you are the guest of honor at a roast, you will be BROILed.

jae 11:36 AM  

Mostly easy except for the hard stuff. The long answers crossing in the center were easy. (Unliked @Rex I got SPA TREATMENTS off SPA). The NW and SW corners were tougher. I put in WHO ELSE and then took it out because nothing was working. Finally getting AIR DATE gave me a TOE hold.

Did not know NINA, LIL BABY, and COSMOS (as clued). Thanks @Rex for answering the B question.

Solid, smooth and delightful, liked it a bunch!

andrew 11:37 AM  

@Gill 10:58 to answer your wuestion, a quick Google search shows BALDCAP is the most common term.

Though this Amazon item may appeal to everyone with its inclusivity of keywords, Skin Heads included:

Auto-plaza Thick Bald Skin Head Hairless Fake Skull Wig Cap Fancy Dress Costume Cosplay Hat For Men Ladies Halloween Party!

johnk 11:56 AM  

Medium, except for the NW, which completely did me in. I solved the rest, then returned to no joy. I've read much of Jung's work, but don't recall that quote. I put in YORE for Years ago, which didn't help a bit. Solange is way out of my wheelhouse, as is the name of a fairly obscure European actress and the UC Aggies (who are rarely, if ever, mentioned in national sports news).

jb129 11:58 AM  

Harder for me than yesterday. Guess I just wasn't into it. Can't believe I had a block on - of all things - spa treatments. Tomorrow's another day even if it is Sunday :)

Anonymous 12:05 PM  

I know IRIDIUM as being a part of the KT boundary. Learned back when the History Channel actually contained educational content.

Lyrics 12:10 PM  

You got a tongue like a knife that loves to tittle tattle
Sometimes at night it sounds like a death rattle

-- "Stick It Where the Sun Don't Shine" by Nick Lowe

Upstate George 12:16 PM  

"Tittle tattles" means to gossip or speak disparagingly about someone, and is not a synonym for "chats". And I agree with the consensus that "broils"and "roasts" are two very different ways of cooking.

Anonymous 12:36 PM  

Both yesterday and today were brilliant, if you judge them on their own terms (and not based on whether they tripped up any individual solver). Tough but fair, never a slog, a delight throughout.

Anonymous 12:46 PM  

Yes

JD 1:08 PM  

@Upstate, Broil definition "become very hot, especially from the sun." You can also Roast in the sun. That was my take anyway. As I said, diabolical.

Masked and Anonymous 1:24 PM  

NW no-knows abounded:

1. COSMOS, in its quote clue.
2. BALDCAP, altho it sorta seems like it could be a thing, I guess.
3. NINA. Kinda like the combo phrase NINA NO-KNOW, tho.
4. AGGIE. Never been anywhere near UC Davis.
5. SOLANGE. Evidently BEYONCE's sis. M&A likes older music than that ... mostly 1950-1970 vintages.
6. Sneaky-ass CABANA clue. Like it, but it did help gobble up the precious solvequest nanoseconds.

yep. NW left M&A feelin second-densest on earth, mental-wise. Might change my handle to IRIDIUM.

Also didn't know LILBABY & SCLASS, but their crosses were at least planet-earth-reasonable.

staff weeject pick: LTE. Letter To the Editor, maybe? … that'd be apt. Was at least relieved, for crosser dim sum dessert's part, that it weren't LFE.

stuff I liked: HERDMENTALITY [got it off the HE openin]. DIDASOLID [got it off the DI start, and the L from ALP]. GOINGTOETOTOE [got it off the GO opener and the TO]. Epic xword debut for the primo Ow de Speration SUBIN. CABANA clue [Took a long time to sea]. Luvly rotate-the-sucker puzgrid symmetry. RATE [Calculus clue! Bring it, Shortzmeister!].

Thanx, Mr. Kaufman dude. Hard as IRIDIUM, tho.

Masked & Anonymo2Us


**gruntz**

okanaganer 1:28 PM  

Yesterday I found easy and Rex found challenging; this was the total opposite. Just so many answers I'm not familiar with: BALD CAP, SOLANGE, NINA, AGGIE, PEROT, and LIL BABY. I had the same experience as Rex with HAT TIPS, thinking it just had to be HOT TIPS but what's with the clue?

Speaking of clues, hands up for PANAMA before CABANA. What a clever clue... you go through the canal to change from one sea to another!

[Spelling Bee: Fri 0; again hardly any goofy words! QB streak 5 days.]

Hack mechanic 1:34 PM  

Anyone else go with uranium? I crossed it with cribs, subin & mane. What a disaster

jazzmanchgo 1:47 PM  

To "DO [SOMEONE] A SOLID" isn't exactly New York street vernacular -- it's rather dated hipster slang that one still hears occasionally (the late, great New Orleans musician Dr. John used it a lot, and I occasionally still hear it from Chicagoans of a certain age), but younger folks may not be too aware of it.

Anonymous 1:51 PM  

Count me in as another person who doesn't think ROASTS and BROILS are the same. They're certainly not the same in cooking, and I don't think of them as being the same if you're the guest of honor. You get ROASTED, but I've never heard of the guest of honor being BROILED.

egsforbreakfast 2:04 PM  

NINA was a substitute on the JV team due to HERDMENTALITY. She wouldn’t often SUBIN unless her team was sitting ONALEAD, never when they were GOINGTOETOTOE with an opponent. Eventually, the LILBABY said WHATSTHEPOINT? I’m not going to make an NBATEAM, and the ABA doesn’t even exist anymore.

If an Airman goes out with an Airhead, is it an AIRDATE?

Don’t forget to het STAGS for your SCLASS ONCE a year.

Really nice, satisfying Saturday. Thanks, Jonathan Kaufman.


Anonymous 2:09 PM  

@Liveprof Before my dad died (in 2021) at the age of 88, I used to joke that he had discovered the key to immortality - he wasn’t going until he got to see the Jets go to the Super Bowl again.

DigitalDan 2:18 PM  

Rex thought yesterday was hard and today was easyish.
I thought yesterday was pretty easy and today was exceeding difficult.
HATTIPS indeed. Tittle tattles indeed.
The communication system Iridium is so named because originally (decades ago) it was to comprise 77 satellites in low Earth orbit.

Anonymous 2:37 PM  

Davis like Texas AnM is an agricultural school…

Anonymous 2:47 PM  

This was just on the easy side of medium for me and seemed well constructed. Really about of solving each of the four corners, one at a time. Knowing SOLANGE was key for me completing the NW quickly. After that, having OUTRACE instead of OUTSELL for “Move more” in the NE slowed me down. Then the SE was the final nut to crack - and cracking the EGGTART took almost every cross. I guess I need to eat more Dim Sum.

pabloinnh 3:07 PM  

Stumplers-Maybe 2X a Saturday for today's, so not too bad. Finished in the NW, hardest part for me.

Newboy 3:37 PM  

Condolences to @Liveprof. We of the former PAC-8 mourn with you.

Really enjoyed the Saturday struggle, so thanks for another great grid Jonathan. Glad to see so many others fell into the ear ring / BALD CAP trap. I know that on Saturday any “obvious” answer is wrong….and yet….sigh. Hand up also with those who went to those non-AGGIE schools and missed the modern classics like LIL BABY, SOLANGE, etc.

maverick 3:41 PM  

Good writeup as usual. Agree with most, though funnily SPA TREATMENTS went right in for me and is probably the reason this one was easy-medium for me.

Totally agree with the double ON A, really gross (took me so long to commit to ON A HIGH, because I didn't want to believe they would repeat that, but sky high was obviously wrong by that point).

Also, 2(!!!) of those stupid 'it!' literal clues. One is absolutely the max. Zero is preferred, but never more than one, please god!

Anonymous 3:42 PM  

I found today both easy and tedious. The only half-sparkle for me came from RAG. I’ve noticed a trend lately in my relationship with the NYT puzzle wherein zingy Fridays find me ON A HIGH, while the tone of recent Saturdays leads me to question whether I have TIN EARS for the game, especially after reading positive reactions on this PAGE. I wonder if perhaps more constructors debut on Fridays, giving the day a fresh feel? Maybe I’m a LIL BABY, but today’s puzzle left me asking, WHAT’S THE POINT?

maverick 4:04 PM  

LOL, I just must add here for others potential enjoyment. While I was waiting for this post to go up, I did an archive puzzle (SAT 2-24-18). When I finished that I read this post (as it had come up and I was on the page) and then immediately read that post next (not even a puzzle in between). And in it you have this quote:

"8D: Picker-upper (TONIC). Had the TON-, wrote in ... TONGS! Apt! But wrong. But then, when I couldn't get either of those little Acrosses, I pulled TONGS for TONIC"

What are the odds! Hope, someone else gets some small joy of the irony of the world and is also a little freaked out by that coincidence!

Anonymous 4:50 PM  

“Hive” before “herd” mentality had me hung up forever

CM 5:55 PM  

I think I FINALLY got "lines of credit?" after thinking about it way too much. You say lines... in order to give someone credit... to honor them, which is a metaphorical HATTIP. Phew.

Anonymous 5:57 PM  

I really miss the days when the Saturday puzzle was more of a challenge. I am no pro, but I did this in less than an hour. To me that’s more like a Wednesday time. At least, once upon a time. Saturday used to take me all evening, and sometimes even multiple days. I guess the Times figures they need as many readers as they can so they make these more accessible now. Kind of a bummer— I miss the old days.

Anonymous 6:38 PM  

I’ve never had an entire week of puzzles be so horrible. I’m truly thinking of canceling my subscription after this. Maybe Will needs to retire. It just keeps getting worse

Mike 7:39 PM  

Funny the things that trip us up. I came up with SPA TREATMENTS from the SP, except I somehow entered SPAT TREATMENT on the phone. I thought it could be singular, because the clue is just ambiguous enough and I didn't have a square for the S. I did not notice the stray T for some time. Of course, that gave me a world of trouble for a while.

I also had PEON instead of PAGE and didn't get TONGS for a while.

I wrote in WHO ELSE and deleted it because -H-TS didn't match anything that made sense. To be fair, I was interpreting tittle-tattles more like tattle-tales so that was kind of hopeless for a while. Finally WHO ELSE had to be it and I had enough crosses that I also found HAT TIPS.

Anonymous 8:06 PM  

Or you're getting better....

dgd 8:32 PM  

For me
aha is caught ya when said with one intonation and I get it now with another. Oho is NEVER caught ya. As far as I remember, the puzzle clues/answers vary a lot with these 2. There’s definitely no standard.

Anonymous 8:49 PM  

People change clothes in a cabana by the sea.

Anonymous 8:53 PM  

Metaphorically it does for being outside in hot weather.
Someone above mentioned this angle. Makes sense to me

Mike 10:01 PM  

Merriam-Webster says AHA is an interjection used to express surprise, triumph, or derision.

OHO is an interjection used to express various emotions (as taunting or amused surprise).

When I see this I just fill in -H- and hope one of the crosses resolves it for me. It does seem AHA is correct for "caught ya!" because of the triumph it expresses.

Harry 10:10 PM  

Swap Rex's ratings for Sat (today) and Fri, and you capture my solve experience perfectly.

Today had me sweating. Couldn't parse out the first three across clues in the NW corner. The crossing CABANA and SOLANGE downs totally perplexed me. (I was iffy on whether 6D was STAGS, and originally had yorE vs ONCE .. clue = "years ago").

I spent 20+ minutes working through possible letter combinations in that corner when BALDCAP finally shone through. (I kept looking for some type of "mop" word combo.) Another 5 - 10 min resolved the rest of the corner.

I was about 95% confident that this was going to be a DNF. Having suffered a DNF last Saturday and loathing the possibility of a second DNF this month, I was motivated to keep pushing until success or I bailed in total defeat :) * Big sigh of relief upon completion! *

R 10:58 PM  

Pretty fun! Maybe because the long downs and crosses came easier than usual so I felt like a champion. But, like others, the NW was a toughie. Mainly because I misread the clue on 4D and had "Our" for a long, long time. As in "Our Town" and "Our Team." So I could not parse anything up there. Once I realized my error, it all fell into place and the puzzle became a Saturday triumph.

Anonymous 12:57 PM  

Rough, but ultimately satisfying…

Burma Shave 2:30 PM  

GRAPHIC DATE

WHAT'STHEPOINT, when ONAHIGH,
of GOINGTOETOTOE ONCE, maybe?
WHOELSE but SOLANGE and I
DIDASOLID job? Ask LI'LBABY.

--- ART PEROT

spacecraft 6:34 PM  

Now I'm gonna give my age away. There used to be a single-panel comic called "They'll do it Every Time," by Jimmy Hatlo. He always included a "tip o' the Hatlo hat" to people who wrote in about some misfortune.

I found this one substantially tougher than yesterday's, because I know nothing at all about the Grammys, certainly never watch them. I also didn't know NINA Hoss (HOSS, really? Was she married to a Cartwright?). I know in poker slang, a nine is sometimes referred to as "NINA Ross on a fartin' hoss."

Still, I guessed my way to a correct solution, so major triumph points for that. The long middle entries, both across and down, have some zing to them; birdie.

Wordle birdie.

rondo 7:52 PM  

Not so tough. Did write over AIRtimE to get to AIRDATE. And another hand up for Peon before PAGE. CONS in the corners. NINA Hoss, yeah BABY.
Wordle birdie.

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