Having many syllables / TUE 9-19-23 / Reversible woven fabrics / When said three times classic Benny Goodman tune / South Park kid with a blue-and-yellow beanie /Listen up in Lima / Sir Walter Scott novel set in the middle ages
Tuesday, September 19, 2023
Constructor: Gia Bosko
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Theme answers:
- OBSTREPEROUSLY (18A: In a noisy and unruly manner)
- ANTIDISESTABLI/SHMENTARIANISM (53A: Opposition to the removal of ... / 57A: ... state support from the church)
1
: having many syllables : LONG
2
: given to or characterized by the use of long words
Horace, the ancient Roman poet known for his satire, was merely being gently ironic when he cautioned young poets against using sesquipedalia verba—"words a foot and a half long"—in his book Ars poetica, a collection of maxims about writing. But in the 17th century, English literary critics decided the word sesquipedalian could be very useful for lambasting writers using unnecessarily long words. Robert Southey used it to make two jibes at once when he wrote "the verses of [16th-century English poet] Stephen Hawes are as full of barbarous sesquipedalian Latinisms, as the prose of [the 18th-century periodical] the Rambler." The Latin prefix sesqui- is used in modern English to mean "one and a half times," as in sesquicentennial (a 150th anniversary). (merriam-webster.com)
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[The Susquehanna flows through Owego, NY, which celebrated its sesquicentennial in 1941] |
I think about his reading of "Susquehanna" here ... well, a lot]
The one down side of the theme is OBSTREPEROUSLY, which feels very arbitrary, and, at five syllables, doesn't feel very SESQUIPEDALIAN at all. You wouldn't call "vociferously" or "continuously" SESQUIPEDALIAN (would you?), but it has the same number of syllables as OBSTREPEROUSLY. The clue mentions only "many syllables," and "many" is too vague to be useful. But now I'm arguing with the dictionary definition, which is itself vague. My point is OBSTREPEROUSLY, unlike the other two, seems like an everyday word. Well, maybe not every day, but ... an ordinary word. And it has only 5 syllables, compared to the revealer's 6 and the finale's 12 (!). A poet could even get OBSTREPEROUSLY down to 4 if she wanted to. It's a weird placeholder, is all. I spelled it as if it were POROUS, but that's not why I'm mad at it, I swear.
No trouble with any of the rest of the puzzle except when it came time to enter that SW corner from above and I hit 39A: Chopped to bits and just stopped. Couldn't come up with a word. Even after I had it down to -ICED, I needed the cross (a very unTuesdaylike DAMASKS! (39D: Reversible woven fabrics)) to get DICED, which I always confuse with RICED (which also means "chopped to bits"). So just the slightest of speed bumps there, no big deal. The grid quality is really high today. Enjoyed most every second of solving this. "GET THIS!" "I'M ALL SET!" WHISKEY. Lots to like in this uncharacteristically colorful early-week puzzle. Hope you found it similarly charming. See you tomorrow.
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld
P.S. I confess I don't understand the clue on SEE BELOW (2D: Phrase that would be appropriate at the end of 53-Across). Why would it be appropriate? Is the idea that the word is so strange that it would require further explanation? This clue feels like an awkward attempt to shoehorn more thematic material into the grid. [Oh, this is some punny reference to the word ANTIDISESTABLI-/SHMENTARIANISM being broken in half? One half “below” the other? Huh. Ok]
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112 comments:
The longest word in the English language? As kids we learned
antidisestablishmentarianism.
As a joke, SMILES. It’s a MILE between the esses!
Meh. Thought the puzzle ok for Tuesday until i got totally stuck in SW corner. Even if I’d picked up on the 53/57 clue, still would not have gotten enough of the crosses to figure it out. Not a medium Tuesday in my streak broken book. 🙁
The longest word in the English language. Antidisestablishmentarianism.
As kids we said SMILES. It’s a MILE between the esses!
Rex, I think that because the clue says the answer comes at the end of 53 across, not 57 across, it just means that you have to SEE BELOW to finish the very long word.
I also knew that ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM is the supposed longest word in English, but I also didn’t know what it means. Now that I do, I can say that I am anti-antidisestablishmentarianism. Get the state out of the church, and even more so the church out of the state.
Anybody else have bourbon before WHISKEY? Looked it up, and Jim Beam is a bourbon whiskey but Johnny Walker is not, at least not the familiar ones. (They do make a bourbon, but it’s not well known.)
Looking back at the grid, I read the line at 34 across as COMe GET THIS. Not sure I want to ask what…
See Below refers to the fact that the answer to 53 continues at 57, just below it
I arrived at college at the beginning of the university's SESQUIcEntennial celebration, so that word was etched into my memory. I realized that it didn't fit and had a little trouble with it because I thought the anklebone as a TAgUS (I originally thought TArsus, but it didn't fit). While working on the SW, I noticed SHME at the beginning of 57A, but stuck with it and figured it out.
@Rex, I think "SEE BELOW" at 2D refers to the first part of ANTIDIS... at 53A. The "below" is the continuation of the word at 57A.
We must be of similar age, because back then, learning our language was a thing.
This narrow grid was unexpectedly fun; the across themers were so out of left field. I knew OBSTREPEROUSLY, but not SESQUIPEDALIAN. ANTIDISESTABLI/SHMENTARIANISM was almost a gimme!
For 3 down had HAND DOWN before PASS DOWN, and 6 down "Imagines" had SUSPECTS before SUPPOSES.
I call major error on the clue for 9 down: WHISKEY with an E is only used for the American and Irish versions; the Scottish and Canadian versions are spelled WHISKY. And it's Johnnie Walker whisky, not Johnny Walker whiskey! Dammit Will, Johnnie not Johnny, plus whisky not whiskey, what a bullshit clue: go to your room and stay there! An acceptable clue for the answer would be "Jameson or Jim Beam".
[Spelling Bee: Mon 0, my last 2 words this curious pair.
Sun ended up -1, missing this 9er ending a 7 day streak.]
I had always thought that pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis was the longest English word, but after checking Google it seems it was a word made up in 1935 by Everett Smith, the president of the National Puzzlers League. Nevertheless, it was definitely listed in the old unabridged dictionary that sat in our house and was consulted often for 40+ years.
I’m happy Rex didn’t engage in floccinaucinihilipilification of this puzzle because I liked it.
Like Thomaso808, I also thought of pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis!
The world of medicine is often accused of creating unnecessarily long words, but I’m pretty sure "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicoconiosis" isn’t one of them. We call it "silicosis".
But, "pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism"? Yeah, that’s a real thing.
See, this was a Tuesday puzzle for this crowd right here. Word obsessed, eccentric, clever, not too try-hard while still flexing some muscle. I was super pleased with being able to drop in all the theme answers (though I had TORUS instead of TALUS for a bit, so -PEDArIAN, I often get those confused), and my goodness how impressive that double stacked word is. Worth the price of admission alone. I loved this weird, nerdy puzzle.
And, I don’t know how many younger solvers would have come across any of the theme crosses, and I suspect we may have some younger puzzlers crying foul for a Tuesday. I could be wrong - curious to see how it plays out!
@PabloinNH from the other day - I saw you mention that you never know how many R’s are in “harass” - me too! Same thing with the M’s and R’s in “tomorrow.” Isn’t it funny how the brain works? I know how to spell OBSTREPEROUSLY but not tomorrow.
Fortunately I got enough of the grid filled in to recognize that the theme answers were either going to be (1) gibberish, or (2) something that may be real, but looks like gibberish. I just went through the motions to finish, but no big “aha” for me - I just don’t get AMPed up at parsing together a theme like today’s, which kind of reminded me of one of those dreaded quote or quip themes.
That SW corner was a litte trivia-heavy as well, with South Park, a novelist and Walter Scott shoved in there with the two theme entries at the bottom.
I learned sesquipedalian from this Jim Infantino song and never forgot it. https://youtu.be/k6zFDPRSsUw?si=CDglTHqjlRdpLefD
In a vainglorious moment, I once uttered while bartending, "There's a lot of sesquipedalianism as this bar but not a lot of perspicuity." One of my customers actually laughed.
It’s a stretch, but “See below” could be a response from the church at the threat of antidisestablishmentarianism. A polite church-y way of saying “go to hell”
This is shaping up to be the week for ‘people I don’t really know anything about, but can fill in because they are in a lot of crosswords’. Yesterday, LENA. Today, EDIE, LAHTI, AVA.
I look forward to tomorrow’s selection.
Wish this had run on Monday, to see what Gill I would have done with these words.
Like Rex, I enjoyed the weirdness of this, but could do without all the three letter words. Anyway, I just came here to say:
@Rex: you missed a trick by not posting this song.
Well, why not base a puzzle on that looooooooong word we all learned as kids?
That word has only shown up once before in any of the major crossword outlets, in the Times, on 7/1/2001, on a Friday themeless puzzle -- as a middle-row string of rebuses! They looked like this: AN TI DIS ES TAB LISH MEN TA RI AN ISM.
And who would have thought one could stack the two halves of that word one atop the other and still turn out a silky smooth no-junk grid? Look at the crosses – it’s a thing of beauty.
Layer on a most lovely related word – SESQUIPEDALIAN – which was a TIL for me, one I’ll remember, and by golly I will try to throw it into a conversation with a straight face this week.
Throw in the rhyming DOW / BAO / LAO, that lovely sing-song rhyming second row (SEE BELOW, IVANHOE), and have MARY ASH in one of the rows, eliciting MARY Kay ASH, founder of the cosmetic giant Mary Kay – and you’ve stirred a lot of color into this grid.
Gia, this is your third NYT puzzle. You only had one NYT rejection before your first was published. Your second was a POW (remember those?). And today’s is most clever and fun, a terrific springboard for the day. You’ve become high on my radar, and thank you for making this!
Thanks okanaganer 5:55, I wondered about the whisky/WHISKEY spelling, but hadn’t checked. That and the misspelling of Johnnie are pretty ridiculous errors.
Agree with Rex’s review, except I think OBSTREPEROUSLY definitely qualifies as SESQUIPEDALIAN. Checked and rechecked the crosses that had 57A starting with SHM before I figured out what was going on.
Theme less - but agree with Rex on the quality of the overall fill. Vertical stretched grid gives us some nice longs - GATHERER, IVANHOE, I’M ALL SET. That center section is a little glommy - but I love me some BAO buns. Try the pumpkin BAO at Golden Steamer on Mott if you’re downtown.
You can keep the dopey polysyllabic words - the rest was a Tuesday pleasure.
Generally agree with @okanaganer’s take on 9d - although Makers Mark is a Kentucky bourbon that uses the WHISKY spelling. Laura Cantrell
Johnny Walker is WHISKY, not WHISKEY. Scotch whisky never has an E
Thx, Gia, for the this exhilarating workout! 😊
Very hard (Thurs. time).
Not on the right wavelength for this one at all. :(
Dnfed with TArUS.
Nevertheless, an excellent, challenging puz. :)
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Tim Croce's #843 was relatively easy (2 x NYT Sat.). First pass took half my total time, yielding only five short answers. Success in the end, and learned some stuff! :) On to Elizebeth Gorski's Mon. New Yorker. 🤞
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interesting puzzle, easy because so much of the fill was routine. My only criticism is that the long answers should be similar...either one continuous sentence or two separate ones. As constructed, it really isn't a theme.
Love this Duke Ellington song, fitting with the theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA1gfjvpFOE&pp=ygUuYW50aWRpc2VzdGFibGlzaG1lbnRhcmlhbmlzbWlzdCBkdWtlIGVsbGluZ3Rvbg%3D%3D
Could see this tripping people up especially if they’re solving on paper. DeMASK/eVA and anything in the middle of TALUS if you don’t know your bones or the long crosses.
The longest German word, Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung, car insurance.
I think of a man walking into an agent's office and sayin, "Are you still open?" The agent says, "Yes, what are you looking for?" And after the man says, "Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung," the agent says, "Oops, we just closed."
I love Eric Blore too. Can’t get enough of him. Puzzle great except for piday
A couple of years ago a granddaughter asked me if I knew any long words, so I taught her SESQUIPEDALIAN, since it was both an example and a definition. Also I was showing off. Anyway, that went in as soon as I read the clue.
I can recall exactly the first time I saw OBSTREPEROUSLY in print. I was reading "Franny and Zooey", Zooey was trying to shave, but his razor kept slipping OBSTREPEROUSLY into the sink. It is funny how a mind works (hi @Weezie).
Hand up for that long word at the bottom being the supposed longest word in the English language back in the day. Any kid interested in words knew that one.
AVA has finally sunk in, as has LAHTI, thanks to crossworld. I even remembered CARTMAN although I have watched South Park maybe twice.
Thought this was a wonderful Tuesday, GB. Great Big smiles all way through a puzzle for word lovers, and thanks for all the fun.
I was going to comment that if nobody else did. Tho it occurs to me now the difference in spelling is similar to color / colour. Neither are wrong, just have different precedents.
Sesquipedalian only jumped out at me because I once read someone describe William F. Buckley as a “reptilian sesquipedalian.” That’s a hard line to forget.
Liked a lot of stuff here, although I should note that ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM is Not A Word as per most dictionaries. It was never used in a meaningful sense, and the "definition" given is back-generated from its etymology. If you look for any usage, it'll almost always be given as "an example of a long word." See Kory Stamper's "Word by Word" for more lexicographical harumphing and general language heresies (e.g. adverbial "good" and the long and nuanced history of "irregardless,").
Played hard for me, thanks to that NE corner (TALUS/LAHTI cross was very un-Tuesday-like), but came together in the end. Thanks for the smile, Gia!
I say this as a self-aware pedant, but "riced" does not mean chopped into small bits. One rices potato or cauliflower by pushing it though small holes like play-doh. So extruded, not chopped.
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Pretty neat idea. Pretty strange first two 14's. In case no one's mentioned it, grid is 14x16, netting you one less square than a 15x15. I want my square! 😁
Trouble in North Center. Not knowing how to spell either 14, was stuck. OYE was new, started doubting my ONEEYED cyclops. SUPPOSES and DREW and SEWS strangely tough to grok. Filled everything in to get the dreaded Almost There. Turns out I had TArUS for TALUS. Phooey. One-letter DNF.
Fill surprisingly good, considering the stacked 14's, especially since the ANTI-- was locked into it's spot. And with wide corners, so kudos to that.
I thought there was a longer word in English? Maybe not. Who knows what the ole brain is doing...
TALUS... dang
Two F's
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Guess I had a really off day or an in the minority willing to admit that this was hard for a Tuesday. If a novice solver encountered this puzzle and thought this would be the norm, most would give up the crossword game then and there. Not saying it’s bad, just not easy-medium.
Played harder than a Tuesday for me.
Didn’t know TALUS. Put it down as tarus which worked well enough for the long cross as I didn’t know that one either!
SW corner was definitely tough for a Tuesday.
Not sure I've seen an error in both a clue and its answer, but 9D did just that with JOHNNY instead of JOHNNIE and WHISKEY instead of WHISKY. Not sure how that got past the editor.
I once heard of PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICVOLCANOSILICONAOSIS. But I don't own any.
Gia Bosko’s 4/10/23 Monday was the easiest puzzle Rex had ever done, with five intentionally redundant phrases.
Today’s was just WOW! POW! Or any other ANTI-SESQUIPEDALIAN rave I can think of…
How can any spanner start SHMEN? Maybe the legendary SHMENge Brothers (“cabbage rolls and coffee, mmm-mmm good!”)?
Didn’t know (or had forgotten) SESQUIPEDALIAN but it came together - as did the rest of the puzzle when I saw the clever bisecting at 53/57.
Outstanding puzzle, Gia!
Meh. Too many misses on clueing for me. Nits yes, but still.
Probably most surprised by Rex’s problem with DICED. Confusing it with rICED. Lol. Also, expected a lot more railing by Southside Johnny on the SW, which also includes the crossword constructors’ favorite 3 letter Hollywood director AVA. That’s a lot of PPP surrounding/crossing the 2 theme spanners. C’mon Johnny, gimme the hate.
Great puzzle. I really enjoyed it.
Not to be picky, although I’m about to be: Johnny Walker is not whiskey. It’s whisky. Ask any Irishman or Scot.
I agree that this brought a new level of cleverness and fun to the Tuesday solving experience. I struggled a bit at first, but ended up finishing in less than my average Tuesday time. And I enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks, Gia!
Fun puzzle, but once you get the three long words there is not much of it left. Oh well, it's Tuesday.
Two thought on ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM--
1) The clue doesn't say anything about its being the longest word in English, so that's not a fair criticism.
2) I am surprised that Rex, and others, never knew what it meant. It's just hard for me to imagine that someone tells you a long word and you don't reply "What does it mean?" Although I guess you do have to know something about the Church of England to understand it (Cf. Henry VIII, or Guy Fawkes for that matter).
Very fun puzzle! I actually laughed out loud when I realized what the bottom answer was. The long downs were great and nothing seemed forced. One-eyed Whiskey Cartman! (Fifth grade joke: Q: Antidisestablishmentarianism is a very long word. Can you spell it? A: Sure. I-T.) Well done, Gia!
Sophisticated -- and extremely funny at the same time. I loved this wacky, unusual Tuesday and actually laughed with delight as I saw that ANTIDISESTABLISHMETARIANISM had not only been broken into two lines, but had been broken smack dab in the middle of the LISH syllable.
It's where the word is broken that makes it truly funny.
My only nit has nothing to do with any error on the constructor's part but with my own coincidental experience just this very morning. TEA is a "coffee alternative"? No, it's surely not. I had already spooned my Folgers into my coffee cup and was about to pour the milk in a separate cup to be warmed in the microwave when I noticed that the milk had gone bad overnight. Damn!
Every time I try to drink coffee black it gives me indigestion, not to mention it also tastes ghastly. So I had to have TEA instead.
I carefully spooned the Folgers back into the Folgers jar. I made the TEA so strong it was almost black. After drinking it, I was still just as sleepy as before. I had a second cup. But I'm still just as sleepy as before. Where's my caffeine fix?
For someone as reliant as I am on coffee to get me going in the morning, TEA is NOT a coffee substitute!
But a delightful puzzle -- even in my foggy state. I was sorry when it was over.
In the US and Ireland, they make Whiskey. In Scotland, they make Whisky. No exceptions allowed.
It's a quibble, but it's a fair quibble.
If the clue had been "Jim Beam or Jameson's", it would have been fine.
I'm surprised that no one else has noted this (via Google):
In 1955, 12-year-old Gloria Lockerman appeared on the popular TV quiz show The $64,000 Question. She correctly spelled "antidisestablishmentarianism" and won $8,000. The following week, she won an additional $16,000 by correctly spelling a sentence....The word "antidisestablishmentarianism" became famous because of the show. Duke Ellington had a song called "You're Just an Old Antidisestablishmentarianismist". Eminem used the word in his song "Almost Famous".
I was 9 years old and still remember seeing that.
SESQUIPEDALIAN is also autological, a word that describes itself, like "English" and "pentasyllabic." There are three others in the grid. Possibly four, depending on how you do the puzzle.
I still remember the day my dad (R.I.P) asked us kids for a word describing “coughing after a dust storm”*. Then he challenged us to spell it. My dad had a funny sense of humor…
Which led me to search for longest Latin word to teach my high school students: incomprehensibilissimorumque (as in one “of the most misunderstood things”)
* pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_words#:~:text=an%20invited%20guest-,Latin,century%20Grammarian%20Peter%20of%20Pisa.
Another reason to prefer bier (or ail) to whisky --- they're easier to spell.
Wait, what?
Hands up for needing an alphabet run at TA_US to finish today. All the short stuff was super easy and solid, then the longer answers and a couple of sections took twice as long as the rest to finish.
@Nancy from yesterday, fair enough about McEnroe having to fill with blather in uninteresting matches - and he's a little too aware of his success, promoting his own travel show (haven't seen it, maybe it's good). At this year's US Open, he was out for the first week with COVID, so he came back just in time for some good matches; maybe we should write in to recommend he always sit out the first week:)
My late father’s wife had a shirt that read, “If you ain’t SESQUIPEDALIAN, you ain’t scatological.” So I knew the word because of her. I guess that’s one plus in her favor.
WAIT! It’s Tuesday?? A great puzzle but I would’ve liked it much better tomorrow. I don’t expect to pick up my Tuesday crossword and find four grid spanning entries like these. My first thought was what ROT, especially in the SW corner with those three proper names. I had SURMISES at 6D, ERGO the crosses looked perfectly fine so I SUPPOSE part of it’s on me for not being familiar with the themers.
Best part of the grid was Christine LAHTI who I don’t think has ever had a FLOP in her entire acting career. I’d love to have a cup of TEA or A BITE to eat with her sometime.
A: Shove it in your ass!
B: INURES!
GATHERER is not the word most often paired with Hunter in the news these days.
I don’t think we can let this longest word subject go without a shoutout to supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. If you say it loud enough you’ll always sound precocious.
This was way funner than a typical Tuesday. More like a barrel of monkeys. Thanks, Gia Bosko.
@Hal9000, thanks for putting in floccinaucinihilipilification because I thought of THAT longest word “rivalry” biz but could not possibly have spelled it well enough to look it up!
Pretty dandy Tuesday puzzle. @weezie, you raise an interesting point with respect to young solvers. I didn’t know SESQUIPEDALIAN but I know but can’t reliably spell OBSTREPEROUSLY. Maybe my age group was always told about the whole ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM “longest word” thing in grade school?
And speaking of @Rex’s high school teacher and “half dollar words,” I didn’t really learn THAT concept until law school. One of the easiest ways to piss off a judge is to pepper your legal argument with words that he has refer to a dictionary to make sure he gets your drift.
This had to be a thrill for the constructor to complete. That “I got it. I really got it.” moment had to be exhilarating. I’m thrilled to have encountered this charming, smiling gift of joy. Keep them coming. BRAVA Gia. BRAVA indeed.
For me, tough on top and easy after that. If I'd ever encountered SESQUIPEDALIAN before, I'd forgotten it and needed about every cross. Slowing me down: 1) not being able to come up with NOUN (after I bragged about being a grammar lover yesterday); 2) guessing SUrmiSES instead of SUPPOSES; 3) not knowing my TArsus from my TALUS. Thanks to those who explained how SEE BELOW works with 53A - very cute! I also liked the cross of GATHERER and GET THIS.
@CT2Napa 10:37 - I was glad to see your post. I, too, was a grade-schooler who saw that show and never forgot that answer.
@Michael (8:52) As a fellow pedant, I agree that riced does not mean finely chopped; however DICED does.
Wowee that was a tough Tuesday. And an enormous amount of fun. Getting the spelling right on those spanners was a slow process. I had heard of all three words, but couldn't have defined them. The other clues were delightfully inventive. Days like these make our 14 cents worth every penny.
@dgd Thanks for the kind word yesterday. Every now and then a puzzle offers up a nice phrase and even more rarely I don't mess up the clue. It's always fun to me when I learn somebody actually read one!
Uniclues:
1 Bear boy beverage bash.
2 Where to get Jiggy with It.
3 Hand over feather-stuffed cartoon character.
4 What he thinks might bring him happiness.
5 Hunter who'd been the victim of an errant arrow.
6 Why I woke up in my underwear in Toledo.
1 KOALA GENT TEA
2 SEE BELOW IVANHOE
3 PASS DOWN CARTMAN
4 SUPPOSES MASSAGE
5 ONE EYED GATHERER
6 WHISKEY HAD A BITE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Eau de Diabolical Rubber Duck. EVIL BATH SCENT.
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On the tough side for me too...spelling issues, cross referencing, PPP, doubt...made for slow going. NE was last to fall because bone confusion. This was more irritating than fun.
Some hefty vocab for a TuesPuz, but like @RP said: "Different/weird is good". Plus, the 28-letterer ANTIDIS…ETC went in offa nuthin, so that was a record-settin gimme, at our house.
staff weeject picks: Symmetric(al) LEA & TEA. Symmetric(al) MED & MAD. Antidisesymmetric(al) LAO & BAO.
Losta other good/weird stuff, includin: SEEBELOW right next to PASSDOWN. IMALLSET. TINYTOT. GETTHIS. NOUN clue. KOALA sleepin habits. ETC.
Thanx for the fun syllable-fest, Ms. Bosko darlin. Good/weird puz. Learnt m&e some new words (BAO was the best one, cuz it dug 2 syllables outta just 3 letters).
Masked & Anonymo3Us
plenty different/weird fix #2:
**gruntz**
Boring easy fill, paired with a bunch of letter garbage…. Oooh… how fun….
Sadly, the ASH trees are dying in droves from some boring bug. Bags are mostly maple now.
Well I'll be!....Today we get adult long words that we learned how to spell when we were young(ish)....
Confession #1...I've never heard of (that I can recall) 15A SESQUI blah blah blah nor 18A OBSTRE blah blah blah. But I knew how to spell all the downs so I finished those grown-up words.
Confession #2....I knew ANTIDIS blah blah blah because everyone was supposed to know it...it was famous....If you could spell it you were a genius blah blah blah.
Confession #3....This was fun especially because you had FOIE gras and WHISKEY. I still don't know the difference between Whisky and Whiskey. I think Whisky costs more?
My first long word that I learned to spell was Nebuchadnezzar. I want to see him in a crossword.
OYE. Love that word but I add an ME at the end.
I learned the longest word in Spanish because I'm that sort of person. Do you want to know it? No? Well I thought you should know in case it comes up with Nebuchadnezzar...Ready? Electroencefalografista. A brain graph. See? and it's spelled just like it sounds.
I'm getting off topic here...But it reminds me of what a lousy speller I am and wondering why POTATO doesn't have an E at the end of it
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@Kitshef 7:10...I would've named my bar after them. :-)
@Nancy 10:18....TEA. All the Brits I know always have to have a cup of coffee to perk themselves up in the morning. After the perk-up, they go on to drink their TEA. There are a zillion varieties but a good cup along with a sweet of some sort is delicious. Also, if you're thirsty, TEA takes care of that. Another also...Peet's coffee. You drink Folgers? Good gravy! No wonder TEA won't wake you up. Hah.
Another off topic alert: This is for @Nancy:
Peet's dark French roast. Buy yourself a French press. They're good for two to three cups. Boil water. Add about half of the boiled water into the press. Make a little slurry. Add the rest. Set timer for exactly 4 minutes. Meanwhile, add a little milk and a little Hazelnut Delight to you mug then zap it for one minute. Froth it for about 30 seconds with a frother. Add you coffee and then sip. It's like having a pick me up dessert for breakfast. Let me know how it tastes!
Wow, Gia!
You give us all these great, impressive "killer" words & then you throw in "South Park kid with blue & yellow beanie" - ???
@GILL -- Good grief, girlfriend, do you turn every foray into your kitchen into a complicated compendium of cookery calisthenics? A French press, indeed! For moi to manipulate? Really?
I'm happy to buy some Peet's dark French Roast if it's the sort of thing you can put a spoonful of into a cup and then add boiling water to. Maybe I'll even like it better than Folgers -- who knows? But a French press?! Good heavens, @GILL, remember it's @Nancy you're talking to!
Sadly, 51 across is no longer correct. The emerald ash borer (and some other invasive pests, exacerbated by stress from climate change) have decimated the population of ash trees, so Major League Baseball players mostly have maple bats nowadays. (see https://theathletic.com/3043389/2022/01/03/its-an-epic-saga-an-exotic-beetle-barry-bonds-joey-votto-and-the-end-of-ash-baseball-bats/?source=user_shared_article for more details).
BTW, my first comment. I have enjoyed (and learned a lot) from this blog over the past few months. Once I'm through leading high holy day services, I hope to start working on constructing my first puzzles.
@Nancy, to add onto what @Gill said… I have found that when I’ve had to drink instant coffee (whatever brand) it upsets my stomach too! However, unlike @Gill, I absolutely hate ANYTHING in my coffee, milk, cream, and definitely not flavored coffee! @Gill’s suggestion of a French press is good for those of us that do not grumpily shlep into the kitchen upon wakening! I’ve solved this by setting up my auto-drip pot before I go to bed then I just have to push a button. Anyhoo, I tend to think the “premium” coffees are a bit strong so I will often get Folgers ground (🤣Gill) but I’ve also found many of the South American coffees to be milder, if you actually PREFER the taste of black coffee. Many of the coffees today have a “burnt bean” process (like Starbucks) and they are VERY hard to “stomach” without some milk.
Go into your local liquor store and try to find two separate sections - one labeled Whiskey, the other Whisky. You won't.
Different English-speaking countries have different spelling conventions. Here in this English-speaking country, we use kilometer, theater, color, Whiskey.
Have a pour and enjoy. Cheers!
I'll chime in to say that as someone who kept drinking coffee with more and more milk until it got to 50/50 and finally got diagnosed with severe heartburn, I fully hear y'all about coffee's hazards but wow do I miss it. But due to necessity, I haven't drank it in about 15 years. I rely on Celestial Seasoning's Morning Thunder tea, which is a black tea that also has maté in it. It's not quite as much caffeine as would be in a cup of coffee, but it's close, and between that and my ADHD meds I'm able to join the living. My partner is very fond of Bustelo Supreme instant coffee - it's a bit spendy, but we buy it in bulk on the internet and they have it only occasionally.
In 4th grade we had races to see who could spell antidisestablishmentarianism the fastest (I won and can still speed spell it). So fun to see it in the crossword all these years (59? 60?) later!!
I, too drink my coffee black. Hate the burnt Starbucks. I drink a cafe americano daily - made either in a moka or our beautiful Electra espresso machine . Illy is my coffee of choice.
Same here! Exactly.
@Lewis 7:30 am.. the puzzle you mention as "7/1/2001, on a Friday themeless puzzle"... what date is that exactly? Both January 7 and July 1, 2001 were Sundays.
I will say this... When I'm ordering at a bar and I say give me a whiskey and I am intending any scotch or bourbon, I spell it in my head with the 'e.' I.e. I would never call a whiskey a whisky that's more blasphemous. But, the other way around I'm more lenient. That being said why not just use Makers or Jack or Jameson to be unambiguous.
Spelling Johnnie with a 'y' is completely unacceptable, though.
The autological words in the puzzle are NOUN, ONEEYED, QTIP, and, possibly, ITALICS.
There is an orchid plant called "Angraecum Sesquipedalae" ("petal-and-a-half"), featuring a six-inch long spur descending from the flower. There's a famous (!?) story among orchidists regarding Charles Darwin predicting the existence of a pollinating moth with a six-inch tongue. When years later the moth was actually discovered, they named it Xanthopan (yellow) Morganii Praedicta. Anyway, that's how I learned the "sesqui" prefix.
I had the same mental blip that @Rex had with SESQUIPEDALIAN. Had to hop over to the NE to work my way down to the -DALIAN. The rest was smooth and the overall solve very enjoyable. Lovely Tuesday solve.
As the earliest Anon comment this morning has come to said, my generation learned both ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM and the sMILEs joke in school. I specifically recall learning it in 5th grade when my brother came home having learned it in 7th. Ever eager to be like my big brother, I quickly committed both to memory. My brother even told me that it means “the people who are against the people who are against church-state support,” which isn’t bad for a 7th or 5th grade understanding.
The only reason we even had a teensy understanding of church-state issues is that several of the seminal Free Exercise/Establishment cases arose in or were joined with cases originating in Ohio so were on and in the news often as they worked their way through the system.
Also, my grandfather was in the Ohio AG’s office and he insisted on us learning about government: local, state and Federal. His frequent Sunday afternoon “seminars” are the foundation of my eventual legal career. I treasure every one of those sessions now and hope he forgave the occasional childish pranks to avoid them. He always had those tiny two-piece Chiclets gum boxes (my age showing again) hidden somewhere in his pockets or his shirt collar or even behind his very large ears. He’d sneak one out as the session went on to see of we were observant and to keep us engaged. He was a very stern and undemonstrative man, scary even, but as I grew, I understood that love comes to us in so many different ways. His love ran deep and every single time I appeared in any courtroom, I felt so grateful for that stern live that instilled on me the appreciation for clear and cogent advocacy and well organized argument. And the love of its power.
Loved this! After the first two 14-letter grid spanners, I looked forward to what I could only assume (because I didn’t completely read the clue for 15-Across) were the two at the bottom and laughed to fill in, instead, a wraparound word that also spanned the grid. Hand up for learning 53-/57-Across as a grade schooler (hi, @Lewis, and I too miss POWs) as this unbelievably long word made the circuit of disbelief. An unexpected solve and so much fun, Gia, thanks! Thanks, too, Rex, for contextualizing (LOL) sesquipedalian.
Fun puzzle, and one of the tougher Tuesdays
@Nancy…🤣🤣…I just KNEW you weren’t a French press girl!
@weezie, do all the Bustelo coffees have that hint of cinnamon taste that I tend to associate with Mexican coffee? I will say, if the cinnamon isn’t overpowering it’s the ONE flavor I enjoy.
@CDilly52…yes…we are of the same mind. Well-organized, clear, and cogent. Hah! I’d like to think I am/have been very good at doing that IN MY WORK. Not so much on this blog.
Not the Irish, they spell it ey same as American fyi
But we’re not Scottish or Irish. Americans spell it whiskey. Not being jingoistic, just saying that’s how language works. It is correct in American English.
Agreed.
Whisky is the spelling of the British Isles. Whiskey is the American spelling. There are many words spelled differently in the US and there. Why is the correct American spelling an egregious error?
53/54 is long enough to be a sentence but it isn’t one. The longest word in many dictionaries That’s part of the theme. There is no other word to fit at 15/18. andwhat you are asking for is impossible. So the constructor found 2 fourteen letter words, which fit the theme, overly long words.
AT THE VERY LEAST this is a medium difficulty for a Tuesday, if not harder. I mean, c'mon. Those words just aren't Tuesday words. I hate having a semi difficult time and coming here and Rex is like, Easy amirite?
Exactly!
@Gill -- I agree with you on Peet's French Roast. But I'm TFC (too cheap) to spring for it and have found the Costco near us (NJ) has a Kirkland Whole Bean French Roast that is very good too. It's under $5/lb.
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@Nancy 12:04 HAH! Calisthenics schmalisthenics. A French Press is easy peasy. Maybe it takes a bit longer than pouring hot water into instant coffee (gasp) but if you really like a good strong cup (or mild) use it. It only takes four minutes ...enough time to fry up an egg and make some toast. I also like it black (Hi @Beezer) and Peet's is the way to go for moi. Remember...this is good advice for a lady that likes steak tartare and a good glass of wine...No?
OYE me...se lo que te digo!
@okanaganer - A typo of sorts on Lewis' part. July 1, 2011 was the date.
Thanks!
How is elate send
Not sure I agree since Scotch is shorthand for Scotch Whisky and Bourbon is short for Bourbon Whiskey. But it is a crossword so flexibility in language is expected.
@Anon 9:21am i agree too. this didn't seem very apt for a tuesday. i am still a bit blown away that rex thinks "obstreperously" is a tuesday word and a normal word in general. (i thought at first this was sarcasm but never saw a "just kidding" or punchline.) i have a pretty great vocabulary and have never heard of it. i get that it's part of the theme, but still. while i know both INURES and LAO, i only know them as clued because i've been solving the NYT crossword for awhile. also, i didn't know TALUS and at some point guessed TArUS because all i could think of was something body related i had heard before and that was "tarsal" and thought "tarus" might be A Thing. SESQUIPEDArIAN seemed like a totally plausible word - i hadn't heard of SESQUIPEDALIAN before now either. like you, i'm not saying it's a bad puzzle and i'm not mad at it, but it was difficult in places and not exactly a welcoming or usual tuesday for newer solvers.
i will add to the coffee convo:
1. my partner wanted to drink nice coffee at home but i didn't want a coffee maker taking up room (nevermind something else i have to clean) so i showed him how to use a pourover setup. problem solved. i don't drink coffee, but my dad does and that's how he's done his for years. and both he and my partner buy $15-16/lb stuff. all you have to do is spend five bucks on one of these that will last a lifetime:
https://shoponline.melitta.com/collections/pour-over%E2%84%A2/products/1-cup-pour-over-coffee-brew-cone-black/?c
put it on top of the cup. put a filter in it, scoop coffee in, pour boiling water in. boom, bob's your uncle.
2. if you drink cow's milk i highly recommend buying organic. i switched years ago and will never go back. it lasts ages. it's actually more cost effective for us vs. the conventional stuff because i never throw any of it out because it doesn't go bad before we can use it. i swear regular milk starts smelling weird within a day of being opened. look at the expiration dates next time you go shopping.
Uncharacteristically is 8 syllables! Good one Rex!
Agreed. I unfortunately knew neither obstreperously nor sesquipedalian, and I had the misfortune to enter surmises rather than supposes. And I know enough Spanish to know that iye looks wrong, but not enough to know oye.
@kitshef -- Thank you for posting the correct date! And @okanaganer, I'm sorry for the mistake!
Rex said OBSTREPEROUSLY is a basic word?
Really?? Are you shitting me?
Hated it. Way over my head
Of course!
@1SunnyJim – well, OBSTREPEROUS is fairly common. I don't think the adverbial form turns up that much.
I’m actually surprised Rex loved this. I did not enjoy it. I found it to be filled with crosswordese so that it could make the long answers work. AVA crossing IVANHOE. LAHTI crossing LAO. DAMASKS. EDIE. All stuff I know from the recesses of my brain by doing crosswords for a while, but stumpers for normal people. I’d never heard of the first long word and wasn’t 100% of the spelling of the second one. I got there, but I didn’t enjoy it.
I’ll ask this question again for the prior poster: how does ELATE mean SEND? I can’t figure that out.
Send as in, You really send me. Listed as definition 2 in Apple's dictionary:
2
• [with object] (informal) affect with powerful emotion; put into ecstasy: it's the spectacle and music that send us, not the words.
So to elate someone is to "send" them in that sense
Slam-bang easy, but fun. Soon as I saw the 53/57 clue, I knew. Odd...no, actually even dimensions: 14x16. Big, open corners with 7- and 8-stacks, plus two more in the center. Good stuff. Juxtaposed: HADABITE/IMALLSET. (Maybe it was POTATO.)
I liked the "instruction" at 2-down. It adds to the absurdity of the whole deal. Ms. LAHTI is DOD, along with innumerable MARYs. Eagle.
Wordle birdie--but should've been an eagle, had I not WASTEd a turn.
Very good puzzle. But I had a tough time solving 53-57A, mainly because I thought they were two seperate words. Gotta pay attention to those dots… Also, I was stuck on rNA before DNA for far too long.
As a result this one was very challenging for a Tuesday, for me that is.
GET DOWN
Just SEE where THIS MASSAGE has led,
MARY and I are ALLSET for A TRYST,
and OBSTREPEROUSLY head for BED,
IFSO, I SUPPOSE I can't WAIT to GETTHIS.
--- DREW CARTMAN
The misspelling of Johnnie is unforgivable, but I decided to go to their site, and saw that, even though they use the word whisky for the most part, they also use the Whiskey spelling on it.
I also got a bad vibe from the [sic]Johnny Walker and Jim Beam clue. Johnnie is WHISKY and Jim is WHISKEY. I swear that I could be an editor for the NYT Xword and do a better job. They're mailing it in, probably for a nice check.
Wordle par.
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