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Sunday, September 10, 2023

Constructor: Adam Wagner

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: "Detours Ahead" — you get one theme answer the normal way and another answer if you take the "detour," a word for "road" that sits underneath the regular theme and answers and, when substituted for the letters directly above it, provides a second theme answer (the primary clue is crossed out and the DETOUR clue is offered immediately thereafter):

Theme answers:
  • BOB CRATCHIT / B(ROADWAY) HIT (22A: Dickens clerk DETOUR: Theatrical success)
  • US BORDERS / USB (DRIVE)S (45A: Homeland Security concerns DETOUR: Computer port inserts)
  • EMU EGGS / EM(PATH)S (68A: They're laid in Australia DETOUR: They feel your pain)
  • FILM SPEED / FIL(L A NE)ED (88A: Photographer's setting DETOUR: Come in handy)
  • ELASTIC BAND / E (STREET) BAND (112A: Feature of some sweatpants DETOUR: Well-known musical group with a place name)

Word of the Day: LIAR'S DICE (110A: Classic game of bluffing) —
Liar's dice is a class of dice games for two or more players requiring the ability to deceive and to detect an opponent's deception. In "single hand" liar's dice games, each player has a set of dice, all players roll once, and the bids relate to the dice each player can see (their hand) plus all the concealed dice (the other players' hands). In "common hand" games, there is one set of dice which is passed from player to player. The bids relate to the dice as they are in front of the bidder after selected dice have been re-rolled. Originating during the 15th century, the game subsequently spread to Latin American and European countries. In 1993, a variant, Call My Bluff, won the Spiel des Jahres. (wikipedia)
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This is clearly a structurally ingenious puzzle, so I'm sitting here trying to figure out why it left me so cold. I mean, you've got detours that *are themselves* words for "road," which really gives coherence to the whole premise—you take a different path that is literally a path. Nice. I think the trouble was that I got it. I got it early. And then ... well, I guess there was some surprise left, in that you got to find out what the DETOURs were gonna be and how the different answers were gonna be parsed, but aside from the gimmick making the whole theme very easy (when you know those DETOURs are "roads, it doesn't take but a cross or two to just fill them right in), it didn't have any humor or twists or ... anything. I feel like once I saw the gimmick done once, every subsequent iteration couldn't get more than an "oh, OK" out of me. So I am in a place I've been many times before—admiring the architecture but not enjoying the solving experience so much. The other thing that was weirdly off-putting was how very very hard the puzzle seemed to be trying to be hip and now and current. On the one hand, better that than bland or stale. On the other hand, it started veering into "Hello, fellow youths!" territory. Something about BADASSERY into "SO ... YEAH" made me think "ah I see, yes, those are fresh, and colloquial, and I like them fine ... but that's about enough of that." And then "OH MAMA!" came along and made me think "SO ... YEAH, too much" and then SNEAKS snuck in there (as well as "kicks," in the clue), and then there was, well, whatever XBOX KINECTS is, and all of it eventually really put me in a wincing mood. 


Also balked at MINITACO (83D: Bite-size Tex-Mex snacks). I had MINI- and thought "this isn't going to be MINI TACO, is it?" But it was. I dunno. How small does a taco have to be before it's mini? Anyway, my point is that I was having trouble connecting (kinecting?) to a lot of the fill, especially the fill that was supposed to be flashy and new. LIAR'S DICE? "Classic?" I read the opening of the wikipedia entry (above, Word of the Day) and still had no clear idea what this game entails. This one was just missing left right and center. But again, I can't deny the cleverness of the theme concept and layout. The fact that the fill frequently hurt my teeth is very likely just a matter of taste. A me problem, as they say (sidenote: would actually love to see AMEPROBLEM, or better yet, AYOUPROBLEM, in the grid someday).


E STREET BAND was the one themer I felt really didn't work, since the "detour" (STREET) was being used in the DETOUR answer as a standalone word, instead of just a letter string (the way all the other DETOUR answers are used). Those DETOURs should all be BURIED inside their respective answers, but STREET is just sitting there ... being a STREET. An E STREET ... no hiding, no burying. DRIVE is also being used as a standalone word in its answer (USB DRIVES), but in that case the meaning of DRIVE is entirely non-roadway, which to me is just as good as being BURIED. The point is that the roadways should not be roadways in the DETOUR answers, and with E STREET BAND, the roadway is, in fact, a roadway. That's inelegant. Remind me to tell you some time about when my wife got sick and I thought I was getting sick and then our neighbors offered us Springsteen tickets and we had to turn them down (!) and then Bruce canceled his September tour dates because of some kind of ulcer disease. Having turned down the tickets, I doubt we're going to get offered them again for the rescheduled show. They're probably already spoken for. The bats are no longer living in our house, but I feel like their curse is still upon us.


BIRDS OF PREY (4D: Hunt-and-peck types?) ... I don't know if you know this, but they don't "peck" their prey so much as shred and mutilate and devour it. I get that you want the typing misdirection there, but ... these aren't hens we're talking about. I don't love RATED M, but it's definitely a thing you hear at the beginning of ads for video games in particular ("RATED M for 'Mature'"). "NO KIDS" feels like no fun—some of my best wedding memories involve kids—but hey, it's your wedding (65D: Restriction on some wedding invites). I hope you all knew what KVASS was (91A: Fermented drink from Russia) because that XBOX KINECTS answer kould easily have proven treacherous if you didn't. I knew KVASS, so no trouble with the "K," but the "I," YEESH, I can't believe how long it took me to get / make sense of BIO at 97A: Cells are covered in it, in brief. BIOlogy (class) covers the topic of cells, probably, yes. Anything else need explaining? Jacob stole ESAU's identity, in a way (12D: Early victim of identity theft?). Stole his birthright, but same difference, I guess.
Rebecca counsels Jacob to pretend to be Esau, in order to obtain the blessing [of the firstborn, from his father Isaac] in his brother's stead. He dressed himself in Esau's best clothes and disguised himself by covering his arms in lamb skin so that if his blind father touched him, he would think Jacob his more hirsute brother. Jacob brought Isaac a dish of goat meat prepared by Rebecca to taste like venison. Isaac then bestowed the blessing (bekhorah), which confers a prophetic wish for fertility (vv. 27–28) and dominion (v.29), on Jacob before Esau's return. (wikipedia)
What else? I thought that the [Component of a beekeeper's suit] was a MASK. Two letters in common with MESH. Tricky. Gregor SAMSA is from Kafka's Metamorphosis, but you probably knew that. One last thing: in case you missed it (and it seems highly possible that you did), there's a new episode of the BBC Documentary podcast featuring none other than crossword constructing phenom Robyn Weintraub, who walks us through the basics of her puzzle-making process and tells us how she got into crosswords in the first place. It's a delightful interview. Check it out here. And here's a still from the promo video she made for the podcast. I keep it on my phone. It makes me happy.

[*black squares that don't divide anything, but just make the grid easier to fill]

See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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75 comments:

jae 12:07 AM  

Easy-medium seems right. Clever and amusing, liked it.

No WOEs and mAmA before DADA was mostly it for erasures.

Always nice to see Dexys Midnight Runners’s only hit in the puzzle.

Joe Dipinto 12:32 AM  

I solved this Themers Only, starting with the very obvious 22 and 27a. (At 112a I absent-mindedly entered STREET where LASTIC was supposed to go, so I had one writeover.) I did consult down clues along the way, but once the themers were entered I didn't bother with the rest of the grid – it looked like a too much of a 96d.

FILL A NEED is particularly odious, followed closely by EMU EGGS.

Have a lazy, hopefully not too rainy, afternoon.

Minoridreans 12:33 AM  

All week people have found the puzzles easy - not me. This was the first puzzle of the week that I beat my average time! I actually 'got' the whole detour with the e street band. I had all of the themers but emu eggs (I had path) filled in but hadn't taken the detours! So I liked street even if it was a street and the detour.

Randy L 12:33 AM  

Yeah this one bored me too. Way too easy for a Sunday and I didn't like the lame non-words (badassery?). The only thing that held me up a moment was the unique spelling of Elayne.

Ken Freeland 12:45 AM  

Pretty much agree with Rex... I didn't understand the gimmick until I had completed the puzzle, but have to agree it was cleverly constructed and because it WAS workable, notwithstanding, I give it a good rating...

Ann Howell 4:23 AM  

Any excuse to get a Springsteen video in the blog is fine with me! But yeah, agree with others and Rex - it was a rather flat solve.

Conrad 5:20 AM  


Fairly easy because once you got the idea the themers provided three clues for two answers. Overwrites included

BOB CRATCHeT at 22A and @jae mAmA before DADA at 71A. The puzzle is right -- all my kids said DADA before mAmA. Cute having DADA cross OH MAMA.

KVASS (31A) was a WOE and I needed Sergey & Larry for XBOX KINECTS (I thought it was CONNEX, which didn't fit).


Anonymous 6:08 AM  

Is Homeland Security concerned with USBORDERS? Is anyone?

Anonymous 6:17 AM  

I appreciated the erroneous spelling of “Come On Eileen”

mmorgan 6:44 AM  

The process of figuring out how the theme answers worked in Across Lite — which does not support the “special features” of this puzzle — was indeed puzzling and kinda fun. I liked how the “detours” were indeed all types of “roads” etc. The rest of the puzzle was a strange combination of the super easy and the I have no idea, and some was a struggle (not unpleasant), but ultimately gettable from crosses. But the BIO and XBOXKINECTS crossing was a complete and utter Natick for me (and I guessed wrong) but I suspect it was a gimme for many.

bocamp 7:26 AM  

Thx, Adam; you brought your A GAME to this one! 😊

Med (felt tougher).

Just a bit over avg time.

Didn't catch on to the trick until later in the game. 'Twas a big help in a successful solve.

Loved the 'detour' idea!

Good to see my simpatico, OPPO, so soon again. Got it mnemonicized at number 1108b on my list. Ironically, its peg/hook is 'puzzle' (that, aptly by coincidence).

Big fan of the GUTHRIEs.

Got my umpteenth COVID JAB Fri.

Scariest answer: XBOX KINECTS. Thank goodness for fair crosses! :)

Fun adventure, but time to BOUNCE. Til tm. 😊
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Lewis 7:50 AM  

This never felt rote; I was fully into it from start to finish, and much of the reason was the care Adam put into his cluing. Answers that lent themselves to wordplay clues got them. Answers that didn’t were given vague or misdirect clues, something to get the brain involved. There was hardly a pat clue/answer in the bunch.

As a result, I was on high alert, in the best way – fully hooked.

I loved the scintillating clues like [Cells are covered in it, in brief] for BIO, and [Related thing] for tale. But I was also enamored by the subtle feints, such as [Lead-in to delivery], where “lead-in” in a crossword clue often means “prefix”, and so my brain was off searching for prefixes to “delivery”, whereas in reality, in this clue, “lead-in” meant “an event that happens before”. This is care in cluing.

After solving, I had to wow at the construction chops behind this puzzle. Making the “detours” actual things you may detour on, like DRIVE or STREET, was an elegant touch, and added a deep level of construction difficulty. Then there was dealing with theme answer pairs that abut and having them smoothly crossed. Getting all this to work – highly impressive.

ASHE and OPEN seemed timely answers for certain sports fans.

Adam, your puzzle captivated, charmed, and impressed me. I am very grateful for your talent and hard work. Thank you for a top-tier Sunday!

Son Volt 8:04 AM  

Rex and @JoeD nailed it - the construction chops are clearly evident but a BORE to solve. I don’t think I hesitated once filling in this huge grid - the detours were well presented in the app and the trick was apparent from the start with BROADWAY HIT.

New ORDER

There was some nice fill - BIRDS OF PREY, HODGE PODGE, SO YEAH are all top notch. Rex highlights the unfortunate ones. We even get old school crossword royalty AUREATE.

Tough to kill this one because of the elegance of the build - but a flat solve.

Sarah Lee GUTHRIE

ncmathsadist 8:04 AM  

RATEDM is long gone for movies. It waa around when I was a kid back in th '60s. It's been PG as long as I can remember. Video games? I don't care.

Kent 8:25 AM  

I rarely jump ahead in puzzles but when I got the first themer I checked out the others and got the next two without any crosses (thought of E STREET BAND on the last one but didn’t bother to see if it fit, I guess because I didn’t trust the literal “street” Rex noted). So yeah, easy and maybe not too surprising or twisty, but I enjoyed the journey. My time was near record for Sunday, but some of the fill was pretty tricky. Had to resort to guesswork for the last square, the BIO/KINECTS cross, and didn’t understand BIO until I came here.

SouthsideJohnny 8:32 AM  

I usually don’t pay attention to the theme if I can avoid it, but this one was just handed to us (and the answers areeasy to discern) so I actually enjoyed it for a change. I also learned what ANOMIA and AUREATE mean - they both seem a little on the esoteric side, but ok.

Fortunately, the grid was Wednesday-easy in a lot of spots, so some of the trivia questions like XBOX games (or controllers or whatever that thing is) and the now compulsory “try too hard to be hip” BADASSERY can be forgiven. Although, stylistically I think they missed an opportunity with EMU EGGS - it’s kind of a neat entry, but hardly a gimmie, so why clue the crossing GHOSTS as a trivia question when there are so many other possibilities? I know IBSEN is famous from CrossWorld, but that one seemed like piling on.

Stuff like YEESH and OH MAMA is having a moment in the sun - hopefully they won’t overstay their welcome.


Phillyrad1999 8:44 AM  

The idea of the theme was cool but thought it would be moire challenging just looking at the empty grid and the title. Appreciated the H’ommage to Arthur ASHE stadium and one of my favorite sporting events of the year. BADASSERY its a think I guess. But between coaching and having two kids in their late teens I try to be in tune. I watch videos with my kids, they share constantly. Never heard of it. The one thing I liked about seeing XBOXKINECTS was that there are people smarted than I am who are figuring out how to use it to assess patients with neuromuscular disorders such as Parkinson’s ets. And that is pretty cool.

Old Jock 8:45 AM  

In sports all my life, NEVER heard “evener”

Weezie 8:46 AM  

While solving this, I thought to myself “oh no, am I missing something? Am I gonna get to the blog and something super fun about this puzzle will have gone over my head?” So it was nice to arrive here and see that Rex and a good chunk of the commentariat agree with me.

Excellent, impressive feat of construction, not always so fun to solve, with some of that try-hard fill that Rex mentioned. BADASSERY didn’t bother me though I wish it did; seeing the word spelled out made me think perhaps I should ban it from my vocabulary. I did like the cluing for BIRDSOFPREY, and it was good to learn ANOMIA and some of the other trivia offered in the clues. MINITACO was bad, but today I learned the word AUREATE so that canceled it out for me.

Basically, coulda been a bit more sparkly, but the construction was impressive, and it coulda been a whole lot worse. I’ll take it!

kitshef 9:09 AM  

Read the clue for 66D and thought “please don’t be SNEAKS … please don’t be SNEAKS”. And it big fat was.

Add that to the abundance of hated colloquial equivalency clues (SO YEAH, UGH, OH MAMA, BEGONE, I VOTE NO), and weird slang like NANS and the weak final themer, where STREET has the exact meaning in the tricky clue as in the basic clue, and the poor clue for birds of prey.

Very simply, this puzzle was not for me.

On the plus side, it was a bit harder than a typical Sunday, and has a clever theme, but that wasn’t enough.

Rob Puentes 9:12 AM  

Could be the constructor was going for a traffic safety theme. 68D is known as the Father of Traffic Safety and AFAIK is the only time “Eno” as clued to him. More often than not, it’s ambient musician Brian (https://www.xwordinfo.com/Finder?word=ENO).

andrew 9:14 AM  

Found this challenging and the cleverness of the construction praiseworthy.

Two Google searches for RIAN and KVASS but the rest legit. Thought having NANS, DADA and OHMAMA, then insisting on NOKIDS for the RATEDM Union Meeting was a nice touch.

Never heard of ANOMIA but mine is becoming more pronounced by the day (though I’ll most likely forget it by tomorrow).

Thought of Mac from It’s Always Sunny with BADASSERY and Susie yelling at Larry David to BEGONE. Who says TV isn’t educational?

Fun Sunday!

Nancy 9:19 AM  

I prepared for battle with a tiger, but the puzzle was a pussy-cat.

You know how confusing and convoluted detours can be. So I took immediate evasive action. Wherever there was an orange line or a gray line, I skipped those two letters in filling in the Downs. In the NE corner, I wrote in BI--S (4D), GN--ED (5D), AL--R (6D), MA--S (7D). And as far as the Acrosses were concerned, I filled in only the non-themer rows.

Imagine my surprise when the Downs turned out to be exactly what and where I expected them to be -- nothing reversed or smooshed together. Whew! Such a relief!

But at this point, all I needed was a "road"-type word in the gray spaces, and they all came in by themselves: ROADWAY, DRIVE, PATH, LANE and STREET. I didn't even have to read the 2nd half of the theme clues.

It's a very clever bit of construction though. Should I complain that I didn't have to suffer the way I expected to suffer? Nah, don't think I will. Easy but enjoyable. The best detour in it is the BOB CRATCHIT/BROADWAY HIT one.

Gary Jugert 9:50 AM  

So close ... XBox, thy spelling of KINECT DOTH me wrong.

Uniclues:

1 Toasting the devil.
2 Aeries.
3 ... and thank god they're not QVC.
4 Result of seeing your childless in-laws jetting off to Bora Bora.

1 BOB CRATCHIT BADASSERY
2 BIRDS OF PREY HAMLETS
3 VALUE HGTV PIXELS...
4 "NO KIDS" ENVY SPRINGS (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: He Googled her. SUITOR BONED UP.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

pabloinnh 9:51 AM  

Up against a deadline this morning, had to get the truck to the garden center so we could get a load of mulch on a garden in front of the thrift store that my wife and I have renovated before the store opened, so went through this as fast as I could and missed the "detour" aspect entirely, but still had everything filled in. Except the KVASS KINNECTS thing, which is hardly intuitive. So the puzzle was a lot more clever and impressive than I am this morning, and I missed the trick that would have made it so great.

And of course, I got to the garden center, which opens an hour later on Sunday. Of course.

Very nice Sunday indeed, AW. Absolutely Wish I had paid closer attention, and well done you. Thanks for a lot of fun, and I should have had more. It's my own fault, darn it, to quote the protagonist of "Candy".

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:52 AM  

One quibble about a clue. The term "NGO" was coined by the UN and generally refers to organizations that perform a fundamental national or international mission like disaster relief, healthcare provision, education, or some other social or socioeconomic service, like the Red Cross or Doctors Without Borders. The term is generally not used in the US to refer to nonprofit organizations that pursue a US-specific advocacy mission. I don't think anyone in the nonprofit sector in the US would refer to the ACLU or the NAACP as an NGO; nor, for that matter, would they use that term to refer to any advocacy organization, arts organization, or any other kind of exclusively domestically focused nonprofit organization. (But I knew 119A was NGO the second I read the clue; just sayin'.)

Anonymous 9:58 AM  

Hated this puzzle . Dull, boring.
Badassery , really!

RooMonster 10:05 AM  

Hey All !
Very enjoyable theme. When I first started, I thought the crossed out/ yellow slashed squares would be left blank, so for 2D had OW_L, happy to have it as OWL with the yellow slashed squares empty. I was quickly shown that wouldn't be the case.

Did think this might've been better as a Daily puz, like a Thursday, maybe. Just my opine.

Liked that each Detour was an actual word, plus bonus they were all types of Driving surfaces, to continue on your way around the blockades. Nice tieing in.

I'm sure @M&A will like the Jaws, while whoever complained YesterComments (I can't seem to find it) about the 4 Jaws will hate today's 6 Jaws!

ANOMIA had me at an 'Inability to recall the name...' of it. 😁 We got MAMA crossing DADA. ELAYNE spelled with a Y. Thankfully, the Down wasn't ambiguous. Took me a minute to remember OPPO. Silly brain, it was only discussed as infinitum the other day.

Emails BOUNCE? I know checks and balls do, but emails?

The yellow slashed squares were OBCRATC, ORDER, UEGG, MSPE, LASTIC. Make a theme out of that! Har.

Some nice fill around some hairy spots. Overall good SunPuz.

@pablo
LOLed at your past few posts! Too bad ASS is kicking, we'll, both out ASSes! Two today, BADASSERY, MASS.

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Dr.A 10:20 AM  

You always make me laugh. Today it was the MINITACO commentary. Totally had to look up XBOXKINECTS which annoyed me because we have so many game consoles in this house I feel like I should be able to get any gaming clue.

Phil W 10:38 AM  

My lack of video game playing, combined with my lack of fermented Russian beverage drinking, caused some grief in trying to finish this puzzle. Other than that, the theme was quickly obvious and the only annoyances were things like “badassery” and “so yeah”. “Bio” was a serious bit of a stretch, too.

Weezie 10:49 AM  

Yep, had this same thought, as someone who works at a non-profit that has made grants to hundreds of other non-profits. While they might be *technically* NGO’s, it’s not what we call them. Non-profit is definitely the most common term, followed by not-for-profit, followed by 501(c)3 (the non-profit tax code). Agree that clue would have been stronger if they used something like DWB or OxFam or the Red Cross.

egsforbreakfast 11:35 AM  

Talk about serendipity. I was playing on my XBOXKINECT, drinking KVASS and eating MINITACOs when I decided to detour to the puzzle!

If the CTEAM brings their BGAME, they’ll get BURIED.

A dyslexic person with an inability to recall everyday things has AMONIA.

A “Wowza!” from Sandra Oh’s mother is, I suppose, an OHMAMA OHMAMA!

I thought the puzzle was clever and enjoyable, but so easy that I can’t really call it a detour de force. Thanks, Adam Wagner.

Adam12 11:41 AM  

Really PO’ed about the Natick at VOCAB/KVASS. My bad for not knowing KVASS but VOCAB is not one complete word let alone multiple word(s) as it was clued. Cost me the music and to start Sunday on a sour note.

Wanderlust 11:45 AM  

I was all set to go on a Natick rant about crossing an obscure inventor with a Hebrew word, but when I saw the right answer I had a “Doh!” moment. I put in BRAzIL, not noticing that the Portuguese was directing me to the way they spell the country there. That gave me the crossing of zHAL-M and EN-. I put O first but got no happy music, so tried every vowel. Still nothing. Came here to look at Rex’s grid and saw that the error was not in the vowel. My bad. But still, do I really need to know two ENOs? The composer is enough.

I agree with Rex that this was a bit of a letdown, and STREET was inconsistent. I didn’t even notice that all the detours were synonyms for roads, so that made it a little better in retrospect. But no long answers and not much in the way of clever cluing hurt it. I do like how EMUEGGS (which I guessed right away - I didn’t think it was likely to be Sheilas) looks in the grid.

BAR betS before BAR TABS. Maybe bets over LIAR’S DICE, which I have played many times.

I don’t think any puzzle constructor will ever satisfy Rex on the balance between fusty oldsterisms and current slang.

Anonymous 11:47 AM  

No wordplay required to solve this puzzle. Just clever construction.

puzzlehoarder 12:01 PM  

Everything about this puzzle was a big no. The constructors background and the sight of banded squares over the gray ones told me that I was going to hate this solve and I did. However Sundays are where I get my fill of crossword dreck that I miss by skipping the early week puzzles.

As for that dreck the puzzle did not disappoint. OPPO and IDK are both ick. EVENER? Who says that? I've never seen this KINECTS term and I took awhile to remember KVASS so many sections were hard to fill but in a way I didn't enjoy.

The strangest thing was when I finished and finally had a chance to pay attention to the theme I suddenly enjoyed it. I attribute this to some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

The STREET just being STREET issue is the least of the themes inconsistencies. That ORDER is is a word and the other banded entries are random letter strings is much worse. It's not ELASTICBAND it's ELASTICwaistBAND and FILLANEED is as green paint as IVOTENO. That last one is how I felt about this puzzle while solving and then I wind up thinking the theme is clever YEESH. Or is that sheesh?

yd pg -2, SB complaint: If you put out an SB on a Saturday that could include the word ANOMIA but doesn't, why would you have the next days crossword puzzle include it? Would a little consistency kill the games editors?

Carola 12:07 PM  

I thought it was a stellar Sunday - wonderful theme construction and fun for me to figure out. For a while, density ruled: I thought the detours were merely connecting the unshaded squares, making the theater success, for example, a B-HIT. Didn't really make sense, but I pressed on to the EMU EGGS and those that feel your pain, namely EM...S, the emergency medical service! Only at FILM SPEED did I see that I needed the letters in LANE for the second part of the clue to make sense. After that, the E STREET and ELASTIC BANDs were a snap. But I still had to work on the missing TSA and computer issues to deal with, and understanding the theme really helped me there.

Favorite: the pairing of EMU EGGS with EMPATHS. And...I wonder if BOB CRATCHIT et.al. have been in a BROADWAY HIT - I think our local theater company survives entirely on sales of "A Christmas Carol."

Anonymous 12:23 PM  

I wish!

Anonymous 12:26 PM  

I was lucky to get the first them clue early and quickly. That revealed the puzzle’s puzzle. Fun and quick to solve.

Canon Chasuble 12:39 PM  

ANY puzzle that has the answer for 68d clued differently from the last 50,000 times it has appeared in the Times has GOT to be acclaimed as a winner. Thanks, Adam!!

SouthsideJohnny 12:59 PM  

Today’s WaPo/LAT and the NYT puzzles share an identical (PPP) answer - both downs. Very similar but not identical clues. It’s the second time in recent memory - not sure how frequently that occurs, probably more than I would guess though.

Greendot 1:19 PM  

Sooo….. up until now I have ALWAYS had a post-it note to cover Sunday’s Theme so the puzzle wasn’t too easy. Either on paper or in the NYT Games app on my iPad.
But……I had to update last week to get to the puzzle and today I noticed the Theme title no longer shows up above the puzzle! No more sticky note!!!
Did anyone else ever cover up the theme??

burtonkd 1:33 PM  

INRE the ChatGPT or AI-created puzzle, I found that I still had a browser window opened to this April 9th puzzle and discussion from Ross Trudeau:

https://rosswordpuzzles.com/2023/04/09/lonely-planet/

As for today, the construction was interesting and there was lots of good wordplay clueing - as Lewis pointed out. Only problem was in the SE: KVASS made me KVELL, but in hindsight VOCAB had an excellent clue with a plural/singular misdirect.

My first guess of RATEDx might have been too graphic for the clue. RATEDM is not for movies, but then again, movies weren't specified in the clue. TV & Video Games it is!

Anonymous 1:39 PM  

I enjoyed GNAWED crossing with its homophone NOD.

Colin 1:53 PM  

I also thought this construction was really cool.

A few head-scratchers for me:
- BADASSERY was, well... not so bad ass. Just doesn't seem like a real word. You can't just add -ery to anything to get the noun form.
- I had "OLE" then "OHO" then finally "AHA" when none of the crosses worked.
- I had to read Rex's explanation for BIO.

Gotta agree with Mike in Bed Stuy and Weezies about NGOS.

The scattered hang-ups made this a medium solve for me. Kudos to Adam for this ingenious puzzle!

Masked and Anonymous 1:55 PM  

yep. This rodeo sure had its easy spots and hard spots, at our house. Most of the hard spots were no-know names. Did enjoy the theme, even tho it didn't provide the humor that generally helps m&e out with a SunPuz-sized solvequest.

It's a tie, sports fans! 6 U's and 6 Jaws of Themelessness [aka Cheater Squares, on the @RP blog].

staff weeject pick: ENO. Like some commentors have pointed out -- a whole new dude takin over the ENO reins, today. Still say {One up??} would be a primo clue option, tho.

a few faves: The BADASSERY of KVASS. OHMAMA/DADA. That the puz somehow managed to have symmetric(al) themer entries … outstandin way to direct traffic! LIARSDICE [had POKERDICE, for way too long … lost precious nanoseconds].

Thanx for the clever SunPuz theme, Mr. Wagner dude. Had to stare at that first detour quite a while, before the ahar moment hit m&e like a Broadway dickens of a taxicab.

Masked & Anonymo6Us

back to yer artificial, non-intelligent runtz:
**gruntz**

SharonAK 1:58 PM  

Easy?? Wow! I thought this was the hardest Sunday in a long time. So many things I'd never heard of and some fairly tricky (to me) misleads.
I liked the theme. Did NOT find them easy. Cannot figure out what Rex means about theE Street answer not working with the others. In "fill a need" the word "lane" is definitely hidden in the longer answer. Hardly so with roadway and certainly not with usb DRIVE.

R 2:20 PM  

I really enjoyed the bottom of the puzzle. The E Street Band unlocked everything for me and I liked the cluing. The rest went in up top on a second pass and I felt great until falling on my face in the middle, when I ignored the detour sign and tried to reverse Emu Eeggs and Empaths. Rite Aid got me straightened out.

Joe Dipinto 2:28 PM  

A lot of folks are complaining about the E STREET BAND themer – fair enough, but to me the one that sticks out like a sore thumb is FILL A NEED. Every other theme answer is a noun or noun phrase, i.e. a *thing* that stands alone by itself. FILL A NEED is a partial verb phrase. It totally clashes.

Signed,
E. Mueggs

jb129 2:44 PM  

For some reason it was harder to do on paper than on-line - ???

TAB2TAB 3:08 PM  

Somewhat similar experience to Rex, the concept of the theme was very simple to figure out, the concept of the using the second clue as a 'bypass' for the crossed out clue was obvious even before trying to fill it in. I was thinking 'that can't be the extent of it' so it was nice when the bypass actually was a roadway. However the extent of the PPP fill was painful, and even when the answer wasn't PPP (GHOSTS), the clue "Henrik Ibsen" turned it back into a trivia contest.

Anonymous 3:30 PM  

Easy-medium? You must be kidding. Hard as hell and no fun. I should have done a detour around this one.

Anonymous 3:42 PM  


My "I wish" (at 12:23PM) was a response to:
"Is Homeland Security concerned with USBORDERS? Is anyone?"
In case you were wondering.

Anonymous 3:57 PM  

Thanks for the clip with the Boss. He still leaves me weak in the knees.

Anonymous 3:59 PM  

I prefer this remarkable young woman’s detours… https://youtu.be/2TYYt0F76Gk?feature=shared

Anonymous 4:09 PM  

Rated M is a video game rating.

Anonymous 4:17 PM  

I find my difficulty with a puzzle is almost always opposite of Rex. This one was a difficult solve for me — over an hour for me to solve and about 20 minutes longer than my average. The theme wasn’t particularly difficult but I found the fill clues weirdly hard. I kept talking myself out of BMW. And NANS?! I had NANA for forever.

Melissa Fairchild 5:33 PM  

Mengele, nicknamed “Angel of Death” would’ve been a good clue for JOSEF. Unfortunately, thanks to scolds like RP, who freak out when bad people are crossword clues/answers, we get the younger brother of Johann Strauss II. Oh well, first world problems and all.

Alice Pollard 5:43 PM  

big Bruce fan here. seen him almost 90 times in concert. ESTREETBAND has been in the puzzle a few times

Bob Mills 5:47 PM  

The New York Times and Rex Parker have together accomplished something I never would have believed...they've provided a crossword puzzle that I completed without understanding anything about the theme...NOT EVEN AFTER IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

Anonymous 6:33 PM  

For a while I thought they were being clever and crossing EILEEN with Eileen (had no idea who Boosler was), so that stuck for a while. Also had argON instead of XENON for “Greek word for foreigner,” thinking it had something to do with Jason and the Argonauts. But overall a fun, pleasant experience.

Anonymous 7:07 PM  

So clever! You’re being a grump, Rex.

Anonymous 7:08 PM  

I’m surprised at how many people on here haven’t heard BADASSERY as a word. Maybe it’s because I work in a middle school, or maybe I’m young-ish myself (40? Is that young at all anymore?), but that’s a pretty common word to me. Filled it in early.

dgd 7:12 PM  

I think we would be puzzled if grandma and mom were called weird slang in England since they say nan and mum respectively.
Nan is more British than American though I bet some Americans use it. The mum in the clue is the hint about British usage.
Perhaps our definitions of slang, weird or otherwise, differ?

Anonymous 7:24 PM  

I don’t think bio was a stretch. The clue is a misdirection. Bio short for biology class which covers cells (in its syllabus).
I thought it was a good tricky clue.

stephanie 9:29 PM  

the kinect isn't even current. it was discontinued six years ago, so. never heard anybody say "sneaks" for shoes [i knew it, just never heard anyone actually use this word irl], i doubt anyone is still talking about "badassery", and "oh mama" is something i associate with george's dad on seinfeld. SO YEAH, kind of funny to see what rex felt was supposed to be "fresh and colloquial."

i liked the theme (didn't even see that the detours were all "roads" until the end so that reveal was cute and fun for me) but the overall puzzle was...idk. some parts wooshy, other parts "i guess" and "if you say so" or "ugh i don't care anymore" territory. a few things were oddly familiar - got OPPO straight off thanks to That Puzzle the other day and thought "not today, NYT! not today." i also just googled gregor SAMSA two days ago having never heard of him, when a cartoonist i subscribe to on substack wrote about her samsa cartoon in the new yorker. additionally, knew LIARS DICE because i just googled liar's poker last week after it showed up in a new episode of billions i was watching. a real interesting string of coincidences for me today, which was pretty cool.

Anonymous 10:45 PM  

Xbox Kinect is already 10 years old and barely supported. I’d hardly call it “fresh”. And they’re “USB ports” on the computer. uSB drives are what plug into them.

Giz 11:40 PM  

Kitshef, thanks for "colloquial equivalencies." I HATE HATE HATE them, but didn't have a succinct term for them. Now I do. I wonder how many others loathe them

Anonymous 12:14 AM  

It's a soccer/football usage.

bertoray 7:16 PM  

Thanks for sharing that BBC podcast with Robyn Weintraub. It was swell 😍

spacecraft 10:12 AM  

I balked at those weird shaded areas, wondering what the heck this guy wants me to do. But fortunately, the NW played out pretty obviously, and I had the trick. Well, most of it. I accepted BROADWAY by itself for the clue, and only later, at about the third "detour," saw that it had to finish on the original line. That's when I noticed that the last three letters of CRATCHIT was HIT, which I thought was particularly clever.

The rest of the themers, not so much. And SOYEAH, the STREET of ESTREETBAND just sat there. It's like ADAM (yep, he signed his work) had a great idea but then tried too hard to make a theme out of it.

Some interesting colloquial fill, but I did notice BADASSERY/KVASS. And yet another ETAIL. Par.

Wordle eagle.

Burma Shave 2:16 PM  

LIARS VALUE TALE

BEGONE, GO SLIP'N'SLIDE
ONCE with EILEEN, that SLYFOX,
NO BARBETS ON the side,
OPEN the X RATED BOX.

--- ELAYNE LANE-CAINE

rondo 2:48 PM  

Pretty good constructioneering to get those ROADWAYs in like that. Noticed: INLATE INTOTAL; IVOTENO NOKIDS. SOYEAH for the FANNINGs.
Wordle eagle; 8 under for the last 5.

Anonymous 3:59 PM  

I made this puzzle much harder than it actually was. At first, I skipped all the clues that had the barricades, and their detours, just to be on the safe side. Once I started doing those clues, the puzzle indeed got a lot easier.
I believe Rex suffers from three bears syndrome. Some puzzles are too hot(young), some puzzles are too cold(old), and every once in a great while the puzzles are just right.
On a side note: Rex, you need to actually go into a grocery store. I laugh at all the things you don't know that exist. Today it was mini tacos, and recently Oreo Cones. I have never bought either product, but I see them in the frozen section all the time. My favorite, though, is Tate's cookies. I just couldn't believe you didn't know they existed, since they are a NEW YORK bakery product. I knew them, and I live in Illinois.
Side side note: I prefer my chocolate chip cookies chewy, not crispy. Since that puzzle, though, they have expanded their product line vastly.

Diana, LIW 5:48 PM  

For a horribly name-infested puzzle with a strange "trick," I was able to get the trick. And that helped!

But not enough for a complete finish.

Did I mention there were too many unknown names? Especially that XBOX - I have sooooo little techie knowledge.

99% - I win

Diana, LIW

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