Phallic object worshiped as a symbol of Shiva / SAT 6-3-23 / Enthusiastic approval in a text / Byzantine emperor known as "Rhinotmetos" ("the slit-nosed") / Part of the Tuscan Archipelago / One of the so-called eight limbs of yoga / City in northeast France home of the country's oldest church

Saturday, June 3, 2023

Constructor: John Westwig

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: SOMETHING / NOTHING / ANYTHING — [shrug] it's ... something, alright

Word of the Day: LINGAM (28D: Phallic object worshiped as a symbol of Shiva) —
lingam (Sanskritलिङ्ग IASTliṅga, lit. "sign, symbol or mark"), sometimes referred to as linga or Shiva linga, is an abstract or aniconic representation of the Hindu god Shiva in Shaivism. It is typically the primary murti or devotional image in Hindu temples dedicated to Shiva, also found in smaller shrines, or as self-manifested natural objects. It is often represented within a disc-shaped platform, the yoni – its feminine counterpart,consisting of a flat element, horizontal compared to the vertical lingam, and designed to allow liquid offerings to drain away for collection. Together, they symbolize the merging of microcosmos and macrocosmos, the divine eternal process of creation and regeneration, and the union of the feminine and the masculine that recreates all of existence. (wikipedia)
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Well, the best part of this is certainly the middle, and I thought that *before* I ever noticed the SOMETHING ANYTHING NOTHING ... thing. It just felt smooth, so I liked it. The one thing I noticed about that section that seemed like a bit of a cheat (i.e. a gimmick to make the Down crosses easier to manage) was the -ING stack. "Really going all in on those -INGs there, yeesh." It was only after I'd completely finished the puzzle that I noticed there was a method to the madness. The discovery was far more a disappointed "oh" than an elated "aha." Do a theme or don't do a theme! This in-between stuff is meh. But as I say, I'm not too mad, because that stack *was* the best thing in the puzzle, so ... whatever works, I guess. The NW and SE corner were fine but not terribly remarkable (SE somewhat better than NW), and the other corners just didn't work well for me, despite having those showy long answers. In fact, it's the showy long answers that fell flat. NEO NOIR FILM feels awful in my mouth. I wanted that answer to stop at NEO-NOIR, which is commonly used as a noun on its own (a substantive, or nominalized, adjective, i.e. an adjective that stands alone as a noun). NEO-NOIR FILM just feels redundant. It's not that the phrase doesn't make sense, it's just ... I'd say NEO-NOIR (alone) or NEO-NOIR MOVIE before I'd say NEO-NOIR FILM. You'd only call "The Usual Suspects" a NEO-NOIR FILM if you didn't know it was a film in the first place. Otherwise, it's a NEO-NOIR. It's the redundancy that's irking me, but I just taught a whole class on Noir (1940-80), so my ear may be way too finely tuned, I'll admit. But ARMY TRAINEE doesn't improve the section. It's fine, but it screams "my wordlist told me to do this." Plus, I already had to linger on a military answer by that point (NCO), and I'd had enough. 


As for JUSTINIAN II, LOL wow that is a deep cut (12D: Byzantine emperor known as "Rhinotmetos" ("the slit-nosed")). I didn't love it, but I was super proud of myself for remembering that that was a name and writing it in with just the -ANII in place. I felt like I was taking a wild leap there, but I immediately crossed the "J" with SAJAK and knew my guess was right. ASSUMED NAME is fine, OK. I think the real disappointment of the grid was the marquee Down answer: PUZZLING PROBLEM (8D: Stumper). Again, like NEO-NOIR FILM, something about it felt redundant and off. I had PUZZL- and was not sure where it was going. Then PUZZLING ... and still no idea. When I finally got PROBLEM, the feeling was, Again, more "oh" than "aha." Anticlimactic. A letdown. If it weren't PUZZLING, would it even be a PROBLEM? Aren't non-puzzling problems ... not problems at all? I just don't like it. I also don't believe H-WORD (35D: "Hell," euphemistically). You need to be hyperspecific about what kind of demonstratively prudish culture you're dealing with here, because the very fact that the puzzle could put "Hell" in the clue tells you that almost no one thinks "Hell" needs to be bowdlerized. I imagine cluing FWORD in such a straightforward way. You can't. H-WORD, smaitch-word. I got it easily enough, but boo. 


Easy puzzle overall, with nearly all of my struggle coming with NCO / DAX (in the NW) and LINGAM (a thing I kinda sorta knew, but couldn't spell, especially that second vowel—I wanted "U" I think). If you put a specific mil. rank in your clue I expect a specific rank as the answer, but NCO ... both corporals and sergeants are NCOs. I always thought of NCO as a category. [One below a lieut.] may be on some level accurate, but bah. With the "C" in place from EXCALIBUR, NCO was the only thing I could think of, but I was sure it was wrong. Not specific enough. But then it was right. Oh well. As for DAX Shepard, I wanted him to be SAM, and when he wasn't ... well, let's just say I was lucky "X" was the only thing that worked in DEO-IDIZE, because I kind of thought DAX was DAZ. Turns out there are no DAZzes of note, except DAZ Cameron, a former Detroit Tiger outfielder you've probably never heard of. I thought DAZ was the name of a star NFL quarterback, but turns out I was thinking of DAK Prescott (Cowboys), whose name you weirdly never see, given how good he is—a two-time Pro Bowler, and *currently* famous. Despite not caring about football any more, I think I'd rather see DAK clued as [2x N.F.L. Pro Bowl-er Prescott] than as an abbr. for DAKota, which is what the NYTXW has been relying on for its DAK clues all these years. (Thinking about this is way more fun than thinking about DAX Shepard, whom I don't really know. No wait, isn't he ... Kristen Bell's husband? Is that right? Yes. Phew. My memory still has some battery power left).


I see what the puzzle was trying to do here with the whole "mini-theme" thing, and it's not Not cute, but ... it may in fact be too cute, for me, for a Saturday, when all I want is grueling beauty, themes be damned. I think my favorite answer of the day was actually a little six-letter critter: "OMG YES!"  (25D: Enthusiastic approval in a text). It's current and (to my ear and experience) pitch perfect. I would, in fact, text that. Wish "OMG YES!" was how I felt about the puzzle as a whole, but you get what you get. This wasn't bad, by any means. See you tomorrow (unless you scorn Sundays, in which case see you whenever).

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. 33D: Middle of to-day is THIS because that’s where THIS goes in the phrase “to THIS day…”

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87 comments:

Adam12 6:10 AM  

Agree with Rex in regard to the solve but “easy” was not reflective of my experience for sure. Disappointing to have my slog trivialized. Anyway, can someone please explain the clue for THIS (middle of to-day), Thank you.

Anonymous 6:27 AM  

To this day

Anonymous 6:28 AM  

To this day: Up until now

Son Volt 6:40 AM  

Not the PUZZLING PROBLEM Ben Zimmer’s Stumper is today but the tri-stack spanners really do shine. Loved the clue for CIDER.

CACTUS

frankbirthdaycake 6:49 AM  

One below Lieut. is a vague and poorly conceived clue. One (i.e., a person) below a Lieut. could be junior enlisted and not an NCO. One rank below Lieut. neglects warrant officers, although that might be the subject of some debate. The constructor could have fixed this by replacing “One” with “Leader.” Otherwise, good puzzle.

Anonymous 6:53 AM  

I live in VT where cider is a big deal, so I wasn’t tricked by the “Apple press” clue. And I thought the whole puzzling puzzle was brilliant.

Lewis 7:09 AM  

The star of this grid, IMO, is that gorgeous center stack, conversational and involving, and beautifully crossed (no easy task with a triple-stack). Just behind is the BLOW A FUSE / TELEPORTS / SMARTEN UP trio in the SE, all answers with buzz, and again, beautifully crossed.

On top of that, John sparked the grid with 10 NYT answer debuts, giving it a perky fresh feel, my two favorites being ANYTHING YOU WANT and OMG YES, lovely additions to the oeuvre.

Do you know how hard it is to pull a grid like this off? Not just keeping the junk out of a 68-worder, but look at what’s been put in! Lovely words and phrases we know but don’t see every day, like EXCALIBER and ASSUMED NAME, film and song titles that trip off reactions (in my case, sweet memories), out-of-wheelhouse answers (at least for me) whose uncovering is feel-good earned, flora and fauna, history, religion – the world in a box.

A work of beauty on top of being fun and satisfying to simply fill in. A huge plus to lift me into my day. Thank you, John. I loved this!

Anonymous 7:28 AM  

Been about 50 years since Todd Rundgren released “Something Anything”, for those of you old enough to remember

Conrad 7:30 AM  


GAbbY before GASSY at 18A and (briefly) yesYES at 25D, laW before NEW for the bookstore section at 30A.

WOEs included the Shepard guy at 4D, the slit-nosed guy at 12D, LOA (24A) as clued, LINGAM at 28D and Ms. Sink at 44A.

Easy-Medium for a Saturday.

Wanderlust 7:31 AM  

The NW and SE came very easily for me, and the rest was a PUZZLING PROBLEM. I liked that long answer and disagree with Rex that it’s redundant. Many problems are not puzzling. The fact that our planet is heating up to becoming a living Hell (H-WORD to my late grandmother) is a problem but it’s not at all puzzling. We know exactly why it’s happening.

I came at PUZZLING PROBLEM from both ends. I put in PUZZLe pretty early, and then got PROBLEM, wondering what those middle two letters could be. Fixed the e to ING.

I somehow knew LINGAM (read into that what you will) and then got NOTHING PERSONAL off the GPE, which broke the logjam. I liked the SOMETHING, ANYTHING, NOTHING mini-theme but I really would have loved it if they’d found a way to get everything in there.

Favorite clues were “Apple press release” for CIDER and “certain cell provider” for CAPTOR.

I liked JUSTINIAN II simply for learning that any emperor was called “the slit-nosed” - though probably not to his face. I thought that would be Rex’s word of the day, and I will look him up after posting.

It took me a while to puzzle out the THIS clue but I did eventually get it. But I’m still not sure I get “They’re copied for partners” for KEYS. I don’t think that means house keys for romantic partners. Answer keys? Musical keys?

Maryse Mitchell-Brody 7:33 AM  

Anyway, on to today’s puzzle. I found it breezy-for-a-Saturday, save for a real slog in the NE and center-east sections. I had GABBY instead of GASSY for way too long, which meant I didn’t catch JUSTINIAN II, and then I couldn’t remember RIMY and I’ve never watched Stranger Things or heard of SADIE Sink. All in all that meant I had a truly absurd amount of overwriting to get to the congrats message. It was all fair play, just my own brain to blame. I agree with the NCO nit, too.

Conversely, though, having been a religious studies major in college meant I dropped ASANA and LINGAM right in. Those two plus a few easier downs made for a very whooshy time with that gorgeous long center stack, so I can’t keep complaining for too long. In general, I really liked today’s puzzle, it felt like a different kind of Saturday offering than the standard fare somehow and I appreciated that.

Haven’t chimed in a few days as I’ve been hustling to get everything ready before my camping trip next week. Currently in Montreal, where I drove to grab my travel partner before we head back to my place today and head into the woods tomorrow. Current plan is to try and still do the crosswords because I’m feeling protective of my streak, but we shall see.

Anyway, I caught up with the blog and it’s commentary so figured I would belatedly weigh in on a few things. First, happy 70th, @egs! And, I was really touched by learning about the story behind the Thursday puzzle and what various folks shared in response. My maternal grandmother, paternal grandfather, and maternal uncle all passed from Parkinson’s, and another uncle is in the late stages. It’s a disease that has deeply affected my family and it’s so hard. Sending care to David and his family. And care to folks who shared about missing loved ones. It seems to me that no matter how old a parent might be, the loss would still be profound. May all of their memories be for blessings.

Anonymous 7:48 AM  

Those are exactly my WOEs as well.

Anonymous 7:50 AM  

While solving the middle stack I saw a THING dupe and was like "come on, right on top of each other?" then "ohhhhh." It's neat that the SOMETHING/ANYTHING/NOTHING stack gives favorable letter combinations for the Downs (except maybe -MYT-, ARMYTRAINEE looks like it was pretty much forced). With black squares in place, --ETH feels pretty constraining... besides DOETH, I can only think of TEETH and WYETH. NATICK x NCWYETH flashbacks!

When a Saturday hands me EXCALIBUR with the Mondayest of clues, I know I'm going to have an easy time. Finished it faster than yesterday (which was already easy for a Friday), probably my second fastest Saturday right behind the even easier one from a few weeks back. My only real stumbles were Lei for LOA and ANYTHINGYOUlike for WANT.

Yesterday I thought EVERESTBASECAMP running down the middle was green paint-ish, but it's definitely a thing. PUZZLINGPROBLEM on the other hand...

Wanderlust 7:52 AM  

I looked up JUSTINIAN II to find out why he was called “the slit-nosed.” According to Wikipedia, he was a despotic emperor who was overthrown and had his nose cut off so that he could never rule again. (Apparently, the maimed were not considered fit to rule.) But he did win the throne back, wearing a gold replacement nose! Better than his first one! But he was just as despotic in his second rule, and his own army turned on him and killed him. Wonder who got the nose.

Anonymous 7:55 AM  

Medium for a Saturday.

I penciled in RIMY and WETLY with no crosses and was astounded as the longer answers emerged and they proved right.

I agree with Rex’s critiques of the long downs - none really sizzled, though learning an emperor was called “Slit-nosed” was fun. But the long acrosses were good, and I really enjoyed the center stack.

pabloinnh 8:04 AM  

Fun trip to Whoosh City here. My only real unknowns were DAX, SADIE, and LINGAM and my first guesses were mostly spot on, except for SGT, which was easily changed to NCO.


Maybe I've been doing too many crosswords but I've just seen AMENS with virtually the same clue, and LINEA looked suspiciously familiar as well. And there's ESP again. At least it has a ? in the clue to indicate its dubious nature.

I wanted my "strangely quiet person" to have SOMETHINGTOSAY, but of course it didn't fit. I guess I have an optimistic view of quiet people.

Nice zippy Saturdecito, JW. Just Wish it had taken longer, as I was enjoying myself. Thanks for all the fun.

SouthsideJohnny 8:04 AM  

I went with LINGAM on faith and hoped for the best. Then I read the definition that Rex posted on his blog and still have no clue what the heck it’s referring to.

Agree with OFL that the clue for HWORD was a huge cop-out. Wish WS would have exercised some editorial discretion there, but at the end of the day it’s just a misdemeanor offense, and Will tolerates much worse.

Ok, to continue my attempt at self-education - from reading Rex, it’s apparent that NEO-NOIR is a “genre” but not a “sub-genre” as a movie could not be considered a FILM NOIR (i.e. “old”) and a NEO-NOIR (new film in the old “NOIR” style). However, SPACE OPERA is a “sub-genre” because apparently DUNE is both Science Fiction and something called a SPACE OPERA. And then there is Rex, who contends that something can be a NEO-NOIR movie, but not a NEO-NOIR FILM. OMG, it’s enough to make your hair hurt.

John H 8:06 AM  

Easy and enjoyable, with a tiny quibble: a USED bookstore might or might not have a NEW section, but a bookstore per se only has new books/

Dr.A 8:09 AM  

There were a lot of things i didn’t know but was able to parse them out so no look ups! Hardest part for me was the NW corner but somehow it often is.

Bob Mills 8:15 AM  

Never heard of a LINGAM, bur the crosses gave it to me. I had "raptor" instead of CAPTOR for a while, but "spikes of interest" could only suggest CACTUS.

Never finished a Saturday so quickly, so I guess it was easy. But I'm still congratulating myself.

bocamp 8:25 AM  

Thx, John; AMEN! 😊

Easy-med.

Overall, quite a smooth solve.

Loved the staggered THINGs in the grid-spanners!

Just had SADIE Sink a couple of days ago in another xword.

Big fan a EFILing.

Was a supporter of NADER's 'Public Citizen' back in the early '70s.

Wonderful Sat. adventure. Liked this one a lot! :)
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On to Ben Zimmer's Sat. Stumper. 🤞
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness & Freudenfreude to all 🙏

Anonymous 8:26 AM  

What the HWORD? Nobody says HWORD and I thought that Jeers for a team at an away game was an ABUSE-ive clue. Once I got SOMETHINGTOHIDE the other “themes” became pretty obvious.

Liveprof 8:38 AM  

@Wanderlust (7:52) I guess you could say he won by a nose.

Were there any other raised eyebrows (besides mine) over the clue/answer at 1D in Tuesday's New Yorker puzzle by Brooke Husic? (Spoiler alert if you plan to do that puzzle.)

The clue was "Come" and the answer had six letters so I wrote in ATTEND. I had to take that out when the last two letters were clearly SM, and then the first letter became O. You may have guessed by now the answer turned out to be orgasm. Did that cross or erase some sort of line or boundary? I hadn't seen that clue/answer in a puzzle before, although it just might have not reached me at the rock I live under.

kitshef 8:39 AM  

Either I don’t understand the clue for CACTUS, or it’s terrible.

Beautifully filled grid, with a ton of nice long answers and little bad glue.

Can’t wait to see someone’s uniclue for A BIT LINGAM BTS.

Everybody’s got SOMETHING TO HIDE Except for Me and My Monkey - what a bizarre lyric.

Anonymous 8:43 AM  

Lately I’ve been having an easier time with Saturdays than Fridays. Trying to figure out why! Really enjoyed the SOMETHING ANYTHING NOTHING stack this time around.

kitshef 8:50 AM  

@Wanderlust 7:31 - it DOES mean copying house or apartment keys for romantic partners.

Anonymous 8:50 AM  

I got it with crosses but it seems it was used just to complete the puzzle.

Anonymous 8:55 AM  

Thanks for doing all the research! A gold nose might replace a "grill" for rappers. (Maybe)

Gary Jugert 9:21 AM  

Holy cats that's a good puzzle. It's Saturday, so I had to research a couple of proper nouns SADIE to get started and DAX to finish, but the payoff with all those long answers all over the place was spectacular. I thought the theme was cute. Everyone in Byzantine history is named Justinian.

LINGAM went in from crosses, so I looked it up and I've now changed my mind about burial. Instead of having my box of ashes tossed without ceremony into an empty dumpster so I go out with a bang, I want a cozy crypt with a giant lingam fountain.

Uniclues:

1 Effort to become King of England by yanking and yanking.
2 Realize a 30-minute comedy would be better.
3 That trash compactor thing in Star Wars.
4 Where Rhinotmetos lives now.
5 Rhinotmetos to friends.

1 EXCALIBUR ABUSE
2 AXE NEONOIR FILM
3 CAPTOR SEWER
4 JUSTINIAN II URN
5 ASSUMED NAME STU

Anonymous 9:27 AM  

Adam12 - Same thought. Maybe it’s TOTHISDAY? Weak IMHO but that’s all I can come up with.

jberg 9:31 AM  

Whew, glad you all found it easy. Not me. I was totally stuck until I surrendered and looked up SADIE Sink (whom I should have known, I've seen her in puzzles before). Then it gradually came together.

Too big problems. First, the playwright SAM instead of the podcaster DAX. And when I figured out LANDSCAPE, I changed Sam to DAn, naturally. I did finally see that one couldn't DEOnIDIZE metal, though, so I got that.

Bigger problem: GAbbY. That gave me A-bUM at 13-D, so I assumed "Criminal" must be the name of a band, and started to fill in AlbUM jacket -- exceept that I couldn't imagine a three-letter bookstore section with a J in the middle. That one took a long time, working up from the bottom until I had ___EDNAME.

I noticed the slant-stacking THINGs about then, which helped with the rest of the solve.

My favorite thing in the puzzle was the clue for 40-A, since RIMY could be used to mean either "frost-covered" or "poetically."

@Liveprof, the NEW section in bookstores is for books that have been published very recently, for those who want to read the latest thing.

@Southside, see Pauline Kael for the distinction between "film" and "movie."

Fun fact: Koreans regard everyone with the same surname as related, and while there is no law about it, there is a mild taboo on marrying someone with the same name. Since more than 50% of people in South Korea are named KIM, it's becoming a bit of a problem.

Am I the only one who hesitated over EXCALIBUR because the clue said "sword in the stone" instead of "The sword in the stone?" I suspected a trick, wrongly.

Anonymous 9:32 AM  

See you tomorrow (unless you scorn Sundays, in which case see you in H-WORD).

RooMonster 9:40 AM  

Hey All !
I got a snicker once I saw the "descending THINGS" in the center stack. It was rather neat. SOMETHING, ANYTHING, NOTHING.
PUZZLING. Har.

Nice clean fill, which is tough to do with all the Longs criss-crossing hither and yon. Fun clue on TELEPORTS, "Shows up out of nowhere?"

SAJAK, had the first A, put in cArey, got the second A, changed it to SAgAt. I don't believe Bob Sagat hosted a game show. But, hey, it fit at the time!

Finished quick for me for a SatPuz, which is good, trying to protect what little brain cells are left!

Ere I saw ELBA!

When you BLOW A FUSE, do you say, "Aw, HWORD!"

Happy start of a NEW weekend.

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 9:40 AM  

Former NCO here. I don’t recommend telling a First Sergeant or Sergeant Major that he or she is “below” a lieutenant. You’ll find out very quickly who’s in charge. The military chain-of-command is a lot more nuanced than this clue wants it to be.

Anonymous 9:41 AM  

Fantastic album.

Carola 9:48 AM  

Medium. My way in was through SAJAK x JUSTINIAN II, which meant I needed to back into the long center Acrosses with just -IDE, -ANT, and -NAL to go on. "WANT" was pretty likely, meaning that the quiet person in the row above might have something like a wild "sIDE"; then the crossing euphemism for "Hell" would start with sW.... (I'd considered and rejected HIDE, because NOTHING starts with HW). Well, obviously, I needed to look for greener LANDSCAPES elsewhere. Favorite stack: the "analog" BLOW A FUSE over the who-knows-how-powered TELEPORTS.

Do-over: have what YOU WANT. No idea: DAX, SADIE. Can't fool me: CIDER. Totally flummoxed: CAPTOR. Had repressed: Ralph NADER.

Anonymous 9:54 AM  

Bookstores have newly arrived sections, so it seems plausible they could have a’New” section.

Liveprof 9:56 AM  

jberg -- I think you meant to respond to John H (8:06), no? (on the bookstore)

Gary Jugert 9:59 AM  

LAND'S CAPE: Cover of nightfall.
DE-OX-IDIZE: Sell the ox and clean the barn.
SAD IE: Anytime they follow a C.
AS ANA: Goes as de Armas for Halloween.
SLIM E: What one uses to fix a handwritten typo.
AB IT: Push the kitchen drawer closed with your belly.
AB ACK: Reaction when I take my shirt off.
SEW E.R.: Label department scrubs.

kitshef 10:06 AM  

@Roo Monster - I went with Bob SAget at first, remembering that he was the host of America's Funniest Home Videos which was kind of a game show (they gave out prizes).

Mary McCarty 10:13 AM  

@Southside Johnny: re NOIR: NOIR means “black” (as in “dark, mysterious, cynical”) not “new”, as I took your statement (could not be considered a FILM NOIR (i.e. “old”) and a NEO-NOIR (new film in the old “NOIR” style)
So in the genre of NOIR, you can have sub-genres of old dark films and new dark films, both types of NOIR, just as in the genre of Sci-Fi you can have sub-genres of SPACE OPERA, dystopian, exploration, etc.
As for Rex’s complaint about adding “FILM” to the answer, I think it rings awkward because the usual phrase has the word coming first, as FILM NOIR, so the recent ones should be called FILM NEO-NOIR, not as it appeared in the puzzle.
Btw, how did Rex get the -ANII of JUSTINIANII before filling in the J of SAJAK, which was one of my first answers? His method of solving is a PUZZLING PROBLEM to me…

SouthsideJohnny 10:14 AM  


*****.Off Topic *****

Ok, I just learned why Rex hates BRET STEPHENS - they are intellectual opposites. Bret’s actually a proponent of exposing yourself to ideas and opinions that you might find distasteful or disagree with (and of encouraging others to do so as well) - and we all know full well how Rex feels about that. Wow.

<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/opinion/free-speech-campus.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare”> Go Forth and Argue</a>

MarthaCatherine 10:25 AM  

Two things:

Can someone explain 20D. How is a certain cell provider a CAPTOR? Never heard of a cell provider being a called that, unless it's some kind of veiled insult (to the company or to the customer)?

I call foul on 33D. The clue reads Middle of to-day. No way a hyphen with no spaces around it represents a word. I'm thinking dash something. maybe dashd (which IS the center of the clue) was some sort of stand-in for noon. There's some overthinking for ya. Better clue: To ___ day. But maybe that would make it too easy for a Saturday.

Other than that, liked the puzzle a lot, especially that fine center stack. Had fLED for 48A for far too long. But that's on me.

Nancy 10:37 AM  

I wonder how many of you suffered as much as I did? Writing my first comment as I do, before reading any other comments, sometimes makes my curiosity close to unbearable.

But when you have long, vague, idiomatic answers to even vaguer clues -- answers that an be SOMETHING, ANYTHING or NOTHING at all -- solvers, we've got a PUZZLING PROBLEM.

Thanks you, SADIE, sweetie. I cheated on you today -- and only one you, btw -- and it unlocked this whole previously undoable puzzle for me. It enabled me to change INURE/ENURE (I'm never sure which one it will be) to ADAPT at 45D -- and that gave me the BLED that I had always wanted.

Why wouldn't DOES fit at 23D. Oh, yes, it's the Biblical DOES! DOEST!!! Yay! I wrote it in. But no, it's DOETH.

I wanted NOIRISH FILM but couldn't make it work. NEONOIR??? Is that a category?

My Biblical proverb for today: "What profiteth a constructor if he stumpeth the solver but loseth that solver's love?" This was too bleepin' hard!

SouthsideJohnny 10:40 AM  

@Mary M 10:13 I understand the concept of the “Dark”, ie. mysterious plots, etc. Rex mentioned that he taught a class and implied that there is/was a “Noir Era” (1940-80) in today’s post - in which case they would/could be mutually exclusive in the case of movies (films?) released this century for example. It sounds like you agree with that to some extent. As I reread my comment, it does sound like I was referring to NOIR as meaning “new”, but I was really just contemplating how one would characterize newer releases made in the old NOIR style.

I’ll also note that the concept of sub-genres of SPACE OPERA such as dystopian, exploration, et c. is enough to make my head explode, lol.

andrew 10:44 AM  

In the 70s, went on game shows hosted by TREBEK and BARRY. Since the former was too long and the latter too crooked (involved in the rigging scheme), correctly guessed SAJAK.

OMGYES - found my losing appearance on YouTube. Much less fun than winning (honestly, Jack Barry had mended his ways) on Jokers Wild two years before where I Beat The Devil (from HWORD).

22 Year Old Me With Big Hair and Alex Trebec

Fun Saturday puzzle, with sidetrips down memory lane!

Nancy 10:51 AM  

Thanks heavens for you, @jberg! We both were about to bail at the same juncture, both decided to cheat on SADIE, and both found that one cheat enough to make the whole puzzle belatedly gettable. Before I got to your comment, I was feeling really dumb -- since absolutely no one seemed to be suffering nearly as much as I did.

Anonymous 10:56 AM  

First time replying to this blog having read it for years, but when I see something anything I have to add OMG yes!

jae 11:27 AM  

Easy and it would have been easier if I hadn’t had GAbbY before GASSY. This had quite a bit of good stuff, liked it.

Pete 11:28 AM  

@Southside - I have to give you this, it takes a lot of balls to log onto someone's site and call them a jackass about something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Wait, no it doesn't. It's a chump move.

Also, Bret Steven's intellectual courage? Pointing out other peoples mistakes when they're no where to be seen? Man, that takes courage also. Look at me! I'm bravely speaking the truth! The CIA made a mistake (even if I don't really know what the CIA really had to say)!

mathgent 11:41 AM  

@Wanderlust (7:52). We're saving a nice piece of cake for you. Down here by the hopscotch court.

pabloinnh 11:51 AM  

@Liveprof-I did Tuesday's New Yorker puzzle and my reaction to that clue and answer was somewhere between a raised eyebrow and a spit take. One of those "this has to be right, but really???" .

JC66 12:06 PM  

@MarthaC

Think jail cell.

Kate Esq 12:16 PM  

The cell a captor provides is a prison cell.

Stratocaster57 12:25 PM  

Erefor? Erelong? Trash. I had FOR in there, and it was my only writeover.

CWT 12:25 PM  

Sorry if I echo a whole bunch of comments. I’m trying to play catch up after a week away. What’s that? Where was I? Oh, thanks for asking! I was sailing across the Atlantic on the Queen Mary 2. Now in London, with decent WiFi.
As for the puzzle: put me in the “Easy” group. Amazing how some days the long answers just roll off the line right onto the page! Helped that I knew it had to be Sajak and therefore Justinian. So many long whoosh whoosh whooshes that I didn’t even notice the clever something/nothing/anything stuff.
A lot of fun!

Anonymous 1:18 PM  

You’re here every ****ing day dude.

Anonymous 1:38 PM  

Awesome video!

ThistlewickFlanders 1:43 PM  

I had "Puzzling Evidence" from True Stories too after this puzzle! Can someone build a puzzle with True Stories as the theme?

Anonymous 2:00 PM  

PUZZLINGPROBLEM was difficult for me. I was trying to think of something clever, new, different, Saturday- like and got this nothING of an answer. Nice trick!

okanaganer 2:19 PM  

I thought this was pretty solid. That SOMETHING NOTHING stack is great.

For "Middle of to-day" I first had DASH. Remember when it used to be spelled that way? Neither do I, because it was 250 years ago.

I also thought VOWS were "copied for partners", which doesn't really make sense when I think about it.

[Spelling Bee: yd 0, my last 2 words this 5er and its past tense.]

Anonymous 2:22 PM  

My cousin told me that the most useful advice he ever got in Navy OCS was to always trust your CPO (chief petty officer).

Joe Dipinto 3:00 PM  

@Andrew – that is a great video clip! I think Alex's hair was bigger than yours.

Trina 3:05 PM  

CAPTOR provides a prison CELL

Anonymous 3:05 PM  

"New" meaning "just published."

Kitty Florey 3:11 PM  

"New" as in "just published."

CDilly52 3:25 PM  

As a USAF wife, I agree completely. Confusing and tricky are fine but this one is just isn’t either of those.

Newboy 3:26 PM  

THIS THING BLED? Well, I thought it cute too, but in an OMGYES way. Thanks John.

CDilly52 3:27 PM  

@anon 6:53 AM. I was also assuming the “misdirect that wasn’t” was CIDER. Would have been really disappointed if it was some odd tech answer.

burtonkd 3:49 PM  

@Liveprof & pabloinnh, same here for the Tuesday NYer. I would never clutch my pearls over that in any other sphere, but it was a shocker. I do believe that "the breakfast test" is a self-imposed constraint for the NYTimes, and does not apply anywhere else, although it does seem to be a convention in puzzworld. I find that I have to look up a lot more things to complete the Monday and sometimes Tuesday NYers, as they don't mind putting in much more niche, current, or obscure references.

For REX, a clogged toilet is a big PROBLEM, but nothing PUZZLING about it, other than who might be responsible.

SOMETHING
ANYTHING
NOTHING
Love the 9,8,7 letter-ness of that. The last part of my puzzle to complete with a nice AHA!

Bill from FL 4:27 PM  

Excalibur was not drawn from the stone. Arthur received it from the Lady of the Lake

Bill fro FL 4:33 PM  

Arthur didn’t draw Excalibur from the stone. The Lady of the Lake gave it to him.

CDilly52 4:49 PM  

Hoo boy! I thought I would never get a real start on this one. If it weren’t for the iconic EXCALIBUR, I might never have gotten any kind of a toehold. It gave me the hope I needed to suck it up and carry on. Using downs I filled in the NE and got some good flow down the whole E side.

Gotta admit that I had a major disconnect with our constructor. Very little wavelength connection. I’d occasionally hit a spot like clue for CIDER or even better good old EXCALIBUR with its X and U that absolutely unlocked the NW that was giving me fits. I got LED rather than ran, AXE (that I thought was “hog” as in Motorcycle), and confirmed my guess that 8D started with PUZZLING. No wavelength - at all.

But there were just enough spots where I connected to keep some flow going and the center stack helped since I got them easily with only a few downs.

I love days like this. We get to see how diverse our minds are in their individual reaction to a specific puzzle. It’s all about each person’s frame of reference and how it connects with the puzzle’s constructor/s. And this connection is so individual. We all have millions of facts and experiences and they are stored in ourselves and used to be us - each as individual and gorgeous as a flake of snow or a drop of rain water. And we come together through this genre of entertainment and through this blog have formed a community of very diverse individuals with a common interest. How I wish that we could solve human differences through similar means. My new goal - crosswords for world peace!


SteveHikes 5:10 PM  

I do not comment very often, but I at least skim Rex's review and the other comments. I sometimes think Rex nitpicks, and that Lewis gushes too much. But today, methinks Rex snarled too much, and Lewis offered an accurate appreciation of this puzzle.

Anonymous 6:37 PM  

Threw down AlSoknownas off the second A in SAJAK. That took a while to recover from. Led me to nAchOs before CAPTOR.

Loved the clue for CIDER.

If you haven’t heard DAX’s podcast, I highly recommend it. Wonderful interviewer.

Pete 9:11 PM  

@Bill From Fl - Actually, there are two Excaliburs, the one Arthur drew from the stone, and one that the Lady of the Lake gave to him.

Excalibur (/ɛkˈskælɪbər/) is the mythical sword of King Arthur that may be attributed with magical powers or associated with the rightful sovereignty of Britain. Traditionally, the sword in the stone that is the proof of Arthur's lineage and the sword given him by a Lady of the Lake are not the same weapon, even as in some versions of the legend both of them share the name of Excalibur. Several similar swords and other weapons also appear within Arthurian texts, as well as in other legends. [Wikipedia]

Or, it's all a bunch of made up crap.

dgd 9:11 PM  

The clue said preceder to long and NOW not for. Both ere long & ere now are of course old expressions that appear frequently in crosswords. Earlier in the week, they would be clued as poetic. Very easy clue and not trash at all.

RooMonster 12:31 AM  
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Gavin 7:52 PM  

Checking in from syndication land on July 7 to say that my local paper, the Anchorage Daily News, managed to print this puzzle with the bottom-most row having been cut off. Which suggested to me the whole time that the puzzle was going to be a great deal more confusing than it actually was, as I tried to effect some sort of wraparound, or at least something clever with the extra letters. Alas, the ADN just screwed up the printing. Life is tough out here in the colonies.

spacecraft 10:17 AM  

It's a shame DAX wasn't clued as "Jadzia ___, STDS9 character," played by super-DOD Terry Farrell.

Didn't like the repeat of recent gridspanner NOTHINGPERSONAL. It was a great answer...once.

Too easy for a Saturday. Bogey.

Wordle bogey.

Anonymous 11:24 AM  

Medium-challenging for me. The NW corner was the trickiest because of DAn before DAX. JUSTINIANII made the NE tricky too. LINGUM was a WOE. In short, there were many PUZZLINGPROBLEMS but everything was solvable via the crosses. Would I like more puzzles by John Westwig? OMGYES !!!

Burma Shave 3:05 PM  

ASSUMED PROBLEM

SADIE had SOMETHING YOUWANT,
so THIS NEONOIRFILM tried her
with NOTHINGPERSONAL TO flaunt
and DAX ABIT in CIDER.

--- KIM SAJAK

rondo 3:23 PM  

Must SMARTENUP ABIT. GAbbY before GASSY and diy before NEW slowed down the east side. Noticed: LINEA BLEWAFUSE ABIT.
DNF wordle; too many shots at BGBGG and none good.

Anonymous 4:06 PM  

It's amazing pulling needles out of a haystack as one gets older, because that haystack keeps getting bigger as one ages. And since I'm a decade older than Zod, that haystack is starting to fill the entire barn.
On a side note: Rex, not all problems are puzzling. If you trip over a rock while walking, you know exactly what the problem is. The puzzling part is, who the f*** put it there!

Anonymous 4:25 PM  

The great Todd Rundgren.

Anonymous 4:27 PM  

Too idiosyncratic for wiiiiide popularity, but my all time favorite. Writes and performs music in almost all genres and excels.

Diana, LIW 8:42 PM  

I also guessed gabby before GASSY, and had to guess at some of the "name" crossings, but really...it was easyish for a Saturday puzzle. Ax the DAX - that's all.

Diana, LIW

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