Big brand in immunity support / SAT 6-17-23 / Bright purple yam used to flavor desserts / Whom Athena smites with a boulder in the Iliad / Flack in the music business / Emoji with red face and fangs / See you soon in France / Two-in-one computer command / Retailer that sells hydration packs

Saturday, June 17, 2023

Constructor: Ryan McCarty

Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: UBE (37D: Bright purple yam used to flavor desserts) —
Dioscorea alata
, also known as purple yamube (/ˈubɛ//ˈub/), or greater yam, among many other names, is a species of yam (a tuber). The tubers are usually a vivid violet-purple to bright lavender in color (hence the common name), but some range in color from cream to plain white. It is sometimes confused with taro and the Okinawa sweet potato (Ipomoea batatas cv. Ayamurasaki), although D. alata is also grown in Okinawa, where it is known as beniimo (紅芋). With its origins in the Asian tropicsD. alata has been known to humans since ancient times. // Because it has become naturalized following its origins in Asia, specifically the Philippines, through tropical South America, and the southeastern U.S., D. alata is referred to by many different names in these regions. In English alone, aside from purple yam, other common names include ten-months yamwater yamwhite yamwinged yamviolet yamGuyana arrowroot, or simply yam. [...] Purple yam desserts have more recently entered the United States through Philippine cuisine, under the Filipino name "ube". It is particularly popular due to the striking violet-purple color it gives to desserts. (wikipedia)
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This one knocked me around quite a bit, which normally I don't mind so much on a Saturday, but there was a name-heavy, trivia-test quality to this one that eventually made it a bit tiresome, and too often my struggle in a given corner was rewarded with longer answers that felt ... somehow less than rewarding. The opening corner, i.e. the NW corner, set the tone for the whole puzzle. The opening corner is often harder than the rest, since you start with nothing, which is the hardest place to start, but still, yeesh. UKE before LEI, DEAD SEA before ARAL SEA, GELATIN (?) before KERATIN, ASK ME before USE ME, a heap of time wondering what the hell kind of STAMP I might be dealing with at 3D: Something once sold for pennies that's now worth much more (RARE STAMP), a heap of time wondering what was needed for "pressing" at 1A: Pressing need? if it wasn't some kind of IRON (which, in a way, I guess it was ... just not in a way that helped me) (BARBELL). I somehow retrieved the brand name ESTER-C from ... somewhere in my brain, but I have a feeling that answer is gonna drag at least some solvers to the bottom of the Proper Noun Ocean, if ARES BAKU LANA STAN ARAL SEA haven't done that already. The worst part about that corner wasn't the difficulty so much as how much the difficulty came from names, and also how unrewarding it was to finally get the RARE part of RARE STAMP. I was waiting on something snappy, something on-the-money, perfect, specific ... something. And I just get RARE? I mean, the clue is accurate enough, but oof, the banality of RARE really made all the effort up there feel not quite worth it. 


Things get easier—and more rewarding—toward the middle. Usually these wide-open parts of grids can be intimidating and difficult to get ahold of, but I had an unexpected bit of whoosh-whoosh after finally breaking out of the NW, as I went AUTOCOMPLETE to MADE LOVE to DIVER to RIMS in quick succession. So what felt like forever in the NW and then bam, I'm all the way to the bottom of the grid. I've also seen PUH-LEASE so many times now (87 times this year? Something like that?), that the spelling there didn't fool me, so without much effort I had three longer answers shooting through that middle, which made it relatively easy to bring down. But then there's UBE. Ask me about UBE. Or don't. Actually, don't. I am insufficiently acquainted with Philippine cuisine to have any idea what UBE is. Not often you see someone debut a *3*-letter word, but here we are. UBE. I thank god for crosses and I mourn for the person/people who had yet to encounter the PUH- part of "OH, PUH-LEASE," R.I.P. I also mourn for the non-French speakers, holy cow, À BIENTÔT!? I took French for seven years, so I'm good, but that seems somewhat on the tough (and long) side for foreign expressions. Anyway, despite writing in OMAHA before IDAHO (43D: Sacagawea's birthplace, today), that SW corner was easy enough. Hardest part was figuring out how the ADLIB clue worked (41D: Cut the cards, perhaps) (think "cut" as in "cut out" or "fail to use," and "cards" as in "cue cards").   


Longer answers disappointment returned in the SE with OIL HEAT (38D: Option for a house-warming?) and especially the singular noun GO-GO DANCE (30D: Bit of entertainment for which 57-Across (BOOTS) are worn). I think OIL HEAT is valid, actually, it's just not a phrase I ever hear. I guess we have GAS HEAT here in our home, and others have other kinds of HEAT in their homes, such as OIL HEAT. OK. Again, the answer just didn't have the "aha" snap I was yearning for. It's certainly better (or, more plausible) than OIL LAMP, which I may have actually written in (I like OIL LAMP better as fill in general, but *not* as an answer to this particular clue, obviously). And while GO-GO DANCERs and GO-GO DANCING seem like great answers, somehow one lone GO-GO DANCE just seems implausible and sad. Would never have thought of it as a countable noun. You can see GO-GO DANCE used as a verb ("Learn to GO-GO DANCE!") or adjective ("GO-GO DANCE moves!") if you go-go-google it. And I'm sure it *is*, technically, a singular noun. Just doesn't seem like a natural / customary form of the word, is all. 


Lots more names in the NE, where I finished up. ROBERTA was a huge gimme, as was SNAPE, but HOYEON was almost impossible for me (14A: __ Jung, "Squid Game" actress). I watch a reasonable amount of Korean film and am still very bad at registering actor names. I have never watched "Squid Game" (we canceled Netflix a while back), but even if I had, I wonder how much luck I'd've had with HOYEON. There's nothing at all wrong with her name appearing in a puzzle, but her name here at the end was yet another proper noun log on the proper noun fire, and by that point, the fire's pretty big. I had to run the alphabet to get the "Y" in her name, and ... well, you know where "Y" comes in the alphabet. Rough, anticlimactic way to end. I guess getting AYE did give me a little bit of an "aha" there to finish things off—it's a cute (if brutal) clue (9D: Word said in passing?) (i.e. passing ... a bill into law). And I really did think the middle was impressively creamy. But this was too often a name-slog, without enough sparkly long-answer payoff overall. And yet ... I find myself grateful that the puzzle is still willing to give me a proper Saturday workout. I'm always going to be out here advocating for a. insane trickiness on Thursdays (and Sundays, why not!?), and b. Real Difficulty on Saturdays. And while I didn't quite get the joy I wanted today, I did get the hardness, which is its own kind of joy. For me, anyway. 


Bullets:
  • 34A: One who grows up, then eventually croaks (TADPOLE) — OK that's a good clue
  • 38A: Emoji with a red face and fangs (OGRE) — how would I know that's an OGRE and not just ... an emoji with a red face and fangs?
  • 55A: Exist naturally (INHERE) — making this a verb instead of an expression indicating location ("IN HERE!") is some Saturday-level madness, for sure.
  • 52D: Chicken tender? (VET) — me, with the "V" in place: "uh ... VAC!? Why are you vacuuming your chickens!?" (a VET "tends" to chickens, such as those harmed in bizarre vacuuming accidents)
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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103 comments:

Anonymous 6:17 AM  

Disappointed you didn’t have anything to say about HORSEFLESH. Not something I’d ever like to see in a puzzle and really? Equines, collectively is their flesh?

OldCarFudd 6:29 AM  

I've heard the expression: "He's a good judge of horse flesh", so yeah, it's valid.

Son Volt 6:31 AM  

HORSE FLESH - OIL HEAT - COPY PASTE? Liked that goofy looking center - but overall just OK. Stella’s Stumper is a RAY OF LIGHT compared to this.

USE ME

Tom F 6:48 AM  

Add me to the group of folks who will feel slightly queasy about HORSEFLESH. I just ate fast food too, so there’s my lesson.

Other than that I thought the puzzle was easy and entertaining. Some great cluing esp. TADPOLE, AUTOCOMPLETE, INHERE, MANACLE. Ad Lib too.

I dropped in RARE STAMP intuitively but was hopeless for GOGODANCE, BOOTS and all…

Wanderlust 6:59 AM  

This was quite challenging for me, but ultimately figure-outable, exactly what I look for on a Saturday. Lots of nice cluing and answers, including the dastardly “what might turn pie into pieces.” I had everything for AUTO COMPLETE except the C and the second T. The last letter of ESTER-C could have been anything. I guessed HeYEON because I thought “fight (with)” would be some kind of DeBAT—. Even when I got RAY OF LIGHT and TADPOLE (yes, nice clue), I still wasn’t seeing DO BATTLE, and couldn’t see how AUTO COMPLETE had anything to do with a pie. Nice aha moment when I finally saw it.

I loved the GOGO DANCE - BOOTS combo. No problem with the singular. Somehow I see a lone woman in a groovy bar, dancing on a pedestal in her miniskirt and BOOTS - seemingly a vapid piece of eye candy but actually a Soviet assassin with a stilleto in that right boot.

I had OH PUHLEezE first, and it seems better to me. I love “LEAVE ME” and can imagine screaming it with multiple exclamation points whenever someone is droning on about something while I’m obviously trying to read. I have the world’s most wonderful next-door neighbor - he is an amazing raconteur and would do anything for us - but he is always dropping by to chat when I’m on the patio cherishing some alone time with a drink and a book after a long and very social work day. LEAVE ME!!! - the introvert’s dreamed-about exclamation. Sigh. I put the book down and offer him a drink.

Andy Freude 7:27 AM  

Last letter: the K in BAKU. How often do you finish with 1D?

SouthsideJohnny 7:34 AM  

Rex described the NW to a T (as in TRIVIA) which is not my forte, so that whole section looked like a total wasteland. Really a big ask for those not familiar with ESTERC, BAKU, KERATIN, ARES, UTAH Territory, STAN the American Dad and whatever TAM from Glasgow is. I much prefer when they use recognizable answers and let the cluing guide the difficulty, a la ADLIB, MANACLE and even VET were today. Unfortunately, they chose to continue to pile on with stuff like HOYEON, SNAPE, MERCI ABIENTOT, BUENO and UBE (which AUTO incorrect won’t even let me COMPLETE).

I don’t get the whole emoji thing - other than the smiley face and maybe the thumbs up, I never know what they hell they are supposed to convey, but at least the description of the one that’s allegedly supposed to be an OGRE sounds like what an OGRE might actually look like - so I’m glad to see them go that route rather than unnecessarily dragging my good buddy SHREK into the mix.

Lewis 7:35 AM  

THE OUTING

I always come into Saturday with great optimism, thinking that things are going to fall rapidly, then right at the start, reality hits. Clues fight me. Fill-ins are rare and result in desperate stabs off the letters I just put in. I realize it’s going to be a long haul. Then determination sets in. I know from experience that if I stick with it, new answers will come; they will feel well earned and be placed down with fist-pumping joy. They will beget other answers. And slowly, slowly, the tide will turn in my favor. Eventually the puzzle caves, and, in my imagination, the constructor and I shake hands, both pleased that our mission was accomplished. Win-win.

This is my Saturday ideal. And it was perfectly met today. Thank you, Ryan!

Lewis 7:36 AM  

THE PUZZLE

OMG what a beauty, just what I’ve come to expect from master technician/artist Ryan.

Technician yes. Where’s the junk in this spare-in-words (66) grid? Far, far away.

Artist? Well, where do I begin?
• Answers from varied fields – Geography, arts, world of computers, animals, conversation, philately, cars, foreign languages, mythology.
• Originality in cluing – VET had been clued in the NYT 240 times but before today, never with [Chicken tender]. LEI had been clued 544 times, but never with [Strung accompaniment for a hula]. See also [Pressing need] for BARBELL, [Cut the cards, perhaps] for AD LIB, and [Digital support group?] for TOES.
• Wordplay. See the clues just mentioned. Pure smile-producing brilliance.
• NYT answer debuts – six, including the wonderful BULL SESSIONS, RUN LOOSE, and OH PUHLEASE.
• Fresh answers, that is, rarely seen in puzzles – AUTOCOMPLETE, COPY PASTE, FOR ALL TIME, RARE STAMP, and more.

Here it is, the art and science of crossword construction paradigmed in this gorgeous creation. What a lift! High gratitude for your mastery, Ryan.

Conrad 7:49 AM  


Challenging for me, my experience was similar to @Rex's but with more struggling. Too many overwrites to catalog, including the clumsy and overtly misleading clue for 6D, which led me to UKE before LEI That crossing nearly DNF'd me. I had uke, then filled in the L and the E as BARBELL and ARAL SEA filled in, but didn't notice LEe. KERATeN looked fine to me. Oops!

Anonymous 7:51 AM  

Agree with Rex and Southside Johnny that there's way too much BAKU ESTERC type stuff in the NW that's obscure and not guessable. There's a difference between "oh, I get it now, that's clever" and "I never heard of that before and there's no way I could derive that in any way." Some of the latter is interesting and educational, but not all bunched up like that.

Anonymous 7:53 AM  

As someone looking to update their heating system, every conversation started with, "Are you looking for gas heat or OIL HEAT?" I can tell you that the term OIL HEAT is extremely common in the industry.

Twangster 8:14 AM  

Definitely a challenge but managed to finish it.

One thing that held me up was that I misread 12-Down as Henry Potter, and I weirdly conflated Harry Morgan and Sherman Potter into one person, so I was looking for a MASH character. SNAPE is about the only thing I know from Harry Potter.

Anonymous 8:18 AM  

Me wonders if NYT might get CCP blowback for referring to Lhasa as a capital…tho I guess could be regional

pabloinnh 8:21 AM  

Challenging indeed, and tested my resolve not to look stuff up. Finished with a couple of errors but paper doesn't give me happy music anyway. I had a letter in every square, so there's that.

Agree with all on the NW. Didn't know ESTERC or BAKU so my "nail material" wound up being CERAMIC, which is used for artificial nails. At least in my puzzle it is.

There's someone named HOYEON? HOYEON is a name? The things I learn.

Someday I'll watch American Dad. Right after I get done watching Schitt's Creek, probably.

Felt all tech-smart knowing COPYPASTE and then I got hit with AUTOCOMPLETE, which took all the crosses. Duh.

Pretty thorny Saturday, RMC. Revealed My Considerable ignorance of pop culture, again, but thanks for lots of fun.

Anonymous 8:42 AM  

Can someone explain the Howard Jones / No One is to Blame reference?

Anonymous 8:43 AM  

In good ways and bad, that was the most difficult puzzle I’ve done in a while. I just don’t think horseflesh should ever be allowed, anywhere. I live in horse country and it’s simply not a thing.

Bob Mills 8:44 AM  

Started it before breakfast, finished it a bowl of cereal and an hour later. I had "cuticle" instead of KERATIN for a long while, and only got MERCI after cheating. Hard puzzle, with a lot of two-way clues.

Objection...CUTPASTE. Shouldn't it be "cutandpaste"?
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beverly c 8:53 AM  

I liked the cluing so much I didn’t mind the things I had to find with crosses - except maybe HOYEON.
RARESTAMP! I thought it was a good KIP (kick in the pants) answer - it shouldn’t have been as hard to see as it was.
I also got a smile from GOGODANCE. As a kid I had a pair of those short white boots…

Randy 9:04 AM  

I'm just going to say it. I hated this puzzle and I think many of the words and clues where absolutely terrible. The foreign words and phrases, so many that even after I got them right I had no idea what they were or mean (in here, horse flesh, etc).
Just bad. Good riddance

Dr.A 9:06 AM  

I liked it! Hard but still in my wheelhouse. I loved FORALLTIME. Was so ridiculously difficult for me and then when I got it, I had that “oh man, how did I miss that?”feeling but hey, that’s the fun of it all! This is my kind of puzzle. I like a brain work out that doesn’t totally rely on proper nouns that i don’t know.

jae 9:14 AM  

Very tough for me. I had to go to my bride for the French phrase at 41a. So I finished with an assist. ESTERIC was a WOE, line and barn before GOGO DANCE and INHERE, LANA, BAKU, HOYEON we’re also WOEs, plus me too for uke before LEI...very tough. An excellent challenge, liked it but @Rex is right about the PPP fest.

andrew 9:20 AM  

OOO? Out Of Office? OOOF! Puh-leaze!

Cheated on HOYEON and LANA and BARBELL. Outside of those, was a gettable challenge.

So “creamy” is now another XWord adjective? Along with “crunchy”, sounds like a lot of PB&J fans among the cruciverbalist COGNESCENTI!


(Ps - with all the horses dropping dead recently, thought HORSEFLESH would make Rex squeamish.)

Tom F 9:30 AM  

I’m sorry but no BAKU is not obscure. Nor is UBE. Baku is a world capitol and becoming more of a player, and ube is everywhere now.
Folks gotta get out of their bubbles. It’s a big old world out there.

RooMonster 9:30 AM  

Hey All !
Tough tough tough! SatPuz that kicked my caboose. Used the Check Puzzle feature, and even used Reveal Letter/Word feature! Dang. Came here expecting Rex to say it was his easiest puz in two millennia, but thankfully he called it Medium Challenging.

Inspired clue for TADPOLE. I got it right off the bat, but also got a chuckle out of it. For 1A, had wrinkLe in right off the bat, thinking how smart am I.

Do people really put OOO in emails? "Would love to help you out, but OOO." Which I'm guessing is Out Of Office? OOMM for me (Out Of My Mind) 😁

So a proper SatPuz beat down. AYE.

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Photomatte 9:36 AM  

Tough puzzle if you don't know random actors' names, esoteric geography or arcane words that aren't used in modern English (redundant, I suppose). This puzzle was difficult, not clever. Finishing it felt like having a cavity filled: "whew, glad that's over."
I still don't get how Exist naturally (55 Across) ends up as IN HERE. Say what? My memory of HORSEFLESH is seeing it on a menu in Shinjuku one night. I didn't try it but I've always wondered where they acquired it; stabling horses in Tokyo, after all, is an impossibility.
ABIENTOT!

Weezie 9:44 AM  

Another hand up for hating HORSEFLESH. I also definitely struggled with the NW corner like many of you, and was similarly disappointed by RARE STAMPS. I both was very grateful for the foothold of ABIENTOT and also thought it wasn’t quite fair.

But in general there were some excellent misdirects and some impressive fill words, so I still enjoyed it quite a bit. OOO is fine by me - we use it regularly at my workplace. In general, nice to have a Saturday with some bite.

Hope folks enjoy their weekends!

Anonymous 10:00 AM  

A French phrase, crossing a Spanish phrase, crossing the absolute nonsense of INHERE. Give me a break.

Gary Jugert 10:03 AM  

Nope.

Uniclues:

1 One about to be headless.
2 Crossword solver opposed to modern usage.
3 Plastic flower chain.
4 Warlock's dogs wowed.

1 SERF ON STRIKE
2 "OH PUHLEASE" OGRE
3 LEI FOR ALL TIME
4 SNAPE TOES AWED (HP is #1!)

bocamp 10:04 AM  

Thx, Ryan, for this wonderful challenge! 😊

Tough (2x Sat avg).

Took forever to get any foothold at all.

Finally got going in the SE, and slowly branched out from there.

BULL SESSIONS was a big help.

Still haven't decided on the guess for the 'Word said in passing' / 'Squid Game' cross.

Have enjoyed the BATTLE; will hit the sack for now, hoping for some inspiration, then come back to DO more BATTLE in the morn. [update: yay, it often works to put something down for a while and come back to it; there's a word for gaining inspiration this way, but I've forgotten it, so I might be in a kind of Hofstadter's self-referential loop with it. Maybe it'll come sometime today. Anyhoo, yay me!, I got AYE / HOYEON shortly after putting the puz on hold.] :)

So all ends well; a most invigorating trip! :)
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On to Stella Zawistowski's Sat. Stumper (hi Son Volt). 🤞
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egsforbreakfast 10:09 AM  

For 9D (Word said in passing) I first put ASS, since it is in p ass ing.

I remember eating at the original Paris McDonald’s in the early 70s. Everyone said they used horse meat. It certainly wasn’t beef. The company eventually took legal action to cancel the franchise agreement.

I got a smile from GOGODANCE, as my 5 year old granddaughter (coincidentally the cutest kid in the universe) is named Golden and goes by GOGO. Did I mention that she’s really cute?

If Ray-O-Vac merged with LifeFlight, would they call it RAYOFLIGHT?

I thought this was a very fun sort of medium-tough puzzle with a bunch of great clues. Thanks, Ryan McCarty.

Kent 10:20 AM  

The NW was the last section to fall. I only had two answers, and one was wrong (uke - that’s a devilish clue). Took both it and BLAME ON out and started over. Finally had to peek at a map of the Caspian Sea and figured out BAKU, and that got me BARBELL and eventually the rest. It was one of the harder recent puzzles I can remember, but ultimately found the result more satisfying than Rex.

I’m surprised that UBE is a debut. It seems like a useful three-letter word and I didn’t think it was that obscure. We even brought home an ube pancake mix from Hawaii last year.

Anonymous 10:32 AM  

Well said

OISK 10:36 AM  

Sailed through NW, which others found tough. Geography - Baku and Aral Sea were gimmees.... But I disliked this puzzle in general. OOO ?? UBE? autocomplete? Aren't Copy and Paste two separate commands? But for all the foreign phrases, product references, pop culture, (Serena? Snape, Lana Condor, Ester C ) - I GOT all of those! Good for me! But I was defeated, very unfairly, IMHO, by "Aye" with Hoyeon. If you are going to include an extremely rare ( in my experience unheard of) first name like Hoyeon, you can't cross it with a "wise guy" clue for "aye." It's not just a NATICK, it is a completely unfair, and unnecessary NATICK. It snatched from me the reward I deserved after a long struggle ...... If you have to look at a map (Kent), that's a DNF, isn't it??

Carola 10:50 AM  

I had high hopes for a Ryan McCarty puzzle, but finishing this one left me feeling more exasperated than exhilarated. After I'd encountered one too many proper nouns, OH PUHLEASE seemed all too apt. I knew enough to make it through (e.g., BAKU, A BIENTOT, KERATIN), but leading role answers like AUTOCORRECT and COPY PASTE seemed like scant reward for having to come up with entries ESTER C and UBE. Still, I liked figuring out BARBELL, the surprise of INHERE, and the treat of having to erase my heavy metal band, iron ore, for MANACLE.

bocamp 11:23 AM  

WRT (with respect to) coming up with 'AYE':

Not being able to put my finger on it, the process of shelving it and not thinking about it is called 'incubation' (hi @Pablo, jae, et al, wrt solving Croce's, Sat. Stumper's, New Yorker Mons, etc). Thx to ChatGPT for nailing the word/concept for me and adding 'serendipity' into the mix. Here's our conversation:

Me

I'm trying to recall a word, and am thinking I'm in a kinda Hofstadter self-referential loop, i.e., trying to remember a word that describes how one can often get inspiration by putting a sticky problem aside, e.g., sleeping on it, and voila, the solution seems to jump out of nowhere. The word I'm looking for may start with the letter "p" or maybe "c", altho I'm just not sure. Can you help me track down this unique word, for gaining insight or inspiration by not thinking about what it is that you're trying to come up with?

ChapGPT

"Certainly! The word you are looking for might be "serendipity" or "incubation."

"Serendipity" refers to the occurrence of valuable or pleasant discoveries by chance or accident. It can be used to describe those moments when solutions or insights seem to appear unexpectedly while the mind is occupied with other thoughts or when a problem is put aside temporarily.

"Incubation" is another term that captures the idea of gaining insight or inspiration by not actively thinking about a problem. It suggests that by allowing the subconscious mind to work on the problem in the background while focusing on unrelated activities or giving it time to rest, a fresh perspective or solution may arise.

Both of these concepts align with the idea of setting aside a difficult problem and later experiencing a sudden breakthrough or solution.

User

Ah, you nailed it! "incubation" is, indeed, the word. Ty, so much! 🥰

ChatGPT

You're very welcome! I'm glad I could help you recall the word you were looking for. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask. Happy problem-solving and enjoy the benefits of incubation! 🌟

User

And, I love the word, "Serendipity", as well. I would see an "incubatous " (I'm coining a word here, lol) revelation as being "serendipitous". WDYT?

ChatGPT

Absolutely! "Incubatous" may not be an established word, but you can certainly use it playfully to describe the nature of a revelation or insight that arises during the incubation period. And yes, such an occurrence can indeed be considered "serendipitous" because it involves a fortunate and unexpected discovery or solution that seems to emerge effortlessly. It's always fun to play with words and create new ones to express unique ideas. So, go ahead and embrace the "incubatous" serendipity! 😄
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mathgent 11:24 AM  

There were 16 mysteries in the puzzle, a number I can usually handle with letters from the crossing entries and some good guessing. But too many of them bunched up in the NW this time and I needed to cheat.

When the dust settled, I went back to look for sparkle. Very little. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

Anonymous 11:32 AM  

One of the downs is BLAME ME, so I guess all our songs today come off of that.

You know your puzzle experience is fully enmeshed with this blog when you fill out RAY OF LIGHT and immediately look forward to the Madonna video that Rex’ll be posting. No such luck this week! No shade on Howard, though — I’m always happy to see him.

pabloinnh 11:38 AM  

Stumperphiles-Thought today's was easy-medium but then hit the SW, which offered mucho resistance.

Good luck!

Visho 11:45 AM  

Copypaste

Joseph Michael 11:47 AM  

Have to cry foul on a Squid Game actress crossing a Harry Potter character (NOT OK) and it’s hard to see how HORSE FLESH passes the breakfast test, but there were other parts of the puzzle that I really liked, such as the clues for AUTO COMPLETE and OIL HEAT. Give me wordplay over trivia any day.

Also liked the shout out to the almost-famous Irish tenor RAY O’FLIGHT.

Anonymous 11:55 AM  

Horseflesh is perfectly valid if we've somehow time-traveled to 1823.

jb129 11:56 AM  

Too hard for me. If I have to "cheat" (look at the blog) so much it's no fun.

GILL I. 12:02 PM  

Ay Chihuahua ....Where to begin? But first, let me go get my GOGO BOOTS and try to dance just a bit of my fandango tango.
Is their an ENGLISH word that is short for "GOOD GRAVY THIS WAS HARD?. Oh, the names the names, the names. Go away. You stayed and I had to figure you out. Do I peek and cheat or try to "get" them. HOYEON you were my first. MERCI.
On to tackle the longies going down and going across. First longy: RARE STAMP. Second: TAD POLE. And then, my friends, the puzzle became interesting.
It took me forever to do. I haven't a clue in hell what AUTO COMPLETE is or why it might turn pie into pieces. ESTERC? How to spell OHPUHLEASE. UBE? How do you pronounce your strange name....And finally LHASA. So I guess LHASA has a river named after it?
And so it went...I wasn't going to give up, though....and I didn't.
A lot of this intrigued me. A lot of this took some mighty thinking because the clues were fiendish. I like fiendish if used to amuse me. What I'm proud of is that I finished this thing with only two cheats. HOYEON and LHASA and a look-see on LANA.
I'm proud of getting COPY PASTE...(Hi @JC)...and spelling A BIENTOT correctly (I speak some French but I don't write in it. Even AD LIB didn't fool me.
I toot my HORN today.


GAC 12:11 PM  

Went through acrosses and downs several times before I had to look up some of the proper names in order to get some footholds. Puzzle remained very tough even with the cheating. But I still enjoyed what I was able to do on my own - about 85%. Kudos to the constructor and the editor.

Victory Garden 12:12 PM  

I had to come here to see what vitriol Rex would have on offer about SNAPE. Nothing!?

Beezer 12:14 PM  

Wow. This puzzle was a real challenge for me and, like yesterday, I managed to crack all of the puzzle EXCEPT the NE corner where I had (eye roll) tAlNS, lEroI (king) and, of course tOBATTLE. DAMNS and DOBATTLE just did NOT occur to me! (Second eyeroll) Oh. I forgot I asked my husband what a capital on the Caspian Sea is. I had put in ARALSEA immediately but these days it makes me sad because it seems like it will go from lake to pond status in my lifetime.

@Tom F I’m glad that BAKU is not obscure for you. Unfortunately for me the capitals of the “northern STANS” are not in my bailiwick but I hope to keep BAKU/K-Stan in my memory banks.

Ok. Confession. I had NEVER thought of the term HORSEFLESH as being related to the “thing” that made others queasy. While M-W defines it as: horses considered especially with reference to riding, driving, or racing…the Collins (British?) Dictionary defines it first in the “queasy” way. Yikes. I’m glad I was ignorant during the solve. Hmmm. Maybe I won’t ever say “I saw him/her/them “in the flesh” anymore…

Challenging and enjoyable puzzle! Thanks Ryan M!

IrishCream 12:19 PM  

I finished up in the NW corner, and was particularly thrown by USE ME. Having already filled in LEAVE ME below, I was not expecting another ME to be correct.

jberg 12:19 PM  

I enjoyed the struggle, but in the end I failed. First, I was absolutely wedded to UKE. I mean, what else could it be? So that ruled out the otherwise obvious ARAL SEA. Then geography let me down, Ask me to name the capital of Azerbaijan and I would reply BAKU instantly. But did I know it was on the Caspian? No, I did not. The only Caspian-bordering countries I was sure of were Russia and Iran, so I decided it must be the old crossword trick of using "capital" to mean "money," and put in RIAL, so happy that I'd remembered it. That corner was now officially impossible, and remained that way until I gave in and looked at the Caspian on Google Maps. Doh!

Then there was HOYEON/AYE. I've never watched Squid Games, probably never will, and I just couldn't come up with that sense of 'passing.' (In my defense, passing a bill requires more AYEs than Nays, but I might well say "AYE" to a bill that is defeated, so it's a pretty vague clue). I finally went with G, figuring AgE might be connected to passing from one stage of life to another. But to be fair, HOYEON is not an "obscure," name, it's just a Korean name, clued as a role in a Korean movie (or is it a TV series?).

I wanted Moderna (which didn't fit) or Pfizer (which did) for my immunity support, but fortunately I left it blank and got ESTERC from the crosses. Sounds like an old-fashioned soda revived by a cosmetics company.

Everyone should calm down about HORSEFLESH; it's an example of synecdoche, using the part for the whole. It's old-fashioned horse-racing lingo, ala Damon Runyan. When it's on the menu it's called "horse meat." Not that I've ever had it, though rumor has it that they used to serve it at the MIT Faculty Club.

Whoever was stuck on IN HERE, reparse it: INHERE, the root of INHERENT. If good morals INHERE in you, they are part of your nature.

I'm not sure whether using a Portuguese word to clue a French one is a but or a feature, but at least it's interesting.


barryevans 12:23 PM  

Yeah, couldn't let go of UKE, hence DNF. Sigh...

jberg 12:28 PM  

Here's my favorite song titled Don't Blame Me.

Anonymous 12:29 PM  

INHERE is the verb form of inherent and inherently.
Think of it like the relationship between adhere/adherent.

Teedmn 12:32 PM  

I guess it's not surprising to be less well-disposed towards a puzzle where you didn't fully succeed. I wasn't expecting that today because I almost always enjoy the struggle a Ryan McCarty puzzle gives, but the one, two, three punch of BAKU, ESTERC, LANA had me looking at a map of the Caspian Sea. At one point, like Rex, I took out USE and put in ASK and began to wonder if there was any way, geographically, that "Riga" could be near the Caspian sea (not really but desperate measures were called for.) And with "aSk" in place, 3D could be a duck STAMP. Google Maps gave me BAKU and I was able to finish with a couple of forehead slaps (LEI, ARAL SEA, d'oh).

Looking closer, I ended up with a DNF in the NE also - I could not come up with a Korean name that looked right and 9D fooled me - I ended up with HOgEON because AgE is often mentioned in obituaries (passing). I blame the mess in Congress for my error, :-).

Thanks Ryan, you beat me today!

Teedmn 12:34 PM  

And then there was the moment of hilarity when I misread "yam" as "yarn" for the purple dessert ingredient.

Anonymous 12:40 PM  

GILL I. @12:02 - Just go to Google, type in "puzzle pie" or something and BAM, the AUTOCOMPLETE feature guesses that you're looking for pieCES, hence it turns "pie" into "pieces". Not a big fan of that clue, to be honest.

jae 1:36 PM  

@bocamp - Your ChatGPT conversation reminded me of the "Sh*t Theory of Memory" posited by my late mentor and collegue William E. Montague a well known cognitive psychologist. The theory views memory as a giant cess pool which you accesss by stirring vigorously with a long wooden pole. Eventually the word/information you are looking for floats to the top.

Anonymous 1:40 PM  

Wasted away again in Maleskaville.
Seachin’ for HOYEON’s GOGODANCE BOOTS
Some people say there’s UBE in BAKU,
But ISEENOW that I don’t give a f***.

old timer 1:43 PM  

I'm so glad I learned French, and have traveled there so often. I can just hear that lovely lilt when someone says to me, "A BIENTOT". It means you know, and I know, that you have been (during your little stay) a regular visitor or customer, of that little shop you love, or that little cafe or bar that fills you with joy every time you go in. Whereas, though "au revoir" literally means, 'to the next time we see each other" it has a tone of formality to it. Not quite as final as "adieu", but closer to it. You might be back, but then again you might not.

I loved the puzzle, when I finally completed it. As @Lewis says, this one really fought back. BARBELL was my last entry, because I was so certain that LEI was really a uke. Plus, I have no idea how to spell KERATIN. And I thought Sacajawea was from Fargo, not IDAHO, since it was somewhere in the Dakotas that she met Lewis and Clark -- near Mandan, as I recall. And I bet a lot of you write in "deal" for "cut the cards", though in truth, it is the player next to the dealer that is supposed to cut.

OILHEAT came back slowly, too. For a few months I lived in Tacoma in a little house with OIL HEAT. I had to let a little OIL flow into the base of the heater, light it on fire, let it HEAT up enough, and whoosh! it was burning full blast. One heater for a little two-story house. It was really nice if you had a bed companion, in that cold upstairs bedroom, but by the time you fell asleep, the whole house was warm.

okanaganer 1:45 PM  

As Rex said, "name-heavy" and a "proper noun fire". That northwest corner was just brutal, as I have never heard of ESTEREC or LANA, and the clues for BAKU, ARES, and ARAL SEA didn't help much. HOYEON and UBE were also unknown. But aside from the names, which tried their best to ruin the fun, it was a good tough puzzle.

Typeovers: ROAM FREE before RUN LOOSE, and OH NO PLEASE before OH PUHLEASE.

[Spelling Bee: Fri -1, missed this 6er for not the first time.]

Sailor 2:07 PM  

"The only extant equines are the horses, asses, and zebras of the genus Equus" (Wikipedia).

Would you ever refer to a herd of zebras or asses as "horseflesh"?

I didn't think so.

TAB2TAB 2:21 PM  

Left with mixed feelings on this one. Quite the trivia-fest and with such a diverse assortment of unknown names, unknown places and unknown foreign phrases, there was plenty to dislike all around. The belly of this beast was great fun, but the NE, NW and SE were all brutal, mainly because of the PPP. The shining moments for me were AUTOCOMPLETE which made me smile out loud, as well as ADLIB and VET (once I figured them out), but HORSEFLESH left me scratching my headflesh and INHERE just felt wrong, even after realizing it was a single word.

bocamp 2:40 PM  

@jae (1:36 PM) 😂

Yes, the 'stir' method is much more familiar to me, and prob to most of us. lol However, the "AYE" came like the proverbial lightning bolt, right out of nowhere. Had completely forgotten about the missing 'letter' (whatever it might be), and bam! there it was. Definitely, incubatory.⚡️

Looking forward to your Croce pick of the week! :)
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Beezer 2:41 PM  

@jberg…Hah! As I said earlier, my first cheat was asking my husband “what is a capital city on the Caspian (4 letters)”? He immediately said BAKU…BUT then muttered…I don’t know if it’s the CAPITAL of Kyrgyzstan… When he gets back from golf I’ll let him know it’s Azerbaijan! You two had the opposite “weakness” but both of you knew WAY more than I did!

Anonymous 2:48 PM  

HORSEFLESH and OILHEAT were weird fill.

Oil heat just seemed like an awkward answer but ok, I’ll play along.

However.

I’ve *never* heard the word(s?) horseflesh used before. I don’t think of bovine for cow flesh or ovine for sheep flesh. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Pun 100% intended.

Gene 2:49 PM  

Surely one says a person's AGE in writing about their passing (on). And HOGEON seemed as likely to me as HOYEON. 😒

TAB2TAB 2:50 PM  

@bocamp I often use a "p-word" to describe the phenomenon of setting something aside to allow subconscious inspiration to bubble up to the surface - PERCOLATE. I often let things percolate not just in the sense of finding THE (single/correct) answer to something, but also to further develop an idea or concept that is in the works, an incremental process with an undefined conclusion. For what it's worth :)

Anonymous 2:52 PM  

This old timer remembers that horse meat was added to the menu of the Harvard Faculty Club as a war measure and it became so popular it was still an offering circa 1960 when my best friend’s Dad took us to lunch there.

Anonymous 2:54 PM  

I am impressed that some here can associate the puzzle with the style of a particular puzzle constructor. Has there ever been a study ( or contest) where the participants are given x number of someone’s and the participants have to name the constructor?
Or do the puzzles of Joe Blow have nothing that identifiable in common?

Anonymous 3:01 PM  

Can one develop PTSD within the space of a single day? Because at last night the resounds Resounds / THUNDERS clue/answer pair took me back to about 1:00 PM yesterday, where I was knocked out of my boots by the loudest / longest / house-shaking thunder bolt I've ever experienced. It was deafening, and lasted for about 15 seconds. I kind of gulped when it came up in the puzzle.

In the Wikipedia article about BAKU the first sentence details its population and location, that it's the capital, and the only capital city on the Caspian. The second sentence, where you get into the real color of the city, what is most interesting about it, and you get informed that it's below sea level. That's right, the most interesting thing about BAKU is that it's below sea level. That's one happening city. Want to know about it's night life? There is none, people just go to sleep with their flotation devices in case the dams break. The University of BAKU? It's a great school, but with only one class topic: Dyke building and maintenance, 1001 - 12005. They do send some of their best and brightest to the Netherlands to learn hydraulic pumping. They're probably going to stop doing that, as no one has ever returned. What they learned in the Netherlands was that if the damns broke, no amount of pumping was going to do any damned good, everyone was going to die. So of course they didn't go back. At one point BAKU had a thriving art scene, but it faded away as people only ever did variations of Under the Wave off Kanagawa, with the right hand side changed to city scenes of BAKU or neighboring villages. Then had to put a stop to that, it was scaring all the children.

Anonymous 3:29 PM  

I live in metaphor country and there it is most definitely a thing.

Anonymous 3:33 PM  

These were clues?

bocamp 3:59 PM  

@TAB2TAB (2:50 PM)

HERE's an AYE vote for 'percolate'. I like it! Fits nicely with incubate, both of which suggest patience, with a quiet sense of anticipation . So, yes, it's 'worth'y. 😉 Thx, for the idea. 😊

I'm sure I'll be employing both as I embark on Stella's Sat. Stumper after, of course, @jae's 'stir' method has been exhausted. lol
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CDilly52 4:27 PM  

I’m with @Lewis all the way today (thank you sir!) - both the outing and the puzzle. I face every Ryan McCarty offering with extra coffee though because he always has a few high hurdles and slippery slopes. Today both appeared in the upper left 25% of the grid.

First of all, the immunity support brand and have never seen or heard much about “American Dad,” so had no idea who he might be. I did know that his name started with an S because I did get AS TO. However, other than KERATIN, BAKU and USE ME (only because I knew BAKU-because I do xwords). But the remainder of the NW corner gave me brain freeze and I quickly moved on.

The NE 25% was easier, in fact pretty easy. Thank you Ryan! Actually, once I goth both RAY OF LIGHT (fairly tough) and BULL SESSIONS (easier) most of the puzzle had enough spots to give me a sprinkling of letters to get me through.

Really tough though was the GOGO DANCE-at least the GOGO part, even after I had _ _ _ ODANCE. And I am waaaaaay old enough to remember (and have worn) the BOOTS!! I think I have repressed that little piece of personal history and for good reason. I truly have no idea how I ever managed to sit through classes much less bike across a very windy campus in the ridiculously short skirts!

This was such fun from start to finish. Clever, tough, all over the cultural, artistic and geographic map and so artfully constructed to make it possible to solve even without knowing all the PPP. A wonderful Saturday outing and an exceptionally artful puzzle.

Chip Hilton 4:28 PM  

Killer NW corner did me in. I’m not going to moan too much - it’s Saturday, after all. Just a bunch of clues that were beyond me. OILHEAT? OHPUHLEASE! It’s perfectly fine - a term lots of homeowners here in the northeast use. Thanks for the workout, Ryan. Mental BARBELLS!

Space Is Deep 4:41 PM  

Tough one for me! Had to chip away off and on through the day. Finally finished with one letter wrong. That felt like a victory. I had to guess on the crossing of UBE and ABIENTOT. I guessed UBO.

Nancy 4:44 PM  

Couldn't finish the NW corner without cheating -- first on LANA. But LANA didn't help me all that much, because I had UKE and didn't even think it might be wrong. (Hi, @jberg.) So I ended up having to cheat on BARBELL in the NW too.

All the other unknowns somehow worked themselves out: HOYEON (that's a name???); ESTERC (never heard of it); AUTOCOMPLETE (is that anything like Autocorrect? I don't really get the clue.) The very strange UBE filled itself in so unobtrusively that I never even saw it. For the "Equines, collectively" clue, I wanted either HORSE GENUS, HORSE CLASS or HORSE ORDER. Imagine how I felt when all three were wrong.

I almost liked the clue for ADLIB. I wanted to like the clue for ADLIB. But I don't. It's trying too hard to be clever and it's just not an accurate clue.

An emoji clue for OGRE? I wonder if that emoji will look like one of the laughing emojis to me. Truth is all emojis look exactly the same to me, they really do. Tiny contorted red faces with some sort of strange blue ring going around.

And what/where in the world is "Tartarus"?

This was really hard. Finally, when I felt I'd suffered enough, I cheated. So Athena smites ARES with a boulder, does she? If I'd known that, I might not have had to cheat. But I didn't. I thought she might have smited/smote EROS.



Space Is Deep 4:44 PM  

I’ve worked in an office environment for decades. Never seen anyone use OOO. It is always OOTO.

Anonymous 5:20 PM  

It’s yea, not aye. Rant over.

Anonymous 5:26 PM  

I also wanted to complain about inherent but then remembered that it is a real word and the clue is the correct dictionary definition.

Nancy 5:26 PM  

"I speak some French but I don't write in it." --@GILL

Oh, how I envy you, @GILL. To speak a language you can't write means that you never formally studied it, that your ear is good enough to have picked it up on your own just by listening and speaking. I've always suspected that you were a natural linguist, GILL, what with your being bilingual, but this sort of proves it. Whereas my sad story...

I took three years of French in high school (it was well taught, btw) and I got straight "A"s. I took an elective year in college for good measure. When I traveled in France the summer after my senior year in high school, I tried to speak French the entire time I was there (5 weeks.) My high school friend made no such effort. I remember spending several hours trying to explain in French on the train going from Paris to Cannes to a French family who spoke no English why we Americans had been so dumb as to not have elected the brilliant Adlai Stevenson president. I despaired of finding the word for "egghead" and simply said "intellectuel" in an accent that Madame Ernst might have applauded.

But with all the immense effort I expended on trying to learn, use, and master the language, I failed. I still don't think in French, other than when ordering a meal. While I can make myself understood on any subject -- if I can't say it one way, I'll just find another way to say it -- the French person will then answer me speaking rapidly and idiomatically and I'm lost. Maybe I understand three out of ten words. Maybe not even that. My ear just isn't that good. It wasn't back then, it certainly isn't now, and that's just the way it is, however hard I tried to become fluent. An ear for languages is a gift -- and it's one I simply wasn't given, alas.

Joe Dipinto 5:52 PM  

We can't let today's thread slip by without dancing to some groovy sounds like
this

or this

or of course this

Anonymous 6:04 PM  

To continue with the French language and HORSEFLESH theme, I lived in Paris in the mid-sixties. There were horse butchers. (There still are a few.) One had a sign that said: “Vous avez perdu au tiercé? Vengez-vous. Mangez du cheval.” I’ll leave it to another francophone to grace you (gross you?) with the translation.

NYEDMD 6:37 PM  

Two of the worst examples of clueing I can recall — ever — not only in the same puzzle, but crossing each other as well.

1. Ester-C is not a brand, but a type of preparation, sold by many different brands (e.g.: Solgar, American Health, etc.). Never mind that whether it helps the immune system is open to debate.

2. The Aral sea doesn’t make the top fifteen when it comes to salinity. Probably much lower. It’d be like clueing "Oregon" (#15) with "One of the coldest states in the US".

Just awful.

Anonymous 6:43 PM  

The clue for Autocorrect was utterly disappointing! Given Autocorrect's universally hillarous status for generating real and often completely embarassing and misconstrued lingustic boners is legendary - all they could come up was with pie=pieces?!? Editor must have toned something down...

Masked and Anonymous 7:09 PM  

yep. Kinda hard.
After 2 weeks on the road, without solvin any NYTPuzs, a SatPuz solvequest was a pretty tough re-intro.
Had to do a MonPuz afterwards, to get my nerve back.

staff weeject pick: LEI. Its clue suckered m&e into wantin UKE, first. Lost valuable nanoseconds.

Thanx for the rude reawakenin, Mr. McCarty dude. Nice job. Enjoyed bein chewed up by the Jaws of Themelessness.

Masked & Anonymo6Us


**gruntz**

JC66 7:44 PM  

@M&A

Welcome back. Not only were you missed, people were concerned. Next time, you might want to give us a heads-up.

mmorgan 8:04 PM  

Just finished Sunday and I think it's terrific. Can't wait to find out if Rex hated it.

Anonymous 8:14 PM  

Reading this was the first time I realized that esterc was Ester-C. Until now I knew it was the answer, but had no idea what it was.
This one had everything to be annoying, foreign words in a language I don’t speak, names of actors from shows I’ve never seen, and not only a geography clue, but one that specifically refers to a lake and the answer is a sea.

Alexander 9:29 PM  

My girlfriend is obsessed with UBE so that one was an absolute gimme for me. One of about three or four in the whole dang puzzle. The clue that peeved me the most though was red emoji with fangs. I knew the emoji it meant. Further I knew that that emoji is an Oni, a creature from Japanese folklore. But that didn’t fit. Finally I caved and googled the emoji and see that it’s commonly referred to as “Japanese ogre.” I can’t say I like it. It feels like calling the taco emoji a “Mexican sandwich”. It’s a taco, and the Oni is an Oni.

Pretty much everything was slow in coming, slowest time in weeks.

Alexander 9:31 PM  

Also, to all those concerned by “Horseflesh,” while I agree it’s an unpleasant term it is indeed a term used to describe one’s livestock. Nothing to do with eating them. It’s equivalent to “cattle” I suppose.

dgd 9:58 PM  

To be fair, it is the toughest day of the week. Also uke is too easy for a Saturday though I didn’t think of that myself until I got the correct answer. The actual answer is a bit of a stretch but I like overtly misleading clues, at least when I finally get the answer!
Anyway, I found my own place for a dnf As Rex said, if one thoughtlessly put in pahleaze and one is doing it on paper, and one doesn’t know ube from abe one has a dnf. Oh well.

Anonymous 9:59 PM  

I had the same thought.

Anonymous 10:06 PM  

Inhere is a perfectly legitimate word and I s anything but nonsense

Anonymous 10:31 PM  

Not in current American usage but most definitely an old term for horses.

Penna Resident 10:17 PM  

i like ryans puzzles, and did all the ones on his site last year. this one had maybe one too many proper nouns, but it was a proper noun that saved me today. was struggling with the NW corner cycling through RIGA (wrong sea) DOHA (wrong sea) then remembered BAKU which allowed me to discern UKE/LEI. being a competition chess player in the 80s helps with those eastern europe capitals. also the fact that redactle last week had turkmenistan which is on the east of the caspian (solved in 1 guess).

if you havent tried redactle-unlimited you should. it seems impossible the first time you do it but now i solve it half the time without google.

kitshef 10:35 PM  

For a RM puzzle, felt I did well. Had to mentally run the alphabet on the second letter of AYE.

Burma Shave 3:20 PM  

BLAME HEAT

LANA is a RAYOFLIGHT,
RARE and COMPLETE FORALL TO SEE.
We MADELOVE FORALL the night,
"FOR SESSIONS OF thhe FLESH, USEME."

--- STAN BATTLE

Anonymous 5:34 PM  

One of the hardest puzzles so far this year. NW corner was the last to fall and took a long time to solve.

Anonymous 5:39 PM  

I too had AgE instead of AYE. HOYEON was a complete WOE so that crossing is a nasty Natick and the editor should have expunged it. My rationale is that “age” is often mentioned in an obituary. Thus, the clue - Word said in passing? - seemed to imply passing as in death and maybe obits.

Anonymous 6:48 PM  

@NYEDMD 6:37pm:
I was just on the Ester-C site and am currently looking at some at my local Walgreens, and it indeed is also a brand.
Also, because of shrinkage since 1960, the Aral Sea is considered a saline lake.
You're batting 0 for 2.
Google before you leap.

spacecraft 7:13 PM  

DNF: that impossible NW again! Come on, I know it's Saturday, but you couldn't find a better LANA than THAT?? Unknowable! And ESTERC is a "big" (???) brand? Can't be that big, I never heard of it. And of course, a letter add-on, which sours me on it anyway. And that "strung" clue: oh brother! This is a constructor who doesn't WANT his puzzle solved. Well, you got your wish.

Wordle six, second in a row. Not my finest weekend.

Diana, LIW 8:43 PM  

As is often the case, a few names helped me out to a complete finish. Not bad on a Saturday.

Diana, LIW

Anonymous 9:20 PM  

The NW was a bitch.....

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