Journalist Skeeter in the Harry Potter books / SUN 7-10-22 / Artless nickname / Roman emperor after Nero and Galba / Rocker John whose surname sounds like a leafy vegetable / Defunct company of accounting fraud fame / God whose name sounds almost like the ammunition he uses / Movement championed by the Silence Breakers / New York resting place for Mark Twain

Sunday, July 10, 2022

Constructor: Christina Iverson and Scott Hogan

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: "Movin' On Up" — "ON" at the end of one familiar phrase is "moved" "up" and attached to the end of another familiar phrase directly above it—the "ON"-ing and de-"ON"-ing create wacky phrases, which are clued wackily (i.e. "?"-style)

Theme answers:
  • 'TIS THE SEAS-- (74D: Response to "Why art thou queasy?") / FRUIT BATON (3D: Banana wielded by a maestro in a pinch?)
  • STORE COUP-- (83D: Retail takeover scheme?) / WARM-UP TOON (6D: Animated short before a Pixar movie?)
  • BOXING LESS-- (76D: What Amazon retirees enjoy most?) / TRASH CANON (9D: Give a scathing review of a major camera brand?)
  • HEART SURGE-- (78D: Result of love at first sight?) / TACO BARON (13D: Mexican street food mogul?)
  • WELCOME WAG-- (79D: What a dog greets its returning family with?) / MAIN DRAGON (16D: Smaug, in "The Hobbit"?)
Word of the Day: John CALE (20A: Rocker John whose surname sounds like a leafy vegetable) —

John Davies Cale OBE (born 9 March 1942) is a Welsh musician, composer, singer, songwriter and record producer who was a founding member of the American rock band the Velvet Underground. Over his six-decade career, Cale has worked in various styles across rockdroneclassicalavant-garde and electronic music.

He studied music at Goldsmiths CollegeUniversity of London, before relocating in 1963 to New York City's downtown music scene, where he performed as part of the Theatre of Eternal Music and formed the Velvet Underground. Since leaving the band in 1968, Cale has released 16 solo studio albums, including the widely acclaimed Paris 1919 (1973) and Music for a New Society (1982). Cale has also acquired a reputation as an adventurous record producer, working on the debut albums of several innovative artists, including the Stooges and Patti Smith. (wikipedia)

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Something about the verticality of this theme was mildly disorienting. The other disorienting thing was that not only did the long Down themers have "?" clues, but the very first long Across had a "?" clue as well, meaning that all three of the first long answers I encountered had "?" clues, so I had no idea what the theme was doing or which way it was going. That is, STUD FARMS (23A: Where some stable relationships form?) really looked like it was a theme answer, somehow, so ...  yeah, disorienting, as I said. Somehow the first themer that I actually got in full was "TIS THE SEAS!"; I had picked up the "ON" at the end of FRUIT BATON, but did not yet know that was the answer. When I saw the "ON" and recalled that the title of the puzzle was "Movin' On Up," I immediately went down to the longish answer just below the "ON" and, noticing it too was a "?" clue, figured the "ON" had been moved "up" ... so this lower themer would be lacking the "ON" (where the upper themer had gained it). I did not expect that literally every themer would have the "ON" either taken from or added to its tail end, but that's what ended up happening, making it very easy to just put "ON"s into all the upper themers while also imagining them missing from the lower ones. Solving it felt pretty programmatic. Some of the wackiness landed—I liked "'TIS THE SEAS" and WELCOME WAG and the idea of a TACO BARON (whom I wanted to be a TAPA (?) BARON at first). But there wasn't enough cleverness or hilarity here to sustain a Sunday-length solve. This is always the challenge of Sunday—something that might, theoretically, delight in a 15x15 becomes kind of a drag when carried out over an entire 21x21. And the fill wasn't making any friends today either, so after Saturday's grueling but carefully crafted masterpiece, this felt much more conventional, and was something of a let-down. 


There are a lotta "Why?"s in this grid. Like, why are there two "UP"s in the grid, especially in a puzzle where "UP" is in the title and relevant to the whole concept? One of the "UP"s is even in a themer (WARM-UP TOON) (the other is in ACTS UP). Why isn't there a second question mark in the clue for "'TIS THE SEAS!" (74D: Response to "Why art thou queasy?")—you need one "?" for the normal interrogative, but you need another to cue the thematic wackiness. All the other themers get wacky "?"s at the end, that one needs one as well. More whys. Why would you needlessly add yet more Harry Potter content (RITA) to a puzzle that already has a necessarily Pottery answer (SNAPE)?! There are a million (give or take) ways to clue RITA, so why are you leaning into the Rowlingverse, exactly? (95A: Journalist Skeeter in the Harry Potter books). Yuck. Why is there an "ON" in a Down answer that does *not* move "up"? (15D: Defunct company of accounting fraud fame => ENRON). And lastly (I think), why is there a (horrible) singular SCAD (114D: Large amount) when you could've just made it a SCAM? Maybe SCAM or TEEM is already in the grid somewhere and I'm just not seeing it, but oof, singular SCAD, just say 'no,' esp. when it's easy to say 'no.' Oh, one more why—why is the clue on MILAN [Where 122-Across can be found] when 122-Across is merely SCALA. It is super-awkward to tell me to look at an answer and then not have the answer itself be enough—the answer is just a partial. You need to read the clue *and* the answer to make the MILAN clue make sense. Ungainly. Don't do this. Not worth it. 


No significant mistakes to speak of today. I had Smaug as a REAL DRAGON at first. Balked at DAGNABIT because I thought it had two "B"s. Balked at BROUHAHA because I thought it had two "O"s. Wasn't sure if it was BRIER or BRIAR. Had MAD before WAY (94D: Very, colloquially). Took (seemingly) forever for me to figure out why STU was right for 66A: Artless nickname? (take the "art" out of "Stuart" and you get STU). I kinda wish the clue on NIGHT had started with [When repeated...] (99A: "Sweet dreams!" => "NIGHT!"). That's all I got in the way of commentary today.


Hey, I need to remind you that another installment of the Boswords Crossword Tournament is headed your way later this month. Or, if you're local, maybe you're headed its way (it's in person *and* online this time) (in-person at The Roxbury Latin School in West Roxbury, MA). Anyway, here's the info from tourney organizer John Lieb:
Registration is now open for the Boswords 2022 Summer Tournament, which will be held on Sunday, July 24. This event will be both In-Person and Online. Solvers can compete individually or in pairs. To register, to see the constructor roster, and for more details, go to www.boswords.org, where past tournament puzzles are also available for purchase.
Take care. See you tomorrow (or next week, if you're one of those Sundays-only folks)

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. I was so very much thrown by the clue on WAS (79A: Second word of many a limerick) since the main limerick I know begins "There once WAS a man from Nantucket..." —with WAS in the third position.

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109 comments:

Joaquin 12:09 AM  

The clue for seven-nine across
Almost threw me for a loss
"There once WAS" makes three
But "There WAS" set me free
And I filled in the rest like a boss

Ken Freeland 12:31 AM  

No, no, no! Sorry, Rex, but I think you're just being too nitpicky here. Far from finding the themers disorienting because vertical rather than horizontal, I found it a refreshing change of pace. (I suppose the constructors could have made it horizontal and called it "move on over," but why bother?) The theme was original, well executed (if occasionally a bit quirky), the modest PPP was well covered by good crossings, and it was just fun. I `m giving it five stars and calling it a night!

jae 2:04 AM  

Easy-medium. My biggest problems were pub before BAR CRAWLS and the CHINUA/AURELIA cross (however, with golden in the clue it had to start with AU) both of which were WOEs. Reasonably smooth, clever, and mildly amusing, liked it.

Gary Jugert 2:10 AM  

To ON or not to ON... 'twill provoketh the queasy.

After yesterday's "us four are soo smart and all y'all are dumb" piece of garbage, it's nice to return to something gracious without the stench of smugness polluting the neighborhood. Experienced solvers will probably cry about today being boring and easy, but you'd think they'd be looking elsewhere other than the MAIN DRAG(ON) for a challenge. They are soo smart after all.

Lots of words. Kinda cute. Easy enough for me with no need for Uncle G. With so much short stuff, you'd expect more dreck, but the moments of levity kept coming and the fresh aroma of ON wafted through the fill.

Yays:

STUD FARMS... gross. Unless maybe you're the stud, and let's face it, by being here, WE'RE NOT.

AURELIA is a wonderful name, even better after the clue.

EVIL EYE is always a winner.

OREOS clued properly.

SNAPE... Harry Potter is #1! And RITA too. Harry Potter is #1!

BROUHAHA, DAGNABIT, WELCOME WAG, TRASH CANON and BOXING LESS (har).

Thank you crossworld for previously teaching me OOLONGS and URIAH.

1A an emoji. Love it.

Boos:

HARD R? Wha??

Uniclues:

1 When the beauty of charcuterie causes the guests to weep.
2 Site of a 1925 cowboy fight.
3 Guitar playing minion, with caveman like terseness, explains he owns the pork BBQ instead of the minion claiming said BBQ.
4 The Golden One couldn't help being sassy.
5 What a fiction editor probably does.
6 Young beanstalk climber is rarin' to go.
7 "You'll be able to fit more in me."

1 TEARS AT EDAM BROUHAHA
2 ART DECO DENIM OCTAGON
3 STU RIB, NOT HIS
4 RESPECT TAXED AURELIA
5 FLOSSES TALES I'D SAY
6 DESTINED GIANT EAGER
7 TRASH CAN ON BOXING LESS

OffTheGrid 2:11 AM  

I saw the clue for 1A and closed the tab. No thanks on this one.

Melrose 2:21 AM  

Hmmm. Finished it without errors but didn't fully get the theme until reading Rex, thought I was just adding "on" in various answers. Meh. Whatever.

BDJ 3:50 AM  

I'm surprised the emoji was left without comment.

Emoji have very poor browser support since, unlike actual images, there's no alternate text for screen readers to read what the emoji images are supposed to mean.

Using emoji without any contextual way to tell what it is and without providing a text description is very poor practice for accessibility.

For those that need it, some browsers have plugins which replace emoji with the canonical Unicode text although they don't always work well. Hopefully, soon, browsers will start coming with global toggles to simply replace emoji automatically.

Conrad 4:55 AM  


Sorry, @Ken Freeland, but I’m on Team Rex here. Today is one of those rare days that I agree totally with OFL. Well, the missing second “?” didn’t bother me, but that was minor. No non-typo overwrites, no cheats. Easy side of Medium for me.

Colin 5:51 AM  

This is some clever construction, but I essentially did this as a themeless. I stared and stared at my completed puzzle for a while before figuring out the theme. At first, I thought "OK, you tack on ON to some answers"... but then wondered why there were other "?" clues. I have to agree with Rex that the appearance of other "ON" and "UP" (non-theme) answers sorta throws this grid off. Hung up with "HARDR" and "CHINUA" areas for a while.

Congratulations on your debut, Scott! I'm up to three submissions, so I have a ways to go ;)

bocamp 6:08 AM  

Thx, Christina & Scott; very clever Sun. puz! Right ON! :)

Med++

Tough solve, but fair crosses pretty much all the way.

Loved the ON moving up theme. :)

Had a careless dnf with OUTRa / aTHO.

A most enjoyable, challenging adventure! :)
___
Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Pedantic Pete 6:47 AM  

Banana is an herb. You could look it up.

Anonymous 6:47 AM  

AURELIA is from Latin, not Greek.

Shirley F 6:54 AM  

Speaking of the Velvet Underground and John CALE, there's an exhibit at the Lincoln Center library in NYC of Lou Reed's archives, with many recordings, posters, photographs, and writings. No admission charge and it will run until March 2023.

JD 7:05 AM  

Hard R? There was a Roman emperor named Otho? What Amazon Retirees Enjoy Most (either being a gazillionaire or working in the warehouse and being underpaid)?

Some of this was in my wheelhouse and some was in but then out again. Rebrand(s), my best thing, so … great. OTOH, I once fell in love at absolute first sight but it was more like a brain bomb than a Heart Surge. Oh Hi, I love you. Oh Gee, I mean nice to meet you. The wedding was cancelled a year later when the heat cooled.

Some was pulling bits and pieces from the ol’ brain attic. Like, Smaug is a dragon (see this fascinating video* of Benedict Cumberbatch playing the part), Main on crosses.

Holdups were things like the P from Panic signaling the hopping lamp and hanging onto Igor too long before getting Inga. Pub Crawls.

Nomads aren’t Drifters, “A nomad is a member of a community without fixed habitation who regularly moves to and from the same areas.” Read the wiki. Hunters and gatherers know where the good stuff is and when it’s there. It takes real intelligence.

The rest was rummaging through the ol’ brain attic. A Sunday I could stick with.

** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXN9IHrnVVU

H. Gunn 7:11 AM  

Of all the ways to clue BAD, the choice was made to use a serial child rapist

There is something very wrong here. Disgusting, actually.

Lewis 7:26 AM  

What a clever, fun, and strong theme, with such a pitch-perfect revealer in “Movin’ On Up”!

Most themes involve one trick that applies to all the theme answers, but this one did double duty, where during half the time the letters “on” are removed, and during the other half, they’re added on, so this was two puzzles for the price of one. And worth the price of admission was [Response to “Why art though queasy?”] for “TIS THE SEAS”.

I liked ROFL, AMUSE and the end of BROUHAHA being nicely balanced by SOLEMN. And the cross of TOMB and a backward A SLAB made me think of “headstone”.

NYT debut puzzles (as this is for Scott Hogan) have been rife in the last couple of years, but I still get excited each time one rolls around. Inside, I feel joy for the constructor, for whom this has to be such a thrill, and, as a solver, I’m amped that a new voice has been added to the quilt of possibilities that will show up in future puzzles.

WTG Scott, and props to you, Christina, for your mentoring and your expertise in the making of this lovely puzzle. Thank you both!

Z 7:31 AM  

Just No on the MILAN clue. The rule is what is in the grid is all you need and here you need part of the clue and what is in the grid. Editing gaffe.

It’s Sunday. It slogs. Agree with Rex on the 15x15 v 21x21.

Lewis 7:44 AM  

A PPP (Post-Puzzle Puzzle) inspired by today’s theme:

Can you think of a word that ends with “ti” to which you can add “on” at the end, to make a new word ending in “tion”?

And, in the same vein, can you think of a word that ends with “si” to which you can add “on” at the end, to make a new word ending in “sion”?

I’ll post the answers mid-afternoon. If you think of one or both, please don’t be a spoiler and post the answer(s), but you’re welcome to post to say you figured it out.

Son Volt 7:44 AM  

Rex is spot on that when Sunday themes don’t support the larger grid area we have problems. Today is one of those days - this should have been an early week theme - even then thought it would have struggled.

I ended up solving as a themeless - overall fill is fine. I liked BROUHAHA, CAT NAP and BAR CRAWLS. Should’ve held back on the HARD R x OTHO cross, OH GEE and the plurals. Always thought aureus was Roman.

The only URIAH Heep I know

This wasn’t for me.

smalltowndoc 7:56 AM  

Enjoyable theme that took me a little while to get; it started as a themeless for me.

Worst answer of the day: OR DOC. Say what? Where I’m from, we call them surgeons.

Z 8:08 AM  

So close.

Wordle 386 2/6*

🟩⬛🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

mmorgan 8:14 AM  

The themers were groany-cute and the construction was clever, but for whatever reason, I didn't care much for this. No special reason, I guess, but the fill was not aligned with my wheelhouse vibe.

"[omg haha!!]" for 1A?!? In AcrossLite, it was "[?][?]" -- not very helpful!

Allow me to indulge myself and re-post a comment I made late last night [pace, moderators] -- only three people saw it and it's very important to me personally:

I grew up in RI, left there in 1971, and have missed CLAMCAKEs nearly every day since. Never in my life did I think I would ever see CLAMCAKE in a NYT puzzle. I'm only overstating this a bit, but now I can die happy.

SouthsideJohnny 8:36 AM  

I actually enjoyed wandering around the grid and got a few aha’s from the theme entries. Quite a few guesses on the emperors, the wizard and the like - I ended up with a dnf at CHINUA crossing AURELIA cuz I don’t care about the trivia and didn’t feel like entering in random letters to see what sticks.

Nice to see Rex label one that I found on the easy side as medium - although I suspect that the trivial PPP count was probably on the low side today (or maybe I had lucky guesses) which always make for a better solving experience from my perspective.


BobL 8:50 AM  

Pretty darn clever.

Nancy 8:51 AM  

"What a clever, fun, and strong theme, with such a pitch-perfect revealer in “Movin’ On Up”!"

You kept me going, Lewis! I retrieved the puzzle that I'd just embedded deep in my wall, brushed off the plaster, and tried again. I knew I'd missed something.

And I had. I'd already figured out the missing "ON"s below, but not the added "ON"s above. I was approaching both halves of the puzzle the same way. Once I'd worked that out, this difficult and not especially enjoyable puzzle started make some sense.

You see, I'd been thinking WARM-UP TOONON. And FRUIT BATONON. Don't ask. But one of my problems is that I've never heard of a FRUIT BAT. And I was thinking of some sort of WARM UP exercise, so that WARM UP TO as a phrase never came to mind.

What made this puzzle painful for me, though, was the surrounding fill with all the arcane pop culture. Thanks to Lewis, I did get my "Aha Moment" -- and it was a good one -- but most of the time I was gnashing my teeth as I solved this. Constructors, will you ever EVER learn that the rocker and the chant and the rapper and the Korean and the biopic and the hobbit and the duo and the novelist, etc,. etc are not adding joy to your puzzle? Once again, an excellent theme ruined by a lot of thoroughly forgettable junk.

Anonymous 8:51 AM  

I got stuck at 2D. Has anyone heard of outro? It doesn’t even pass spellcheck.

Laura 9:11 AM  

Clever theme. Lots of word play. Not too many semi-celebrities. Very enjoyable puzzle. And if it was a slow stroll to finish it, that's just more fun time. Slog would overstate the difficulty. They practically gave away the they int the title.

Thank you Christine and Scott for a pleasant Sunday stroll.

puzzlehoarder 9:46 AM  

This was one of your easier Sunday puzzles. After yesterday's ordeal it seemed childishly easy. I expected the theme to have across entries where the ON ending went verical. This turned out to be much more original. About halfway through the solve it dawned on me that the themers we're in vertical pairs and related. There wasn't much resistance prior to that but afterwards it became a ducks in a barrel solve.

Achebe is one of those clues where I can picture the answer but can't quite get it out. When the crosses gave me NUA the CHI popped right up so half a victory.

I went with PUB for 120A simply because that's what they're called but 91D just had to be DAGNABIT. I really expected 124A to be IGOR but like the rest of the puzzle the crosses were HUMANE.

There was a mini theme of pirate speak between TISTHESEA and HARDR.

Amazon retiree? That's the oxymoron of the week.

Lewis 9:47 AM  

@zed -- I never thought about using the first Wordle word that you used today. Aside from today, if you've used it before, has it been good to you?

RMK 9:52 AM  

Yup

Common in musical theater.

Kent 9:54 AM  

To Rex’s commentary I would add that here in the Midwest, though drinking establishments are typically referred to as “bars,” events like 120A are almost invariably referred to as “pub” crawls, for some reason, so that slowed me in that corner. Also appreciated the cluing of Oreos as a crossword staple.

egsforbreakfast 10:04 AM  

I reckon my godson would harpoon, or even lampoon, this puzzle for a reason. Pardon my sermon while I summon the jargon to go on.

I liked the theme idea and execution quite a bit. The fill seemed a bit choppy with no long answers. But on the whole, a real winner. Thanks Christina Iverson and congrats on your debut Scott Hogan.

Anonymous 10:11 AM  

Loved it. Cute, bouncy, and discovering the theme at 79D just made me smile. Most fun I’ve had in a Sunday in quite some time. Nicely done.

RooMonster 10:17 AM  

Hey All !
I didn't take @M&A's advise about "when in doubt, throw in a U", and ended up with a DNF. Argh! The U in question? The Natick of A_RELIA/CHIN_A. Could've been any one of the 26 letters, quite possibly even a rune. 😁 I call Shenanigans!

Actually had one other miss, HArIDIC/TISTHErEAS. Har-idic indeed. Didn't know what rEAS we're, but it worked as "rEASON". With the phrasing of the clue, though "why not?"

Tough in spots, a few writeovers that I can never remember on a SunPuz, being its size. Neat theme idea.

Never heard of the FLOSSES dance, had naenaeS at first. I can only image that dance as putting your hands by your mouth and moving them back and forth together like one flossing their teeth. That dance gets the EVIL EYE.

OOLONG, it's been too long. Har. Still waiting on OMOO. Had that ITOO the other day... No direct ROOs today, but a few Boggled ones. (Right off the get-go in NW corner.) I AMUSE myself easily.

yd -4, should'ves - seemingly all, maybe 3 😁
Duo 37, missed 1-4-6-13-24
**Duotrigordle Spoiler Alert**
My missed 24 was ridiculous. Had T_NG_, with the A and O in yellow, and of course put in TANGO. How in tarnation is it the other way?!

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Birchbark 10:23 AM  

Some kind of change, some kind of spinning away -- of all the John CALE tunes @Rex could pick, it's my favorite. The relationship of the drawing to the changing light over the course of a day is a really interesting structure for a song, across that light pop chord progression. It's from the Brian Eno/John CALE album "Wrong Way Up," which is full of great songs. The earnest, quirky video made me laugh.

I saw John CALE at the Fine Line in Minneapolis twenty-some years ago and had a table quite close. He played at a grand piano, as well as the cello. It was around the time that he and Lou Reed did their Andy Warhol elegiac "Songs for Drella" album. Really good.

CarynR 10:49 AM  

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are going to end your themers with a "?", there should not be a non-themed clue that also ends with a "?". As Rex mentioned, 23A is just not fair to solvers. It's long enough in length to assume it's one of the themed clues. I got the FARM portion quickly but struggled for a very long time trying to figure out how the "on" (or lack thereof) could fit.

Carola 10:49 AM  

I will briefly enthuse: I loved this puzzle, the idea, the execution the wit. Since I solved from top to bottom, I didn't get how ON was movin' up until TIS THE SEAS, which had me flummoxed ("SEASON doesn't fit?!"), until the "Ohhhhh!." For me, that raised the theme from "cute" to "genius." Also plenty more to like between the STUD FARMS and BAR CRAWLS - how often do we get a winner like BROUHAHA?

Do-overs: Rag before RIB, Tense before TAXED. Help from previous puzzles: OUTRO, OTHO.

andrew 10:58 AM  

Didn’t fully get it till I went to xword write up - saw the added ONs but not the missing ones. Made me appreciate the puzzle much more (HEARTSURGE seemed especially ridiculous without the add-ON).

Got CALE right, though I was thinking JJ CALE. Given that I did this After Midnight, guess that makes sense.

Well-constructed challenging puzzle!

Anonymous 11:07 AM  

Loved the 'Artless nickname?' but Otho/Outro Oucho!

Joe Dipinto 11:34 AM  

Thank you for not subjecting us to "Hallelujah" for the nine millionth time. Here's the other leafy-vegetable guy.

I can see how at face value this would seem like a good theme *idea*, but making a good *puzzle* out of it is something else. Mostly the resulting answers here are kinda dullsville. The only one I really like is WELCOME WAG, and I'll allow that 'TIS THE SEAS is amusingly goofy.

I also noticed the two UPs in the grid; having one in a theme answer is just plain wrong. Not too shocked by the MILAN clue— just typical carelessness from the editing staff. Also, OH HI is not necessarily tepid —I frequently hear people say it in a "what-a-surprise-how-delightful-to-run-into-you!" tone of voice.

Anyway...as a silver lining, 16d reminded me of this song.

JD 11:36 AM  

@Birchbark, If you ever decide to write a book please let me know. Some deeply satisfying writing.

@Anon 8:51, Yes, ran across Outro when I was developing podcasts and needed to choose Intro/Outro music clips. Spell check probably wouldn't recognize (@Zed, fill in a % here) that passes muster in the NYT crossword.

In fact, it's Spelling Bee doesn't recognize a word that was used in its crossword just days ago (I knew I'd work that in some way today!).

@Carola, You're in the running for Phrase of the Year with, "I will briefly enthuse..."

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Liveprof 11:49 AM  

OUTRO was accepted in a Sunday Spelling Bee several weeks ago.

***********
On 59D:

So this guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, "Doc, you have to help me. I've developed an obsessive fear that I'm turning into a moth."

The doc says "A moth?"

The guy says, "Yes, a moth."

So the doc says, "Well, first of all, why did you choose me from all the doctors in town?"

And the guy says, "Your light was on."

Badda boom!

I learned from James Caan's obit in the Times that he contributed "badda bing" to the lexicon, which he ad-libbed as Sonny Corleone.

sixtyni yogini 11:52 AM  

For a Sunday, I didn’t hate it!
Went fast and the theme was kinda fun.
No more a MOR-ON. ROFL
😂😂😂😂
🤗🦖🦖🦖🦖🤗

Mary McCarty 12:15 PM  

Editors should be flogged for thinking AURELIUS comes from Greek, not Latin. The Greek root for “golden” is CHRYS- as in “Chrysanthemum”.=“golden flower”. That may seem like nitpicking to some, or inconsequential, but I bet a SCAD of cruciverbalists are familiar with both Greek and Latin, and we care as much as if you swapped “agua” for EAU.

OUTRO is just the opposite of “InTRO”, sorta slangy, so may not be in dictionaries yet.

I didn’t catch on to the -ON movement, so thought MAINDRAGON was pretty lame; the other phrases seemed legit to me. IMHO, a better title would’ve been “MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD”, since that’s what the solver had to do (move the ON “down the road/column”)

Anonymous 12:15 PM  

JD,
Outro passes muster w more than the Times’s crossword. It’s standard in TV rundowns.
I’m guessing in untelevised live events too.

pmdm 12:18 PM  

Was out most of yesterday celebrating a birthday, so I didn't get to complain about the puzzle. Today's puzzle? It fell into place once I understood the lower theme answers did not end in ON. A good puzzle. Enough said,

LEO 12:41 PM  

I thought of JJ Cale of the Oklahoma sound!

Joe Dipinto 12:48 PM  

@Mary McCarty - that really is a horrendous error. I don't even find anything online that might have given the impression AURELIA is Greek. Where did they get that from?

Also wanted to say: OR DOC? Isn't the person being clued here called a "surgeon"? Oh but SURGE-ON is in the puzzle already.

Anonymous 12:57 PM  

Mary M and Joe D,
Yes! Aurelia may be familiar to some as the mother of Caesar. If that’s not the epitome of Latin-ness I don’t know what is.

Anonymous 1:00 PM  

Live prof,
Ugh! You butchered the joke.

Everyone,
Do yourself a favor and find Norm MacDonald telling the moth joke. It’ll make your whole week.

Anonymous 1:02 PM  

Why would they unnecessarily use a Harry Potter clue for RITA ? Maybe they like JK Rowling. I like J.K. Rowling even though I respectfully disagree with her on some things. People who try and vilify her honest heartfelt opinions are the problem, not her. This is a quote from her Twitter feed today about what happens to women who speak their minds on Transgender issues: “Endless death and rape threats, threats of loss of livelihood, employers targeted, physical harassment, family address posted online with picture of bomb-making manual aren't 'mean comments'. If you don't yet understand what happens to women who stand up on this issue, back off.” Obviously she is immune from some of these threats, but not all. There is a reason there is a largely silent majority on this issue.

JD 1:18 PM  

@Anon 12:15, I going for sarcasm but I forgot I'm not good at it anymore. I now see there's a typo in that part of my post, leading to even more confusion. But we'll blame that on day drinking.*

*A lie. I'm not good at proof reading anymore eithr.

Anders 1:21 PM  

I object to the clue for “Hard R”. This is not a distinct MPAA movie rating, it’s just a slang phrase that has gained currency to be more descriptive than the R rating alone would be. I understand it - some films get R ratings for a few curse words, but if someone describes it as a “Hard R” you know it has genuinely disturbing stuff (usually gory horror) that unquestionably merits the R and that’s useful info for parents. But it’s not a special rating.

Anonymous 1:22 PM  

Yes! Left this blank too long because AUR- isn’t Greek

Anonymous 1:26 PM  

I was always under the impression that Aurelius/a was from Latin “golden” aureus; “gold” aurum. The Greek word for gold is chrysos as in chryselephantine.

jc 1:32 PM  

I expected the target of 122A to be in the same language as the clue to 122A. That is all.

Anonymous 1:40 PM  

There once was a Hotel on Nantucket... https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/09/us/nantucket-fire-veranda-house-hotel/index.html

Visited the Island only once, back in the 70s, but tracked Covid there for a bit at the beginning. One of the real problems with that kind of island life: no where to run to. And no co-operating fire departments.

SharonAK 1:46 PM  

Did someone mention obscure ppp. I agree and it made the puzzle hard for me. I knew 65D China Achebe, but thought many would find him as obscure as I do the various scientists from the early last century that are clued from time to time.
At least he and they seem important and worth knowing, unlike the rock musicians and athletes, of which there are so many hundreds
I did think the theme was fun and impressive once I caught the "on" moving up. And I can't imagine why Rex found it disorienting.
I I found it refreshing and, of course, perfect with the title.

@H. gunn 7:11.
There is something wrong - with your mind, if you only remember a pop icon whose songs and style and image filled our world for so many years as did Michael Jackson as a "serial rapist".

Anonymous 2:04 PM  

The banana plant is indeed an herb, but the yellow part you peel and eat is, in fact, a fruit, the seed of the herb plant.

Anonymous 2:07 PM  

birchbark@10:23
The quirky video is from Wes Anderson Moonrise Kingdom.

Anonymous 2:08 PM  

Thank you for this info!

Ken Freeland 2:29 PM  

Also common in podcasts... You have your "intro" and "outro" music

Ken Freeland 2:42 PM  

Revising my rating to only four stars because I recognize OTHO/HARDR as a natick. I had OTTO. I 've never heard of either of these PPP answers, and I'm a pretty dedicated student of history - - of contemporary movie ratings not so much.

Lewis 2:51 PM  

ANSWERS TO THE 7:44 POST-PUZZLE PUZZLE:

My answers are:
1. ILLUMINATI and ILLUMINATION
2. TORSI and TORSION

There may be more answers and if you have additional ones, please feel free to post!

Anonymous 3:11 PM  

I was completely shocked to see HARDR, that's inexcusable ignorance on the part of the editors. I don't care what it used to mean, it's extremely offensive now

Birchbark 3:14 PM  

@JD (11:36, 1:18) -- Thanks for the kind words. But be warned that if I write a book, I may ask you to proofread it --

@Anon (2:07) re Moonrise Kingdom/Spinning Away -- very interesting. One more for the list of films to watch.

thefogman 3:22 PM  

Ditto what Rex said plus how does a puzzle get past WS’s desk with ORDOC, ROFL, OTHO and HARDR in it? A SCAD of other things are BAD, so BAD IDSAY they belong in WS’s TRASHCAN not the Sunday NYTXW which is supposed to be a TREAT. Start off new constructors on Mondays instead.

Anonymous 3:40 PM  

There once was a genius named Joaquin
Who was always on the puzz scene
His comments were witty
E'en when the puzz was shitty
He nailed it without being mean

Jen 3:42 PM  

Never going to love a puzzle with “uteri”. Just ugh.

Masked and Anonymous 4:00 PM  

@Lewis 2:51pm: Nice runt puz.

Based on that there recent hybrid dog-breed-of-mystery experience, was thinkin that DAGNABITON mighta been one of them "on bottom" themers, pre-movin'.

Puztheme mcguffin was a bit tricky to figure out, at our house. Unwittinly made the "mistake" of solvin all of the upper puzgrid half parts first. That left M&A wonderin what exactly was "up" with all the "on top" themers. Kept tryin to move the ON upward, somewhere within the TRASHCANON answer. Lost precious nanoseconds. TRON ASHCAN was neat, but just didn't seem all that "in the language".
Sooo … nice ahar moment, when STORECOUP(ON) came under closer M&A inspection.

staff weeject pick: NOT. Cuz it's a potential Movin' On Backwards themer. Primo STU clue, btw.

Fave free-from-theme Across stuff: STUDFARMS and its clue. BROUHAHA. SENDHELP. LATESHOW.
ORDOC's desperation was also nice.
Deadly no-know crossin meat meetin: AURELIA/CHINUA.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Mssrs. Iverson & Hogan dudes. And congratz to Mr. Hogan on his half-debut which is sorta like a full debut, since it was a SunPuz-sized one. QED.

Masked & Anonymo11Us


**gruntz**

Smith 4:16 PM  

TISTHESEAS! SENDHELP! WE'RE saved! (Prologue to The Tempest, xword style).

Finally back doing puzz on paper again, so nice (no more streak but that's ok). Thought today was more easy than medium.

To someone, a day or two ago, re Washington airport, ☺️☺️☺️ you're so right! No idea why I was positive it was DC and plunked in REAGAN immediately. Sorry for my comment!

Georgia 4:33 PM  

Wow, I thought this was a fantastic concept and clever cluing. Great Sunday puzzling for me.

Joe in Newfoundland 4:37 PM  

Is there more than one dragon in The Hobbit?
"OUTRO" is not the opposite of "intro": "intro" is real Latin, "OUTRO" is a false creation.
The NYTs puzzles, which I enjoy, are turning into cryptic crosswords. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it smells of an incapacity to make or edit a real crossword.

Anonymous 4:49 PM  

Got the ONs but just no interest to go ON.
Not UP to it. Getting old, no time to waste on slogs, time marches on, need to go fast to slow down (Albert stuff).
Now Quantum Mechanics lectures on YouTube from MIT. Videos from ACTUAL lectures and free! Turns out a crossword answer is not there until you write it in or something because it’s only probable.

I don’t know. The wave function “collapses” because once you know where something is, it’s position is no longer probable but rather known, ergo no need for a probability function.
More fun than todays puzzle. Is a puzzle a puzzle when nobody cares about it?

dgd 4:59 PM  

I saw it. I am a life long Rhode Islander, so I laughed when I realized the answer. But as I said yesterday, it is a singular of convenience.

Anonymous 5:11 PM  

How do I sign in with a “name” instead of anonymous? I did it once but somehow was shoved to Anon.

Anonymous 5:28 PM  

@5:11

just click the dot that says 'name/url' then type in whatever name you want in the box. you can have as many names as you have personalities. the page will remember them and give you a drop-down menu next time you go to submit. I have more then a dozen. my shrink says it's a small step in the write direction.

jae 6:13 PM  

@Smith 4:16 - I think the reason you immediately thought DC is the same reason I did. People typically refer to airports using the name of the city where they are located not the state, e.g. no one I’ve talked to says Ohio airport when they are discussing the Cleveland-Hopkins airport.

Son Volt 7:03 PM  

@Lewis 2:51p - wonderful stuff - my wife and I spent a few glorious hours at the beach today discussing your puzzle. ILLUMINATI jumped out first - didn’t even think about TORSI.

The others we kicked around were LITERATI, CASTRATI (although I winced at that) and OBLIGATI.

I haven’t checked if these are valid but thank you.

Anonymous 7:38 PM  

Ohhi and ohgee in the same puzzle? Oh shame!

Z 7:54 PM  

**potential wordle spoiler alert**

@Lewis - This was the first time I used that word, so I've had pretty good luck every time I've used it. I do tend to go for four consonant starters and was inspired by UTERI today.

**/end Alert**

Hmmm... Seems somebody took the "it's all Greek to me" quip a step too far.

@Anon who wants a name - Or sign in with a Google Account. You can then create a profile and a nom de blog. The biggest benefit of having a sign in is that you never have to prove you are not a robot.

Bass 7:59 PM  

Anyone else have problems with the app? On Android, first it fed me a mini, then it did give me the full (maxi?) Sunday, but locked into my progress about halfway through and any further I got disappeared about every 5 minutes. Weird. Logged on to the website today and the puzzle was complete (which I did not complete). Weirder. Oh well.

FWIW, Nantucket got mutual aid -- on a ferry -- in less than three hours, that's actually pretty impressive!

Cyclist227 8:26 PM  

I really disliked this puzzle and theme.

Anonymous 8:54 PM  

@Zed:

I've never been silly enough to use my Google ID, my blogs and such. Too many nasty people. I've always been a mouse, mostly. Some times, if the mood strikes, I'll make up a name that fits the topic. It's been ages since I've had to pass through the Robot Gate. Although, there have been times when it was every. single. time. By that I mean, not just checking the box, but having to do the Captcha rebus picture; click every bus and such.

jberg 9:33 PM  

Like probably 80% of you I saw a 4-letter emperor starting with O and put in OTtO, even while grumbling that while he was indeed 'after' Nero and Galba, it was about 4 centuries after, so hardly a fair clue. Eventually I saw it had to be OTHO, and looked him up after solving. He ruled for a couple of months during the year of the 4 emperors, having killed his predecessor and then killing himself after losing a major battle. What a guy! Give me CHINUA Achebe, the leading figure of African anglophone literature and a HUMANE individual, every time.

Z 10:09 PM  
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CDilly52 10:14 PM  

ROFL!!! Thanks, Anonymous 3:40 pm

CDilly52 10:15 PM  

Ditto, Ken Freeland 2:42 pm

LateSolver 10:18 PM  

Just had to pause my solve to say SOOOO MUCCCHHH PPPPPPPPP. Names authors characters zheesh!! And the rest of the answers I found no joy in. It seemed forced to be hip, but missed the mark. Overall MEH.

CDilly52 10:20 PM  

@Gary Jugert 2:10 am. I love these!

Anonymous 10:33 PM  

test

Anonymous 10:37 PM  

After finishing, I never got the theme. And the stumper for me was the cross of AURELIA and CHINUA. Never hear of either, so the shared square was a random guess. Never hear the phrase 'WARMUPTOON' for the opening short, or John CALE, or a myriad of other names/terms. Also agree that WAS is typically the third word in a limerick.

Anonymous 11:06 PM  

I am outraged. ROFL is only 🤣, 😂 is lol. Real boomer editing lol

Koala 11:13 PM  

Good point. This was also just clued incorrectly. 🤣 is the emoji for rofl and 😂 is for lol

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Anonymous 8:00 AM  

Ditto

sidneyellenwade 9:16 AM  

"Outro"--Excuse me?????

I made two amusing errors--"ass" for "ash" (Butt end), and "nose" (Place for a run?) for "hose." They both work rather nicely.

kitshef 11:19 AM  

Theme is absolutely aces. Execution has some flaws - most of which Rex (and Mary McCarty) have ably pointed out - but my appreciation for the theme over-rode those flaws.

@Pedanic Pete -banana is an herb. It is also a fruit, and a plant, and a berry, and a monocot. None of these are mutually exclusive.

Anonymous 9:42 PM  

Why has nobody mentioned the glaring error of the 2010 fad dance (24 d)? The Dougie was in 2010 and the Floss wasn’t till 2017!!

Burma Shave 12:21 PM  

HIS CHILI NIGHT

WARMUP CARLA with a HEARTSURGE,
a LATESHOW of RESPECT, IHOPE,
OHGEE THE BARCRAWLS you must PURGE,
lest you're NOT DESTINED TO ELOPE.

--- ELMIRA AURELIA "EVILEYE" CALE

rondo 12:40 PM  

Pretty much did the east side first so the WELCOMEWAG showed me how the ON was movin' UP, and was the best IMO. The rest was verging on tedium.
@Anon 9:42 - The clue does NOT read . . . fad 2010's dance . . ., it reads
. . . fad 2010s dance (no apostrophe). . . which signifies any year between 2010 - 2019. Punctuation is important. Please remove head from ASH.
On a string of wordle pars of late.

Diana, LIW 3:30 PM  

Pretty much got all of it except for a name or two. go figure

Oh. The theme. It had a theme. Must go back and look. (I guess I could say I'll look it "up")

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

spacecraft 6:12 PM  

DNF. The section just below the NW corner was RIDICULOUS. OUTRO??? What, the opposite of INTRO? Puh-LEEZE. And WTF is a HARDR?? "Swing preventer of a sort?" = DOORSTOP???? Who's gonna figure THAT one out? That whole section is one inscrutable mess. To say that it's even remotely close to fair is a lie. I mean, you've got to at least give us a SHOT at it. FLOSSES? In an ad for a GAME SHOW??? Yikes!

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Anonymous 4:22 PM  

Gold is Au on the periodic table (from the Latin: aurum). This, I think should make it inferable. Totally agree on Chinua Achebe, he has stumped me one too many times, committing him to memory as prime crosswordese, hopefully, now. Cheers!

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