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Friday, July 22, 2022

Constructor: David Steinberg

Relative difficulty: Challenging (Mediumish overall, but two tiny sections stopped me cold for longish periods of time)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: CARAWAY (23D: Relative of fennel) —
1a biennial usually white-flowered aromatic Old World herb (Carum carvi) of the carrot family
2the pungent fruit of the caraway used in seasoning and medicine

  called also caraway seed (merriam-webster.com)

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Never really found my grip with this one. Something about the cluing wavelength—mainly that I was nowhere near it, at any time. Occasionally this felt like a good Friday, but that whooshing of wonderful answers, that flow, that pop pop of good surprises—that never came today. Felt like I was working for everything, and without much "aha" payoff. WHOOPEE CUSHION is kinda funny, but even there, the awkward syntax of the "?" clue made it feel a bit forced. Also, I spelled WHOOPIE like that, so that's no good. I kept waiting for something to really kickstart the party, but I kept getting just OK stuff like LEMON SAUCE and WORK OF ART and CARAWAY and BRAIN GAME—you can't fault any of those things, but there's no standout there. Very much enjoyed seeing WHITNEY HOUSTON, but that may very well be because I got that answer so much easier than most other things in this puzzle. But the real truth is I don't remember much of the top 2/3 of this puzzle. I hacked away at it, made progress, plowed through ... not terribly remarkable. But the bottom was a complete disaster, and the worst kind of disaster, which is to say that the cluing on short fill made it impossible (for me) to see, and I came to total standstills, twice (this normally doesn't happen even once on a Friday). 


The less significant standstill was in the SE, where AHOY THERE was a promising gateway to the far corner, but then ... oof. HAS A ___ (40D: Flips). Really seemed like it should be HAS A COW. The puzzle was so devoid of good colloquialisms that I thought, "ah, here we go." So ... HAS A COW. You'd think the short fill in that corner would've helped me fix that error quickly, but no. I have no idea where saffron comes from, really, and instead of the "O" from COW seeming wrong, the "R" from AHOY THERE seemed wrong, because OMAN seemed ... a plausible saffron producer (it's kinda near IRAN, is my defense) (56A: World's leading saffron producer). TEXT had an inscrutable "?" clue on it (59A: Comment from one who's all thumbs?). TAX clue was super ambiguous (53D: Line on a receipt). The FETA I've eaten doesn't usually come in "slices" (52A: Slice in a salad, maybe). Wanted CUKE there. The only answer I felt pretty sure of down there was ANT, and it wasn't helping. It was so bad that I sincerely doubted AHOY THERE, which does seem awfully ... informal. Would you really have to add "THERE"? I dunno. It was all gummed up. But eventually I pulled COW and thought and thought and then tried FIT and voilà, problem solved.


The next dead stop, though, was much longer, and caused by something much tinier (ultimately). And again, the problem is due entirely to the clue trying Very hard to be a pain in the ass. So, this is what I was looking at:


In retrospect, of course, I'm thinking "well, just write in TOY, dummy" (50D: Barbie, e.g.). But here's the problem. I actually wasn't looking at this version of the grid most of the time. What I was looking at was just the one blank, above the "O." The other blank I had confidently filled with a "C" because ACES is the only correct answer for 58A: Pros. I really don't understand trying to engineer your puzzle for difficulty in this way. You've already put in the completely absurd ORE clue right next door (one that, thank god, I knew from having solved crosswords for decades) (51D: Unit of the Swedish krona). It's like the puzzle *wants* this specific, tiny area to be a pain to get through. But the clue on AYES, I resent, mostly because it so nakedly wants you to think ACES. It's infinitely more appropriate for ACES. I don't know what my reaction was supposed to be when I found out it was AYES. "That's clever"? My reaction was "I can't believe I wasted minutes of my life for so little." I will admit that I overthought the Barbie clue, but with the kind of cluing this puzzle was throwing at you, you can't really be blamed for overthinking. My mind was racing around for other kinds of "Barbies," but after Australian barbecues, I was out of ideas. And I didn't actually see the Barbie clue until *after* the "C" was (I thought) safely nestled in place at the end, inside of ACES. But when things didn't work, I started questioning everything. I was never fully sure of "LISTEN TO ME!" I started doubting HOMES (which has its own really awkward / non-intuitive clue) (45D: Divisions of subdivisions). And POPES, ugh, once I got it, I didn't doubt it, but do they really "love" Latin? (42D: Latin lovers, officially speaking?). "Officially speaking" is doing a lot of weird and unclear work there. Eventually I patiently ran the alphabet for the Barbie clue and saw TOY and then saw AYES and then shook my head very slowly and disappointedly. If the puzzle had given me delight in the longer answers, I would resent this fussiness and over-striving in the short-fill cluing a little less (side note: there are *Eight* (8) question-mark ("?") clues in this one, which is ... a lot). But as it is, I spent almost all my time on these little disasters, and so frustration and annoyance are all I'm really left with in the end.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. an observant reader showed me something and now I'm showing you



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125 comments:

OffTheGrid 6:19 AM  

I had a good time with this one. It took some work but the fun kind. I didn't really have any quagmires like @Rex did but I've been there plenty of times. I recommend reading Mr. Steinberg's comments at xwordinfo.com.

Joaquin 6:40 AM  

Always fun to learn new stuff. I was sure I had an error at 1A as RAWR meant nothing to me. So ... unable to find my error I looked it up and found that RAWR has been around for a while. Maybe I've been around too long to be considered RAWR by anyone so that is why it is new to me.

Oh well. Perhaps in my next life ...

Ray 6:45 AM  

I finished the grid by getting RAWR via crosses, but what is it? I thought ayes (instead of aces) for pros was a good feint for a Friday. I solved this puzzle from the southeast upward and had only a few stumbles (do the town; lemon..???), but overall I enjoyed this puzzle. Not as much fun as some, but enough of a poser to fit the day.

Ray 6:54 AM  

I get it now. RAWR is an Austin Powers kind of thing.

Laura 7:07 AM  

Pleasant enough Friday, but very easy. I'm not distracted by question marks, nor do I expect crossword word usage to always match mine, in favor of other familiar phrases. So OFL's stumbles didn't stretch out my puzzle fun. Just a short Friday solve. The difficulty had climbed up a few weeks back, but I guess they are now reversing that positive correction. Soon we'll be doing Monday every day...or not doing, what's the point?

Conrad 7:21 AM  


Mediumish for me, but I had a DNF. When I see someone who is "Ooh, so sexy," what I say is "RoWR." Somehow a French óLA looked ókay to me (France is kinda near Portugal, is my defense). So today the accent grave dug my grave.

Anonymous 7:25 AM  

Super fun that Michael Jackson has the same number of letters as WHITNEY HOUSTON! Thought I had finally gotten somewhere until I didn’t.

Paul Keller 7:29 AM  

David Steinberg puzzles always seem to be in my wavelength and this one was no exception. My sense was that the clues leaned clever and humorous rather than difficult. RAWR was the last to fall, but I have definitely seen it in print and there was no doubt when it came to me.

Son Volt 7:31 AM  

Solid puzzle - not too many roadblocks. Nothing against WHITNEY but never like a long, full name taking up so much real estate. Hand up for putting in cow before FIT.

The quaking ASPEN is a beautiful tree - noisy in the breeze and found all over the upper Hudson Valley. Add WHAMO and it’s childhood all over again.

Are you real Mona Lisa or just a cold and lonely lovely WORK OF ART

Enjoyable Friday solve.

Lobster11 7:45 AM  

I guess one person's bug is another's feature. On a Friday I don't want to whoosh too much; I want to have to work for it -- even those little answers. There were a few times that the cluing seemed too clever by half, but I enjoyed the struggle.

Max 7:47 AM  

I don’t think a ray is a line. It is a line segment.

Robin 7:52 AM  

Wow, that's a really long final paragraph about two squares that gave me little to no trouble.

Anonymous 7:53 AM  

FETA is almost always crumbled or cut into small chunks, not sliced.

I'm from Pennsylvania, and maybe there are ASPENs there--apparently, they're more or less everywhere--but there is nothing typically Pennsylvanian about them. Plenty of Quakers, though.

In what world are HOMES "divisions?"

The problem with this puzzle was that the constructor created clues that let him admire his own cleverness, instead of clues that gave the solver joy. Way too much of that kind of thing these days.

Kevin 7:58 AM  

The correct version of the word is spelled ROWR. See urban dictionary https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rowr. Kept staring at TOc for Barbie and couldn’t figure out what it meant

Anonymous 7:58 AM  

I found this puzzle much easier AND much more enjoyable than yesterday's. Goes to show everyone has a different experience.

NYDenizen 8:04 AM  

Typical David Steinberg puzzle with cluing often to clever by hlf.

Anonymous 8:23 AM  

After many months away from this blog, I come back to see that Rex continues to blame the puzzle rather than his own shortcomings. Some things will never change I guess. Another solid effort from Steinberg. Enjoyed it.

Nancy 8:34 AM  

I had --ITNEY-------, confidently wrote in BRITNEY and tried to write in SPEARS, only it wasn't long enough. Could it possibly be spelled SPEARES?

Even when the -----ON came in at the end, I couldn't give up my idee fixe. Could there possibly be two enormously successful singers named BRITNEY?

I should know who had 7 consecutive #1 hits on the Billboard chart?

But HOUSTON was making itself more and more apparent and I finally said: "It's WHITNEY HOUSTON, you bleepin' dummy!!!"

Other than that, not too much difficulty for a Friday. I liked WORK OF ART, which I found hard to see because I hadn't a clue about RAWR. AHOY THERE is a cute answer for "ship-to-ship communication." I got UTTER BORES off just the double "T"s.

A word about FETA (52A). It's not a slice. It's never a slice. It will crumble completely into tiny little bits as soon as you try to slice it. I'm no cook and even I know that. Just saying.

Easier for me than many other Steinberg puzzles. Possibly due to the relative lack of proper names -- which I appreciate a lot.

angela 8:38 AM  

the one a cross cat call cluing was incredibly offensive.

Anonymous 9:00 AM  

Fastest Friday yet

Anonymous 9:00 AM  

Never have seen feta sliced myself, but the Wikipedia article on feta has a photo of a Greek salad with a slice of feta. That cheese has what appears to be a higher moisture content than what I've typically seen, so it's less crumbly than the feta I've encountered here in the US and in parts of Europe.

Fell for the ACE/AYE misdirection, trying, like Rex, to fix BBQ in there somewhere, somehow.

Had BELL before REED. Didn't get ASPEN until late in the solve, as I was thinking religious sects, as intended, and the Rockies are the first thing that comes to mind when I hear ASPEN.

Anonymous 9:01 AM  

Terrible cluing and the answers always fall flat. RAWR? You have got to be kidding. Like Goliath = SLAIN? That's just dumb trivia. Meanwhile, KHAKI is not a fabric. It's a oolor. Can't the eds get this stuff right?

Anonymous 9:06 AM  

Amy: Son Volt, thanks for putting Nat King Cole's wonderful voice in my head by quoting Mona Lisa. Really liked this puzzle. Happy Friday.

Pete 9:09 AM  

When you buy FETA in any half-way decent Mediterranean deli, it's in (what's left of) a 3"x3"x6" block, soaking in a bath of brine. They will slice off however much you want of it. When you get it home, you may crumble it as you wish, or leave it in the slice and allow your fellow diners to crumble as much or as little as you want into their dish. If you only know of FETA as being crumbly, you've only seen FETA sourced by heathens.

Anonymous 9:25 AM  

I first had semaphore instead of ahoy there, which seemed more like something one might say from a dock or on the ship itself, although semaphore might strictly be the means of communicating rather than the communication itself.

And feta is almost always crumbled or occasionally cubed.

The first letter of rawr was the last blank square I had left and by then I just didn’t care enough to go through the alphabet.

SouthsideJohnny 9:25 AM  

Classic example of “just because you can doesn’t mean that you should” right off the bat (RAWR). Many of the other clues are typical NYT “try too hard by half” such as a bed of RICE, LEMON SAUCE (yes it’s technically a thing - when was the last time you had it or made it?), HEFTED, a slice of FETA (again, you do see it occasionally, but why clue it in a way that most people will cry “bogus”?), “Motion picture?” for BLUR . . . the stuff is just lame. Come on Will - you’ve got to be able to come up with clues that are late-week difficult without being borderline nonsensical.

MkB 9:27 AM  

Finished in almost exactly average time, for an almost exactly average puzzle. Nothing stood out as particularly good (though I was quite fond of CARAWAY), but nothing too egregious either...just some kinda "meh" clues and words.

Anonymous 9:28 AM  

As a person of Greek heritage, I can assure you that feta can be easily sliced, crumbled or cubed (if stored properly, ie, in salty water in a container, in the fridge). "Fancy" restaurants often place a rectangle slice of feta on top of their Greek salad. The happy eater will chop it up and mix it into the salad.

Rachel 9:30 AM  

This puzzle was way too hard. I had to reveal many squares along the way to finish it. I hate RAWR. I get that it's a thing, but it's not as big of a thing as the puzzle author seems to think it is. I started with "damn" at 1 across, and when that wouldn't work and I got _AW_, I figured it was "gawk". That didn't work either. So many clues were too needlessly hard. I also have never seen a "slice" of feta. I feel like the puzzle author must know that will throw off many people, and used "slice" in the clue just to make it hard, at the expense of a sound clue. So I didn't like this puzzle, it was being annoying.

RooMonster 9:32 AM  

Hey All !
OLA is as good an answer as ALA, so I'm taking my RoWR as a win, because RAWR or RoWR are equal. Cancels out my one-letter DNF. 😁

Had the exact experience in SE corner as Rex. Took out the THERE because COW just seemingly had to be right. Plus the misdirection of wanting cuke for FETA. What kind of weirdo slices FETA?

I'm surprised I finished in good time (for me), as I was stuck everywhere at first. Kept plugging away, and answers kept flowing. I LIKED when that happens.

ITS DOOR DIE again. Har.
Had tARAgon first for CARAWAY.
How is OPRAH informal? Isn't that her name?
SLUR as clued is a mystery. See also ORE.
Did @Lewis come up with the STAN clue? 😁

Looking forward to a neat @Gill story today. Lots of "plot points".

yd -12, should'ves 5 (yikes)

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

pabloinnh 9:32 AM  

No traction at all in the NW so I began in the Big EAST and went around more or less counterclockwise, finishing with ROWR, which I changed to RAWR because of the ALA cross, and that was that.

I think either ROWR or RAWR is acceptable for Roy Orbison's opinion of his "Pretty Woman", BTW.

I swear I just saw the WHAMOAMASS cross in another puzzle somewhere. Deja vu all over again.

Some look at me clues but I don't mind that once in a while, and found this just about right for a Friday. So well done, DS, some Devious Stuff made for some fun for me, for which thanks.

Paul & Kathy 9:42 AM  

PR time for a Friday.

mathgent 9:56 AM  

On Jeff Chen, David Steinberg hinted that a FART is drifting away from the WHOOPEECUSHION in the grid.

Some above said that a RAY is not a line, it's a line segment. Actually, it's neither. It's half a line.

Sir Hillary 9:57 AM  

This definitely played Saturday-hard for me. Not much time, so some quick comments:
-- Love the symmetrical ITSDOORDIE and LISTENTOME. Fair warning, or Chicken Little?
-- Same AcES/AYES issue as Rex. Spent way too much time wondering how Barbie could be a TOc.
-- Re: OPRAH...is referring to someone by their first name really "informal"? Clue felt off to me.
-- Are ASPEN trees notably associated with Pennsylvania?
-- @Anon 7:25 -- Big laugh from me at your michaEljacksON/WHITNEYHOUSTON comment. Luckily, I had the ending TON before anything else, or I would have likely found myself in the same predicament.

Anonymous 10:04 AM  

Either way it is a misdirection which penalizes the mathy among us.

Tom T 10:07 AM  

None of the misdirections mis-directed me today, and I finished in near record time for a Friday.

I did briefly finish CARA_ _ _ with CARAmel, but saw the WAY to correct it.

HOIST has been "popular" this week, today without a petard.

For Rex and others who wanted AcES over AYES (58A), there is a HDW (Hidden Diagonal Word) ACE (begins in the 10D space and moves to the SE).

Anonymous 10:22 AM  

Amen about KHAKI. I spent a career in the military. I wore a lot of khaki and a lot of camouflage. They are not the same thing.

Anonymous 10:37 AM  

Very tough, and like OFL, I fell into the "ACES" for "PROS" abyss. Oh, well.

jae 10:37 AM  

Medium. Top half was easier than the bottom where like @Rex et. al. AcES before AYES ate up a bunch of nanoseconds. Smooth with some sparkle (especially skirting the breakfast test rule with the FART joke), liked it!

pabloinnh 10:40 AM  

I hope anyone who does the New Yorker puzzle will have the same really? again? reaction I had.

egsforbreakfast 10:50 AM  

Surely the ultimate comment on this puzzle will come from @Zed with regard to the WHAMO frisbee. It’s more fun than a Nerf DARTGUN by far.

When you’re ONTHETOWN, be careful where you park or they’ll tow your CARAWAY.

I found this puzzle to be fast and easy. Nice Friday, David Steinberg.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 10:53 AM  

@angela 8:38 am - I see your point. I can only say that, as a 61 year old gay man, I'd be thrilled if a charming young man RAWRed at me (which, don't get me wrong, they do, often enough).

Anonymous 10:56 AM  

another sign of the collapse of Western Civilization is Whitney Houston being the best at anything.

Rich Glauber 11:01 AM  

Wow, shocked to see this one rated challenging. I did it in easy Wednesday time. A few others had PR's as well. No resistance whatsoever. Just goes to show... something, I guess.

bocamp 11:02 AM  

Thx, David; more or less a right 'ON' puz! :)

Easy; less than 1/2 my avg Fri. time.

Wednes. level diff, but a welcome change-up for a Fri. offering.

On David's wavelength pretty much all the way, with the exception of only starting with ALOE in the NW.

Speaking of BRAIN GAMES, here's an excellent site for 'easy to evil' levels of 'Sudoku'. I take a screen shot of the puz, paste it into my iPad's Photo app, then use the 'edit' function to solve, using an Apple Pencil.

Enjoyed this stroll in the park! :)
___
Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Sir Hillary 11:04 AM  

@mathgent -- Oh, that FART is hilarious! I sooooo hope they slipped that by WS.

Whatsername 11:05 AM  

Things did not start out well at 1A (UGH!!). Hated that clue but LIKED the one for POPES even less. Seriously? Wow. Well anyway, it wasn’t an UTTER loss but like Rex, I never really got on the wave length of this one.

Had a slice of BEET at 52A because why would I think FETA which is pretty much universally crumbled on salads. BTW it’s good on pizza too if you’ve never tried it, especially Hawaiian. No really, you should LISTEN TO ME.

I liked the little FART snuck in under the WHOOPEE CUSHION and having SHOTS while ON THE TOWN. Sounds like a pretty good way to start the weekend. I’ll have mine with a slice of lime though, not LEMON. Just as soon as I finish all my BRAIN GAMES.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 11:07 AM  

Well, I must have found my wheelhouse, or whatever. I enjoyed this puzzle. It was just challenging enough to be fun without being frustrating. I liked the cluing, and I don't get all the "too clever by half" comments above. What clues are folks groaning about? I thought the following were clever, period, not "too clever by half":

Bed in the kitchen?
Sail holder...or sale holder?
Butt of a joke?
Quaker of Pennsylvania?
Things some people do at bars
Ones who put you to sleep
Comment from one who's all thumbs?
Line in geometry
They share our blood types
Bolt for the finish line?
Ship-to-ship communication
Queen celebrated at an annual feast [nice one for the Jews, of which I am one]
Line in music
Precipitance [there's a nice word you don't see much; in fact, I don't think I've *ever* seen it—But I knew what it meant, because I'm a "Latin lover," in the POPish sense]
Divisions of subdivisions
Line on a receipt
Worker in a tunnel, maybe

I agree that FETA is generally crumbled, not sliced; but I didn't let that bother me.
I got POPES via crosses, and did not really grok [Latin lovers, officially speaking?], maybe because I'm a classicist by training, and I don't think of popes using Latin as equivalent to being a lover of the language. But maybe I am missing something here.
I didn't like [Motion picture?] for BLUR

Anonymous 11:07 AM  

@Mike in Bed-Stuy:

just in time for a confluence. one of the L&O re-run channels ran the episode in which Southerlyn gets fired by the reverse carpet-bagger DA, Branch. she says to Branch, appr., "It's not because I'm a lesbian?" to which Branch replies, "Of course not. Of course not." As if anyone believes him. Or course, there was never a whit of suggestion that she was gay during her run in the show. In fact, they (writers, directors?) had her pawing McCoy in quite a few episodes that season; in keeping with McCoy's penchant for bedding female asst. DAs. granted, RÖhm was widely considered the lost cause of all time on the series. until Milena Govich came along. they ditched Annie Parisse fast, too.

Joe Dipinto 11:10 AM  

Son Volt posted one lyric usage; here's another:
Your looks are laughable
Unphotographable
Yet you're my favorite WORK OF ART


Waiter, I'll have the green paint with lemon sauce.

(btw, Brussels sprouts with salt, pepper, melted butter, and caraway seeds is delicious.)

MarthaCatherine 11:12 AM  

bottom line for 17A. And I had ----O----E. So I was very sure it was right. Took a while to untangle that; how could it be anything else with that clue?

Also fell for cow instead of FIT. And spent a while figuring out what Barbie had to do with TOc. Figured it was some Aussie outdoor cooking thing.

Z 11:15 AM  

KHAKI was the color, then the cloth and the clothing. Now the material used to make KHAKIs is sometimes called KHAKI even if it is not the color KHAKI.

Right with Rex on the middle finger cluing for ORE. Crossworld is the only place I’ve ever seen this usage and I always feel a small twinge of guilt when I WRITE such answers with barely a precious nanosecond wasted.

@egs - WHAMO, manufacturer of the most despised flying disc in Ultimate, was indeed automatic here. Every Xmas you can find social media posts about people getting WHAM-Os from relatives. There’s always a twinge of wry chagrin in the posts and replies. Although, I did happen upon a WHAM-O 165g disc in a store and shared it with a bunch of old men players and they all thought I should grab it to use in a Legends (over 60) game. You pretty much have to be that old to remember using a WHAM-O in a competitive game. Since almost none of you would know this, 175g Discraft Ultrastars (Wixom mold) is the standard. That 10g makes a huge difference. Other elements also matter, although Aria makes a disc as good as the Ultrastar. If I ever make a puzzle I’ll be sure to include “flying disc manufacturer” as my “Aria” clue.

GILL I. 11:15 AM  

Well...I have a BRAIN GAME story forming in my head and it involves WHOOPEE WHITNEY and OPRAH. I have no time because I'm running late...I'll just say that it's funny.
I like David's puzzles. I can get into his wave at length. I met him in the Bay Area during one of the puzzle tournaments. He's sweet, funny and smart.
Gotta run. Puzzle was fun.

Newboy 11:18 AM  

LISTEN TO ME! For the first time in several years of following OFL this is literally the first and only time i have found Rex’s puzzle rating at the opposite end of the difficulty scale. All of David’s longer entries seemed exactly what I thought on first reading the clue. ITS DO OR DIE & ON THE TOWN are phrases I learned at my father’s knee back in the Eisenhower era. And WHITNEY HOUSTON & WHOOPEE CUSHION are sending vibrations from the 70s when our own sons were in potty humor mode. I’d like to think that my success is because Great Minds Think Alike, but with my previous struggles with Steinberg’s grids, I’m inclined to give Even a Blind Pig Finds an Acorn the likely credit. Whatever the reason, it’s made it a fabulous way to start a Friday.

jberg 11:18 AM  

This one involved some heavy lifting, and not just because of HEFTED and HOISTED. I got the former with no crosses, which made me fond of the puzzle, a feeling that lasted. I guess it depends on whether you like tricky clues. I do.

I had exactly the same experience as @Nancy 00 saw ITN, wrote in brITNEY, and wondered if the might be spelled Speares. But I left that part blank.

RAWR (or maybe RoWR, I haven't seen it written down) is what Claudia Cardinale says to Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther, after he has succeeded in getting her drunk, and just before she passes out. I'd never have got it without that memory.

1I had the CE for the dessert topping, and really wanted LEMON iCE. I almost put in LEMON sliCE, what the Brits call a lemony sheet cake (no FETA involved). I more commonly make LEMON SAUCE for fish.

I too thought that KHAKI was a color, but Dictionary.com says it can be either the color or the fabric. I've never seen the latter usage IRL.

I did like the three very different lines.

Jhawker 11:26 AM  

@anons @9:01 and 10:22, khaki IS a type of fabric. It is also a color. Most likely, the camo you wore was made from khaki fabric.

This 'n' That 11:27 AM  

If @Rex is blaming the puzzle for his misfortunes, he has lots of company today.

Lots of opinions today about "errors" in clues.

RAWR is stupid and ugly but not really offensive.

I'd guess that PRO or PROS in a clue, refers to favoring something as often as it refers to having expertise in something. Wouldn't call it a misdirect.

Anonymous 11:27 AM  

It’s a slice in a Greek salad in Greece.

Masked and Anonymous 11:37 AM  

har. Holy lemonsauce, Antman … @RP really had a cow fit, over losin them precious solvequest nanoseconds.

M&A, he luveth any FriPuz that has FART eminatin from WHOOPEECUSHION.

staff weeject pick: IMS. IBM database management system that M&A once did daily battle with. Ah, fond memories. honorable mention to ORE, which was a total gimme, at our house of crossword vets.

To be somewhat sympathetic to the FETA clue, M&A has observed fairly solid hunks of FETA cheese, splatzed on top of a so-called Greek salad.

Only tough spots in this fine FART-themed puz that I recall was at RAWR [solid raised-by-wolves entry] & at LEMONSAUCE [Could only think of LEMONCREME]. And, of course, the feisty Steinbergesque clues, sprinkled here and there like magical whoopee dust.

Thanx for the fun, Mr. Steinberg dude. Nice job.

Masked & Anonymo4Us

p.s. @Joaquin: RAWR, darlin. [If that helps, any.] Have a good day.


**gruntz**

Anonymous 11:38 AM  

of course, the html for the o-umlaut/lc is & # 246 ; (delete spaces) ö the danged search engine put up the cap version with the code in bold first, so that caught my eye.

burtonkd 11:39 AM  

Hands up for Michael Jackson

Ooh you're sexy had to be lAla, probably thrown in that direction from 2 down. This coming from the discussion of Nancy possibly being thrown off by nearby clues.

Definitely seen FETA slices on salads in Greece, served atop the lettuce, olives, tomatoes, etc.

I loved the aha moment of slain (I was looking for a geographical location). Had a discussion of words from KJV bible this morning at breakfast.

I liked ASPEN. While the trees are everywhere, this misdirect clue is only available in Pennsylvania.

At a recent discussion of what to wear for playing in a concert, a student asked if he could wear black khakis, which the whole group assured him wasn't a thing. Apparently it can be the name for the cloth now also.



blinker474 11:42 AM  

Tough puzzle for me. I did like WORKO'FART crossing WHOOPEECUSHION.

eddy 11:44 AM  

Stunning to me that you all know WHOOPEECUSHION. I'll Google it, maybe, but if I were to guess, it is some kind of fad. If it was, I was not in on it. Other than that, stopped cold by RAWR. Never heard anything like it in my 79 years. And I try to keep current.

Beezer 11:54 AM  

I always like Steinberg puzzles and this was no exception. Count me in with the folks that found this a bit easy for a Friday but it still had enough crunch to be fun. I admit to considering UTTERBOXES for a hot minute thinking it might be a new kind of “sleep machine” that provides soothing spoken mantras instead of the sound of the ocean or rain…

I agree with @Nancy that I have never seen a slice of FETA in my life but I guess if you had a block of it you would slice it and it would pretty much go into “crumbles.”

I bought a jar of Persian saffron in the Istanbul spice market a little while ago and kind of felt like it might be like buying Cuban cigars…

Also hand up for not knowing that there any ASPENs in PA so I learned something today!

Adam S 12:04 PM  

I enjoyed LISTEN TO ME sitting on top of UTTER BORES.

Anoa Bob 12:05 PM  

Enjoyable enough of a BRAIN GAME for me but my first reaction when I open the puzzle was that the grid looked more like a themed than a themeless one, what with 36 black squares and a slew of 3 letter entries. Trying to give those 3s Friday level cluing often backfires and just makes that part of the solve irritating.

AHOY THERE doesn't sound like any kind of "Ship to ship communication" to this old sailor's ear, maybe more like a cutesy, informal greeting between friends.

I got KHAKI easy enough from crosses but I thought it referred to the texture and color rather than type of "fabric", as clued. It used to be cotton, for both KHAKI and "camouflage" but these days is probably some synthetic textile like polyester.

Anonymous 12:10 PM  

Finished with an error but feel A-OK about it because rowr is totally legit and much funnier than rawr (those who've seen The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra will know what I mean), resulting in o lá as in o lá lá.

[rowr - Urban Dictionary
exclamation. Used to express one's arousal at a person or idea. The written form of the "sexy cat growl/purr".]

albatross shell 12:37 PM  

@Zed Anoa anon1128pm

I left yous a comment today on Thursday's blog. I missed your comments or they were in a timewarp somewhere. Ice chisel, big game, pooh.

sixtyni yogini 12:37 PM  

It had me at “Ooh you’re so sexy” = RAWR…
NOT
Was so annoyed by this clue and answer - it set the tone for the rest of 🧩 = did not enjoy.

So for all 🦖s reasons + being fed up from the start….
+ despite one or two sparklers
= not enough to get over a yawn and a RAWR.
SO GRRRR!
🤗🦖🦖🦖😜

Anonymous 12:42 PM  

In Geometry, a ray is not a line.

CDilly52 12:42 PM  

What a wonderfully crunchy Friday! And a fooler, too. No idea what 1A could be so I just moved across hoping for a toe hold. Got it with LEMON SAUCE followed by ITS DO OR DIE. that gave me the NE.

The downs RETIE and LIKED confirmed my leading camo suspect (albeit incorrect, I think) KHAKI. KHAKI is its own genre of fabric including the pure color. Camo can be and is photographically reproduced on a wide variety of natural and synthetic fabrics, but I do not recall ever seeing a camo pattern reproduced on KHAKI.

Moving on. I still had nothing in the NW. SO THEN I saw WHOOPEE CUSHION along with all if the remaining acrosses in the second tier West. And right there, my “naughty angel” saw what I believe our constructor referenced in his comment: WHOOPEE CUSHION crossing the only letters I had for 3 Down-_ _ _ _ _ F A R T. And of course I laughed and said to self (really, can’t lie here), “Oh, I do hope so!”

And I moved on through the remainder of the puzzle in a stop-start-head scratch Friday sort of meander enjoying the solve enormously - including the ultimate answer for 3D (with its Irish brogue) WORK O’FART. Sorry, I guess I couldn’t quite exorcise my 7th grade self. Remember when bathroom humor was everything? Sure you do.

Thank you David Steinberg. I always enjoy your work and today was truly a “real” WORK OF ART.

Chip Hilton 12:58 PM  

I got AYES immediately. AcES never entered my head. Personally, I think people who moan about their error on a reasonable clue are 55A.

RAWR killed me. I had confidently entered purR and moved on, effectively tying up that section in an ugly knot. Otherwise, a good, testing Friday puzzle.

Anonymous 1:01 PM  

They’re often called Quaking Aspens

Teedmn 1:04 PM  

RoWR! oLA has a grave accent? Sure, why not.

I'm with Rex on feeling beat up by this puzzle. By the time I finished in that NW corner, I didn't care anymore. So RoWR/oLA, done! DNF!

I had the HAS A cow with Rex. I ended up taking ANT out for a while. And with _OPES in for 42A, I was eager to see what finished that Latin lovers clue, but POPES, um, really?

And me too for the Barbie TOc for a while. WHAMO next to HEMAN, ouch. (Wanted HuMAN for a bit.)

David Steinberg, you got me good in a way that hasn't happened for a while, thanks.

Anonymous 1:11 PM  

Extremely easy. It would have been a challenging Tuesday. Close to my best time ever for a Friday.

Anonymous 1:34 PM  

@M&A:
IMS. IBM database management system

such profanity Codd will punish you.

Anonymous 1:39 PM  

What an incredible voice Whitney Houston had!

Anonymous 1:44 PM  

I was fin until ahoy there. I really thought it was semaphore (and still think that fits better)

Just friggin' look it up if your confused 1:46 PM  

The British, during the Raj, wore puke coloured uniforms. The Hindi word for the puke colour is KHAKI. Henceforth, KHAKI became hopelessly intertwined with puke coloured uniforms, or anything derived thereof. There is no A vs B vs C, it's just A&B&C.

albatross shell 1:46 PM  

With Mike in Bed-Stuy except BLUR was my favorite answer. As a kid I called movies moving pictures. Where movies, the word comes from. No I did not look it up.

To clever by half means too clever for you or you do not like that style of cluing. In Steinberg's hands it is A WORK OF ART.

Steinberg gives the FART hint in Wordplay. Originally designed to be an April Fools day puzzle. He said check out the last 4 letters of the words crossing WHOOPIE CUSHION. I looked at LIKED. I KED. and I remembered I originally had WHOOPIE. That would make I KID. I thought is WHOOPIE right? Did he put in a deliberately wrong answer which changes to a April Fools day joke on the the solver? Or would that be too clever by half?
I KID you not. I looked it up and was almost disappointed to find the double EE was right.

I had more trouble than the rest of you but HEFTED TOY AYES SLAIN ALOE TAX APES ENO COD HOP SPIN USAIN SCION HASTE went in with one or none crosses.

TiES, not TEES seems right to me. Am I missing a joke there?

@anon1046
Sounds more like a grouchy old man expressing his misplaced angst about the world while stroking his own ego.
She is the best at putting out popular songs by one measurement. Really, what is your gripe about her? Did she run over your dog?

puzzlehoarder 2:06 PM  

This was a very average Friday. Initially the across clues in the northern tier were giving me nothing but once I switched to the downs the puzzle opened up.

In the SE I had an AHOMATEY/AHOYTHERE write over and like a number of people I was confused by HAVEACOW supported by CUKE. Restarting that section from ANT quickly solved all.

ACES never crossed my mind. RAY was the last to go in.

yd -0

okanaganer 2:20 PM  

I too say nay to AYES. "...after Australian barbecues, I was out of ideas": exactly!

But my real problem was at the very beginning with RAWR; I agree with SouthsideJohnny 9:25 am on that. For line segment I had LAY (you know, "lay line" / "ley line" is a real thing) which gave me the completely feasible LAWD for 1 across! And divisions of subdivisions should be LOTS, not homes.

For HOISTED we had a literal clue; for HEFTED an inscrutable one. I still don't really get it.

Someone on the next block has a SCION car but never drives it. On my daily walks, at different times, it is always parked on the street at the same place. It once sat there with a flat tire for about 2 months. What is going on there?

Phillyrad1999 2:28 PM  

ACES for PROS instead of AYES was my nemesis.

Anonymous 2:35 PM  

This was a Friday puzzle? The clueing today just handed everything to the solver. That combined with the proliferation of short, often semi-crosswordese fill (ENO, ALOE, IMS, MAR) made this practically a race to read the clues and fill in the letters. Read clue, fill in answer, read next clue, fill in, etc. Like a theme less Tuesday. I’m shocked Rex wasn’t whining about how easy this was. Sure, I tried ACES first, but it was clearly wrong given LISTEN TO ME. AYES was fine. Way skewed toward the easy end of the spectrum for a Friday.

Anonymous 2:51 PM  

I don't know. Are we supposed to honor drug-addled celebrities, who die early due to their drug-addledness? By the same token, what does it say about Western Civilization when a shrimp-sized football QB gets $230 million over 5 years, and another prevert gets $230 million for 5 years, every cent guaranteed. Not to mention golfers taking obscene Bongo Bucks from bin Salman. A civilization is measured by those it overtly values. We ain't doin so well.

Anoa Bob 2:58 PM  

I've enjoyed reading the culinary comments. I've long prepared much of what I eat (but I am not a cook, he said Nixsonesquely) and since Covid I've prepared like 95% of my meals. I too like FETA cheese---had some last night---and I second Whatsername @11:05 that it tastes great on pizza. I like pizza with pesto SAUCE and FETA cheese with an onion topping. I also second Joe D.s @11:10 Brussel sprouts recipe. I use olive oil instead of butter.

My experience with military fabrics was a long, long time ago, before the introduction of synthetic material and the development of modern fabrics, so disregard my previous comments on that topic.

And now my inner nine year old is off to find the FART joke.

Anonymous 2:59 PM  

Agree about ray, but I thought of it as inaccurate rather than a misdirection.

Gary Jugert 3:02 PM  

Whelp, I officially understand the one-letter DNF emotional turmoil many of you go through. I was trying so hard not to ask Uncle G anything even though it's Friday and I was doing great up until the very last few letters in the northwest.

I could not for the life of me grok WORK OF ART as I was staring at _ORKOFANT and I kept saying to myself, "What do ants have to do with gems? Does Mork do anything gem-like?"

All this because I had Chip as a MAN instead of a MAR. I plan to eat chips for dinner tonight on this account. Without the W, RAWR was never happening despite living in an urban area of Denver with daily RAWRs jogging by.

Wrote in WHITNEY HOUSTON with only the WH in place. Dont know who QUEEN ESTHER is, but the crosses knew, so now I don't care.

Yays:

IT'S DOOR DIE, WHOOPPEE CUSHION, the clue for ASPEN, AUDIO (feed).

SO THEN as segue. I resemble that remark. But I'm going to change and start using AHOY THERE.

Boos:

LEMON SAUCE? Wha???

Line in music = SLUR. Of all the lines in all the gin joints in music, you go with slur. Bah.

ON THE TOWN = Club hopping if you're old enough to know what a 401K is.

Uniclues:

1 Opening salvo in an animated suburban amenity war.
2 Groups of grampas fishing.
3 Deforested.
4 Go to school.
5 Reason you're alone in an alleyway with one shoe, no wallet, and no pants.
6 Semi-useful command when the cheese acts up.
7 Lifted up those from 1-Across.
8 Saves people while being beautiful.
9 Personal jewelry goes rampaging.

1 YARD, IT'S DOOR, DIE
2 KHAKI TRIOS
3 HEFTED ASPEN
4 AMASS BRAIN GAME
5 ON THE TOWN SHOTS
6 LISTEN TO ME FETA
7 RED HOTS HOISTED
8 APES ESTHER
9 EAR RING HAS A FIT

Anonymous 3:03 PM  

I agree.

Also I knew aspens were called “quaking aspens”, but I don’t think of them as a Pennsylvania thing. I’m from the south, though, so maybe that’s just me.

Blue Stater 3:29 PM  

Yeah, I had a similar experience to OFL's. Very hard work, almost no fun.The POPES clue had virtually nothing to do with the answer.

CDilly52 3:41 PM  

Some days it’s all about the wavelength! Congrats @Anon 1:11 PM

CDilly52 3:50 PM  

I add bacon and sub olive oil on my sprouts but adore the caraway !! And now I’m hungry.

CDilly52 3:52 PM  

@Anoa Bob 2:58 PM. My inner 9 year old lasted through 7th grade (shamefully).

David 3:58 PM  
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Dan 4:21 PM  

Always happy to see a David Steinberg puzzle, and today's challenging example reminded me why.

JJK 4:25 PM  

RAWR? Gross.

Doctor Work 4:46 PM  

Difficult? Really? Normally, Rex's "difficult" means "a multi-day slog" for me, but today was super easy, especially for a Friday. I did it in about 20 minutes when a normal Friday might take me closer to an hour.

egsforbreakfast 5:05 PM  

I think this may have been explained earlier, but since people are still saying things like “I don’t particularly associate ASPENs with Pennsylvania,” I’ll give it a go. The clue is an attempted misdirect, since Quakers are particularly associated with Pennsylvania, particularly William Penn. in fact, Pennsylvania is known as the Quaker State. But, Pennsylvania, like all but four of the 50 states is also home to quaking ASPENs. Hence, if you fell for the misdirect, you probably wrote in Penn (hopefully in pencil) before saying “WTF!!! Penn only has 4 letters, whereas the answer has 5.”

albatross shell 5:45 PM  

@egs
Nice summary. I'm in Pennsylvania with some ASPEN trees near my house and I associate the trees with Colorado. Clever use of Qusker to misdirect. Oil company, Quakers, nervousness, cccold, earthquakes...trees!

@anon
The roots of western civilization, Greek and Roman culture, had plenty of people that might fit your description of Whitney. Same with the French and English societies. People with talent in the arts are often not particularly good or nice but are honored fo their skill and talent. Same in America. You are cancel culture at its worst. Who are you to judge her anyway.

mathgent 6:25 PM  

@albatross shell (5:45) Beautiful response to anon.

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Blog Goliard 8:05 PM  

The clue for POPES seemed especially inapposite given the current Pontiff, who has shown in more than one way that he is decidedly not a big fan of Latin.

(I say this neither to praise nor criticize Francis, but only to enrich the rightful resentment of this clue.)

Also, pointing out that hanging the FETA clue on slicing rather than crumbling is defensible factually, particularly if you're Greek and/or a foodie, is not the same as establishing that the clue was high quality or a good idea. (It was not.)

As one is left feeling so often these days, it wasn't a bad puzzle, and those of us who've tried our hand at constructing have all done much worse I'm sure...but the NYT can and should do so much better.

Joe Dipinto 8:41 PM  

@Anoa Bob – I usually use butter if I boil the sprouts, oil if I roast them. @CDilly re bacon: if I have pancetta (cured pork belly) or guanciale (pork jowl) on hand I'll chop some up and toss it in. Very delicious!

Harry 8:42 PM  

Like several here, this was firmly within my wheelhouse. The cluing made me work for a correct solve, but nailing the clues was satisfying. Finished a little faster than my typical Friday.

On a skilled constructor scale of 0-10, I'd give this constructor something like a 8.5

LateSolver 9:46 PM  

@Anon 7:53 got it right for me, too. Aspens are better known as western (e.g., Colorado) and not PA, Feta isn't sliced for salads (I've bought crumbled FETA, but not sliced - and it's so crumbly even if you sliced it it would fall apart), and the clues were only clever in the constructor's head - not OOH when you figure it out, but UGH.

And 1A could literally any neanderthal noise, spelled any way you want. No one is going to get RAWR off the clue, only the crosses. UGH!

Anonymous 11:35 PM  

Monday easy for me. Not the challenge I seek on a Friday. Surprised this was hard for REX

Joe Dipinto 12:25 AM  

I see that Pennsylvania has the occasional earthquake. So the next time EARTH is an answer in the grid, "Quaker of Pennsylvania?" should be re-used as the clue.

Thank you for tuning in to today's installment of
Why This Clue Sucks

Eejit 1:31 AM  

Not in Greece, I’m my experience. Salads usually come with thick slices on top.

albatross shell 1:56 AM  

@late solver

Read the other comments. In my world of chain store cheese departments and never having European vacation cheese tours you are right. But our world is not the whole world.

Anonymous 11:16 AM  

Well actually it can come in slices - or slabs - often on Greek salads.

Anonymous 11:18 AM  

💯

Anonymous 11:21 AM  

Uh wut?

Tail End Charlie 8:49 PM  

I’m sure it’s been said, but David slew Goliath. So he was slain. By a rock. From a sling.
I ain’t no Bible-thumper but it’s something I learned in second grade. Though it might
have been the King James (the Scottish King) Version.

kitshef 11:11 AM  

Always discouraging to DNF on garbage like RAWR. Some off cluing today- for TEXT and POPES are the ones that stick in my head.

RickLevenson 5:30 PM  

Correct.

chenequa 3:47 PM  


Had no idea about Square 1 since I knew a RAY is not a line. Never heard of RAWR, but I guess it's out there.

Isn't UTTERBORES green paint?

Am I the only one who doesn't TEXT with his thumbs?

Otherwise fun!

thefogman 10:49 AM  

I’d say it was WRITE on for a Friday. Challenging at first, until I got some traction in the NE corner, then WHAMO! it all crystalized after that. Hardest part was the NW corner. Took me a while to understand 33A MAR because the clue implies that the answer is abbreviated with e.g. in the cluing. All in all, a decent BRAINGAME to end the workweek with. Nice job by The Wunderkind. Scratch that. DS is a full-grown BLOKE now. :-)

Diana, LIW 12:45 PM  

I agree with @Foggy - once I got going, I got it. Except for ROWR - really? But the rest was doable - especially for a Friday.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords, returning to the real world

spacecraft 12:48 PM  

A rare day: I found it easier than OFF did. (For you newcomers, that's Our Fearless Fussbudget.) After abandoning the usual inscrutable MW, I entered with EARRING, worked down along the EAST coast, then hit DOD WHITNEYHOUSTON, which blew the whole thing wide open. Neither of OFF's hangups bothered me down THERE. Moved back up the west (Jerry, that is, model for the leaning figure in the NBA logo) until the -FART under the WHOOPEECUSHION gave me WORKOFART, and was able to get the NW for the finish.

DS has mellowed into adulthood, apparently. Lost a few teeth in the transition. He used to be a warehouse of triumph points for solving. Now, for a Friday: meh. Easy-medium at best. Still good and clean, of course. Par.

Wordle bogey.

Burma Shave 1:03 PM  

HEMAN HASTE

AHOYTHERE WHITNEY! You’re REDHOT TO day,
SOTHEN LISTENTOME, IT’S time TO PLAY!

--- “KHAKI” RAY REED

thefogman 1:43 PM  

For anyone who’s interested today’s New Yorker Magazine has a puzzle by none other than David Steinberg. It’s really good. Even better than this one.

https://www.newyorker.com/puzzles-and-games-dept/crossword/2022/08/26 https://www.newyorker.com/puzzles-and-games-dept/crossword/2022/08/26

rondo 2:39 PM  

@foggy - good to know. And DS is also editing the Universal Crossword as published in the Mpls Star-Tribune and probably in a paper near you. What a life!

rondo 7:30 PM  

Wordle birdie
BBBBB
BBYBG
GGGGG

Anonymous 10:38 PM  

For 30 down we only had the “h” from Oprah and confidently wrote in semaphore. Oops.

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