1998 Hanks/Ryan rom-com / MON 12-6-21 / Follower of open and pigeon / Peas to some classroom pranksters / Something waved at concerts prior to the age of cellphones / Semihard Dutch cheese
Monday, December 6, 2021
Constructor: Emily Rourke
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Word of the Day: LETTER PRESS (34A) —
Letterpress printing is a technique of relief printing. Using a printing press, the process allows many copies to be produced by repeated direct impression of an inked, raised surface against sheets or a continuous roll of paper. A worker composes and locks movable type into the "bed" or "chase" of a press, inks it, and presses paper against it to transfer the ink from the type, which creates an impression on the paper. // In practice, letterpress also includes other forms of relief printing with printing presses, such as wood engravings, photo-etched zinc "cuts" (plates), and linoleum blocks, which can be used alongside metal type, or wood type in a single operation, as well as stereotypes and electrotypes of type and blocks. With certain letterpress units, it is also possible to join movable type with slugs cast using hot metal typesetting. In theory, anything that is "type high" and so forms a layer exactly 0.918 in. thick between the bed and the paper can be printed using letterpress. // Letterpress printing was the normal form of printing text from its invention by Johannes Gutenberg in the mid-15th century to the 19th century and remained in wide use for books and other uses until the second half of the 20th century. Letterpress printing remained the primary means of printing and distributing information until the 20th century, when offset printing was developed, which largely supplanted its role in printing books and newspapers. More recently, letterpress printing has seen a revival in an artisanal form. (wikipedia)
Theme answers:
- BILL OF RIGHTS (20A: Early addendum to the Constitution)
- LETTERPRESS (34A: Gutenberg invention)
- PACKAGE DEAL (41A: Sauna plus massage at a spa, perhaps)
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[Christine Baranski!! Mwah!!]
There was one downside, and a big one, to this puzzle, which is a couple of Wince Words. Long ones that just genuinely made me cringe and stop to take screenshots. Here's Wince Word One:
In both cases, I thought "ew, that can't be right, not on a Monday!?" and then slowly felt myself sink as all the crosses checked out. No one uses these adjectives. They just don't. They are arcane and odd and ... like, not *hard* to get, but just not in-the-language. I'm trying to imagine using SORORAL instead of "sisterly." And NATANT instead of "floating." Oof. It's all very olde-tymey professorial, and it's no fun at all. There's no reason an easy Monday grid should be gunked up by this stuff. Let the fill be plain and let the theme shine and there you are, a wonderful Monday. But NATANT SORORAL FARE is literally no one's idea of a good time. You'd have to tear those sections out and redo them, but it would be worth it. I don't understand why certain words don't set off red lights / alarm bells in constructors' / editors' heads. Maybe you let yourself get away with one of these fussy rarely-used adjectives, but definitely not both.
81 comments:
I'm posting just to be first.
My favorite moments in the puzzle were those when I wasn’t on auto, specifically at OLIGARCHY, COTE, LETTERPRESS, NATANT, SORORAL and AREAR. These answers drew my brain into the solve, making it happy. Appropriately for a Monday puzzle, with the exception of the meeting of SORORAL and AREAR, none of these answers cross or touch.
My favorite answer is SMOLDER, what a gorgeous word. YELL matched well with YAY and EUREKA. And I smiled at the cross of ABODE and a backward DWEL.
It is so rare that I hand-write letters anymore. It is so rare that I solve crosswords on paper any more. I love the convenience of the keyboard, but something inside me also decries that something valuable has been lost.
Funny the things crosswords trip off. Thank you for making this, Emily, and congratulations on your debut!
I get up later than most so this is a rare opportunity for me. Wonder why @rex was so late today; or was there a problem with Blogger?
This may have been the easiest puzzle I ever completed. Just filled it in, no resistance. I am not complaining, this offsets those that kick my ass.
Besides being the inspiration for the Hanks/Ryan movie at 55A, "The Shop Around the Corner" is also the basis for the musical "She Loves Me." Another piece of useless trivia until it shows up in a puzzle one day.
Re: 41A - Just what sort of massage should I expect with a "PACKAGE" DEAL?
Imagine my disappointment when I opened the blog only to find no blog. Oh wait, you don’t have to imagine it because you’re probably experienced it yourself. How rude!
Just kidding of course. Glad to have everything back to normal now and I can do what I came here to do which was to say thank you Emily, for this excellent debut. The overall aura is very sweet and evocative of a simpler time when all we had to worry about checking was our email - before we descended to the point that technology began to consume us and virtually rule our society.
Another potential themer I thought of was “check” … as in CHECK is in the MAIL. Of course that doesn’t happen so much any more with electronic banking and such. Writing checks has become a LOST ART, much like LETTER writing. I still do both occasionally and feel downright nostalgic about it.
I made this very easy puzzle hard for myself. For some reason I wrote in Mata HARa and ended up with an early addendum to the Constitution beginning with BaLLO. Well of course I thought BALLOT-- wouldn't you? -- but then there was the oh-so-obvious taxi FARE and the resulting BaLL OF. BALL OF in the Constitution????!!!! I did straighten it all out -- but not as quickly as I should have.
This puzzle had some nice, un-Mondayish words in it: OLIGARCHY; NATANT; TRACTS. But it still was an easy solve. Which is all in the fairly on-the-nose cluing, of course.
A note on LIGHTER, as clued (9D) -- I have long railed against people rudely and disruptively playing with their smart phones in the middle of live performances. This clue reminds me that there used to be much worse possibilities. At least a smart phone never set anyone's hair on fire.
Easy-medium. The bottom half was on the tougher side. I only know NATANT from crosswords and it’s been quite a while since I’ve seen it. Pretty smooth with a solid theme, liked it. A fine debut!
My five favorite clues from last week
(in order of appearance):
1. Where you might bump into a metal fan (4)(3)
2. Out-of-office procedure? (6)
3. Challenge while sitting (4)
4. Bit of mayo? (3)
5. Some transcript omissions (3)
MOSH PIT
OUSTER
BRAT
DIA
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I propose that Rex should add an “enjoyability rating” next to “Relative Difficulty.” The rating system scale could be something like: EUPHORIA; LOVELY; VERY NICE; NOT TOO BAD; MEH; SLIGHT LET DOWN; WASTE OF TIME; GET THE HOOK; FIRE THE EDITOR.
It sound like this puzzle would be a “NOT TOO BAD.”
I have no problem with SORORAL, since we use FRATERNAL all the time, but for me at least, NATANT means "swimming" and if I want "floating" I'll use BUOYANT. There, I feel better.
The rest of this was solid Monday stuff. Same issue as OFL with LETTERPRESS, but that was today's learning experience, so fine. And it's always a good idea to start a puzzle with an Austin Powers reference.
For those of you of a certain age (mine), I'd recommend today's New Yorker puzz for an opportunity to feel disconnected from the modern world.
Nice job, ER. Exactly right for a Monday, and thanks for the fun.
SORORAL? Ick. Especially on the Mondee. Get outta here with that.
The rest of the fill was pretty good with a little bite, and the theme was dead-on Mondeelicious.
Excellent debut, Ms. Rourke - congratulations and keep 'em coming!
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Thx Emily; nice to start the solving week with an excellent Mon. construction! :)
Thx @Rex, for providing us with this 'welcoming,' SAFE PLACE to share! :)
Easy-med.; Very smooth solve.
Tabbed thru this one, then filled in the blanks; no holdups.
Don't get much in the way of snail mail these days wrt to BILLs or LETTERs. Do receive the occasional PACKAGEs.
Learned NATANT from xwords; it's stood me in good stead many times in the Spelling Bee.
Enjoyed the journey! :)
@puzzlehoarder (2:43 PM yd) 👍 for 0 dbyd
@Eniale (8:36 PM yd) 🤞 for the hiding 6er :)
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td 0 / yd 0 / (never did get that Fri. 7 ltr word, altho there's a street in Vanc. that is close to it, but didn't twig me. Fact is, I don't think I've ever heard this word; so, it goes on the List, and I look forward to it in future SBs.
Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊
A rather saucy moonday.
We start out with ABEL in A REAR with Madame HARI and some TABOO ORAL SHAGS going on that is grounded in the BILL OF RIGHTS and we are barely out of the NE corner.
Then in SW we have some AONE LEWD SMOLDERing IDEAs from EUREKA, the XXX SMUT PRESS outfit, about a hidden TART of 45D (and mistress of the LOST ARTs of the EDAMites) is handling a PACKAGE of heavy LUMBER. Now I notice there is some more hidden ORAL going on at 5D.
The breakfast test is IN TEARS and, good taste has been shredded, and the piano has a dirty mind, not me. This is more interesting than the official theme in this puzzle.
All is occurring in a SAFESPACE. I hope they have a safe word too.
I will make note of the Edenic SNAKE and worry that one part of our constitution is becoming the BILL O FRIGHTS.
PEEL is nicely opposite TIRE also.
Absolutely loved SORORAL and NATANT ( hmmm…SORORAL gets a suspicious underline from my spell-checker, but NATANT does not. Wonder what that means?
Both words are good examples of the benefits of knowing Latin, and the need in English for single words to represent multi-word concepts (e.g., NATATORIUM =“indoor swimming pool”) Funny, tho, that no one (meaning Rex) complains about the more common partner , but SORORAL is “not in the language”; why not? Even non-identical girl twins are called “fraternal”—what’s with that?
NATANT is more “swimming” than “floating”; I think the language is big enough for both.
SORORAL gets the gold, NATANT the silver, and SMOLDER a distant bronze, proving that wonderful words are possible even on a Monday.
Thank you, Emily Rourke!
What Rex said about The Shop Around the Corner and SORORAL and NATANT. The theme type is a very Monday theme type, but I agree the execution of it was top notch.
@JC66 - I can never remember who does the last Tuesday and who does the first Monday, but I think someone forgot.
@Lewis - I do puzzles both ways and I simply enjoy pen to paper better than using a keyboard. The same with books. I simply enjoy turning a page more than using Nook. I will read books on my iPad when I travel because it weighs less, but I enjoy a book more.
**Spoiler Alert for a different puzzle**
Best Crossword moment of the day, though, was The New Yorker evoking Chuck Berry.
"The overall aura is very sweet and evocative of a simpler time when all we had to worry about checking was our email - before we descended to the point that technology began to consume us and virtually rule our society."
Beautifully put, @Whatsername. I am relieved to know that there are other Luddites like me out there. Please know that I treasure the stubborn resistance to technology -- as futile as it might be -- of every last one of them.
Common misconception -- Gutenberg absolutely did not invent the printing press, an invention that long preceded him. His molds for his moveable type did revolutionize mass printing, and for that he's justly famous. Oh, another name for that is letterpress. The clue is accurate.
"Yeah, I shagged her. I shagged her rotten."
So we start off with shags, followed by a rear, smut,smolder, lewd, and oral.
Best Monday ever.
Good observations by Mary @10:28
Nice debut, Emily!
When printing press and movable type wouldn't fit, I was about out of ideas for Gutenberg. I think at one point I had LETTER Paper in there, which is a pretty major stray for a Monday.
The recent Jumanji reboot was just OK. One funny thing was that one of the avatar's special powers was "SMOLDERing".
@pabloinnh - Surprised that it’s pronounced with two schwas. @Mary McCarty - SORORAL also gets the red dotted lines for me.
Just generally, two R sounds so close together is rough on the ears. SORORity gets redeemed by the the terminal T sound, but SORORAL clangs. I’ve mentioned before that I really like M-W’s “recent examples from the web” feature. SORORAL has two examples from this year. NATANT doesn’t have that section even though my spell check believes in it more than SORORAL. I wonder what a word has to do to get that sectioned added.
Now that all of my bills and most of my correspondence arrive online, my U.S. MAIL is mainly ads, fliers, coupons, and unwanted catalogs. So, a more apt theme might be “YOU’VE GOT SPAM!” However, the grid was well constructed and offered a few treats like SAFE SPACE and LOST ART. Congrats on the debut.
Thanks for the memories: Sitting in a movie theatre watching “Rocky Horror Picture Show” when the song “There’s a Light” comes on and everyone around me suddenly holds up a lit cigarette LIGHTER. I believe this was referred to as “flicking your Bic.”
An interesting factoid about GROUPER. After a year or two, they can change gender. I hear they have very interesting parties.
Does anybody really refer to almanacs and atlases as REFS?
Bill O’Frights and Olig Archy walk into a bar and…
A pleasingly tidy theme. I wondered if there were a message intended in OLIGARCHY over BILL OF RIGHTS. Thanks to @Rex for the LETTER PRESS lore.
Do-over: wow before AWE. Help from Spelling Bee (hi, @bocamp): NATANT.
I've never seen Shop Around the Corner. I'll see if it's on Netflix. My favorite Christmas movie is Love, Actually.
We were in Tampa a couple of months ago and we had grouper at a restaurant on the Gulf of Mexico. My first time. I really liked it.
Do restaurants in NYC offer it? Our restaurants don't. It would have to be flown in. They catch some in Hawaii but I haven't seen it on the menus there.
Only one lonely red plus sign in the margins today.
I have twin daughters, now grown up - and so "Sororal" was a "gimme." When they were young I used it all the time to differentiate from fraternal. I admit natant is a new word for me - but happy to learn.
@TJS
At least the piano isn't the only one. Great minds and gutters, you know. How innocent do you think Emily is?
Hey All
Thanks for the apology for being late, Rex. At least an explanation. 😁
Nice MonPuz. Didn't go all "olde tymey" crazy as Rex, words will be words. Don't* matter if they're old(e), new, ancient, archaic, we all know them. Let them be. Enjoy your solve like YesterPuz.
*I know it's supposed to be Doesn't there. Trying to sound cool. Har.
Had SORORly first. Couple other writeovers, SAFEplACE-SAFESPACE, tiMBER-LUMBER.
TRACTS always gets a laugh out of me, from Monty Python, "She's got huuuuge... TRACTS of land."
No complaints about OLIGARCHY on a Monday? NATANT seems less nit-picky. Just sayin.
Anyone remember the Syfy show EUREKA? Pretty cool show. Along with Warehouse 13. Now all the good shows seem to be on streaming thingies, or pay for channels. Bummer.
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Very good MonPuz with the ever-popular "the starts of" theme mcguffin.
I had a Bucketful of fave fillins for this puppy. Suffice it to say they included both SORORAL [with Patrick Berry Usage Immunity] and NATANT [MonPuz debut for the Shortzmeister, but was in several MonPuzs before that].
Also thought LIGHTER crossin OLIGARCHY was kinda plucky. More plucky than RIGHTS crossin LIGHTER, anyhoo.
Oh, and always appreciate a good, solid EUREKA.
staff weeject pick: RRS. Had a dear relative who worked for the Santa Fe RR.
fave moo-cow eazy-E MonPuz clue: {Equal ___ for equal work} = PAY.
Thanx for the fun, Ms. Rourke darlin. And congratz on yer impressive debut.
'Bout time U got up, there, @RP! har
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**gruntz**
Printing presses -- including with movable metal type -- had been used in East Asia for centuries before Gutenberg.
I learned the word “sororal” quite early in life: that is one of the gifts of having a
non-identical same sex twin sister (and parents who had studied Latin.)
“Nanant” was easy for me to infer because of the time one of my parents asked the other,
on a cross-country car trip, whether we should stop at a natatorium.
As soon as we stopped at a swimming pool the 4 little girls in the
back seat figured out the word.
AWOL: Still not a noun.
Not a Hanks fan so I’ve never seen the movie but did like the puzzle. Theme was pretty tight and the grid was well filled - little to no garbage. Agree with Rex on NATANT - but I liked SORORAL. SMOLDER, LIGHTER, TABOO are all wonderful.
Rex is spot on with The Shop Around the Corner - I would also add It Happened on 5th Avenue to the black and white list. My new favorite is The Man Who Invented Christmas - basically a retelling of how Dickens created so much of the current day Yuletide tradition.
Enjoyable Monday solve.
I thought Rex's comment that "There's no reason an easy Monday grid should be gunked up by this stuff." was interesting (even if you don't agree with him about the specifics of today's puzzle). It sure seems to me that the NYT team tends to suffer from these types of self-inflicted wounds on much too regular a basis. It just seems to be too common an occurrence (on any day of the week) where a very fine puzzle is spoiled or at least dragged down a notch (or, yes "gunked up") by a completely unnecessary Natick here or there, or some such nonsense as crossing PPP with an very unfamiliar foreign word, and on and on. Rex explained the whole concept very succinctly when he first introduced the term Natick some time ago. The unfortunate thing is that it's so preventable - with as much experience as Shortz has, it would take him an extra 5 or 10 minutes to scan a finished grid and eliminate the true trivia tests. I wonder if he thinks that type of situation is a net positive (I know many here praise "crunchy" puzzles). Would be fun to pick his brain on the topic some time.
@bocamp -Croce’s Freestyle #666 was easy-medium on the Croce scale or a tough NYT Saturday. Good luck!
Well, for some reason SORORAL and NATANT felt like some pickle juice landed in my jelly jam. Is that supposed to happen? I ask.
I love me YOU'VE GOT MAIL. I mean the real kind. The ones where you go to your ancient mail box and actually see a hand written card. I still send cards out. I love cards. I draw whimsies and people have bought them and actually use them as thank you cards. How's them apples?
@mathgent 10:58. I've also had GROUPER in Baja. They call it cabrilla or sometimes baya. We had it in a tequila, lime, orange, garlic marinade over some rice and I licked my plate.
Is this another debut? if so....I enjoyed it.
Ooooh....I just noticed @albatross shell's little saucy Monday ode. Yes indeed....BILL O FRIGHTS.
Oh, have I got a treat for all of you!!!! YOU'VE GOT MAIL led to a discussion of the much better movie "Shop Around the Corner" on which it was based. I agree it's a great movie; I've seen it twice; and I highly recommend it.
But there's a musical based on "Shop" called SHE LOVES ME that I enjoyed even more when I saw it not long ago on Broadway. It's by Harnick and Bock of "Fiddler on the Roof" fame -- but I like this musical even better.
I went to YouTube to see if the complete Broadway show I saw might possibly be there AND IT IS!!!!!! Expertly videotaped and recorded originally for PBS, I think,, it's almost as good as seeing it in person. I envy your seeing it for the first time.
Here it is: SHE LOVES ME -- the entire show! Don't miss it!
My favorite posts this morning.
Tom in Nashville (10:20)
Joseph Michael (10:52)
Gill I. (11:52)
@Nancy (10:35) Thank you, I agree. Having recently worked in a job which required me to learn out of necessity, I’m equipped to at least cope with it all. But what I sincerely feel badly about is the fact that there are people among us who do not even possess or have access to a computer or wireless device and would have no idea how to use one if they did. But in the relentless rush to make things ever faster and more efficient, they have been forgotten and ignored. So many businesses, including government offices, now just assume that everybody has the ability to do business electronically. A good example is an elderly friend who recently received a summons for jury duty. In big bold letters were instructions to go to a website and fill out the questionnaire on line or else, followed by threats of penalty and punishment for failure to respond. She was beside herself and had no idea what to do. I managed to find a phone number she could call in tiny print at the bottom of the last page but in such situations, unless they have someone to help them, these people are left with few options. It’s very wrong and really kind of sad.
Die Hard is probably the best Christmas movie. The Shop around the Corner is lovely, but Sullivam isnt really up to the job imho. Lubitsch is great no doubt. But Shop isnt in his best. Trouble in Pardise is. Ninotchka is second ( though Garbo is not a fave of mine, she does just fine here). The criminally underrated Cluny Brown follows. Depending on your tolerance for noise ( and jack Benny) To Be or Not To be is probaly next on the hit parade then the absolutely wondrful Shop Around the Corner.
Christmas in conecticut is fine. But hardly in the pantheon of Yule jewels. Though its star--Barbara stanwyck ( The greatest actress in history)--may behave a claoim to greatest Christmas movie: Remember the Night ( The reason is mostly Preston sturges) Holiday Affair--and i love me some Bob Mitchum-- isnothe nice try but....
Obviously it's not a Christmas movie but its climactic scene takes place at Christmas--and it is the best Christams scene in moviedomm--Meet Me in St Louis ( Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas underoins the poignant 8 minutes or so) gets me every time should be mentioined in this thread.
Rex watches a lot of TCM, but he gets so much wrong it's hard to believe he's a real fan. More of just, i dunno, a zombie viewewer.
Pretty much agree with OFL today. The wince words like SORORAL were way inappropriate for a Monday, and my own time suffered greatly as a result.
I insist that all BILLS be mailed to me, precisely because I pay most of my BILLS online using my bank's BILL pay feature, and the easiest way to make sure they are paid is to put them in a pile next to my computer, log on, and pay several bills at the same time. Yes, they could be sent to me electronically, but it is so easy to forget them if they are not in tangible form. Also, the paid BILLS can be marked as paid on a certain date, and easily found and referred to if thee is a problem.
I still do write checks, though, for paying our housecleaners and our gardener, because I don't want my bank to have the addresses of individuals. Banks are often hacked, and I don't want to be responsible for revealing personal names and addresses to potential thieves.
NATANT: Good enough for the NYT Crossword, but not the NYT Spelling Bee...
First encountered Grouper when SCUBA diving in Cozumel in the early 80's. Numerous huge schools would frequently pass by and one of the dive masters would catch a big one and we'd have it for lunch. Delicious.
Don't know if I've ever seen it in NYC.
@old timer
Good user name. 😂
I’ll refrain from commenting on the lascivious NW corner, since much has been uncovered on that section already. I liked STYE paralleling EYES.
It occurs to me that EVADE could be a synonym for hack, as a verb.
My wife has told me many stories about spending every day in the summers at Boise’s Natatorium, which is still the name for the public pool there. Naturally, the kids called it the Nat and probably still do.
I think this was a nice debut for Emily Rourke and a good Monday puzzle.
PS. If any of this comment seems “off”, I blame the Oxycodone that is keeping me functioning after my Friday knee replacement.
@Nancy
The movie musical rom-com In the Good Old Summertime with Judy Garland is also based on. THE Shop Around the Corner. Different than the play I guess. I must of seen it but I remember nothing but the title. Maybe only clips of Judy singing?
You know that liquid you pour off of your sour cream or yoghurt? SuperNATANT fluid that stuff. I know, because I spent months trying to predict what formulations could prevent that. The answer? Nothing you'd want to eat. Just pour that crap down the drain.
@jae (11:50 AM)
Thx, I'm on it! :)
Btw, just did the NYT first xword from 2/15/1942. I should say 'tried' to do it. lol
@Nancy (12:01 PM)
Thx for the 'She Loves Me' link; watching it now. :)
@Anonymous (12:50 PM)
Strange, NATANT works for me in SB (at least recently). 🤔
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Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊
Agree totally with OFL that The Ref is a great Christmas movie! If you're expecting a feel good warm and fuzzy, you're outta luck ... but if you want fabulous characters played by fabulous actors and a hearty laugh every couple of minutes then this is it! Or you can watch it for Dennis Leary's total snark.
@Unknown11:39 - It's been a noun for over a hundred years. And Collins agrees.
Regarding LETTERPRESS: It's complicated. Just be warned that between the article itself and various linked articles, War and Peace might be a quicker read. The whole "who invented what" debate made me wonder if in a few thousand years they will be debating whether or not Wikipedia had a single author or multiple authors akin to the authorship debates about Homer and the Bible.
@Pete 1:19 - Any reason not to stir it back in?
Certain minds (I'll let others "adjudge" whether we're great or mediocre ones) think alike: "The Shop Around The Corner" (1940) is one of my two favorite seasonal films, the other being the 1951 iteration of "A Christmas Carol" (a.k.a. "Scrooge") with the incomparable Alastair Sim as Scrooge. My wife, who is not a big fan of old black and white, is currently away, and I just pulled TSATC out of my DVD collection and watched it last night in her absence. Never have seen "You've Got Mail," and don't feel I've missed much (never a big Meg Ryan fan).
I had some stuff to do this morning, but apparently I didn't miss much here. Fine puzzle, nice theme, and I don't know what Rex doesn't like about SORORAL. True, you could say sisterly, but sometimes you want to sound a little more pompous, and what's better than Latin for that?
As for NATANT, I had the same idea as @Pablo and @Mary McCarty, that it's what you do in a natatorium. But according to Dictionary.com, it can also use floating, and always means that when used in botany; e.g., water lily pads are NATANT. So I've learned something!
ABODE, on the other hand, while a fine word as well, is getting a bit stale -- it seems to be in every other puzzle.
I taught full-time for 42 years. Somewhere around year 35, a colleague pointed out that the students no longer knew how to write in longhand -- on exams, they could letter their essays. It was true, but had somehow escaped my notice. I guess that must mean longhand is no longer part of the elementary curriculum. Strange.
Yeah, where's August?
@Nancy, thanks for the link, maybe I'll watch it this evening.
Serendipity!
"The Shop Around the Corner" airs tomorrow night at 8 on TCM.
@jberg-Thanks for the NATANT research. I'd never run into it in the floating context. Have run into it, or something like it, in the Spanish verb "nadar", to swim, which can lead you into stupid Spanish puns like "What's Pedro doing in the pool?. Nada. (He's swimming, or nothing), Ja ja ja.
Also, not only are students not learning to write longhand, there are many who can no longer read it, and it's become a valuable skill for those of us of a certain age when something needs decoding.
p.s.
I do indeed think "The Shop Around the Corner" is a very cool oldies romance flick.
But for a Christmas flick, I'd hafta go with "Christmas Vacation" or maybe that one with the "You'll put yer eye out" line in it. But the M&A tastes maybe edge slightly toward the funny/eccentric.
(Wouldn't go as far as "Bad Santa", tho.)
ooh, ooh -- Let's not forget the epic "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians", tho. An upset/underdog entry in the sweepstakes.
M&Also
@albatross shell 1:19 – yes it is, but the songs are popular hits from the early 1900's (which is when it takes place), not new songs composed for the movie. The baby shown at the end is the freshly minted Liza Minnelli.
Another one in a similar vein that I like is "Meet Me In St. Louis" which is not really about Christmas for the most part, but ends during the holidays. Good original songs by Ralph Blane and Hugh Martin, also sung by Judy Garland: "The Boy Next Door", "The Trolley Song", and "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas".
And a nod to Anon at 12:38 who also mentioned "Meet Me..."
Joe D,
Ever hear Blane talk about Have Yourself a merry Little Christmas?
Apparently the original Lyric was " Hve yourself a merry little Christmas, it may be your last" To hear him tell it was Garland herself who told him he had to change it.
@Anon 4:54 beat me by seconds with the story about "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas." The original version was so depressing that Judy Garland refused to sing it! Here's what happened.
@Anon 4:54 – Oh yeah, I do remember reading that once. Since you reminded me, I looked it up. Here's the deal.
Dunno why I chose this Monday to do the puz, but it confirms my opinion about Monday puzzles. EVADE/elude the only write-over.
I'm with @old-timer about getting paper bills that I pay online; so true about neglecting them if they're only online.
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Super easy, under 6 min. Kealoa'd EluDE for EVADE, easy fix. Nothing else. See clue, write in answer. Got booster.
Thx for movie/musical suggestions!
For those of you on the West Coast “The Shop...” on a 5pm on TCM tomorrow night.
my instant ERNST is Haas. OK, for 99.44% of Parkerites, that's a Natick. Deal with it.
@Nancy:
At least a smart phone never set anyone's hair on fire.
I guess you didn't get the memo: smartphone antennas (the proper plural) cause cancer. It's true. I read it in "News of the World", right next to the aliens.
if Jimmy Stewart had a voice that didn't sound like a garbage disposer on puree and could act a tad, I might like his flicks. alas, not so much.
Glad to see some comments on the value of Classical Latin in understanding the roots of words in English like SORORAL [< L soror sister + al]. Doesn't look any more inappropriate for a Monday puzzle than, say, FRATERNAL [< L frater brother + al]. See also NATANT [< L natan-, s. of natans present participle of natare to swim]. Now if we could just extend the same respect for the Classical Latin res "thing" and its inflected forms such as rebus "by way of things". Or is honoring the role of Classical Latin in contemporary English a LOST ART?
There's also a nod to the role of Classical Greek in contemporary English with EUREKA and OLIGARCHY.
SORORAL, NATANT, EUREKA, OLIGARCHY---all good stuff for crossword puzzles any day of the week if you ask me.
I also didn't think NATANT and SORORAL were appropriate for Monday, and apparently the comment box's spell checker agrees with met (both are underlined in squiggly red as I type them)
My kealoa was ELUDE first for EVADE, and I happily and quickly entered MOVABLETYPE for the Gutenberg invention (it fit) until I started working on the crosses, then wanted PRINTINGPRESS but finally got the crosses for LETTERPRESS, my third least obvious guess.
Oof. The gratuitous Latin lesson notwithstanding, the idea that sororal is as familiar—-the implicit position of a previous poster- is silly.
Many Latin words have feminine and masculine counterpoints that hardly means they are equally familiar and therefore Monday worthy.
Think phallic and yonnic for example.
@Z - Actually no, go ahead and stir it back in. It's 99+% water that just never got bound to the other materials. Just the water in the milk. However, I believe that when something is an identifiable effluent, just take the safe course and run it down the drain. It's unnecessary the vast majority of the time, but it's effluence.
@Anonymous 6:38 - did you ever see a little flick called It’sA Wonderful Life? I rest my case
Sororal marriage
Sororal marriage is a type of marriage in which a husband engages in marriage or sexual relations with the sister of his wife, usually after the death of his wife or if his wife has proven infertile.
Or more so returning to the suggestiveness of my first post: sororal polygamy leading to grouper sex? Tis the season.
@Anonymous 8:39: phallus is derived from Greek; yoni from Sanskrit. SORORity is certainly as familiar as its male counterpart, and the last 2 letters can be inferred from its partner fraternAL, or from the crosses, so IMO, a challenge for a Monday puzzle, but not impossible. Personally, I get much more pleasure learning about word roots and relationships through crossword puzzles than random names of actors and pop stars.
Agree!!
One more theme element would have been nice. Maybe “Pouch attached to a man’s breeches” - CODPIECE (as in a C.O.D.). Not bad for a debut but it could have been better with a few adjustments. Rex is right about the editor being AWOL.
PS - The newspaper continues to list the wrong constructor for the puzzle. Today it’s Andrew J. Ries instead of what should be Emily Rourke.
Wince word #3: AREAR.* Still, a good puzzle for beginners. It will teach them to look for out-of-the-language words. DEMI owns the DOD sash. Par.
Rex should put up a “Kealoa” explainer on the blog like he did with Natick. It’s a good one.
RENEW TABOO (AONE IDEA)
OK,SURE, DEMI's a TAD older,
but no RELIC or LEWD hag,
it's SAFE to just LETTER SMOLDER
and YOU'VEGOT an ABEL FARE SHAG.
--- BILL DOE
Ooh - kea/loa - I love it. Can never remember those.
This was a bit on the Wednesday side of Monday. YAY, I guess. Hope newbies don't become discouraged. Stop the LETTERPRESS!
Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords
Theme and revealer are easy and pretty good as a collective.
Liked SORORAL, NATANT, and LOST ART, but didn’t know GROUPER ... which led to a SAFEplACE instead a SAFESPACE.
I’m just a bit old for SMUT and LEWD, though they might make a lusty cartoon pair.
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