Personal bidding, in an idiom / MON 11-18-24 / Hindu festival of colors / Two-player offensive sequence in basketball___ / Scurry, first Black woman in the National Soccer Hall of Fame / Subgenre for Lorde and Lana Del Rey / Performers of kickflips and boardslides / Doughnut shapes, mathematically speaking / Iconic landmark in Yosemite Valley

Monday, November 18, 2024

Constructor: Rajeswari Rajamani

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (solved Downs-only)


THEME: "--CK AND --LL" — four theme answers follow this pattern (??? I think that's it ???)

Theme answers:
  • BECK AND CALL (17A: Personal bidding, in an idiom)
  • JACK AND JILL (28A: Who went "up the hill" in a nursery rhyme)
  • PICK AND ROLL (44A: Two-player offensive sequence in basketball)
  • COCK AND BULL (59A: Like a hard-to-believe story)
Word of the Day: BRIANA Scurry (20A: ___ Scurry, first Black woman in the National Soccer Hall of Fame) —

Briana Collette Scurry (born September 7, 1971) is an American retired soccer goalkeeper, and assistant coach of the Washington Spirit as of 2018. Scurry was the starting goalkeeper for the United States women's national soccer team at the 1995 World Cup (3rd place), 1996 Summer Olympics (gold medal), 1999 World Cup (champions), 2003 World Cup (3rd place), and the 2004 Summer Olympic Games (gold medal). She played in the semi-final and playoff for third place in the 2007 Women's World Cup (3rd place). She was a founding member of the WUSA, playing three seasons as starting goalkeeper for the Atlanta Beat (2001–2003).

Her career total of 173 international appearances is the second most among female soccer goalkeepers. It is also the fifteenth most of any American female player, and the thirty-second most among all women.

Scurry was elected to the National Soccer Hall of Fame on August 3, 2017. (wikipedia)

• • •


I don't know when I've seen a theme that's less of a theme than this. I kept looking around for a revealer, or an indication of some deeper meaning to the theme, some greater coherence that I wasn't seeing. But I think it's just -CK AND -LL. Like, these are four phrases that follow that specific spelling pattern. And that ... is all. Conspicuously missing the most famous -CK AND -LL of all—ROCK AND ROLL—but that would've made PICK AND ROLL impossible, so I get it. PICK AND ROLL is the more original choice there. But all in all ... there's just not a lot here. I don't even know how to talk about this theme. There it is! It is what it is. A few of the phrases have some inherent charm. Everything but JACK AND JILL feels ... if not fresh, then at least vibrant and interesting. Still. Still. This isn't much. Sometimes LESS is more, it's true (31D: "Sometimes ___ is more") (is that a theme answer!?), but this might be too ... LESS.


The fill was painful right out of the gate. Not just bad—screenshot bad (that's when it's so bad that I stop to take a screenshot to document the precise moment at which I noticed the badness).


I was already annoyed at having to change LEGAL to LICIT (3D: Permitted by law) but at least LICIT is a word. AOKAY!? With the full spelling of OKAY? It's just hard to imagine someone bothering to spell it all out like that when they've already gone such a slangy route. It's like formal slang, this odd concoction. Looks like AOKAY is not new—it's been perpetrated on us six times before, all since 2009. A good example of "once one person uses it, it gets into wordlists and then Everyone starts using it." Well it's an abomination, please stop. A-OK, on the other hand, is A-OK—ninety-two appearances in the Modern Era and 150 overall going back to 1962. By a KO, A-OK wins the battle of A-OK(AY)s. And while I might've just winced and moved on from AOKAY alone, AOKAY crosses the equally bad ITTY. And in such an itty *bitty* corner ... Why? There should be no junk fill in small corners, especially in early-week puzzles, especially when the theme is not dense or otherwise grid-taxing. See also the choice of "EWW!" in the NE corner (11A: "Yuck!"). "Yuck!" is right. Just change that ugly thing to ELF and you've got yourself a real nice corner on your hands, no "Yuck!" necessary.


One other thing, and it's a thing I've been noticing a lot lately, but haven't had the time or inclination to comment on: what is with this (seemingly) recent cluing trend where a clue starts with a relative pronoun but doesn't include the relevant noun. So ... take [Who went "up the hill" in a nursery rhyme]. No "Couple" or "Pair" or "Duo who went 'up the hill'," just ... "Who went up the hill." That one weirdly looks like a question, but it's not a question—it's a relative clause. See also [On which croquet and cornhole are played]. Not "Surface on which," just "On which." I get that you want to save ink and/or space, but relegating the noun in question to implied status always feels awkward, every time I see it in a clue. And I'm seeing it A Lot more recently. Nearly every day, it seems. Maybe this manner of cluing has always been happening, and there's absolutely no change in frequency. I'm just noticing, and reacting to it, more, for whatever reason. Whatever's going on, I don't care for it. It's a minor issue and interferes with my comprehension of the clue not at all. For all its economy, it just seems inelegant, somehow. 


Notes:
  • 29D: Subgenre for Lorde and Lana Del Rey (ALT-POP) — a term seemingly at odds with itself. The other major figure in this "subgenre" (which is dominated by women) is Billie Eilish. But what does the term ALT-POP mean, exactly? From wikipedia:
Alternative pop (also known as alt-pop) is pop music with broad commercial appeal that is made by figures outside the mainstream, or which is considered more original, challenging, or eclectic than traditional pop music. The Independent described alt-pop as "a home-made, personalized imitation of the mainstream that speaks far closer to actual teenage experience", and which is commonly characterized by a dark or downbeat emotional tone with lyrics about insecurity, regret, drugs, and anxiety. 
  • 26D: Performers of kickflips and boardslides (SKATERS) —as in "skateboarders." Avril Lavigne, who had a 2000 hit with "Sk8er Boi," is cited as a progenitor of the contemporary ALT-POP genre.
  • 49A: Doughnut shapes, mathematically speaking (TORI) — a torus is a doughnut shape. TORI is the plural. Doesn't feel like a Monday-level clue, but then ... what is the Monday-level clue for TORI? I want to say [Actress Spelling] but then I'm old. I want to say [Singer Amos] but then (again) I'm old. Looks like they've all been Monday clues of late. In fact ... [scans alllll the TORI clues] ...  there appear to be *no* other TORI clues available. It's Spelling, Amos, or doughnut—the TORI Trinity. Before Shortz it was all "moldings": [Rounded moldings], [Column moldings], [Architectural moldings], [Convex moldings]. Shortz revolutionized TORI cluing by eliminating "moldings" entirely. In fact, his first three TORI clues established the TORI Trinity: [Actress Spelling] (1994), [Singer Amos] (1994), [Geometric shapes] (1995). Crosswords have never been the same. What a legacy.
  • 12D: Partner of tear (WEAR) — this was slightly hard because I didn't know which "tear" I was dealing with, the kind that rhymes with "tier" or the kind that rhymes with "tare." And then I wanted to put "Tear" in the first position of whatever the partnership was: "Tear and ___." But I did get to WEAR (and tear) somehow. Probably only took a few seconds, but there was a seeming lifetime of brain-spinning in those seconds.
  • 49D: On which Ping-Pong and air hockey are played (TABLE) — they are not played on one TABLE. The games in question have completely different tables, and yet the puzzle has clued it in the singular. This is ridiculous. There is no one "which" on which those two games (Ping-Pong and air hockey) are played. Each one is played on its own distinct TABLE, but they (Ping-Pong and air hockey) are played on (seriously, very different) TABLEs (plural).
  • 11D: Iconic landmark in Yosemite Valley (EL CAPITAN) — despite growing up in California's Central Valley and visiting Yosemite several times, I blanked on this at first. The hardest of the Downs for me today, during my Downs-only solve. I could picture only HALF DOME, which wouldn't fit. None of the other Downs seem terribly problematic, from a Downs-only perspective. Maybe GALLANT or CAJOLE (both nice words), or AMICUS (less nice ... because Latin, legalese, partial).
One last thing: the tenth annual edition of the NYT's Puzzle Mania comes out on December 1. If you're not a dead-tree newspaper subscriber, you can now pre-order a copy of the puzzle extravaganza for yourself (for $7 + shipping). This is the holiday supplement that has tons of different puzzles in it, including (in previous years) a truly giant crossword puzzle, which you have to put on a large table or the floor to solve. Anyway, it's an event. And now you know how to get it if you want it.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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50 comments:

Lewis 5:33 AM  

My five favorite original clues from last week
(in order of appearance):

1. Early sign of life, perhaps (4)
2. Motor coaches? (4)(4)(7)
3. Macy's or Wendy's, for instance? (4)
4. Condiment served with rolls (6)
5. Phrase on ID tags (6)(8)


KICK
BACK SEAT DRIVERS
HERS
WASABI
FAMOUS POTATOES

Conrad 5:39 AM  

@Rex: Does the fact that there's no alert mean that the NYT strike has been settled? Is it okay to go back to our old ways?

The puzzle: Monday Easy. One overwrite: roCK AND ROLL before PICK at 44A and one WOE: BRIANA Scurry at 20A, both easily inferred from crosses.

Anonymous 5:42 AM  

Yes, over for a week now

Karl Grouch 5:54 AM  

WACK AND DULL

Son Volt 6:06 AM  

Liked this more than the big guy. Agree that the theme is barely there but it worked well enough early week and I sailed through the fill pretty smoothly. PICK AND ROLL and COCK AND BULL were cute.

Winter Hours

The LICIT - ITTY cross got me initially also - but short lived. ANECDOTES, SNO CONE, CAJOLE are all solid mid lengths. Yea - ALT POP is awkward as are NENES and RELIT. Backed into BRIANA and HOLI.

Pleasant enough Monday morning solve.

Kasey Chambers

SouthsideJohnny 6:54 AM  

A touch more difficult than a usual Monday. I also stumbled around in that ITTY / LICIT section. I don’t follow women’s soccer so that didn’t help either.

The various music genres all seem kind of arbitrary to me. I didn’t realize that EL CAPITAN is a real thing (I would have guessed a cartoon character) and no clue what a NENES is, so I had to work a bit on a Monday for a change.

kitshef 7:18 AM  

Theme is a bit odd, but not in a bad way. Monday themes in my book don't need to be complex. And other then EWW, OTOE and ANAP, I thought the fill was fine, too. And we get Sk8er Boi from Rex, so all in all a good day.

Anonymous 7:30 AM  

I thought Pick and Roll was when you’re digging for nose gold before the light turns green.

Lewis 7:42 AM  

Random thoughts:
• CAJOLE is a lovely word, IMO, and has such a lovely family of synonyms: WHEEDLE, BEGUILE, INVEIGLE, and even the old-timey BLANDISH.
• JACK AND JILL made me smile because here’s this tale of two kids falling down a hill, with at least Jack injuring himself, but, ironically, it’s recited so cheerfully. Same with the tragic tale of HUMPTY DUMPTY. Not to mention the gruesome tale of ROCKABYE BABY, which is sung so sweetly.

But to the puzzle itself. I found and appreciated a higher-than-usual number of clues in this Monday puzzle that weren’t slap-down gimmes. I believe this can reasonably done on Mondays, and was today.

I also appreciated the tightness of this theme. Aside from ROCK AND ROLL (Hi, @Rich in Atlanta!), which couldn’t be placed in the same puzzle as PICK AND ROLL, can you think of another possible answer? I can tell you that among all the major crossword venues, none aside from ROCK AND ROLL, has ever appeared.

Finds like this little English language quirk are very cool to me, and thank you, Rajeswari, for unearthing it. Thank you also for a puzzle that set my mind going in many directions. This was a most enjoyable outing!

Rick Sacra 7:48 AM  

Loved this puzzle, thanks to you, Rajeswari! Kind of a poetic theme, pointing out our tendency to put language together in ways the rhyme sideways at least. Terrific monday, keep up the good work, hopefully you can construct the cycle for us : )

PattyA 8:19 AM  

An axiom is not a self-evident truth. It is a statement that is assumed, perhaps as a starting point.

Anonymous 8:26 AM  

i enjoyed it. and it is an accessable puzzle for newbies. which i think rex often forgets.

pabloinnh 8:32 AM  

Liked the NW corner way more than OFL, probably because I remembered BRIANA instanter and congratulated myself. No real no-knows in this one, knew TORI and ALTPOP from xwords and NENES from Spanish. And of course I was looking for ROCKANDROLL but PICKANDROLL is a worthy substitute.

I'd suggest that anyone unfamiliar with ELCAPITAN watch "Free Solo", which will make it virtually unforgettable.

OK Mondecito by me, RR. Really Raced through it with no hiccups, and thanks for all the fun.

Niallhost 8:32 AM  

I imagine if Rex was solving crosses first it would have moved into the medium-challenging realm. I solve all across first and then move to down and had only 5 answers in after the first pass - unheard of for a Monday. Then breezed through the downs. Also had Legal first, and pAd before BAT which messed me up in that section. Finished in 8:06 - almost double average time.

Anonymous 8:33 AM  

I found this strangely difficult for a Monday

thfenn 8:36 AM  

I couldnt get the chimes to ring because no matter how many times I checked RABiI crossing iRIANA looked just fine. So a Monday DNF I guess, which wasn't great. More writeovers than usual too (Legal, ick for EWW, CLAPS) - just didn't click this AM, tho will write it off to a shortage of sleep. No reveal felt strange, tho I'll confess BECKANDCALL only fell into place when the xxCKANDxxLL pattern slapped me in the head. Felt tougher than the usual Monday. SHARD was worth the effort though, had forgotten why The Shard was called that, being "a shard of glass through the heart of historic London".

RooMonster 8:45 AM  

Hey All !
Yes to ELF, Rex, gets an F in!

Liked this easy MonPuz. Agree it was a strange Theme, but at least it's consistent.

Not too much else to say. Brevity is good. LESS is more. Har.

Monday again. EWW. 😁

No F's (what BULL)
RooMonster
DarrinV

Liveprof 8:47 AM  

There's also "back and fill," a sailing term

jberg 8:53 AM  

I haven't read Rex yet, maybe he has a name for this theme: consonantal rhyme, maybe? A word ending in CK, AND, a word ending in LL. Am I missing some crucial element?

Aside from that, a fine, easy puzzle. Hardest part is the ITsY/ITTY kealoa--which does seem to be not entirely LICIT. I had ITsY, following the footsteps of the itsy-bitsy spider in her itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny yellow polka dot bikini. Anyway, the clue made me think of this song--I first heard it sung by Jean Redpath, but I couldn't find her version, so here's Stewart Cameron.



I also thought Spanish babies were either bebes or ninos (that second n is really an enya), but the crosses were pretty clear.

Anonymous 8:58 AM  

All Mondays are “accessible.” Some are good, some aren’t.

jberg 9:08 AM  

Good find! I've also used the term for parallel parking a car in a tight space.

Nancy 9:08 AM  

I tried to think of a revealer that would produce CK AND LL answers. I couldn't.

"Therefore it won't have one," I concluded.

It didn't.

But a no-revealer puzzle is LICIT, so it's AOKAY.

jberg 9:10 AM  

Re: GALLANT, it could have been vaLiANT, depending on which end you are coming at it from.

EasyEd 10:15 AM  

Like many here, had to evolve from Legal/ITsY to LICIT/ITTY, and from ick to EWW, but after that things were pretty straightforward. Enjoyed a little alliteration with breakfast.

Gary Jugert 10:21 AM  

Una historia de pollo y vaca es un mal modismo en español.

Here's a nice little palette cleanser after a long weekend of devouring proper nouns.

I'm trying to imagine a scenario where I might do something to earn the title "GALLANT" in 2024. Keep a nice LAWN?

Propers: 6
Places: 2
Products: 4
Partials: 3
Foreignisms: 3
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 18 of 76 (24%)

Funnyisms: 1 🤨

Tee-Hee: EROTICA. COCK AND BULL.

Uniclues:

1 Uber.
2 Gallant stories of going the speed limit.
3 Ollie conversion therapy in a box for murderous ogres.
4 Order another round.
5 Sudoku.

1 BECK AND CALL CAR
2 LICIT ANECDOTES
3 ORC SKATER'S KIT
4 CAJOLE TABLE
5 WORDLESS IDLES

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: It was hot, it was sweaty, and it was nowhere near as good as the fruitier foam party. TRYST'S INSIGHTS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jb129 10:50 AM  

I hope Will Shortz is recuperating, improving & coming back.

egsforbreakfast 10:59 AM  

I wonder what they call baby Hawaiian geese in Spanish? But I guess these sorts of questions are NONOS.

What do you call an amusingly odd basketball play? PICK AN' DROLL.

In Aesop's Fables I think the grasshopper once said, "You've got a lot of GALLANT."

Heck and hell, I found this theme to be just fine for a Monday. Certainly it doesn't deserve the mock and yell treatment that @Rex gives it. So let's just sit back and mull. Thanks, Rajeswari Rajamani.

Anonymous 11:14 AM  

Did anyone else pass through LEGIT on the way from LEGAL to LICIT?

M and A 11:29 AM  

Kinda basic puztheme, but, hey -- it's a MonPuz.
Really liked how the ROCKET can veer left, mid-course, to complete a ROCKANDROLL puztheme extra.
I reckon that also works for LICKANDCALL -- whatever that is.

staff weeject pick: JDS. Plural abbreve meat. Primo weeject stacks in NE & SW, btw.
fave moo-cow eazy-E MonPuz clue: {___ Moines, Iowa} = DES.

fave other thing: ELCAPITAN. Evokes fond mems of M&A's all-time fave NatPark. We stayed at the neat hotel there, and got to hear entertainin bear stories from a park ranger gal, in the evenin.

Thanx for the KICK, AND WELL done, Ms. Rajamani darlin. Nice, complete *CK-*LL list. Only other themer M&A could muster was a hypochondria diagnosis: SICK AND WELL.

Masked & Anonymo2Us

certified spam-free runtpuz:
**gruntz**

old timer 11:40 AM  

Surprisingly hard for a Monday. 30 minutes for me pen on newsprint, and usually more like 15-20. And yes, WEAR as the pal of TEAR was the hardest pick.

But LICIT went right in. LICIT is a shibboleth, Proof You Grew Up Catholic. Many actions you take in life may seem wrong, but are, in the right circumstances, deemed LICIT by the theologians. One interesting controversy these days is what actions are LICIT for a spouse to perform with his marital partner, now that the Church has figured out that each spouse has a moral obligation to satisfy the other in bed. Another is, it is LICIT in the modern world for a lender to charge interest, no matter what the Old Testament says on the subject. And until fairly recently, it was LICIT for officers of the State to take the life of a person convicted of a serious crime -- and of course it has always been LICIT for a soldier in wartime to kill, despite the Fifth Commandment.

Lewis 11:50 AM  

Over the past weeks, some commenters here, aware that Asheville (where I live) has been without potable water in its system since the hurricane, have kindly sent well wishes and hopes. My gratitude to you, and here’s an important update, to the tune of “My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean”:



The water that flows in our shower
The water that lands in our sink
Helene took our crystalline water
And rendered it unfit to drink

Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our water
To us, to us
Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our water
To us

For weeks there was naught from our faucets,
And when it came back it was soiled
So people did not want to drink it
Not even when vig’rously boiled

Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our water
To us, to us
Bring back, bring back, oh bring back our water
To us

It’s been seven weeks since the tempest
But all’s well that ends well they say
Today we got back through our faucets
The water Helene took away

It’s back, it’s back, our crystalline wishes
At last fulfilled
It’s back, it’s back
And we here in Asheville are thrilled!

Anonymous 11:56 AM  

Definitely knew a lot of these words (licit, tori, itty, and even nene) from their frequent appearances in Spelling Bee

thfenn 12:00 PM  

LOL, nope, not a soul. Think that was just you.

Anonymous 12:02 PM  

Smooth enough Downs-only solve. I balked at AOKAY like Rex. My knight was VALIANT instead of GALLANT for a bit, and I wondered what sort of obscure fill CORVI was and what it was doing in a Monday grid. It was just CORGI.

thfenn 12:04 PM  

Glad to hear it, @Lewis. And great song. Been a rough road there for too long, glad things are looking up.

egsforbreakfast 12:05 PM  

Bravo!

jae 12:10 PM  

Medium.

Me too for Legal before LICIT.

I did not know BRIANA.

Reasonably smooth grid with an odd theme and a couple of fine long downs, liked it.

Croce Solvers - Croce’s Freestyle #961 was a pretty tough Croce for me. I struggled the most in the NE corner. Good luck!

Anonymous 12:19 PM  

Hand up

Anonymous 12:26 PM  

Bravo Lewis! And we are thrilled for your community.

okanaganer 12:32 PM  

I solved down clues only but had some difficulty, since I've never heard of PICK AND ROLL. Of course I tried very hard to make ROCK AND ROLL work but could not think of a "finger clicking sound" that ends in R. WHIR?

Rex I chuckled at "Spelling, Amos, or doughnut—the TORI Trinity". And Lewis, I loved your poem.

Fish 12:48 PM  

I’m a dead-tree kind of guy.

Anonymous 1:21 PM  

Oh, please yes!

Sonnig Freitag 1:34 PM  

WHY does there have to be a revealer? To make it easier? I enjoy finishing a puzzle and THEN going AHA!
Then to complain that AOKAY should be AOK when nearly every review complains about the proliferation of three letter words.
Reviewing doesn't always have to be complaining.

kitshef 1:42 PM  

Croce 961 was hard for me, too. And I had a one-square DNF at 50A/52D. My answer to 50A didn't make sense to me, but 52D seemed unimpeachable.

Walter 2:45 PM  

Puzzle gets a huge plus for The best dogs ....Corgi

Tom T 3:14 PM  

Yes, Rex put an elf in, and according to a partial online definition, some might say that Rex is elfin ("with an attractively mischievous or strange charm"). But others might retort, "Give me an eff-in break!"

SharonAK 4:11 PM  

When I first started doing th NYT crosswords They were on the comics page of my papeerand were only mon - wed puzzles I think.Before I'd ever read the term "Theme" and "realer" I noticed there were often what I thought of as wordplay within the puzzle itself. They did not, that I remember, have "revealers" The theme of this puzzled seemed quite inline with those and I was quite surprised at the negative comments about it. Four phrases that follow a sort of rhyming pattern. pleasant fun I thought. Thought "pick and roll did not sing for me like the others because I'd never heard i. Even after cooling to learn what it was I don't really gt it.
@Eggs smiled, didn't laugh as much as usual at your post, but I see we agree re the theme.
@ Lwis. Good song and good news

jae 5:07 PM  

@Kitshef - for 50a think purple nurple

Shoe City Refugee 7:35 PM  

Gallantry has nothing to do wth bravery: constructor and editor have confused gallant with valiant.

Nancy 7:48 PM  

@Lewis -- So glad your water is drinkable again and I love your lyric!

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