A24 horror film in which Rory Kinnear plays multiple roles / FRI 11-15-24 / Unchanged when multiplied by itself, from the Latin for "same" and "power" / Activewear brand with a name inspired by flight / Teacups and pirate ships / Gets rid of, as the oldest item in a programming cache / Tech journalist Kara / Operating system with a penguin mascot named Tux

Friday, November 15, 2024

Constructor: Alina Abidi

Relative difficulty: Medium 


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: IDEMPOTENT (24D: Unchanged when multiplied by itself, from the Latin for "same" and "power") —

Idempotence (UK/ˌɪdɛmˈptəns/,US/ˈdəm-/) is the property of certain operations in mathematics and computer science whereby they can be applied multiple times without changing the result beyond the initial application. The concept of idempotence arises in a number of places in abstract algebra (in particular, in the theory of projectors and closure operators) and functional programming (in which it is connected to the property of referential transparency).

The term was introduced by American mathematician Benjamin Peirce in 1870 in the context of elements of algebras that remain invariant when raised to a positive integer power, and literally means "(the quality of having) the same power", from idem + potence (same + power). (wikipedia)

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[the only IMAN I know]
I rated this "Medium" but technically I failed. For the first time in I can't remember how long, I finished the puzzle but did not get the "Congratulations" message. Usually when this happens, it's because I've left a typo somewhere and I have to track it down. But today ... nope, no typo. Error. Errors, actually. When I finally found said errors, it was so disheartening, because they happened on precisely the kind of answer that I'd complained about out loud while I was solving: "... so many names. Too many names." And sure enough, it was a name that got me, and the kind of name that's most likely to be outside my field of vision—namely, some actor in some Marvel movie. I had no way of knowing that name, so I relied on crosses, and that ... didn't work today. Because with the "T" in place, I looked at 31A: Amount often added (TIP) and without hesitation wrote in TAD. "Confirmed" this with DING, which I realize now is more of a microwave sound than an "Online notification sound," but in the moment, it seemed fine. And I never went back and checked the Marvel name because I didn't know the Marvel name anyway, so any combination of letters might've been right, for all I know. Somebody named AMAN? Shrug, why not? As I say, I was already thinking, midsolve, that the puzzle was leaning way, way too heavily into names. Also into extreme online-ness. Just name after name and online thing after online thing. Every damn square from TARTT over to IMAN is involved in a name—a 22-square formation that encompasses TARTT, SWISHER, CARL SAGAN, and IMAN, and that's in addition to ERMA / MARA, LUCE / GERTRUDE, and NIN / MEN. And the extreme computery online-ness extended from PING to SENT to EVICTS (43A: Gets rid of, as the oldest item in a programming cache) to LINUX to tech journalist SWISHER to RERUN (as clued) (28D: TV term that's becoming obsolete in the streaming era) to whatever the hell IDEMPOTENT is (it's a term from mathematics and computer programming; see "Word of the Day," above). So it's only (grimly) fitting that I got kneecapped at Marvel-actor-meets-online-notification-sound. A different clue on either TIP or PING and there's no problem. Oh well.


Some of the longer answers are nice. UP IN THE AIR / "DON'T TELL ME" is a solid little stack, and "YOU'RE NOT WRONG" and "I CAN SEE YOU" have a playful colloquial verve. Enjoyable. But too much of the marquee space was used on ho-hum stuff like TÊTE-À-TÊTES or on phrases that seem overly niche ("EVER HEARD OF IT?") or slightly off—the spelling on slangy phrases in crosswords often makes me cringe because it seems so improvised, a hybrid of formal and informal spelling choices. The phrase is RARIN' TO GO, as I've always heard it. It's not like anyone uses "raring" in formal contexts (or in any context where it isn't followed by "to go"). It's RARIN'. It's so RARIN' that RARIN' has appeared in the NYTXW 19 times! Now, RARING has also appeared, but ... I don't like it. The colloquial energy comes from the elision. RARING just seems stodgy. Then there's "I'VE GOTTA GO," ugh. First of all, two long "ending-in-GO" phrases in the same grid? Why? Just ... No. Second, spelling "I'VE GOTTA GO" was an adventure. The phrase that this answer wants to be is "I GOTTA GO." That's the tightest and most realistic version of that phrase. If you're changin' "got to" to one word (GOTTA), then you're definitely dropping that "apostrophe VE" in "I'VE." Because of I'VE, I assumed an slightly elevated formality to the phrasing, so wrote in GOT TO GO instead of GOTTA GO. Good thing I checked that cross (CAMI beats COMI, for sure) (36A: Simple pajama top, casually). As for "EVER HEARD OF IT?," I know this "facetious question" from precisely one place: The Office. It's Andy on The Office, every time he mentions that he went to Cornell. I mean ... I watched every ep of that show, so I don't hate remembering Andy, but the phrase doesn't resonate for me beyond that one example.



As with every clue that involves a contemporary actor name or a computer term or golf or some other crap I don't care about, I don't resent that the clue exists. Things exist that I don't know, same as it ever was. What I resent is the relentless return to one field. The same crap over and over. Changing a simple word like MEN to an A24 movie when you've already got two other proper names from contemporary movies (IMAN, MARA), why? I literally have no idea who "Rory Kinnear" is, so "in which Rory Kinnear plays multiple roles" did not help at all (19A: A24 horror film in which Rory Kinnear plays multiple roles). I have (vaguely) heard of the movie title MEN, thank god, because I had no idea if the cross was IRAN or IRAQ (3D: Country that uses the Jalali calendar rather than the Gregorian), and if I hadn't known the simple word MEN was the title, I can imagine a scenario where MEQ seems plausible. Why else would you clue the word in this weird proper noun way?, I might've reasoned. Must be some weird name or phrase I've never heard of. I mean, if MCQ can be a movie title (and it can), then why not MEQ!? Anyway, when a puzzle leans heavily and repeatedly into its own little cultural / generational pocket, that's what I don't like. Even when I live in that pocket, I don't love it. You shouldn't be able to feel the puzzle riding a particular hobby horse.


Notes:
  • 16A: Activewear brand with a name inspired by flight (AVIA) — I guess that makes sense. Half of the word "AVIAtion." I weirdly never made the connection. Who knows where brand names come from? Well, if you want to find out, turns out you can. Asics is an acronym of the Latin phrase anima sana in corpore sano (a variation on the better known Latin phrase mens sana in corpore sano). Hoka comes from a Maori phrase meaning "to fly." I could go on, but I don't want to.
  • 46A: Macy's or Wendy's, for instance? (HERS) — this was slightly cute. Looks like a retail establishment and fast food chain, but nope, just the possessive form of women's names.
  • 53D: Fan of the Bulldogs (ELI) — this clue is referring to Yale, EVER HEARD OF IT?
  • 45D: Hair raiser? (CLIP) — I wanted GLOP (like ... some kind of hair gel?) and FLIP (like ... when you "raise" your hair out of your face?) before the much simpler and more plausible CLIP.
  • 8D: Minuscule quantities (SOUPÇONS) — the problem with diacritics in English crosswords is that they're invisible—you can't write them in because they make a mockery of the cross. No cedille on the "C" in IÇEBOX! Anyway, without the cedille, SOUPCON looks like a convention sponsored by Progresso or a restaurant scene that got cut out of The Grifters.
See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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127 comments:

Mark 5:56 AM  

I agree, there were lots of names and fuzzy colloquialisms and I didn’t enjoy the puzzle as much as I’d hoped because of them. I don’t even know what an A24 movie is, but I guess it’s something. I have another bone to pick with the puzzle too. I don’t think that the definition of idempotent was correct. I didn’t know the word and looked it up. All the definitions refer to functions operating on themselves. But the actual puzzle definition in the puzzle says multiplied by itself, which is not the same. Maybe some mathematician reader who knows more about idempotency than I do can comment.

Anonymous 6:05 AM  

Surprisingly (given Rex’s review), this was the easiest Friday for me in a very long time. Everything just fell into place, even the long answers.

Conrad 6:17 AM  


Challenging for me. Liked it even less than OFL did. The south put up somewhat less resistance than the north.

Overwrites:
INSIGne(?) before INSIGHT at 5D
@Rex I'VE GOT To GO before GOTTA (10D) made CAMI (36A) hard to see
aero before AVIA at 16A
TsP before TIP at 31A, because you often add a teaspoon of something to a recipe
oahU before PERU at 56A (my first choice for a four-letter place name ending in U)

WOEs:
The memoir WILD at 9A
The film MEN at 19A (and while we're at it, I didn't understand the significance of "A24" in the clue)
IDEMPOTENT at 24D (would've been easy if I'd known the Latin words for "same" and "power")
ERMA Franklin at 25D
IMAN Vellani at 32D
OISEAU at 41D (no French scholar I)

Anonymous 6:28 AM  

Really terrible puzzle—names, names and names which I can only speculate were intended to make the puzzle harder. I guess the editor simply phoned in a Wednesday puzzle and added names to make it worthy of a Friday. I guess some of the long answers were passable. But other than that I can not write a single positive thing about what turned into a slog.

Burghman 6:40 AM  

Same thoughts as Rex… 32D to 42D (8 clues) was 6 names (and Shakespeare!) and 1 French word. Names are gonna be there, but that’s a pretty dense section of name clues.

Eric NC 6:41 AM  

A24 is a movie studio known for its horror movies

Rick Sacra 6:54 AM  

Thanks, @rex, that makes me feel better. Definitely very difficult for me--had to google the birthplace of Mr. Alarcon. That french word was a complete WOE. And then I got deceived at the Tad for TIP corner and also Naticked at the ERtA/tARA cross! So multiple mess-ups for me today. too many names.... Oh well. DNF, first time in a while.

Wanderlust 6:58 AM  

Also fell in the Tad trap and had to come here to find out what I had wrong. Grrr…

Ann Howell 7:13 AM  

Same here! Despite not knowing quite a few of the names, the crosses made everything click.That's two days in a row that I've had a completely opposite solve than Rex (I found yesterday's excruciating...)!

Anonymous 7:14 AM  

Why would you put IMAN in your puzzle when OMAN is right there?! Insane choice.

Anonymous 7:17 AM  

I had TAD and TSP in that horrible corner, TIP never crossed my mind.

kitshef 7:18 AM  

raring to GO/ive gotta GO
Ive gotta go/I can see you
i can see YOU/YOUre not wrong

Early voting is most often not by mail - that's absentee voting. I usually vote early, but almost never by mail.

The clue for 41D seems like the answer should be "un oiseau".

EXT. I guess is 'exterior'?

WoEs: ERMA, IDEMPOTENT, SWISHER, whatever the hell an A24 film is. Wish it was a WoE: TARTT (The Goldfinch is the worst book I've read in the past ten years).

A very unpleasant and poorly edited puzzle. That clue for MEN is an absolutely perfect example of what never to do - clue a common word with a tricky cross via an obscure piece of PPP. See also WILD.

Anonymous 7:18 AM  

Hi Rex, I read this blog most days after finishing the puzzle (If.. I finish the puzzle). I just started solving in the last couple years and I am getting to the point where I can finish most Saturdays, eventually.
I was wondering why you don't (and if you could) publish your solving times as some of your contributors do? I'd love to be able to compare myself to such a stalwart of the puzzle community.

Anonymous 7:19 AM  

In my vernacular a “deal sealer” is an element of the deal that makes it compelling (”throwing in a signing bonus sealed the deal”) while a CLOSER is the person brought in to close the deal.

Anonymous 7:30 AM  

Had the same trouble spot as Rex, having no clue about Ms. Marvel, but my “amount often added” was TsP (thinking recipes) so I was able to spot the error when sMAN made no sense.

Anonymous 7:34 AM  

Yes, if only they’d clued it better I’d have surely gotten idempotrentic or whatever it was.

Anonymous 7:38 AM  

The word IDEMPOTENT comes from multiplication (as the clue says, Latin for "same" and "power", and repeated multiplications are powers), but it can apply to more complicated mathematical operations, such as composition of functions.

It's not that interesting of a concept with normal multiplication because the only idempotent real numbers are 0 and 1. If your operation is, say, to multiply and then take only the last digit of the result (the fancy word for that is multiplication modulo 10) then you get other idempotent numbers (5 and 6).

Anonymous 7:46 AM  

my tad tip trap was baited with tsp. rough spot for sure.

mmorgan 7:47 AM  

Yeah, lots of (unknown) names and weird terms, but for some reason I found this super-easy and got through it quickly and unscathed. I guess it helped to see TIP right away and not fall into the traps that tripped up Rex.

Anonymous 7:49 AM  

I needed almost all the crosses for "Gets rid of, as the oldest item in a programming cache" and was surprised to get EVICTS. Technical language changes over time---I have a B.S. and a Ph.D. in computer science (from a few decades ago) and I'd never heard of cache eviction before today.

Dr.A 7:58 AM  

Same. i guess you either know some of the “proper nouns” or you don’t. Usually I don’t. Today I knew enough to get by!

Lewis 8:01 AM  

The conversational phrases were my favorite part of the puzzle. They made it feel comfy. And, it turns out, they gave it pop, as four of them – EVER HEARD OF IT, I CAN SEE YOU, I’VE GOTTA GO, and YOU’RE NOT WRONG, have never appeared in the NYT crossword before. It’s sweet when just one chatty debut appears in a grid, but four? Alina has a talent for this.

A pair of happy PINGs were triggered by answers.
• When I filled in ICE BOX, I instantly flashed on my great-grandma Ethel, who never said “refrigerator”; it was always ICEBOX. I adored Grandma Ethel, so my heart melted when this answer showed up.
• IDEMPOTENT drew out another mathy word that has slumbered in my memory for decades – “asymptote” – a word that made me smile when I met it in high school because it looked and sounded cool, and it made me smile again today.

Lovely PuzzPair© in OISEAU and UP IN THE AIR. I also liked seeing the mini-word-ladder of LACE / LUCE / LUTE.

So, coziness, warmth and pleasure abounded in the box today, and I’m filled with gratitude for this puzzle of yours, Alina. Thank you!

Sam 8:02 AM  

More challenging for me than a typical Friday. TSP before TIP. Agree, lots of names.

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

Fed up, fed up, fed up with names. I want a crossword, not a trivia contest where you can just look up the answers. Please someone pass it on to NYT, there are enough of us who feel the same.

Anonymous 8:21 AM  

To add to what the previous anon said: within mathematics, composition of functions from a space to itself *is* a way of multiplying them. This is what motivates the definition of matrix multiplication, for example. The clue is correct.

Ted 8:22 AM  

As a software developer, IDEMPOTENT to me is used mainly to refer to things like database scripts, where the script might be run once or might be RERUN multiple times during testing/deployment but we don't want to end up with different results after running it twice or three times.

But, also as a software developer, I've never used EVICTS in that context, and I didn't know Kara SWISHER.

ncmathsadist 8:34 AM  

This was a real name bomb. I'm a mathematician; I liked IDEMPOTENT.

Anonymous 8:44 AM  

I would assess this more as easy, meaning I was able to complete it in one sitting. The several long, everyday phrases just didn't grab me, there was nothing clever about them, they just sat there. At least EVERHEARDOFIT had a little edge to it. I liked WASABI and OISEAU, although I originally misspelled the latter in my head and thought it wouldn't fit at first. I was irked at myself for taking so long to remember WILD which I clearly knew.

Anonymous 8:49 AM  

At least 13 across was properly clued as "CHAMPING at the bit" and not its ugly cousin "CHOMPING at the bit."

GAR 8:51 AM  

I thought this was fairly easy for a Friday but had a different error in the same place as Rex where I had Tax/Xing.

RooMonster 8:54 AM  

Hey All !
Failed at the IVE GOT To GO/CoMI cross, even though I knew it was CAMI. But the ole brain was like, "It can't be IVE GOT TA GO, so leave in that O." Silly brain.

Sort of a toughie, sort of not. Stuck a couple of times, but was able to suss out stuff in a relatively quick time for me on a FriPuz, 23 1/2 minutes.

OISEAU, oy! I take it that is French for Ocean. TARTT a complete Who? here, amazingly didn't even notice I had gotten it from crossers! Amazingly able to get that SE corner with no cheating!

Wanted SOUP CaNS first, thinking that those aren't really miniscule, but maybe the term got into the vernacular without my knowledge. Like that's ever happened. Har.

I CAN SEE YOU are RARING TO GO, you DONT need to TELL ME, YOURE NOT WRONG. So, see ya!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

SouthsideJohnny 9:02 AM  

At least they went all in on the trivia route today. Even simple answers like MEN and WILD didn’t escape the carnage. I wish they would welcome Robyn back so we don’t have to put up with stuff like SWISHER next to TARTT.

I think the cherry on the top of this nonsense is the clue / answer combination involving OISEAU - nice job by the editor (who was obviously phoning it in that day) ensuring that the foreign language stuff is “common usage”.

It’s unfortunate, in my opinion, because (as Rex pointed out) some of the longer answers and their associated clues were actually pretty good. They need an editor who is talented enough to adjust the clues to dial in to the appropriate “Friday-level” difficulty without resorting to stuff like OISEAU aside LUCE. That wasn’t the case today.

Granny Smith 9:04 AM  

May I put in a complaint about OISESU? Just how much French is it reasonable to expect from American puzzle solvers? I got it from the crosses, but really it's absurd.

Anonymous 9:26 AM  

Couldn't agree more Granny

Paula 9:30 AM  

Demasiado Francais.

Anonymous 9:43 AM  

Tara
Sara
Lara
..... Then Mara

Anonymous 9:44 AM  

Also a software developer. I clear cache on the daily. Never got a sherrif involved.

Anonymous 9:45 AM  

I found this one relatively quick and easy for a Friday. I flew through it comme un oiseau (even if spellcheck tried to rephrase it). Unlike Rex I will not spend time hunting down mistyped entries. I am a very inaccurate typist and frequently overrun words causing the cursor to change letters I've typed in. I can't be bothered to hunt for the "e" that should have been and was an "a" etc. Besides which there's so many more puzzles to get through.

Jmorgie 9:46 AM  

* I have been programming since 1965 and NEVER heard the term evict for managing a stack or a cache.
* Fan of the bulldog is UGA who is the univ georgia mascot bulldog. Eli indeed.

Anonymous 9:56 AM  

What a beautifully written and pleasing comment - thank you for that.

Anonymous 10:01 AM  

Agree with Rex on this one, especially with so many names in one area. Also seems like a LOT of 3s and 4s for a themeless (40)!

Benbini 10:04 AM  

Put me down as another programmer who has never heard of cache "eviction". 99% of the puzzle was easy except for GOTTAGO vs GOTTOGO, which resulted in checking the grid because I didn't have the time/interest to finish it out.

EasyEd 10:12 AM  

Way too many specific names and places for this puzzle-doer. Became a Google-fest to see how long it took to recognize the various sayings. On the other hand, those with better imaginations might have picked up some of the sayings from the clues as they are common enough and in the language. Kudos to those who cracked this one.

jock spit 10:17 AM  

tarte française odieuse

Trina 10:18 AM  

Both my husband and I (solving separately) fell for TAD/DING

Burtonkd 10:22 AM  

Burtonkd says:
I thought this was an easy breezy Friday with lots of fun colloquial phrases, as Lewis noted. Like Nancy, I guess my French studies paid off today, although I would think oiseau and particularly TÊTE-À-TÊTES would be common enough for a NYTimes subscriber.

While IDEMPOTENT and EVICT were clued as tech jargon, you could just cut the tech part off and still have enough info to get the answer directly. (POTENT = power). The clue for EVICTS starts with “gets rid of” - just stop reading and fill in the blanks.

IMAN fills all the blanks for inclusion (thank gof we’re not on that kick these days), but apparently worth complaining about if not in one’s wheelhouse.

I love the phrase EVERHEARDOFIT, and thanks for the Office reminder. I hear it in the WILD, or at least on podcasts often enough. Perfect level of current-speak, and not too obscure or trying to hard to get a debut.

A24 has been a well-known smaller production company for a while now, and consistently gets awards nods. Some of the movies A24 has produced include Everything Everywhere All At Once, Minari, Moonlight, Lady Bird, Hereditary, Ex Machina, and Midsommar. They tend toward horror, but clearly have a knack for quality.

ON shoes with the weirdly place letters means “on a cloud”, to add to RP’s list.

I could have use a Ted Lasso clue for Jamie TARTT, though the author is probably better known (and a real human).

Whatsername 10:22 AM  

A number of comments about the proper names. Wasn’t the quantity that got me so much as the obscurity. Other than CARL SAGAN and the crossword staple NIN, I was pretty well stumped on the others. Even Macy and Wendy threw me for a loop. Then add OISEAU and IDEMPOTENT which I would never have gotten without help.

One obscurity I knew immediately was ICEBOX. I can just barely and very vaguely remember the brown box and big blocks of ice in my childhood home. We kept our oleo in it. I know I know, you’re probably thinking I must be pretty old. YOU’RE NOT WRONG.

Nancy 10:24 AM  

Too many names; too many green-paint-y phrases. And I agree with Rex that the completely baffling IDEMPOTENT was the word of the day. It cost me my 1-letter DNF -- which is entirely my fault because my TETE had an idee fixe that it couldn't shake.

I had written in IDEOPATHIC, which was the only word I could think of that fit with the letters I had. Soon, other crosses forced me to change to IDEoPOTENT which seemed more than possible.

But what on earth are GERoS for the "cooties"? Cooties to me mean LICE and it wasn't lice. Why didn't I immediately think of GERMS? Dunno -- just didn't.

I read WILD and I didn't read the TARTT book (which failed the "Literary Guild shelf test" when I leafed through it at a bookstore.) But I think it won something or other and I remembered her name. Knew CARL SAGAN, if not as clued; GERTRUDE; and sort of knew MARA and SWISHER. So I was ahead of the game on the names today even if I didn't know IMAN and ERMA and MEN.

Big surprises:
There's a "snooze" folder?
"A POX on both your houses" is a misquote??
LACE isn't that hard to crochet?

Oh, well. IDEMPOTENT got me good. On to tomorrow.

Beezer 10:26 AM  

Too funny! Good post today.

Anonymous 10:29 AM  

Another unimaginative, bland puzzle with way-too-easy long answers, way-too-many proper nouns, but one math related word the constructor thought would make him/her seem smart. Fridays are supposed to be a bit challenging and a bit fun. This one was just blah.

Do most of the clues/answers now being used by NYT crossword constructors and approved by “the editor” come from a mysterious list (like a cheat sheet) of nonsense initialisms, acronyms, foreign languages, made-up words and just junk?

Tom T 10:31 AM  

As I typed in my final two letters, the B and the M in 1D, I was fairly confident that BRIM would be correct, even though I had no idea about BLINI (1A) and MEN (19A). And I was truly surprised when the "Congratulations!" popped up on my screen, because with all those unfamiliar names and weird answers that Rex pointed out, I felt sure that I must have had multiple errors.

But the happy music sounded, leaving me with one of my fastest Friday solves ever. Oddly uplifting.

The various colloquial phrases all came to me very swiftly, and caused me to check the constructor name, expecting to see Robyn Weintraub.

First visit with my first grandchild, Phoebe, on day 2 of her life--better than happy music by leaps and bounds.

Gary Jugert 10:38 AM  

No estas equivocada. {But if you're like me, you probably are.}

Important update from the desert: The sprinkler dude showed up yesterday. The house we bought has about 50 drip thingies on all these cactus-y looking plants and when he put the air compressor on there was a glorious moment when all of them sprayed mist all at once like confetti guns at a basketball game. That was way more fun than this puzzle.

I knew Carl Sagan and Hamlet's mom, but none of the other folks, so this definitely wasn't my kinda thrill ride. I like the colloquial phrases, so that's something, but lots of awkward cluing made me excited for tomorrow's puzzle.

I think I should write a song called Teacups and Pirate Ships. It sounds like a thing.

CHAMPING is the WOAH of the academic world. And a SITAR is technically NOT a lute.

😫 BLINI. YES. MEN. [Quaint {?!} cooler]. ALL. HERS. LACE. VEAL. SOUPÇONS. GENRE. IDEMPOTENT.

Propers: 12 (stop yourself!)
Places: 3
Products: 3
Partials: 2
Foreignisms: 5
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 25 of 72 (35%)

Funnyisms: 6 😅

Uniclues:

1 Where one finds leftover feet.
2 Kicks him outta bed.
3 Sight prior to a Renaissance-themed clanking.
4 Zebra's netter.
5 What it'll take to end my reign as the sweetest hunk o' burnin' love.

1 OGRE ICE BOX
2 EVICTS TAIL
3 LUTE UP IN THE AIR
4 REF'S SWISHER
5 I'VE GOTTA GO BALD

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Told bird he could only deliver pizzas after missing baby incident. DEMOTED PELICAN.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fun_CFO 10:39 AM  

Agree with the voting. I mean it’s not technically wrong, it’s just on the very wrong side of preponderance.

And I also agree on the editing. Enough here to salvage, but constructor was let down by the NYT staff.

Nancy 10:39 AM  

Responding to @Whatsername: Yes, ICEBOX was known to me, too, because, like you I'm very old. But it's even worse in my case. If there was an actual ICEBOX that morphed into a refrigerator during my childhood, I never noticed the difference. My parents always said "It's in the ICEBOX", so that's what I've always said too. Both in 1950 and maybe as late as 2000. I said it until someone corrected me at some point, I don't remember when.

But I wish they hadn't. "Refrigerator" takes too long to say and "Fridge" makes me cringe. I hate it just as much as I would hate "telly" and "brolly" if I were a Brit. "Fridge" somehow sounds subliterate to me. But ICEBOX -- now there's a strong, simple, beautiful word that says it all -- even if it isn't quite accurate. It's a BOX of sorts and it contains ICE. That's close enough for me.

Beezer 10:42 AM  

I managed to finish this puzzle with two cheats and I’m patting myself on the back for that. I agreed with a lot of Rex’s comments today, including the fact that the colloquial phrases were pretty good. I got a kick out of @kitshef on The Goldfinch as I suffered through that also but due that (and The Secret History) TARTT provided a needed foothold for me today.

Today I learned that “A duck or an emu = bird in French. I’m champin’ at the bit to use this newfound knowledge.

My post-solve search dive led me to look up A24. Someone above said it’s known for horror films, but I would say “quirky” or the type of films that major production companies might not do. (The Whale with Brendan Fraser was one of their movies) Seems more like how Lionsgate was perceived in the very early 2000s.

Bottom line: It was a “learning Friday” for me.

Fun_CFO 10:44 AM  

Same. mind went straight to a TIP/Tax debate. Confirmed with PING. Dont think I even read IMAN clue. Thankfully. Brutal section looking at it post-solve.

Terra Schaller 10:45 AM  

Terrible here in Missoula.

oceanjeremy 10:48 AM  

I'm coming out of commenting retirement just to come complain about this waffle-stomped turd of a puzzle. This was my first DNF in several years, and it was due to the coiling orgy of names in the southeast/east — where no fewer than FIVE names intersect one another.

This was the third puzzle all weak that had me saying, "Wow, that's the worst NYT puzzle I've seen in recent memory." It's like the NYT was saving up the worst for last, just consecutively worse and worse.

Does not bode well for this era of the NYTXW.

Jethro Tull 10:52 AM  

Boo. He used to and we asked him to stop.

Liveprof 10:53 AM  

Per historian Heather Cox Richardson (in her newsletter): Pete Hegseth, the guy you-know-who is appointing Sec’y of Defense, said in 2019 that he had not washed his hands in ten years because he does not believe GERMS are real.

Niallhost 10:54 AM  

Another victim of the Tad/dING and GOTToGO no happy music playing problem. Figured out the CAMI thing pretty easily and then played with the TIP/PING section figuring that IMAN is a more likely name than aMAN and then running the alphabet (in my head) until the TIP/PING ding ding ding. Otherwise an easier than normal Friday for me. Had nike before AVIA remembering that nike was some sort of Greek figure and why not a flying one?

Coif before CLIP
iRMA before ERMA

Nailed the first two long answers on the first try, but wrote 'give me a sec' before DONT TELL ME which was easily dispelled by the downs. Finished in 16:56.

Niallhost 10:58 AM  

Why ask him to stop? Because he's fast and it makes people feel bad? I like a goal to shoot for, even the ones I'll never reach. I wish everyone would post their times.

GILL I. 11:09 AM  

ERMA, MARA, SWISHER and TARTT walked into an unfamiliar bar named IDEM POTENT. "YES!" cried the MEN.... "They have an ICE BOX full of OISEAU!.... EVER HEARD OF IT?" yelled LUCE. "Let me give you a TIP...you throw some UP IN THE AIR and you'll be RARING TO GO with GERTRUDE and her TETE A TETE BALD friend BLINI. "I need something POTENT" they ALL cried. YOU'RE NOT WRONG" AVIA told the MEN. "The SOUPCONS with WILD VEAL and LIME might give you the POX but the OISEAU BLT is TRES good...." Ad so it went.

PING......

DrBB 11:11 AM  

Well geez, that was stupid-easy for me, even though I had the same issues with PPP as everyone else. 13:03, which is well faster than my 15:00 set point for a Friday. Not sure why. Only one that really irked me (not ired, irked goddamit!) was TARTT/SWISHER as next door neighbors, until I finally got the HINT that Wendy's and Mary's might just be examples of feminine possessives. Ding! Or rather, PING!

And speaking of computerese, if we gotta go there how about something a little more specific to that world. I'd love to see KRUFT or KLUDGE one of these days. Those are a lot more evocative of geekspeak than EVICTS, which is meh. Just saying. Or sayin.

Also, for more evidence of how flatfootedly inane IVEGOTTAGO is, allow me to refer you to the inimitable Ian Shoales, whose biliously comic screeds ended with the signature tag-line. "I gotta go."

jae 11:12 AM  

Medium but it seemed tougher. NIN was sitting there by herself in the NW for quite a while and the NE was also pretty sparse until the end. The bottom half was fortunately a bit easier than the top.

I did not know AVIA, IRAN, BLINI, SENT, MEN, OISESU, PERU, SWISHER, IMAN, GERTRUDE, IDEM POTENT…hence it seemed tough.

Smooth with quite a bit of sparkle, but @Rex is right about the names, liked it.

Beezer 11:24 AM  

Same here on Cooties = lice. In fact, there was an old “game” Cootie where I believe you put together the cootie to win. It was NOT a germ.

phc 11:36 AM  

Didn't know Rory Kinnear, but his father, Roy, is well on my radar -- Help!, one or two appearances in The Avengers (Steed/Mrs. Peel), etc. But I guess there's no way to use him in a clue for MEN.-(

I actually liked IDEMPOTENT -- I'd forgotten the meaning, but pretty clear how to put it together with the clue giving the etymology.

I agree, though, about too many damn' names. Either I have to struggle for ages to hazard a guess from crosses, or I have to break down and look 'em up. Particularly when the names come from Marvel "universe" films (of which I have seen one, and that was more than enough, thank you very much).

Burghman 11:45 AM  

Software guy here too - I threw “purges” in there, fairly confident that was correct. Never heard of evicting the cache.

kitshef 11:51 AM  

@Nancy - it's a plague, rather than a pox, although the generally-discredited first quarto reads 'a poxe on your houses'.

Whatsername 11:59 AM  

He must have been in heavy competition with RFK for Health & Human Services. Tough call.

Anonymous 12:00 PM  

I agree! A touchstone for me after reading some of the contributor's remarks! @egs is humorous and clever and kind, a most
welcomed read!

Whatsername 12:10 PM  

Hand up for hating The Goldfinch. Why do I always think I have to at least give those best sellers a try? The Whale on the other hand, was excellent, primarily owing to the performance of Brendan Fraser.

Whatsername 12:15 PM  

Good to see you again. Over the years when I’ve heard someone complaining about Will Shortz, I have often thought to myself, be careful what you wish for.

Anonymous 12:28 PM  

Naill, I solve on paper so no timer; get up for another cup of coffee, etc. while solving. Also, no app to tell me if I am correct or not; have to figure it all out on my own!!!!

jb129 12:34 PM  

Too many obscure names. Not fun. Seemed to shout "Look how smart I am!"
Not for me - I'm sorry :(

Anonymous 12:34 PM  

If anyone's looking to learn more about Rory Kinnear (and they should!), I highly suggest the 2-season series Our Flag Means Death.

Dagwood 12:36 PM  

Glad you mentioned Roy. He was a fine actor, one of those who's often recognized, but whose name usually escapes people. Probably best known for playing the father of one of the greatest spoiled brats in cinema history, Veruca Salt.

Rory did a fine job, imo, as the police detective interviewing Alan Turing in The Imitation Game.

Anonymous 12:44 PM  

For the life of me I do not understand speed solving! It’s like saying you had great sex and it was over in a minute!

jberg 12:46 PM  

Not that hard, if you know French. If you don't, I dunno. Aside from that I struggled with grammatical informality-- I wanted RARIN' TO GO, but after that didn't fit I wanted I'VE GOT To GO, which did fit but didn't work with CAMI.

As for callint a sitar a LUTE, well, YOU'RE NOT WRONG, but it's a slippery slope to saying that a violin is a higher-pitched viol, which is, indeed, wrong. I'm a great believer in the principle that the names of things are what people call them by.

I do think there were a lot of proper names, with the ERMA/MARA cross particularly bad. I got it, but I'm not sure how.

An ICEBOX is quaint only if used ironically.

OK, off to read you all.

Anonymous 1:08 PM  

I had Tab and bING Because you add a bar tab as well.

okanaganer 1:27 PM  

I often think I sound like a broken record when I complain about too many names, but today I've got company. Like at least two @Anonymous, I had TSP instead of TIP because IMAN AMAN SMAN whatever.

In the clue for MEN I thought there must be a character encoding problem with "A24", like it was supposed to be "2024". Of course, turns out it's yet another Unknown Name, along with Rory whom I've never heard of; any relation to Greg? And I was fully prepared to change IRAN to IRAQ for the reason Rex mentions (I remember McQ!).

M and A 1:31 PM  

Sheesh. Tough solvequest, at our house. Havin the puz use some black cheater squares over ERMA and OISEAU woulda helped.

staff weeject pick [only 10 choices]: MEN. In recognition of its A-24-way horrible clue of mystery, for such an otherwise widely known word.

(n)EVERHEARDOFIT(s) = MEN. MARA. ERMA. OISEAU. LUCE. GERTRUDE. IDEMPOTENT. TARTT. IMAN.

on the like side: ICANSEEYOU. EVERHEARDOFIT. YOURENOTWRONG. UPINTHEAIR. IVEGOTTAGO. HERS clue.

Thanx, Ms. Abidi darlin. U really drained my extra nanoseconds.

Masked & Anony007Us

no spam here. just a kinda challengin runt puzzle:
**gruntz**

jb129 1:32 PM  

Speaking of 'germs' Matt Gaetz for AG?
God help us 🙏🏻

JJK 2:01 PM  

The voting thing depends on your state. In Massachusetts we can vote early by mail, but not in person.

Jim 2:11 PM  

Easy but not enjoyable because it leaned so heavily on names (and French). Crosses didn't help so much with names, which are after all somewhat random made-up words in the sense they don't have meaning unto themselves. So it's always-- know it or don't, which is the lowest level of questioning or cluing. Or depend on the crosses, some of which were also names.... so despite some nice log answers this was a weak and lazy effort in my opinion.

Anonymous 2:12 PM  

Retired IT professional with 35 years of coding in Assembler….never heard of “evicts” in terms of programming…never ever.

Anoa Bob 2:35 PM  

I've never been a fan of random conversational snippets, stuff like I SEE YOU, EVER HEARD OF IT, YOU'RE NOT WRONG, etc., etc. All those put a damper on my solve buzz for sure.

I much prefer the likes of TETE A TETE and SOUPCON, even without their diacritics. On the down side however, I couldn't help but notice neither of those were up to the task of filling their slots without some POC (plural of convenience) help. They weren't the only ones.

Most scientist are what might be called analyzers. They study their specialty area methodically and in minute detail. Then there are the rarer types, ones who might be called synthesizers. They take information from many areas of science and put them together to paint a bigger picture. One of my favorite synthesizers is today's CARL SAGAN. He took bits and pieces from many areas of science to present his comprehensive view of the Cosmos which he defined as "everything that is, was or ever will be". How's that for the big picture?

Another clue for 33D PING could be "Sonar sound". I was a Sonar Technician in the Navy. We were called a "PING jockeys".



Louise 2:39 PM  

I had the same experience as Ann … yesterday was excruciating and today I just zipped through - despite not knowing half of the names and other stuff, the crosses made things obvious (to me). I finished in record time even with distractions!

Anonymous 2:46 PM  

A 2 beer puzzle with 4 errors
Ding for ping, tad for tip, let go for let up

paulfahn 3:04 PM  

Ha, just like Rex, I got caught on 31A Amount often added. But instead of TAD, I confidently wrote in TSP. Because when you’re cooking, you often add in a tsp of something….

ChrisS 3:07 PM  

It takes all kinds. I disliked The Whale. Liked The Goldfinch, which needed stronger editing but the plot was good and the not-main characters were good. Main character was often exceedingly annoying.

Anonymous 3:15 PM  

Thanks to lucky guesses and such, I got all the completely unknown names...um, except for ERMA/MARA. ERSA and SARA seemed as if they could do.
As a retired computer programmer / application developer, I had no problem with LINUX; but EVICTS? Never heard that term. But have I heard of a "programming cache"?NO! That's because there is NO SUCH THING!! Both the constructor and the "editor" failed here big time. Saying "programming cache" is like saying "writing printed page". A cache is a real-time place in memory used to store temporary data. A cache doesn't exist at the the time the program is being written.

kitshef 3:36 PM  

@JJK - You might want to check as there may have been a recent change. The Mass. Secretary of State website says "In Massachusetts, you can vote early in all statewide elections. You don’t need an excuse to cast an early ballot. You can vote early in person or by mail. "

Peamut 3:45 PM  

Rooney Mara’s great grandfather was Art Rooney, at one time the owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Her grandfather is Wellington Mara, former owner of the New York Giants.

pabloinnh 5:03 PM  

Started this this morning, took an eight hour break for grandson duty, finished it this afternoon, with the last guess of TARTT X HERS proving to be correct when I checked in here. Didn't look anything up, but it would have saved a lot of time and provided the same answers that I thought were right because of crosses but didn't know when they were all filled in, I. e. the plethora of names, which has been pretty thoroughly discussed with what I would say is appropriate venom. I mean, really.

To paraphrase Groucho, AA, I had a wonderful solving experience, but this wasn't it. Not Actually Appalling, but didn't move the needle very far on my fun meter. Thanks anyway.

dgd 5:04 PM  

Anonymous 7:17 AM
About Tad vs TIP. Matter of luck really. For me I thought of Tax and TIP immediately. 33 D settled which one. Tad never occurred to me

puzzlehoarder 5:05 PM  

I haven't commented for awhile but did anyone else notice that UPFORGRABS and UPINTHEAIR have the same number of letters. That froze me out of the SE for some time. TRES and BLT set me on the right path.

Other than NIN, MARA and of course CARL SAGAN all the names were unknowns as were EVICT, LINUX, IDEMPOTENT (isn't there a pill for that?)and OISEAU. That is just what I recall offhand so there was much to smoke out. I finished cleanly but getting there was brutal.

Anonymous 5:12 PM  

About early voting
Kitshef et al.
Joaquin’s dictum or close enough for crosswords I think these terms apply to this one.
Voting by mail is an old method, originally reserved to the home bound, then to those going on vacation then recently in many states, to anybody.
By definition, someone mailing a ballot in has voted early after all.

Anonymous 5:13 PM  

Me, too! AND— it’s nice to know that Rex is human!

Chip Hilton 5:14 PM  

I got slowed down with my answer of pARtYVOTER - figured, yeah, they’re just blindly mailing it in. Also, seeing as I live about fifteen minutes from Yale Bowl, I must admit UGA hit me long before the ELI.

Anonymous 5:14 PM  

The times were impossible to replicate. I couldn’t write the answers in that fast if your were reading them to me

Anonymous 5:19 PM  

Anonymous 7:19 AM
Closer.
The clues are hints not definitions. Close enough for crosswords. Especially since, literally, it works fine

Anonymous 5:46 PM  

Totally agree that there were a lot of names.
Maybe because I solved it without errors, I liked it.
One good thing , the first names were fairly common
Didn’t fall into Rex’s trap. That was a big help
dgd

Anonymous 6:30 PM  

@Peamut 3:45 And looking up her gorgeous sister, Kate, who was in House of Cards, on Wikipedia is the reason I learned Rooney's name several years ago.

Anonymous 6:44 PM  

Surprisingly a bit easier than I expected for a Friday. But especially (I suspect) since the change in editors, I’ve found even mondays which I used to breeze through much harder. I for one am sick and tired of the recent preponderance of pop culture clues. If The Times is looking to thereby broaden its readership, a lot of old line Times readers are being thrown under the bus.

okanaganer 6:53 PM  

@puzzlehoarder, nice to hear from you, it has been a while. What's your current QB streak? (mine's 23)

MetroGnome 7:18 PM  

OISSEAU??!!! With the damn CLUE in French????!!!!!

jazzmanchgo 7:25 PM  

ERMA Franklin was a real curveball, borderline unfair. Erma was Aretha's sister; she wrote (and recorded) the original "Piece of My Heart," which Janis Joplin covered and turned into a 1960s-era pop smash. Erma did get her start in gospel, but for most her career she sang secular soul music, often as one of Aretha's back-up singers. Very seldom is she thought of as primarily a gospel singer. The best known gospel-singing Franklin, by far, is KIRK Franklin. If we're going to clue ERMA as a "gospel singer," we might as well do the same for Marvin Gaye, Johnnie Taylor, or any other pop/soul singer who started out in the church.

floatingboy 7:34 PM  

I got all the names, some with crosses, but GOTTO/GOTTA got me. Took a minute to figure it out.

Speaking of diacritics, please stop using ANO/ANOS in crosswords! If ya know, ya know...

Kate Esq 7:40 PM  

I had to guess at a lot of names (Iman, Erma, Swisher, Luce), I’ve never heard of the movie Men (though it seems like an apt title for a horror movie this week), and I have no clue about Idempotent but my guesses were lucky (and I actually say Raring to Go) because I ended up with record time, over 8 minutes below my Friday average. I usually struggle with colloquial phrases, but these fell right into place for whatever reason.

Uncle Bob 7:45 PM  

EVICTS is usually used at a much lower level than most developers work at, just above the hardware. Least recently used page of binary code is evicted from cache memory to make room for another from the disk.

dash riprock 7:46 PM  

"You can't be serious, man. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!" (*J McE voice*)

$#%^&^*(&*(&!!! interrobang,,, interrobang.. more interrobangs

Fastest Fri in history.. BLINI, spotted immed., but, hang on.. let's/assertive entrance - first to drop, RARING TO GO, no crosses, I CAN SEE YOU, no crosses, thenn BLINI, boom. boom. sheBANG. The downs, BRIM, LACE, IRAN, INSIGHT, GENRE, TETE A TETES (pow), YOYO, EGO, plus a few more an' in seconds Rip'd a full quarter plugged in.

[Go out with] / DATE, 12d ?! Are you kiddin' me? This, sub-Mon. smooth, but was Rip 'plainin'? No. The bottom feeder welcomes it. Top rolled back, me an' the miss, PCH, Strokes on the dial, waves lapping in the dist... cruisin'. Rip does not require hair-pulling resistance for the climax, as so many o' yuo hardcore.. jus' axe me what I alreddy knoa. C'mon, make Rip feel so smaht. I'm not here to learn, pal.

CARL SAGAN (read), WASABI, LINUX, OGRE, and ORCA was its name-o (sub Mon. again.). Sing it, Billy.

The Rip-to-game neural-link, Zamboni'd, Teflon'd, slicked wiv the fat of the arse of the oinkiest pig. Get outta town, pig, Rip's got a game to hump.

SWISHER, she's everywhere, MARA r., love her.. even the name TARTT, dunno the Donna, but the missus and I exchanged intros with a Ms. TARTT two weeks back, an' I recall spelling her last name and stopping at the first T, which drew from Ms. TARTT a, "nooo, that would be.." So, enough crosses there and.. Rip could do no wrong.

Is TRES 'asshole' in French? Do we care? No, we don't. "Not the same/not the same, appples/oranjes.." Okay, but, so long as we see the DON'T TELL MÈ and IÇEBOX mismatches. Speakin' o' witch, with UP IN THE AIR, plus all rele. downs, more sis, more boom, more bah.

¿Spanish? Is Greek ta me. French, school, throughout. Useless until this very point in the Life of Riprock. So, OISEAU plus ev. other french ref., ba da bing.

LUCE off the L (think I musta read his Wiki pg for some reason, ages ago.. or was it a PBS profile). LUTE, IDEA, CLIP, ELUDE, REACT, VEAL, TAIL, GERMS, RERUN, EARLY VOTER (clue as literatim written satisfies process here, absentee ballots auto-mailed to everyone, which can be used to vote early and drop-boxed or mailed in), BALD, LIME, ELI (know the mascot), BLT, etc., et cetera, hatches battened down.

Except..

MetroGnome 7:48 PM  

And the damn clue was even in French. I STILL don 't know what an OISESU is, and I don't know what the clue means, either.

Gaius Maximus 7:55 PM  

Was this puzzle originally supposed to run in Le Monde instead of the NYT? There's enough French in here for an average month.

Anonymous 8:25 PM  

Same here - TSP changed to TAD then to TIP

Ukulele Ike 9:47 PM  

All of us Yale graduates should get together at Mory’s, knock back a few Green Cups, then go stand under Rex’s bedroom window and serenade him with “Bright College Years.”

— Uke, Yale ‘82

Anonymous 9:48 PM  

On a rare occasion I happen to agree with Rex - SO many names I couldn't get any traction.

Anonymous 11:44 PM  

@anon 6:05am & 4 others - me six. aside from CARL SAGAN [which i needed a couple crosses to see since i didn't know it cold] and MARA [which was a guess and the only rooney actress i know] i didn't know any of the proper stuff [either at all or as clued], not to mention stuff like the math term and what i assume is french for birds, among others. and yet...i still flew through this one, getting a new personal best by several minutes, while watching tv because fridays usually take me a bit so who cares about the timer. it was honestly a kind of weird experience. i was typing in stuff like TETE A TETES and SOUPCONS and i couldn't give you a definition for either. i don't know how a puzzle can be both super easy and not at all in my wheelhouse and yet, today's managed it. bizarre, honestly.

-stephanie.

Anonymous 1:16 AM  

That was some crazy drop like beasties
Check your head. Great post.

dash riprock 9:49 AM  

@Anonymous 1:16 AM: That was some crazy...

The opening McEnroe + rando-character-screed lines were aimed at a very specific part of the construction/editing which does not make any sense without the sequel post. In fact, the entire post is a bit senseless without the balance of the follow-up.

But the sequel was not approved. Posted it twice.

Very uneven gatekeeping. How many moderators are able to pull levers at this here clambake and who are they?

Anonymous 11:41 AM  

I’m sorry, I call NATICK on APIA crossed with OPAL. If you don’t know those (especially if you’re working on paper where you can’t just keep guessing and get instant feedback), you can’t really proceed.

Anonymous 11:45 AM  

Always thought cooties was a WWI term for lice(although they may carry germs)

Sian 12:52 PM  

Sat down with my breakfast to enjoy a Friday. Zipped through it but not in a good way. The long answers were so obvious I hoped I was wrong. The French was ok for me, but I imagine frustrating if that wasn't your thing at school. No fun puzzling. Didn't feel satisfied by the experience

Anonymous 5:12 PM  

Horrible puzzle. Not just too many damned names, frequently crossing each other, but horrid cluing as well. Cluing EVICTS as having to do with computer caches is simply wrong. You do not "evict" data from caches, you "purge" it. Or you "clear" the cache when you remove everything. But you never "evict" an item. You might as well clue EVICTS as "Removes something from the dishwasher."

thefogman 10:50 AM  

Pretty easy for a Friday. Except for the SWISHER-HERS crossing. The cluing for 46A was devious and SWISHER was a complete unknown. But the light clicked on for 46A when I realized we were talking about girls’ names not corporations. Agree with Rex. Way too much PPP.

Anonymous 11:03 AM  

It looked like a themer with long crosses being common expressions.

Anonymous 11:49 AM  

Oiseau is French for bird. A canard is a duck (don't react), and an emeu is an emu...

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