What "E" stands for in golf / MON 2-5-24 / Surreptitiously give, as classified information / Legally prohibit / What quill pens are dipped in / Dipstick coating
Monday, February 5, 2024
Constructor: Desirée Penner and Jeff Sinnock
Relative difficulty: Easy (solved Downs-only)
Theme answers:
- SCUBA MASKS (18A: Underwater divers' aids)
- PIZZA PIE (23A: "When the moon hits your eye like a big ___, that's amore" (Dean Martin lyric))
- RUB OFF ON (55A: Influence through close contact)
- "POLKA POWER" (61A: Weird Al Yankovic medley that features "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls)
"Ta-ra-ra Boom-de-ay" is a vaudeville and music hall song first performed by the 1880s. It was included in Henry J. Sayers' 1891 revue Tuxedo in Boston, Massachusetts. The song became widely known in the 1892 version sung by Lottie Collins in London music halls, and also became popular in France.
The melody was later used in various contexts, including as the theme song to the mid-20th century United States television show Howdy Doody.
The song's authorship was disputed for some years. It was originally credited to Henry J. Sayers, the manager of Rich and Harris, a producer of the George Thatcher Minstrels. Sayers used the song in the troupe's 1891 production Tuxedo, a minstrel farce variety show, in which "Ta-ra-ra Boom-de-ay" was sung by Mamie Gilroy. Sayers later said that he had not written the song, but heard it performed in the 1880s by a black singer, Mama Lou, in a well-known St. Louis brothel run by "Babe" Connors. Another American singer, Flora Moore, said that she had sung the song in the early 1880s. [...] From 1974 to 1988 the Disneyland park in Anaheim, California, included a portion of the song in their musical revue attraction America Sings, in the finale of Act 3 – The Gay 90s. (wikipedia)
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Extremely easy Downs-only solve. The theme seems fine except for two things. First, that Weird Al "medley" seems *pretty* obscure. Not exactly Monday theme answer material. The puzzle is so easy overall that the obscurity hardly matters, but still, you can feel the stretch there. The bigger problem, thematically, is RUB OFF ON. The lesser problem is that "ON" doesn't touch the embedded word, and the perfectly executed, perfectly elegant version of this theme type, embedded words touch all words in the base phrase. But like I say, that's a lesser problem. The bigger problem is BOFF, which ... I think maybe you're thinking of BIFF! Because "BIFF!" is definitely a noted comic book sound, if a lesser one. Lots of examples if you Google Image Search BIFF! Whereas BOFF ... well, it doesn't google as well as a comic-book sound effect meaning. In fact, BOFF has a different meaning, where I come from. A more ... frankly ... sexual meaning. And apparently not just where I come from. I mean, just google [define boff] and ...
You can BOP someone on the head, and that's kinda violent, but BOFF just doesn't register as a comic-book "fighting word" the way the others do. Feels like a huge swing and a miss. A fundamental flaw in the execution of the theme. So the core concept works fine, but BOFF mars the execution pretty bad.
As for the Downs-only solve, this was very much on the easy side. The only answer I really struggled with was the longer answer sitting dead center: 24D: What "E" stands for in golf (EVEN PAR). But when I say "struggled" I mean I couldn't get it from just the "E," but once I got the "N" from FIGHTING WORDS, and then mentally inserted the "V" at C_S, I guessed EVEN PAR, and was correct. I had a little bit of hesitation around the "I CAN SO" / DESTINED pair in the NE (8D: "You underestimate me!" / 9D: Governed by fate), but after getting ELK (10D: Rocky Mountain ___ (state animal of Utah)) and ALS (11D: Politicians Gore and Franken), I had --EA for 8A, so I just hypothesized IDEA as the answer there, and then from D-S- got DESTINED, and then shortly thereafter got "I CAN SO" (those short colloquial phrases that are clued as quotations are often hard to get a grip on without help from crosses). Oh, and I hesitated on the last two letters of RA-RA, fearing it would be something dumb like RA-LA or RA-TA or whatever. RA-RA is terrible fill. It's bad as Latin for "rare" (see "RARA avis," as it is often clued), and even worse as this olde-tymey song title fragment. ESTOP isn't winning any awards either (1D: Legally prohibit). The fill was mostly middling overall, but only RA-RA is likely to make anyone blink and think ra-really?
76 comments:
Easy. No erasures and no WOEs except for the Weird Al medley. The post-solve graphics in the app were an unexpected treat. Fast and fun, liked it.
Croce Solvers - Croce’s Freestyle #882 was mostly easy for a Croce. The NW was the exception. It took a lot of staring and trials and errors. Good luck!
ESTOP was in his RED FORD DESTINED to hit an ELK. BAM...he did! EVEN SOWS, the MESS didn't RUB OFF on this MAL TREND of his. He had this "I CAN SO" POWER when he'd TURN IN to the driveway of his RANCH.
The RANCH was named ALS in HONOR of his mom named MINOLTA. She was from TAJ and wore FINE JEWELS on her ANKLE. Sometimes she'd wear an EIDER MASK with TWO WEE RED INK POLKA dots on her PSA. It was the TREND for the FINE LUMENS.
ESTOP would be OFF FIGHTING the PIZZA man with an IRON POLKA stick as MINOLTA had WORDS with him. Sometimes she could SAP him of his POWER of MAL SEIZING, but then he'd SNEEZE into the PIE they were about to EAT and then KAPOW...there went the ROOF top PICNIC. It was a MESS. Even the RED BIRDS in the ETS TREE would DART away.
ELSA was the RARA of ALS. She'd be AFLOAT on the ROOF dancing a POLKA while making some EDAM in OIL. ESTOP was a SAP for love and would ASSIST her. He once APED some ODE WORDS in an ODEON hoping it would RUB OFF on her good side. Instead, she took the JEWELS that MINOLTA hid in her TIN BOFF and KAPOW, off she fled to RARA NAFTA with the butler.
MINOLTA and ESTOP were now in DEBT. They had no FIGHTING WORDS left. Her HONOR was tossed into the INK WELL SEPT. Yes, it was a MESS. All the LUMENS of ALS were EASED OFF forever.
But then.....ESTOP and MINOLTA would DART off to do a SCUBA dive at the TRE MOTORS AFLOAT Inn. They would EAT EDAM at their PICNIC table under the EIDER TREE and some PIZZA with RANCH dressing. The LEAK PIE was also good. It was a real HONOR to EAT WELLS and not be FIGHTING. They were DESTINED for RARA things.....
MINOLTA would eventually DART off to the BAM, ZAP, BOFF and KAPOW bar and have TWO WEE WELLS of imported NEIN. She was smitten by the NCO from CVS. She was a SAP for love. So was ESTOP. He would never STOP looking for ELSA. It was PAR for the course. Off he'd go in his RED FORD while his Mom drank NEIN.
And that's the truth!
Also solving down clues only, it was not quite so easy for me. Bizarrely, Rex seemed to get EVEN PAR quicker than me. I was actually watching the Pebble Beach tournament just before, but from the clue I didn't have any idea... E in golf? (In my defense, when they show the standings it's usually the leaders, and they are always well under par, so there are no Es to be seen. Yeah, that's why.) Anyway, Pebble Beach was aborted due to horrible weather, so I guess the Saturday leader is the winner... Wyndham Clark!
I didn't have quite as easy a solve as Rex because of a couple of typeovers. For 2 down "Submit homework", of course I had HAND IN, Which made the other golf answer ONE IRON tough to infer. (It also didn't help much that I spelled 13 down as SIEZING. The rule is: "I before E, except after S", right?) And not having gotten 9 and 19 down, for 18 across looking at SCUBA -A-KS it had to be SCUBA TANKS. Not so, but even if I had read the clue I still would have typed that in! And final typeover INDIA INK before INK WELLS.
Everything is greatly complicated by my suddenly having no internet access on my main computer, so I'm using my old old laptop (2009 vintage) to do all this stuff... crossword, Dordle, Connections, Squeezy... help! I want my dual HD monitors and fast processor back!
@Barbara S from yesterday, great to hear from you. Come back as often as you can.
[Spelling Bee: Sun currently -1 missing a 6er. Stressed from dealing with the internet issues so will try again in the morning.]
Pretty weak puzzle overall IMO. BOFF annoyed me too. Also have never met a single golfer who carries a one iron in their bag.
Came here to understand ESTOP. What does it mean?
Loved the theme, but agree that BOFF is a strange choice that lets it down a bit.
Downs only, 6 min? That's fast for me. ESTOP is a legal term that means to legally prevent s.o. from doing s.th.
Didn't even see the Weird Al medley. Never heard of EVENPAR so that area slowed me down a little! Like @Rex, guessing CVS and EVEN and what golf terms do I know?
So, that's Monday.
I Googled it. Estoppel would make a fine Word of the Day!
Solved downs only and had USMCA before NAFTA - seems it should have said former US, Canada, Mexico agreement?
Blew through this except for the northeast where I entered SCUBA TANKS and forgot to check the downs.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=estop
I agree the puzzle was easy, with some interesting fill. My only comment is regarding "E" for EVENPAR. That only pertains to scoreboards and televised golf, so spectators and see where a player stands in the tournament.
There's nothing in the rules of golf to suggest that "E" stands for anything.
I thought the theme was "words from the Batman TV show."
My five favorite original clues from last week
(in order of appearance):
1. Ungulate found backward in "ungulate" (3)
2. Seattle slew? (5)(4)
3. Angular movement? (6)
4. Passage of rite? (5)
5. Not down, in a way (3)
GNU
RAINY DAYS
CUBISM
AISLE
SIP
Solving on the app was definitely worth it today to get the multi-colored, cartoon-like fighting words (with exclamation ❗️ points). Too bad I can’t screenshot it for those who didn’t get it.
Pretty easy downs-only for me too, except for EVEN PAR. I was hoping for a commiserating anti-golf rant from Rex. I had the three letters from the themed crosses, but the others all looked like they could be anything so I broke down and read one of the across clues.
As for RA RA, who else can only think of the classic childhood song: “Ta ra ra boom ze ay, I’ll take your pants away, and while you’re standing there, I’ll take your underwear!”
And yes, it should be “boom ze ay,” not “boom de ay.”
@okanagener. Playing round 4 today at Pebble.
@Smith 5:02, thanks for the explanation of ESTOP, which I’ve never heard. It sounds like someone saying stop with a fake Spanish accent. I’ve also never heard of EVENPAR but I don’t know many golf terms and it was easily inferable with crosses.
I wanted to say that I love Jeff Chen’s Squeezy word game!
Nice write up by Rex - he really dissects the theme nicely from a constructor’s perspective. I thought RARA crossing the band mate was a little tough for a Monday, but it worked out ok.
You can carry a one iron in your bag for an emergency - hold it up during a thunderstorm so you don’t get struck by lightning (even God can’t hit a one iron).
Top half stupigly easy; bottom half tougher.
I did have SCUBA tAnKS for a while, and wondered what kind of theme would have BAT and ZAP.
Neither ZAP nor BOFF quite seem to fit the theme.
Thx Desirée & Jeff for your effort. Peace and 'amore'! ❤️
Downs-o was a speedy success.
IRONically, EVEN PAR was the last to fall. EVEN tho being a member of the golf team in h.s., I had a hard time coming up with what 'E' stands for. I guess one sees it on the leaderboard, right? Closest I ever came to shooting PAR was a 39 over 9 holes.
Good Mon. workout, altho less violence and more 'amore' would be 'E' for my course.
Thx, @jae; on it! :)
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On to Croce's 882 🤞, with 's Mon. New Yorker on deck.
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Finally finished the Sat. Stumper, albeit with two incorrect cells. Pretty sure I'll not forget 'Britain's Medea', nor what 'Zwieback' is.
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a DAP to all 👊 🙏
Two old men named Al both of whom have MeToo issues. Eww. Do better NYT.
Or perhaps BOFF is passive aggressive make-up sex at the supposed end of an overt fight.
It means "halt" in Espanish.
Two days in a row in which incredible constructor perseverance results in getting puzzles published.
Yesterday, Daniel Grinberg revealed in his notes that it took 22 iterations of his Sunday puzzle before he landed on the one that the Times accepted – 22 iterations of a Sunday puzzle! Just making one is a prodigious task, trust me.
Today we learn from the constructors that the NYT team rejected 123 of their puzzles before accepting one. That is, even after being waved off 122 times, they went for another! Well, if that isn’t a paradigm of tenacity, what is?
Color me inspired.
As for today’s puzzle, I liked how the fighting words were vibrant not only because of their onomatopoeia, but also because of their use of higher-value Scrabble letters. I liked seeing the anagrams WEE and EWE. And I learned that BOFF is a legitimate cartoon fight sound effect after learning that in the 120 episodes of TV’s “Batman”, that word flashed on the screen in 24 of them.
Mostly, though, I come away from this puzzle inspired to stick with things when I feel like giving up. Thank you, Desirée and Jeff for that, and for a puzzle with verve!
Never heard of ESTOP. I held off completing that corner til the end because I could t believe that was a word. Maybe it’s one of those “this was in crosswords a lot 30 years ago so solvers should know it” words but seems way way way to obscure for a Monday.
The Weird Al medley was less obscure to me. I’m not familiar with that particular one but I know most of his albums have a medley and the title often has POLKA in it.
@Wanderlust helpfully reminds us of the words to one childhood rendition of Ta Ra Ra Boom De Ay. Those old enough to Reuben Howdy Doody may recall this version:
It’s Howdy Doody time
It isn’t worth a dime
Turn it to channel nine
And you’ll see Frankenstein
Cute theme - liked how the app changed the themers into comic type fonts when finished. The revealer seems a little off - liked PIZZA PIE. INKWELLS x JEWELS and EIDER are nice - other than that some truly pedestrian fill.
Pleasant enough Monday morning solve.
Can you surry
That’s because as the legendary Lee Trevino used to say, “not even god can hit a one iron.”
Oh jeez. BOFF? Give me a break. 🙄
Also, no TRENT Reznor music clips??
https://youtu.be/KtcPriBV65U?si=Q45tBENtduL_R7L5
https://youtu.be/DApuMNoN3ME?si=H2D0IqLIS5Vu2Hz2
https://youtu.be/dn3j6-yQKWQ?si=c5ocsTmIC88Qm4WT
Ditto
Nice of Weird Al to put a KAPOW in an album title, as I'm not sure where else you could find this. Didn't know that one and have never met Mr. Raznor, but otherwise flew on through this one.
Agree that BOFF has another more common meaning, especially for some of us older teenagers.
If you want an easy clue for JEWELS, make sure it includes "crown".
@Karl Grouch-I think the language you mean is either Spanglish or Espangles , accent on the final e.
Nice enough beginner-friendly Monday, DP and JS. Didn't Pose any problems Just Sailed on through, and thanks for all the fun.
Hey All !
I'm sure it's been noted prior to my post here (haven't read y'all), but the NYTXW App for my desktop changed the completed puzs circled words into Comic Book looking action words, complete with colors and exclamation points. Pretty cool.
Easy puz. 44 Blockers, even though it doesn't seem like the count is that high. The extra 6 are Cheater Squares around the grid. As long as extra Blockers don't make the grid all 3's and 4's, it's fine.
I like reading all the clues, even if answer fills from a cross. I guess it's a case of subconscious FOMO. Har.
Got another Streak going, so far without a Goog to complete, so Streak sans an *. Mind you, it's only two or three days, but hey, you take your Streaks where you can get them.
Nice MonPuz. Start the day off right. Lessen the blow of the workweek start.
Four F's (Two Comic-ized!)
RooMonster
DarrinV
I CAN TOO
yes
I CAN SO
who? ever?
WHEE! What fun!! So playful. I had only ZAP, but I pat myself on the back for getting FIGHTING WORDS off just the first G. I loved this especially good Monday puzzle, and the pleasure the constructors almost certainly had making it is palpable.
What I don't know about Weird Al Yankovic would fill a library, but I do love me a good POLKA. In fact, I've written one -- or at least written the lyrics to one with my brilliant collaborator David Delaney. I gave him a lyric -- to be sung by a gypsy and a pirate -- neither of whom stay in one place for very long. I said "Can you make it a POLKA?" and boy, did he ever.
Here it is: "GYPSY POLKA". It's on the "Chocolat" album on the link I'm providing, about 3 or 4 albums down.
Oops. Forgot to post those songs as links
Disney
Ghosts
Perfect Drug
Breezy and fun Monday puzzle.
I can imagine that non-attorneys would get hung up on ESTOP because this attorney was until the S in SUNS made it clear. I’m generally a “close enough for crosswords” kind of person but to parse it down to “legally prohibit” is misleading. Its common meaning is to be in a situation (in court) where you are prevented from making a certain legal argument (due to the underlying facts). I think of “legally prohibit” more in the nature of “enjoin”, ie the court issues an injunction against a person or company prohibiting them from selling a product due to patent or trademark infringement. Ok, yeah TMI.
Thanks for the Zapp song More Bounce to the Ounce. Truly creative use of the "talkbox", predecessor of autotune, plus his music is SOOOO funky! (I don't need to play it since I just listened to it yesterday...).
Thanks Lewis for the defense of BOFF as an actual cartoon sound. Since the '60s Batman TV series is where most people go for their fighting words, I'd say it's legitimate and fun to think of, as opposed to being a swing and miss fundamental marring of the execution of the theme.
@Southside - great comment about the one iron!
Easy Monday, worth noting that the theme reveal is what I was *expecting* to pop up in the Sunday's "Punch Lines" puzzle but didn't.
This was so easy that halfway through, I decided to do a downs-only solve (which is definitely not a true downs-only) and was still less than 3 minutes longer than my average time, but almost entirely because I can never remember the last two letters of ODEON.
I loved the cartoon graphics this time.
I wonder what we'll see Tomorrow La la la!
Aww, cute, the fighting words turn into graphics. Love it.
Tee-Hee: RUB OFF ON ... kapow! Co-stan-za.
Uniclues:
1 Just for kicks, they landed for reals at Devil's Tower, Wyoming.
2 Service offered by those who like the crust.
3 What happens to a smash-and-grabber with sticky fingers.
4 Lid at Hofbräuhaus München.
5 How Beethoven put soooo many dots on the scores.
6 Grounds around the ice castle.
7 Cheer from one stone.
1 ETS APED IDEA
2 PIZZA PIE ASSIST
3 JEWELS RUB OFF ON
4 POLKA POWER ROOF
5 INK WELLS SNEEZE (~)
6 ELSA RANCH (~)
7 RA! RA! TWO BIRDS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Gymnopédies-ist preps to Ford-ize. SATIE SITTING IN STANG.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Excitin explosions. Explodin masks. Explodin pizzas. Explodin rubs. Explodin polkas. har. Puztheme did sorta put up a fight, in a way.
Found a comic book BOFF sound effect image, on Google. Sooo … ok.
staff weeject picks: ETS & OTS. honorable mention to the TWO to tango, a la the fightin puztheme.
fave moo-cow eazy-E MonPuz clue: {Light bulb, in a comic strip} = IDEA. Nice tie-in with the puztheme, too boot. REDFORD clue was also a heavy contender.
other fave stuff: SNEEZE & SEIZING. PICNIC. JEWELS. Anything with PIZZA in it.
Thanx for gangin up on us for a second time, Ms. Penner darlin & Mr. Sinnock dude. Nice job.
Masked & Anonymo3Us
**gruntz**
Golf Pro: Give me my ONEIRON.
Caddy: NEIN
Golf Pro: FINE. I'm after some BIRDS
Caddy: Settle for EVENPAR
I'm chuckling at a mental image of Batman and Robin taking on a squad of the Penguin's goons while the captions that flash over the fisticuffs say "Sex", "Intercourse", "Screw" and "Coitus".
The great conundrum among outdoor enthusiasts: it's EIDER down or synthetics.
Fun Monday. Thanks and congrats, Desirée Penner and Jeff Sinnock.
BOFF immediately sent my mind to the Popeye the Sailor Man theme, but the line I was thinking of is, "I biffs 'em and BUFFS them/And always outroughs 'em" so no dice there. But then in the next verse, the salty seaman sings, "If any of youse dares to risk me fisk/It's BOFF and it's WHAM understand?" So my brain wasn't completely off-track.
https://youtu.be/Cu2MHbOTx-A?si=DZ6LHtPPxLS5PS5U
EIDER and RARA were my only stumbling blocks. Didn't know the Weird Al song off the top of my head, but the crosses came easily and the name clicked once I had enough. I knew it would start with POLKA at the very least, as I think they always do.
Those two words though, EIDER and RARA? Had no idea. I had everything else filled in and was just guessing the R crossing there. Frustrating end.
The print version features cartoon-like explosion graphics around the theme words.
More fun and games for the kiddies. Not so much for me.
Actually nice to see RARA. I'd like to see it clued as "Haitian music genre" in a more late-week puzzle.
... more PUNCH than yesterday, though.
Those not privy to POLKAPOWER are missing out on the Weird Al's most hilariously stupid faze. Also see, Angry Whiteboy Polka.
Very easy & fun & before I knew it, too , had multi-colored, cartoon-like fighting words!
An enjoyable solve & thank you Desiree & Jeff :)
I don't know about the app, but the printed paper had little clouds where the fighting words went -- it seemed to me that was giving away too much, but what do I know? If the app transforms after the answer is entered, that's all to the good, but showing it before? Nah.
I did like the EWE/SOW crossing, with the nanny in the clue. I also admired the puzzle's daring willingness to assert that viruses are not a form of life; not sure I agree with it, though.
Dean Martin does a great job singing that song, but the lyrics belong to Jack Brooks. just like the lyrics to Gypsy Polka are Nancy's.
BOFF!
Downs only, so easy that I could not have solved faster without that restriction. EVENPAR should be obvious to anyone following pro golf.
Fastest Monday ever for me, which surprised me when I looked up, 'cuz it didn't feel that easy. If you must have circled letters on a Monday, having them cross a Weird Al title is definitely the way to go, in my book. Grew up watching episodes of the Adam West Batman series, so this theme was a treat and a half for me. Not a lawyer, but promissory ESTOPpel has been a legal term in the news recently enough that I almost don't mind it.
All in all, a cute and fun Monday, which is what I want from that day's puzzle. Thanks, Desirée & Jeff!
I found it quite amusing to see the “Kapow” program cover. I was also one of the speakers that day, doing a presentation on the history of comic books.
Boff! Bonk! Pow! – The Story Behind The Cheesy Batman Fight Words From The 1966 TV Series
Fun polka!
@Eric NC 6:16 am: every web site I look at says Pebble Beach tournament was declared over yesterday and Clark was the winner.
@Anonymous 1:33 am: many years ago I played with a friend who had such trouble using woods (so do I) that he went and bought a 1 iron and used it for most of his tee shots from then on.
Easy Monday sprint with a bonus if you’re doing it on line. There was a theme? Graphics!!
@Nancy 9:42 AM
You are a rock star.
From the article linked at 12:35-
"In case you’re curious, the top 5 most used Batman fight graphics were…
Kapow (50 times)
Pow (49 times)
Boff (43 times)
Zap (42 times)
Sock (41 times)"
Hey, Bob 👋 ~RP
If the FIGHTING WORDS are supposed to be sort of onomatopoeic and be sounds one might imagine hearing during a FIGHT, neither ZAP nor BOFF qualify if you ask me. I guess all of these actually need some cartoonish license to work. I read somewhere that in movies they use the sound of a strip of leather slapping against a flat piece of wood as the sound effects for fists hitting flesh and bone.
I used to be a SCUBA diver so I also immediately threw down (WHAP!) SCUBA TANKS for 18A "Underwater divers aid". SCUBA MASKS doesn't ring true to my ear. They are usually called dive MASKS and can be used for snorkeling, free diving or SCUBA diving.
Don't play golf or watch much on TV so 24 Down had me wondering if there is a difference between EVEN PAR and just plain old PAR.
@Nancy. I bow to you. The Gypsy Polka isn't even the best of the 4 songs. What happened to Chocolat? I don't remember hearing of it, so I'm guessing it wasn't ever produced, but man-oh-man did I enjoy those demos. Same with Dowager Heights. Delightful!
Anonymous 1:33 AM
About one iron
Apparently they exist or existed. The clue doesn’t mention a golf bag. So nothing wrong with the clue and answer.
About even par
E
The clue didn’t say anything about the rules of golf. The participants in tournaments are in fact golfers. Nothing wrong with the clue.
Wanderlust
About Tararaboomdeay
As a kid and ever since I always heard boomdeay.
Note the 19th Century poster that Rex included had boomderay
Since the song is about a century and one half old, and it is usually sung from memory, variations are inevitable.
I was sad to see that it was wrongly attributed to a white man who took it from Black musicians and singers, without any compensation of course. This was a very frequent occurrence.
Also it was apparently used in “blackface “ minstrel shows Another awful part of our history.
Many, many, many thanks to @Gary and @Egs -- for writing such nice things and also for taking the time to listen.
I really appreciate it.
@Egs -- David and I tried for years and years-- beginning in 2010 -- to try and get rights from Harvey Weinstein to adapt "Chocolat". Our attempt began when the company was called Miramax and continued into the time when it became the Weinstein Co. Joanne Harris, the author of the book upon which the film was based, made the huge mistake of selling Harvey the stage rights when he bought the film rights from her.
We sent our demo to Miramax and they claimed to still have it when they became the Weinstein Co. We were never able to speak to anyone who could greenlight it, only to their legal department. Everyone we spoke to claimed to never have listened to it -- and they probably never did. They said that listening to it "could only cause us trouble" because what if someone else wrote the musical and there were...similarities.
But it's 14 years later and NO ONE has done this musical. Harvey was hanging on to the rights for himself, evidently. No one is sure what he planned to do with them.
David and I eventually tracked down Joanne Harris in London, wrote her, asked if she wanted to hear our demo and she said yes. She told us she loved it. What we didn't know was that other composer/lyricist teams were also pursuing rights -- I don't know who they were, but most likely at least some of them were better known than we were (a very low bar.) But none were successful and Joanne was really, REALLY upset. There was a long article about it in the British press.
A paywall prevents me from reproducing that article, but here's the Intro:
"Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein in stage row with 'Chocolat' author Joanne Harris
Harvey Weinstein, the Hollywood producer, is accused of stifling Joanne Harris's efforts to turn her best-selling novel 'Chocolat' into a stage musical.
By Richard Eden
20 March 2011 • 6:28am"
I agree that this was an enjoyable puzzle.
I like that Rex’ s criticism of BOFF is at least undermined by the Batman series. I watched that series in the ‘60’s but had forgotten boff.
ESTOPPEL as has been noted is a fairly common (among lawyers that is) legal term, so it is not some outdated word as someone thought. Clearly, it was put in out of necessity, and the crosses were fair. Thought it was okay in the circumstances.
I have no real complaint about the quote from That’s Amore appearing in the puzzle clue/ answer. Jberg noted the error about the lyricist. But I think Jberg did Martin a favor by correcting the record. A lot of Italian Americans like the song for some reason. I ( my grandparents all immigrated here from Italy in the 1890’s) have an entirely different reaction I particularly can’t stand the lyrics, and I don’t like the music either The music and lyrics were commissioned by Jerry Lewis for Dean Martin to sing in the Caddy. Apparently, there were tensions in their comedy partnership- they broke 2 years later) and Lewis thought a hit for Martin might help. The music is a parody of Neapolitan organ grinder music and people found and find the lyrics funny and lighthearted . It did become a big hit
Many older Italian Americans like to sing and I am one big exception.
Nothing Italian about it., except the Italian American singer.
End of rant
Not a fan of the EIDER/RARA cross, especially for an easy breezy Monday, but other than that it was fun.
Solved with downs only. Thought with the ONE IRON and EVEN PAR that this was going to be a golf themed puzzle. And it wasn’t.
BAM, ZAP and KAPOW are OK. BOFF, not so much. It should have been replaced by Bang or BOnk.
BiFF I can buy. BOFF, not so much. Well, the artwork is kinda cool, I guess, but it's basically circles, or shaded areas, or some such. Less than thrilling.
I haven't heard PIE at the end of PIZZA since Dean Martin did "That's Amore." Now it's just a PIZZA. And I'm getting hungry.
I'd like to give it an EVENPAR, but...oh, okay. The KAPOW one was cute. Par.
Wordle par. Thought of the word on my third shot, but thought, nah, it can't be that. It was that.
Personally, I thought the puzzle was absolutely BOFFo!!!
ODE TO A SAP
For ONE TO swear with HONOR?
That IDEA's for the BIRDS,
EWE are DESTINED TO be A goner
and EAT those FIGHTINGWORDS.
--- TRENT REDFORD
Adam West and Burt Ward would be proud. KAPOW! BOFF, I don't know; need a few more LUMENS in my IDEA bulb there.
Wordle birdie
Yup - POW, ZAP, BAM - and another Monday was completed before the first cup of coffee was finished. Even after "staying up" to watch the Fashion Show last night.
Diana, LIW
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