Belligerent, in British slang / TUE 2-20-24 / N.H.L. team with a mythological eponym / Cop-turned-vigilante in a postapocalyptic film / Courtier who oversees Hamlet's duel with Laertes / Hero of Narnia in C.S. Lewis / Crooner Mel who was called "The Velvet Fog" / Swiss founder of analytical psychology / Upper part of a Vandyke beard, informally
Tuesday, February 20, 2024
Constructor: Robert S. Gard
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (very name-heavy, so "difficulty" level is gonna vary widely)
Theme answers:
- BIKINI TAN (17A: Evidence of a day at the beach)
- LAVA CAKE (25A: Chocolate confection with a molten core)
- CONTACT HIGH (36A: Effect of secondhand pot smoke)
- WILD IDEA (49A: Flight of fancy)
Ted Chiang (born 1967) is an American science fiction writer. His work has won four Nebula awards, four Hugo awards, the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer, and six Locus awards. His short story "Story of Your Life" was the basis of the film Arrival (2016). He was an artist in residence at the University of Notre Dame in 2020–2021. Chiang is also a frequent non-fiction contributor to the New Yorker Magazine, most recently on topics related to computer technology, such as artificial intelligence. [...] Former US president Barack Obama included Chiang's short story collection Exhalation in his 2019 reading list, praising it as the "best kind of science fiction". // Chiang has commented on "metacognition, or thinking about one’s own thinking" being something most humans, but neither animals nor current AI, are capable of, and that capitalism erodes the capacity for this insight, especially for tech company executives. (wikipedia)
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It's a shame the theme kind of breaks down at multiple levels, because it's got ... something. It's trying valiantly to stretch that "BAKED" metaphor, and gets closest with CONTACT HIGH (which sits, appropriately, in the marquee position, dead center). It's possible the pot meaning seems most relevant to me because there is a late '90s pot comedy called HALF-BAKED. There's also a Ben & Jerry's flavor, which (I'm now realizing) may be a pot pun as well. I mean, yes, it contains "baked" goods (chocolate chip cookie dough and fudge brownies), but it's also probably the perfect food if you're high and have the munchies. But then most food fits that description, so who knows? What I do know is that HALF-BAKED is about the worst movie I've ever seen. I should say "seen," quote unquote—I did go to see it, in the theater, when it originally came out (I wanna say 1998 ... wow, yes, how did I remember that?), but I walked out after about half an hour when I realized that a. I was not laughing, and b. if I rushed home I could still catch back-to-back episodes of The Simpsons in syndication (there was no on-demand television in the 20th century, kids, you had to catch it in Real Time (RIP, Real Time) ... or else have the foresight to set your VCR—a cumbersome process). I can't remember why I, a non-pot-enjoyer, thought HALF-BAKED would be a good fit for me. I must've reasoned: "Jon Stewart, Dave Chappelle ... what could go wrong?" Plenty, it turns out.
As for the non-thematic fill in today's puzzle, it is ... I wanna say "HALF-BAKED," but I think it might be worse than that. I mean, the olde-tymey slang alone is bludgeoning (NERTS! MOOLA! Lah-di-DAH!), but then there are not one but two Shakespeare characters (including OSRIC, who remains alive in popular consciousness solely because of crosswords) (10D: Courtier who oversees Hamlet's duel with Laertes), and then old names like ELIE and TORMÉ and at least one abbr. I haven't seen for years (SSGTS), and then the always terrible prepositional phrase IN A TUB (38D: Like "three men" of nursery rhyme). IN A TUB makes EAT A SANDWICH seem brilliant (protip: never EAT A SANDWICH IN A TUB—bathing and foodstuffs are pleasures to be enjoyed separately). The puzzle really leans into names. While none of them were unknown to me, I don't think OSRIC / ASLAN is a great cross (not inferrable if you don't know both names, and plenty of people won't know at least one of those), and I don't much like TORMÉ crossing a late-model NHL team either. The Seattle KRAKEN have only been in existence since 2021! (46D: N.H.L. team with a mythological eponym) I guess the "R" in that cross should be inferrable (in that KRAKEN is a widely known mythological character), but still, crossing proper nouns ... you gotta be careful. Ted CHIANG will probably be unknown to many. In fact, I'm not sure how *I* knew him. I have yet to read anything by him (though it sounds like I should). Anyway, I'm not complaining about his name at all, just noting that it's Yet Another Name in this Namey puzzle. At least he's crossed fairly (even if one of those crosses is the horrid IN A TUB).
MAD MAX (9D: Cop-turned-vigilante in a postapocalyptic film), OLIGARCH (11D: Member of a powerful ruling elite), and CARL JUNG (36D: Swiss founder of analytical psychology) are all vibrant answers, so it's not all bad news with the non-thematic fill. But still, too much of the grid felt like sludge today. There were no real tough parts today, though. Puzzle played pretty easy for me. I wrote in VIDI before ISAW (21A: Middle of a classic boast from Caesar), and BOLD IDEA (!?) before WILD IDEA, and I spelled CARL with a "K" initially, but other than that, no problems. That's all for me today. See you next time.
111 comments:
Saying Aslan is the hero of Narnia is like saying Jesus is the hero of Christianity. Off.
Easy and easier than yesterday’s for me. No real problems other than being suspicious of the spelling of OLIGARCH.
I also knew CHAING and also did not know how I did.
Reasonably smooth grid but I agree with @Rex that some of the theme answers stretch the concept of HALF BAKED…probably close enough for Xwords though…mostly liked it.
How is there no comment on the NERTS/TIMON cross? I came here specifically to bathe in your ire! Oh, well. Maybe it wasn't as horrible as I thought.
Never caught on to the theme, and even after reading Rex Parker's column I still don't get it. But I solved the puzzle fairly quickly, with help from trial-and-error in the NE. Couldn't remember OSRIC, and didn't know MADMAX, so the cross with ASLAN came slowly.
I had "icily" for a while instead of DRILY, which compounded my NE problem. I think the correct (preferred?) spelling is "dryly."
DRyLY before DRILY at 19A, quickly fixed by OLIGARCH
Wanted NERTz (I don't know why) at 23D but decided it must be an S because NISSAN.
Similarly, wanted kARL at 36D JUNG but the C was already in place from CONTACT HIGH.
CHIANG (41A) was a total WOE but fairly crossed.
It was every bit as bad as you thought.
Full share your ire
My first DNF on a Tuesday, maybe EVER. Didn't know CHIANG or STACHE (but made a correct guess on that one), but I also didn't know TIMON, and WTH is an "uber-fan" STAN????
Add to that all the old-timey slang and crosswordese (does anyone really use "snark" as a verb?), and this was just a mess for me.
To paraphrase Roger Ebert, I hated this puzzle. Hated hated hated hated hated this puzzle.
Could HALF BAKED for BIKINI TAN refer to the fact that there is a half (almost) of you that is not baked?
Sorry—both of those are gimmes for me, but I think you have a point (as you can see, I wasn’t a fan of either answer) ~RP
I thought the same
Yuk. Trivia Tuesday. No joy in slogging through this mess today. MADMAX, OSRIC, ASLAN, AGGRO (?) x CHIANG . . . and on and on. A Tuesday stinker.
DRILY - is an alternate spelling. The clue could have indicated "Variation".
Agree agree agree!
STAN is now slang due to an Eminem song of the same name about an obsessive fan.
I did the same! Crossing a word that peaked in popularity in the 1930s (according to Ngram) with Shakespeare’s 33rd most produced play (according to Shakespeareances) seems like a reach. The idea we could infer either is really half-baked.
Seeing Ted CHIANG in the today’s puzzle brought a smile. I read his work after seeing the movie Arrival, based on one of CHIANG’s short stories. Worth checking out!
Gee, I kinda liked this puzzle. Just what I’m looking for on a Tuesday.
Thanks, Rex, for that sample of Mel Torme’s percussive chops. I always hoped to see a muppet version of him called the Velvet Frog.
If Jesus isn’t the hero of Christianity, then who is?
I was on the way to a personal best Tuesday. Then I found myself in Natick at the CHIANG/AGGRO cross. Had to type random letters to find the G. Weird — never heard of either the author or the slang term. The rest was insanely easy.
I’d like to hear more on Stan. I think it might be a portmanteau of stalker and fan. Also, Eminem had a song “Stan” about a stalking fan, but I’m not sure if the word existed before the song, or if Eminem coined the phrase. In either case, by this definition I wouldn’t consider a Stan an Uber-fan, more of a creepy fan. Anyone, anyone? Bueller?
Definitely agree. Tried D, F, then T. If that didn’t work, I was going to run the alphabet.
A German here, re 34 down. In absolutely no context at all can ACH mean the same as „Geez“. I guess they just bank on people going „Three letters, German, must be ACH“, and don’t bother editing anymore. Adds another layer of mediocrity to an already unenjoyable puzzle.
I knew the Shakespeare guys-I mean, OSRIC is not a name you're likely to forget, but met Mr. CHIANG just today. How do you do? No real problems otherwise, and I agree with OFL that the HALFBAKED theme only sort of works.
I found a couple of things jarring. One was the singular TRAWL-hey, anybody seen my TRAWL? and the other was SNARKED, which implies that SMARK can be a verb. What, I'm mad at him because he SNARKED me? Really?
Interesting idea, RSG. Must have Really Sounded Good to you, but I think it just missed. Thanks for a medium amount of fun.
Nifty little theme with odd - scrabbly and trivia based fill. HALF BAKED is a neat revealer - stands strong on its own. Agree with the big guy that the themers felt a little off.
A quick scan shows a Q less than a pangram - the J’s and K’s felt forced as did the convenient entries - SSGTS, IN A TUB and STACHE. Knew CHIANG but backed into TIMON. The LAVA CAKE - SEX stack is cool as is OLIGARCH.
Disjoint - but pleasant enough Tuesday morning solve.
Laugh, Laugh
Rex walked out on HALF BAKED. It is vanishingly rare for me to start a movie and not finish it. Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is Transformers. It is also very rare, though not quite as rare, for me to start a book and not finish it. The last time it happened was with Ted CHIANG's Stories of Your Life and Others, a collection of his short stories. After reading the first two stories, I gave the book away.
This is Ted Chiang's third appearance in the NYT puzzle, and his second appearance as Rex's Word of the Day (see June 30, 2021).
Not a terribly pleasant solve for me.
Bad vibes mainly starting in NE, with OSRIC, and then a big pet peeve with the 12D. LALAKER. Sure, it’s correct and valid, but arbitrarily adding on the city/state/location to a team mascot is the same as throwing on the state abbreviation when cluing a city, like “HelenaMT”. Plus no one is saying LALAKER. Plus, obviously cluing for the mascot, and there is no other Laker, in California or otherwise. Anyway, just an irritation of mine.
Then, as already pointed out, name after name after name, fittingly ending with the Toy Story’s ANDY. I mean, why not, right? And, like yesterday (ADRIAN), some “name” entries are uncharacteristically obscure for their spot in the week.
Plural abbreviation for Staff Sergeants is pretty rough.
On his top-secret, puzzle tracking spreadsheet, can’t see @Rex giving this much more than a 5/10, if that…
A scientific experiment I conducted with friends in college conclusively found that the best food for eating when you’re high is chocolate chip pizza.
IN A TUB is a Kansas City fast food joint of some repute, so I will never share RP’s ire at seeing it in a puzzle.
http://www.andreabroomfield.com/2022/02/an-ode-to-in-tub-northland-icon.html
Dryly is spelled with a Y
FH
The clue on AGGRO is all wrong. The word doesn't mean 'belligerent' in the sense of a person who is a belligerent or whose manner is belligerent. The word AGGRO is used (really, used to be used; it's more of a 1970s word from soccer violence) to describe aggressive or violent action: "After the game let's 'ave some aggro with the other team's fans - - then go down the boozer for a few pints!" At that time, the belligerents wore heavy construction boots they called 'Bovver boots'.
STAN?! Really ?🤔
I stopped getting in "wheelhouse" debates on this blog a long time ago, but today pulled me back in. I was surprised by all the complaints about names and quaint old vocabulary. I mean, it's a crossword puzzle. You'd think there would be some appreciation for language per se, and an interest in expressions from the past (MOOLA, lah-di-DAH, NERTS). As for names, I mean, it's the New York Times, where literature, arts, and fashion are right up there with politics, economics, and world events. Until recently, I suppose, its readers would have been expected to know "TIMON of Athens" and LAERTES at a very minimum. ASLAN is a crossword staple and C.L. Lewis and the Chronicles of Narnia are epochal. Mel TORME stands beside Sinatra, Bennett, Ella, and Billie among classic voices of the American songbook. MAD MAX??? That movie—which I saw when it was first run in 1979—put Mel Gibson on the map and virtually invented the dystopian genre in contemporary film. Oh, and @Anonymous - 6:52 AM, while the term STAN did originate with the Eminem song, it is also thought to be is a portmanteau of "stalker" and "fan." There's a Pet Shop Boys song called "The Night I Fell in Love" in which a gay fan goes home with an Eminem-like pop star after meeting him backstage after a concert, and the star at one point says in jest, "Hey, man! Your name isn't Stan, is it?" By that point, the idea of a generic stalker fan and the Stan of the Eminem song have completely coalesced.
It did not originate with the Eminem song; in fact, the speaker is making a joke when he says, "Your name isn't STAN, is it
Some very rough fill in this, so can't say I much enjoyed it unfortunately. Ran the alphabet on the 'R' of TORME as Rex suggested could happen.
As mentioned above, the AGGRO clue is wrong. I've noticed this often happens when a clue mentions something like "In Britain". At best AGGRO would be belligerence, but certainly not belligerent. Surely they can find a Brit to check these sorts of things with... there are a lot of us about!
For at least 20 years, the Army has used “SSG” for the staff sergeant rank abbreviation. The Marines use “SSgt.”
I thought it was 'half baked' because half of the two word answers could be 'baked'. If you have a tan, you baked in the sun. You bake a cake. If you're high, you're 'baked'. But then it fell apart for me with idea. Disappointing theme. Ok puzzle.
I keep hoping these will get better but it only seems to be a downhill spiral. The AVCX and the New Yorker are much more fun these days usually. However I do greatly enjoy @Rex and the puzzle people should know that is the only thing keeping me here with the NYT. And also AVCX and New Yorker are not daily .
Well, Robert has range, his first two Times puzzles being a Saturday and Tuesday. Range like that makes him capable of hitting the cycle (having a puzzle published every day of the week), and even to hit it in his first seven puzzles, a feat only accomplished by Andrew Ries in 2017. So, Robert, I say – “Get KRAKEN!”
A highlight for me of his first puzzle was the clue [Clipper’s bounty], seven letters.*
HALF BAKED has been used a handful of times as a theme before, among the major venues, but never like this. Mainly it has played on the word HALF, whereas today it plays on BAKED – a very clever twist.
When my eyes fell on BEAU and TAI in today’s finished grid, my brain shouted “Bow tie!”. And trying to guess the revealer easily satisfied my brain’s work ethic – a Tuesday gift.
Thank you for that, Robert, and for a puzzle that had a different feel than usual – a very good quality in a puzzle, IMO.
* COUPONS.
Krossword Karen sends a half baked muffin back to the kitchen.
I realize this isn’t about today’s puzzle, but this came out yesterday and it was too funny not to share: https://xkcd.com/2896
AGGRO crossing CHIANG was impossible. But I think "In a Tub" perfectly fine since it's in a poem that every English-speaking toddler knows.
I got everything but what did me in was spelling it DRyLY which pissed me off. A LOT. wtf is drily
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Never know if it's ELIA or ELIE, today went with ELIa, because the ole brain convinced me the JEaR was the correct spelling. Silly brain.
Had that, plus another letter for a two-letter DNF. Dang, can't seem to get a Streak going.
Other spot? DRyLY/OLyGARCH. The spelling of DRYLY as DRILY should be expunged from all history.
Har.
Decent puz for a Tuesday. Liked the HALF BAKEDness of the Themers. Tough fill in the SW corner, but it all works well.
First read DONUT clue as: Drinkable edible, so that was a mystery for a bit. Got all the way to _ONUT, thinking there was a new Dunkin' coffee flavor or something. Good stuff.
Related to HALF BAKED (sorta kinda) is Half Assed. My question is, if something is done well (as opposed to Half Assed), is it Full Assed? Or Non Assed?
Discuss
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Two F's
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The Mel Torme snippet was worth the price of slogging thought the puzzle. Thanks, Rex
Learned Mel pounds a mean drum!
Theater of the absurd—in a way that’s what science fiction writers do—they stretch the imagination. This puzzle also comes loaded with some stretched PPP and slang so might be considered HALF BAKED in itself, but all in good fun.
36A is dead wrong. The whole thing about a CONTACT HIGH is that you get it withOUT ingesting or inhaling anything other than the good mood of your companions. My friend D** doesn't touch the stuff but when she gets around people who are high she gets all giggly and laughs at the same stupid jokes as anyone else. If you get high from second hand pot smoke, that's just called "high."
HALF-BAKED...is there a meta element here? I agree with @Rex that the theme has "got...something" (I'd say, quirky and funny) but doesn't quiiite work for all of the theme answers. Still, fun to solve! Otherwise, luck of the draw on the names meant I didn't notice how many there were until reading @Rex and the comments. One of the days it helps to be old and with a zillion crosswords under your belt.
Totally with you on this one and also the Chiang /Aggro cross was total Natick city for me
* Happy World Day for Social Justice. This pretty much tops every other celebration today, but it’s also:
* National Love Your Pet Day (surely applies to every day)
* And this pleasant trio: National Comfy Day, National Cherry Pie Day and National Muffin Day.
* I checked to see if there was a National LAVA CAKE Day, but LAVA CAKEs are subsumed into National Chocolate Cake Day on Jan. 27. Damn, we missed it!
I’m prepared to swallow most puzzle themes but I also thought this one was, well, HALF-BAKED or in Rex’s words, poorly thought-out. The most inexplicable themer to me was BIKINI TAN, which suggests you’re 90% tanned, doesn’t it? I also shared Rex’s reservations about WILD IDEA. I guess a LAVA CAKE is HALF-BAKED, but there’s something about the fact that it’s supposed to be that doesn’t sit well with the crackpot implications of HALF-BAKED. Although (thinking aloud here) maybe the notion of absurdity that usually accompanies the adjective HALF-BAKED is deliberately missing from all themers except WILD IDEA. OK, I’m officially overthinking this.
I was so lucky with the names today – I knew ‘em all. Goofed on the mythologically named NHL team, though, and stuck in “devils.” Without doing any research at all, I wonder if DRILY is more common in British English. And speaking of Britishisms, I think AGGRO is a noun, i.e. aggravation, so better clues than [Belligerent] would be [Maximum annoyance] or [Extreme exasperation]. For [Unimportant things] I wacked in TRIviaS and thought, “Oh no, that’s horrible.” Imagine my delight when it turned into TRIFLES through crosses. (Hey, TRIFLES are also delicious desserts – hmm, I can’t seem to shake the allure of the aforementioned Cherry Pie and LAVA CAKE.)
UNICLUES:
1. Thank god – he only bathes once a year.
2. Car owners’ sad songs after the latest recalls.
3. The most dangerous Russian plutocrat of them all.
4. Air kisses and fake smiles.
1. MAD MAX IN A TUB
2. NISSAN DIRGES
3. OLIGARCH KRAKEN
4. SOIREE TRIFLES
[Spelling Bee: Sun and Mon, 0. Two in a row’s good although I’m not much for streaks. My longest streak of all time took place last month with 8 in a row – that was awesome. I checked out the SB Stats page at @Roo Monster’s suggestion and found that I get QB 42.1568% of the time. I was thinking it was about 50% so I was giving myself a little too much credit. Well, something to shoot for: making up that 7.8432%!]
CHIANG/AGGRO was a definite Natick—at least for me
This puzzled KEELED it. Naughty fun this little grid of salaciousness. It's like the puzzle is a rap song written by one of those HALF BAKED "Imma be rich" poets, and you feel a little less innocent for having played a part in it. No amount of HAJ ZEN will keep you out of the gutter on this one.
The puzzle put the NOOK in NOOKY. It's BIKINI TANS didn't BORE. It's MADMAX ended in SEX while drinking MAI TAIS in a NISSAN. You become a STAN of [Exhalation] as you develop a CONTACT HIGH and the only words you can still utter are ERR and DAH as you stuff DONUTS. It's a TIT SOIREE full of the best kind of one particular bird, and STACHE wearers jump IN A TUB with their POKERS.
Let's JEER some TRIFLES: AS IT IS, I was blocked out of the CHIANG / HAN / AGGRO crossings and ended up going way over my typical Tuesday time because of them.
I have said many times there's a 5th grade boy with a love of "pull my finger" humor in charge of the slush pile, and after today you constructors might admit it's more than a WILD IDEA.
There, I have SNARKED.
Uniclues:
1 Bones for crackers one earns at the post office.
2 Dessert for the card game.
3 Where I live.
4 "I bet I could be on a Seinfeld episode."
5 What a NYTXW editor is doing right now if recent puzzles are any indication.
6 Sad songs celebrating the boring but reliable.
7 What a rich ruler keeps in his fish tank.
8 When Kobe hosted the Lyres in Heaven awards.
9 Adam warning his sons about who not to date.
1 USPS RITZ MOOLA
2 NERTS LAVA CAKE
3 MAITAI ACRE
4 TORME WILD IDEA (~)
5 CLU(I)NG HALF BAKED
6 NISSAN DIRGES
7 OLIGARCH KRAKEN
8 LA LAKER EMCEED
9 ANY EVE ... DEADLY
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Poop patrol. OOPS CHORE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My bro-in-law Mitch, who passed away last year one week shy of 94, once remarked that he was astounded at the level of ignorance "out there." When I asked him how so, he explained that he ran into a woman at an adult ed class "who actually did not know what a logarithm is." Since I have no idea what a logarithm is either, I said, "Well, I don't think that necessarily marks you as a complete idiot, does it?" And he said, "Oh, please -- it's like never having heard of Shakespeare."
I love that story and told it at his funeral. What a life to have lived that you would think the average man knows what a logarithm is. Anyway, I thought of Mitch today when I filled in TIMON (of Athens) easily. I'm astounded that there are folks out there who didn't know it.
While I agree with Rex that this was somewhat burdened by proper names, that’s where our opinions diverge. Aside from the trivia, I really liked this and thought the theme was very clever, and all four themers work just fine. At first when I just saw the TAN and the CAKE, it seemed kind of ho hum. Then I realized how funny the meaning related to CONTACT HIGH was and how many times I have thought to myself that some WILD IDEA sounded pretty HALF BAKED. Thank you Robert; I had fun with it.
Check my profile picture for a theme-related smile, perhaps even a laugh. I rarely change my avatar, but couldn’t resist including one of my favorite Gary Larson cartoons ever.
Dustin Hoffman's Dad in The Graduate: "Ben, this plan seems pretty half-baked." Ben: "Oh, it's fully baked!"
That Torme clip is from The Judy Garland Show, which ran on CBS for a single season. The show was doomed from the start, as CBS put it up against NBC's color juggernaut, Bonanza, while Paley's color boycott at CBS was still going on.
Torme was the music producer/arranger on the show, at least for the first 20-odd episodes. The show went through several producers (including Norman Jewison), format changes, and other production personnel in its short run of 26 episodes.
Assistant: Hey, Doc. Why'd you run out in the street, handcuff that guy, bring him back here and remove those pus-filled pockets from his skin?
Dermatologist: I was operating under a seize and DEcyST order.
The Velvet Fog once got so mad at me that Mel TORME a new one.
Money and MOOLA, a kealoa that I hadn't noticed until this puzzle.
TIT SEX didn't draw a teehee from @Gary J .........?
Arthritis, colitis, bursitis and now ASITIS. It might be an inflamed butt condition.
Being a pessimist by nature, I always see something that's HALFBAKED as half raw.
But I think this puzzle was well done. Thanks, Robert S. Gard.
"Stan" may have started with creepy/obsessive connotations, but now it's common slang among "the Youth": "I'm a [celebrity] stan"; "I stan [any topic, really]".
They're not calling themselves creepy, they're just self identifying as being more than a regular fan.
Thank you! LALAKER is terrible. Confidently plunged in „warrior“, since the A from ASLAN ruled out „clipper“. Took some time to correct :-(
I thought it was because that guy from Marvel Comics refused to use taxis or Lyft.
@Evgeny (7:22) I am of German descent, and I’m genuinely curious. What would be a more appropriate equivalent to the word ACH?
@Anonymous (7:39) I may be the only other person on the blog who thought of tacos when I saw IN A TUB. Takes me back to the 70s when I was a single girl, working downtown and living on the NE side. My girlfriends and i would head to The Tub every couple weeks, usually on a Thursday night before payday. Also enjoyed the informative article you posted and plan to share it on a KC Memories Facebook group.
@egs (10:06) “But I think this puzzle was well done.” Wish I’d thought of that. 😁
Logarithms...the songs that lumberjacks sing? (Old math major joke)
Kinda tough one, for a TuesPuz. I blame TIMON/STAN [woulda known TIMOR/STAR better] and CHIANG/AGGRO.
@RP: We've never walked out on many flicks, other than when streamin em on TV. I remember one time, when we did "walk over" from some weird-ass Ben Stiller flick across the way to some schlock flick playin at the same time. Didn't help much, but we stuck that one out til the lights came on.
Mostly M&A just falls asleep. Have a perfect record on that, for Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter flicks.
DRILY? Rilly? Learned somethin new, there.
staff weeject pick: TIT. Been waitin for years, for this to just once get an anatomical clue. No dice, so far.
some faves: OLIGARCH. MADMAX. SNARKED [oh, rilly? har]. KRAKEN. FJORD. Half-baked puztheme.
Thanx, Mr. Gard dude.
Masked & Anonymo4Us
**gruntz**
@whatsername. Great and apt avatar. Thanks for remembering.
Fairly typical Tuesdayish puzzle. Can’t get upset about the modest inconsistencies in the theme answers. They all worked for me.
Had something that has never happened to me before in solving. Got to 46-47-48 down and each had two letters missing at that point: KK, EE and DD. Felt like I was filling in a rebus. Too bad there was no footwear Meta around A Pair of Sneakers.
The themers were cute and they all worked well for me, save one. You see, I do not get a CONTACT HIGH (36A) from second-hand pot smoke, nor would the appropriate revealer in this puzzle be HALF BAKED. The appropriate revealer would be either IRE (20A) or AGGRO (35D) and I can offer a big choice of fill for 36A:
YOU MAKE ME SICK
THAT REALLY STINKS
I'M GONNA THROW UP
YOU NEVER HEARD OF BROWNIES?
Being outdoors in NYC has been a real nightmare since pot was legalized. And even worse -- I've also had some huge problems in my own apartment, the two separate sources of which have, I think, been cleaned up, at least for now, but you never can be sure.
Don't take my rant personally, Robert. It's a perfectly nice puzzle and you're not the one who was smoking pot either in the apartment right under me or the one right next to me. But the next time you clue secondhand pot smoke, I do hope you'll be just a little more...critical.
HAJ is not a pillar of Islam, HAJJ is.
Come on NYT, what gives.
An “amiga” is not a girlfriend, she is a girl friend. Big difference.
I feel not liking Half Baked should be a punishable offence
@Whatsername (10:33) ACH is an interjection that can mean a lot of things, depending on the context or even intonation. It is mostly used in conjunction with other words, not standalone, so it's difficult to provide one precise translation. "ach so!" can mean that one has learned a new bit of (perhaps surprising) information, as in "I see!"; "ach ja..." followed by a statement can mean that one just remembered to say it, as in "by the way..."; "ach ja..." not followed by anything can mean as much as "oh well..." - I could go on for a while. "Geez", of course, also can have a few different meanings depending on the context. However, I do not see any overlap with "ach".
Aside from there being too many J's (as in 2 too many), luckily I got them & although I agree with @DrJ 8:12 about the NYT lately, I finished this pretty quickly.
Nice puzzle, Robert & thank you.
This might be nitpicky but I'm super annoyed by "Spanish girlfriend" being AMIGA instead of NOVIA. Clue should be "Spanish girl friend" with a space. Especially if they're trying to be tricky and make you think NOVIA, because saying AMIGA=girlfriend is literally incorrect (afaik at least. Not a native speaker)
anon 3:am
W Rex. What do you hate about "in a tua'As I put it in it rhymed withRub a dub Dub i my mind and the whole thing waI kept trying to remember the ames of the chilren who became kings in Narnia. When Aslan appeared thru crosses it just seemed so wrong.
@ Rex. What do you find so terrible about "in a tub" ? Ittook me a while to think what the three could be then the whole refrain Rub a dub adub, three men in a tub came into mind. I found it delightful rather than terrible.
Did think bikini tan was a bit off inthe themes but you were way over thinking to find fault with the others
My favorite use of half-baked is from “The Graduate,” when Benjamin tells his dad he’s planning to marry Elaine. His dad says, “I don’t know, Ben, that idea sounds pretty half-baked to me.” Ben replies, “Oh, no. It’s fully-baked.”
Glad this theme made me think of that scene!
Drily is British spelling.
I remember it as "Oh, no, sir, it's completely baked."
Certainly HALF-BAKED, but nothing to really JEER at except BIKINI TAN. For my final entry, I guessed at the intersecting "G" of CHIANG and AGGRO -- neither of which I knew.
I don't drink MAI TAIs, preferring more aromatic cocktails like martinis. But when I'm at my friend's private tiki bar, I do get a CONTACT HIGH.
I don’t know if it was because of the worst NHL name (KRAKEN!) or due to LALAKER but this jingle and ad (featuring the great Phil Esposito, AKA Espo to cruciverbalists) and other Rangers for an old jeans brand came to mind.
<a href="https://youtu.be/AWih9L7ssdM?si=KPRVmKyehX5ryi3x”>Espo and co: Ooh la la, Sasson! </a>
Ooh la LA,LAKER!
Sometimes a little research pays off.
@Whatsername's 9:47 avatar baffled me completely. I went to her profile so I could view the Gary Larson cartoon enlarged, but even enlarged, all I could see was some crazed-looking and unkempt old guy surrounded by -- couldn't quite make out what, exactly -- lamenting that whatever he was working on was "half-baked."
So I Googled: "Gary Larson cartoon -- half-baked".
It appeared immediately. And the missing caption -- the caption that explains everything -- was included in this version:
The caption says: "In God's kitchen."
And now it's clear who that crazy-looking old guy is. And that what he's holding in his hand...is the earth.
Wonderful cartoon, @Whatsername!
Ooh la la - the missing link (hopefully)
Really nice touch crossing two silent (?) Js at JUNG/FJORD.
Wondered the same about "Ach"? What does it really mean: "Search me?"
The theme was fine but as Rex said there were just too many names. I tried solving down clues only, and unknown names are absolute death to that tactic. TIMON, OSRIC, and CHIANG were completely baffling. It also didn't help that I had initially had ANT MAN then finally MAD MAN for MAD MAX.
[Spelling Bee: Mon 0; no goofy words for a change!]
Somebody might have already said this but 22 across, "Spanish girlfriend", should be "novia". "Amiga" is friend.
Sometimes I don’t know if I have trouble with a puzzle because it’s bad or because I’m stupid, but I had a big problem with “Spanish girlfriend”- the word for girlfriend in Spanish is NOVIA, on a Tuesday I think that clue needs a space between girl and friend
@Evgeny: (11:23) Thank you so much for the explanation. One of my goals for retirement was to learn a new language and I think German will be my first choice.
@Nancy (12:59) I’m so sorry I led you astray! I didn’t realize the bottom had been cut off but I’ve fixed it now. Thanks for pointing that out.
Liked your story; thanks for sharing 🫠
The clue is wrong, as you say. Aggro is a noun meaning violence or aggravation; belligerent is either an adjective for a person who likes aggro or a noun for a participant in the aggro. Neither of these is a synonym for the aggro itself.
Dryly is correct. Will shortz is an idiot as usual
Anonymous 9:18 AM
AGGRO CHIANG cross
Didn’t know CHIANG
Tough cross but if you have everything else could it be anything but a G.
Natick two obscure names ( or here Brit slang) crossing at an uninferable letter as in Natick and NC Wyeth.
(FWIW aggro comes from aggravated)
Don’t think it’s a natick
But a bit much for a Tuesday I think.
StevenJay
That is how I took half baked and bikini tan.
Thought Rex would complain that much less than half was not tanned!
Current headline in the Defector (sports blog): The Kraken Need More Time in the Oven.
Southside Johnny
About Aslan
FWIW you should know that one at least for future reference.
It has been in the Times A LOT and will be again
It has very convenient letters.
I think we just had Narnia as an answer. I never read it have no interest in it but the Times has inserted both into my brain.
My understanding is that Aslan is an allegorical representation of Jesus. That’s why someone above complained Aslan shouldn't be called a hero.
But literally, Aslan is the hero of a children’s book series. Close enough for crosswords.
Anonymous 7:47 AM
I am not British but have seen AGGRO used in the context you described and as a noun. But
belligerent is close enough for crosswords. They must have dug something up to justify it.
7:48 AM Anonymous
Stan. Yes really.
Common slang these days.
Been in the puzzle quite often.
Eater of Sole
I guess you are saying a lot of people here who accepted the puzzle answer,contact high along with Rex and the editors are clueless so to speak?
Perhaps this should be a warning that language is tricky and no one can not be aware of everything.
Especially with slang, if a meaning is commonly used then it’s valid in the puzzle, however “wrong “ for you it is.
Whatsername
I also agree.
Great cartoon!
I always thought that the name of Ben & Jerry’s Half Baked referred to the average “bake” of its mix-ins: fully baked brownies and not at all baked cookie dough. Anyone else?
I'm pretty certain that the company that named an ice cream flavor "Cherry Garcia" intended "Half-Baked" as a pot reference. I'm *absolutely* certain that Ben & Jerry's has the all-around ugliest packaging of any product that's ever existed.
I thought it was that a tan is halfway to a burn
@KCull - I'm with you, that was the last square for me, had to rifle through the alphabet to get the Times' sweet, sweet finishing music (Aslan and Osric was also painful)
Please go back to Ted Chiang those stories are so good!
Good Puzzle. I just wish Mr. Martinovich could have come up with another clue for "Ron" instead of the idiot who is the current Governor of Florida
Good puzzle. But surely there are other clues for "Ron" instead of the idiot who is the Governor of Florida.
Saying Aslan is the hero is like saying the Force is the hero of Star Wars.
OFNP is at his NitPicking best today. Yeah, okay, the themers don't mesh perfectly with the revealer...but in crosswords, "close enough for government work," as they say.
Besides the Shakespeare mini-theme, there is also a personal one for me: both my name (in 36d) and my son's (66a). Can't get AGGRO at that. BTW, AGGRO may be a noun across the pond, but here it seems to be used more often as an adjective. Especially vis-a-vis POKER players.
Other mini-theme possibilities: DIRGES/DEADLY, LAVACAKE/DONUT.
ASITIS, give it a birdie.
Wordle bogey; one major mistake.
The reveal encapsulates how I feel about the gimmick: HALFBAKED. Was done in by one square at the crossing of ASLAN and OSRIC. I thought Allan was the Narnian character. Naticked. DNF.
Of course I didn't know CHIANG, but my guessing gear was in drive today.
The rest was fairly Mondayish easy for me.
Diana, LIW
BEAU BEAU
ISAW EVE's BIKINITAN,
hot AS A LAVACAKE.
SEW I CONTACT EVE AS A STAN,
A WILDIDEA, but HALFBAKED.
--- REV. ARLAN JUNG
A little more bite than most Tuesdays. Seemed like plenty of PPP. Is that still discussed?
Wordle phew. I did favor a major mistake.
The crossing of chianG and agGro is not a Natick. The only letter that makes sense is G.
Someone said nobody says LA Laker. Well, I listen to ESPN every single day, and I've heard it said a bajillion times. And I'm not exaggerating! 😀
Also, to clear up something from above. A contact high is when a person gets into a car or goes into a residence where marijuana or hashish or other such substance is being smoked, and even though they haven't had one hit, they get high from the smoke in the environment.
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