Social media influencer Addison / FRI 2-9-24 / Philippine island that's home to Iloilo / Trend for unengaged employees / Fuzzy exotic pet / Invention originally used as a yellow dye, in brief / Southern city that was once home to Black Wall Street / DC Comics weapons one of which can be seen at the Smithsonian

Friday, February 9, 2024

Constructor: Christina Iverson

Relative difficulty: Medium (my time was more Medium-Challenging, but I was ridiculously, probably anomalously slow to start) (7:45)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: QUIET QUITTING (32A: Trend for unengaged employees) —
Quiet quitting has been framed in different ways by different pundits, but it essentially boils down to doing 
only the required tasks associated with one’s job and not going “above and beyond” one’s job description. In other words, it is the middle ground between underperforming and overperforming. // Culturally, it is seen as a rejection of the hustle-culture mentality that has long been associated with career success and corporate ladder-climbing. In a functional sense, from an employee standpoint, it means not allowing more of one’s labor to be extracted by an employer than they are paying for. // However you spin it, quiet quitting seems to be a real phenomenon—and one that’s not going anywhere any time soon. In fact, according to a 2022 Gallup poll, more than half of American workers qualified as “quiet quitters.” (thestreet.com)
• • •

Lots of delightful stuff here (particularly "IS THAT A THING?" and A LOT TO UNPACK), but there's one answer that feels fatally ... off ... and it's one that held me up a ton, which of course makes me resentful. I don't think I have ever seen the word HIERARCHAL. I have seen a word that resembles it, a fairly common word. But that word has two extra letters. That word—is HIERARCHICAL:

[merriam-webster.com]

HIERARCHAL isn't even offered as a variant. Here's what happens when I google [HIERARCHAL]:


Yes, I did mean HIERARCHICAL. Thank you, search engine. I have no doubt that some dictionary somewhere has this spelling as "valid," but HIERARCHAL feels ... bad. Like, really bad. To my ears. It looks like a typo, or like someone trying to use a big word and botching it. This is a Wordlist Word par excellence. As such, could all you constructors please scrub it from your lists? It sucks. And not in the good, STRAW-like way (15D: Suck it!). 


I struggled to get any kind of foothold today. Or, rather, I got a very solid foothold pretty quickly—the whole 3x5 section in the far NW, plus EMIR, locked in quickly—but then spun my wheels. Hard. In retrospect, if I'd just put in STAR at ---R (4D: Lead), my sense of the puzzle's difficulty would likely have been Quite different. I don't blame myself for not seeing FLUTE SOLO (hard clue!) (14A: Wind up alone?), but dang I should've guessed TARANTULA from the TAR-, and would almost certainly have guessed it from TARA-. I think I would've got ALL SMILES from ALL S-, but with just ALL in place, [Beaming] just wasn't getting me there. So I had to abandon the NW, and that was awful. Couldn't get any of the short stuff I looked at. VAT? TUB? VAT? TUB? Bah! (24A: Big container). There's a reason I proceed off of crosses exclusively (if I can) and don't jump around the grid, or solve Across answers sequentially, or some of the other things I've heard of other solvers doing. I build on what I have. Diving into a section where I have nothing in place, esp. on Fridays and Saturdays, can feel horrible and hopeless. My brain went dry. I couldn't even get a mental image of PLOW pose, a pose I've been in plenty in my life (25A: Yoga pose with arms extended and legs folded over the head) (you're on your back to begin this one, which is how you got your legs "over the head," LOL). Floundering, I was. Then somehow I tried SAILS BY, which led to TINY and TITO and UFO etc. And then I was in business. But it's possible I lost a full minute+ at the beginning just blundering around. 


I'd heard of QUIET QUITTING, so that was fortunate. It's a fairly recent coinage—so recent that [define QUIET QUITTING] doesn't get you anything very concise or good in the way of definitions, and most of those are from "business" sites fretting about What's To Be Done With Workers These Days. These sites talk about workers refusing to go "the extra mile" or "above and beyond," which, honestly ... you deserve to have workers quiet-quit on you if you speak in stupid clichés like that. There are reasons I have aversion to "business" culture and language abuse is right up there (treating human beings like "costs" that need to be kept down is another). Anyway, I got the answer easily, though I think the use of "unengaged" is really ambiguous here. That word seems to have come from a Gallup poll, discussing whether workers are "engaged" at work, i.e. really into their jobs. But to "engage" someone is to "hire" them, so "unengaged employees," out of context, is hard to comprehend. "Why would there be a 'trend' for employees who aren't planning to marry!?" I can imagine someone wondering. Plus, the "trend" *is* the disengagement. QUIET QUITTING = disengaging from uncompensated parts of your job, disengaging from the "hustle culture" businesses expect but don't adequately reward. The clue makes it sound like people are QUIET QUITTING as a result of disengagement. As if people are just kinda bored with their jobs, as opposed to actively resisting a part of work culture that sucks (and not in the good, STRAW-like way).


Too many clues today were proper nounified. Three (!) different clues featured titles with missing words. MEN (5D: "___ Explain Things to Me," influential 2014 essay collection by Rebecca Solnit). PIES (39A: Stephen Sondheim's "The Worst ___ in London"). LOUIS (7D: "___ and the Good Book" (1958 jazz album)). I guess LOUIS would've been a proper noun whatever you did, but still, it was irksome to see this same clue type trotted out over and over. Trivializes (as in, turns to trivia) an answer that might otherwise have a clever, and much more generally accessible, clue. Had to wait on the second "A" in BATARANGS, and since that "A" was in the absolute non-word HIERARCHAL, I was waiting A While. Never ever heard of PANAY, so that "P" was the last letter into the grid (44D Philippine island that's home to Iloilo). Thank god for bat PUPs, though ... not sure you should really have "bat" in the clues when you've got BAT(ARANGS) in the grid. Speaking of dupes: again today the puzzle decided to do the stupid duplicate clue thing (with the last two Downs: [Place for a ring] => LOBE, TOE). This time, neither clue feels tortured for its answer, so no harm done. Also, I never even saw the TOE clue. The SE and SW were much easier for me than the top half of the grid.


Notes:
  • 43A: Invention originally used as a yellow dye, in brief (TNT) — first of all, no idea. Second of all, do you really need the "in brief" for TNT? Some things are known exclusively by their shortened forms, and TNT is one of them. 
  • 47A: The Traveling Wilburys or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (SUPERGROUP) — wow they went back in time for this clue. Was the term SUPERGROUP even operative back when CSNY was a thing? Would've been nice to see something more modern, like boygenius, here.
  • 14A: Wind up alone? (FLUTE SOLO) — nice. At first I was mad that the "up" seemed to have no purpose here, but then I thought "maybe that has to do with the range of the instrument," i.e. the fact that the flute plays in a higher register than other "winds" (like the clarinet). So, "up," great.
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. While I was spellchecking / grammarchecking this write-up ...



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119 comments:

Anonymous 6:17 AM  

OK good to know you’re my people. +1 for HIP before LAB.

Conrad 6:23 AM  


On the Easy side of Medium for me. OFL's rule of thumb is that when you get a long-ish 1A immediately the puzzle becomes easier, and that was the case for me. I read "Beaming", thought ALL SMILES, it fit and I was off to the races.

19A: Like @Rex, wanted HIERARCHicAL but it didn't fit. Tried HIERARCHic before HIERARCHAL
25A: gLOW before fLOW before PLOW (If it's not downward dog I don't know yoga poses)
27A: @Rex hip before LAB for the flask place
30A: nET before LET for the court ruling
47A: Wanted tOUr before ...GROUP at the end of 47A

Adam 6:32 AM  

Another HIP before LAB, and -INGS looked like it could work, but once I had SpY I knew it wasn't going to work and was pretty sure that should be -SBY. I had the same trouble in the NW. Another HIERARCHic before HIERARCHAL, which is just not a word. But it fit, so in it went. I was just as happy with Traveling Wilbur's and CSNY (Blind Faith would have been okay as well); had "boygenius" been in the grid I would have had to turn to Google--never heard of them. And yes, @Rex, they had SUPER GROUPs back then. :) A crunchy but ultimately accessible Friday.

Anonymous 6:39 AM  

Not knowing PANAY, I had LINE for track selection as in “train line.” I know id seen the word PINAY before so it seemed like it’d work. That was the only letter I was unsure about so I swapped and got the happy noise.

Wanderlust 6:39 AM  

I agree with Rex on his first two points - lots of great stuff here, and WTF with HIERARCHAL? I had HIERARCH— and almost put in ED. BATeRANGS seemed plausible and after pulling flieS BY, I wasn’t getting the verb there. Finally saw SAILS and reluctantly put in the AL. (I also got held up in the NE with —-CY and no idea what could fit for teenagers and pasta. Nice aha moment getting SAUCY.)

My other trouble spot was tURn before CURL, which led to a VEIn as a “facial concealer.” I thought, “That would have to be a pretty big vein.”

Nice clues for FLUTE SOLO and SNAKE EYES. My friends and I kept a TARANTULA in our dorm room in college. Her name was Buttercup, and she was adorable.

Kinda wish Rex would go back to not posting his solve times. 7:45 is a medium solve for this puzzle? My solve was also medium for me - almost exactly halfway between my average and my best. But mine was 17:00. Different leagues.

Anonymous 6:43 AM  

Same! (hic)

Anonymous 6:45 AM  

SUPERGROUP has been used as far back as Cream and Blind Faith, so a fee years before CSN&Y

smalltowndoc 6:52 AM  

I’ve used HIERARCHAL many times over the years and have heard it used by others. In literally 10 seconds, I found this *very legitimate* word online in the OED, Merriam-Webster, Collins, Vocabulary.com, Cambridge Dictionary and Dictionary.com. I think that’s enough evidence to confirm this is non-non-word. Which is to say, it’s a word. Get over it, Rex.

Fun_CFO 7:01 AM  

Going to pretty much agree with @Rex on this one.

First, yes some good stuff. Mainly those long downs, and the SE corner long crosses.

Second, the NE is not good. Yes, mainly due to that non-word. But also, SAILSBY, BATARANGS, TUTTI. Just a brutal corner, and looking at completed grid after, I don’t feel any differently nor find anything redeeming there, at all. I finished with the I and L OF 13d., bleh!

puzzlehoarder 7:01 AM  

A nice late week level solve. The NW was easy but I fell into a fog on the rest of the puzzle. My LOUIE/LOUIS write over really stymied that direction. HIERARCHAL sat there unsupported I could see LAYERS but couldn't get anything from it. I had to restart with VAT, VEIL and ACELA. The NE was the last to go in as BATARANG was an unknown.

My first guess on 29D was CUREDmeat. Notable only because its homophone METE showed up alongside.

QUIETQUITTING sounds an awful lot like work to me.

yd -0. QB12

Anonymous 7:07 AM  

Same. Would have been stuck for hours if I hadn’t folded and checked here.

Tom F 7:13 AM  

Hierarchal is not a word. The end.

Anonymous 7:20 AM  

Read the comments bro. HIERARCHAL is garbage.

Anonymous 7:24 AM  

Maybe it’s time to join the grown-ups and spell it correctly

Anonymous 7:27 AM  

So badly wanted bAked for 10D (Like some teenagers and pasta).

Anonymous 7:29 AM  

for FLUTESOLO, I thought that “up alone” referred to the flautist being “up alone” on stage.

Joe Dipinto 7:31 AM  

HIERARCHAL didn't bother me. It's in M-W:

hierarch
noun
1: a religious leader in a position of authority
2: a person high in a hierarchy
hierarchal
adjective

Flute solo

Anonymous 7:32 AM  

Merriam-Webster lists "hierarchal" as an adjective related to the noun "hierarch", and "hierarchical" as one related to the noun " hierarchy", which suggests that "hierarchal" means "of, relating to a religious leader in a position of authority or to a person high in a hierarchy", and "hierarchical" means "of, relating to, or arranged in a hierarchy".

SouthsideJohnny 7:42 AM  

Every now and then I actually enjoy getting bludgeoned by the wheelhouse effect. Just humbled beyond comprehension - to the point where it’s comical, and today the NE was my worthy nemesis. For starters there is BATARANGS - something I wouldn’t be able to get if you gave me a thousand or so attempts (even after looking it up, I’m not sure if it’s something real that was popularized by the comics, or something that was born in comic world and all the “real” ones are just toys. It’s also crossed by SANAA and TUTTI - so the whole NE looked like a vast wasteland - the XWorld equivalent of a fly-by picture of Pluto or something. Note: I realize that TUTTI is probably crosswordese by now, but I can never remember those musical terms.

I have a nit in that same section - I would argue that pasta should be “sauced” instead of SAUCY (unless you are eating those Spaghettios things out of a can). Definitely an acceptable answer here in CrossWorld, but really folks - the pasta should be the star of the show, so go easy with your saucier instincts.

Another nit down in the SE - how in heck is a DISCO BALL supposed to make a “spin around the dance floor” when it’s nailed to the ceiling and stationary? The fact that it might reflect light all around the room requires a little too much in the willing suspension of disbelief in getting from clue to answer on that one (at least in my opinion). Now, of course I don’t get out as much as I used to - are there really DISCO BALLS that get out there on the floor and show us their inner John Travolta circa 40 years ago ?

Nit #3 - the EAGLES were an example of a supergroup - the other two might be a bit of a stretch in that regard.

David E 7:49 AM  

I was sure RP was going to say something about the unicorn in the room: a solo female constructor, especially in combination with MEN EXPLAIN THINGS TO ME.

Anonymous 7:50 AM  

Since HIERARCHAL did not come to mind, I started going off on tangents wondering if there was a play on the word classified in the clue. Classified as in information that cannot be shared… classified as in ads? A tangent that was not pleasant or fruitful.

I also disliked the flute solo clue with the word up in the clue. Another unnecessary distraction.

Glen Laker 7:51 AM  

Question for the group: more enraged by HIERARCHAL or BATARANGS?

Phillyrad1999 7:52 AM  

One of the more enjoyable puzzles in a while. Very Friday. ALOTTOUNPACK Though. Was a little fuzzy, much like a TARANTULA getting started. Got a chuckle out of BATTARANG. Had the full Batman Costume with utility belt and a BATTARANG when I was little. I appreciate that AQUALUNG is a brand of scuba equipment but not being Munich of a diver have only ever heard it while listening to Jethro Tull. In as much as the members of CSNY all had pretty significant solo careers I guess that qualifies them as a SUPERGROUP.

Anonymous 8:00 AM  

A little surprised there was no side eye for the partial duplicates All Smiles and All at Once. Had 'laserangs' instead of 'batarangs' which together with Sanaa and hierarchal made the NE very slow to get right.

Lewis 8:02 AM  

Very, very pleasing:
• Pleasing to my Libra hankering for balance, with areas of whoosh countered by a battleground zone that easily satisfied my brain’s work ethic. In addition, there were the opposite neighbors SMILE and SOBS countered by similar neighbors HIERARCHAL and LAYERS.
• Pleasing to uncover not one, but two rare-in-crosswords five-letter semordnilaps (PEELS, STRAW).
• Pleasing to learn a phrase that perfectly captures a phenomenon that there was previously no catchy word or phrase for (QUIET QUITTING).
• Pleasing to “Hah!” when I figured [Wind up alone?] out.
• Pleasing to be marvelously misdirected by “flask”, where I inventoried all the places a liquor flask could be stowed. To be outwitted like that is a privilege worthy of a standing O.
• Pleasing to have 15 bigs (answers of eight letters or more), with practically all emitting spark, my favorites being ALL SMILES, IS THAT A THING, A LOT TO UNPACK (NYT debut answer), and the sing-song BATARANGS.

A heap of pleasure in the box today. Thank you, Christina, for making this!

Dr.A 8:10 AM  

I really enjoyed this puzzle. I’ll give @Rex that HIERARCHAL is not the spelling that I have seen either but for some reason I was able to fly right past it! Didn’t even occur to me until I read the write up. Ok, so one point off. Otherwise, everything was great.
I do NOT think Boygenius is what most people would call a supergroup. Yes they are all independent musicians and yes they are all amazing and yes Boygenius is a fantastic band but they are not all household names the way the Traveling Wilburys are. The name may not have been around when CSNY started playing together but it certainly applies now. Anyway, hard disagree on a lot of these complaints today. Yesterday, I didn’t like at all but this was a fun one.

Anonymous 8:17 AM  

This puzzle was purely unfair. Especially the NW corner...unfair.

Liveprof 8:19 AM  

Wait -- so we can't just make up words?? Hrrrrrumph.

This was a very painful puzzle for me: my beloved Uncle Morris was felled by a batarang at a very young age.

I'm not troubled by RP's impressive solving times. I'm just happy to limp my way to the finish. It's a wonderful feature of Crossworld that it welcomes folks at widely varying levels.

Thank you for that gorgeous flute solo, @Joe Dipinto.

Elision 8:32 AM  

But the clue was wrong.

Kent 8:39 AM  

Hands up for HIP. IS THAT A THING feels like an unofficial motto of RexWorld, so that was fun to see.

Bob Mills 8:51 AM  

I agree with management that HIERARCHAL isn't a word. I finally finished this monster by looking up PANAY as a Philippine island. And BATARANGS doesn't even make sense ask real things, let alone weapons at a museum.

The only word for this puzzle is UGLY.

Rich Glauber 9:00 AM  

Liked it a lot, even if it was constructed by a girl (that's a joke, people)
PEDIS before PEELS, PALAU before PANAY, PSALM before PLUGS which gave me SET before LET. Lots of little errors, which is kind of pleasing in some way, once I got to the finish line. ISTHATATHING is great! That's what the comics say to one another when they're trying to come up with new bits. Fresh puzzle, Bravo!

RooMonster 9:02 AM  

Hey All !
Offered resistance in all areas of puz, but slowly plodded through, and wound up with a complete, error free grid! Yay me!

Almost, however, didn't get error free. Had PiNAY/LiNE for a bit, but I looked at whether PiNAY or PANAY looked better, and from some dark corner of the ole brain, PANAY registered as the correct spelling. Last letter in, that A, then ... Happy Music! First pump in the air followed. My new Streak now at 6 Days!

Not too many writeovers. Like I said before, enough resistance to make it a good FriPuz, but not enough to make a visit to @Nancys wall.

ALL dupes, ALL SMILES, ALL AT ONCE, DIS COB ALL. 😁

Happy Friday.

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

creosote 9:15 AM  

Yes, the term "supergroup" was very much operative when CSNY were active, and they were often referred to as such (according to books and articles from the era -- I'm a bit to young to have been around). I think Cream may have been the first band referred to as a supergroup (i.e. composed of stars from other bands).

Uncle Verbal 9:15 AM  

I flinched on characterizing Tulsa as a southern city. I lived in Tulsa for seven years. I came to think of Tulsa as a little bit southern, a little bit midwestern, a little bit western, a little bit ... I dunno ... early-20th century urban. South and east of Tulsa is a region of Oklahoma called "Little Dixie." So, southern. Tulsa is just west of Stillwater and up the tollroad from Oklahoma City (where the wind comes whistling down the plain). So, cowboy and western (Garth Brooks and Will Rogers are Tulsa area boys). There's a big cowboy culture to Tulsa. The town and culture remind me of St. Louis and Chicago. So, to me at least, a mid-western vibe. Tulsa's great oil business wealth boom was early-century. Consequently, there's some great pre-Depression art deco architecture in the city. I'm a southerner (Arkansas native) and I don't see Tulsa as "southern."

pabloinnh 9:20 AM  

No problem with HIERARCHAL, as it filled in with crosses and I didn't really stop to think about it. More trouble with SANAA, which looks like a pure crossword invention but had to be right. Also met Ms. OLIN today and learned that Mr. Sondheim wrote a song about PIES. GALA before GALE and COIL before CURL were erasures, but otherwise no real hangups.

If you have taken Spanish I you have run into Me LLAMO and if you have taught Spanish I, as I have, you have spent a lot of time trying to get students to say "Me LLAMO, literally "I call myself" and not "Me LLAMO es", which they think means "My name is" but is so horribly wrong that after enough repetitions will cause one to reconsider their choice of career. It's a part of the job that requires mucha paciencia. Also have heard a Spanish-speaker ask "What happens?", which is a literal translation of QUE pasa, and always makes me smile.

Wanted "impossible" after reading the description of the yoga pose. Didn't fit.

I liked your Friday very much, CI. Clever, Interesting, and thanks for all the fun.

matt 9:31 AM  

The problem with HIERARCHAL lies not in it being a word, but in that it is wrongly clued.

According to Merriam Webster, hierarchal is the adjectival form of hierarch (1
: a religious leader in a position of authority 2: a person high in a hierarchy), but the clue "classified in levels" assumes that it is the adjectival form of hierarch ( of, relating to, or arranged in a hierarchy)

Anonymous 9:31 AM  

Big old DNF on the “T” Natick between Tutti and Batarangs. WTF is a batarang?!

Diane Joan 9:40 AM  

Shame on me! As a former chemist and chemistry teacher I didn’t come up with “Lab” for the flask location until I got a lifeline on the app. I guess I have football on the brain because I kept trying to find a word for lapel or inside pocket for the OTHER kind of flask!

Druid 9:41 AM  

Super Groups go back to the Sixties: Cream; Traffic; Blind Faith you get the picture.

Suzie 9:42 AM  

I got BATARANGS before I got anything else in that corner. The answer seemed obvious to me, a massive dork. HIERARCHAL is infuriating.

Anonymous 9:49 AM  

Correcto!

Polyphemus 9:50 AM  

LAB before HIP for me, but I'm in the science realm. And +1 for HIERARCHAL is so not a thing, it physically hurts to even try to pronounce it, yuck.

egsforbreakfast 9:52 AM  

At least you have to smile at HIERARCHAL crossing ISTHATATHING.

I used to stay at the clubs til dawn, dancing to the likes of Donna Summer and Gloria Gaynor. Had to quit when I developed a case of DISCOBALLS (unrelated to my respiratory condition known as AQUALUNGS or my SNAKEYES vision problem). It turned out to be untreatable. "They've CUREDPORK, why not this?" I wailed.

This was swooshing for me than it seems like it was for @Rex. I really enjoyed it. Thanks, Christina Iverson.



RooMonster 10:09 AM  

Just got to QB! Woohoo! Look at me go. Har.

Oh, and my Streak of correct puzs solved is 7, not 6, as previous reports would have you believe. 😁

RooMonster Puzzle Master For A Day Guy

Nancy 10:13 AM  

There are three things I most look for and enjoy in a puzzle. A really good trick. Humor. The ability to create curiosity in a clue.

There were several clues here that created curiosity. What invention was originally used as a yellow dye? I hadn't the foggiest idea. What a great clue for the mundane TNT.

What on earth could teenagers and pasta have in common? I had the S and later the Y and I still couldn't think of anything.

"Overwhelming and needing time for consideration" created much curiosity too. And it also had a great answer: A LOT TO UNPACK.

Also -- How inspired to find a clue, "It's a blast" that turns GALE/GALA into a kealoa. It took the lovely QUIET QUITTING to straighten me out, even though I'd never heard the term. (I suppose you can only do it when you're working from home?)

If I had a memory like everyone else, I think I'd remember that I quite like this constructor. A colorful and completely satisfying Friday.

Anonymous 10:15 AM  

saucy was the only thing that bothered me today

Anonymous 10:19 AM  

Quiet quitting is also known as "work to rule"

Iydianblues 10:24 AM  

One could argue (so why not!) that "hierarchical" and "hierarchal" are different words with different meanings. The former is indeed an organizational structure, while the latter refers to the holy hierarchs of the Eastern Orthodox Church, namely Basil the Great of Caesarea, Gregory the Theologian, and John Chrysostom. So, hierarchal refers to a property of these venerated saints. As in "please bring me my hierarchal vestments"... If such vestments had multiple layers, we would have hierarchical hierarchal vestments... Interestingly, my loyal and faithful companion ChatGPT does not know about these distinctions. Have an electron, boy...

Anonymous 10:28 AM  

Teenagers are SAUCY? I don’t get it.

burtonkd 10:30 AM  

I loved the chance to remember the BATARANG, a boomerang in the shape of a bat. Didn't get it right away, but was ALLSMILES when I saw it.

Okay, Xwords sometimes use variant spellings, no need to show the "did you mean" string from google. It is constantly asking me that when I'm typing completely legitimate words and phrases. HEIRARCHAL is in the dictionary, so it is a word. I had to wait for the end to come into view from the crosses, but hey it's Friday, time to learn something new.

I wanted some variant spelling of CHINCHILLA, but at last had to give in to the much less furry and cute TARANTULA.

Funny about employment trends. Actual quitting was supposedly all the rage during the pandemic and shortly after. I was wondering if our whole culture is independently wealthy. I guess everyone ran out of money and can now only afford to QUIETQUIT. I agree 100% with RP about the obnoxiousness of referring to humans as sunk costs, etc.

I like RPs juxtaposition of pics of the boy wonder followed by boy genius - which I would have to get from crosses.

I also agree in principle about taking regular words and making PPP clues, but these examples are wonderful. LOUIS Armstrong doing religious works, A seminal text for the mansplaining phenomenon in current culture. A totally inferable reference to Sweeney Todd.

I'm trying to imagine some scenario where early versions of TNT are used as yellow highlighters, hijinx and explosions ensue.





Nancy 10:35 AM  

I wrote in HEIRARCHICAL without a moment's hesitation and I'm damned if I know what everyone's problem was. It seemed like a perfectly good and familiar word to me.

But curious, I typed into Google just now: "Use HEIRARCHICAL in a sentence." And this is what I got:

Usage examples
From Oxford Languages
"As in any hierarchical system, each functional level builds on the one below it."
"the hierarchical bureaucracy of a local authority"


QED, yes?

Carola 10:42 AM  

What a delight! So many entries that were fun to write in....but only after having to puzzle over them for a good while (BATARANG, TARANTULA, IS THAT A THING?) - and so a great challenge-to-reward ratio. The top was tough! Yes, I was ALL SMILES when 1A when right in, but that was it for easy street. Only after ACELA and QUIET opened up the SW did things speed up. I loved the finish with DISCO BALL and SNAKE EYES. A treat through and through.

Do-overs: Gust before GALE and tun before VAT. Help from previous puzzles: SANAA. No idea: PANAY, RAE. In defense of HIERARCHAL: from the OED, "Of or belonging to a hierarch or a hierarchy."

jberg 10:49 AM  

Starting at 1-A and working through the acrosses in order, I didn't have a thing until TUTTI. If you play an instrument you see that word on scores a lot; but I guess if you don't play you'll never encounter it. Fortunately, I avoided Rabat for the capital; then TUTTI gave me STRAW, and I'm pretty sure that SANA'A is the only one starting with S.

Eventually I worked my way around to ROD, which gave me AFTER. I was really hoping that it was going to be one of those archaic words, like Aglitter or something; but then I saw LLAMO and confidently wrote in ALL SMILEy. Close, anyway.

I too thought of hip, but that would have led to SAILS p_, so I didn't put it in.

@Rex, it's short for tri-nitro toluene, I think. That helped me get it, since that sounds more like an artificial dye than TNT does.

I can accept HIERARCHAL, since I never remember whether the word has an ic in it or not. But two things did bother me:

*Addison RAE, as defined. She's a singer songwriter, who broke in by performing on TikTok. I still wouldn't have know her, but at least that's a reasonable thing for one to know, unlike the names of "influencers."

*Commuting on the ACELA? I guess it's possible in a few case--Providence to Boston, New Haven or Philadelphia to New York. But not that many people do any of those, given the high fares.

@Pablo, I think the PIES song must be from Sweeney Todd, in which they feature prominently.

Thomas 10:54 AM  

In my opinion, even HIERARCHIC is better than HIERARCHAL, which I was surprised to see as a valid word. I was also surprised to find Onelook lists HIERARCHIC as only slightly more common: in 18 sources, compared to 17. (HIERARCHICAL is in 31 and is undoubtedly more common.)

EasyEd 10:54 AM  

Thought like @Rex this was tough puzzle to start. Almost gave up hope but found a start in the center and worked very very slowly outward. As usual on Fridays and Saturdays there were some clues that were frustrating, but that seems to be the game for these days. With respect to HIERARCHAL, agree with those folks who have located it as a real word and found the clue to be technically in error. Close enough to be fair game for a Friday?

Tom P 10:55 AM  

Yes, this was a great puzzle that I would have finished in less-than average time...except for that dang NE corner!

Nancy 11:09 AM  

@Wanderlust (6:39) and @Liveprof (8:19) --

Sheesh. Will you guys please stop putting yourself down? ("Different leagues," indeed, @Wanderlust!) I want you both to repeat after me: "A faster solver does not a better solver make." And now I want you to believe it. Because it's true.

Puzzle tournaments that put a premium on speed have done crossword solvers a huge disservice. Measures of speed should be saved for road races, bike races and swimming competitions. A "better" solver than you is someone who can solve more puzzles and much harder puzzles than you can. A better solver than you is someone who has no discernible weaknesses -- who is, say, unflummoxed by rappers, sitcoms, geography, foreign languages, textspeak or car makes. A better solver than you is someone who never, ever can't finish a puzzle. His time is just the icing on the cake -- and you may be someone who doesn't even like icing.

So if you solve a really, really hard puzzle without any cheating -- even if it takes you an hour or more -- then you, too, are really, really smart. Period.

jae 11:20 AM  

On the tough side for me. Bottom half slightly easier than the top except for CoiL before CURL and GALa before GALE. NE corner was the toughest…BATARANGS??? and having to make several stabs at spelling HEIRARCHAL (hi @Rex et. al.), plus SAUCY wasn’t obvious.

Did not know PANAY and RAE.

A fine Friday work out with just a soupçon whooshing in the SE, liked it.

mbr 11:20 AM  

@SouthsideJohnny: A proper DISCO BALL is not stationary. It spins on its axis, so that light reflects from the tiny mirrors as it moves. For those unfamiliar with Sweeney Todd, the story is about a barber who murders his clients, chops them up, and has the flesh baked into pies. An appetizing subject for a musical.

Masked and Anonymous 11:21 AM  

HIERARCHALlengin. Lotsa fun stuff in it, tho.

some faves: ALLSMILES. ISTHATATHING. ONTHELINE. QUIETQUITTING. ALOTTOUNPACK. FLUTESOLO clue. Sucky STRAW clue. SNOTS.
a few no-knows: RAE. TUTTI. LLAMO. PANAY. BATARANGS.

staff weeject pick: RAE. Social media gal, huh? M&A gravitates more toward yer anti-social medias, I reckon.

Thanx for the fun and feistiness, Ms. Iverson darlin. Seed entries? Please, tell m&e it weren't BATARANGS. I'd guess QUIETQUITTING.

Masked & Anonymo11Us


**gruntz**

Gary Jugert 11:27 AM  

Wait, what? A girl wrote this?! And it's good?! Miracle of miracles. Even the Gray Lady is on board with the fairer sex stepping out of the kitchen for a bit. I think this is the second or third solo female puzzle of the year ... but for skeptics, gender doesn't matter unless it's in public bathrooms or children's sports.

Engaging and pleasant ... except PIE wasn't easy as pie. The longer answers are cute as heck. Took forever, but I hung in with this one.

I'm with @Wanderlust 6:39 AM in hoping 🦖 stops posting his solve times sooner rather than later. He's probably greasing up to do a competition, but he can keep his times on a spreadsheet. Unless, like being chess club president, he's trying to be the coolest crossword dude among other crossworders. (Which he probably is.) My time was 59:29 which is 15:12 slower than usual and my 818 puzzle in a row. Nobody cares. From a high score wins perspective I'm schooling 🦖 big time. I'd suggest we balance the "oooo lookie me so fast" crowd with the "hahahaha I took way longer" crowd and @bocamp can be our club president with her downs-only Sunday solves. She's the real cool dude.

Uniclues:

1 Miss America doing her thing.
2 What happens immediately before all the spiders get FRUTTI.
3 One with bad spelling rejoicing he's on top.
4 Stack of neon signs.
5 Nickname for Lois after teaming up with a team of bad ass batarangers.
6 What happens when you open the front door to the kindergarten classroom.
7 Yep, we're having a party and we're having gay people over so it's a mandatory decoration.
8 Common phrases at the craps table.
9 Oh that naughty murdered processed carcass of death. Yum.
10 Alfred Pennyworth.
11 How a banana boat works.

1 ALL SMILES SOBS
2 TARANTULA TUTTI
3 HIERARCHICAL EMIR (~)
4 GAS ROD LAYERS (~)
5 SUPER GROUP LANE
6 SNOTS ALL AT ONCE
7 AGREE. DISCO BALL.
8 SNAKE EYES TSKS (~)
9 LURID CURED PORK
10 BATARANG'S UNCLE
11 SAILS BY PEELS

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Moths led to wardrobe malfunction. (And I want credit for finding a G-rated clue among all the non-G-rated options.) ATE-AT-BRA EXCUSE.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Victoria 11:31 AM  

Glen asked if we're more enraged by "hierarchal" or "batarangs" -- definitely the former, for me. (Also I think the Merriam Webster definition provided by someone helpful up above implies the clue was off even if one DID realize hierarchal as a real word . . .). I even tried a rebus to get "ica" into that square.

Anonymous 11:33 AM  

It didn't help that I had SLIPS BY for a while. Made NE part hard.

Other errors, eventually rectified:

OMAHA for TULSA

TURN for CURL

Anonymous 11:34 AM  

Tried Hierarchic first, then switched it to-al. Daryl Hall is probably still fuming after being mated with his now worst enemy John Oates. I guess their 401k tour is officially over. I don’t think they’ve been buds for many years but it was obviously a marriage of convenience, as well as mega bucks. They’ll just have to survive on the massive royalties and solo careers, not exactly a hard road, daddy-o.

Anonymous 11:35 AM  

Pretty smooth until NW corner. Not a Marvel fan so no idea what a BATARANG is but sounds like a Tagalog word so fitting it was in the same grid as PANAY. SANAA is just terrible crosswordese and is the reason intelligent people don't like crosswords.

Ride the Reading 11:39 AM  

Found this to be on the hard side of medium - but perhaps that's a result of doing the puzzle at 2a, just after finishing work. I remember having an error or two that took a minute to find and fix before getting the happy music, but darned if I could tell you where it was.

Looking at the puzzle now, a couple mini themes pop out - CSNY/Supergroup and "Old Man" (the latter a Neil Young song). Lena Olin and Gary Oldman - who starred in "Romeo is Bleeding."

All smiles seemed too easy, so waited to enter it until a few downs confirmed. NW fell quickly - rest of the puzzle, not so much. Hadn't heard the term "Quiet quitting" - but have sure experienced it. One of the reasons I was fried after finishing shift.

Other than Hierarchal, enjoyed it.

Anonymous 11:40 AM  

I can’t believe they didn’t cross-reference AQUALUNG and FLUTE SOLO.

D’Qwellner 11:44 AM  

I too thought HIERARCHAL was ass. But after looking it up, it actually does not mean the same thing as the more commonly seen HIERARCHICAL. As such I can wrap my brain around it and move on.

Adrienne 11:46 AM  

I somehow ended up with SKIDS BY at 13D which led me to the equally bad but also somehow better "HIERARCHED" at 19A. I was like "Ooooooooh Rex is gonna be big mad about that." I was right, just wrong about what I was right about.

Would've had HIP for the flask location for sure if I hadn't 1) been so committed to SKIDS BY and then 2) become convinced the DC weapon was going to be some kind of RINGS, and really couldn't decide why anyone would have a flask in a LIB...

That corner was a mess, is what I'm saying.

MarthaCatherine 11:47 AM  

I thought Rex would go ballistic over ALLSMILES and ALLATONCE.

That's the kind of thing that usually makes him go really crazy. That and stinkers like CROSSAT, unless one is channelling Dickens. Guess he forgot after hating on HIERARCHAL--which I agree seems like a huge misstep.

I liked SNAKE EYES and QUIET QUITTING. Interesting to learn about TNT.

Bass 12:09 PM  

I think the UP in Wind ip alone may be because you're "up" doing your solo, not a higher tone?

Upstate George 12:16 PM  

So much to like in the puzzle, and also so much to like from the commentariat. I know I'm going to forget some of the good stuff, but let me start: Nancy at 11.09, thanks for being the voice of reason as always. Nailed that nonsense about speed! And thanks to all those who pointed out that "hierarchal" is a real word referring to someone high up in a religious group, so it IS a thing (as they say), just the wrong word for this particular clue. And thanks also to all those who pointed to Cream as the first band to be dubbed a supergroup - that's my memory also. And "Bless your heart" to the poor soul who thought the Eagles were a supergroup just because he liked them, and clearly had no idea that as originally coined, a "supergroup" comprised people who had previously been members of other very successful bands, or hd had great solo careers, rather than simply a band you happened to think was "super"!

jazzmanchgo 12:24 PM  

I definitely remember bands like Blind Faith -- aggregations of "super"stars who'd made their names in other well-known bands -- being called "Supergroups" some years prior to CS&N/CSN&Y.

Ride the Reading 12:30 PM  

Anonymous @11:40:

Well spotted. Must have been a flute solo in that song in concerts. And "snot is running down his nose" ties in with 51A.

jb129 12:37 PM  

I guess I'm off to try Christina's puzzle in Easy Mode :(

Anonymous 12:39 PM  

HIERARCHAL is doubly offensive because STRATIFIED fit the clue and length

okanaganer 1:10 PM  

I do the puzzle in the evening, and when Rex waits til the morning to post, by now I've forgotten what issues I ran into. So right after I finish I change certain letters to pencil (Across Lite) to remind me. Up top, the AL in HEIRARCHIC because I had HEIRARCHAL. (Seems to me it should go: heirarchy = noun. Either heirarchic or heirarchal = adjective. Heirarchical = ridiculous. But really, English you know.

Other penciled words: HIP before LAB, TUNE before LANE because tunes or songs are called tracks.

Didn't we actually invent the phrase IS THAT A THING? And @pabloinnh explains that "me LLAMO" means "I call myself"... exactly like French!

Rex I like your term "proper nounified" and it bugs me too.

[Spelling Bee: Thu currently -1; my 14 day streak is in peril. Congrats Roo! Also, TUTTI is a SB regular.]

Gary Jugert 1:22 PM  

@Nancy 11:09 AM
+1

Teedmn 1:22 PM  

The NE gave me a workout today - I wasn't going to get SANAA or TUTTI even with ON THE LINE in place. 10A, hmm, is oOhS melodramatic enough? Nah.

I tried to picture the yoga pose and what PLO_ it looked like. That W was my last entry today.

I've seen TUTTI in Spelling Bee so many times (one I often forget to put in until the last word) but didn't know what it meant. Now I know why it's a legal SB word, rather than being half of TUTTI frutti, har.

Christina Iverson, thanks for a diverting Friday puzzle.

johnk 1:27 PM  

Much the same experience as Rex, except it took me more like an hour. I finished back up in the NE, writing in the 2nd "A" of the questionable HIERARCHAL with a shrug.

burtonkd 1:43 PM  

@upstate George, the eagles were put together as a supergroup as defined. All successful solo, band or studio musicians assembled as an all star team. That was one of the main knocks on them, not originating organically.

@nancy, how did you write in HEIRARCHICAL, 12 in the space of 10?

Anonymous 1:58 PM  

I thought the Wind up clue meant that the soloist would stand while playing their solo!?

Anonymous 1:59 PM  

Thank you @egs! I needed a laugh.

Anonymous 2:38 PM  

You’ve outed yourself as someone who doesn’t go out much! All disco balls in my experience are attached to the ceiling, yes, but spin freely, giving them the spin effect that you’ve been missing out on.

Visho 3:08 PM  

Wanted "zitty." Ha!

Anoa Bob 3:26 PM  

I also balked at the answer to 19A "Classified in levels" but after reading several commenters' explanations it looks like the word HIERARCHAL is legit but just clued incorrectly. I think @Lydianblues 10:24 distilled that issue down to its essence with Gregory the Theologian wearing some hierarchical HIERARCHAL vestments. If Gregory had a son (IS THAT A THING that's allowed in the Eastern Orthodox Church?) and he wore those same vestments, would they be heirarchical hierarchical HIERARCHAL vestments? Yeah, that's A LOT TO UNPACK, no?

Hereabouts rather than saying "QUE pasa?" (33D), roughly "What's happening", they say "QUE paso?", "what happened" and I believe it should be written "¿QUÉ pasó?".

The AQUALUNG was co-invented by French naval officer Jacques-Yves Cousteau. It was the first successful self-contained underwater breathing apparatus (SCUBA) and was popularized on TV shows "The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau" (1966-1976) and "The Cousteau Odyssey" (1977-1982). Loved those shows. They inspired (!) me to get my Scuba license while in the Philippines in the 80s and do some diving there, though never in PANAY.

Alice Pollard 4:27 PM  

I remember my first job at Shop Rite at age 16. My father asked me how much I would be making and I said $3 an hour. He said do you know what that means? I said no. He said, "Well, it means EVERY hour you are there you have to do at least three dollars worth of work in order to make it worth their while to having hired you. And those that do four dollars worth or five dollars worth each hour are the ones that will get promotions and raises". I went to Shop Rite and busted my ass there.. His advice always stuck with me. I always just worked as hard as I could. Even professionally, after college, I worked hard and learned as much as I could about the industry, about what others in the company did, including my boss. I got along with people as well, which helped. I eventually became a SVP. That work ethic is just not there anymore with the younger work force. I know I sound old like a lot of Baby Boomers, but the kids out of college just expect more and do less than we did. And they are addicted to their damn phones. I never hear the term QUIETQUITTING but I certainly understand it and have witnessed it firsthand.

Anonymous 4:30 PM  

Much of this felt young and recent to me (QUIETQUITTING, ISTHATATHING, ALOTTOUNPACK), but also it called teenagers SAUCY which feels very old fashioned. Overall enjoyable although I ended up having to use the reveal grid because of the PANAY/LANE crossing (had PiNAY/LiNE, which feels very possible).

Anonymous 4:36 PM  

I had the L in place so wanted LEG for a minute.

Sam 4:51 PM  

Found this challenging for a Friday. Kept refusing to see HIERARCHAL because I was sure the word is hierarchical. When I entered HIERARCHAL followed by the A in SAILS BY and got the happy music, I found myself wondering how I had been inserting an extra syllable into hierarchical all this time. Then I read RP’s write-up, and now I feel gaslit by this puzzle!

Anonymous 4:59 PM  

The DC in the clue refers to DC comics, and Batman is a DC character, and arguably his most famous weapon is the Batarang. So it’s saying in a DC comics universe museum, a weapon you’d find there would be Batarangs.

Anonymous 5:05 PM  

I found it, too, but it means “of or relating to a hierarch,” which does not match the clue.

Anonymous 5:09 PM  

saucy = sassy, impertinent, flippant

Anonymous 5:13 PM  

I wasn’t crazy about SNOTS for “conceited sorts.” i grew up hearing/using snot as a word equivalent to brat.

Anonymous 5:16 PM  

Ha! Yes, a missed opportunity there. Jethro Tull!

A 5:24 PM  

Thought I’d drop a LINE of appreciation for a very good puzzle and excellent commentary. Saw Ms. Iverson’s name and thought I’d liked her work and wasn’t disappointed. Well, the second ALL made me go ‘aw,’ but then I decided to PARSE it ALLA TONCE and ALL was well.

Plopped in HIERARCHAL, did a double take and took out the -AL to wait for crosses. Thanks for the thorough (and amusing) explanation, @lydianblues!

@Joe D, nice FLUTE SOLO. My flute-playing colleagues make point of how much air is wasted in their tone production. Maybe an AQUALUNG would help? (Hi, Anon 11:40)

@Nancy 11:09, Amen and thank you for that!

Anonymous 5:39 PM  

Alice - great story. Baby boomer here and I commiserate with you. The term is new to me too, but not the sentiment.

dgd 6:18 PM  

Anonymous reply 10:19 AM
Quiet quitting and work to rule.
I have heard work to rule only as a tactic by (usually public) employees who aren’t allowed to strike. Over time many old rules stay on the books and are normally ignored. Work to rule leads the employees to follow every single word on record and causes chaos. Almost as effective as a strike.
Perhaps the meaning has gone beyond the union context?

Anonymous 6:36 PM  

Fun_CFO
Agree that batarang was annoying. I do the puzzle on paper and when I had the crosses wasn’t sure I was correct so spent several minutes checking every cross to be sure. Hate that.
However
Found it odd sails by bothered you. It is an an idiom of very long standing still in use. Perhaps it is a generational thing? Not common among younger people?
Really, nothing wrong with that expression. It actually fits the clue really well.
Tutti is a wheelhouse issue. Easy for people who know music notation and/or some Italian. (It simply means all).

Anonymous 6:48 PM  

Anonymous 7:50 Am
Up in the clue wind up alone was an attempt to be witty. So it was not unnecessary to the constructor. If you annoy your partner, you may wind up alone.
That also makes the clue harder, more appropriate for a Friday Solo flute alone on stage is a thing.
Wind alone is not a phrase and looks weird.
Matter of taste in clues.

Anonymous 6:53 PM  

Apparently hierarchal may be misclued, so I think it is worse (apparently it means relating to a hierarch NOT hierarchy!).
I got all the crosses of batarang. I don’t think it’s a natick but close.

Anonymous 7:04 PM  

Anonymous 10:28 AM
Saucy can mean something similar to sassy.

smalltowndoc 7:07 PM  

Vocabulary.com: hierarchal: adjective; classified according to various criteria into successive levels or layers.

Collins.com: hierarchal: of a hierarch or hierarchy: "You have to create boundaries in the fiercely hierarchal world of rock-chickdom, or you do not survive. Times, Sunday Times (2013)"

WordNet (Princeton U.): hierarchal - classified according to various criteria into successive levels or layers; Synonyms: hierarchic; hierarchical.

OED: hierarchal: Of or belonging to a hierarch or a hierarchy. hierarchical, hierarchal, hierarchic.

Enough?

Anonymous 7:09 PM  

jberg
the PIES song does come from Sweeney Todd.

dgd 7:31 PM  

I actually like discussions about words.
Dictionaries are mostly about usage these days. I think the OED always has been.
Probably hierarchical and hierarchical started with different meanings. But they are so similar, it was inevitable that hierarchal got used for the much more common meaning. So the dictionaries reference this usage.
But many disagree and say, regardless of what people write , it still is wrong!

I don’t necessarily agree with them but it is an annoying word!

B$$ 7:50 PM  

FLUTESOLO made up for a lot of proper nouns.

Is boygenious a supergroup? I recently listened to a CD of theirs, and it was honestly pretty meh. Nice harmonies, but every song sounded alike. They're not CSN&Y, that's for sure.

Joe Dipinto 8:13 PM  
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Joe Dipinto 8:24 PM  

Hi @A, where have you been? I've missed your composer b-day salutes.

Imo, speed-solving is for tournaments only, not everyday enjoyment. Before I attended mt first ACPT in 2008, I decided to "practice" by concentrating on speed on the daily puzzle and timing myself, hopefully getting incrementally faster each day. I absolutely hated it and stopped after three days. I decided just to go as fast as I reasonably could at the tournament and let the chips fall where they may. I have *no* desire to speed-solve outside a contest setting.

ChE Dave 9:29 PM  

TNT is short for trinitrotoluene. Anybody who had the pleasure of organic chemistry knows this.

Anonymous 9:34 AM  

It’s like a Batmobile only different. Use your imagination. Or YouTube.

Anonymous 9:38 AM  

If you could fit “HEIRARCHICAL” into that answer you are a better man than me, Nancy 😊

Sian 12:53 PM  

17 minutes?! That would be amazing for me. I'm more your 3 days (2 and a half breakfast) kind of gal

kitshef 5:13 PM  

Although it took me a long time to put in anything at all, once I started rolling this turned into a real wheelhouse puzzle.

spacecraft 10:18 AM  

Once I forced myself to accept FLUTESOLO for "Wind up alone?" (???), I had the NW. So already a departure. As for HIERARCHAL, it looked OK to me, and less awkward than "hierarchical," which reminds me of "preventative medicine" (just what is it supposed to "preventate?").

Started with the TINY/TITO/OATES/UFO complex, so to PARSE 20-down with that -OU- in place was tough. It was, as they say, ALOTTOUNPACK.

Noticed: ALLSMILES/ALLATONCE...plus DISCOBALL (and Hall in the OATES clue).

Lots of zingy longballs here. I wouldn't say the solver SAILSBY this one, but for Friday it's certainly no more than medium. Birdie.

Wordle birdie.

Anonymous 11:50 AM  

A good Friday-level challenge. No junk. Well done.

Burma Shave 4:19 PM  

TINY METES SAUCY

ALLATONCE, ELLE was CURED,
and ROD was ALLSMILES in THE sack,
“ISTHATATHING THAT IS LURID?”
“LET’s say it IS ALOTTOUNPACK.”

--- GALE RAE OLIN-OATES

Anonymous 5:11 PM  

Yet another unpleasant, unclever offering from the NYT. God, the puzzle quality has nosedived in 2024.

rondo 9:20 PM  

Not top-notch but decent Friday. I do miss Steinberg, Berry, et al. but I guess NYT doesn't pay enough to get the best.
Wordle birdie.

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