Korean word for cooked rice / SUN 4-23-23 / TikTok persona typified by floppy hair and grunge clothing / W-4 collector for short / Accidental subject of certain snapshots / Portmanteau expressions popularized by Tyra Banks / Industrious animal in a classic fable

Sunday, April 23, 2023

Constructor: Katie Hale and Scott Hogan

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: "Punctuation Matters" — 3rd-person indicative verb phrases are turned into wacky phrases by imagining that the "S" at the end of the first word is actually an "apostrophe S"; so "verb" is reimagined as "noun IS," basically:

Theme answers:
  • "PLAY'S A TRICK" (25A: "Oh, now I understand the significance of the troupe's performance in 'Hamlet'!")
  • "STAND'S IN THE WAY" (32A: "I can't get past this witness box!")
  • "JERK'S AROUND" (41A: "Watch out for that bully!")
  • "FALL'S OUT OF FAVOR" (58A: "Everyone dislikes autumn now!")
  • "BAT'S FIVE HUNDRED" (76A: "Dracula has lived half a millennium!")
  • "BEAR'S IN MIND" (87A: "I'm thinking of a grizzly!")
  • "PLANT'S EVIDENCE" (98A: "Careful, the shrub may have fingerprints on it!")
  • "PUZZLE'S OVER" (110A: "I finished this crossword!")
Word of the Day: LOCS (97A: Twisted do) —
Dreadlocks, also known as locs or dreads, are rope-like strands of hair formed by matting or braiding hair. (wikipedia)
• • •

Every week I want to come bearing good news about the Sunday puzzle. I really do. I yearn for a Sunday puzzle that even modestly tips the scale in the direction of "Enjoyment." And every week, no dice. I'm like Charlie Brown and the NYTXW editor is Lucy and the puzzle is the damn football. I truly don't understand how a puzzle with a theme this thin, with wordplay this basic and weak, could sustain even a 15x15 puzzle, let alone a 21x21. Sometimes simple gimmicks yield big results; you can get big laughs from little changes. Sometimes. Sometimes. But this just isn't one of those times. Leaving aside the fact that I don't know why these answers are all clued as *spoken* phrases, or why every one of the clues is shouted! ("!") ... there's just not enough juice to squeeze in any of these "jokes." The first time you see the gimmick, you get a little "oh, I see." But unfortunately you then have to "see" that same "joke" seven more times. At best, what you get is "oh yeah, that works." Like, with "FALL'S OUT OF FAVOR"—solid verb phrase to start, and then there's the cute little apostrophic switcheroo, very natural to say, OK. But that is Peak Theme. "BAT'S FIVE HUNDRED" makes no sense. No one just calls him "BAT." Maybe (maybe???) "The Bat," but that's more Batman. I really (really) thought COUNT was going to be in that answer, somehow, but no. And "BEAR'S IN MIND." I mean, in the wackiest scenario, you cannot imagine that as an actual phrase one might say. You'd have to have some specific bear in mind, and even then there'd be a "THE" before the "BEAR" and you'd probably actually say "on my mind" or something ... you'd definitely need the "my." "FALL'S OUT OF FAVOR" is on the money. "BEAR'S IN MIND" is nonsense. "PUZZLE'S OVER" works (and I guess it's supposed to be a kind of self-referential final themer, cute). But "JERK'S AROUND" just doesn't. Which jerk? Who? What? But honestly, none of my quibbles about plausibility or grammar mean that much, because again, this concept is never gonna max out at anything more than a "yeah, I guess that works." That's it. There are other reasons the puzzle was a chore to finish, but the main one is the lifeless theme.


I honestly had *no idea* how "PLAY'S A TRICK" was even supposed to work ... until I realized "omg they're making a very specific reference to a Hamlet plot point ... are people even going to remember or even be familiar with that plot point? So weird ..." So, in case you forgot, or never knew, Hamlet stages a play (called "The Murder of Gonzago") with a plot that parallels the murder of Hamlet's father; he does this so he can watch Claudius's reaction to the play. He's hoping to see evidence of guilt. The line I remember is, "The play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king" (the "king" being, at this point, Claudius, whom Hamlet believes murdered his father). Sooooooooo the play (-within-a-play) is, in fact, A TRICK, of sorts. Deep, deep cut. Respect. Hope that clue didn't lose / confuse too many people (definitely confused me there for a bit). 


The fill is on the miserable side in this one, largely because the grid is super-choppy and mostly choked with 3-4-5-6-letter answers. Just a sea of short stuff. Hard to be interesting with so few longer (non-thematic) answers to work with. I was sour on this one right away, at the OPAHS / HRREP crossing. Hard wince. Brightly colored food fish = OPAH, not OPAHS. And HRREP is an answer only an HRREP could love. Combines the glamor of routine bureaucracy with the beauty of a bunch of letters smashed together. Woof. And while the rest of the grid isn't so terrible, neither is it very interesting, and when it tries to get interesting ... mostly it's just bad fill trying to *pass* as interesting. See AGENTK and EBOY. I kinda sorta remembered the TikTok phenomenon, but I remain never entirely sure about the "E" before BOY and as for the "K" in AGENT K, how in the hell am I supposed to remember that. Absolutely random letter from where I was standing. Thankfully JERK'S was pretty clear, because with both the "E" from E-BOY and the "K" from AGENT K as crosses, JERK'S feels very dicey and potentially disastrous. And then SMIZES is another that seems to be trying to be current (-ish), but in the plural that word somehow seems totally implausible and silly. SMIZE has been in the puzzle before ("smiling with the eyes"), but this is the first time it's appeared in the NYTXW as a plural. For a reason. Because it's bad as a plural. Some terms are bad as plurals, and this is one. The plural that really really got me today is also a debut, but it isn't actually bad. It's definitely a thing. I just couldn't make any sense of it. At all. Probably because I've never seen the term *written*, only spoken, so ... when I got LOCS (eennttiirreellyy from crosses), I assumed I had an error, first because the clue seemed to want a singular, not a plural, and second because that letter combination seemed impossible. LOCS? But I went over all four crosses, over and over, and they were unimpeachable, so I just crossed my fingers. Looked it up after I was done and ... "dreadlocks." That's it. No "K" in the abbr. spelling, it seems. I've heard the abbr. as "dreads," not "locs," but whatever, as you can see from the definition above ("Word of the Day") both "LOCS" and "dreads" are valid. My brain just glitched. Hard.


If Bert LAHR weren't old school crosswordese, I'd be real real upset about the LAHR / DAFOE crossing, because LEHR is definitely a name, as is DEFOE (I still haven't managed to keep the actor and the 18th-century novelist straight when it comes to spelling their names). But even though LAHR is a gimme for me and probably lots of solvers, that cross still doesn't feel ... great. I really like BLIND CURVE, both answer and clue (15D: Something you shouldn't pass on). GO PLACES also has good energy. Like BLIND CURVE, it's zippy, kinetic. AIR GUITAR and DARK HUMOR are also better than solid answers. I just wish there'd been more like them, more fun in the fill to make up for the tepid theme. Sorry to HATE ON yet another Sunday. Again, other days of the week manage to be good much of the time. Monday's puzzle was good. Saturday's was good. Thursday's was at least interesting, and certainly daring. I thought there were problems with the Thursday, but it was Trying. It had a boldness of vision and an ambition that I almost never see in the Sunday any more. I don't get it. The Sunday is supposed to the NYTXW's Big Day. Why does it so often feel phoned in? 

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. What is this "classic" HEN fable?? (86A: Industrious animal in a classic fable). I thought the ant was industrious and the grasshopper was lazy. What's the hen doing?? Oh, it's an "American" fable, "The Little Red Hen" ... She makes bread and then invites other animals to eat it with her and when they agree she's like "sorry, suckers, you didn't help, so you can starve, bwahhahahaha." Protestant Work Ethic at its most moralistic. "Politically themed revisions of the story include a conservative version based on a 1976 monologue from Ronald Reagan" (wikipedia). LOL, you don't say! Ugh. I thank my parents for never reading it to me. 

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100 comments:

okanaganer 1:37 AM  

Agree with Rex about the thin theme. Especially agree about the two random letters in the crosses for J[E]R[K]S AROUND, which had me frustrated. And agree the wacky BAT'S FIVE HUNDRED doesn't work. (Although Jeff Chen actually objected to the original phrase "bats five hundred" because no one has ever done it in a baseball season? I have heard this phrase many many time, not always in respect to baseball.... it means: "succeeds about half the time".)

Typeovers: wanted BLIND CORNER before BLIND CURVE; most of the letters worked even if it was the wrong length. Also my Foghorn Leghorn talked with a GROWL rather than a DRAWL... he did both! Although I think his most memorable vocal quirk was actually a stammer: "c'mon--I say--c'mon now, boy..."

[Spelling Bee: Sat 0, last word this 8er and I have no idea why it took so long to get that common word. QB streak 4 days; improving after a rough week.]

Ken Freeland 1:57 AM  

A horrid puzzle, to be sure. Naticks galore... I resolved a few of them successfully, but was tripped up on FOZZZIE where I opted for FuZZIE, and that especially diabolical CAMI/MAE/EWAN triad where I didn't even come close. I have a question: what is the function of a puzzle "editor?" Is it not to eliminate such impasses? Well, if not, it OUGHT to be!

albatross shell 2:04 AM  

I was thinking Animal Farm.

jae 2:37 AM  

Easy-medium. Mostly easy but the SW put up some resistance. LOCS was a WOE (thanks @Rex for saving me the trouble of looking it up), I debated between BFFS and BAES, the clues for ELAPSE and CSPAN were tricky, SMIZES?, it took a few nanoseconds to remember CARON...tough corner for me.

Liked it a little bit more than @Rex did.

Gary Jugert 2:38 AM  

Slog. Similar experience to 🦖 and lotsa wasted time.

Uniclues:

1 Sounds come out..
2 Sounds made by Yankees.
3 The Rex Parker blog.

1 AIR GUITAR PLAYS A TRICK
2 BATS FIVE HUNDRED DRAWL
3 PUZZLE'S OVER DARK HUMOR

Conrad 5:03 AM  


Didn't HATE ON it as much as @Rex did. PATTy LaBelle before PATTI (5D) made the first themer hard to see. stAte'S EVIDENCE before PLANT's at 98A and like OFL I got LOCS (97A) entirely from crosses.

Equally as befuddled as @Rex over BAT'S FIVE HUNDRED, because of the odd Dracula reference and that nobody in MLB has a .500 batting average. So neither the "straight" nor the "wacky" version of the answer makes much sense.

Anonymous 7:03 AM  

I loved "The Little Red Hen". And it's a cake, not bread.

Anonymous 7:25 AM  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Red_Hen

Lewis 7:32 AM  

Ah, the apostrophe, invisible star of this puzzle. I still, at times, write “it’s” when it should be “its”, and vice versa, and most of the time when it’s time to set those three letters down (like eight words ago), I have to stop for a moment and think about which way to write it. Bless my quirky brain.

I love when a theme makes me want to come up with more theme answers, and I especially love when I can’t come up with any that are better than what was in the puzzle, because I adore being in the presence of wit.

It was fun to see two AE’s in a row (row 14 to be exact, with NAES and MAE) – how often does that happen in a puzzle? I also learned “pyriform”, and love that our language is so wide as to include a word that means “pear shaped”. ABU made me think of ABU DHABI, and a lookup taught me that it means “father of gazelle”, that animal being abundant in the area.

Finally, I liked the little story skeleton of FLIRT → MEET UP → SWOON → L-WORD.

Thus, Katie and Scott, not only did you satisfy my brain’s work ethic, but you took me on some lovely side trips as well. Thank you for this!

Anonymous 7:34 AM  

No! It’s bread. She found wheat seeds and made bread.

maverick 7:42 AM  

Didn't hate the theme as much as Rex. But, dear god, this puzzle was absolute trash. 1:13:42, and that was with a lot of stop and go, it probably took me closer to 3 hours. This isn't fun anymore. Maybe I'm just not cut out for crosswords. I used to enjoy tricksy and cute cluing, but lately Sundays have felt more like Saturdays (moderation is fantastic, try it).

Nearly 400 square odysseys of just trash. Nearly every single time I got it, I was like... okay. Not once, do I think I was like... that's awesome. Might be done, thanks all for your individual insights if I'm not just being overdramatic.

Laura 7:50 AM  

Puzzle was just tough enough to give me my Sunday money's worth. The theme was all silly puns...I thought Rex might love it. Hamlet is the one play folks know, so that was fair...first one I got. Heck, they turned Hamlet into a major movie then the best show on Broadway...left the play within a play out the royal lion remakes though.

SouthsideJohnny 7:55 AM  

Hard to put a finger on this one - there wasn’t a lot that was terrible about it, but it was difficult to stay awake through nonetheless. It seemed like it didn’t bring any energy, emotion or motivation - probably because the theme entries were not worth the effort, which creates a domino effect as you have to suffer through the sleep-inducing stuff in the rest of the grid as well.

The NYT needs a breath of fresh air, someone who will do away with the perceived requirement to include stuff like EBOY and AGENTK, someone who will dial back on the foreign languages and, most importantly, insist on clues that are not obviously designed to trick and deceive, instead of clever misdirections which can be really cool when you take the bait.

Maybe Rex and Will should switch roles for a week (omg, that would be the crossword event of the century thus far, and would generate a ton of ink (not the tattoo type) for the Times and OFL).

maverick 7:58 AM  

Lol, there/their/they're is my it's. I can't tell you how many times I've wished a text was Slack so I could edit after the fact. (Or how many times I've edited on Slack.)

I'm amazing at spotting the incorrect usage. Sadly, I probably do it a majority in my own writing. 😞

andrew 8:21 AM  

Agreed with Rex on all his points. Even had a Charlie Brown reaction: Good grief!

Will sign off now. ALOHA!

Dr.A 8:33 AM  

The only thing I liked about the theme is that it made the fill go faster since I could guess the themers and some of the fill was weird. I got a little angry about diurnal phenomena being TIDES because in medicine, Diurnal means “during the day” as opposed to Nocturnal which means ‘during the night” However, upon looking it up I see it can mean also “daily”. So my anger was ill placed. But overall I think it was the cumulative result of answers that were just not great anyway.

Mr. Grumpypants 8:37 AM  

61D aptly describes today's excrement.

kitshef 8:37 AM  

Fairly hard Sunday, especially in the WNW.

Lots of duplicated clues today, which I found irritating.

I don’t get 25A … possibly because I don’t know Hamlet that well? All the others were obvious to me, and several genuinely fun. [Late addition. I see Rex has explained the Hamlet thing.]

BobL 8:42 AM  

Great puzzle! Every theme was clever. Bat five hundred used besides baseball, for instance.

Bob Mills 8:44 AM  

Why is Dracula a bat? Why is a bully a jerk? The theme's OK, but some of the fill is just terrible. SMIZES? LWORD? LOCS? FOZZIE? There was so much of this stuff that I stopped trying to solve the puzzle after getting 80% of it done.

Barbara S. 8:53 AM  

Happy 459th to Will Shakespeare.

I seem to be in a minority today, but I enjoyed this theme and had a few chuckles along the way. I think PLAY’S A TRICK is clever, strong and dead-on – a great opener. I actually LOLed at BAT’S FIVE HUNDRED. Dracula is a shape-shifter and transforms into a bat numerous times in the novel. Here are a couple:

Between me and the moonlight flitted a great bat, coming and going in great, whirling circles. Once or twice it came quite close, but was, I suppose, frightened at seeing me, and flitted away. (Mina watching Dracula’s attempts to get at Lucy, although she doesn’t realize the bat is D.)
Then I caught the patient’s eye and followed it, but could trace nothing as it looked into the moonlight sky, except a big bat, which was flapping its silent and ghostly way to the west. Bats usually wheel about, but this one seemed to go straight on, as if it knew where it was bound for or had some intention of its own. (Dr. Seward observing Renfield in the insane asylum)

JERK’S AROUND and FALL’S OUT OF FAVOR also gave me a smile. Couldn’t figure out Rex’s confusion about which JERK – the JERK is, of course, the bully in the clue. Anyway, different strokes. I was happily amused during the solve and after.

I learned something today about RAGÙ v. ragoût. I had thought that the word RAGÙ applied only to the commercial brand of tinned sauces you can buy in the grocery store, and indeed it does, except with the accent flipped from grave to acute: the commercial brand styles itself RAGÚ. RAGÙ, on the other hand, is Italian, a generic for a meaty pasta sauce with vegetables and sometimes tomatoes. Ragoût is French and refers to a meat or fish stew (perhaps with OPAHS?), a main or side dish served with rice, mashed potatoes or polenta. And speaking of rice, I had no trouble with BAP thanks to Spelling Bee’s having taught me the amazing word “bibimbap” meaning “mixed rice with meat and assorted vegetables“ in Korean. [Hmm, starting to feel peckish…]

UNICLUES:

1. Spanish aristocrat with bad manners.
2. When your buddy’s going wild miming Hendrix and you actually hear “Purple Haze.”
3. Why I’ve given up on my robot-masseur.
4. Stray thoughts of a jumpy hypochondriac with straggly hair.

1. OFT-SPAT BARON HABLA
2. AIR GUITAR PLAYS A TRICK
3. JERKS AROUND MID-USE
4. DECAFS, TCELLS, UPDOS (~)

[SB: Fri and Sat 0. @okanaganer: We had different last words on Friday – here’s mine – although before I clicked on your 5er I wondered. But, as for last words yesterday – di-di, di-di, di-di, di-di – they’re playing our spooky song.]

Blex 8:56 AM  

Appreciated the deep Hamlet cut on Shakespeare's birthday...

Kent 9:05 AM  

I guess the theme BATS FIVE HUNDRED: half landed for me, and half didn’t. FALL’S OUT OF FAVOR was the first one I got, and I liked it a bunch. STAND’S IN THE WAY, PLANT’S EVIDENCE and PUZZLE’S OVER also clicked. The others, meh.

burtonkd 9:19 AM  

@Lewis, when the clue is trendy 2000's dance, you get NAENAE even closer together.

Rex is right about wrong answers really tripping you up. Solved last night while falling asleep and put it down when iPad almost fell on my face. Picked it up this morning having to clean up a lot of wrong answer mess - with the time gap, you don't recall which ones you were guessing about and don't remember to half block them out in case they are wrong.

Medium seems about right and I give the puzzle somewhere between a MEH and a YAY.

Agree with Rex that while I've heard it used, I've never seen LOCS written out, and would have gone with a K - learned something new.

I had my head slap moment at the end. No way would I know the Korean word for rice, but when the p in BAP came into place, I remembered BIBIMBAP; now to find out what BI and BIM mean...

Anonymous 9:21 AM  

PUZZLE’SOVER hooray! And PUNCTUATION MATTERS inconsistent. 😠😜😠

BlueStater 9:22 AM  

OFL is right, as usual. The Sunday rot continues (along with the general rot).

Anonymous 9:24 AM  

This is the first time in forever that I've just given up on a Sunday puzzle. Went nowhere.

Anonymous 9:29 AM  

Agree with Rex and most commentators that this was a weak theme and a less-than-enjoyable puzzle. I wanted to comment to say that "locs" is a great and fresh update to the word list. In response to a long history of discrimination against Black people's natural hair styles, many are dropping the pejorative "dread" of dreadlocks and using locs instead. Happy to see this NYTXW debut!

https://www.vogue.com/article/locs-history-hair-discrimination

Anonymous 9:42 AM  

Fozzie Locs resides in Natick.

Anonymous 9:50 AM  

This was like the Melba Toast of theme puzzles. I derived no enjoyment out of solving it … none of the usual aha moments. Apologies, by the way, to Melba Toast.

puzzlehoarder 9:55 AM  

Double dnf on furZIE. That makes three answers in one spot that I had no clue on. I thought I'd made through the worst of this puzzle when I changed IBN to ABU and smoked out EBOY. Then I tried to finish in that SW corner and choked.

FOZZIE is an NYTXW debut and apparently I'm one of the few people who's never heard of this muppet.

LOC has never been clued this way in all of its 50 appearances. It was always in reference to a location abbr. or the rapper Tone Loc who did not wear dreadlocks. I could see the do/ hairdo connection and hair/lock one but who the hell would spell locks as LOCS? Live and learn.

That word "expressions" in the 105A clue sealed the double dnf. FuZZIE was a big contender for 92D but gaze isn't an expression glare is.

Katie Hale and Scott Hogan my IZE do not adore you.

yd -0, td -0

RooMonster 9:58 AM  

Hey All !
For me, the theme is fine. The "added" apostrophe making the phrases into an alternate way of reading them is perfectly OK for a theme. So there! 😁 There is a meta, if you will, following the last Themer of PUZZLES OVER -- DARK HUMOR!

Toughest spot for me was the JERKS area. Just couldn't get anything in that little 3x4 area. Did have EYELEVEL, but wanted BIN for ABU, and the JERK just wasn't showing up (JERK 😁.) Was thinking looKSAROUND, kicKSAROUND.. I was pretty sure it had to be AGENTK. C'mon, Rex, he was one of the lead AGENTs in MIB! Granted, could've been AGENTanyletter, but the K was most likely.

Are GOP LACES strictly for Conservatives?
If in Hollywood, do you need an LA TENT?
Roker emulating a cow would be AL LOWS.
UIE? - TURN T

@pablo
Add another to the ROO list. My wonderful memory can't seem to recall your neices(?) name. I think I may be ahead though. 🤔😁

Speaking of bread - Fun fact of the day:
OROWEAT Brand Bread is spelled like that, without the H.

Nine F's (making up for YesterPuz!)
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 10:00 AM  

Natick’ed on the DAFOE / LAHR, couldn’t figure out where my problem was to finish the solve (thought for sure it was DEFOE and never heard of Bert)

Awful puzzle full of obscure names (never heard of an EBOY and don’t plan on adding TikTok to get up to speed). Agree, the themers were not good at all. Hopefully next Sunday….

Alice Pollard 10:19 AM  

Bert LAHR iconic, he was in the Wizard of Oz. Had JumpSAROUND instead of JERKSAROUND. Hard copy so I did not realize my error until now. Had Buck OwEns before ONEIL. EBOY??? AGENTK? Dunno.... this puzzle didnt float my boat

Stratocaster57 10:28 AM  

I remember hearing "flash dem locks, mon", as a term for pulling off your Tam to reveal your dreads that are packed underneath. But I never saw it written, and would have thought it would always be spelled with the k.

Anonymous 10:35 AM  

Was really hoping that other punctuation would be included other than the possessive apostrophe. For instance missing commas can bring a lot more joy than the uber bland apostrophe. It just wasn't fun.

Having forgotten who wrote Steppenwolf, HEKLE crossing LOCK and SMIZEL seemed reasonable. Not necessarily a Natick but not necessarily fair either.

Simonsays 10:45 AM  

Sophomoric theme, gruesome fill, excessive misdirection: Another Sunday slog!

bocamp 10:57 AM  

Thx, Katie & Scott for this TRICKy Sun. PUZ. A most clever theme! :)

Med., except for the 'twisted do'.

I think I've got the rest of the PUZ right, but can't for the life of me make sense of 'twisted do'.

If 'do' refers to a hair 'style' (which I had btw before FAVOR), then LOCK might make sense, except that would mess up HESSE. Also I don't know the name of the Muppet bear, other than to intuit either FUZZIE, or FOZZIE. Assuming I have SNIFTER, STERILIZED, TCELL & HESSE correct, then I'm left with either LOCS or LUCS for the 'do'.

I suppose 'twisted do' could involve a cryptic meaning, e.g., if HESSE was HERSE, and the bear was FUZZIE, then I'd have LUCR, which could be anagrammed to CURL, as in a 'twisted do'. I don't think this works, tho, as it would take more than one CURL to make up a hair'do'.

So, what other ways can 'twisted' & 'do' be thot of; or, have I got one of the other surrounding words wrong? I guess I'll invoke the 'incubator effect' on this one, and revisit it from time to time today, hopefully gaining some insight or inspiration. 🤞

Nevertheless, a most enjoyable adventure! … to be cont'd. :)
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On to Jim Horne's acrostic at xwordinfo.com 🤞
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@Son Volt: got Stella's Stumper in 2:40. What a battle! SW was the toughest. :)
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

East Coaster 11:00 AM  

Best line of the day so far is the apology to Melba Toast for the libelous comparison to this week’s Sunday Turkey.

Teedmn 11:17 AM  

Good gravy, that was hard!! I didn't help myself in the least with 11D's OH wow, or mistaking the 8A rank as a military mAjOr. Or leaving in maSs at 37A for most of the solve because 29D worked as Tame or Tamp. Then there was the blind spot I had for 41D, thinking flavor rather than color. But the most unhelpful was not analyzing what was going on with the themers until the very end. Verbs changing into nouns with 'S after finally gave me the PLAY'S A TRICK, an aha for me and the clue speaker :-).

The title had me thinking there'd be more punctuation involved than just an added apostrophe, not that I'm complaining. I liked the puzzle.

I wanted 15D to involve a generational family CURsE but it wasn't to be.

Thanks, Katie and Scott!

Nancy 11:23 AM  

I always know when I'm thoroughly entertained by a puzzle when I don't want any interruptions. That doesn't happen nearly as often in a long Sunday grid, but it happened today. I was completely caught up in the amusing theme -- and the surrounding fill provided just the right amount of resistance: not too much and not too little.

But the title is off. PUNCTUATION doesn't MATTER at all here. In fact there simply isn't any punctuation involved -- either in the original meaning of the phrase or the new punny meaning clued in the puzzle. It's not how you punctuate the phrase; it's how you say it, sort of. And therefore, my suggestion for a better title would be:

WHAT ARE WE STRESSING ABOUT?

My problems -- a DNF, actually -- came in the LOCS (whazzat?)/SMIZES (whazzat?)/FOZZIE (who dat?) section. At that moment I felt I was inhabiting a somewhat different planet from the constructors. But my solving experience was enough fun that I forgive the puzzle that most peculiar combo of answers -- and anyway I don't have a streak to protect. All told, this was a very good Sunday.

Anonymous 11:25 AM  

It was okay. But okay does’t mow the lawn. The SNYXW should be a delight to solve. This one was fun in SPOTs but the theme was uneven and there was a bit too much junk fill.

Nancy 11:32 AM  

Oops! The apostrophe!!!!!! As Gilda Radner used to say: "Never mind!"

Carola 11:36 AM  

I'm with @Barbara S on BAT'S FIVE HUNDRED - that one was a real surprise and made me laugh. I could imagine a Transylvanian headline writer not having space for "Count Dracula Celebrates Milestone Birthday." Anyway, I thought it was inspired. Second place: a theatergoer whispering a spoiler to their seatmate: "PLAY'S A TRICK." But FALL'S OUT OF FAVOR is good, too.

Trouble spots: First, the cross of JERK with JADE (I wanted a flavor), EBOY (a total unknown), and AGENT ???; second, the cross of FOZZIE x SMIZES (no idea about either); fortunately, I did know LOCS (encountered in a novel).

egsforbreakfast 11:40 AM  

(Answers below)
He can work out whenever he wants!
I like everything about this portrait except the placement of the lips!
Sorry, but the only potable liquid here is that sugary kids stuff on the table!
I know that pun I wrote is somewhere nearby!
He can whistle in a way that evokes coins jingling!

I liked this just fine, in fact quite a bit. But then, I liked the 2003 book “Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation” which is a humorous 150 page take on an expanded set of these types of things. Thanks, Katie Hale and Scott Hogan







Exercises his right
Mouths off
Drinks the Kool Aid
Jokes around
Changes his tune

Joaquin 12:08 PM  

@Nancy (11:32) - You mean the 'sky comma'?

Anonymous 12:11 PM  

I went to high school with him and used to call him The Fozz.

Mike E 12:12 PM  

I'm mostly with Rex on this one. Especially disappointed that the theme was strictly held captive by an apostrophe and no other punctuation marks came into play. Had no idea what LOCS was but it since it fit with the downs I just shrugged it off. But like LOCS, some of the other fill seemed to call out for some sort of adjustment instead of reaching deep into the "what could this be clued as?" bottomless pit. Overall, more of a slog than a pleasure cruise.

Nancy 12:16 PM  

@SouthsideJohnny (7:55) -- We both tend to hate the same kind of pop culture-y, textspeak-y, and generally "in your face" youth-y fill that has crept into much too high a proportion of NYT puzzles of late. I, too, despised EBOY and AGENT K -- among many other answers.

But unlike you, I don't see Will Shortz as being the main person to blame. In fact I see him as perhaps the last bastion of puzzle sanity -- the guy with his finger in the dike, only the hole keeps getting larger and larger and harder to dam up. Why do I feel that way? I have a collection of Shortz's NYT puzzle anthologies from St. Martin's Press (I know the publisher) going back many decades. And the puzzles were NEVER like that. Only in recent years as a new generation -- brought up entirely on screens and social media and "influencers" who are barely out of diapers -- has this sort of perfectly dreadful fill edged its way into the NYTXW.

As you may know, a whole new group of NYT puzzle execs were brought into the Times in the last year or so with, I imagine, the mission of keeping the puzzle "relevant" for a new generation. How much sway they now have over WS (who works entirely from home, btw) I don't know -- but I doubt it would be none at all. I suspect there's pressure -- subtle or otherwise.

We'll only know, of course, if and when WS leaves. Personally, I'd expect things to get worse, not better.





Joseph Michael 12:17 PM  

Eboy’s email: “Hrrep turnt Smize’s fozzie locs.”

Puzzle’s over.

Oh, yay.

Anonymous 12:20 PM  

REINKS? Re-eally? HRREP?

Paul F 12:36 PM  

Haha, I'm cracking up at that almost unrecognizable retelling of the Red Hen. I agree, if that were the fable, it would suck. Luckily, it is not.

SouthsideJohnny 12:44 PM  

@Nancy 12:16 - interesting take on the situation, thanks for sharing. If that is in fact the case, it seems unfair to WS to give him the job of editor and then cut him off at the knees. It also seems like this “push to appeal to a younger audience” is going to end up getting a lot of people disappointed in the NYT and not really pleasing anyone.

I’ll also add that for me at least, the “voice”, attitude, and overall tone of puzzles in other publications (the WaPo is one I try to do daily at least) is different than with the Times. The NYT is much more “in your face” with the arcane trivia, the words in languages you’ve never even heard of, et c. Whatever it has become, or desires to become - it is currently a long, long way from being the gold standard upon which others are measured.

Anonymous 12:56 PM  

I had more laughs over my mistakes. I wanted to just finish it already soooo 42D ELON 15D BLINDCURSE. Now I can start my day…..

Anonymous 1:09 PM  

“Will, are you OK? Did the bad people make you put EBOY in the grid? Blink twice for ‘yes’”

It’s at least a little strange to disparage an entire generation for being “brought up entirely on screens” when you practically live here, in this comments section, which is also “on screen,” whining about it.

Pat 1:10 PM  

Amen, Mr. Grumpy pants!

Ken Freeland 1:15 PM  

👍👍

SharonAK 1:28 PM  

Rex does a Twisted take on The Little Red Hen. The other animals keep refusing to do any of the work of producing the wheat and baking the bread so everyone I know was cheering for her when at the end she didn't let them eat it
Actually it's a good story for learning vocabulary with its repeated "who will.."; "Not I, said"; "Then I will...".
The verbal fun always made a bigger impact than the moral which is the east way to give a moral lesson, I would think.
///and wit's with the trade against Agent K? It's Ok to expect me to know every rock band for decades and random ball players and characters from the Simpsons (which I did try watching once, Gag)But I shouldn't remember Agent K?

OH yeah, the puzzle itself. Quite liked figuring out the themers. Agree some worked better than others, but all were OK. Had major trouble with a ot of the fill.

pabloinnh 1:32 PM  

Bad case pf cruciverbus interruptus this AM as I was nearly done but had to rush off to choir which was in a different even farther away place this AM.

Up to then I was making steady progress but somehow never noticed the apostrophe angle, which didn't seem to matter as all the themers made a certain kind of sense anyway. So finished up in a hurry and thought it was an OK Sunday but not especially memorable. I think LOCS was the only real WTF, so I learned something there.

@Roo-You're thinking of my granddaughter Emma, and I'm sure you're way ahead. ROO seems to be a very handy filler. Now PABLO, on the other hand...

Did my Sunday duty and can now move on to other things. Entirely serviceable, KH and SH. Kinda Hoped for some Sunday Huzzahs but didn't find many. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.









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Anonymous 1:47 PM  

Finished with an alphabet run at S_IZES x _UNI. SMIZES was mystifying - good thing I had FOZZIE somewhere in my brain. Also a good thing that I know what a SNIFTER is - otherwise I might've thought SLIFTER looked fine because CAROL is definitely a name. Lots of Natick potential today.

Anonymous 2:11 PM  

@Anon 1:09
AMEN! Ain't ya glad she knows everything about everything?

Anonymous 2:13 PM  

Some truly awful Natick-fill today. Imparseable!

AmyVT 2:14 PM  

Rex, I’ve always had the Dafoe/ Defoe confusion, too , but today I hit on a mnemonic device: Dafoe (A = American); Defoe (E= English). Thrilling, I know.

mathgent 2:32 PM  

@Nancy (12:16). We're saving a nice piece of cake for you over here.

bocamp 2:50 PM  

Ok, 'incubation mode' didn't reveal any flashy inspiration re: 'twisted do', so I 'twisted' my Rubik's Cube a few times, looked over the puz again to see if anything else needed to be tweaked or 'twisted', worked on the acrostic for a while to see if there might be any 'twisted' insight there, and finally followed my instinct/intuition (which more or less had been my inclination all along) to go with the 'O' over the 'u' in LOCS. Got the happy music, but felt I wasn't full value for the win.

My thinking for the 'O' over the 'u' was: I know FuZZy WuZZy was a bear, but didn't think Sesame Street would copy that, and FOZZIE is kinda cute, so there's that. Then LOCS still isn't too far off from LOCkS, so there was that, also.

Never clicked on dreadLOCkS, so that made sense when I looked it up after my lucky stab. Happy to have learned at least one thing today. :)
___
Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Camilita 2:57 PM  

@maverick 7:42 the same with Mr. I'm at it about 50 minutes now and not even half done. It just feels like a tedious slog. I used to only do the Sundays. Now that is the only day of the week where I allow cheating for myself. Or just give up and autofill it in. When did it happen that my favorite day of the week I now hate? I'm only at this 3 years and back when I started I didn't understand the appeal of a themeless puzzle. Now I love the Friday and Saturday puzzles! I felt so great yesterday getting that sucker done and the music playing. Granted it took me an hour and 15 minutes but it was an enjoyable brain workout for that hour plus.
This is just a slog so I'm cheating now reading Rex.
I'm so over Sundays. I knew Rex was going to hate this!

bocamp 3:37 PM  

@AmyVT (2:14 PM)

Same issue re: DAFOE / DeFOE. Perfect mnemonic; thx! :)
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Anonymous 3:45 PM  

Both easy and boring. Too bad. The Hamlet clue was a gimme, though. Probably the only one that got a chuckle. Way too many forced plurals in the fill. Probably would have been less of a letdown if the themers were clued directly, or even as (?)s. The speaking clues + exclamations teed up way more excitement than the answers ultimately delivered.

Masked and Anonymous 4:23 PM  

Interestin theme find, even tho not exactly earth-shakin, I'd grant.

Hey -- At least the 41-Across themer didn't decide to go for:
{Good news … the bully went on vacation, today!"} = JERKSOFF.

Seemed like a slightly tougher than average SunPuz solvequest, at our house. Crossin no-knows at SMIZES/FOZZIE muzzled our PUZZLESOVER shout, for many nanoseconds. Ditto, for that there BAP/BARON/ALOHA/OHYAY/NAS area. Ditto on EBOY/ABU. At least I quickly guessed AGENTK correctly.

Also, many tricksnotreat clues lurkin throughout. {March on, so to speak} crossin {Where to see party people out on the floor?} and {Where artwork is often hung} comes to mind.

staff weeject pick: BAP. Always fun to be asked for a Korean word, right before bein asked for a Polynesian one and a Spanish one. M&A only knows German and pidgin Russian. And some English stuff.

faves included: AIRGUITAR. DARKHUMOR. EYELEVEL. SNIFTER. LWORD.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Hale darlin & Mr. Hogan dude. Its been apostrolyptical. And kinda fun.

Masked & Anonymo11Us


**gruntz**

Unknown 4:37 PM  

Also naticked by locs and fozzie.

Fuzzie wuzzie was a bear
Fuzzie wuzzie had no hair
Fuzzie wuzzie wasn't fuzzy, was he?

Gildencranz 4:57 PM  

The “play’s a trick” gag reminds me of an extraordinary production of Hamlet at the Wisdom Bridge Theater in Chicago years ago (30+?) directed by Robert Falls and starring Aidan Quinn. When the king’s conscience has been caught, lights bounced all over while Talking Heads’ “Burning Down the House” boomed. So thanks for the memory, which saved this puzzle from complete groan-worthiness.

Canon Chasuble 5:21 PM  



There are times when I am just baffled by the disparaging and discouraging comments by fellow-solvers who are striving for perfection in an imperfect world. The endless carping and sniping are just depressing for me to read -- and yet I still do.
I think there is a great misunderstanding of the reality of "de gustibus, etc." that should all give us some slack. Waking up this particularly briliantly sunny Sunday morning, after spending Saturday watching football (or 'soccer' if you like) on a cold and blustery day filled with a combination of rain/snow/hail, and then hearing the great Baroque ensemble Solomon's Knot sing a dazzling performance of Bach's motet "Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied" has just put me in a wonderful state of mind, and even though I had some struggles with and questions about this morning's puzzle, I just cannot rise to the level of vitriol and passion that I read in many of today's comments. Perhaps it's because I found the theme clever and not thin or weak, or perhaps I was
laughing at the misdirection of the clues instead of getting angry at them. I sometimes find the Sunday Puzzle weak or not up to the levels it could reach but, my God, it's only a puzzle. It's not poverty, or violence, or political malfeasance or the plague.
It is just a puzzle. Only a puzzle. And I feel sorry for those who seem to feel it is the end-all and be-all of their existence.

CDilly52 6:09 PM  

Good thing I know Hamlet. That one was really so specific and even knowing about the “fake play,” it wasn’t as clever as some of them. But kudos to our constructors for a clever idea.

Other than the theme, I often felt so far away from the proverbial wavelength that I’d not come close to finishing. This was one of those that required my perseverance - a whole day of it!

Anonymous 6:12 PM  

Amy, it IS thrilling. This will work!! ~RP

Carolita 6:24 PM  

Didn't care much for the puzzle for reasons already stated, struggled with some of the PPP.

I love reading everyone's comments here, except when they get snarky and nasty toward each other. Nancy, love reading your comments, so don't let these naysayers bother you. Can't we just all give peace a chance?

Anonymous 7:20 PM  

Will Shortz should be fired

dgd 7:22 PM  

Another in a long list of comments that make me feel old (Not your fault of course). Bert Lahr not that long ago made a frequent appearance in the crosswords, and long after his death. The movie Wizard of Oz was hugely famous and the actors similarly so. Apparently no more?
Lahr was a boring gimme to me.
Dafoe has showed up a lot lately so I finally remembered the spelling. We would do well to remember it!
Do others this is a Natick?

Joe Dipinto 7:26 PM  

The first production of "Hamlet" I ever saw was at Shakespeare in Central Park, in the summer of 1972. It starred Stacy Keach as Hamlet, James Earl Jones as Claudius, and Colleen Dewhurst as Gertrude. Ophelia was played by Kitty Winn, who had just come off a depressing movie with Al Pacino called "The Panic In Needle Park".

They were all terrific, but I didn't like the performance of the new-to-me actor that played Laertes. His name was Sam Waterston. (He was great in "Much Ado About Nothing", that summer's second production, however.) The actress cast as the Player Queen in the theater troupe mentioned in today's clue was quite distinctive looking: she was very short, with a severe pageboy haircut. Her name was Linda Hunt.

And I see Central Park is staging "Hamlet" again this summer. To go or not to go...

Joe Dipinto 7:53 PM  

@I found the "Hamlet" program in my stash – I saved tons of programs back then. Also in the cast, as one of the "Ladies" (non-speaking extras, I assume): Christine Baranski.

DCDeb 8:16 PM  

I thought it was crazy easy until I realized I had done Monday's puzzle by mistake.

Anonymous 9:38 PM  

As an HR professional, I did love seeing HRREP in the puzzle. (Though I didn’t get it immediately!) Otherwise, I agree with OFL, meh. Though I did appreciate that it was a challenge, but still a yielding one. Made me work but not too hard.

Georgia 9:58 PM  

HAAAAA!

Georgia 10:00 PM  

Oh, we recited that!

Anonymous 11:30 PM  

I really really really wanted to post last night at 12:01 about how shitty this puzzle was. Holy fucking hell. It was an absolute travesty and I had to hold it in for over 12 hours. Then, I forgot. Glad to read so many similar posts.

Anonymous 7:08 PM  

So cool — thanks for sharing this.

I think you should go again this summer. 🤴

ghostoflectricity 8:54 PM  

My usual Tues. completion of the Sunday puzzle. My reaction? What Rex said, with bells on (or "bell's on," I guess). This was bad. Very bad. What the hell is "LOCS" anyway? Blech.

Anonymous 3:05 PM  

I believe the dreadlocks/dreads/LOCS thing is that the "dread" aspect of the name likely comes from or denotes some colonial attitudes, thus LOCS is becoming the better name for the hairstyle.

spacecraft 12:52 PM  

I'm pretty much five by five (hundred) with OFNP on this one. Only difference is, I found it challenging, not medium. Most of the clues, theme and fill alike, seemed to be around a BLINDCURVE for me. I struggled the whole way through.

Finally found a wedge into the grid with LAHR and DAFOE, so I started there in the middle and went SW. About an hour later I had the bottom half. Last to drop was the NE when I realized that the clue for 13-across didn't mean "Speak in Spanish--" it meant [the word] "speak" in Spanish. NODUH. It was like that all along.

PUZZLE'S OVER, thank goodness! Sunday's supposed to be a day of rest. This felt like hard work--and the paycheck was pretty puny, if you ask me. Bogey.

Wordle par.

Anonymous 1:27 PM  

As soon as HRREP made an appearance, so did the crossword…into the recycling bin.

I just refuse to indulge these horrid crosswords.

Burma Shave 2:29 PM  

NO FAVOR

APRIL'S A HOT FLIRT OF A MIND
TO OFT PLAY_ATRICK ON SOME men,
AWARE that EARL SNIFTER behind,
she just JERKS him AROUND AGAIN.

--- PATTI MAE ASTOR

rondo 3:18 PM  

Mostly what OFL said. WOEful in PLACES and woeful in others. Circled: Rita ORA, Deborah KERR, Leslie CARON, Lisa LOEB. NATO in the corners.
Wordle par.

BLZBubba 4:00 PM  

BLZBubba: This one came out of the south end of a northbound dog.

Diana, LIW 8:14 PM  

Just couldn't complete part of the mid-top. Didn't really thrill me.

Diana, LIW

Monsta 9:31 PM  

Eboy????? Never in my life—I have no idea what that’s supposed to mean

Anonymous 9:02 AM  

I have a T-shirt that has a picture of a classic Grandmother with the heading "Punctuation Matters" and the caption:

Let's eat, Grandma.
Let's eat Grandma.

And Rex please BEAR IN MIND that BEARSINMIND is great answer, at least in my opinion.

Anonymous 11:42 AM  

Yeah, Osric was a deep deep cut re Hamlet. The Murder of Gonzago is a major theme from The Play of the English language and a day or two of high school English class for most of the country.

The problem was how dull the others were and the LeHR/DeFOE cross, although with AGENTx, PATTy, EWaN, MAy, &c make it seem like the subtheme was 'everyone but Isiah in one puzzle'.

Anonymous 12:15 PM  

Yes. It was absolutely a natick or worse. By local standards, my first dnf in 2+ months although I finished, had the correct names, & had the far more common spelling of both names. It was an obnoxious cross, although Shortz apparently missed it for the same reason you did.

Anonymous 12:23 PM  

Narrator: It totally was.

Anonymous 12:26 PM  

For a hobby of language enthusiasts, the major aspects of foreign languages (abu isn't arcane & if you haven't heard of Korean... eat more) and trivia ARE the gold standard. You'll notice it's the in-the-language youthspeak people are complaining about, not the NYTsy parts.

Anonymous 12:32 PM  

It would be even worse.

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