Sitcom joke involving a change in setting / FRI 4-28-23 / Sexy selfie posted on social media, in lingo / Sactown's locale / Literary stand-in for Christ / Buzzkill's response while playing Would You Rather / Gil Scott-Heron poem inspired by 1969 events / Fruit also called a wax gourd

Friday, April 28, 2023

Constructor: Malaika Handa and Erik Agard

Relative difficulty: Challenging


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: TEMA (3D: Ghanaian city that's an anagram of 27-Down (TEAM)) —
Tema is a city on the Bight of Benin and Atlantic coast of Ghana. It is located 25 kilometres (16 mi) east of the capital city; Accra, in the region of Greater Accra, and is the capital of the Tema Metropolitan District. As of 2013, Tema is the eleventh most populous settlement in Ghana, with a population of approximately 161,612 people – a marked decrease from its 2005 figure of 209,000. The Greenwich Meridian (00 Longitude) passes directly through the city. Tema is locally nicknamed the "Harbour City" because of its status as Ghana's largest seaport. It consists of 25 different communities which are numbered accordingly with each of them having easy access to the basic amenities. (wikipedia)
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I know that this won't be everyone's experience, or even a common experience, but when I (finally) got to 38A: Gil Scott-Heron poem inspired by 1969 events ("WHITEY ON THE MOON") I absolutely LIT up and maybe even cackled. Like "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," I think of "WHITEY ON THE MOON" less as a poem and more as a song, since that's the only way I've encountered it (Scott-Heron was a musician as well as a poet). I think about this poem any time there's some dumb new expensive space launch—why is anyone suffering on earth supposed to care, and what the hell good is it going to do to colonize other worlds when you can't even manage this one? Anyway, the poem is defiant and funny as hell, as is "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," and any puzzle that has me thinking about the work of Gil Scott-Heron has a huge advantage over most other puzzles. 


This is all to say that "WHITEY ON THE MOON" earned a Lot of good will from me, though honestly the grid was pretty great even before "WHITEY" showed up. I did have to wade through maybe a few more proper nouns than I would've liked, but most were ultimately familiar and all were ultimately gettable. The joy for me in this puzzle came from having the (considerable) struggle Pay Off. I completely wiped out in the NW corner to start, and then, toward the end, I was a little worried I wasn't even going to be able to force my way in from below (".... ??? ... some kind of MELON? What Kind Of Melon, Lord, Help Me!"). But then I finally broke through and I'll be damned if that corner is not perfectly lovely (TEMA notwithstanding—I should definitely know more African cities, but the *eleventh* largest Ghanaian city? LOL, I dunno, man ...). CUT-AWAY GAG, original answer, real thing, ONE-TIME USE, original answer, real thing, LIMONCELLO, delicious, real thing. I had so many initially wrong answers up there at first that solving that corner felt like clearing my way through jungle with a machete, but when I got there, I felt rewarded. My only real complaint about this one was that it felt very much like a Saturday puzzle in terms of difficulty. I haven't had a breezy Friday in ages. But I haven't had a good Friday in ages either. Until now. So I don't feel much like complaining. Funny how good puzzles will take the Mad right out of you.


The top half of this puzzle was So much harder than the bottom half for me. I have ink All Over my printed-out grid here, marking the struggle points. There's almost no ink on the bottom half, whereas the top half is practically illegible now. This will give you some idea of how it started—I had to get the hell out of the top half of the grid in order get properly started:


I mean, look at that sad, dumb NW corner. GULP, indeed! (8D: [This is looking very bad for me]). The short Downs did Nothing for me up there. I was looking for a poet named "King," not an old "King" with fiddlers three or whatever. Even after I got 1D: King of verse, I thought the answer referred to Nat King COLE, oy. I know that UNIX is an operating "system" but being largely ignorant about such systems, I always associated it with the other PC operating systems, so the "servers" part threw me. Anyway, no UNIX for me. Obviously no TEMA. RKO for AMC; UH-OH for GULP. No idea about the [Literary stand-in for Christ]—was so mad when that turned out to be stupid ASLAN. I was thinking actual literature, and I was also thinking some *common* stand-in, like a lighted candle in some religious paintings, for instance (that's a thing, right? I didn't make that up, did I?). A trope. A symbol. Not a very specific one-work-only fantasy lion. Total train wreck up there. I even had AGATES before GEODES, yeesh (10D: Glam rock pieces?). 


The NE threatened similar disaster. Had -CTIVORE and no idea what that could be (since I was thinking of the eater as human) (I know many humans do eat insects, but they don't really call themselves INSECTIVOREs, do they? I mean, "omni-" would seem to cover it, prefix-wise) (26D: One eating a lot of wings). Without the INSECT- part, getting into the NE corner was a little tough. I had GOB before NUB (44A: Lump), which made both long Downs hard to see. I'm a little annoyed by the "him" in 13D: "I think I can see a future with him"—that gender specificity had me Really looking for a corollary in the answer. Specifically, I wanted the answer to be some version of "HE'S THE ONE," but that wouldn't fit, and "HE IS THE ONE" felt too formal. As for "ANOTHER ONE!?" yeesh, no way. As clued, no hope, not without tons of crosses (12D: "Where do all of these keep coming from?!"). LAIR was hard (11A: Hollow, perhaps). SNEERS was very hard (33A: Bad mouths?). But I got there somehow. Nowhere near as much trouble down below, though as with the clue for "IT'S SERIOUS," I had pronoun issues with 29D: Select words? ("I CHOOSE YOU"). Where the hell is this "YOU" coming from? Nothing in the clue suggests "YOU" or a second party at all. I got the answer easily enough, but *some* kind of context in that clue woulda been nice. But as I said above, good stuff will take the Mad right out of you, and THIRST TRAP, hello, yes, mwah, you're perfect, don't ever change, have you met "WHITEY ON THE MOON"? I think you'd really get along, you look great together ... 


I got pummeled by geography today (three place names had me really looking for my ATLAS...). The names were occasionally tough for me as well, but only SHAY was really out of my sight line (23D: Actress Mitchell of "Pretty Little Liars"). When NADERITE was in the puzzle recently, I made Nader my Word of the Day, which meant I'd recently seen LaDuke's name (Nader/LaDuke 2000) ... but still couldn't remember the WINONA part. But no biggie—the bottom half of this puzzle zipped along the way a Friday should, a breezy counterpart to the brutal north. There's just so much ... joy in this puzzle. So much breadth, so much curiosity about the world and about language. It feels alive. Wish I'd seen it on a Saturday instead of a Friday, but I'm just grateful I got to see it at all. 

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. AGNÈS Varda! My cinematocruciverbial prayers have finally been answered. Still looking forward to seeing VARDA in the grid, eventually. And then maybe someday we can get around to OZU. He deserves it.

P.P.S. SCAR is a character in The Lion King

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138 comments:

Conrad 6:14 AM  


Too many overwrites and WOEs to list. What @Rex said about the NW held for me across the entire North. I finally got a toehold around the middle with RELIC (43A), SALT (47A) and SLIT (51A). But even then it was anything but a "Woosh!" experience.

Natasha 6:25 AM  

I got really into Gil Scott-Heron's final album after reading a New Yorker profile of him in the early 2010s, but I don't think I'd ever heard of "Whitey on the Moon." I actually had a very similar experience of joy when I realized what it was going to be. (And the contrarian in me is delighted at a lot of people whose opinions I hope to never run across losing their minds over this as the marquis answer.)

andrew 6:48 AM  

Too tough for me without multiple cheats. Though in retrospect, many good phrases. Though CUTAWAYGAG should have made a Family Guy reference).

For those who would prefer no racial slurs in their crosswords, WHITE, YON, THE MOON! also works. Though it sounds like something Stewie Griffin would say trying to sound poetic in one of FG’s many CUTAWAYGAGs.

Andy Freude 6:52 AM  

Unlike Rex, I actually started OK in the NW. WINTERMELON opened up the bottom half, which filled in fine. But I didn’t think I’d ever crack the NE, which was a toughie. The grid construction offered few opportunities to get up there. A real Saturday experience, come on a Friday.

A bit ashamed not to know the Scott-Heron song/poem. But a PPP WOE led me to SHAw crossing WHITE wON THE MOON, which looked possible and cost me a lot of time tracking down at the end.

Good, hard fun, Malaika and Erik!

jb129 7:00 AM  

Just opened my eyes.

What could be better than a Malaika/Erik collaboration unless it included Robyn W.
(I'll probably regret my words later....)

SouthsideJohnny 7:05 AM  

Any time Rex needs to hack his way through the grid with a Machete is a day that I have zero chance. Wow, INSECTIVORE, GEODES, THIRSTTRAP and APOTHEOSIS (in addition to the geography, foreign contingent and the rest of the PPP) and the grid may as well have been written in Esperanto. Tip of the hat and kudos to all who have the solving chops to finish this one unassisted. Way, way out of my league.

kitshef 7:10 AM  

Very difficult Friday (more a hard Saturday), explained when I saw the constructor names. Agard always has some long answers I've never heard of (like WHITEY ON THE MOON), and Malaika and I come from such different eras and backgrounds that there are bound to be things that are easy for one of us but not the other. The three things Rex points to as his favorites were all WoEs for me.

My difficulties today ‘felt’ more like Agard , but I’m not sure which of them might be to blame for TEMA, which feels like pure Maleska.

Sir Hillary 7:12 AM  

I hated this. Brutally hard for a Friday, and totally out of my wheelhouse. Happy for Rex that it aligned with his preferences (constructors, politics and otherwise) but it was a miserable experience for me. Guessing I will be in the minority, but that's fine.

Anonymous 7:17 AM  

I thought New York Liberty was going to be an insurance company or something.

Unknown 7:24 AM  

C.S.Lewis' 'The Chronicles of Narnia' is a classic of children's literature, and "the character Aslan is widely accepted by literary academia as being based on Jesus Christ" (Wikipedia) There are seven books in the series, it is not a one-work-only.. With respect, I don't think you should dismiss Aslan as "stupid"; to paraphrase Yeats you risk treading on a lot of children's (and ex-children's!) dreams.

bocamp 7:28 AM  

Thx, Malaika & Erik, for this mind-bending masterpiece! :)

Maybe the toughest Fri. ever!!

Oh, how I loved this early AM workout! :)

Nuff said; on with the day.
___
Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Lobster11 7:33 AM  

This played like a Saturday Stumper for me, which usually means a DNF because of a cluster**** of proper names or unknown-to-me pop culture terms. In this case I died in the middle with MANGA and the unknown-to-me poem name crossing SHAY and AGNES.

Wanderlust 7:36 AM  

Hey, Malaika! Congratulations! And well done. Very challenging for me too but lots to like. The NE was almost my Waterloo. I didn’t know the Gil-scott Heron poem, and I had WHITEY ON THE M … I ran through so many possibilities there. Move? Make? I couldn’t think what ‘69 event would inspire a poem about Whitey. Then I remembered the wonderful doc “Summer of Soul” (subtitled “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised”) and the section about a famous TV journalist interviewing concert attendees (all black, of course) about the moon landing and being shocked that they did not care. He truly thought of this as a unifying event of national pride, and the people were like, “Hey, maybe fix our problems down here first.” Anyway, that connection got me MOON and that led me to ANOTHER ONE and IT’S SERIOUS. I like that exchange in reverse: Daughter “It’s Serious.” Mother: “Another one?” And that pair’s counterpart in the SW is nice too: THIRST TRAP! I CHOOSE YOU!

I am a geography wiz, but I needed crosses to get all four place names (TEMA, MOSCOW, ESTONIA and OSLO, NORWAY). Speaking of geography, I thought the “range” was Teton, and then when I finally figured out TENOR, I put “bass” in for the other key, misthinking the “below.”

Lots of nice clues like “This old thing” for RELIC and “man known for his morals” for AESOP. Agree with Rex that it’s great to see AGNES Varda, and I am thrilled that “A Change Is Gonna Come” (“ I WAS born on a river …”) is in my head. There is a great bit in the movie “One Night in Miami” in which Malcolm X urges Sam Cooke to use his talent to write and sing songs about social justice, not just love and lust. “A Change I Gonna Come” is the amazing result.





JJK 7:37 AM  

I had very little trouble in the NW, guessing LIMONCELLO right off (and lucking out, since it was right). I also know UNIX, and other downs fell into place. The SW and NE were much harder for me, those long phrases vaguely clued. I did like a lot of them though. Not THIRSTTRAP, which I’ve never heard of. Also I find all internet sex stuff distasteful - maybe I’m a prude but there you go.

I hadn’t heard of WHITEYONTHEMOON but I was happy to learn about it.

I also want to defend ASLAN, and the Narnia books. I remember discovering The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe as a child, so magical and wonderful, a voyage into another world. Rex seems to have it in for imaginative other-world fantasies involving magic (like Harry Potter, for instance).

Robin 7:45 AM  

"why is anyone suffering on earth supposed to care".

I hate to say it Rex, but I work at a climate studies institute, and I think human life on Earth is seriously fucked because no one is serious about addressing the CO2 issue. I mean, jeebus, it's 420 ppm today. When I was in grad school in mid 1980s it was a "high" 330 ppm.

So I'm rooting for some (small number of) people to make it off this planet and maybe propagate the human race, albeit even if they are isolated in tin cans circling the other planets.

So I'm a Debbie Downer. But I am also 60 ya, and I will be dead before your grandchildren have to suck this up. I have no grandkids to worry about who might be curse my/our generation.

(Sorry. I'm not having a good a.m. Or a good month, for that matter.)

Otherwise, this puzz took way too long for me to solve. But that was just me. Some tough clueing, which wait, was this a Saturday? Loved some of the long answers (ITSSERIOUS) despite having never ever having heard of others (THIRSTTRAP?). At least WHITEYONTHEMOON I could halfway infer from the clue.

Kent 7:59 AM  

Challenging and lovely. Many temptations to Google, but only conceded with TEMA (and boy, I had to zoom in the Ghana map to find that one). Every long answer was a winner (tacking on NORWAY elevated OSLO from crosswordese to a fun test). And that gridspanner! I cackled when the name SHAY came to me and led to WHITEY.

GAC 8:11 AM  

More than CHALLENGING for me. Impossible sums it up nicely. Even after I began some discreet cheating it took me 48 minutes, as I was able to resist asking the app to fill in the grid.

Ted 8:20 AM  

Challenging for a Friday. Agree with @Rex, the upper 1/2 was rough. Finally found purchase going bottoms up.

Learned my lesson - Be careful when guessing at the long ones. I was married to 12D being MISTERRIGHT and eventually figured out ITSSERIOUS.

Thank you, Malaika and Erik for making me think, smile and delivering a fantastic Friday puzzle!

Joaquin 8:23 AM  

Okay. I did finish this puzzle (with a little help from my friends). Had I known a few more obscure facts I could have graduated this puzzle MANGA cum RHEA. Alas, it was not to be.

Wanderlust 8:23 AM  

Robin, I disagree with you about hoping that some humans escape our planet destruction to colonize another orb or to at least circle one in a metal tube. If we do destroy Earth (and I sincerely hope that we do not), the universe would be better off if we become extinct.

Laura 8:25 AM  

Before the internet this would have been a give up. But cheating on a super hard puzzle is part of the gam.

My favorite was Oslo. Knew that some Slavic capital in a xwords had to be Oslo, but it was too long. I laughed, at myself, when I got the y at the end.

Anonymous 8:32 AM  

I'm with you Sir Hillary

Bob Mills 8:35 AM  

I cheated five times and still couldn't finish it. THIRSTTRAP? CALI as a place, when Sactown means Sacramento? SHAY and AGNES were unknown to me.

WHITEYONTHEMOON was a real poem. But the clue refers to 1969 events. Was the fact that the astronauts were Caucasians a separate event from the moon landing itself? This struck me as an example of racism in reverse, a little bit like saying, "Darkie on the basketball court." A really regrettable choice of title for poetry.





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Anonymous 8:37 AM  

You know you’re becoming a true crossword nerd when you see the constructor names and break into a grin. And it didn’t disappoint - surprising no one, oh how I loved this one. 1000% my cup of tea: trivia-laden, cleverly clued, themeless, freshly filled, not centering whiteness, lots to smile at.

I’m sure some folks will gripe about all the unfamiliar PPP, but I think they were all fairly crossed. And either way, let’s just consider this a counterbalance to this week’s VERTIGO puzzle, no?

Absolutely agree with Rex re: THIRST TRAP and WHITEY ON THE MOON. I always think of that poem as in the lineage of Frederick Douglass’s “What to a Slave Is the Fourth of July?” I’m just delighted that it made it in and like @Natasha, delighted that it will make some small-minded folks grumpy.

Politically-inflected cluing aside, there were also just some excellent misdirects. I loved GEODES for “glam rock pieces?” and I felt certain that the “range just below 55 down” must refer to mountains, not vocals. Also my goodness, APOTHEOSIS?!? I’m used to having to ignore the more obscure reaches of my vocabulary for long clues, Malaika and Erik, but you two magnificent nerds (said with all the love) instead had me dusting off the storage bins of my mind. I’m obsessed.

My final cluing thought is that I wonder if the ANOTHER ONE clue had something to do with DJ Khaled originally; I’m certainly going to believe it did.

For me this puzzle was within seconds of my average Friday time - which I think is absolutely a wheelhouse thing - but it certainly *felt* hard. I absolutely adored it and I’m so happy to have what feels like a real accomplishment under my belt before heading into my day. Thanks, Malaika and Erik, what a gem!

pabloinnh 8:38 AM  

Technical DNF here, as I did not know the poem (or the song). THEMOON part was a likely guess given 1969 in the clue, but I didn't know SHAY either and went with WHITES. Nope. Oh well, since that was the only minor! very minor! goof in this beast I can live with it.

CUTAWAYGAG? THIRSTRAP? Would You Rather is a game? TEMA is a city? TEMA could have been clued as "theme, in Spanish", which I bet would have been as familiar as a city in Ghana.

Some nice moments when I saw what was going on with things like MOSCOW and COLE and ASLAN, and some help from doing Acrostics in coming up with longer answers like APOTHEOSIS and LIMOCELLO.

Bottom line is that I found this one hugely rewarding. I know you both can make easier puzzles, MH and EA I have spent Many Hours of Exceptional Amusement with both of you, and especially appreciate efforts like this one. Thanks for all the fun.

Anonymous 8:40 AM  

A very hard but excellent, more like a tough Saturday, puzzle. It took just under 30 minutes but it took about 5 to come up with anything.

puzzlehoarder 8:43 AM  

I'm completely unfamiliar with CUTAWAYGAG, THIRSTTRAP and the grid spanning title so this old WHITEY was OVERTHEMOON about how Saturday difficult this puzzle was.

The NW was the last to fall. COLE and ASLAN sat up there by themselves for a long time. When PAD finally dawned on me it gave me GULP and GEODE which were the leverage I was looking for. SRO switched to AMC and the "wrap" phrase went in first. The answer for 19A went from ELATE to ERECT and finally EXALT. Sounds like a metaphor.....ick.

M -0, T pg -1, W + Th -0

Anonymous 8:46 AM  

I had He's a keeper and then He's Mr. Right before I saw ITSSERIOUS

Suzy 8:50 AM  

Too tough for me, but who cares!? I’m all for any fair puzzle that teaches me new terms. Also liked seeing Aslan and ‘apotheosis’
in the same grid! Thank you!

Dr.A 8:53 AM  

I loved everything but the the Northeast corner. I eventually had to reveal that area and I never would have gotten most of those. I did get ALSAN so that was good, and YEE of course, but no UNIX, had SRO but figured out that had to be wrong! , just couldn’t come up with AMC. And GASP was my biggest error because the G and P looked great, (had GAG without the rest) and PAD but the in between stuff was wrong so it was messing me up. Anyway love these two constructors so I can’t complain, loved everything else but that painful area! And even that was good, just not my wheelhouse.

Dan A 8:59 AM  

Tough Grid! Incredible Friday! TGIF!! 👍👍

Kent 9:05 AM  

Forgot to mention: agree with Rex about the unnecessary gender specificity on 13D. I put in “He’s Mr. Right” with no crosses, but wasn’t sold because that phrase has more certainty than the clue. Eventually crosses led me to abandon Mr. Right, but had a hard time letting go of “he.”

Clay 9:14 AM  

Sometimes the journey is more important than the destination, and the moon shot is one of the best examples of that. Massive technological advances that were, imo, more important than being on the moon itself. And Tang! Lol.

Really challenging. But worth it in the end. Toughest puzzle I can remember for a long time.

And I am with the others on Aslan. Dropped it right in.

Liveprof 9:19 AM  

A friendly FYI for Natasha (6:25) -- Marquee is how it's spelled for the way you use it. Marquis is a nobility rank.

Anonymous 9:27 AM  

having just watched the gleaners and i, it's great to see varda on here

Anonymous 9:28 AM  

One of the best crosswords I've done in a while. So much new and fresh. Especially enjoyed the NW corner

Anonymous 9:34 AM  

Help. I am being dense. Why do scar line = roar (65A)?

RooMonster 9:34 AM  

Hey All !
Tough tough!
Resorted to cheating by Reveal Wording a bunch of Threes. The ole angst set in, and well, since doing the puz online gives you cheating options...

NE toughest area for me. NW was no picnic, either.

Never heard of THIRST TRAP. Odd name for a "sexy selfie", that. People need to stop being so fixated on putting Everything online. Jeez, give us all a break.

And what is a WINTERMELON? Are they tasty? Do you need to add SALT?

Time to CUT AWAY.

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Alice Pollard 9:39 AM  

Scar from the Lion King

Brian S 9:45 AM  

Everyone take a deep breath and say it with me (looking at you, Andrew and Bob Mills): There’s. No. Such. Thing. As. Reverse. Racism.

Martin 9:49 AM  

Love Erik’s puzzles. One issue- I live close to Sacramento, and nobody in Northern California calls our state “Cali.” I just doesn’t happen. It would be nice if constructors could get that. He might be able to clue it with a Southern CA city, but not up here.

Anonymous 9:58 AM  

Thank you! Can’t believe this crowd needs that explained to them.

egsforbreakfast 9:59 AM  

A Malaika Mfriday. Mwah! I love Eric Agard as well, but don’t have the same “that’s our ….” Kind of relationship. With Malaika, ITSSERIOUS.

I recently returned from Patagonia, where we saw RHEAs roaming the plains.

Liked that GULP crosses LIMONCELLO. We’ll be singing ANOTHERONE Bites the Dust about anyone who does that.

My solve involved some sort of diagonal symmetry, as everything below the NE to SW diagonal was solved before much of anything
above it. Really had fun with this one. Thanks, Malaika and Eric.



Bruce R 10:02 AM  

HESMRRIGHT has three letters in the right place, and those were the first crosses I was able to get. In my mind, HESMRIGHT was confirmed by the crosses. My mind was wrong.

Anonymous 10:06 AM  

Stick with it! This was my experience a couple years ago and now I’m on a 200+ puzzle solving streak.

Bob Mills 10:07 AM  

For Brian S.: OK, then. I'll say it out loud...WHITEYONTHEMOON is racist, because referring to a Caucasian as "Whitey" is the same as referring to an African-American as "Blackie."

Will Shortz should have known better than to refer to the moon landing in the plural form (1969 events), because it suggested that the skin color of the astronauts represented a separate event from the landing itself.

Weezie 10:09 AM  

Oops, this was me!

Anonymous 10:10 AM  

Rex, I CHOOSE YOU is the iconic and specific phrase when someone "selects" a Pokemon. Laughed out loud when I got it -- it's rare and wonderful when the cultural references are actually accessible to my generation!

Anonymous 10:11 AM  

@Anonymous 9:34
Scar is a character from the Lion King, and ROARs quite a few times throughout the movie.

Anonymous 10:15 AM  

Hard for a Friday? Maaaybe. But this was nowhere near Saturday territory, maybe some more crunch than your typical Friday, but definitely not as tough (at least for me) as something like Rich Norris's Friday from last month (...remember that?). The NW was by far the hardest corner, CUTAWAYGAG was on the tip of my tongue but I needed a bunch of crosses for that. Didn't help that I had weLP for GULP. Didn't know WHITEYONTHEMOON, and I also thought that COLE was Nat King Cole but with no Nat in the clue to make it Friday-level.

Still, Malaika and Erik Agard is an awesome combo. I'm surprised to see that Malaika only has two published NYT puzzles so far.

Nancy 10:20 AM  

Did I basically like it? Yes I did. It was a terrific challenge and it made me use every little gray cell in my brain...and then still have to cheat on one answer.

Did I think it was fair? Not even close.

I consider the fact that I only cheated on one answer to be a moral victory of sorts. When you cross that unknown poem title with that unknown actress, what do you expect? And while this was nowhere near my only WOE -- many too many to count -- this one cheat did make this bear of a puzzle solvable.

I had SHA? crossing WHITE?ONTHEM???. Good grief. Was that
WHITE mONTH EMAIL crossing SHAm?
WHITEs ON THE Move crossing SHAs?

I had no idea, so I typed "Scott-Heron WHITE" into Google and out came WHITEY ON THE MOON. Could have stared at that line until the cows came home and I never would have gotten it.

Many other nits. "ONTO something" is a Thing? Why not "iNTO something" which is what I had before LOL straightened me out. (Now there's a really good clue, btw.) But I hate vague green-paint-y clues like "___something" (4 letters). There's no end to the possibilities. Take something (for your cold.) Plan something (for your trip). Make something (of it; of yourself).

And finally: a sexy selfie is a THIRST TRAP??? Who knew?

Gary Jugert 10:30 AM  

Here's Malaika creating another fun one, but why so mean to us? I thought we were friends. We've hung out, nursed your hangovers, let you talk about sports, had old white men be shocked you didn't know WWII trivia.

And you drop this?

Super fun top to bottom, but I had plenty of no-knows so a regular Friday Go-ogle fiesta, but worth it.

I read the Gil Scott-Heron and learned about him and his impact on other artists. All new to me and what a delightful discovery.

APOTHEOSIS is such a gorgeous word. It would be on my favorite word list, but I don't know how to use it in a sentence.

I CHOOSE YOU and IT'S SERIOUS are delightful PuzzPairs® and hopefully a clue somebody is in love. Maybe they're in love with crickets as an INSECTIVORE.

I have a vague recollection of seeing THIRST TRAP before (maybe?), but still needed every single cross.

HEE before YEE as ye doeth. LEST NEITHER next to each other seem like good friends from the world of complicated grammar.

I read about ASLAN when I was 12, so he'll always be a lion to me. Christ, bah, buncha hoity-toity malarkey.

Too-Tuffs: TSO (how would I ever possibly know this?). ACH (are all German words in crosswords ACH, ICH and NEIN?). NBC (oh the irritation of what corporate conglomerate owns what other corporate conglomerate clues). My Estonian counting isn't up to snuff. I've never read Jane Eyre. I dunno nuthin' 'bout "torah". WINTER MELON (of all the melons in all the world...). AGNES, SHAY and WINONA (dkdc). NOH (uh, sure?).

Hmm: I think PAD is part of the paw, not the print.

Uniclues:

1 Basement dungeon in a horror film.
2 What many local governments are up to with their 10¢ taxes.
3 What happens when Malaika arrives.
4 Snockered goddess gets sassy.
5 The opposite of how stadium naming rights committees think.
6 Hateful online mockery of conjoined twins.
7 Why actors act according to them.

1 CUT AWAY GAG LAIR
2 ONTO ONE TIME USE (~)
3 LIMONCELLO LOST
4 LIT RHEA SNEERS
5 ROAR NOT FOR SALE
6 LOL "TEAM TORSO"
7 I WAS ANOTHER ONE (~)

Seth 10:36 AM  

Like Andy at 6:52 am, I had SHAw and WHITE wON THE MOON, because I'd never heard of that person or that poem.

Joe Dipinto 10:37 AM  

You can tell they knew TEMA was pushing it by the anagram bit in the clue — WS: "Hey guys, I think solvers might actually *need* an anagram for this one. Whaddaya say?"

It took 32 minutes to finish this (for once I noticed the timeclock on my solution) but it felt like longer. Fun to work through, but nothing in the fill particularly wowed me. ONE TIME USE, NOT FOR SALE, ANOTHER ONE all look kind of dull in the completed grid. THIRST TRAP already feels like a RELIC. The MOSCOW clue is expectedly childish.

Barbra, Marvin, Nancy (Sinatra), and a number of others do excellent versions of this song, but today I choose Scott Walker.

Anonymous 10:52 AM  

Ach was had me stumped and I used to be German. No way would translate as Um keinen Fall but that wouldn’t have worked. It was fun solving this puzzle.

Weezie 10:54 AM  

Bob, I don’t think we’ll change your opinion here, and maybe this is discourse you’ve already engaged with, but I wanted to respond in good faith in case you’re open to it.

For something to be racist, it needs to exist within a societal pattern of oppression, power, and control in which that systemic power is maintained (intentionally or not) by marginalizing a particular racial identity. Because we white people as a category in America have historically and still do directly and indirectly benefit from the oppression and disenfranchisement of Black people/ Indigenous people/ people of color (BIPOC), we can’t experience racism. Meanwhile, Black folks daily live in fear of police violence, are less likely to be interviewed than white folks if they have a “Black-sounding” name, are more than 2.5 times as likely to die in childbirth than white people, and are criminalized for trying to ensure that their history is taught in schools.

White people can experience *discrimination*, sure, and I’d agree that the term is *discriminatory* against white people. And, I’d say that’s fair/fine with me, given all that’s been done to BIPOC in this country by white folks - the poem/song was written in 1970, just 16 years after segregation was declared illegal, for context. And, in cases like this poem, I would argue that it’s more about someone who has experienced racism and violence so profound from white institutions and individuals that he’s leveraging the punch of that word to make a cutting point about his country’s priorities.

I hope that’s helpful to understand where a lot of us are coming from.

Larry K 10:54 AM  

@Nancy - There's a difference between "unknown" and "unknown to me". WHITEY ON THE MOON isn't "unknow", it's just unknown to you (unless you, as was I, were confused by thinking the title 'Whitey's on the moon' rather than 'Whitey on the Moon', in which case your outrage is justified). Further, the letter in question, the 'Y' is pretty inferable with knowing the poem was by Gil Scott-Heron, and you can't be unaware of Gil Scott-Heron, as an adult not in a coma, having lived through the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.

bocamp 10:57 AM  

A very worthwhile read on the subject of anti-racism: This Book Is Anti-Racist: 20 Lessons on How to Wake Up, Take Action, and Do the Work by Tiffany Jewell, Aurelia Durand (Illustrator)

Goodreads reviewer, 'The Artisan Geek' had this to say about the book:

"What an excellent read! This is targeted at children/young adults, but it definitely is for everyone. It's a great place to start your journey of being anti-racist -- it's also just a good book if you want to make sure that you have all of the basics down. Strong points here are definitely its accessibility and dare I say its aesthetic :)" (Goodreads)
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Carola 10:59 AM  

Challenging for me, too, especially the top half. I managed to work it all out, with my last square the Y in SHAY x WHITEY ON THE MOON, but I found the puzzle less appealing than many here...it .just seemed too much like a trivia fest to me. Still, it was RHEA x AGNES that provided my entry into the grid, so I guess I should be careful what I complain about.

Do-over: ErecT before EXALT. Help from previous puzzles: THIRST TRAP. No idea: TEMA, SHAY, WHITEY ON THE MOON, WINONA, CUT-AWAY GAG.

jberg 11:04 AM  

As soon as I clicked on the version Rex posted I realize that I'd heard "Whitey on the Moon" many times; but I couldn't recall it while solving, not even with everything but the Y, crossing the unknown-to-me actress. So I went with WHITEs/SHAs, then looked it up to find I was wrong. Doh!

Before there were PCs, you got a terminal connected to a mainframe, and that mainframe (i.e., server) probably ran UNIX. So if you're old enough, that was easy. As was LIMONCELLO, if you've ever had one. But the NE, man that was touch.

TEMA was entirely from crosses; but looking it up, I think it's sort of like Piraeus, as Wiki calls it the principal seaport of Ghana, so I guess it's fair. And I was proud of myself for figuring out that the country with those numbers must be albaNIA (fixed by METERS).

And we get a fun subtheme of lions. Weird that Rex doesn't think that ASLAN, featured in the work of C.S. Lewis, is not crossworthy but doesn't bat an eye at Scar, a Disney cartoon character.

I spent way too much time wanting TENOR to be a mountain range, and pondering whether there might be a Titan named "Rook." Despite its being a crossword perennial, I needed the E to see RHEA.

Despite my DNF, I really enjoyed the puzzle.

And in 1969, the fact that all the astronauts were white WAS an event. I remember decades ago seeing a Satjayit Ray film in which the protagonist, a young man, is applying for a civil service job. The examiners ask him what was the most important event of the 1960s, and he replies "the war in Vietnam." They react in mock astonishment, "Not the moon landing?" Pretty much Gil Scott-Heron's message.

Nancy 11:05 AM  

Uniclues:

1) MGM has real integrity

2) Joanne Woodward talks about her challenges in "Three Faces of Eve"

3) Old NY Giants players look SO fat in that photo

4) "Ours move in fascinating ways. CBS's just sit there."


1) ROAR NOT FOR SALE

2) ANOTHER ONE I WAS

3) LOL TEAM TORSO

4) ROTORS: NBC EYES

bocamp 11:05 AM  

Another good read is: How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi
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Nancy 11:07 AM  

I didn't know the title at all, Larry. I didn't know the author at all, Larry. Sue me.

jae 11:16 AM  

Very tough! My experience was similar to @Rex’s (e.g. bottom half easier than the top) except that I’ve never heard of the poem. Lotsa WOES and erasures...very tough. Liked it a bunch, or what @Rex said. i

Robert Nola 11:28 AM  

I haven't done this poorly on a Friday in a long time. Got only halfway before my self imposed time limit (I will not specify) but it was a long time. I did learn a thing or two, which is always good.

Paul 11:32 AM  

Loved this. It was super challenging at times, but in a way I really love- like the feeling of a great mountain top vista after a challenging climb. ‘Whitey on the Moon’ was close to a gimme. Right in my hard left wheelhouse. Just like Rex, when I filled that in I had a big old smile. Plenty of good stuff to go along with it. Like a lot of people, I found the top harder than the bottom. I finished in the very NE.

mathgent 11:35 AM  

Didn't like it. Good crunch but very little sparkle. Also some real clunkers: LAIR for "Hollow" was especially annoying.

Someone (can't find who) complained that people who live in California don't call it Cali. I made the same bitch a while back but since I've come across several out-of-staters using that term.

Why did THIRSTTRAP catch on? It's awkward to say. It doesn't bring a sexy image to mind. Was it attributed to someone great?

I learned that alto is higher than TENOR. I thought that it was the other way.

bocamp 11:37 AM  

@Weezie (10:54 AM)

Well Said! :)
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Whatsername 11:40 AM  

Challenging would be an understatement but in my defense the level of proper names and trivia is pretty high.

I had never heard of WHITEY ON THE MOON so I googled it and read the full text. Must say I found it very illuminating and moving in the image it evokes. Then I googled the definition of whitey and in 100% of the responses I got some version of this: “an insulting and contemptuous term used by some black people for a white person or for white people collectively.” (Merriam Webster) Note that I’m not losing my mind here but I don’t get how that is acceptable in our crossword - and praiseworthy according to some - but racially tinged epithets in general are universally frowned upon.

600 11:40 AM  

I don't get it. How is "lair" the answer for Hollow, perhaps?

Lawrence Welk 11:42 AM  

Seems like the people who comment here and do puzzles might be getting political. You have to think a bit to know the town of Tema, A poem about the moon and whitey, Scar a character in an African cartoon.
I'm surprised at how much television Crossworders must watch....Pretty Little Liars.. another winner I've never seen. Guess I need to tune in to video games and Children's Harry Potter Fantasy stories....
I can't even get a handle on ancient fantasies

Joseph Michael 11:49 AM  

Loved APOTHEOSIS and INSECTIVORE. The rest of the puzzle, not so much.

Newboy 11:56 AM  

GEODES? Egad as granny would say! Brutal misdirection, minor characters & obscure geological references made this more challenge than fun. Loved Rex & had equally tough moments in the NW to finally see the (GULP) finish tape. Malaika and Erik are individually tough, but together diabolical in an almost endearing manner.

Doctor John 12:06 PM  

Thanks Malaika and Erik. A great puzzle should challenge and educate. This one did both. Once again, thank you!

Anonymous 12:08 PM  

Very nice difficult one! I actually minored in Germanic languages. Had IST instead of ACH. Never ran across ACH WAS. I could just imagine someone saying in surprise— IS WHAT?

I guess according to someone, I was in a coma for many years but I never heard of the poet/ singer or the poem which I thought was a tad racist.

I would agree that ASLAN is “stupid” if it suggests that the Christian God exists as an animal. Sorta portraying God somewhat like Zeus as a swan?

beverly c 12:11 PM  

This was a bear to solve. The NW almost did me in. I did look at a map of Ghana, finally. And I got help from my husband for WHITE man? ONTHEMOON and AGNES Varda.

I have to agree with folks calling out Rex on the not-literature slur on ASLAN. Even though it didn’t spring to my mind, it was nudging me. C.S. Lewis is in the puzzle often - he's pretty well respected I think.

No idea about CUTAWAYGAG, or THIRSTTRAP. What? Thirsty?

I was wondering about names for chile, cinnamon or ginger liqueurs, as I find LIMONCELLO syrupy sweet rather than zesty…
I was very satisfied when I figured out ITSSERIOUS and ANOTHERONE. Also AESOP and RELIC. Nice brain workout.

Anonymous 12:14 PM  

Fun fact. The numbers 1-5 are the same in Finland as in Estonia. No problem. Thirst trap, lion king reference, Jane Eyre reference, poison pill for me.

Anonymous 12:14 PM  

I don’t know why everyone is so worked up. The poem is actually about Yankees’ Hall-of-Famer Whitey Ford and that time he went to the moon.

Anonymous 12:19 PM  

I saw a cabaret singer with piano guy sing Whitey on the Moon around 1990. The singer was transvestite and they played it very seriously. For some reason it was one of the most poignant things I’ve ever experienced.

Weezie 12:27 PM  

I shared this as a direct comment to Bob, above, but I think I’m going to drop it with a few edits in the main commentary, in part in response to @Whatsername, my fellow nature lover with whom I often find myself so fervently agreeing. I share this in good faith and because it helps explain why this particular racial epithet in this context feels okay by me and likely to others:

For something to be racist as @Bob claims, it needs to exist within a societal pattern of oppression, power, and control in which that systemic power is maintained (intentionally or not) by marginalizing a particular racial identity. Because we white people as a category in America have historically and still do directly and indirectly benefit from the oppression and disenfranchisement of Black people/ Indigenous people/ people of color (BIPOC), we can’t experience racism. Meanwhile, Black folks daily live in fear of police violence, are less likely to be interviewed than white folks if they have a “Black-sounding” name, are more than 2.5 times as likely to die in childbirth than white people, and are criminalized for trying to ensure that their history is taught in schools. I would bet that all of us who comment here would agree that these are objectively bad and systematically unjust things, and I experience Heron’s language as a way of resisting that injustice.

White people can experience *discrimination*, sure, and I’d agree that the term is *discriminatory* and is a racial epithet against white people. And, I’d say that’s fair/fine with me, given all that’s been done to BIPOC in this country by white folks - the poem/song was written in 1970, just 16 years after segregation was declared illegal, for context. And, in cases like this poem, I would argue that it’s more about someone who has experienced racism and violence so profound from white institutions and individuals that he’s leveraging the punch of that word to make a cutting point about his country’s priorities. It’s impolite, sure, but in my opinion, it’s rhetorically impactful. Hell, here we are discussing it 50+ years after the fact.

I hope that’s helpful to understand where a lot of us are coming from, even if we disagree.

Joe Dipinto 12:29 PM  

@beverly c 12:11– I tried limoncello once and hated it. Talk about "ick factor". (Häagen-Dazs lemon sorbet also has an icky sweet taste. Don't buy it.)

Anonymous 12:39 PM  

Exactly. Other words which actually have valid meanings on their own are out but this one, with no other meaning (other than a name), is in.
I actually couldn’t care less- they’re all just words- but I felt the need to point out the hypocrisy.

Anonymous 12:55 PM  

I did really well on this one and also loved it. Usually Fridays are a struggle for me, relative newcomer that I am, but today's went pretty well. Knowing WHITEY ON THE MOON instantly helped a lot.

Doug 1:11 PM  

I really wanted 14D to be MOTORS so that we could have MOTORS and METERS holding down opposing corners of the grid.

Melrose 1:12 PM  

Very tough. Total Natickfest for me. Rhea crossing shay , trirsttrap crossing roar, Agnes crossing whiteyonthemoon.

Anonymous 1:18 PM  

When it comes to THIRST TRAP, it’s not so much named for the “sexy” part, but more the goal in mind, which is to post a photo specifically to elicit positive comments from the thirsty who scroll by. And I think “sexual” would be more correct than “sexy.” While not a negative term, it’s not necessarily positive either. It somewhat pokes at those who are thirsty enough to be turned on a stranger’s sultry pics, as well as somewhat poking at the person posting who is also thirsty for likes.

Agreed on the crunch with little sparkle. I like both of these folks as quality constructors, but the goal often seems to be to use a word list that is more about being obscure than interesting. And at least half the word list also does not seem to align with the repertoire I’ve seen reflected in their posts, so it also feels a bit disingenuous to the creator (which might explain the clunky clueing).

Bob Mills 1:18 PM  

For Weezie; Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Forgive me for extending the argument, but assuming you're right that the poet had suffered from discrimination personally, why does that constitute permission to delegitimize a remarkable scientific achievement, simply because the astronauts happened to have white skin? Did Neil Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin ever discriminate against African-Americans?

I promise to let you have the last word. Thanks again for the dialogue.

Anonymous 1:32 PM  

Okay, then……

Anonymous 2:02 PM  

I agree Sir Hillary, awful experience, needed too much help with it

Anonymous 2:08 PM  

The theme of the poem is inequality. Contrasting the poverty of Black America at the time with the grandiose display of wealth and power putting a man on the moon.

okanaganer 2:11 PM  

This was like a death march for me. So so many names and so many unknown names, or names I actually know but are clued so opaquely that it didn't matter. I think the puzzle is actually good but the cluing is vicious. Seriously on top of all that you had to clue ROAR as "Scar line"? An unnecessary name sneakily buried in the clue for such a common word.

Like @Nancy I had to Google the poem, and then said "hey I've heard that" but I remembered it as WHITEY'S ON THE MOON with the 's.

"ACH was" is translated by Google as just "What?" "No way" is not on the list. This is not to say that Germans don't actually use it that way, but again: so tough!

THIRST TRAP is new to me. Who would construct such a silly phrase?

I CHOOSE YOU reminds me of Ralph's Valentine card for Lisa Simpson. A picture of a steam train, with the words "I choo- choo- choose you!"

[Spelling Bee: yd 0, last word this 5er.]

Anonymous 2:16 PM  

Amen!

Anonymous 2:21 PM  

So right, Brian

Anonymous 2:24 PM  

We’ll said, Weezie!

Donna 2:43 PM  

Was it just me? Most of the long answers evoked Trump.

Cut-away gag
One-time use
Another one, It's serious
Whitey on the Moon (he's out there!)

(and talking to his wife)
I choose you, thirst trap

I need to reduce my news consumption, me thinks.

Anonymous 2:46 PM  

See Rex PPS

Whatsername 2:55 PM  

@Weezie (12:27) Thank you so much for your thoughtful, eloquent and informative response. You took a lot of time to fully explain your thoughts and I completely understand what you're saying and I do not disagree. And BTW, I'm flattered to know that you often agree with me.

While I was reading the poem, I tried to picture what that experience must have been like for someone living in the kind of abject poverty the words evoked and tried to imagine the hopelessness he must have felt. But as someone who lived in the white middle class all my life, I cannot possibly recreate those feelings; I can only try to understand them. However back in 1969, amid all the celebration and excitement of the moon landing, I'm absolutely certain I never gave it a thought. And that's the heartbreak right there. And that's the crux of your argument too IMHO. I didn't give it a thought because I had never experienced such emotions, so it didn't occur to me that anyone else had either.

Like a conversation I had with a black friend a few years ago about Confederate statues. We grew up in a community where a Confederal general once lived. An annual festival bearing his name was held every fall, and his polished bronze image stood prominently in the town square. I asked her opinion on the subject of removing it, and she responded with not how she feels NOW, but what it felt like back in the 1960s when we were growing up. She and her family all smiled and took part in the celebrations because they ran a business and they needed the goodwill of the predominantly white farming community for their very livelihood. But it had been deeply hurtful for them to be expected to publicly glorify someone who fought a war to defend the slavery of their ancestors. And again, I had considered her feelings now . . . but never then - not once, never then. We were neighbors and I spent time with her and her two sisters every school day, yet it never once occurred to me how hard that must have been for them. I can't tell you how ashamed I felt when I realized that.

So, to sum up, yes I do get what you're saying. The W word, shall we say, does still seem vaguely insulting but I understand the difference.

Masked and Anonymous 3:07 PM  

Woof. Reeeally tough FriPuz, at our house. Would list the no-knows and feisty clues, but easier to just list the stuff I knew right off the bat:
* HILL.

staff weeject pick: ERS. M&A had so many solvequest errs, that a misspelt errs seems perfecto, here.

At least @RP deemed this pup to be "Challenging". That made m&e feel better already.

fave thing: ICHOOSEU. [Modified here due to space conservations.]

Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Maliaka darlin & Mr. Agard dude. (M&A and Google in turn ganged up on this solvequest.)

Masked & Apotheosis [Ach! Vas have they done to m&e?!!]
And 4Us.


in prep for that there upcomin coronation:
**gruntz**

JJK 3:17 PM  

@Weezie 10:54 Thank you. What a clear and cogent explanation of what is and isn’t racism.

@Bob 1:18 The astronauts just happened to have white skin because there was no opportunity for black people to become astronauts.

But also, I think the song is mainly about white society’s willingness to spend millions of dollars to send someone to the moon with so many people of color living in poverty and squalor and lacking economic opportunity.

JC66 3:30 PM  

@M&A

Your "grunts" link doesn't work.

Cynthia 3:34 PM  

@ Bob Mills. Your reply to Weezie was very thoughtful. Have you listened to the poem? You might find the answers to your questions about the reason for the “delegitimization” of the hoopla around the moon landing.

Anonymous 3:36 PM  

Gil scott heron also did winter in america, which fit perfectly in that spot and screwed me up for a bit

Gary Jugert 3:44 PM  

To lighten the mood, especially since those in power will never understand what life without that power could be like, and perhaps shed some light on how reverse racism isn't a thing, I recommend the first five minutes of this Mike Birbiglia comedy special from 2006. Comedy Central Presents Mike Birbiglia

Weezie 3:45 PM  

@Whatsername, thanks so much for sharing these thoughts here; I really admire your honesty and how open you are to considering different perspectives and worldviews. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head between the parallels of the moon landing and the confederate statues.

And yes @Bob, more than happy to respond. The piece actually doesn’t have much at all to do with the moon landing itself, I think, and in my opinion, it has nothing at all to do with the individual astronauts who landed upon it. “Whitey” in those days was a stand-in for the *institution* of white supremacy as exemplified by the US government at the time, which was hungry to conjure up goodwill with something like the moon landing while distracting from the very real problems at home and abroad here on Earth. (ie, the Vietnam war, as mentioned by @jberg). The author describes the violence of poverty - a rat biting his sister, inaccessible healthcare, rising rents and taxes - speaking to deep social issues which were being obscured and de-centered by all the hoopla around the moon landing. He isn’t *able* to be excited about the scientific advances in space, because he and his people’s basic human needs and rights aren’t being met right here on earth.

And to be clear: I like space exploration and I think it’s important for the longevity of humanity (though I wish we’d take trying to save this planet more seriously.) I just don’t blame Scott-Heron for seeing it through the lens that he did at the time.

OISK 4:07 PM  

I'll stay out of politics. The "Whitey" poem ruined the puzzle for me - I had "White for the moon, " but not knowing "Manga," or Agnes, or Shay had no way to fix it. Buzzkill??? DNF for me, 4 wrong boxes. Frustrating, annoying, contrived, misleading - just awful.

CDilly52 4:14 PM  

I can “name that tune” in one word: brutal!!! Not only is this one so far outside my wheelhouse that I didn’t understand several clues and had to look things up before I could even take a stab at finding an answer, but the clever wordplay added to my ignorance caused me to do some alphabet running and resorting to WAGs. So I think technically I have a DNF but finished with at least 50 erasures. Prob’ly more.

All that said though, what a grand puzzle! Just seeing the bylines this morning made me hopeful and happy. I was not disappointed. Nearly flummoxed, but my perseverance paid off. And I experienced absolute unbridled the joy when the happy music played. Seriously. I have not had a mighty struggle with such a delightful payoff in ages! Sure, there have been some mighty struggles and there have been some delightful end of the week puzzles, but today we got the whole enchilada.

Gotta run, but thanks Malaika and Erik. A+. Please collaborate often. I enjoy each of your work enormously, but this collaboration is an absolute work of art! Thank you!

Liveprof 4:28 PM  

If you like Mike Birbiglia, his "Thank God for Jokes" is wonderful. It was on Netflix when I saw it.

(Thanks for slipping him in, GJ.)

Masked and Anonymous 5:01 PM  

p.s.
@JC66, 3:30pm:
Yep.
M&A has sent an SOS to the mighty @r.alph in tech support, about that.

M&A Help Desk

p.p.s.s.
Best Nat-tick in the FriPuz: WINTERMELON/MANGA/SHAY/AGNES/WHITEY[ONTHEMOON part was kinda gettable, tho].


ccredux 5:06 PM  

Never heard of Scott-Heron or the poem/song. Listened to it on YouTube and read bio on Wikipedia.
Thanks for all of the comments about Whitey On The Moon especially the mini- debate between @Bob Mills and @Weezie .
I’ve participated in a few racism seminars where we discussed books. All of them have been devoted to telling me what a racist I am. Even though this is stimulating , no attention is given to how to change, what to do, how to account. Nor do I come away from such with any firm idea of what racist or racism is. I would think that the Heron poem is racist but I am sure I would be assigned to the ignorant class by many.

Enjoyed a challenging puzzle. Sort of a smorgasbord of fun answers .

Anoa Bob 6:44 PM  

Now and then my two years in Japan in the 80s comes in handy solving xwords as it did today with 35A MANGA and 64D NOH. Seemed like every teenager on a train and subway had their head buried in a MANGA no hon (comic book). They were as thick as an old Sears & Roebuck catalog. Never did see a NOH play, though. Preferred sumo wrestling.

The highpoint of my solve was when the H of NOH and the P of AESOP in 68A "Deification" gave me a slam dunk on APOTHEOSIS. Word nerd's delight! (Not to be confused with APOSTASY.) INSECTIVORE was a close second. Humans are sometimes INSECTIVOREs. Chocolate covered ants anyone?

I'm not, however, as enamored to the long conversational snippet-like phrases. Stuff like ONE TIME USE, I CHOOSE YOU, NOT FOR SALE, ITS SERIOUS and ANOTHER ONE are about as ho-hum for me as it gets. (The last one strikes me as a 10 letter partial.) The are full of very common letters, aka low Scrabble score letters, so they are very useful in filling long slots in the grid, i.e., easier to get crossing entries. Just not very interesting. Non-nutritional filler if you ask me.

Seemed like the clue for 45A MOSCOW "World capital whose last two letters are its first two letters upside down" had Mr. Shortz's finger prints all over it. My question is "How can you tell when the letter "O" is upside down and when it's not?"

Sandy McCroskey 7:14 PM  

@Bob Mills The whole point of the poem/song is that white-dominated America cared more about getting to the moon than in redressing the evils that white supremacy inflicted upon black folks. Reconstruction was prematurely halted by a recrudescence of racism, leading to Jim Crow, and no reparations for slavery have ever been forthcoming. But the poem/song really should make this clear to anyone with ears to hear. Yeah, "whitey" is pejorative here and is meant to be. You got that right! But you don't have to take it so personal.

Masked and Anonymous 7:31 PM  

p.s.
@JC66, 3:30pm, again:

The mighty @r.alphbunker has sent M&A the followin message, about the runtpuz server link:

"Server is down and unfortunately I am on the road without the computer to bring it back up. I will be back in a week and restart the server."

Sooo … Looks like it's vacation time!

M&Also

Thrasymachus 7:51 PM  

Fun in parts, but a mis-scheduled (very) difficult Saturday. Clueing (spelling?) here might have saved it, and I blame the puzzle editor for not doing so.

Anonymous 7:52 PM  

Hardest NYT puzzle ever for this 61 year old boomer. Maybe time to quit if the cultural references are this vague to me.

JC66 8:14 PM  

@M&A

Thanks. Love your "gruntz" and can't believe I'm the only one.

Anonymous 8:43 PM  

I love the Gil Scott-Heron too, but it does not a puzzle make. The NE was ridiculous. Terrible, terrible cluing.

Tpop 9:59 PM  

Agree with you on that! Took me a hair over 12 mins and knowing my Gil Scott-Heron off the bat had to have done some good.

Anonymous 11:02 PM  

Thank you

Anonymous 11:20 PM  

As a White Person, I’m always surprised by the new and different ways that I get to be surprised. The very idea that I should be offended that a Black man (in 1970, no less) might have certain ideas about “Whitey” going to the moon, after a century of enslavement and oppression, and the effects thereof, is really something special. What the hell do folks think he should’ve been feeling? I can’t believe this is controversial. In a crossword.

Teedmn 12:30 AM  

I really wanted MANGA but the Teton “range” got in my way. ALTa is a ski resort, after all. :-)

And my other DNF was WHITEs ON THE MOON. Not quite GULP level, more forehead slap level.

Malaika and Erik, thanks, but save it for Saturday next time, as if you had a say.

Anonymous 12:36 AM  

Aah. Thank you.

Anonymous 5:42 AM  

I’m sorry you’re having such a difficult time but I think a bit of perspective is in order: Even with (unlikely) hothouse Earth scenarios of out of control global heating (6C+), parts of the planet will still be infinitely more livable for humans than any extraterrestrial setting. The “let’s leave Earth to survive” crowd seem incapable of grasping the most glaring limitations of technology and economy much less human nature itself. Heck, we’re decades away (if ever) from feasible, economical direct carbon capture technology that might provide some hope of restoring the climate to its pre-Anthropocene balance, so fantasies of space colonization by demonstrably idiotic billionaire bros are just that: fantasies. Broken climate or not, my bet is on Spaceship Earth (for at least the next 100 millennia or so). I hope you feel better soon.

Anonymous 5:47 AM  

What Weezie said!

Anonymous 5:53 AM  

Thanks for the laugh! I think I might need to reduce my news consumption too…

Anonymous 6:40 AM  

Amen

Uncle Moishy 1:38 PM  

LOL! No exaggeration, either.

Uncle Moishy 1:43 PM  

I don’t know about Neil or Buzz, but NASA’s discrimination in the ‘60’s against a black astronaut-in-training has been well documented.

Anonymous 3:44 PM  

I was sure I would have a dnf. Had to leave it overnight and was able to finish today. Knew few of the proper nouns and yet with crosses, they were gettable. Great Saturday puzzle, mis-placed on a Friday.

Anonymous 4:54 PM  

Add me to that list!

Anonymous 2:57 PM  

I understand the social problems we have, but I do the puzzle (partially) to escape such things. I'd prefer not to see any words categorizing people by their skin color in the puzzle.

Anonymous 7:35 AM  

Hope you feel better. Have a better May.

Anonymous 1:11 PM  

Similarly elated to have a Gil centerpiece, especially for the classic Whitey on The Moon. Anyone unfamiliar, take time with his entire amazing catalog.
Also thrilled to see my VP candidate crush Winona LaDuke get a nod!! Dedicated champion of indigenous rights. Much love.
Moscow was a goofy and fun cluing. And kinda liked the pairing of Another One and It’s Serious…no really I know Ive had a lot of partners but this just might work 😂
Lot of cringy fill, but overall a winner

spacecraft 10:41 AM  

Forget DNF: but for a single word, DNS! Honest, NOH was the only thing I could write. ALL the rest was either I-have-no-idea or that-could-be-anything. This puzzle is strictly for intellectuals, which I am not.

Wordle bogey. Not my best day.

rondo 11:47 AM  

So challenging it led to DNF. Got about 75%. Did not know/recall WHITEYONTHEMOON. Circled: SHAY Mitchell.
Wordle birdie.

Burma Shave 12:19 PM  

SNEER NOT

SHAY's TORSO, IT'S soft,
IT'S THE ONE that ICHOOSE,
I THIRST FOR IT OFT,
NOTFOR just ONETIMEUSE.

--- AGNES HILL

Anonymous 2:53 PM  

Both conspirators deserve the pie treatment.

Anonymous 3:27 PM  

A good challenge I look forward to Erik Agard puzzles. They’re tough and not always really fair but they really make you think. Got tripped up after I checked my spelling for APOTHEOSIS and had an E instead of an A and an I instead of an O. So a DNF for me because of two little squares which was completely preventable had I taken the time to comple the crosses (WININA and ALTO). Anyways, it was good fun to solve and that’s all that really matters. Thank you Malaika and Erik!

Diana, LIW 9:13 PM  

I'm sure some folks found some joy whilst solving this. I was not in that group.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

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