Weapon in "Ivanhoe" / THU 10-22-26 / Region that produces Riesling wine / Island capital that's an anagram for a word meaning "steamy baths" / Small grouse / Some supermarkets, in brief / Her breast milk created the Milky Way, in Greek myth / Instrument heard at Rosh Hashana services /

Thursday, October 22, 2026

Constructor: David J. Kahn

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium

THEME: "NO CHANCE!" (60A: "FORGET IT!" ... or phonetic hint to aligning seven answers in this puzzle with their starred clues) — in order for theme answers to make sense, you must take chants (that is, the "OM"s) out of them; so: "No Chants!":

Theme answers:
  • TOM HANKS (17A: *It may precede or follow "a million") (thanks)
  • AXIOMS (19A: *Line used in plotting points) (axis)
  • ALAMO DOME (30A: *Trendy) (à la mode)
  • LANCOME (34A: *Weapon in "Ivanhoe") (lance)
  • POMPOMS (38A: *Second letter addendum, for short) (P.P.S.)
  • HOMEROOMS (45A: *Subs) (heros)
  • SALOME (57A: *Inventory clearance option) (sale)
Word of the Day: Peter MAX (9D: Late psychedelic artist Peter) —

 
Peter Max Finkelstein (October 19, 1937 – September 14, 2026), known professionally as Peter Max, was a German-American artist known for using bright colors in his work. Works by Max are associated with the visual arts and culture of the 1960s, particularly psychedelic art and pop art. He was noted for his artwork that ranged from posters of Day-Glo flowers, butterflies, rainbows, stars, and planets, which, according to The New York Times, "expressed the blissed-out exuberance of the countercultural 1960s". His work was often described as symbolic of the 1960s counterculture movement. // Max died from complications of dementia at a hospital in New York, on September 14, 2026, at the age of 88. (wikipedia)
• • •

Got the "OM" gimmick pretty early. Right here:


At this point, I hadn't even looked at the clue for the first themer (TOM HANKS). I tend to work like a termite, just munching away at whatever is in front of me or near me and not really thinking about longer answers until I've chewed up a lot of smaller ones. I also just tend to follow my success, wherever that leads me. Always Be Working Crosses. Better (for me) to keep mowing down short answers, or longer answers where I have a lot of letters in place, then to take a chance on a clue for a longer answer where I don't have so much in place. (I actually had a lot of that first themer in place—half in fact—but I had my head down, as it were, and didn't really think to look at it). I ended up with the LANC- part of LANCOME and the rest just sort of filled itself in; then I looked at it for a few seconds, saw the weapon ("lance") plus the added bit ("OM") and had it. Or had something. At that point I took a trip back up to TOMH- there at 17A: *It may precede or follow "a million" and since I knew the "OM" bit was probably added, I took it out (mentally), and "Thanks" was a cinch (though I don't think I've ever heard someone say "a million thanks"—in my experience, it's exclusively "thanks a million"). And since now it seemed that adding (or subtracting) "OM"s was the only trick to the puzzle, future starred clues presented very few problems.


It's a simple theme but it has its delightful moments. I love that the theme snowballs a bit as it goes along, with the "OM"s doubling up in POMPOMS and HOMEROOMS. POMPOMS is more "OM"s than answer! I also like the revealer a lot. I didn't get it at first. "How does 'OM' represent chance?" I wondered. If there's "NO CHANCE" in those answers, then sure the "OM" must represent "chance" somehow. But no. The key word in the revealer clue is "phonetic." So I started repeating the revealer to myself (like a chant!). "No chance no chance ... chance chance chance ... chants? Oh, chants! No chants!" A silly but funny revealer to brighten an otherwise ordinary "add-a-letter (or two, or four)" theme concept.


The hardest part of the puzzle for me, by far, was the NE. I think HUSTLE was at the heart of the problem, since I kept expecting the answer to 13D: Step on it to be something you step on (stair, scale, etc.) We had this whole discussion recently about whether that type of clue, where the answer is the "it" rather than something synonymous with the entire clue phrase, should get a "!" or not. Historically, yes, but sometimes now. As with "?" clues, the rules seem not to be fixed. Anyway, today, despite the absence of the "!" I went looking for a thing that one steps on. No luck. IS ONTO is such a terrible awkward standalone phrase that I couldn't see it (11D: Understands, despite efforts at concealment). I probably could've gotten NASSAU if I'd taken the time to think about and unlock the clue ("saunas" => NASSAU), but I was working off just "Island capital" and that wasn't enough (16A: Island capital that's an anagram for a word meaning "steamy baths"). [Fraternity letter] is like the least helpful clue imaginable. Every three-letter Greek letter? I dunno. I forgot Peter MAX's name. And oof, INAS. INAS!?!?! That's so bad it makes me want to apologize to IS ONTO, which looks terribly respectable, dapper even, next to slovenly INAS. Who let him in!? So no fun up there. But mostly fun elsewhere.


Bullets:
  • 1A: Her breast milk created the Milky Way, in Greek myth (HERA) — I did not know this. Eating the Milky Way minis out of the Halloween candy this year is gonna feel a little different this year.
  • 14A: Some supermarkets, in brief (IGAS)— the crosswordesiest supermarket is bad enough (not all parts of the country have them), but in the plural, yeesh. Aside from the SAAR SLRS train wreck at the bottom of the grid, I thought the fill in this one held up OK. But IGAS, not my fav.
  • 23A: Small grouse (NIT) — really wanted a bird here. A birdlet. Apparently a baby grouse is just a "chick."
  • 64A: Region that produces Riesling wine (SAAR) — why is "wine" in this clue? What else could "Riesling" be? TACOS? 
  • 42A: "Oz the Great and Powerful" director, 2013 (RAIMI) — I laughed at this one because I have no idea what this movie is. I already had RAI- in place so the answer was transparent, but wow, that movie—did it happen? Nearly half a billion box office says yes, but do people remember it? Talk about it. It starred James Franco??? 2013 was weird, man. I feel like the Wicked movies are the Oz movies of the century and everything else is an afterthought. But also, the 00's and most of the '10s were admittedly the least movie-goingest time of my life, so my being ignorant of a hit movie from this time period is not terribly surprising. 
  • 62A: Like Alban Berg's opera "Lulu" (ATONAL) — another one I got easily despite having zero familiarity with the work in question. The title makes this opera sound fun. ATONAL ... I dunno. But maybe I'll give it a try. Cuing Lulu music ... now.
[whoa, no one told me it was a film noir, I'm in]
  • 5D: World capital known as the "City for Peace" (HANOI) — had the "AN" and went with SANA'A (!?). World capital kealoa!*
That's all for today. See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

*kealoa = a pair of words (normally short, common answers) that can be clued identically and that share at least one letter in common (in the same position). These are answers you can't just fill in quickly because two or more answers are viable, Even With One or More Letters In Place. From the classic [Mauna ___] KEA/LOA conundrum. See also, e.g. [Heaps] => ATON or ALOT, ["Git!"] => "SHOO" or "SCAT," etc.   

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109 comments:

RTWhite 6:07 AM  

EGOMANIA , although a Down answer, kinda ruins the flow of the theme...

Rick Sacra 6:25 AM  

Yeah, I noticed the "MO" in ALOMODOME as a bit distracting too. Wow, this one had a lot of theme material! 70 squares of theme+revealer! 37% theme is a lot. So I was definitely impressed with that. Took me forever to get the conceit too, had almost the same experience of chanting "chance" over and over and finally figuring out that OM was our chant. I think of it as a mantra, something you hum more than chant.... But close enough, right? EGOMANIA, ORIGINAL MODELCAR, STEELERS, all nice. Those NW and SE corner longs are the stars, SAAR and SLRS notwithstanding.... thanks, David, for this! (3 days....)

Gary Jugert 6:30 AM  

Lo digo en serio.

Yeesh. So difficult. The reveal was of zero help as "chants" never evoked "om" in my head. There's also an ocean of gunk to wade through, so a big raspberry from me.

I saw the extra OM and that helped figure out the others theme answers after many many crosses, but after three times my usual solve time I was still undone by the dog, the anagram, the painter, and that sad entry for ADEPTS. All those problems in the northeast.

Not super fun for me, and after a tough week we're headed into the wasteland of a themeless weekend. I'll almost be looking forward to the tragic tales of the downs-only solvers by Monday.

Lots of musical entries I should've enjoyed more, but it's mostly gunk as clued. ASH is used on electric guitars, not real guitars. They're made with spruce or cedar. Any service with a RAM'S HORN sounds dreadful ... literally.

HISS AT is in no way an alternative to boo. It's what your cat does to you when you try to comb them because I swear they're all wired up wrong.

Gunkometer--
People: 7
Places: 4
Products: 8
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 4
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 28 of 74 (38%)

Funny Factor: 3 😐

🔥 Ooh-la-la! 🔥 ASS.

Uniclues:

1 God's fascinator is saucy.
2 Smelly cheerleaders.
3 Ass?
4 What a betting app provides in the long run.
5 The drug getting the right wing stoned.
6 Unbelievable request to the low rider upholsterer.
7 Did the walk of shame in hacky comedies.
8 Can tell the twins apart.

1 HERA HAT IMPISH
2 LANCÔME POMPOMS
3 HERO'S B-SIDE
4 NO CHANCE SALE (~)
5 EGOMANIA OPIATE
6 TASSELS. I MEAN IT.
7 TRAMP STRODE
8 IS ONTO ORIGINAL

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Lady serving up a nuclear catastrophe. FUSION WAITRESS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mike 6:30 AM  

Despite having zero overwrites, this not only took me a relative eternity, it was perhaps one of my least-favorite puzzles I've ever done.

I hate not only the revealer, but the phrasing of its clue- "aligning" made me think the clues were out-of-order or something. I hate that EGOMANIA also contains "OM". I hate that there were two "world capitals", but also an "island capital" nearby. I hate the answer HAT being a few blocks over from a clue containing "hat". I hate the Saturday-level clueing in a Thursday puzzle- why is *that* the film chosen for Sam RAIMI, why is *that* the clue for IDO, and why do we need to take multiple leaps to parse "Tops of palaces?" I hate ADEPTS- it's somehow the ugliest word I can imagine- and there are a ton of bad plurals (IGAS, AMS, SLRS, TELS).

Half a star, and I'm being generous.

Dr Random 7:04 AM  

I likewise did not know that HERA’s breast milk created the Milky Way, and unfortunately for me I immediately assumed it was GAIA/GAEA (which in retrospect makes no sense) and confirmed it with the cross at ASH, so this puzzle got off to a great start. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Mike Duchek 7:10 AM  

Wow. I finished this somehow... without ever grasping the theme. I actually got 60 across and even translated it phonetically to NO CHANTS (which in itself is already a tortured thing) but couldn't figure what kind of chant had been removed from TOM HANKS to get that. After all, it was *no* chants. It never occurred to me that the chant had been added, not removed. I'm also not sure I would have ever connected OM as chant. So I plugged away just confused. I should have noticed the OMs in common, but sheesh.

Anonymous 7:10 AM  

I filled in the grid and got the “keep trying” message. I kept trying to figure out the theme and discovered that if I removed the “pps” from POMPOMS it left OMs. I then saw all the theme answers had OMs except for 1 across, for which I had TOTHANKS. Hmmm, no OM. I filled in TOMHANKS and got the music without making the “chance” - “chants” connection. Oh well.

Liveprof 7:13 AM  

My first thought was the constructor must be from Omsk -- but he's from Minsk!! (No he's not.)

Possible titles for the puzzle: "OM Alone." "OM Sweet OM." "OM is where the heart is." "Chants encounters."

One of my favorite episodes of The Andy Griffith Show is the one where OPIATE all the cookies Aunt Bee baked for Barney and Barney got all upset.

Adventures in Etymology: The phrase "Pish Posh" originated when a gent named Arthur Pish bumped into Murray Posh and said "Hello, IMPISH," thus planting the seed.

A fun puzzle! I have no AXIOMS to grind. Who doesn't love POMPOMS?

Mike Duchek 7:15 AM  

Yes, all of this. I also wondered about "aligned," which turned out to be a red herring. And from no chants I was expecting that the answers removed the chant, but no. It was "CHANT ADDED." Boo. Lots of little complaints too. SLRs have lots of lense options, not just 35mm, though maybe 35mm was common back in the day.

RooMonster 7:16 AM  

Hey All !
Had the opposite experience on this puz from Rex. Couldn't get the ole brain to see what was going on.

Wondered why there were superfluous OMs roaming in the Themers. I had figured out the Revealer first, but couldn't get from CHANCE to CHANTS. "What is with these OMs?", I yelled.

Came here, sat at my school desk, and let the professor tell me what in tarhooties the Theme was. Ah, phonetic. CHANCE to CHANTS. Should I say OHO!? Turned out to be an apt Revealer, as I had NO CHANCE of figuring out the Theme.

Seeing it now, I'll say clever, but still a NIT about it. Do like that they are all real words with the extra OMs in them. ALA MODE to ALAMODOME is rather neat.

Good puz, would've liked it better if my silly brain recognized what was happening.

Not putting much Hoorah into football these days, but have always been a fan of the STEELERS, so nice to see them. Don't think they'll get too far this year, but I'll still root for them, though not as rabidly as I once did.

Welp, hope y'all have a great Thursday!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 7:17 AM  

A sauna is not a bath. 3 world capital clues in the top third of the puzzle -- 2 right next to each other? That's just sloppy and lazy. This puzzle was awful all around.

kitshef 7:30 AM  

There is a notable painting by Titian called The Origin of the Milky Way. Alas, that painting is always described using Roman gods - so juno rather than HERA went into my grid.

That was the first of many misadventures on a puzzle I found to be very tough overall.

I didn't get the theme until post-solve. I knew to take out 'OM', but I didn't know why.

Surprised Rex let AMS - a terrible answer and clue - slide today.

kitshef 7:32 AM  

Oh, and it bothered me that most of the OMs are not pronounced like the chant of OM.

Anonymous 7:40 AM  

same gaia. same confirmation. less enjoyment.

Anonymous 7:41 AM  

This was terrible. What’s with all the capitals that have nothing to do with the theme. No chance = No chants. UGH. Didn’t get it after I solved it. Caught onto the removing OM quickly with TOMHANKS but what a slog and zero fun. Agree with the half a star ranking someone else put.

David Eisner 7:44 AM  

Looking at Rex's snapshot: What is OARA?

I found this unusually difficult for a Thursday, though I was also up way too late. But that's usually the case, so that excuse only goes so far.

Lewis 7:48 AM  

A capital-R Riddle-fest.

First, overcoming slippery clues, and David is a slippery clue master. From clues that yield several answers, such as [Fraternity letter] to cluing NASSAU for the first time ever with an anagram clue.

Second, cracking the gimmick, that when you take the OMs out, you get the answer to the clue.

Third, figuring out why those OMs are there, and high praise to anyone who did that before uncovering the revealer.

Finally, making sense of the revealer itself, answering the question, “What does NO CHANCE have to do with anything here?”

A four-level Riddle in the box today, from a constructor with nearly 200 Times puzzles over 32 years. I hear from constructors often about how hard it is to come up with themes. Does David J. Kahn have a fertile brain or what?

And wit. Coming up with NO CHANCE for the revealer was, IMO, simply brilliant.

I, who adore riddles, had a glorious time with your puzzle, David. Please keep ‘em coming. Thank you so much for this!

Lewis 7:48 AM  

[Soft drink since 1905]




ROMCOM

Anonymous 7:50 AM  

Ah, I thought it was “Noh chants”

Son Volt 7:53 AM  

Loved the trick - simple as the big guy highlights but fun to work. POMPOMS stood out for the double OM.

The Lady Is A TRAMP

Overall fill was 50-50. Don’t love the EGOMANIA dupe and the world capital infatuation was odd. RAMS HORN, STEELERS, I MEAN IT are all top notch. Liked MARLON but just too easy for late week. The ADEPTS form is a little stodgy. Not a lot of pushback in this grid.

Enjoyable Thursday morning solve.

Mentira SALOMÉ

Taking Back Thursday 7:57 AM  

Good puzzle. Good review. On to Friday!

Anonymous 7:57 AM  

This puzzle theme was cute. Watching anonymouses sputter bitterly in the comments is giving me extra delight. Very entertaining.

jberg 8:07 AM  

Pretty tough for me, particularly because I'd forgotten that a shofar was a RAMS HORN, and did not know there was an ALAMODOME. Now that I know, I don't like it--the Alamo is a memorial, more or less SACRED. Next they'll be building the Meccadome--well, there is a dome in Mecca, but it's not a stadium.
Anyway, my breakthrough came when I clicked in the revealer and all the theme answers lit up in yellow. There was TOM HANKS, lacking a few letters and I could see how to make it fit the clue, by taking out the OM. That did it.

Tastes vary. I like it when there is a minitheme like world capitals.

crabbyeabbye 8:17 AM  

I think I really enjoyed this one (and I was so proud to know about Hera’s breast milk!), but my one question is for the linguists out there: Are “chance” and “chants” really close enough phonetically? It took me a while to accept that answer, even after I’d figured out the Oms, because I thought/think that most of us really pronounce that “t” in “chants.” I don’t want to be nit-picky, but isn’t that the kind of thing that crossword experts criticize?

Lynn 8:21 AM  

Overrated at 3 stars. I agree with a lot of the negative comments I've read here. I was bothered that the actual theme answers as they appear in the grid are just sitting there alone with no connection to anything.

JoePop 8:28 AM  

Do you mean OARS?

JoePop 8:29 AM  

Without Rex's explanation, I would have had no idea what this themer was doing. And even with the explanation, I'm kind of in doubt.

Anonymous 8:33 AM  

I know! Next time someone says Rex is too nitpicky, be sure to refer them to this comments section. He didn’t complain about AMS enough? There are too many world capitals?? Hahaha

Anonymous 8:35 AM  

The theme is transparent, especially after the explanation. I don’t believe that you don’t understand or are “in doubt”—troll behavior

Anonymous 8:39 AM  

They sound identical

Ted 8:41 AM  

Rex my friend, bump this thing up to Challenging territory. What a slog. Even after I got the revealer, it was STILL rough filling in all the corners, especially the NE. INAS? ISONTO? AXIOMS? Just... struggles all around with the too-clever cluing.

Anonymous 8:43 AM  

I just didn’t like it. DNF. No 🎈for me.

David Grenier 8:46 AM  

Could not for the life of me figure out how the revealer connected to the themers until I came here.

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

Not challenging, certainly not for a proper Thursday. Rex already covered how bad/hard that one corner is. The rest was a breeze.

Anonymous 9:14 AM  

Agreed. The theme/revealer was a stretch. Coupled with poor cluing made this doubly hard. Finished eventually, but not a fan

egsforbreakfast 9:21 AM  

It is thought that Dickens loved graham crackers, marshmallows and chocolate. This is chiefly inferred from Oliver Twist's famous line, "Please, Sir, I want SMORE."

A RAMSHORN in winter is one cold goat.

Brian Wilson was BSIDE himself on the relegation of "God Only Knows" to secondary status. He was a genius, of course, but you wouldn't know it from HISSAT scores.

I'm befuddled by the animosity toward things like multiple world capitals. If this causes you angst, I'd suggest a different pastime. I liked this a lot. I figured early on that we were looking to shed "OM"s, but couldn't come up with a good guess at a revealer. The CHANCE/chants switch was a delightful surprise. Thanks, David J. Kahn.

Anonymous 9:27 AM  

There was NOCHANCE I was reading that as NOCHANTS. Similar sounding, sure. Even after finishing and looking back at it, I really don’t like it.

I suppose it could have worked as a one/off, cutesy, punny clue. However, building an entire puzzle around it was a poor decision, in my opinion.

Sorry David! Normally like you work!

mathgent 9:28 AM  

Really enjoyed finding the OMs and the fill had its moments. I feel sorry for all the above who didn't enjoy this wonderful work.

Whatsername 9:32 AM  

Those tragic tales were what put me off Mondays for good.

Whatsername 9:42 AM  

Felt very sloggish. SO much trivia, I had no idea what was going on with the theme, and the revealer just left me bewildered. Do what? I mostly finished but scored it as a DNF or more accurately, a DNC – did not care. If you got the trick, I can see where there would have been a nice aha moment. But no joy for me, mostly just suffering and frustration. I hate when a theme has to be explained.

Szechuan Dumplings 9:58 AM  

Ditto

Anonymous 9:59 AM  

Agreed! 👍🏼

Lynn 10:07 AM  

If S'MORE is a contraction, what's the full word or phrase?

Anonymous 10:08 AM  

RAMSHORN bothered me because it’s not an instrument — shofar is the instrument, and it can be from horns of animals other than rams.

Hugh 10:16 AM  

I love it when a solve results in my saying (almost out loud), "How in the world did someone come up with this?" It has to take a skilled and seasoned constructor to dream up a theme like this and execute it so well. I had a blast this morning.

I think the light bulb went off with HOMEROOMS and it was a lot of fun working to parse the others. I personally like it when the revealer lets us know how many themers we're looking for, maybe that's laziness on my part but hey, ya like what ya like.

Like @Rex and some others, it took me a bit to grock what the themer was telling me. Are we looking for different words for chance? Like risk? Odds? Opportunity (way too long)? So when HOMEROOM fell with the double OM, that was an "aha" moment I won't soon forget. If I would have paid closer attention to the "phonetic" part of the clue, it might have moved the process along a little quicker.

Embarrassed to admit that the Jewish upper west side guy was scratching his head a bit at 3D and the Rosh Hashana instrument. I kept trying to get *shofar* to fit, thinking there was some alternate spelling I wasn't aware of, but some of the crosses finally came to the rescue and that was enough momentum to tackle the NW.

The NE was tough for me overall. Before the gimmick hit me, I had *exaxis* at 19A and that gummed up the works for me in that neighborhood. On top of that, IMPISH, ISONTO and HUSTLE were a bit crunchy. SAMIAM made up for all that, though.

A little to the West of these I threw down *Haiti* instead of HANOI because I had the HA- - I, the clue with the definition is equally head scratching for both places, I guess...

The long downs in the NW and SE are all great fill. It doesn't bother me that EGOMANIA stole the theme material, it looks very nice in the grid.

David, color me impressed. I would have liked to be there when the idea for this hit you! This was a great romp, thank you!

Anonymous 10:25 AM  

Did not enjoy this one — made a BLEH noise when I finished. I picked up the gimmick midway through and solved the SE corner last because I was second-guessing the revealer. And all the world capitals… not a fun solve.

Anonymous 10:27 AM  

Note to Rex: Berg's Lulu is a magnificent work, but absolutely not "fun." The plot includes several suicides and murders. Quite tragic

Anonymous 10:28 AM  

Linguist here, and yes close enough. Notice that you're probably putting a little glottal stop between the /a/ and /n/ in "chance" (compare with "cans" which doesn't do this), which is also one of our ways of pronouncing /t/ in many words.

Anonymous 10:36 AM  

The Hera => Milky Way myth comes from the (little-known) tradition wherein Hera is actually the mother of Heracles/Hercules...

Hugh 10:41 AM  

I agree @mathgent

Anonymous 10:44 AM  

LULU is a masterpiece requiring BIG ears. I recommend: https://youtu.be/u5ft39UKVtc?is=548DulWwsWln3mMr 

Anonymous 10:46 AM  

Yeah, especially first thing in the AM!

Anonymous 10:46 AM  

I think Rex needs to recalibrate what he calls Easy-Medium. This was a hard puzzle. I even got the No Chance/Chants thing half way through and it was still difficult. I loved it. Great puzzle. But this was up there with tough Friday and average Saturday difficulty. Hanoi, Ankara, Nassau. Operas, Artists, Directors, Sports? Not to mention Saar as a region? Tough and fantastic puzzle. But not easy-medium.

Teedmn 10:57 AM  

This was fun. I caught on early (TOM HANKS) and figured the revealer would have something to do with meditation so NO CHANCE was fun to uncover. I even got POMPOMS with only the first PO in place.

NASSAU, got it off the N. Here in Minnesota, with so many people of Finnish descent, the pronunciation of SAUNA is sometimes controversial. In the southern half of the state, the most common is saw-na. Up north, where the Finns settled, it's SOW-na (like the pig, not planting seeds.) Since our neighbor is part Finnish, I have taken to saying SOW-na as he does.

FORM as a bit of red tape was hard for me to see right off. I get it, FORMs seem to be everywhere, and the same info is requested over and over again. Don't you people have computers to hold this information?

David J. Kahn, thanks for a unique Thursday puzzle.

EasyEd 10:59 AM  

I laughed out loud after filling in NOCHANCE! That was the likelihood of my ever figuring out this puzzle on my own. I should have solved it easily once I had TO-HANKS because I felt strongly there had to be THANKS somewhere in there, but I simply moved on and never caught on. I initially though “B”‘ might be a missing letter and 2 down was short for bRAsSHORN, but that was about as far as my puny analytics got.

Anonymous 10:59 AM  

Some more

Anonymous 11:11 AM  

“Rex needs to recalibrate difficulty ratings to fit my personal experience” ok. Everything you mention besides maybe SAAR is easy. Difficulty levels vary from person to person. Who cares if he thinks a puzzle is easy and you don’t or vice versa?

jae 11:11 AM  

Medium-tough for me. I figured out the OM trick about a third of the way in but it still took me three tries to get ALAMO DOME right. Plus, the NE took some effort for the reasons @Rex covered.

No costly erasures.

I did not know RAIMI and HANOI (as clued) and I too had forgotten Peter MAX.

Chuckle worthy reveal, liked it.





Anonymous 11:31 AM  

Clue for NASSAU is annoying, because a sauna is a dry heat, not a steamy heat.

Anonymous 11:36 AM  

You missed a chance to mention your phonetically aligned buddy, Mr. Ohm.

Anonymous 11:50 AM  

Hiss at this very unpleasant solving experience. Boo!

Hack mechanic 11:50 AM  

Got it finished in the end, had to cheat on Peter Max (even though his obit & art was just recently everywhere) but never made sense of the revealer. Had to read Rex for that. Enjoyable anyway

pabloinnh 11:50 AM  

Well...loved it! Started off with guessing HERA which led to the whole NW in a hurry, ran into TOMHANKS and saw the OM needed to go, confirmed by LANCOME, was in the SE soon enough and read the revealer clue and confidently filled in NOCHANTS, which of course I had to fix. I had thought of this homophonic connection years ago when I came up with Sausage! Mushrooms! Green peppers! Extra cheese! All we are saying, is give pizza chants. So you see, it could be worse. Sorry.

NE was the hardest. I had FATAL so the second A led to THECAT. No. My lead in to "much" was THIS. No. The H from THECAT led to HONSHU. Very wrong. Thought of something to do with an AXIS which led to Mr. MAX and SAMIAM and victory. eventually. Whew.

I have seen the ALAMODOME which locals refer to as a dead armadillo, as it looks like it has four feet sticking up. I know Mr. RAIMI from crosswords but not from this movie. Big side eye to ADEPTS. Ugh.

Great stuff, DJK. Delightful, Just Knew some people wouldn't like it, but I sure did. Thanks for all the fun.

Anonymous 12:05 PM  

Came here to discover what the h. OM had to do with Chance. Easy enough puzzle to do without knowing, but yet another guess-the-theme rather than use-the-theme. Though knowing to put in OMs after tOMhanks was helpful.

Anonymous 12:13 PM  

@Anonymous 10:28 Isn't it rather the transition from n to c (s-sound) where the t sound occurs? Isn't this epenthesis?

Anonymous 12:22 PM  

re your FORM comment : more than one I've followed the instructions to fill out forms online in advance of my appointment only to arrive and be handed a clipboard and pen with hard copies of the same forms.

Anonymous 12:29 PM  

Better revealer IMO - fat chance

Masked and Anonymous 12:32 PM  

har. Nice, playful ThursPuztheme. Figured out the OM incursion strategy pretty early, after TOMHANKS & LANCOME. But the NOCHANCE revealer failed to register with m&e. Had to come here, to learn that CHANCE sounds like CHANTS. Close, I'll grant. Shoulda figured it out.

staff weeject pick: OM. honrable mention to MOO.

fave thing: EGANIA. Could clue it up as: {Avid following for authors Jennifer & Greg}, or some such. Then you could bump up that there mysterious revealer's "seven answers" by one.

Thanx for the fun, Mr. Kahn dude. ORIGINAL, indeed. Feel free to give us SMORE, any olde time.

Masked & Anonymo1U [s]

p.s
Runt puzzle:
**gruntz**

M&A

Les S. More 12:58 PM  

Actually, my source, the National Gallery, London, which owns the the Tintoretto version of the painting says, "The god Jupiter wished to immortalise his infant son Hercules, whose mother was the mortal Alcmene, so he held him to the breast of his sleeping wife, the goddess Juno, to drink her milk. However, Juno woke. The milk which spurted upwards formed the Milky Way, while that which fell downwards gave rise to lilies." And, yes, you can read Jupiter as Zeus and Juno as Hera. Not sure about Alcmene. I think she was actually Greek.

ChrisSaintH 1:06 PM  

A quite unpleasant solve.

Les S. More 1:08 PM  

@Mike Duchek. I think they referencing a film format - 35 mm or maybe 6x7. Those were the two that I worked in. There may have been others. It was a long time ago. It was a pretty good misdirect.

Anonymous 1:18 PM  

This one completely stumped me. Does “OM” stand for something? I don’t go to many sporting events; the only chants I can think of are like “Rah! Rah!” or “Swing Batter!” or “Defense!”

Anonymous 1:19 PM  

Fun puzzle, but a sauna is decidedly dry, not steamy!

okanaganer 1:41 PM  

Ouch! I struggled to figure out what the trick actually was, and didn't get it until I fixed an error in RAMSHORN (I had RATSHORN**) and saw TOM HANKS and finally! Oh, it's OM that we're skipping! It's a chant! And NO CHANCE = no chants!? Groan. But that's okay; I want a trick on Thursday and that is a worthy one, I guess.

(** ... I had RATSHORN because I wanted to have THANKS in the answer. However, "thousand thanks" is common in other languages, eg german "tausend Dank"; Italian "mille grazie". But "million"?.. not so much.)

I had to really think about the Abba clue. They had so many song titles with repeated words: Honey Honey, Gimme Gimme Gimme, Money Money Money. But they set the record with I DO.

Anonymous 2:10 PM  

Where is Southside?

ChrisS 2:24 PM  

I had the opposite, when Shofar didn't fit I was at a loss until some crosses got me there. I have neve seen a tiara on top of a palace, I guess I need to be more observant. Rex, reisling is also the grape though over 99% are used in making wine. "Hirer" is an ugly crossword only "word", ams, IGAs, wah in NE corner sucked. Watched the Lulu clip and enjoyed it, but I was disappointed that the singing wasn't atonal because that would be my chance to successfully sing.

Anonymous 2:25 PM  

Alcmene is from the Greek tradition. But so are Jupiter and Juno.
You can read about her in Plautus’s Amphitryon and Ovid’s Metamorphosis.

Brian Tung 2:26 PM  

There are two Greek letters whose English name's middle letter is in SAUNAS, and those are tau and PSI. Unluckily for me, I went through the phi/chi/PSI triple and somehow thought "Oh, those all have H in the middle" and was consequently flummoxed.

Anonymous 2:42 PM  

@JoePop Yes, but in his partially solved puzzle he entered OARA.

Anonymous 2:51 PM  

New here so be nice.
Hiss at was so absurd I got caught up with homerooms. I mean a substitute teacher does start in a Home Room.
As someone who collects and builds 1:12 dollhouse furniture I hated model car. We use many measurements and I figured it would be more generic so I couldn't get away from ruler or other down there SE. Put T in Tom Hanks wrong because of rushing "thanks"
Clues annoyed theme beloved. Anon because I don't want to link accounts.

Drewid83 2:53 PM  

I need 49 Across 'The Beach Boys "God Only Knows" to "Wouldn't It Be Nice" ' explained to me. Because both of those songs are off of the album Pet Sounds. "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is the first track on that album. I don't have it on vinyl, but were I to guess, I'd guess "God Only Knows" would be the first song on Side B, as it's 8 of 13 and a good halfway point, themeatically. In any event, the order the songs are listed in the clue is backwards to album order and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is totally Side A. Even as far as singles go, I very much doubt either song was a B-Side, given how widely known they are. So...?

Anonymous 2:58 PM  

I think you're right, that person meant 'oars' but I have no idea where 'oara' could have come from.

Anonymous 2:58 PM  

Liked a little less than Rex. Didn't think much of the clue for TIARAS. And since when is a JETTA a "compact"? Have pickups and SUV's grown so much they moved the goalposts on such a designation?

DAVinHOP 3:05 PM  

I see by the count (71) there are already enough comments that mine likely have been already mentioned; so I'll glom onto @Gary's.

Yeesh is right. Never got the chance-chants connection until reading Rex. Even then, I thought three stars was way too generous.

ADEPTS?
HISS AT equals Boo (no preposition)? No, I hiss at that.
And I don't equate Ding-dong with ASS, perhaps because when I think of the corrupt buffoons running our country, I add a syllable to the latter.

Can't wait for a gunk-laden (or not) Monday puzzle to try, and maybe fail (tragically) to solve Downs only.

Lastly, today's entire experience was salvaged by the greatest line I've read in the three or so years that I've been following Rex - about eating Milky Way minis this Halloween. That fun fact wasn't taught in my Latin class.

Placeholder 3:08 PM  

Came here to say this

kitshef 3:24 PM  

gah! Tintoretto not Titian. Apologies to anyone who went looking for a Titian.

Anonymous 3:30 PM  

Very funny- the revealer made me laugh out loud when I finally got it having solved the puzzle as themeless. Had to look up RAIMI. Medium-hard for me. Chants and CHANCE sound slightly different in my accent, but identical in my husband’s (I checked!). I particularly liked POMPOMS and PPS will forever make me giggle. TOMHANKS for this great puzzle!

ac 3:34 PM  

how is this only a 3 star puzzle in your estimation? hopefully you'll post my comment - it's flat out amazing 4 levels of theme built into one grid - that's worth celebrating. and the homophonic cherry on the sundae no Chance/Chants along with the clue is hilarious. have a nice day...

Anoa Bob 4:09 PM  

I appreciate the cleverness of the "chants-chance" word play but I always find it a bit off-putting when there are unclued answers in the grid. Today we get seven of them and they are theme entries. None of them, pre-aligning(!?), seem to be related to each other or to any other unifying concept. Unclued grid entries always seem kind of awkward to me.

At least I am familiar with five of the seven unaligned unthemed theme answers but I wasn't sure about SALOME. Looked like some Biblical or opera figure or maybe a greeting in a foreign language. But LANCOME? If Rex or some commenter explained that, I missed it. Checked and saw it's a French perfume and cosmetics company. Ugh. Not many things I know less or care less about.

Here's another possible clue for INAS: "'Barefoot Contessa' hostess Garten and namesakes". Yeah, a POC but at least it's not a partial.

Speaking of the POC (plural of convenience), there's a bumper crop today when IGA, AM, TESSEL, COAST, AXIOM, TIARA, ADEPT, TEL, TENET, and TACO all need help filling their slots. There are even two prealigned themers, POMPOM and HOME ROOM, that depend on a POC to do their jobs. Major side eye to that.

Still trying to figure out what the aligned 2D EGANIA is.

Anonymous 4:10 PM  

35mm was the standard film format for generations of SLR cameras.

Anonymous 4:16 PM  

35 mm refers to the film not the lens.

Anonymous 4:17 PM  

THE A KEY IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE S KEY HE OBVIOUSLY TYPOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND CAN YOU REALLY NOT FIGURE THIS OUT!?

Georgia 4:57 PM  

I was delighted to enter NO CHANTS. Double meaning! But ... wrong.

Anonymous 5:05 PM  

2D Egomania is not a theme answer so removing OM is not meant to leave you with a valid word. I agree with the earlier comment(s) that having OM appear in a non-theme answer is not very elegant.

Anonymous 5:34 PM  

I assume they’re talking about the single.

Anonymous 5:48 PM  

My sentiments exactly

Anonymous 7:25 PM  

Good grief - what part of the brain do you have to call up to read the word "chance" and think I know, of course, it has to be "chants"! Makes sense, right?

Anonymous 8:40 PM  

Yes, good point! I got swayed because of glottal stops being another realization of /t/, but I think you're right. 👍

RooMonster 9:01 PM  

EGANIA is right next to Romania.

Jnlzbth 9:34 PM  

In July 1966, Capitol Records issued the song in the US as the flip side to "Wouldn't It Be Nice." The decision to make it a B-side stemmed primarily from industry concerns that American radio stations would refuse to play a pop single with the word "God" in its title, which was considered highly controversial and unusual for the time.

Jnlzbth 9:39 PM  

Paul McCartney called Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows" the greatest song ever written.

Anonymous 9:43 PM  

I have a 1100 day streak going and this was easily top 5 most difficult in that period. Rex always finds a way to piss me off lol

Anonymous 11:52 PM  

The phonetic shift from no chance to no chants completely escaped me and I am currently staying at an Ashram in India!!

Anonymous 11:46 AM  

I don't pronounce CHANTS and CHANCE the same so this was a total dud for me.

Amy 12:20 PM  

Like most others, I finished without ever getting the theme in 30% more time than usual. Glad Rex found it easy but not fun for the rest of us.

Sana’a is about as far from peaceful as one can get these days (under Houthi control since 2014), but then again, Hanoi was also not peaceful 50 years ago

Anonymous 3:14 PM  

Because he never heard someone to Watch Over Me

Anonymous 6:21 PM  

Rex: Plenty of Rieslings from the Moselle region, so not just the Saar

Anonymous 12:32 PM  

Two days later, nobody cares but… “some supermarkets, *in brief*”… does or has anyone ever called them by their full name? Does anybody even know it? IGA is just what it’s called as far as I know.

Anonymous 7:14 AM  

I love that I can come to the comments and find validation even when Rex enjoys a puzzle I hated!

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