Equine hybrid with striped legs / THU 9-5-24 / Aptly named novelist Charles / Attacked imaginary enemies, in an idiom / Unit equivalent to 16.5 feet / Spanish city on the Costa del Sol

Thursday, September 5, 2024

Constructor: Joe Deeney

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: "These answers look funny..." — theme answers are familiar verb phrases where the first word (the verb) is taken adjectivally and represented visually (by changes in the shape or complexion of the actual boxes): 

Theme answers:
  • [waved] TO THE CAMERA (the boxes have wavy edges) (16A: Tried getting on a Jumbotron, say)
  • [curled] UP WITH A BOOK (the boxes have curly edges) (27A: Enjoyed some cozy reading)
  • [tilted] AT WINDMILLS (the boxes all tilt) (43A: Attacked imaginary enemies, in an idiom)
  • [lined] ONE'S POCKETS (the boxes are lined, like a notebook) (57A: Made money dishonestly)
Word of the Day: ZEDONK (12D: Equine hybrid with striped legs) —
zebroid is the offspring of any cross between a zebra and any other equine to create a hybrid. In most cases, the sire is a zebra stallion. The offspring of a donkey sire and zebra dam, called a donkra, and the offspring of a horse sire and a zebra dam, called a hebra, do exist, but are rare and are usually sterile. Zebroids have been bred since the 19th century. Charles Darwin noted several zebra hybrids in his works. // Zebroid is the term generally used for all zebra hybrids. The different hybrids are generally named using a portmanteau of the sire's name and the dam's name. Generally, no distinction is made as to which zebra species is used. Many times, when zebras are crossbred, they develop some form of dwarfism. Breeding of different branches of the equine family, which does not occur in the wild, generally results in sterile offspring. The combination of sire and dam also affects the offspring phenotype. [...] A cross between a zebra and a donkey is known as a zenkey, zonkey (a term also used for donkeys in TijuanaMexico, painted as zebras for tourists to pose with them in souvenir photos), zebrass, or zedonk. Donkeys are closely related to zebras and both animals belong to the horse family. These zebra–donkey hybrids are very rare. (my emph.) (wikipedia)
• • •

Good concept, so-so execution. Actually, I'm only really balking at the "WAVED" answer, since the adjectival form is "wavy." Those boxes are wavy. "TILTED" and "LINED" are very natural ways to describe the boxes involved in the lower theme answers today. You could argue that "curly" is a better way to describe the boxes involved in UP WITH A BOOK, but "curled" is more than defensible, so no real problem there. It's just WAVED ... I wouldn't say "the boxes are WAVED," I'd say they're wavy. You can definitely have "waved hair," so there's some adjectival evidence there, but even there, if you google "waved hair" you get asked "did you mean 'wavy hair'?" The relative weakness of "WAVED" isn't a deal-breaker, it just ... stands out. Probably better to focus on how *good* the last two themers are, in terms of nailing the execution, than dwell too much on the wonkiness of the first themer. But I'm a dweller. It's what I do. I dwell. I always look at puzzles the way I would look at my own puzzles—ruthlessly. What's the stuff that would bug *me* if I were making this? But I think the "WAVED" answer is good enough, and the overall set is solid. My ear is definitely missing the "GOOD" in "[curled] UP WITH A BOOK"—really wants it to be "WITH A GOOD BOOK." As you can see, it's what predictive search wants as well:


But as you can also see, predictive search acknowledges the existence of curling up with a (mere) book, so as with the whole "WAVED" thing, the answer feels slightly off, but not catastrophically off. It's a very easy gimmick to work out—I like a little more challenge on Thursdays—but as beginner-friendly Thursdays go, this is a pretty good one. Wait. Wait. Go back to the predictive search results. I'm ... what ... what (the hell) is "curled up with an earl"!? I'm gonna look it up now, and it better not be some gross sex thing. Hang on [...] OK LOL it's not gross, but it *is* a sex thing. Is it weird that I feel an urge, bordering on a need, to read this right now, today, this afternoon?:

The Byronic Book Club! So Many Serifs! I want to join....



I thought the fill really held up today. It was at least trying. It didn't just lie there in a puddle of boring 3-4-5s, and it didn't get super-ugly or forced. That ARCCOS section is not exactly pleasing to the eyes: A TAD, a single ROLO, ADHOC crossing ARCCOS (the ugliest trig function I've ever seen in the grid), and then a YOU where a YA should be (in "SEE YOU!"). Throw in the fact that I only dimly dimly barely remembered what SOYUZ was, and that whole section definitely becomes my least favorite, but luckily it stands out by contrast with the rest of the grid, which is lively and fun. Great long Downs ("WHY AM I HERE?!?," ONE-POT MEAL ... a good one-pot meal is definitely a solid reason for me to be here, or there, or anywhere). Love "DOWN, BOY!" (33A: "Easy there, Fido!"). And while you get some crosswordese here and there (EDSEL, ETON), the important thing is that it's here and there, and not everywhere. Overall, the fill stays smooth and nicely varied. After SOYUZ, the only answers I had trouble with were MALAGA (sounded right, but also sounded like the video game GALAGA, so I was suspicious) (40A: Spanish city on the Costa del Sol) and then ZEDONK, which ... I see that you're having fun here with the whole portmanteau thing, but this is a debut For A Reason. Zebra-donkey hybrids are (per wikipedia) "extremely rare," and of all the names for zebra-donkey hybrids, on wikipedia's list, ZEDONK comes last, after "zenkey," "zonkey," and "zebrass"! I demand that, in the name of zebra-donkey name equality, you add "zebrass" to your database right now, constructors. This instant. ZEDONK is an absurdity that no one would tolerate if it didn't have a kind of "bad science fiction name" charm about it.


Not great to have "money" in the clue for "[lined] ONE'S POCKETS" (57A: Made money dishonestly), when you not only have MONEY in the grid, but have it running directly through "[lined] ONE'S POCKETS" (see OLD MONEY, 35D: Like the Rockefellers, Roosevelts and Rothschilds). No other complaints. I had a couple of screw-ups today, one of them minor and forgettable (I AM TOO for I DO TOO) (11D: "Ditto!"), and the other major and hilarious—I put the secretary of commerce THIRD in the U.S. presidential line of succession (14A). Half my brain: "Gee, that high?" Other half: "What the hell are you doing!?"


Explainers:
  • 9D: Horse-drawn carriage (SHAY) — being a veteran solver means knowing your carriage vocabulary. Your shays, your drays, your surreys and landaus and phaetons and carioles and troikas and broughams, etc. 
  • 32A: Aetna alternative (HUMANA) — insurance co. I don't know HUMANA so well, so this one took a few crosses.
  • 41D: National spirit of England (GIN) — so "spirit" in the liquor sense
  • 46D: The long way there? (LIMO) — because LIMOs are ... long. This one also required some crosses.
  • 62A: What Comic Sans is "sans" (SERIF) — Comic Sans is a notorious font. "Sans" means "without" (Fr.). Sans serif is a category of font. A category lacking in ... serifs
  • 39D: Trumpet (TOUT) — it's a verb, not a horn today.
  • 15A: "To" words (ODE) — because many ODEs have titles that begin "To...,” as in "To a Mouse," "To a Louse," or ... here's a nice one: Keats' "To Autumn":
    Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
       Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
    Conspiring with him how to load and bless
       With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
    To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
       And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
          To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
       With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
    And still more, later flowers for the bees,
    Until they think warm days will never cease,
          For summer has o'er-brimm'd their clammy cells.

    Who hath not seen thee oft amid thy store?
       Sometimes whoever seeks abroad may find
    Thee sitting careless on a granary floor,
       Thy hair soft-lifted by the winnowing wind;
    Or on a half-reap'd furrow sound asleep,
       Drows'd with the fume of poppies, while thy hook
          Spares the next swath and all its twined flowers:
    And sometimes like a gleaner thou dost keep
       Steady thy laden head across a brook;
       Or by a cyder-press, with patient look,
          Thou watchest the last oozings hours by hours.

    Where are the songs of spring? Ay, Where are they?
       Think not of them, thou hast thy music too,—
    While barred clouds bloom the soft-dying day,
       And touch the stubble-plains with rosy hue;
    Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn
       Among the river sallows, borne aloft
          Or sinking as the light wind lives or dies;
    And full-grown lambs loud bleat from hilly bourn;
       Hedge-crickets sing; and now with treble soft
       The red-breast whistles from a garden-croft;
          And gathering swallows twitter in the skies. (from poetryfoundation.org)
See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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86 comments:

Son Volt 6:07 AM  

Wonderful idea - I think overall too easy for a Thursday. I appreciate the heads-up on recommending light mode in the app - it did help. TILTING AT WINDMILLS was fantastic - but all the themers hit for me.

Disturbance at the HERON House

Agree with the big guy - fill was hit or miss. STRAW HAT, KEISTERS, WHY AM I HERE are top notch - but a lot of shorter scrabbly stuff that could go either way.

Thanks for the Keats Rex - I’ve always been fond of that one.

Highly enjoyable Thursday morning solve.

Slobberbone

Conrad 6:18 AM  


Thanks for the poetry, @Rex! I like it when a Thursday shows you explicitly where the tricks are. I solved without reading the clues for the "fancy" acrosses and found the overall solve easy. I didn't know ZEDONK (12D), but was able to infer it with a few crosses.

Anonymous 6:45 AM  

I misread the post as “curled up with an EAR“ and was v curious to see how it could possibly be a weird sex thing.

Andy Freude 6:50 AM  

Came for the commentary, stayed for the Keats. As a recently retired academic, I’ve discovered that September in New England is gorgeous, something I hardly noticed when I had all that lesson planning to do. Mellow fruitfulness indeed!

JD 7:04 AM  

Ay, the small nits mourn the waved and curled, from this the reviewer releases his daily scorn.

SouthsideJohnny 7:11 AM  

Struggled with the theme construct - interpreting the symbols into something literate is not my forte, even though in retrospect they look pretty straightforward. Fortunately I noticed that the theme answers were actually “partials” as I was filling them in, so I just went with the flow and waited for OFL to clue me in (no pun intended).

ZEDONK and MALAGA are the obvious outliers today, but we have had much worse. Nice to see KEISTERS representing that particular part of the anatomy for a change of pace. Within the constraints imposed by the gimmick-day requirement on a Thursday, this is about the best that I can hope for.

kitshef 7:16 AM  

Generally OK for me, but the "curled" does not display at all as curls for me. It looks basically like Rex's - like a dashed line. I continue to be resentful that the NYT took away our acrostics and fun and games section and the acrostic archives in order to focus on bells and whistles in the online version of puzzles, but they can't get the bells and whistles to work properly half the time.

Not the constructor's fault - they did their job well.

Also, cranes don't look much like HERONs, but I guess if you live in an area where you don't see one or t'other you might not know that.

Anonymous 7:19 AM  

Look closer at the puzzle. Where the waved, curled, and tilted designs touch the black squares, there is a black outline that is a slightly different shade of black. Have fun never unseeing that :)

Lewis 7:20 AM  

This puzzle was rich with lovely answers. All the theme answers (counting their graphic first words) had zing, then in addition, there were these beauties: ZEDONK, ONE POT MEAL, WHY AM I HERE, OLD MONEY, ENMITY.

The first three are NYT debut answers. The four theme answers (with or without the graphic first word) are debuts as well. The result is a grid shimmering with freshness, answers and clues never seen before.

That’s the difference between “just another puzzle” and one that stands out.

Joe’s last NYT puzzle had a visual element as well, but in the clues. For instance, the clue for HEBREW NATIONAL was the word “national” written in Hebrew, and the clue for CHINESE CHECKERS was “checkers” written in Chinese.

All your themes are playful, Joe, and that’s why I light up when I see your name atop a puzzle. It’s great to see you again after a year’s absence, and please, don’t be a stranger. Thank you for this gem today!

DeeJay 7:30 AM  

My grid lines are ordinary. Solving on Android.

Anonymous 7:47 AM  

As usual, the effects don't appear at all in the Android app, which the NYT seems to ignore completely. I should cancel my subscription in protest.

Bob Mills 7:51 AM  

Got (TILTED)ATWINDMILLS from the crosses, and managed to finish the puzzle without cheating. Needed to run the alphabet to get SERIF, which I had never heard of. I had the same difficulty with his puzzle as with many others, especially on Thursdays...my software doesn't show all the subtleties within the grid, like shaded squares, although the tilted windmills squares did show.

EasyEd 7:53 AM  

Thought this a fun puzzle, got the construction trick with (tilt)ATWINDMILLS, though visually to me the “curled” drawing looked more like an old SuperEight film. Enjoyed getting OLDMONEY from the first O, and finally figuring out the “to” word clue.

Anonymous 8:19 AM  

curls looked to me like holes...or the edges of film.

Bill 8:23 AM  

Surprised Rex liked this as this played as awful solve surrounding a pointless gimmick to me. Just tedious, more thought invested in interpreting graphics. And perhaps just me but the curled looks far more like a strip of film than a curl to these eyes. I just want some fun challenging puzzles!

Anonymous 8:25 AM  

I read waved, curled, etc., as verbs ... And therefore had fewer quibbles.

Anonymous 8:29 AM  

At least nobody can claim they haven’t heard of SPF today.

RooMonster 8:50 AM  

Hey All !
We'll, now we are getting grid tricks. Liked the visuals at WAVED and TILTED, but what in tarhooties are those little circles all over the second Themer? CIRCLE UP WITH A BOOK? BUBBLE UP WITH A BOOK? Tough to reach CURL. And are there LINEs in the last Themer? All I see is a very (very) light greenish tint. I guess if I look at it quickly, I can sort of see light lines there. But they go away the longer I look at it.

Interesting theme idea. I'm sure tough to fill, as you have connected Downs of 10 and 8 letters going through three Themers. May have elicited a WHY AM I doing this? from the constructor.

I found out today the EGRET and HERON have the R in the same spot.

One-letter DNF at MALALA/LiN. Couldn't get the ole brain to alcohol for Spirit, kept thinking "symbol" or "ghost". Silly brain.

Wondering how the manipulated squares fared on other platforms. If you don't have the waves/curls/tilts, how do you solve? That would elicit a WHY AM I HERE.

Happy Thursday.

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

Thanks for the ode. It almost made up for the loooonnnggg rant on waves

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

I thought there were holes in the spaces, so I thought it was “holed up wya book.”

Moxer 9:07 AM  

Excellent puzzle: Once I figured out the “tilt” At windmills, the rest came naturally. However, ZEDONK was an educated guess, which I was glad to discover was a good guess. Thanks very much for the poetry, Rex!

DrBB 9:23 AM  

REALLY not a fan of the cutesy graphic effects, mainly bc it was in order to do that kind of annoying, "Hey gamers, we can do graphic stuff too!" gimcrackery that the NYT dropped the .puz format, which was/is vastly superior in so many ways. But if you're going to have them, shouldn't they at least render correctly? As in CURL UP WITH A BOOK, which I had no trouble filling correctly even though all I see is a dotted line, perforation-style, and nothing curvy about it. Unless I squint really hard and magnify the page on my laptop like 5x and I can see maybe they're made of... tiny circles? Maybe? Other than that annoyance, it was a pretty easy puzzle with just enough resistance to make the Thursday cut for me.

Anonymous 9:31 AM  

The NYT games app didn’t display the embellished cells so I was searching for context. Felt it was an easy Tuesday as I punched in all the crosswordese while searching for the gimmick.

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 9:37 AM  

Just a little thing to mention, regarding the different shades of black in the puzzle gimmick: I went to vote in the local Primary Tuesday, which was a little idiotic to begin with since the only contested race was Register of Deeds [sic]. A post referred to as 'like winning the lottery', since you get a nice salary and 'the girls' do all the work. But I digress from my digression. What I wanted to tell you was that I filled in the circles with the pen they gave me, and the machine spit it out, saying there were unreadable marks. So I went over everything three times and then it accepted everything. I hope. But our election board had apparently not tested whether the black pens they bought wrote in a shade of black that the machines they bought could read easily, the way they set them up. This is Massachusetts. If WE can't get the access to voting right, what hope is there for certain other states this November? I am disturbed.

But in an attempt to say something about the puzzle, let me quote Jane Goodall on Orangutans in BORNEO: "Chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans have been living for hundreds of thousands of years in their forest, living fantastic lives, never overpopulating, never destroying the forest. I would say that they have been in a way more successful than us as far as being in harmony with the environment."

jberg 9:38 AM  

Hi all, just back from a great ten days in Iceland. I'd never been before, but my wife had visited several times about 50 years ago (she was stunned when she realized it had been that long), and had been advocating for it. She was right -- lots of stunning landscapes and natural beauty, but also really nice people with a fascinating history. I'm pretty sure we will go back.

So, the puzzle. Once I figured out what was going on with [WAVE] TO THE CAMERA, the hardest part was figuring out what each gimmick was supposed to be, given the tiny size of the squares in the printed paper. In particular, the [CURLs] just looked like little dots, so I needed to get most of the crosses, and particularly to see that they started with a 2-letter preposition, to see that it was CURL UP. And I couldn't tell for sure that the LINEs were that, and not some more waves (ripples?)

Aside from that, it was pretty easy-- I suppose it had to be --so I'll close with some philosophical musings. First, OLD MONEY (35-D). I get the desire for alliteration's artful aid, but once you throw in the Rothschild's, then the Roosevelts, and particularly the Rockefellers, look a lot more like new money.

Secondly, a UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object; if you see a high-altitude balloon but don't know that it is, then it is, indeed, a UFO--no mistake about it.

I'll be back!

walrus 9:46 AM  

three days in a row of circled/grid gimmickry? *sigh* today’s graphical shenanigans—especially waved and tilted—translated exceptionally poorly to dark mode. fortunately the difficulty was more of a wednesday.

i hope there was debate over using “zedonk” vs “redonk”

jberg 9:48 AM  

I was taken aback by how few comments there are at this point, but then I realized that yesterday I flew West through a 4-hour time change, as a result of which I woke up at 2 AM. I solved the puzzle quite a bit earlier than usual.

@Kitshef, good point about HERONs, I'd thought of that. I guess they and cranes look more like each other than they look like robins.

And didn't we have some hybrid equids a couple of weeks ago? Or was that a different puzzle.

I have a busy day ahead, but I'll try to drop back again after more of you have posted. Meanwhile, I have to see what Rex said.

Anonymous 9:48 AM  

This would've been much easier had my app displayed the themed squares correctly. Kept looking for the theme - of which there obviously was one - throughout the puzzle, thinking there was some esoteric clue I'd missed. Nope, just bad coding from the developers.

Anonymous 9:50 AM  

I loved the puzzle…it was challenging but fun! Also, thank you Rex for the poem! I rarely read poetry anymore, so it was a treat. ❤️

Whatsername 9:52 AM  

Well, this was interesting. I got the wave pretty quickly and the lines, then the windmills. But I could have stared all day at 27A and never figured out that was supposed to be curls. Looks like lace or fringe to me. Some of the trivia was frustrating for me. SOYUZ? Huh? ZEDONK was unfamiliar, and ARCCOS a complete mystery.

RP: Thank you for sharing the beautiful lyrical poetry this morning. One of my favorite passages about Fall is from Tennyson:

“Tears, idle tears, I know not what they mean,

Tears from the depth of some divine despair

Rise in the heart, and gather to the eyes,

In looking on the happy autumn-fields,

And thinking of the days that are no more.”

Those words never fail to stir cherished memories of days spent with my dad during the harvest season. The smell of soil, the sound of crackling corn husks, dust in the air, a ride in the combine, and lunch eaten on a handmade quilt spread on the fallen leaves.

Dr. L 9:52 AM  

I learned the word SHAY in a song we sang in 4th grade chorus:


“Put on your old grey bonnet with the blue ribbon on it,
While I hitch old Dobbin to the shay,
And through the fields of clover,
We’ll drive up to Dover on our golden Wedding day.”

Also if you think ARCCOS is ugly, you should read “Little Miss Polly Nomial”, where Arcsinh is used as a swear word.

https://fundamatics.net/article/little-miss-polynomial/

Sir Hillary 10:16 AM  

I'm guessing those who generally dislike Thursday gimmickry will hate this one, but I thought it was fun. Like some others, [TILTED]ATWINDMILLS was my entry point, and [LINED]ONESPOCKETS was not far behind. I initially had [WAVED]atTHECAMERA and thought maybe there was a Museum of Bad Tea in Boston, home of the eponymous Tea Party. Fixed easily. And for [CURLED]UPWITHABOOK, I agree with the commenter above who noted the design's similarity to Super 8 film; all I saw were punched holes, so I interpreted the answer as [HOLED]UPWITHABOOK, which seemed fine.

"PAYINTO ETON? IDOTOO! But I'm OLDMONEY, arriving by LIMO with pink GIN in hand." ONEPOTMEAL kid frets, "WHYAMIHERE?"

Lucky for all of us that @Rex's Google rabbit hole led him to "Harlem River Blues", a terrific song from a wonderful album. RIP JTE.

Gary Jugert 10:20 AM  

Nuestro primer día de recolección de basura en Nuevo México fue un éxito.

I didn't see the note about dark mode, but obviously I didn't need the visual aid to solve the puzzle. Looked like white boxes surrounding partial phrases. 🦖 says the fill held up, but my o' my this felt like a gunky little adventure to me.

❤️ ZEDONK.

Propers: 5
Places: 3
Products: 6
Partials: 11 (gasp)
Foreignisms: 4
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 29 of 74 (39%) (sigh)

Funnyisms: 4 🙂

Tee-Hee: [Fannies.]

Uniclues:

1 AI powered clay.
2 Changes out the Farrah Fawcett poster.
3 Result of getting together for lunch and complaining about those damn kids these days.
4 What the Beverly Hillbillies used to run to the grocery.
5 Indonesian derrieres.

1 SMART PLAYDOH
2 AMPS UP ART A TAD
3 AD HOC ENMITY
4 STRAW HAT LIMO
5 BORNEO KEISTERS

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Prepared circus sushi. CLOVE CLOWNFISH.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hack mechanic 10:38 AM  

Only themer I didn't like was the curly thing. In the paper the only thing it evoked was a roll of film.
Been to the MOBA, hilarious. In the basement of a seedy cinema next to the men's room. According to one work on display Nelson Muntz was George Bushes code name in the CIA!!

Rich Glauber 10:42 AM  

ZEDONK! should be the call when Victor Wembenyama throws one down in an NBA game. 'Wembenyama drives down the lane...ZEDONK!'

Nancy 10:51 AM  

Well, I finished it.

Got the conceit at (TILTED) AT WINDMILLS because 1) most of the letters were already in anyway and 2) Darned if it didn't look somewhat tilted.)

And WAVED looks wavy. The problem is that I have no idea what a Jumbotron is, or what it has to do with waving at a camera.

But what's with DOTTED UP WITH A BOOK? I mean I know it has to be CURLED, but does they look like curls to you? They're DOTS! I know DOTS when I see them!

If I squint hard enough, I can see the LINES in LINED ONES POCKETS.

One of the weirder puzzles I've ever done. But I did enjoy the early bafflement, if not bewilderment, it thrust upon me. And someone will please explain CURLS to me, yes? Thank you.

I'll read your explanation much later today when I get back from the dentist and my long walk back home through Central Park.

egsforbreakfast 10:55 AM  

I always have a hard time deciding between sativa and indica when I make a ONEPOTMEAL.

It somehow seems incongruous to think of Einstein having a STACHE. But he may have also had a nice KEISTER.

When Victor Wembanyama (French NBA player) gets the ball in the low post, fans expect to see ZEDONK.

Headline: Puzzle editor EATSCROW after cluing HERON as "Crane lookalike."

I can't recall anyone using the shape and/or background of the squares as part of the answers. Seems very clever to me. Thanks, Joe Deeney.

jae 10:55 AM  

Easy. LIU was it for WOEs and my only erasure was misspelling EMNITY.

My problem was that I had no idea what was going on with the theme because the NYT IPad app did not have the odd shaped squares surrounding the theme answers. I finally looked at the newspaper version at the NYT Games website and everything was explained…so, cute and clever with some fine long downs, liked it.

Georgia 11:04 AM  

Clever! Nice to see there are things new under the sun.

Anonymous 11:15 AM  

Hi Anon!
There is a settings button for how certain functions appear while solving. Choose 'Enable Overlays' and you will see the waves and dashes.
Personally, I keep overlays off ever since that god-awful Olympic colors puzzle a few weeks ago.
Cheers!
A fellow Android user

jb129 11:21 AM  

Well, that was FUN. I'm surprised that I got it so quickly. Didn't know ARCCOS but it worked itself out & everything else happened pretty fast after that.
A clever theme Joe & I enjoyed it a lot. Thank you
(& JF & NYT for not giving us another rebus (Thursday).

Georgia 11:25 AM  

My NYT App did .....?

stombs 11:27 AM  

I couldn't see the curls or lines 'til I selected the Print option. As it turns out, the borders look like an (old fashioned) coiled phone cord stretched out.

egsforbreakfast 11:30 AM  

Sorry about my Victor Wembanyama repeat below. It was submitted before your post appeared.

Anonymous 11:43 AM  

The clue for 22A is technically incorrect. The Arc cosine function is the reciprocal of the cosine function, not its inverse function

Anonymous 11:47 AM  

Nvm about arccos not being inverse

sharonak 11:53 AM  

REX< WHAAT? Not adjective, past tense of verbs. Agree the boxes look more wavy than waved but comeon, it works.. Actually the one I had trouble with doing the puzzle, and still do, is curled. The boxes do not remotely look curled to me. I kept thinking they were film strips with sprocket holes.

mathgent 11:54 AM  

NYT would have needed to do some special art to make the squares curl up. Regular type didn't work. I liked the other three themers very much. Not much of a crossword otherwise. And it has 22 threes, many of them ugly.

Newboy 12:01 PM  

I enjoyed this one too, a bit more than OFL. That’s not a rarity on the order of the ZEDONK of course. Good job Joe🎯

Jim 12:01 PM  

This was trouble for me, considering I didn't get the phrases/idioms (I had never once heard "Tilted at windmills", though perhaps I should have). Coupled with struggling on a few clues, this took quite a bit of time (and the load of NYT blog comments saying how easy it was certainly didn't make me feel better..!).

M and A 12:09 PM  

Kinda kool how the solvers are given a degree of personal license to complete the theme phrases.
M&A went with:
* GOT SULTRY TO THE CAMERA.
* PERFORATED/SPLATZED UP WITH A BOOK. {Those were curls? 16-A had better curls, IM&AO.]
* TILTED AT WINDMILLS.
* SHADILY FILLED ONES POCKETS.

Sooo... got one of em right, anyhoo.
Liked the puztheme a lot, btw. Different.

staff weeject pick: LIU. A new neat (especially with Cixin) no-know name.

some faves: INBACK. WHYAMIHERE. KEISTERS. EYES clue.
STACHE? har.

Thanx, Mr. Deeney dude. Nice job.

Masked & Anonymo5Us


**gruntz**

old timer 12:18 PM  

My problem is the curls aren't curly. Dash-y maybe. Plus the lines at 57A are no different than any other lines in the grid. At least, on my dead tree edition of the Times. Clever concept, though.

Has anyone ever had any use for an ARCCOS? My very distant memory of trig pretty much only made use of arctans.

Anonymous 12:41 PM  

I had to solve another silly Thursday puzzle to discover where Einstein hid his STACHE so no one would swipe his ONE POT MEAL. What a genius!
I hide mine in a PLAYDOH can under a STRAW HAT IN BACK of my EDSEL LIMO.

jazzmanchgo 12:44 PM  

Sorry, but SEE YOU does not mean "Peace," even in a vernacular sense. Words that might make sense here would include SHALOM or SALAAM. SEE YOU is just ridiculous.

Anonymous 12:45 PM  

FWIW, my version of the Android app does have the grid art. v5.22.0.

cbking 12:49 PM  

Anyone having problems with the crossword not saving settings? I have to reset every day. This just started happening a few days ago.

Old Salt 1:06 PM  

All Deeney had to do was change 10A from BIZ to BIG (surely not a BIG deal to clue) and 12D would have become GEDONK, which is a perfectly cromulent (though with a variant spelling – the usual spelling is gedunk) word to anyone in the Navy. For you civilians: it has a lot of meanings, including soft-serve ice cream, snacks from the ship’s store, and anything easy to achieve. In general, it refers to something of trifling value. Thus, the National Defense Service award, which was given to anyone who wore a uniform and had a pulse during the Vietnam Era, is commonly called a Gedunk Medal.

Paper solver 1:07 PM  

I don't see no stinkin' curls. It looks like the edge of a kitchen knife to me. Thank I'll serrate up with a good book tonight.

Eniale 1:25 PM  

Way easier for me than the usual Thursday - except for that NE little section when I couldn't get IamTOO out of my mind, and thanks @Rex for all that info about the ZEDONK.

I've been wanting to say for years (but am always too late in the day) to say how much I always agree with @Nancy's comments and love her wit. And what would we do without her wall?

burtonkd 1:26 PM  

Ditto for IamTOO.
@kitshef, I put in a stork bc they look more like cranes than the other 5 letter long-legged egret and heron.
Pretty easy and fun once you get the conceit. After Wednesday rebus, we needed to up the gimmickry ante.

Anonymous 1:39 PM  

another vote for the curls looking like film

Anonymous 2:34 PM  

SEEYOU does not mean peace but peace does mean SEEYOU.

Anonymous 2:38 PM  

I felt so smart dropping in Okapis for the striped leg critters. Never heard of Zedonks. If you don't know Okapis google them.

Diane Joan 2:51 PM  

The NYT app had the embellishments under “Play” but the NYT GAMES app is different and did not have them. This is a vexing problem for those of us that use the latter.

Anonymous 3:03 PM  

@kitshef 7:16 – To use Rex’s alternate for 11D, with respect to your comment about the missing acrostics, I am too! Resentful, that is, missing doing the acrostics in the app where the letters you put in the solve spaces would pop up into the grid, and vice versa if you figured out a word string in the grid.

@Rex – Thank you for the lovely Keats ode, new to me. Ever since it became September I’ve been hoping that in southern Arizona autumn would show up really early and the drat gnats would disappear, and therefore quit biting me. So I laughed at the line “Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn,” and repeated it twice out loud, hoping soon they’d get to that mourning!

I solve the NYT crossword mostly in its app so the trick was probably more clearly seen than in the print version, though I did lift my glasses to peer at the rim surrounding 27A. Even so, I thought “Christmas lights!” (um, very eager for summer to be over here) before getting BOOK and then CURLED UP WITH A. (Agree that if you’re “curled up” cozily it’s got to be a good book.) After that it was great fun filling in the rest of the themers and most of the fill (exceptions: I’m lookin’ at you, STACHE, ARCCOS, and ETON even though crosses or a guess rescued me).

One of the best Thursdays in a while, thank you, Joe!

okanaganer 3:27 PM  

When I see the "This puzzle uses features which are not supported" warning, I just take a screen shot of the web page grid and put it on my other monitor. Unfortunately, this does me no good if I forget to look at it. I had the entire puzzle solved and thought: (mugged) TO THE CAMERA? (stayed) UP WITH A BOOK? Then when I remembered to look at the screen shot I still didn't get it... I thought maybe all those little circles were rivets... ie "stays"? Even when I went back to the web page and zoomed way in, they didn't really look like curls.

Typeover: IT IS SO before IT ISN'T. "Contrary" works both ways, and my version merits the exclamation mark, like IT IS NOT! would.

Beezer 3:29 PM  

I have not, but it might depend on many things. I do the puzzle on iPad with NYT app. The only time I’ve had problems is when I have failed to notice the app needs to be updated.

Anonymous 3:30 PM  

Agreed. "Peace, out!" would have worked better.

Beezer 3:33 PM  

What a wonderful trip! I’m sure it is stunning, but I always love to hear about “nice people.” It’s not like I’ve encountered many “mean people” abroad, but sometimes you can feel a more inclusive vibe. My husband and I need to put Iceland on our “list.”

Aelurus 3:40 PM  

@kitshef 7:16 – To use Rex’s alternate for 11D, with respect to your comment about the missing acrostics, I am too! Resentful, that is, missing doing the acrostics in the app where the letters you put in the solve spaces would pop up into the grid, and vice versa if you figured out a word string in the grid.

@Rex – Thank you for the lovely Keats ode, new to me. Ever since it became September I’ve been hoping that in southern Arizona autumn would show up really early and the drat gnats would disappear, and therefore quit biting me. So I laughed at the line “Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn,” and repeated it twice out loud, hoping soon they’d get to that mourning!

I solve the NYT crossword mostly in its app so the trick was probably more clearly seen than in the print version, though I did lift my glasses to peer at the rim surrounding 27A. Even so, I thought “Christmas lights!” (um, very eager for summer to be over here) before getting BOOK and then CURLED UP WITH A. (Agree that if you’re “curled up” cozily it’s got to be a good book.) After that it was great fun filling in the rest of the themers and most of the fill (exceptions: I’m lookin’ at you, STACHE, ARCCOS, and ETON even though crosses or a guess rescued me).

One of the best Thursdays in a while, thank you, Joe!

Just noticed that the software for comments is changed and I hope now it recognizes me as signed in. If this is a duplicate, sorry!

Beezer 3:48 PM  

Late in the game today. I worked the puzzle fairly early (Eastern Time) but got swept away with “stuff” after that. I liked the puzzle a lot AFTER I first looked at it and got a very faint sense of “vertigo.” Okay…I said faint, and it went away. I will say that I got messed up ATAD on the last themer because I wanted PICKPOCKETS to be involved, and I thought of the lines as “stripes.” Interestingly…no one else (I apologize if I missed it) mentioned pickPOCKETS.

My only other thing is to say…maybe it is because I can swipe on iPad to make things look bigger, but to me, the “curls” looked like a line of someone practicing cursive “e’s” on the bottom..with top part looking like upside-down cursive ”e’s” so the “curl” wasn’t hard to figure. Listen. Given MY current eyesight (until I get damned cataracts off) I can only imagine how it would look in print OR on a laptop (if you can’t magnify).

JC66 4:36 PM  

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GILL I. 4:51 PM  

Que fun....And while @Rex has this urge to read "Curled Up with an EARL," I , for some strange reason, want to sing "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star."....

You can put little squiggle things on my Thursday any old time...especially when you have me peering closely at a wave, a curl a little tilting and a shady lined pocket.....

Where to begin....I completely forgot what a Jumbotron is. I had TOTHE penned in and wondered if we were going to deal with misspellings. Tooth? Teeth? Twinkle, twinkle? OH, of course, it's that giant tv thing hanging up at sports venues spotting you so yo can wave to your mom. TO THE CAMERA it is....First delight.

I had trouble with that curled picture. I wanted curly Q's ut how to put those in.....OK...UP WITH A BOOK, you are. The WINDMILLS and POCKETS slid in like a well oiled ZEDONK.

Only a couple of trouble spots. Never heard of ARCCOS because I do't even know what an inverse trig is. Then I do't know what's equivalent to 16.5 feet. ROD? Why did you clue ROD that way and make me sad. The rest played easy and fun.....I'm satisfied.

Oye, Gerardo (AKA Gary J). Enhorabuena...Llegaste al Mexico Nuevo y sacaste la basura....Ahora tienes tiempo para comer chile verde con queso hamburguesa....Buen provecho!

Anonymous 5:03 PM  

Rex missed an opportunity for a song to cement Malaga- La Malagueña sung by Gaby Moreno on Live From Here has something like 1.5 million views and is fabulous performance.

Anonymous 5:14 PM  

I’m solving on NYT GAMES and I could see all the different outlines.

Rich Glauber 5:54 PM  

Great minds think alike, huh? ZEDONK! hahaha

Dave Saltzman 6:03 PM  

I liked the puzzle, except for ARCCOS.

I don't know why everyone is assuming the theme answers are past participles. I read them as...
WAVESTOTHECAMERA
TILTSATWINDMILLS
LINESONESPOCKETS

However, the blank grid for 27A resembled movie film or or a strip of matzoh, IMHO.

Tom T 6:22 PM  

Big hand up for "holed" UP WITH A BOOK. Those are tiny holes, not curls. And although they do look like 8mm film, notice that the first and last squares have the little holes vertically as well as horizontally, which disqualifies the film possibility. "Curl up with a good book" is certainly in the language, but in this case we have "holed up."

Anonymous 6:33 PM  

Nope, it's clearly a curled, continuous ribbon. Try zooming in. It's clear as day. No holes in there at all. Curled up with a book is exactly right.

Nancy 6:51 PM  

When you say something as lovely and as much appreciated as this, @Eniale, there is no such thing as "too late in the day". :)

RooMonster 9:59 PM  

Dang, comment lost in the ether again.

Roo *Poof!* Guy

Charles 10:54 PM  

I liked it, was a fun solve.

Anonymous 10:27 AM  

Was recently in Rome, visited the Keats/Shelley house at the base of the Spanish Steps, uncrowded and worthwhile.

Anonymous 11:05 AM  

Yeah that’ll show ‘em

Anonymous 3:11 PM  

Hi all.

It has been 1 day since our last rapper clue.

Today's puzzle had 3 answers that should have had rapper clues:

BIZ
ROD
SIR

MOET, PEN and HERON could've also had rap-themed clues.

ALOE doesn't count; Aloe Blacc isn't a rapper.

Till tomorrow.

Anonymous 2:52 PM  

Waved is fine. The boxes are indeed wavy but could so be called “waved” just as the curly boxes can be called “curled”.

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