One-named poet from the 13th century / SAT 8-17-24 / Randall's eldest daughter on "This Is Us" / Toaster's opening / The "1" in 8-8-1, e.g. / Potatoes, in Indian cuisine / Reason one might read a "Speed Hump" sign and laugh / So-called "king of the Egyptian gods" / In Buffalo, it's a faux pas to order this with Buffalo wings / Something that's good to do a 180 on? / Low-cost lager from Anheuser-Busch, familiarly
Saturday, August 17, 2024
Constructor: Brandon Koppy
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (one hard section, the rest easy)
Word of the Day: NATTY ICE (36D: Low-cost lager from Anheuser-Busch, familiarly) —
Natural Light is an economy brand 4.2% ABV reduced-calorie pale lager introduced in 1977. The brand was originally called Anheuser-Busch Natural Light. In 2008 The Wall Street Journal listed it as the fifth largest selling beer in the U.S. Natural Ice is an economy brand 5.9% ABV ice beer, introduced in 1995. Nearly two decades after the introduction of Natural Ice a malt liquor named Natty Daddy (8% and 5.9% ABV) was added to the market in 2012. It competes directly with the MillerCoors brand Keystone Light, Milwaukee's Best Light, Southpaw Light while Natural Ice competes directly with Keystone Ice/V9, Milwaukee's Best Ice and Icehouse and Natty Daddy competes against Keylightful, Keystone Lime and Icehouse Edge. Anheuser Busch continues to add to the Natural Light profile releasing Naturdays in 2019. Currently there are three flavors, original strawberry lemonade, pineapple lemonade and red, white and blueberry. (wikipedia)
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OMAHA
SYRUP
YA HEAR (ick!!!) [that "ick" was for the *correct* answer; more on that later]
JAMBOREES
LUNCH
Off to the side there's an "Ohio!" (reminding me to address the slur on that state's piety at 10D: Like Medina, Saudi Arabia, vis-à-vis Medina, Ohio) ("Hey, you don't know that, how dare you!" I said quietly to myself) (my wife and daughter are still, like normal people, asleep at 4:30am as I write this). Then down below I've written "PRINCE 🎵" to remind me to put this on the blog:
[20A: Reason one might read a "Speed Hump" sign and laugh]
But back to the list: I'm not sure I actually wrote in LUNCH, but I definitely wrote in all the others. Yes, I thought the brand of frozen french fries were "Born in OMAHA" (I had the ---AH- and my brain sent out a big OMAHA signal; pattern (mis-)recognition!) (19A: Grown in ___ (brand of frozen French fries) (IDAHO)). Yes, I thought forsythia might be a SYRUP (again, pattern (mis-)recognition—I had S-RU-) (5A: Forsythia, for one) (SHRUB). And then "YA HEAR!?" wow, if only that had been right. "YA HEAR!?" is an actual complete expression. It's even made two appearances in the NYTXW before. Whereas "YA FEEL!?" (debuting today, no surprise there) really really (to my ear) needs a "ME" after it in order to make any sense. I have heard "YA FEEL ME!?" many many many times over the decades, mainly when rappers have tried to explain themselves in one way or another. The "ME"-less version ... that got by me. Consequence of getting old, I guess. Grimacingly painful to write that one in the grid. I assume it's perfectly valid, in some contexts, but it still felt oof. Which is too bad, because this grid is really quite lovely and largely oof-free. JAMBOREES for CAMPOREES will surprise no one, as the Boy Scouts have a National Jamboree every year. CAMPOREES is one of the stupider portmanteaus (-eaux?) I've ever encountered, but I *have* encountered it before, so that change wasn't too hard. Which brings us to LUNCH, which ... well, again, I had letters in place (-CH), which triggered the pattern-recognition part of my brain, which (again!) sent up the wrong answer. "Wait, you can't order wings with LUNCH? You can only eat them ... as a standalone dish? Or a snack? I knew Buffalo was its own self-contained island of climatic and cultural weirdness, but that's absurd" (46D: In Buffalo, it's a faux pas to order this with Buffalo wings). But no, not LUNCH. RANCH. I love the idea that some burly Bills fan snarfing wings is gonna use a word like "faux pas" with orange Buffalo sauce dripping off his lips and fingers. "RANCH? Oh dear, no. It's simply not done," he splurted.
So, five out-and-out missteps. And yet this puzzle played pretty easy overall. Easy and delightful. The first answer that really made me perk up was DIRTY MIND, and then came the center stack, which is a real piece of work (no, I mean that unironically—I loved it). My only complaint is that it was way too easy to get through. I no-looked STAIRMASTER from pattern recognition alone (ST--RMA----). SCREAM QUEEN was a cinch, given what I had in place already—it's the answer that got me to change "YA HEAR!?" to "YA FEEL!?" (still feels bad...). GOES NUCLEAR might've taken a little more effort, but not much. A great stack that unfolded all in a rush, which made it read like the world's most bizarre headline: "STAIRMASTER SCREAM QUEEN GOES NUCLEAR!" (if she was already screaming on the Stairmaster, "Nuclear" must be pretty bad).
Moving on, I also loved the remaining marquee answers down below: MACGYVERS (as a verb!) and "I NEED A HUG" and "NO BACKSIES," the last of which absolutely saved my hide in the SE, which was (for me) the only tough (i.e. properly Saturday) portion of the grid. That SE corner just ground me down (comparatively). I don't drink beer, and I really don't drink convenience store beer, so NATTY ICE, yikes. I had heard of the NATTY part, so that went in OK, but the last three letters, nope. Also nope: STAR as a verb (43A: Mark as important, in a way). And the idea that "8-8-1" was supposed to represent a win-loss record (i.e. 8 wins, 8 losses, 1 TIE). Sports woes continued with my not really knowing or caring that the RAIDERS (of the NFL) had moved to Las Vegas, and thus thinking that "Eleven" must refer to a dice roll (though I did think "shouldn't there be a comma after "Eleven" if it's a dice roll...?") (38D: Eleven in Las Vegas). Eleven players on a side in football, that's what that "Eleven" means. Forgot the river through Glasgow for a bit before the "C" and "Y" finally jogged it loose (CLYDE). The only time I ever think about the LSAT is when crosswords force me, and I forgot the top score was 180, so even that little answer held me up (54D: Something that's good to do a 180 on?). And LOL at the idea that I know any of the character names on This Is Us (network TV character names being among the least appealing of pop culture clues). Would much have preferred the Hardy heroine or the titular Shirley MacLaine role or really any other TESS (esp. in a puzzle already crowded with TV stuff: HBO DRAMAS and SQUID GAME and what not). So I had NATTY- and REESE'S and not a lot else down there in the SE. But then "NO BACKSIES" slid in and saved my backside. Did I NEED A HUG? I did not. I was fine. Moved over to the SW and finished the puzzle off with next-to-no effort, the end.
More:
- 11D: So-called "king of the Egyptian gods" (AMON-RA) — if the puzzle is too (TV) show-y, it's also a bit too Egyptiany, I think. AMON-RA and OSIRIS!? (39D: God slain by his brother, then resurrected by his wife). Who's paying the NYT for this kind of exposure? Big Egyptology, no doubt. Anyway, that "O" in AMON-RA can also be an "E" or a "U" (yes, all valid spellings of this dude), so let's just hope you know your Indian menu words (18A: Potatoes, in Indian cuisine = ALOO)
- 62A: Toaster's opening ("HERE'S...") — as in "HERE'S to my stupid brother, whose marriage to Lisa here is in no way ill-advised! Salud!"
- 25A: Some skintight clothing (SHAPERS) — maybe the hardest answer for me in the top half of the grid. After SPANX and SPEEDO I didn't have anything left in my skintight "S"-word arsenal. I am more familiar with the term "SHAPEWEAR" than I am with SHAPERS, but I assume it's valid.
- 1A: Ireland's second-best-selling musical act after U2 (ENYA) — if I ever saw a bigger gimme at 1-Across on a Saturday, I'm not sure when that was. Four letters + Ireland + music should trigger your ENYA reflex immediately. It's doubtful you'd even attempt a Saturday if that reflex were not already well developed and lightning-fast. I've been listening to her first album a lot lately and I love it, partly because it's just a nice atmospheric thing to have on in the house during Drinks hour (5-6pm, ritually), but also because the cover (front and back) features two adorable babies:
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103 comments:
Fun puzzle, enjoyed the longer answers too. I originally put OSIRIS for AMON-RA and then removed it so I was surprised to see it at the bottom left instead. also put JAMBOREE in first because that's what scouts have
I got jammed up (cammed up?) with JAMBOREE because that is the answer, even though I was pretty sure I wanted COMO at 15A... but my Spanish isn't perfect and JAMBOREES really asserted itself, so I thought... JOMO? Made that whole NE section a bear.
Ooooh, the RAIDERS football team. I too was going for some version of craps slang and had to power guess my way through a Natick since I had no clue on CLYDE. I had CAMP and thought maybe a CAMPOVER was a thing, that slowed me down quite a bit. Not the hardest Saturday but I enjoyed the solve!
I’m at the point where I actually enjoy reading Rex describe how easy the puzzle was while I’m sitting here basically bludgeoned and black and blue from trying to fight my way through it. Seems somewhat humorous in a strange, ironic way.
That NE section was absolutely brutal for example - very difficult for me because there is so much that I had no chance at. COMO above ALOO, then crossing AMONRA and WOODSY (for “rustic”? - welcome to Saturday, rookie). And one location is “HOLIER” than another? What, is one like a religious shrine or something (yes, it is, per my post-solve consultation with Uncle Google).
Oh well, today I felt I was just called up from Triple-A and was overwhelmed facing big-league pitching. On a positive note, it was nice to see Stanley the T (Julia’s husband) make another appearance after his recent Prada nod, and I did drop in BONOBO without much effort.- so at least there was some joy to be had in a blowout loss.
NATTY ICE????? ick, ack and argh
Random thoughts:
• What a gorgeous stack in the middle! Three vivid answers, with STAIRMASTER given a world-class clue, and SCREAM QUEEN and GOES NUCLEAR not only fiery, but NYT answer debuts.
• A lovely never-used before grid design that highlights the stack and is without isolated islands, which on Saturday can be pretty scary.
• I found TIE for [The “1” in 8-8-1, e.g.] inscrutable, but, after solving and seeing the explanation on the blogs, I head-slapped – it makes perfect sense. I love when that happens!
• Plenty of rub to happify my brain, balanced by areas of “Whee!”.
• Answers I loved: NO BACKSIES, NOODLES for “thinking on”, RUMI (because Rumi), TUCCI (because Tucci), WOODSY. (Say those last three answers fast five times!)
• Vibrant, fresh answer set overall that makes the whole puzzle hum. Ten NYT debuts giving us not only never-before-seen answers (including DIRTY MIND and NO BACKSIES).
• In fact, one out of four answers in the grid have been used less than four times in the 80 years of NYT puzzles. Wow!
A powerhouse of a Saturday, a sterling and scintillating creation, IMO, doing what Saturdays should do. Much respect and gratitude for this, Brandon. Thank you!
What a difference a day makes. That SE corner was brutal. It took me several times as long as the rest of the puzzle put together and the rest was a challenging Saturday.
My biggest hang up in the SE was my dislike of baby talk in puzzles. Why would anyone who speaks as plainly as "A deal is a deal" follow it with NOBACKSIES. I think I've heard it used for cutting in line but I wouldn't use it there either. NOBACKouts sounded wooden (NOBACKingout didn't fit) but it was a hill I was going to die on and pretty much did.
I threw in the towel and checked to make sure STAR and REESES were correct to give myself the confidence to put in TESS and work my way up from the bottom.
NATTY is the result of brain damage caused by drinking that swill.
Much better luck with the SB
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@Rex, I loved your takes on Ohio being slighted, on STAIRMASTER SCREAM QUEEN GOES NUCLEAR, on [Toaster’s opening], and on ENYA. There are nuggets from every one of your posts, truly every one, that either open my eyes, or make me laugh or smile, or richly entertain me in some way – which is why you are a never-miss for me.
And I’m sure I’m not alone here. You are a bright spot, a cherished gift. Thank you for your talent and for throwing yourself into this blog!
Easy eh? Not here. Erasures abounding and not helped by clues referencing HBODRAMAS, a Netflix show, or anything ever having to do with "This Is Us".
Also had DAMNS in, out, and in again after my SCREENQUEENS wouldn't work. MACGYVERS is a verb now? I guess. Wanted my Las Vegas eleven to be a NATURAL. And I'm never sure how AMONRA needs to be spelled. SHAPERS a WTF, and here I am living in the woods and the last thing to go in was WOODSY. I mean really.
In short, I'm with @Southside in feeling clobbered by this one, but got 'er done with no looking anything up. As a rule I would rather guess at something and then check in at the blog later to see how I did than consult Dr. Google, but that's just me.
I think I've had similar experiences with you before, BK. But Keep making these tough ones and I'll keep hammering away at them. Thanks for some strenuous fun.
Same here on both counts!
I really enjoyed the puzzle, but I got irredeemably stumped on jamb/camp, amOn, and enough of the SE to not be able to complete it. Oh well.
AMONRA crossing ALOO did me in. At some point in life, I did know ALOO but blanked today, and then I confidently dropped AMeNRA. The rest, however, was fun and delightful.
That center tri-stack is solid - got the gist of the horror movie clue quickly but took me some crosses to get QUEEN. Not as enamored as the big guy with the rest of it. Never had a NATTY but my kids used to drink it in college much like I used to drink Utica Club at that age - cheap and readily accessible.
Underground like a wild potato
Had jamboree first thought but knew it didn’t work. HBO DRAMAS, YOGA MATS, NO BACKSIES are pretty weak longs. The river CLYDE is cool and we get SB darling BONOBO.
Pleasant enough Saturday morning solve. I’m leaning towards Anna Stiga’s Stumper this morning because she rocks a wonderful intersecting spanner.
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I don’t live in Buffalo, but when I hear people order RANCH with their wings, it still makes me cringe. RANCH on wings is like ketchup on a hot dog.
Jalal al-Din Rumi very much has more than one name. He’s commonly referred to by one name, but that’s like called Yeats or Dante “one-named.
Overall, Medium. My primary trouble spot -- and apparently several others' -- was the NE, where I had Hem before HAW at 10A, couldn't remember the English title of the movie at 15A let alone the Spanish, blanked on ALOO at 18A, SHeathS instead of SHAPERS at 25A and jAMbOREE instead of CAMPOREE at 15D. That took a bit of Sergey & Larry to get straightened out.
Southeast was a real bust. I drink beer but never heard or seen Natural Ice, let alone have never heard of its nickname Natty. Knew the Raiders moved to Vegas but I hate football and would never know there were 11 on a team. Clyde river? Not even close to getting that one. Never heard of no backsies. 881? Never in a million years would I guess the one was a tie. Am I clueless or does everyone else know all this stuff?
I, for one, am thoroughly unfamiliar with these CAMPOREES of which you speak.
FH
Lots of very poor clues today.
AMON-RA is also another football clue - Amon-Ra St. Brown is a star wide receiver for the Detroit Lions.
With all the cool roles she has played somehow don’t see Jaime Lee Curtis as SCREAMQUEEN. For me puzzle started easy in NE, got tougher in NW and SE, then cratered in SW with triple personal Natick—CLYDE/NATTYICE/TESS. Getting STAIRMASTER was an aha moment. In retrospect a well-done puzzle, but not an easy one for me.
Sailed through this until the SE. Never heard of Natural Ice, "This is us," Reeses puffs, the river, didn't understand Tie or Raiders. My only real complaint though is having 2 very niche products plus a tv show character in the same section (plus needing to know not just what the LSAT is but what's a good score on it).
The SE defeated me. I'm a big NFL fan but I didn't recognize 8-8-1 as a team's record or "eleven" as a football team. That's on me, but I thought that the puzzle had too much junk (HAW, SHAPERS, ARGH, ACK).
I guessed the junk, but they soured the solving for me. Even the delightful clue for DIRTYMIND didn't compensate.
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LOL at Rex's 1 Across statement! I thought the same thing. ENYA, bam! ENYA face! Har.
Had to Goog a couple times to finish. Whah, Whah, I know. Looked up ALOO, just couldn't see HAW/HOLIER (had _AW, and all the silly brain could see was NAW), plus unsure which vowel to use for AMONRA. Other one was CLYDE. Never have heard of the good ole River CLYDE. That name doesn't even sound Glasgowian.
Had NOBAlKSIES/lES in, no Happy Music. Again, haven't heard either expression (NO BACKSIES seems like it corresponds to something else, maybe NO BACKOUTS fits the clue better), and LES or CES, C'est La Vie.
But, taking as a win to keep the ole Streak going.
Good puz, has @M&A's Jaws of Themelesses in grid. Stair stack with STAIR in it. Fun/interesting clue for SOLVERS.
If you were sharing a living area with Snoop, would he have been a DOGG ROOMER?
Happy Saturday!
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Easy? Oh, please! Has anyone ever uttered the phrase NO BACKSIES? Has anyone ever worn SHAPERS in public? Has the word CAMPOREES ever been said aloud? This puzzle was obviously written for people under the age of 20.
YAFEEL is a first for me. I know YOUFEELME, but have never seen it with YA and without ME. CAMPOREES? No, they're Jamborees. NOBACKSIES? First time ever hearing this. SHAPERS for skintight clothing? Nope, that's made up. GOESBERSERK is the proper expression; never heard of Goes Nuclear. Go nuclear, yes. Goes nuclear? Nope. HERES? Just gonna throw random words in that have no relation to the clues? Um, okay. LOL
I knew something was amiss in the Northeast, but had no idea the rock solid jAMbOREE was to blame. I was as sure of that answer as almost any in the grid. jOMO was as likely as anything else to this English speaker, but SHAbERS was an obvious problem. I eventually had to look up the movie title, and the C triggered a vague recollection of CAMPOREE, so I made that correction and still no happy music. So then I had to look up the Indian potato dish and realized the AMeN-AMON paradox had gotten me.
Like others, I was convinced the Vegas 11 was dice-related, had the RAI and wrote in RAIlcar, thinking I remembered that was a craps term. But no, it’s boxcars, and that’s for a 12, not an 11.
I liked this puzzle so much more than yesterday. Same solve time, same struggle with the proper nouns, but this one was filled with a sense of humor.
❤️ DOG GROOMER, STAIRMASTER, SCREAM QUEEN, GOES NUCLEAR, [You! All of you!], [Stretcher bearers], and MACGYVERS.
😫 HAW, SEAM, GAD, EDDIES, HOLIER (c'mon, Ohio, get thee to a nunnery), and AMON RA.
By the way, did you know the 1925 Rolls Royce Phantom had round doors? Why don't they do stuff like that anymore?
Propers: 8
Places: 1
Products: 7
Partials: 1 (wow)
Foreignisms: 6
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 23 of 68 (34%)
Funnyisms: 16 🤣 + (off the hook)
Tee-Hee: (x3)
-DIRTY MIND. Not to be a wet blanket during one of the great tee-hee-isms lately, but the signs say "Speed Bump," not Hump, right? (Okay, just lost half an hour of my life reading up on humps and bumps and they're different things and they both exist. Wow. This is no longer a DIRTY MIND scenario, but a, "Hey, did you know..." situation my passengers are going to hate. So. HAW. Never mind.)
-Why SHAPERS for [Skin tight clothing] when SPEEDOS has the same number of letters but is way more funny?
-On a more traditional Tee-Hee note: DAMN is right in the bullseye and I dropped it in uncrossed with the confidence of one who's been clutching his pearls at the NYTXW for years now.
Uniclues:
1 One finding potatoes pulchritudinous.
2 What one does while running away from a great first punch.
3 Great apes' gray matter.
4 Dead poet gives driver a one star review.
5 Beer on Sundays.
6 Archeologists.
1 IDAHO DIRTY MIND
2 ROAR "NO BACKSIES!"
3 BONOBO NOODLES
4 RUMI DAMNS UBER
5 HOLIER NATTY ICE
6 AMON RA RAIDERS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Assume they're in this relationship for the hugs. MISREAD PYTHONS.
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Cool puzzle! Not much easy, but not much too difficult. Only writeover HOTTER for HOLIER. Creative clues and answers. Definitely a keeper, thanks and salute to Brandon
As a Buffalo native, have seen RANCH dressing for wings, but ithe use of same labels one as a noob or a sissy. Have seen (at a cookout) the use of Grey Poupon!
First time I can recall the Saturday LAT puzzle took longer than the NYT
Holy cow -- I struggled and suffered everywhere! I finished only with the help of two "checks", not "cheats", exactly -- and I'll explain the difference in a minute.
First the side of the puzzle I got completely on my own, though not without a Herculean struggle. The combination of EDDIES at 1D and PONDERS (for "thinks (on)" gave me a DN to begin the "cleaning up lots of toys" answer and an SR to begin the "coal miner's discovery" answer. Either EDDIES or PONDERS was Very Wrong and I had no idea which. I also had EEL instead of ELM for the "slippery" thing. If I had just known ENYA -- but of course I didn't. Not until DOG GROOMER started to fill in did I change PONDERS to NOODLES. (PONDERS is a far more apt answer, btw.)
Now for "checking" vs. "cheating" [TM]:
I didn't Google the beer directly. I had what looked like it might be NATTY something-or-other, so I typed "beer: NATTY" into Google and both NATTY ICE and NATTY BOH came up. I preferred the letters in NATTY ICE.
I didn't Google what was the river through Glasgow. I fed CLYDE into Google just to make absolutely sure it's a river in Scotland and it is.
Why are RAIDERS "eleven in Las Vegas"? I thought "eleven" was either a very lucky or a very UNlucky throw of the dice -- I can never remember which.
What on earth is a CAMPOREE?
I struggled not only with the plethora of pop culture film and TV clues -- many too many for my taste! -- but I also struggled with some of the very clever clues like DOG GROOMER and STAIRMASTER. However, two trick clues came to me in a nanosecond. One was DOOR and the other was DIRTY MIND -- which I got with no crosses!!! (Maybe that's because I have one?)
Too much suffering for me to have really enjoyed this puzzle but it certainly challenged me and kept me completely absorbed. It was very, very Saturday.
Slightly faster than yesterday. Easy/medium Saturday. Didn’t understand the clues/answers for TIE or RAIDERS but dropped in the I and got the happy music. YA FEEL is a bad answer. I never love YA DIG, YA HEAR, etc., but YA FEEL just doesn’t sound in-the-language. YOU FEEL ME or just FEEL ME, sure.
I’m sorry this is easy medium for Rex. Not for this guy. Impossible here. Rex is only an hour south of me but light years away in puzzle time.
Big missed opportunity for a cross-clue – as someone else noted, Amon Ra St. Brown is an NFL star, AND he has a brother named Osiris.
(Bonus fun, they have a third brother, also an NFL player, named Equanimeous. It’s a great family of names)
Scouts have a Camporee. Two a year.
An ace an be 11 as well in vegas. BACKoutS remained a woe for me
Found it tough overall and the NE brutal.
Best part was 27D. I had CGYV all in a row and knew that couldn't be right even though all of my crossing answers had to be. MACGYVERS was so fun to finally realize. Really liked this puzzle.
It was doable until I got to the SW. The whole corner was a giant Natick. I have been in Glasgow so I did know CLYDE and got ACRE but nothing else. Why is the the 1 in 8-8-1 TIE?
I never heard of NO BACKSIES and I did not parse the meanings of 11 or 180 in the clues. I thoght REESES only made Pieces and never watched This is Us. All in all an easy DNF.
Easy, from ENYA x EDDIES to IDAHO, but then a combination of the puzzle's demands and my mistakes got me into enjoyable Saturday work-out territory. There were plenty of BACKSIES, with many a "Nope that can't be right" followed by erasing and re-trying. Agree with others who found the SE tough. Satisfying to finally get it all!
Do-overs: an automatic Eel before ELM (loved that one), HBO serieS, SpeedoS, MAKES...[something] before MACGYVERS, AMeN RA, NO BACKoutS, STet before STAR, I NEED A sec.
Happy to know: CAMPOREES, CLYDE, ALOO. Happy to have heard of: RUMI, SQUID GAME. No idea: GAD, NATTY ICE.
Crushed by the SE. Don’t know beers, or candies, or tv show characters, and could not parse the very clever NFL and LSAT clues. Still enjoyed the struggle and the many delightful answers, with NO BACKSIES a really fun throwback to grade school.
it seemed overly easy with lots of pop culture for a saturday. i didn’t need “war” _and_ “goes nuclear”, especially when “ear” is a drop-in replacement, and i would have appreciated a whacky clue for the improbable “yam eel” over the tin-eared “yafeel” (especially with the misdirection on “elm”). not using snoop for “dogg roomer” is another missed opportunity.
I don't eat breakfast cereal, and my youngest child is 47--so I never go down the cereal aisle in the supermarket, and continue to be astounded at the takeover of breakfast by snack foods. I know there are Oreo circles, but only through puzzles. So the idea of REESES puffs is not only repugnant but astounding. I wanted some kind of cheese puffs, but the Es came out in the wrong squares, completely messing up that whole section; plus I had no idea what eleven was in Las Vegas; some kind of craps thing? Or is it the name of a casino?
My problems continued with SCREAM QUEEN. First of all, I had Align before AGREE; and then I decided it must be a sexuality/gender thing, like StREAM QUEEr. (I don't know anything about those actresses, so no offense intended). I finally figured out STAR, and parsed the clue for TIE correctly (from league standings, right?) Then I was done, except -- there actually is a Busch ICE, but that couldn't be right. I took a guess at NATTY, checked it on the Internet, and I was home at last.
I should have got SOLVERS earlier, but I didn't. And I needed the little tour through the Egyptian religion to replace Hem with HAW. I sorta question that one -- to my ear, HEM could stand alone, but HAW is only part of the pair.
I NEED A HUG was also hard to see, preceded by Im on a call and then I NEED A sec. It was delightful once I got it, though.
My primary school in Scotland divided the pupils into Houses (as in Hogwarts), each named after the three main Scottish rivers - Clyde, Forth, Tay. Glasgowian is not a word. Instead, use Glaswegian.
Hear, hear!
@Gary Jugert. How about "Bonnie's last words?" as a uniclue for INEEDAHUGCLYDE.
Local wildlife officials are wrestling with the question, is SQUIDGAME?
Did you hear about the frustrated English traveler who kept wetting his pants during his trip to India? Every time he asked for ALOO, they just smiled and handed him potatoes.
At least in Medina, OH when you ask for RANCH on your Buffalo Wings they say SHORE.
Really nice, fun puzzle. Thanks, Brandon Koppy.
About 50% slower than my average for Saturday. A large part of the time came from finding my error in the NE. Never heard of SHAbERS but couldn't find any problems with the crosses. This puzzle reminds me to check the crosses of the crosses because jOMO finally stuck out as wrong (even though I don't speak Spanish). First encounter with CAMPOREES.
Favorite answer: DOG GROOMER. Maybe exposing my serious canine bias. Least-favorite clue: As a loyal Detroit Lions fan, disappointed to see AMON-RA clued as it was, when it should have been clued as "Lions receiver," or some variation thereof, for the Lions' star wide receiver, and possessor of the best name in the NFL, Amon-Ra St. Brown. Known locally as "Sun God."
Unlike Rex, I did not find the SE difficult. The only difficulty was in the NE, and was due to two words-that-are-not-words-as-far-as-I-am-concerned: SHAPERS (too my mind it is either SHAPEWEAR, or the brand name SPANX) and CAMPOREES (this word makes me irrationally angry)
Google tells me that “SHAPERS” is indeed a thing, and Merriam Webster tells me that CAMPOREE was first used in 1925, so this is obviously a “me problem.”
But what is clearly a “puzzle problem” is that these two words comprised the *only* resistance the puzzle gave me, which is very un-Saturday.
Love Indian food but ALOO eluded me.
Amunra -> amenra-> amonra (whew)
Jamboree -> camporee (hello every human)
HBO series -> HBO drama
Fun to learn they named a river after my uncle.
I FEEL YA Bob, but actually SHAPERS are more likely worn by women OVER 20…they are the modern day girdle/corset type undergarments.
I don't think anyone says SHAPERS. Shapewear is the acceptable term.
Also, you can make a SyRUp out of forsythia, so you weren't too far off!
SE was the hardest for me as well. STet for STAR tripped me up for a bit. Guessed on CLYDE and TESS (seemed reasonable) and the rest mostly fell into place.
I was a Cub Scout, a Boy Scout, and an Explorer, nine years in all. The Boy Scouts had a national jAmbOREE every few years (never went to one, but I don't think it was annual), and a regional CAMPOREE every year. The latter was a weekend event where all the troops camped in a big field somewhere. So I checked the crosses, saw COMO, and that was OK.
We started having speed humps in my neighborhood 3 or 4 years ago. Whenever there's a new (ato the joke) adult in the car, I make a remark about taking lunch dates to the next level--but I still needed a few crosses to see DIRTY MIND.
NO BACKSIES isn't baby talk; my kids would say it when they were about 10-15, but usually while paying a board game, if someone made a move and then tried to take it back.
Can pumas really not ROAR? I have a vague memory of seeing one do so in a movie or TV show, but maybe that was just a loud snarl.
ARGH! ACK!
NO BACKSIES, NO FORTHSIES, NO SIDESIES.
NO TESSIES, NO NATTYS, NO REESYPUFFYS.
NO
NO
NO!
Believe it or not “Go nuclear” and “Goes nuclear” are the exact same phrase, with the verb (go) conjugated for a different subject (the third person singular, to be precise)! I go nuclear, but she GOES NUCLEAR. Same phrase, both normal, valid, and in the language. (What a ridiculous non-nit…)
Not easy at all for most of the reasons OFL cites, but still a hoot to start Saturday. Then @Lewis sent me further down that yellow brick road with his suggestion of “RUMÍ and TUCCI and WOODSY—oh my!”
All one could ask of a grid and not surprising given Brandon’s constructor’s chops—today he gifts solvers TEN new entries! YA FEEL? He MACGYVERS the language in a very good sense.
You mean the SE.
Probably because I couldn’t finish the SE corner I’m gonna cry foul. Randall’s eldest daughter was Deja (adopted); Tess was the elder of two biological offspring. Truthfully though what did me in was Nattyice. Is that something people actually drink?
The NE is what did me in, too. I wanted either Hem or Haw, but couldn’t commit. I did not know Aloo or Como so I couldn’t get the downs with that big batch of blank space. I googled aloo as my only cheat and it opened it up for me.
Dunno - must be me. The last 2 days were not fun solves for me. I wanted to "throw it against the wall" (I think that's what @Nancy says) often. The only thing I did like today was 31A STAIRMASTER. Oh well ...
Mostly easy except for, of course, the SE corner where NATTY ICE was a WOE and I tried pSAT before LSAT. I also had a little trouble in the NE where, like everyone else, I had jAMbOREE before CAMPOREE a term I never heard when I was a scout in Medina, Ohio.
I also had HBO seriesS before DRAMAS because I didn’t check the crosses.
Plenty of sparkle, liked it a bunch!
On a personal note I want to take issue with the 10d clue. I was born and raised in Medina, Ohio and, trust me, there were a lot of churches in Medina. I didn’t know anyone while I was growing up who was not a church goer and I never missed a Sunday service at St. Paul’s Episcopal (I was an acolyte) until I left for college. So Medina….HOLIER than you might think!
Brutal for an international solver. So much US slang and names that were unknowns.
Nancy, I am so glad you are didn’t give up on the blog in the new format! I must say, it makes replying to an individual poster much more convenient. (As I’m doing right now) Please stick around!
I, too, just assumed the eel was back for its weekly visit…
The RAIDERS are the NFL team in Las Vegas.
To quote nobody, I'd say this was a boss fab gnarly puzzle. Where to begin...ENYA, of course, followed by ARGH, a SAO COMO here and a skip to ALOO there. Come to a pregnant pause, head scratching dilemma and an exasperating sigh. Where to next, and will this kill me....It didn't
Can NOODLES really be thinks on? Did I really get MACGYVERS off the Y in OBGYN? Is it really you DOG GROOMER? Yes, you do clean up lots of toy pups. (Great clue and so much better than Fridays confusion and ughish cluing)....DIRTY MIND....is that really you? It is! and you gave me HOLIER...How about that!
Slowly meander to the middle stacks. Ay dios mio. I was able to get STAIR MASTER thanks to the downs and DAMNS, but what, pray tell does Jamie have in common with Neve? SCREAM something or other. I have never heard nor seen SQUID GAME. It sounds SIC. GOES NUCLEAR has to be right (check and make sure....It was!). Can it be something SQUID? And then I had a scout greeting at some sort of CAMP....Leave that area and call it quits until the morning with some Peet's. AHHH, that's the trick....
So things I've never seen in the wild nor understood as clued:
CAMPOREEN
SCREAM QUEEN
SEAM (coal miner's find????)
NATTY ICE
NO BACKSIES....Never, not once, have I heard that word used in a sentence....
Had trouble with TIE (I had one) and RAIDERS (as clued)...
REESES? I had CHEESE Puffs. Oops.
I Googled NATTY ICE (I had the ICE but wasn't sure about NATTY) and I googled CAMPOREEN ( I had CAMP and wasn't
sure if QUEEN and SQUID were correct) and that was about it...I did check, though, to see if some of my answers were right, so I guess you'd call that cheating as well, but I didn't care because I really enjoyed all the hard work today. Compared with my Friday disaster, this was boss fab gnarly...
@jberg from yesterday....Thank you for the Inspire/AIR explanation. The English language (sigh).....,
Saturdays are not supposed to be easy so I’m always ready for a battle, but not quite the level of ABUSE this one delivered. If Southside Johnny feels like a minor-league player, then I must still be at T-ball practice.
In my own defense … those names! So many of them. I was stuck forever on JAMBOREES, made worse by the Spanish proper name, the Egyptian god proper name, the Indian cuisine and WOE is a speed hump? The lower half of that grizzly bear, of course was the SE, again plagued by the proper name of a river, proper name of a football team, proper name of cereal, familiar name of a beer and WOE is BACKSIES?
All I can say is ARGH and ACK! But I did love the clue for DOG GROOMER.
Very limited time today, celebrating my wife's birth"day" (Day two of an extended celebration--no complaints about that!)
So only one Hidden Diagonal Word (HDW) clue:
Jamie Lee Curtis and Neve Campbell, unnotably and ick-i-ly
Completely overcome by the SE that Rex noted as his one hang-up section. Simply couldn't unravel any of it (once NO BACK outS was incorrect, I was done). Big dnf!
But I suppose I shouldn't have even attempted a Saturday, if Rex says my not knowing ENYA instantly disqualifies me from Saturday solving. lol
Answer: GALS (G in 4D, ARGH)
I leave you, appropriately with that expression: ARGH!
I went in circles with "Tess" and "Deja"
TV shows, movies, products, made up "lingo", which vowel are we going to use in that Egyptian god today?, gosh, all that was missing was oreo and oboe and it would have been a truly horrid puzzle rather than just a horrid one.
Then "ack" went from the vocalise of Cathy's to a general "frustrated cry"? One city being "holier" than another kind of depends on one's POV, doesn't it? Maybe "more sacred" would be better? When I was a Boy Scout we had a "Jamboree," when did that turn into a "Camporee" or did it?; maybe some crossword puzzle word list compiler mis-heard it? Oh yeah, the 3rd grade playground retort too. I needed a hug after that. We now "do" something on a test rather than get a grade? Well, I guess if the kids can tell waiters (that word's always been gender neutral folks) they're going to "do" a cherry pie with a straight face, they can say "whaddya do on that test?".
20A and 62A get the prize for good clues today, maybe they both get a 43A. Pretty poor pickings here.
egs, you've outdone even your high standards with this collection of wit today! Brilliant and hilarious.
Excuse me, but I put ketchup on my hot dogs and if I'm ever totally bored with my life I'm going to travel to Buffalo and order wings with RANCH. ;-)
When I finally gave up and clicked "Reveal incorrect letters" I thought: this is just plain sadistic. So very many answers I have never heard of, topped by CAMPOREES which is just absurd. RUMI, SHAPERS, NATTY ICE, GAD, TESS, REESES Puffs. ACK, I say!
For "Eleven in Vegas" I first wanted OCEAN'S, but starting with RA all I could think of was RAT PACK. Were there eleven of them?
I'm telling you here and now, we have to start watching out for Egypt, and their corrupting influence across America. They have the Times in their back pocket, what with making us know the unknowable, i.e. how to spell his name, what his name actually is at any given time of day. Then, the managed to corrupt the one incorruptible person in the Senate, New Jersey's own Senator Menedez. The man was once an exemplar of moral propriety, a man above reproach, until the Egyptians came. Yes, they came in a door left open by a woman, but they came nonetheless with their kilos of gold, bundles of money, fancy cars and lifts for his shoes. I think it was the lifts that finally turned him, but that's besides the point. If Senator Menedez can be induced to yield to temptation, whom among us can't be.
Woeful NE corner, Clyde a gimme, impenetrable otherwise. For those that did struggle with Clyde, highly recommend the Netflix show "Still Game" about the goings on of Jack & Victor two Glasgow retirees. Absolutely hilarious but do turn on the subtitles
I've absolutely used NO BACKSIES. A lot. And shapers are almost always worn in public by a huge range of ages. Not actually seeing them is the point.
Not sure why all the anger and indignancy about the term camporee. If you were in the scouts you had camporees which were fun weekend camping trips along with a few other troops besides your own. OTOH a jamboree - never went to one thank god - was basically an official scoutinf convention. I suspect jamborees are what non-scouts think of as camping trips.
Agree with YA FEEL. YA HEAR is even a bit of a stretch... that should be YA HEARD?
Aloo Gobi Masala helped with ALOO. SE was brutal for an ex-Brit. Final time 5 minutes faster than my Saturday average ... and I tend to solve for pleasure rather than speed. DIRTY MIND was right in my ballpark ... or cricket pitch thanks to Benny Hill
"Natty" showed up in Connections a few days ago--I think NYT Games has signed a marketing deal with Anheuser-Busch.
@egsforbreakfast 11:17 AM
Brilliant, as always. You're a treasure in my days. {Kinda mad I didn't think of that uniclue.}
are we
A great Saturday outing until the SE as much noted today. This late in the day, I went ahead and googled the Glaswegian River - note that when I look something up, I don’t want to find it on a site that provides crossword answers: they are usually full of pop up ads, and make you click a few times to get to it, plus I learn absolutely nothing about a subject I clearly need to know more about. Google maps to the rescue today. Wikipedia or Reddit are other good options to accidentally learn other things.
CLYDE was the keystone that unlocked that section: which kind of SAT/ Tess instead of Bess or Ness/RAIDERS - didn’t get that as a the football time until figuring out a TIE. No way that 1 was going to be ONE on a Saturday, unless it was a major 180 UEY backsies kind of misdirect.
AMON-RA has showed up as a crossword clue recently, with some amount of grumbling. My Egyptian misspelling was AMAN…
Am I the only one who threw in Spandex early on then had to remove it due to crosses?
Also had eel before ELM, wwi before WAR, and flirted around with changing COMO to jOMO but by then I knew SHAPERS was solid.
Very clever puzzle, really enjoyed it!!
It didn't "turn into" camporee, they are also a type of scouting gathering as even the most cursory research will tell you
But the gall to imply it is the compiler that misheard...
Wow I was in cub scouts, weebelows, and 2 years of BSA and can’t remember ever having heard the word CAMPOREE before. SHRUGS
I’m from Glasgow, so Clyde is a gimme.
I moved to Baltimore 30 years ago, and my uncle drank National Bohemian.
This is called Natty Boh. So that SE corner…
Good thing to "do" a 180 on is a bridge too far.
I knew it but didn't know I knew it!
Can someone please explain DIA as an answer for Lunes?
Ugh. That's the only word I can come up with for this extremely unpleasant puzzle. From off-kilter cluing to unknown proper names to multiple potential Naticks, UGH.
Spanish language. Lunes is 'monday'; DIA is 'day'.
Randall's oldest daughter is DEJA not TESS!! Is the cluer intentionally denigrating adoption? SHAME ON YOU! Or is he just ignorant? SHAME ON YOU.
We need more
DNF. Far too many PPPs to suit me, and WAY too many of those I just flat didn't know. And NOBACKSIES, really? You have to be kidding.
Wordle par.
Not easy at all. Rex is putting us on. It felt good to complete but what a challenge. Especially the SE corner with NATTYICE, RAIDERS, REESES, CLYDE and TESS all being really tough to suss out. A decent Saturday-level challenge.
YA SEAM SIC
A WOODSY DOGGROOMER in IDAHO
GOESNUCLEAR on A BONOBO,
YAFEEL this FORAY
is ABUSE in A way,
to this DAMN DRAMA just say "NO!".
--- CLYDE MACGYVER
HERES another:
NATTY MASTER SHAPER
QUEEN ENYA came to the DOOR
with A SCREAM, more like A ROAR,
"INEED ALOO,
YA SEAM DIRTY too,
do YA MIND if we GO to the SHORE?"
--- TESS TUCCI
Had jAMbOREE before CAMPOREE like just about everyone else.
ACK! Without the river CLYDE that SE corner may have gone nowhere; that was hard. I'd take either of those SCREAMQUEENs.
Wordle par.
YA SEAM SIC
A WOODSY DOGGROOMER in IDAHO
GOESNUCLEAR on A BONOBO,
YAFEEL this FORAY
is ABUSE in A way,
to this DAMN DRAMA just say "NO!".
--- CLYDE MACGYVER
HERES another:
NATTY MASTER SHAPER
QUEEN ENYA came to the DOOR
with A SCREAM, more like A ROAR,
"INEED ALOO,
YA SEAM DIRTY too,
do YA MIND if we GO to the SHORE?"
--- TESS TUCCI
@anon 1:51 - 180 is a grade (score) on the LSAT. 150 is the median. 180 would be really good.
This might be the worst I have done on a SatPuz ever! What in tarhooties is a camporee?!?!?? I was a Cub Scout and never ever heard of one. So, I look it up, and now I know why. I was a Cub Scout in the 50's, and the first Boy Scout camporee was held in 1961. The troop I belonged to merged with another troop, and my mom pulled us out of the Scouts. Several religions have camporees, which predate the Boy Scout one. But I never heard of those either. That's still no excuse for not getting como or thusly shapers.
I know complaints have already been lodged, but unfortunately, boys and girls, Shapers are real.
One last thing, I can't remember ACK being clued without referencing either Cathy or Bill the Cat.
CAMPOREES kills it for me…yuck. Also a ridiculously hard corner totally throws the balance of the puzzle off…no thanks.
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