Habitat for sphagnum moss / SAT 8-24-24 / Drink of boiled grains with purported detoxifying effects / Country singer with the 2012 hit "Wanted" / Pop artist English / Second slide of many a meeting deck / Batman adversary with a stitched burlap mask / Commercial lead-in to bank / Start of a Spanish cheer / Creatures often depicted with green skin

Saturday, August 24, 2024

Constructor: Ryan McCarty

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (except for a single square, which was a total guess)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: RON English (52A: Pop artist ___ English) —
Ron English
 (born June 6, 1959) is an American contemporary artist who explores brand imagery, street art, and advertising. [...] English has produced images on the street, in museums, in movies, books and television. He coined the term POPaganda to describe a mash-up of high and low cultural touchstones, from superhero mythology to totems of art history, populated with his original characters, including MC Supersized, the obese fast-food mascot featured in the movie Super Size Me, and Abraham Obama, the fusion of America's 16th and 44th Presidents. Other characters in English's paintings, billboards, and sculpture include three-eyed rabbits, cowgirls and grinning skulls – visual, with humorous undertones. (wikipedia)
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[21D: Batman adversary with a stitched burlap mask]

So yesterday, NANCHERLA provided an example of a pop culture name that (for me) stood out strongly for being the least familiar thing in the grid. If you don't know it (as I (mostly) didn't), it requires much more attention and effort than anything else in the grid, and thus makes the solving experience go kind of lopsided. But yesterday, all the crosses were fair. I felt like the puzzle was *helping* me to get it, was constructed in a way that made me enjoy (and not resent) learning the name. Cool cool. Now fast-forward to this puzzle, where (again, for me), virtually the same thing happens—the puzzle throws a long pop culture answer at me that I have never heard of in my life—but instead of the crosses being fair ... well, they are mostly fair, but they also include one short pop culture answer that I have never heard of in my life, and that, dear reader, that has made all the difference. And in a bad way, not a Robert Frost way. I worked this puzzle all the way down to ... this:


And then just shrugged. That "country singer" hasn't been much of anything, fame-wise, for a decade. I mean, I don't listen to pop country as a rule anyway, but I have a reasonable familiarity with the bigger names at least. But HUNTER HAYES (24D: Country singer with the 2012 hit "Wanted") ... I just looked up HUNTER HAYES and his albums since this mid-'10s ... if they fell in the forest, I'm not sure anyone heard them. Just crickets. But he seems to have been a thing for the first half of the '10s. Whatever, let's just say, he Missed Me Completely. I ended up being able to infer HUNTER easily enough, and ultimately I inferred the "H" in HAYES because it was obviously the best guess (HAYES being a name that I have at least seen, on presidents and Will and Grace actors and what not). But the director of CODA? No hope. Like the entire career of HUNTER HAYES, Sîan HEDER's name just missed me. My apologies to her: she's accomplished enough, for sure; won an Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay (for CODA). I've just never seen anything she's done. I know a Bill HADER, he's great, but as you can see, different spelling. The Napoleon Dynamite actor guy is a HEDER (Jon HEDER), I probably would've been more confident in that "H" if it had been him. But as is ... oof, that "H." So I've got two proper nouns [check] of less than top-tier fame [check] that cross [check] at an uninferrable letter [debatable]. I did infer the letter. So I guess it's not a true Natick. But I tell you, I had my finger hovered over that "H" key like "come on come on come on please be right big bucks no whammies!" And I was semi-surprised, though mostly just relieved, when the "H" ended up being correct. That crossing made an otherwise decent Saturday puzzle reeeeeeal unpleasant there at the end.


Just like yesterday, the proper noun debacle stood in stark contrast to the rest of my solving experience, as I blew through most of the rest of the grid, no problem. I blew through it a little faster yesterday, true, but that's why Friday is Friday and Saturday is Saturday. Relative to their expected levels of difficulty, F and Sat were equally easy for me. The SW corner today played like a Monday; I doubt I was down there for more than 30 seconds. The NW gave me YUCA, which looks all kinds of wrong—I want there to be two "C"s in there, but YUCCA is a perennial shrub, where YUCA is another name for "Cassava," a root tuber. Ah, well, looks like the confusion is baked into the name itself from way back: "Early reports of the species [yucca] were confused with the cassava (Manihot esculenta). Consequently, Linnaeus mistakenly derived the generic name from the Taíno word for the latter, yuca." But even though that spelling was unfamiliar to me, I still wanted YU(C)CA, so I was prepared for the letters when they came, and the rest of that corner was a cinch (thank you, Crosswordese Ambassador James AGEE for granting me access) (9D: "Let Us Now Praise Famous Men" writer, 1941) [side note: AGEE was hired by TIME, INC. as a reporter, right out of college]. The NW corner (where I started) was also pretty easy, once I got past my initial error: DAR / REPOTS instead of ABU / UNPOTS (I was thinking of DAR es Salaam, the "largest city and financial hub of Tanzania," which is not a capital, last I checked, was not in the "Mideast," alas). The capital of Tanzania, by the way, is DODOMA, which has never appeared in the NYTXW, despite its seemingly favorable letter configuration (short, lots of vowels, alternating vowels and consonants, terminal "A"). Now you're prepared for when DODOMA eventually drops, which it will, some day, trust me. 


That just leaves the SE, easily the toughest of the puzzle's corners. Again, proper nouns come into play, as I had no idea who RON English was. He was apparently on "The Simpsons," but well after I'd stopped watching it. I had the last letter of his name as an "S" because I assumed 37D: Many Grindr users (GAY MEN) was going to be an "S"-ending plural. I also had MBA before MFA (47D: Deg. from Yale's Geffen School), SOFT SPOT before SOFT SIDE (the former being waaaaaay more of a thing than the latter) (49A: Vulnerable part of one's personality), and I didn't really know that BIG AIR was an event. Snowboarding, sure, BIG AIR, uh uh. Still, though, that corner played like an average Saturday corner, in terms of difficulty—took some work, but it was all ultimately gettable. The only thing that was truly harrowing about this puzzle was the HEDER / HAYES "H"-bomb. I defused it, but only barely. Speaking of barely ... BARLEY. Specifically ... BARLEY WATER!? (8D: Drink of boiled grains with purported detoxifying effects). Yeesh, between HUNTER HAYES and BARLEY WATER, it's like this puzzle is trying to be actively unappetizing. Luckily there's a cute FOSTER KITTEN (6D: Candidate for a "forever home") and some TURKEY JERKY and a copy of "Batman" with THE SCARECROW on the cover, so the puzzle was not without its pleasures. In fact, the longer answers (of the non-BARLEY non-country music persuasion) are really solid across the board. Also SHTICKY and "DID I ASK?!"—both winners.


Notes:
  • 5D: Strong, as a bond (AAA) — that's a financial bond rating
  • 20A: Prominent feature of a jacket (TITLE) — that's a book jacket
  • 14A: Actress who voiced Mei Lee's strict mother in Pixar's "Turning Red" (SANDRA OH) — almost none of the words in the clue mean anything to me, but I still got SANDRA OH off the SAN-.
  • 30A: "Pleeeease?" ("CAN'T I?") — look, if you elongate the clue, I'm gonna want to elongate the answer, those are just the rules. This is how I explain that the first thing I wanted to write in here was "CAAN I?" Also, no kid says "CAN'T I?" with a "T," that's absurd. It's "CAN I?" or nothing.
  • 16A: Second slide of many a meeting deck (AGENDA) — no idea what a "meeting deck" is. Is this some kind of cartomancy ritual performed in board rooms? ... Wow, I was pretty close.
  • 35A: Habitat for sphagnum moss (BOG) — is that where they grow the barley for HUNTER HAYES' BARLEY WATER? Sounds like it. [grimace]
See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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86 comments:

Adam12 5:41 AM  

I think a meeting deck refers to a deck of slides in the projector/carousel, old fashioned sense of the word. I believe the term carried over to the modern PowerPoint world.

Roberta 5:55 AM  

Was definitely hoping to see a video of Jane and Michael Banks singing The Perfect Nanny, as evidence that Barley Water is a thing (that they also find unappetizing!)

Andrew Z. 6:19 AM  

I have a feeling that H was the last square for a lot of solvers, myself included.

Son Volt 6:37 AM  

Some odd stuff here and there - but mostly fun and smooth. A little too much trivia for a Saturday - had to back into SANDRA, HUNTER and RON. The pharma ad in 1d is rough.

WINTER Hours

Really liked the main central stack - broken up with only that black square between CANT I and CATTY. ARM IN ARM is sweet but guess I never really knew Batman fought THE SCARECROW. Nice double shout out to pet adoption - @andrew should be happy.

I take delight in the juice of the BARLEY

More of a Friday for me but an enjoyable Saturday morning solve nonetheless. Stella has a highly segmented grid Stumper today if you’re in need of a challenge after this one.

An Appointment with Mr. YEATS

Stuart 6:59 AM  

“Meeting deck” was a gimme. PowerPoint because a deckr of slides

Stuart 7:04 AM  

Oops! I hit PUBLISH by mistake.

What I meant to say is that PowerPoint slides are commonly referred to as a “deck,” and after the title, the second item in the deck is the meeting agenda. That was a gimme.

YUCA is in the NE, not the NW. TURKEY JERKEY was fun to come I’m up with. Like Rex, I also had MBA before MFA, but no matter; it was a fair and enjoyable Saturday.

kitshef 7:17 AM  

Guessed right on HEDER/HAYES cross. Classic Natick. But for me, yesterday's was worse. Guessed right both days, but today took maybe thirty seconds to decide on the 'H', while yesterday took over a minute and ran the alphabet mentally twice before committing to the 'N'.

Otherwise very easy for a Saturday. A ton of names today

BIG AIR is the least interesting Olympic snowboarding discipline. I'd be fine if they were to drop it.

Lewis 7:31 AM  

Some things are clear before you even start a McCarty Saturday. There will be plenty of white in the grid, seas of it. The answer set will have mostly familiar words, but between you and these will be a barrier of clever clues, all fair, and often figured out with pings of delight. The answer set will be immaculate despite the seas of white.

Above all, there will be a profusion of NYT answer debuts – twelve today, twelve! The new answers and clues will make this not just another box to fill, but rather, a brain exciter.

And if you’re like me, you’ll leave the puzzle grateful that you were in the hands of a master constructor.

Highlights for me today:
• SHTICKY. OMG! Word of the day! So fun to see and say!
• A very-rare-in-crosswords 6-letter semordnilap (REWARD).
• All the adjective-noun answers (TURKEY JERKEY, PINKY SWEARS, TARGET DATES, WINTER TIRES, SOFT SIDE, FOSTER KITTEN, BARLEY WATER, GAY MEN, BIG AIR, CD RACKS, SAD DAY). By the way, the first eight are NYT debuts.
• Noticing that the term “abc’s” can be drawn from the letters in BASICS.
• [Strong, as a bond] for AAA, and [They often roll around in the snow] for WINTER TIRES.

Ryan, your puzzles are plunges into quality and filled with treasures. Thank you for your talent, and for another splendid outing today!

DeeJay 7:41 AM  

The deck isn't the slides. It is the *printed version* of the slide presentation given to meeting attendees, for their personal perusal and as a vehicle for notes.

Anonymous 7:53 AM  

Reading your write up felt like I was reliving my own solving experience. From my yucca YUCA pondering, MBA for MFA, hovering over the H to finish, and much more. Somehow, the idea that my brainwaves were traversing the same paths as yours while solving feels like a bigger accomplishment than actually solving this grid.

SouthsideJohnny 7:59 AM  

My only familiarity with Batman is from the tv series about a half century ago (and I may have watched 15 mins of one of the movies on cable at some point), and I don’t remember there being a SCARECROW bad guy. The only thing I could visualize was the character from the Wizard of Oz.

I must have my feet firmly planted on the ground as JETES and BIG AIR were both new to me today.

I’ll count even a successful four-letter PPP grab as a success and I did drop in KWAI without giving it a second thought (reminded me of all of the times the Scooter used to rave about it during Yankee telecasts).

I notice that after yesterday’s brief reprieve with PATOOT, it didn’t take long to revert to the mean today. I’ll put that one on the editors, and not in a good sense.

puzzlehoarder 8:00 AM  

A little north of medium today. A big part of that was my PLEDGE/SWEARS write over. Luckily the SE was as easy the NW which gave away SCARECROW and cleared up the confusion.

The H was my last letter and based solely on how common HAYES is. I was so clueless on the director I thought Sian was an Asian name.

Not the level of resistance that I expect from this constructor but still a very enjoyable late week solve.


yd -0. QB27

Anonymous 8:11 AM  

(raises hand) - me, too

Anders 8:11 AM  

A major difference between solving in the app vs paper is that in the app you are free to run the alphabet without penalty. So while I alsoboggled at the unconscionability of the _EDER/_AYES crossing, it was still just a shrug.

Anonymous 8:14 AM  

I check this site for answers after I complete the puzzle sometimes. But, honestly, the commentary is almost always so petty and whiny that I hesitate to tune in. Criticisms seem to be very individualistic - pop culture references are stupid if I don't know them, they are obvious and lame if I do know them - isn't that the way crosswords are supposed to work? The mix of familiar and unfamiliar, the corners you struggle over and then come back to after you've strewed over things? Anyway, as a normal, not world-class crossword solver, I'd like to suggest adopting a less snarky tone, although I understand it's not my site and I have the option of not coming here. Just the opinion of one reader.

Anonymous 8:15 AM  

I have a feeling your feeling is correct…i was definitely in the same boat

Anonymous 8:31 AM  

Hmm, the NYT crossword archives on the iOS app now only go back to 2021?

Conrad 8:36 AM  

Me too! Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone.

Conrad 8:37 AM  


Easy for a Saturday.

Overwrites:
At 24A I misspelled Anne Heche's name, easily fixed by the BARLEY part of 8D.
enOS before AMOS at 38A. A Biblical scholar I'm not.
MbA before MFA at 47D.

WOEs were HUNTER HAYES at 24D, Sian HEDER at 39A and RON English (52A). Needed Sergey & Larry for the Natick at square 39.

I (respectfully) disagree with @Rex and @Lewis: At 7D I was thinking, "Please don't be SHTICKY ... please don't be SHTICKY ... please don't be SHTICKY ... D'oh!"

Dan A 8:39 AM  

Too many uncommon proper names - that should be disallowed as a theme in itself

Bob Mills 8:44 AM  

Finished it with one cheat...I had "Keats" instead of YEATS for the poet, which left me "kuca" fries instead of YUCA fries. Neither one looked right, but the music sounded after I looked up YUCA. My other glitch was starting with "rescue animal" instead of FOSTERKITTEN, which should have been obvious because we have two cats we adopted as FOSTERKiTTENS eight years ago.



Druid 8:57 AM  

I wanted Slim Jim’s until I realized I was going to need a whole lot of “ms “.

Anonymous 9:03 AM  

I had the exact same experience with HEDER/HAYES and came here knowing you’d be complaining about it too. Never change, Rex.

Anonymous 9:11 AM  

Read the clue for 14A. Doesn't it read like a hilarious parody of an arcane pop culture trivia clue? The actress who voices another actress's mother in some movie you never saw?

From now on, every time I want to make fun of pop culture clues, I'll simply use the shorthand notation "14A is SANDRA OH."

You'll remember, won't you? After all, it can't be any harder to remember than remembering what actress voiced another actress's mother in a movie you never saw.

So many names! I almost threw it against the wall, but I actually ended up finishing it, I think*, and without cheating. I left out the HUNTER ?AYES/?EDER cross, but I plain didn't care.

*Going back now to see if GEDMEN or GADMEN or GODMEN are a Grindr thing.

pabloinnh 9:13 AM  

More sloggy than whooshy here but got'er done, although I didn't double check stuff and left ROS and CAGED in the SE so technical DNF. My print version never yells "almost there!" at me so I just left things as I had entered them. Oh well. And I was so proud of coming up with BIGAIR too.

Among the names I did not know today were all of them (as clued, I did now SANDRAOH, eventually). H was the only letter that sounded right to me so good guess there.

WINTERTIRES are essential around here, although most people would say snow tires. Our new tenant is a travelling nurse from Georgia, and we'll have to stress their importance to her.

Did the MBA thing for a while too, but my major snag was RESCUE before FOSTER for the KITTEN. Also took me too long to accept the H in SHTICKY, which is just fine.

Good Saturday, RMC. Rewarding, Medium-Challenging, and thanks for all the fun.

RooMonster 9:25 AM  

Hey All !
First pass through puz netted me exactly one answer. One. CEO. Started to SWEARS about what a ridiculously tough puz this was gonna be. But, as happens, kept rereading clues until the ole brain was able to get one here, one there, pretty soon connecting answers would magically appear, and I had a section done. Amazing.

Had CDtower in for CDRACKS (because they were towers...), but somehow that wrong answer got me to see the JERKY part of TURKEYJERKY (don't ask me how one wrong letter in an 11 letter answer gets you the answer, cause I wouldn't be able to tell you), so basically third word in got me an 11.

My F's bailed me out of the NW corner. Really wanted HOOFS at first, but couldn't initially get it to jive with anything else. Wanted able first for DEFT, eftS for ORCS, and ended up with Akwafina where SANDRAOH is. Erased everything up there, put in my HOOFS, saw maybe 4D was ORCS, said, "Hmm, that might make 4A OAFS", which begat FOSTER, and knew I was finally on the right track. Thank you F's!

Another F saver, MFA. Of course had MbA there, but the _ObT___ I had there was making nonsense. Said, "Hey, an MFA is a thing...", and low and behold, cleaned up and finished puz in that SE corner.

Final time according to the app, 36:16, which is downright amazing, as it seems like it took a lot longer. Patting myself on the back for being an expert puz solver! 🤣

So a good workout SatPuz that was ultimately doable sans cheats. Of course, my opinion, YMMV, as the Kids say these days. Har.

Happy Saturday, enjoy the weekend!

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Sam 9:31 AM  

Like Rex, total guess at HAYES/HEDER. Don’t love it.

Nancy 9:37 AM  

Read the clue for 14A. Doesn't it read like a hilarious parody of an arcane pop culture trivia clue? The actress who voices another actress's mother in some movie you never saw?

From now on, every time I want to make fun of pop culture clues, I'll simply use the shorthand notation "14A is SANDRA OH."

You'll remember, won't you? After all, it can't be any harder to remember than remembering what actress voiced another actress's mother in a movie you never saw.

So many names! I almost threw it against the wall, but I actually ended up finishing it, I think*, and without cheating. I left out the HUNTER ?AYES/?EDER cross, but I plain didn't care.

*Going back now to see if GEDMEN or GADMEN or GODMEN are a Grindr thing.

Rick Sacra 9:49 AM  

28 minutes for the father-son team this morning. Great puzzle! Tough, but not ungettable. I'm quite familiar with Hunter Hayes just from watching the CMA awards a couple times. Didn't know Sian Heder's name, nor Sandra Oh's. Nor did I know RON. But all getable from crosses. GREAT puzzle, just the right amount of toughness.... First answers were ASTHMA (I'm in healthcare), MUTT, KIDNEY, then got the second half (JERKY) and the first half (BARLEY) and hacked away at it slowly until we finished back in the NW with SANDRAOH, DEFT, UNPOTS and BAYOUS. Thanks, Ryan, great workout! : )

Anonymous 9:50 AM  

Hadn't thought of my mother sitting at her Singer in a while. Brought back some find memories.

jock spit 9:51 AM  

Cheap shot on Batman, but it’s Saturday…Mr Freeze had my brain

kitshef 10:06 AM  

@Nancy - does this mean the new computer is running properly? Also, you probably know this by now, but it is CAGEY, not CAGEd, and GAY MEN are the thing on Grindr. Also also, Mei Lee is a character's name rather than an actress. So it's "the actress who voices a character's mother in some movie you never saw". Which isn't any better.

Tom T 10:11 AM  

Clues for Hidden Diagonal Words (HDW) in today's grid:

1. What Maleska was wont to do

2. Subway concern

3. Smoker's concern

I finished this less than a minute quicker than yesterday's puzzle, and that included the time it took to try 2 or 3 options at the Horrible intersection of HAYES and HEDER (I think there's a CVS on the corner) before beginning with A and typing in each letter of the alphabet (B, erase, C, erase ...) until I got to H. So glad he's not HUNTER zAYES! And here's the thing--there's another country song with the title Wanted that came out a few years before HUNTER's effort, by undisputed country star (some might say legend) ALAN JACKSON, also 11 letters long! I guess Mr. Hayes didn't have any other hits that could be used in the clue.
My SE solve was very similar to Rex: no idea about the RON dude; had GAYMEN confidently in place until I decided it had to be SOFT Spot, which meant erasing GAYMEN; knew BIG AIR was a "thing," but no idea it is the actual name of an event.
But overall easy solve for me--I have said before that Saturdays are usually easier for me than Fridays. I think they usually have more white space which leads to more long answers which leads to more colloquial phrases instead of PPP, and I'm good at figuring out those phrases. Of course, every now and then, one of those longer Saturday answers is HUNTER *$&#@*^ HAYES.

Answers to Hidden Diagonal Word clues:
1. EDIT (E in 41A, CEO--Eugene T. Maleska edited the puzzles before Shortz)
2. RAT (R in 4D, ORCS)
3. TAR (T in 28D, JETES)
(So, you see, the semordnilap RAT/TAR occurred in two entirely different locations in today's grid-ah, the joy of HDWs!)

Have a not SAD DAY!

burtonkd 10:11 AM  

Seems like everyone (myself included) got to that same final square, squinted and put in “H”, so it must be inferable. With _AYES, that name jumps out as very familiar. I ran the alphabet just now for other possibilities: While I can pronounce it with every consonant, none of them make a standard English name, which would likely be the case for a country artist.

SANDRAOH is one of a handful of Asian actresses who have broken through to the American mainstream, and the clue gives away that we’re looking for an Asian name. Kind of interesting to see her name on top of TYPECAST, which I’m sure must have been a bugaboo for her.

Thank you Lewis for pointing out how colorful and original this puzzle is; always a welcome pull back to reality from the NIT BOG.

Major Steel 10:13 AM  

I got to the exact same place at the end and I commented to my wife: “ Ooh, I’ll bet Rex is going to have something to say about this crossing!” And I was right!!

Gary Jugert 10:23 AM  

Dreadfully unaware of the C-List celebrities, the movies, the quotes, and the authors in here. Fell into every single misdirection.

I do like TURKEY JERKY, PINKY SWEARS, THE SCARECROW, and FOSTER KITTEN, but the rest of this didn't touch my SOFT SIDE.

HOOF IT, LEG IT, CAB IT... the subway is right there, just saying. I'd spell SHTICKY SCHTICKY.

I apologize for my failure to respond to those of you who read HORNY TOAD yesterday and called me out (being one of our unrepentantly rapacious scallywags).

{Cue very small, very sad violin.} I didn't have time to read all y'all until late last night. I've spent the last two weeks packing up my entire life and career into cardboard boxes to move from my PENThouse in downtown Denver to (get this) a rental house in Albuquerque. It's a complicated tale involving God punishing me for being amused by HORNY TOADS (or HORNED TOADS for the less easily amused among us) which are now endangered due to the predatory proliferation of the invasive species commonly called "real estate developers." The moving van arrives on Monday. My legs are on fire thanks to 44 stairs in an old church. Everything I once loved is now available for 50 cents at the Broadway Goodwill. I gave my TV away. My sense of humor is languishing. And I missed a full day of HORNY TOADING on the blog. {raspberries}

Propers: 8
Places: 2
Products: 4
Partials: 4
Foreignisms: 1
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 19 of 66 (29%)

Funnyisms: 4 🙂

Tee-Hee: [Dope] ... and completely unrelated I swear [Grindr users].

Uniclues:

1 Your character name becomes your name.
2 Songs about tigers.
3 The Hallmark channel.
4 Suddenly jump off the roof.
5 When they finally admit Cher can't sing.

1 TYPECAST REWARD
2 CATTY CANTI
3 ONLINE SOFT SIDE
4 BIG AIR IN A HURRY
5 GAY MEN SAD DAY

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Why an NPR listener becomes a smug NPR listener. TOTEBAG MORPHS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mathgent 10:32 AM  

Lots of fun. I guessed HEDER/HAYES correctly. Clean solve! Who said I'm losing it?

River KWAI. One of my favorites. Alec Guinness nailed every one of his roles.

Lovely puzzle. Bright and fresh.

Hack mechanic 10:44 AM  

All three cultural references unknown for me. The H in Heche seeable because of enough crosses to see Hunter. Second H could be anything & kind of spoiled a really good puzz otherwise

egsforbreakfast 10:46 AM  

I'd have to say that a drink of boiled grains is BARelYWATER. Maybe it would be better with some SHTICKY rice.

Shouldn't the FLOVENT clue include: Do not use FLOVENT DISKUS if you have a severe allergy to milk proteins. Do not use FLOVENT DISKUS or FLOVENT HFA if you are allergic to fluticasone propionate or any of the ingredients in the products. Ask your healthcare provider if you are not sure.

I prefer to CANOODLE at Costco rather than go on TARGETDATES.

I like that the SE features GAYMEN crossing ARMINARM.

Nice puzzle despite the unfortunate "H". Thanks, Ryan McCarty.

Nancy 11:02 AM  

New computer -- well, let's see. It's making me sign in with a password each time it closes down or I close the lid. The F3 function doesn't bleeping work. And when I started pressing F keys looking for another one that did the same thing, the screen and the keyboard got darkish and almost unreadable again. (My handyman had brightened them up when he set me up, but he's off for three days now.)

And I've lost my Phrazle streak of something like 730 "got it in two guesses)s". Not that that one's such a biggie.

On the other hand, it types a whole lot better than my old one.

Whatsername 11:02 AM  

On the tough side thanks to the names and trivia, since I don’t know my Pixar actresses, best picture winners, pharmaceuticals, Batman characters, country singers, or snowboarding events. But at least I knew Grindr.

I didn’t think there was such a thing as “winter tires“ any more and had no clue what a “meeting deck” is. But now that someone explained in the comments, I remember those from when I was working. You get a packet ahead of time, then go to the meeting where somebody shows it to you on a BIG screen and reads aloud what you’ve already seen and read. Absolutely total waste of everyone’s time.

@Gary J: I’ve lived in Denver and moving to Albuquerque doesn’t sound like a bad deal to me. But the moving part, not so good. I read this in a book not long ago: “That sucks out loud.” Good luck! Hope all goes smoothly.

Matt B 11:11 AM  

Felt unsure about HEDER/HAYES but had no concerns about KEATS/KUCA, as I am equally ignorant of English-language poets and South American food. Oh well. Lovely, vibrant puzzle.

Nancy 11:19 AM  

That's me above!!!! Wondering if I have to click on "Reply as Nancy" every single bleeping time?

M and A 11:19 AM  

Some great fillins, mixed with some potent no-know-names. Had the SatPuz "look", with just 66 words and the Jaws of Themelessness. Well done feisty SatPuz.

some faves: FOSTERKITTEN. PINKYSWEARS. TURKEYJERKY/BARLEYWATER. CANOODLE. WACKOS. TITLE clue.
UNPOTS ... har. shticky.

staff weeject pick: RON. Another no-know dude.
Speakin of M&A no-know misfires:
Went with HUNTERGAYES/GEDER & KEATS/KUCA.
Luved @Nancy's SANDRAOH rant, btw.

Thanx for the appropriate amount of challenge/sufferin, Mr. McCarty dude. It was good for m&e.

Masked & Anonymo4Us


slightly shticky stuff:
**gruntz**

Anonymous 11:20 AM  

I, also had Keats/Kuca, AND H as my last square

Newboy 11:21 AM  

HEDER today joins NATICK in the Crosslandia Hall of Shame. Rex knocked the ball over the left field wall today. Boy do I miss Will ;>(

Anonymous 11:30 AM  

What a SHTICKY, unenjoyable trivia contest!

Anonymous 11:32 AM  

Could you not guess that ‘H’ ?

jae 11:32 AM  

Mostly easy except for the center which took me as long as the rest combined.

Center problems: Me too for HUNTER HAYES and HEDER being WOEs (and I have seen CODA) so, like almost everyone else, the H was a guess and my last letter), nudGE before TINGE, BARLEY WATER was a WOE, spelled SHTICKY wrong…PARTS, KITTEN, PINKY SWEARS, and WINTER TIRES did not come easily…tough center for me.

Quite a bit of sparkle. liked it.

Anonymous 11:33 AM  

Same here, I've been singing the song all morning!

Anonymous 11:45 AM  

Thank you for these great points. H is really the only letter that makes sense there, so it is inferable and thus not a Natick (in the prescriptivist original meaning). Is it really so hard to guess that a country singer’s name is Hunter Hayes and not, say, Hunter Fayes? I would love to know if anyone actually thought about it and tried another letter in there first.

And like you said, even if Mei Lee and Turning Red mean nothing to you, you can infer we’re looking for an Asian actress, probably between 35-55 years old, famous enough for crosswords. If you don’t know Sandra Oh that’s your problem.

Nancy 11:56 AM  

When I moved to a new apartment in 1995 -- and it was only a block and a half from my previous apartment -- I said to a friend: "There should be a support group for people who move." So stressful -- even the easier ones! You have my sympathy, Gary.

As for the Denver to Albuquerque switch: My prediction is that your winters will be better and your summers will be worse.

pabloinnh 12:01 PM  

Knew you had a move coming and it looks like the time is here. You have my deepest sympathies as we're finally completing our second move in three years, which started at the end of March and is now nearly done. We've gone from a great big house with a barn to a big house with a big garage to a condo and now a one-floor condo. Downsizing is necessary but exceedingly painful. Best of luck.

GILL I. 12:04 PM  

So ABU and I stared at each other. Did I actually get a 1A on a Saturday? I did. THEN, the ay dios mio uttered from my fine lips. Propers galore... hither and yon. How, pray tell, will I ever use the word SHTICKY when I'm full of gimmicks....SHTICKY note to self: Memorize drinks with boiled grain, County singers, the name of Mei Lee's voice, a British pop artist here, a Diarist there, what Nephrologist do and the beat goes on. Yes, I know...it's Saturday after all and you should be able to get things you aren't sure of if the other clues surrounding your enormous HUH's are fair. They were...sort of.

I get to "forever homes" and I easily penned in FOSTER and of course I assumed it had to be ANIMALS. No, it was a KITTEN (and all because I knew PINKY SWEAR had to be right)... so there's my K...The K saved my bakon....or should I say TURKEY JERKEY?

Move along and hope my good lucK streaK continues . My mantra (it sorta did) continued. YUCA. No problem with you but you need a little "Mojo" for the sauce. I probably eat YUCA once a month. You boil it like potatoes (but a lot. longer) and add some limon and ajo. It goes well with frijoles negros y arroz and of course puerco asado. I'm now hungry.

WINTER TIRES and IN A HURRY sorta sounded like an eat a sandwich thing. I did like CANOODLE WACKO and HUNTER's last name was KAYES. I was on a K Kick today and figured Sian's last name could be a KEDER. Wrong....(sigh)....

Last letter in was GAY MEN. I've heard of Grindr just like I've heard of Flovent but I didn't know for sure what you did, so I just flung in both answers with my usual flair and I was done.

End of puzzle moment: Overall, it was middle easy hard. I didn't like so many names. I got most of the names. I didn't get all of the names but I finished with only one cheat...AGENDA!!! You're some sort of meeting deck? I did need you, though because you started me off with some BARLEY.

@Gary J. Best of lucK to you. I think you're going to really enjoy Albuquerque. My son and his family live there and we've visited often. The people are really friendly and the scenery is amazing.....Try to stay sane until your last picture hangs on your new wall...

MetroGnome 12:27 PM  

What the hell is a "meeting deck"?

Beezer 12:28 PM  

Nancy, when I read your first post as “Anonymous” I thought…”I bet Nancy didn’t notice she was no longer “defaulted” to “blue Nancy”. There’s always something isn’t there?

Beezer 12:33 PM  

You are VERY far from “losing it” my friend!

Tom T 12:37 PM  

@GaryJ, moving sucks (at least the mechanics of it, and the parting with beloved "treasures"). And it sounds like you're less than thrilled with the new location. Hopefully it will offer pleasant surprises. In the meantime, in the trenches of the move, try not to let it get your HORNY TOAD ASS down!

egsforbreakfast 12:47 PM  

It's a smaller version of a big swinging deck.

Anonymous 12:56 PM  

Totally agree. Came here to say the same thing.

MJB 12:58 PM  

Mayes and Meder for me

Anonymous 12:58 PM  

So many manes in the puzzle I didn’t know, some crossing, made this puzzle unsolvable for me. Worst puzzle of the year so far.

EasyEd 1:07 PM  

Too much trivia/PPP for me to get a good start. In fact, started out with Tel as the Mideast capital—failed to think of ABU Dhabi as a city rather than a county—so off to a really bad start. Much of the other cluing was fun to decipher and was kind of amazed when SCHTICKY actually worked.

jb129 1:07 PM  

I started late & thinking I'll never get this. Happy to report that as I persevered, I found this puzzle pretty "doable" for a Saturday.
I didn't know HUNTER HAYES/SIAN HEDER cross, BARLEY WATER, or THE SCARECROW. Most kids don't say "CAN'T I". And I always take offense when a Mixed Breed is called a MUTT! (Don't do that!) But I really liked SHTICKY (a debut?) and PINKY SWEARS.
Thanks, Ryan for making me like Saturdays again (in spite of MUTT) :)

Michelle Turner 1:15 PM  

We knew it was you from the reference to throwing it against the wall.

Anonymous 2:14 PM  

The opinion of two! I enjoy reading up about the clues I misunderstood or with which I’m unfamiliar, but a small ego check would make a lot of reading more pleasant, respectfully. :)

okanaganer 2:18 PM  

Just back from four days at the cabin, but it feels as if I've been away a month. Really tough sledding here. I too finished with the blank square at -AYES / -EDER and I actually guessed the H first, but when no Happy Pencil I proceeded to run through all the consonants and nothing. Turns out, like @Bob Mills I had KEATS instead of YEATS because YUCA is spelled wrong. Arggh.

Hands up for DAR before ABU. Other typeovers were CD TOWER before RACKS, SLALOM before BIG AIR, CAN WE before CAN'T I, and SEA before BOG which made a mess. And isn't it SCHTICKY?... Google Ngram tells me: sometimes, but usually not!

Gene 2:52 PM  

I'm old enough so that was what I brought to all my presentations, a slide deck. Transparencies, also called slides, which I would put on the slide projector. The printed versions were handouts.

Gene 2:54 PM  

[also raises hand]

Gary Jugert 3:09 PM  

@Nancy 11:19 AM
Ha! I said to myself at, "movie you never saw" that this Anonymous author sounded like they were channeling Nancy. Your voice is unique my friend.

Z 3:36 PM  

If anyone is interested…
https://www.blackcrossword.com/

(BTW - Sitting in Auckland International and my phone won’t let me log in to my account. But yes, it’s really me)

Gary Jugert 3:37 PM  

@Nancy 11:02 AM
I just said to my wife (who does not do the puzzle nor read this blog and is standing in a sea of cardboard boxes), "Nancy got a new computer," and without a beat she said, "Oh no." 🤣 The image of you poking randomly at F buttons will fill me with happiness today. One of them makes the screen brighter too.

Les S. More 3:51 PM  

I didn't much like this puzzle. SE was a bear and the H at 39A was a big ????? , but the weirdest thing was when I misread nephrologist as phrenologist and plopped in skulls at 44A. I should probably do these things in the evening, when I'm awake rather than the morning when I'm always sorta groggy.

Anonymous 4:44 PM  

Can somebody explain the "e" / ONLINE thing?

Anonymous 4:44 PM  

I guessed Feder and Fayes.

Anonymous 4:46 PM  

You be you. Let other people be other people. I prefer wrongheaded comments that show personality and enthusiasm to weak descriptive comments or, worse, sanctimonious scolding comments. If you want boring, there’s always Wordplay.

SouthsideJohnny 4:54 PM  

Think Email or E-book.

Anonymous 4:59 PM  

I did exactly the same thing -- that H was the last letter I filled in and a lucky guess

Gary Jugert 8:14 PM  

@Z 3:36 PM
Fun. Thanks.

Nancy 8:24 PM  

Your wife really said THAT about my getting a computer, Gary (your 3:37 post; there was no Reply button under that comment)? Too funny!

I don't think you have to worry about losing your sense of humor, btw, even under the duress of moving. I think it's pretty much embedded. But you should be encouraged by what @Gill said. She may be the most traveled person on this blog and has lived in lots of very different places, and if she says Albuquerque is a desirable place to live, I bet it really is.

RooMonster 12:07 AM  

Testing... Mods, are you not getting my posts?

Roo

Bonnie Buratti 12:59 AM  

OK, I don't understand why there isn't more discussion of the cattiness of Fagliano's puzzles. This man goes all out for felines. Catdom yesterday, and then both Foster kitten and catty today. Meowing sphinxes, pumas galore, cats shaped like loaves, paws, lynxes, everything cat in his puzzles.

Anonymous 11:42 AM  

Explain “hearties” please!

Anonymous 11:21 PM  

It’s either or both.

Anonymous 10:56 AM  

Hesitate to ask because nobody else has… but in 26A how is “Dope” = “ASS”? Does the word “ASS” turn up with increasing frequency and proliferating meanings or am I imagining it?

Anonymous 10:44 AM  

I feel bad for HUNTER HAYES. He had 5 Top 20 singles and a double-platinum debut album, then the first single from his next album was so-so and he has only had 3 charting singles in the ten years since, none of which got higher than #26. And there wasn't any scandal or anything that torpedoed his career. The country genre typically doesn't discard its artists so quickly like can happen in pop. I can't think of another country artist who has had so much success out the gate and then couldn't do anything for a decade to get anyone's attention.

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