Locale in Belmar NJ that lent its name to a noted rock-'n'-roll band / FRI 8-11-23 / Names of three czars of Bulgaria / Music genre for Lorde and Lana Del Rey / Hyperbole from someone who's dreaming big / Turner once big in the music industry

Friday, August 11, 2023

Constructor: John-Clark Levin

Relative difficulty: Easy



THEME: none 

Word of the Day: OAKS Park (5A: London's ___ Park, near Epsom Downs) —
Oaks Park is a public park in Carshalton in the London Borough of Sutton. It is bounded on the south by Croydon Lane (A2022), and on the east by Woodmansterne Road; smaller roads lie to west and north. [...] The estate lent its name to the Oaks horserace which was inaugurated by the Earl in 1779 and is run annually during the Derby meeting at Epsom Downs Racecourse, about 4 miles to the west. The original Oaks Race ran from Barrow Hedges, north of The Oaks and through Oaks Park before heading west to approximately the site of the current Epsom Downs Racecourse. Part of the off-road route still exists. (wikipedia)
• • •

Two good answers ("THE SKY'S THE LIMIT!" / "YOU WON'T REGRET IT!") with a lot of Yawn in between. Not enough marquee punch to really get off the ground. And it opens so badly—with a faux-chummy corporate slogan for a company whose dystopian "smart devices" essentially have much of the world voluntarily treating a powerful surveillance company like a friendly household assistant—that the puzzle would've needed a whole lot of oomph to recover. Whereas it only has, like, two oomphs. Nothing really wrong with this puzzle (besides the repulsive 1-Across). It's just not that interesting. It tries to do a little pasta dance there in the NE, but for me all that does is detract from from the only really interesting Down in the whole puzzle. Loved seeing POMODORO, but OLIVEOIL is the equivalent of EPEE where eight-letter answers are concerned, so I don't know that the corner is really elevated by pretending that you meant for those two answers to be thematically complementary. I mean, it's a cute coincidence, but that's all it is. And as for OREOCONE, I have no idea what that even is. All I know is that once again, as with 1-Across, the puzzle is back to trying to get its "relevance" and "currency" from corporations—in this case, by just mining every damn product in the OREO line. You're welcome, Nabisco. Is the cone made of Oreo? Is there an entire frozen dessert product called the OREOCONE? The more you look at it, the more it looks like a steroid ... something you'd put on a LESION. Have I not seen a pharmaceutical ad for an eczema treatment called OREOCONE? Seems plausible. If you think OREOCONE is a silly name for a prescription drug, brother, you haven't been anywhere near the pharmaceutical ad universe. Here's part of a subreddit entitled "Worst Drug Brand Name" (which I lifted from this article on weird prescription drug names in Philadelphia magazine):
 — Migranal. You’d think it was a rectal suppository for migraines.
          — For when your migraines are a pain in the ass.
— Bloxiverz. It’s like they let a 13-year-old create the name.
— Acyclovir. I once pronounced it “assy-clover” … will never live that one down in the pharmacy.
— Phosex. Pfizer really missed out on that one when branding Viagra.
— All these brand names people are saying here sound like Pokรฉmon.
After working out the Google ad answer (after determining it wasn't a Siri ad answer or an Alexa ad answer),  the puzzle got very easy, and I just kinda followed the path of gravity, down, down, down, like water following the path of least resistance:

[Wish something could've caused this grid to sizzle]

I had no idea about OAKS Park, up front, and no idea about BORIS at all, but only the former caused any trouble (coming early, when I had nothing in the grid to help me out). Falling down the grid as I did, I had the BO- before I saw the clue at 50A: Name of three czars of Bulgaria (BORIS), and thought "Hmm, what are five-letter BO-names?" and, well, it turns out there aren't that many. Figured BOBBY was probably not likely, and went with the only other five-letter BO-name I could think of. This is crossword solving! Whenever anyone mistakenly thinks you have to be "smart" to solve these things, just remember that most of the time all you're doing is trying to come up with a five-letter BO-name (or the equivalent). It's a skill that can be developed, but it ain't rocket science.


I have heard the music of Lana Del Rey and Lorde a lot but have never heard anyone refer to it as ALT-POP (9A: Music genre for Lorde and Lana Del Rey). ALT-names, like OREO-names, all feel to me as if they're being artificially sustained by crosswords. You're much (much much) more likely to hear the music of the aforementioned artists referred to as "INDIE POP." I've never heard the 2 Chainz song in question but I do eagerly await the day the puzzle has the courage to put CHAINZ in the grid. Or go full 2 CHAINZ and use numerals in your grid somehow. This has almost certainly been done in an alt- I mean indie crossword, somewhere. But at the NYTXW ...


Today we learn that HOES have "handles" (fascinating!) (24A: Handled things outside?) and that CD PLAYERs are "Turner"s, of a sort (36D: Turner once big in the music industry). The latter clue is using the time-honored trick of using the capitalization of the first letter in a clue to create the false appearance of a proper noun, in this case a non-Ike, non-Tina "Turner." KATHLEEN fits, but ... like BOBBY, seemed unlikely. Plus, I had the "C" to start with, so the CD part was pretty obvious. So hurray for two answers in this puzzle! And ho-hum to the rest. Hopefully tomorrow will bring more sizzle, and more punch.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. Google owns Blogger, I think, so I should probably apologize to my corporate overlords for disrespecting the brand. OK, GOOGLE, you win, I'm sorry.

P.P.S. This is an OREOCONE (I think):
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70 comments:

Bob Mills 6:13 AM  

It must have been easy. I finished it in record time, with only one stumbling block...the GLYPH/HOES cross. Will Shortz was busy with the misdirects in this puzzle, but I've come to expect them on Saturdays and Fridays.

bocamp 6:43 AM  

Thx, John-Clark; nicely done! ๐Ÿ˜Š

Med.

Reasonably smooth solve; needed all the crosses for POMODORO & SIGNS, tho.

Use my Home Minis everyday; the kitchen one for a timer, and the front room for weather, word defs, etc. It's always 'OK' GOOGLE, rather than 'hey', so as not to get Siri confused.

Spent many a night at HOSTELs on my European adventure in the '60s.

Speaking of adventures, this was a fun one; liked it a lot! :)

Prayers for Maui. ๐Ÿ™
___
Peace ๐Ÿ•Š ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity ~ & a DAP to all ๐Ÿ‘Š ๐Ÿ™

SouthsideJohnny 7:18 AM  

A rare easy Friday for me - most of it felt like a Wednesday. I was bummed at the outset with both OK GOOGLE (just seems presumptuous and also forced) and ALT POP - I still can’t quite accept these “genre” classifications as anything but arbitrary. If I am incorrect on that score - please, someone enlighten me. For example, could someone please explain maybe one characteristic of music by Lorde or Lana Del Rey that makes it ALT POP and not just POP music ? I checked the Rock and Roll hall of fame website for some insight but couldn’t find much - is there some other online resources that may be of assistance ?

I feel so sorry for GLYPH - it’s parents really missed the boat assigning it that moniker. Geez what an ugly sounding word.

The CD PLAYER misdirect is certainly valid, but just seemed to fall flat for me (it’s actually more of a groaner than the SERENA / Venus PPP misdirect).

I would be very content with more Fridays like this one, though I suspect many will find it too early-weekish for their tastes.

JJK 7:18 AM  

My second day in a row of having the most difficulty in the NW, this time I blame OKGOOGLE for my problems. I know this phrase exists (although I don’t talk to my house, my kids do talk to theirs, and I can never remember which system starts with “hey” etc.) but the real problem was that it didn’t occur to me that the puzzle was hawking a specific product, so I was trying to find some general term for activating a smart system. Add to that not knowing either the chemical compound (organic chemistry was one of my worst classes in college) or the London park. And the kealoa of figuring out a synonym for “dang it” Darn, rats, nuts…

Anonymous 7:22 AM  

I enjoyed "sole employee". Otherwise agree with Rex.

kitshef 7:23 AM  

Newcastle Brown Ale was for many years my alcoholic beverage of choice. Sometime in my forties, my physiology changed and I went from beer = no hangover: wine = hangover to the reverse. So now, brown ale is an occasional treat and I mostly drink cheap wine.

Very difficult start for me, as OK GOOGLE needed six of the eight crosses to come to me. Not a phrase I’ve ever used. Wound up abandoning and things got much easier, and basically solved in a big U shape from NE – SE – SW – NW.

I’ve always enjoyed DALI’s work, but recently started looking at other surrealists more seriously. I mean, I always knew Magritte, but guys like Tanguey and de Chirico are new to me. Just starting this, so maybe my interest will fizzle, but so far I’m enjoying it.

Conrad 7:25 AM  


I found the top half challenging, and the bottom half easy for an overall Medium.

Not knowing my hydrocarbons (1D), or my mixology (2D), or London parks (5D) and wanting "rebus" for the pictogram (6D) messed me up in the NW. Then in the NE I had aRaBle before TRIBAL at 11D, and echo(?) before LOOP at 30A.

Anonymous 7:30 AM  

As a Brit, in London — that is Not a famous park, with or without the Epsom Downs qualifier

Son Volt 7:35 AM  

Down with the big guy this morning - some things popped here but there was a bunch of unfortunate fill. LESION, PETER PAN, OREO CONE etc are rough. The longs Rex highlights are solid and I liked BEAR HUGS, INNOVATE and E STREET.

I guess people still drink KAHLUA? I can’t bitch much about GOOGLE as we are an Alexa household. Never watched LA LAW - enough attorneys in my life as it is - but it was pervasive during it’s time.

Didn’t quite scratch my Friday itch.

RAGgle TAGle Gypsy

Lewis 7:45 AM  

John-Clark’s puzzle tripped off things I love:

Riddle clues, such as [Places where masks are seen indoors].

Misdirecting clues where a common meaning for a word sends me on a different thinking path than the one needed to solve it, such as [Needs some icing, say].

When a puzzle pummels with good vibes: THE SKY’S THE LIMIT, BEAR HUGS, YOU WON’T REGRET IT.

The word RAGTAG, so much that I looked up its origin, found out that it’s a shortening of an old expression “ragtag and bobtail”, which plummeted me down a rabbit hole regarding the meaning of the line in “Jingle Bells” that includes “bobtail” (it seems that no one in the world agrees on what that meaning is). But what a sidetrip!

The constructor’s range, as an American PhD. student at Cambridge (in England) studying “how governments can better anticipate the impacts of artificial intelligence” (Will Shortz, 3/5/23), while in his spare time doing magic and stand-up comedy.

Lovely junctions, such as the cookie cross of LORNA and OREO.

How can I not love a puzzle that awakens such love? Thank you, John-Clark, for such an exuberant lift!

Anonymous 7:49 AM  

Pomodoro is merely Italian for tomato and thus redundant

Phillyrad1999 7:52 AM  

Not sure why we wouldn’t give some credit for positioning POMODORO and OLIVEOIL. Same as for crossing LORNA and OREO. Seems like at least a little bit of thought went into it,

pabloinnh 8:03 AM  

Alexa is our go-to so OKGOOGLE was a WTF (hi@JJK). OTOH, PETERPAN was a gimme so that's where I started and things went relatively smoothly after that. Agree with others in finding ALTPOP more than a little fishy, and have never seen LALAW, as it is neither news nor sports.

I did learn the formula for OCTANE and give thanks to OFL for finding a picture of an actual OREOCONE, which I suspected was invented for purposes of this puzzle. Guess not.

Thought the clue for OAKS was a little far-fetched, but I guess "trees with acorns" would have been too obvious.

Nice Fridecito,J-CL. I can tell you're no JOHNNY-COME LATELY to the crossword game, and thanks for some breezy fun.

Anonymous 8:11 AM  

@Lewis, "bobtail" is the name of the horse in Jingle Bells....

andrew 8:22 AM  

Maybe in honor of KAHLUA, did this bottoms up. Had ALTrap so was slowed in NE.

And yes, Rex, if you include a picture of OREOCONEs, they must exist (I think). And i agree about the awful surveillance state so am more offended by OSS (and Operation Paperclip, which imported Nazis) than I am OKGOOGLE. That is, if I were offended by any crossword answer (which I am not).

Thought this was an enjoyable Friday - challenging but gettable with some fun misdirects (“Continental, e.g.” - Breakfast? European? Defunct airline?)

Anonymous 8:33 AM  

Oaks Park is not exactly up there on the four-letter fame-o-meter with Hyde Park. Oaks Park is over four miles from Epsom Downs. So, an NYC equivalent might be: Clue: Park near MOMA. A: First Park. Yeah. Sure.

Mack 8:33 AM  

A lot of the reviews today seem like they were written by me. Lots of complaining about weird things.
@Rex is in a huff of righteous indignation about OK GOOGLE, but I don't recall him complaining about the billion Apple products constantly showing up in the puzzle (maybe he has, I can't keep track of every single post he's made). Why not complain about the puzzle serving as free advertising for Kahlua? I'd argue alcohol has a worse effect on the world than Google. But no, let's all arbitrarily get up in arms about this particular product.

OLIVE OIL, LESION, PETER PAN are considered bad fill? NETS, TEAS, RAP, ICED....sure, I'll grant you those. But for the most part I found the puzzle smooth and interesting.

I agree about OREO CONE (hey look, more free advertising! Gods save us!). Never heard of it.

BEAR HUGS was the highlight of the puzzle. Loved it.

Overall very easy, but also interesting. I had one very moronic hiccup: for the Oklahoma clue I put in ARABLE, but as I started getting the crosses it turned into ARIBAL. I looked at that and thought, "Am I dumb? Did I forget how this word is spelled?" Don't have the slightest clue what those musicians sound like, so that was no help. Took me a while before I face palmed myself.

Joaquin 8:35 AM  

Re: 24A [Handled things outside?]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Znxt2UT6rc&ab_channel=ClassicComedyTube

Anonymous 8:42 AM  

In seven years in London, never heard of that Park

Tail End Charlie 8:43 AM  

Started this while falling asleep last night. This morning my (30 yo) daughter grabbed my phone and ripped through OKGOOGLE, Peter Pan etc. and we were done in a flash (I don’t Woosh!)
Reminds me of those Venn diagrams of slightly overlapping circles (life experiences) we learnt in third grade.
Usually I finish these about Tuesday.

Liveprof 8:47 AM  

I teach a business law course to accounting students, and one semester a student raised his hand and asked me about a legal matter that arose the night before in an episode of LA LAW. I fumbled around for an answer for a minute and then just gave up and said, "I usually do better on legal issues that arise in The Simpsons."

Liveprof 8:58 AM  

Instead of SPIRO's "nattering nabobs of negativity," we only have those in favor here: PROS and AYES.

I also noticed he (SPIRO Agnew) is near PAROLE in the grid. Two days ago was the anniversary of Nixon's resigning from office. He announced it on the 8th, and resigned on the 9th, in 1974.


RooMonster 9:15 AM  

Hey All !
Relatively easy FriPuz. Was hung up in some spots, but finished in 20 mins, 30 secs, quick for me.

Wanted wine for TEAS. You know, those Boxed Wines. Had airline for LINCOLN. Sad, as I own a LINCOLN Continental. (1976 Mark IV with 26000 original miles. ๐Ÿ˜)

Nice FriPuz. Fairly quick, the strain on the ole brain not too bad. Har.

Happy Friday.

No F's (I REGRET IT)
RooMonster
DarrinV

egsforbreakfast 9:16 AM  

Nice to see my friend the EGRET back, hidden in 63A, and clued in 25A.

Aren’t COOS January 6 type events?

Easy peasy Friday, but decent fun. Thanks, John-Clark Levin.

EasyEd 9:18 AM  

Don’t drink White Russians so had to GOOGLE KAHLUA before fairly easily finishing all but the northeast where I totally failed the Italian cooking quiz. Not to mention ALTPOP. Is there an OREOPOP?

Anonymous 9:28 AM  

There is also an OAKS Park near Portland, OR, once home to a Harry Traver coaster masterpiece called Zip. (For the one person out there who cares.)

Gary Jugert 9:47 AM  

I feared this would be another Friday fail after only two guesses from pass number one. Turned out both were correct, and then the southeast caved like a mobile home in a tornado. Then I flowed west and easily backfilled the top and then I was done.

Lots of cutesy clues right in my wheelhouse made the ho-hum nature of a themeless more snappy, but if I can do a Friday or Saturday without much fuss, I know ๐Ÿฆ– will be grumbly about it being a yawner, as he does today.

His Google screech is particularly amusing. They probably thank Zuckerberg every day for being the poster boy of data mining so they can do the exact same thing with less attention. None of it matters if you have a cell phone, they've already won. You don't even need to use it, just have it on and in your pocket. Craziness ... and we all jumped on board so we could look at photos of people we never really liked in the first place. And to kibbutz about crosswords.

SPIRO gave me the most trouble. I think I've heard of him in retrospect.

Uniclues:

1 Dead president crumble.
2 The doc says no to Milli and Vanilli.
3 Ignored the Bible.
4 Uncomfortably short relationship arc.
5 Listening to Bruce while waking and baking.
6 Nickname for tennis champ after the Ritz was booked.
7 Monkey used ASL.
8 What? Young guy likes the Food Channel.

1 LINCOLN COBBLER (~)
2 DRE ICED DUO
3 RESTED PASSAGES
4 GREETS. BEARHUGS.
5 E-STREET DAY TRIP
6 HOSTEL SERENA
7 APE SAID SIGNS
8 PETER PAN SAUTES

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Your next best option after you've been ousted from office and all social media channels. FIRE BRAND FAX.

¯\_(ใƒ„)_/¯

puzzlehoarder 9:48 AM  

A disappointingly easy Friday. POMODORO was completely unknown to me and it made no difference. The NE was the first section I filled and it was just as soft as the rest of the puzzle.

Su + Mo -0, Tu pg -1, We + Th -0

jberg 9:54 AM  

Well you could clue it as "Dunbarton ____" but that would be kind of obvious; or as "Nut producers," but NUTS is in the grid. I just ignored the clue and got it from crosses, which luckily were easy.

My favorite thing about the puzzle was 18-D, with HOSTEL clued as a place to stay, almost directly over 44-D, which implies that if you don't stay in a hotel you must be on a DAY TRIP.

My least favorite thing was PASSAGES. "What did you study in your literature class today?" "Oh, PASSAGES." But maybe that was better than TEAS, the worst POC ever.

My son-in-law makes his living in the biotech world, but in his spare time he plays in an alternative rock band. I asked him once what made it alt, and he told me it had interesting lyrics.

MBI 9:59 AM  

As probably the only person who comments on crosswords who has the authority to say, 2 Chainz's "Rap or Go to the League" was not a quote-unquote "hit album." No one was listening to 2 Chainz in 2019

Michael 9:59 AM  

Off topic, but just read the NYT article about the Spiedies Festival in Binghamton.

Rex, do they taste as good as they sound?

sidneyellenwade 10:00 AM  

I think the meaning of "handled" in 24A is that it is an implement that is used by hand, rather than an implement that has a handle. I've never seen one on a hoe.

Andrew Z 10:20 AM  

If Thursday puzzles were themeless, this would be a good puzzle for that day.

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

Excellent ! Well done…really made my day !

Anonymous 10:22 AM  

Getting octane out of the gate made everything else super easy. Fun time for me.

Trina 10:25 AM  

I think PASSAGES refers to the way standardized tests run “read the following PASSAGE and then answer the below questions”. With passage being an extract …

burtonkd 10:32 AM  

I thought Wednesday challenging for this one. I thought it was a very pleasant romp spreading NW to SE, appeasing the xword gods. Nothing held me up for very long at all - 1/3 of my time from yesterday.

Was waiting for the woosh-review, but got OKGOOGLE screed - I wouldn't call it a "slogan" btw. Good point Andrew about no problem with OSS on the surveillance front (they even cross).

@anon - POMODORO tomato sauce would be redundant, POMODORO sauce by itself, not so much, unless every sauce has tomato in it.





Anonymous 10:33 AM  

Really enjoyed today’s write up ny OFL. Had me smiling in the cardiologist’s office. A rare event.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 10:42 AM  

@SouthsideJohnny - 7:18 AM - Genre classifications such as ALT POP are no more arbitrary than, say, genre classifications like classical, romantic, modern, and contemporary (granted those are periods, not genres per se, but same idea). There's a perfectly good definition right in Merriam-Webster: "Pop music that has broad appeal but that is produced by performers who are outside the musical mainstream and that is typically regarded as more original, eclectic, or musically or intellectually challenging than most pop music."

Newboy 10:54 AM  

E(say) STREET today. Thanks John-Clark for an opportunity to bolster my EGO after Thursday’s tsunami of doubt!

Is this Shortz’s mea culpa for yesterday’s grid?

mateo 10:55 AM  

Lots of ICE in this puzzle. ICED, cookie flavored ICE cream treat and needs some ICING, say for ACHES. Isn't that strange?

Carola 10:57 AM  

I guess I'm the outlier here - I found the puzzle very tough and was happy to finish. I was hampered by some wrong guesses (Brown cow, not ALE, and Great Auk, not APE, and by not trusting, and thus erasing, some guesses that turned out to be right (ALTPOP, GLYPH, HOES, WADER, COBBLER). But mainly, I was in blank-stare territory most of the time. Eventually I got the bottom half worked out, then managed to finish the NE and finally the NW, with OK GOOGLE (gag: I'm with @Rex here) x LESION last to go in.

Nancy 11:01 AM  

Well, not knowing that those letters and numbers = OCTANE (that's the periodic table, right?), with OAKS being perhaps the only park in London I've never heard of, with my not knowing GLYPH without crosses, with "sore spot" being the sort of vague clue that can be anything at all, and with OK GOOGLE being something that other people may say or type but that I don't, the NW corner certainly wasn't easy for me.

But everything else was.

My favorite clue was "Star close to Venus." Lewis will tell me whether it's ever been used before. If it hasn't, it glitters.

"Fresh" was a nice clue for RESTED. It can mean so many different things. Just like "sore spot" can.

Far from the hardest Friday I've ever done, but not without some interest. And pretty junk-free too.

jae 11:04 AM  

Easy-medium. delt before PECS ate up more than a few nanoseconds and OKGOOGLE took a lot of crosses. The rest went pretty smoothly. I got BORIS the same way @Rex did. Great 15s, liked it.

I highly recommend “LINCOLN LAWYER” on Netflix.

I hooked up my CD PLAYER to Bluetooth transmitter and 2 Sony Bluetooth
speakers, works great!

Joseph Michael 11:05 AM  

If you think of people born between 1946 and 1964 as smart devices, the activation phrase for 1A could easily be OK, BOOMER.

Upstate George 11:08 AM  

"Bobtail" simply refers to any animal whose tail has been "bobbed", meaning clipped shorter than its natural length. It's not rocket science, people!

GILL I. 11:32 AM  

Well, A Black Russian also has KAHLUA. What makes the White Russian different is the cream. Good gravy....Do you know how hard it is to fit the word CREAM into 6 letters? THEN....I ask my very Brit husband if he can tell me the name of a 4 letter park near Epsom Downs. He can't. He goes to bed....I don't
I don't OK GOOGLE. I ask my Siri. She's a hot potato with all the answers. HIGH SIRI! Oh...not you.
1D. OCTANE? I'm running out of good gravy. GLYPH? Who dat?
9A. ALT POP for Lana Del Rey? I'm dying here.....
The top acrosses looked funny with only OSS LESION and PETER PAN. I'm outta here....
I go to the middle and bottom area. Wow...I LET ER RIP! I'm doing this. I'm beginning to enjoy John's fiendish cluing. Nothing is stopping me. YOU WON'T REGRET THIS....Clap, clap. Finished in that area...Go back upstair and cheat at 1A.... I did.
OCTANE GLYPH and E STREET...My three stooges. OK...so I see OK GOOGLE. Ignore it...
Go to the food court area in the east side. Ah, yes...POMODORO with a slosh of OLIVE OIL....Done. PAROLE gave me LA LAW...Done. Little by little! And then...THE SKYS THE LIMIT!
Phew.
I finished the downs and then....I stared at HOES. HOES? I initially had HOSE. I guess HOES do have handles or handlers or whatever they're called. And look! right above HOES is SPIRO...I wanted NIXON in that slot. SPIRO and HOES are better.
LINCOLN....I'm currently watching LINCOLN LAWYER. It's good. I recommend it. AND.....Manuel Garcia Rulfo is yummilicious.
Done!

My heart goes out to the residents of Maui. What has happened is incredibly sad. All that beauty gone. Enormous sigh.

Anonymous 11:33 AM  

Fwiw you’re not the *only* person to have had that thought. In the Venn Diagram of people who comment on crossword blogs and people who are actually familiar with 2 Chainz, I am also in the overlap. Brings back blurry memories of trashy clubs I frequented during law school (yuck) in the late aughts.

jb129 11:35 AM  

This was a puzzle where everything fell into place for me - so much so that I had to look & make sure it was Friday.

Congrats on your debut, John.

johnk 11:37 AM  

My only problem (but a fun problem) was early on in the NE. Never heard of these Del Reys, so ART POP? ART RAP? Then PAROLE, PARDON or PERIOD? Quickly recovered over pasta.

mathgent 11:58 AM  

Excellent puzzle. Above average everywhere. Crunch, sparkle, no junk, only ten Terrible threes, sharp cluing.

It looks like the Marriott in Lahaina is undamaged but we're still cancelling our reservation for six weeks from now. Most of our favorite restaurants are gone and things will probably be chaotic. This is guesswork because most communication there is down.




Masked and Anonymous 12:05 PM  

Thought there'd be a lotta trouble brewin, when the cluin started out with "activation phrase"/c8H18. Gave ETHANE a try for C8H18, but that was only 50% right. However, things got easier after that, except for a handful of no-know entries.

The no-knows: OKGOOGLE. POMODORO. BORIS the czar dude. OAKS the park place. Brown ALE. And all those no-knows were kinda eventually inferable, except for the POMODORO one.

SPIRO had a much tighter "veep" clue than yesterday's. See runtpuz below, for a reminder on that.

Luved the SERENA and CDPLAYER clues. BTW: This same constructioneer used the exact same SERENA clue in a SunPuz, earlier this year, I think.
Also liked: THESKYSTHELIMIT. KAHLUA. PETERPAN. RAGTAG. ESTREET. GLYPH.

staff weeject pick: DRE/RAP combo. If they gotta go down the rap road, at least they went with stuff I knew about.

Thanx for everything, from NETS to NUTS, Mr. Levin dude. Nice, fairly friendly FriPuz.

Masked & Anonymo4Us


deja-clue event included:
**gruntz**

Lewis 12:06 PM  

@Nancy, in the Times it's been used three times, the previous time by the same constructor, last Spring! And there have been many riffing on the same idea in many crossword venues.

John Entwistle 12:25 PM  

I was really hoping Rex would embed a recording of "Boris the Spider."

Whatsername 12:25 PM  

I didn’t spend a lot of time evaluating but it seemed fresh and fun and one I enjoyed solving. Lots of INNOVATIVE clues and PPP about right.

Having just bought a new vehicle a few days ago, I couldn’t help but notice the subtle CAR theme, starting right off up there with OCTANE. Then an ENGINE and a CD PLAYER which I learned they don’t even put in new vehicles any more, not even a LINCOLN as far as I KNEW. Mine did come with a handy cargo NET though. And finally there was YOU WONT REGRET IT which is what the SALES man actually said to me as I was signing the papers. So far he was right.

okanaganer 1:37 PM  

Agree it was easy, and not much of note besides the two great acrosses. Although it was nice to see E STREET again after all these years.

Typeovers: AIRLINE before LINCOLN for "Continental, e.g.", and because I wasn't paying attention to the clue, AGNEW before SPIRO.

[Spelling Bee: Thu 0, last word this familiar 5er. QB streak at 8!]

Sarah 1:45 PM  

Pretty enjoyable puzzle, but I struggled with the NE -- wrote MARINARA instead of POMODORO and it took me a while to extricate myself from that one. But, y'know, I WONTREGRETIT, even with some so-so fill.

Anonymous 1:46 PM  

I finished it! Then I found out it was easy. Damn.

Joe Dipinto 2:38 PM  

I've never heard of "pomodoro sauce", which literally just means "tomato sauce", but I see a whole spate of online videos touting supposed recipes for it. It sounds like an affectation. Commercial brands often sell a product called "tomato-basil sauce", which, according to the clue, should theoretically be the same thing. (And marinara sauce is practically identical.)

Wader taking a day trip

Ed Rorie 3:31 PM  

Jberg, did you mean “Dumbarton Oaks”?

Anoa Bob 5:12 PM  

Yeah @Southside 7:18, that GLYPH hanging out there all by itself looks a little sad. Plop a hiero- or petro- in front it, though, and it comes to life. I should also mention that hieroGLYPHs, petroGLYPHs and other pictographs played key roles in the development of abstract alphabets through a process that language scholars call the "Rebus Principle". (Not to be confused with multiple letters in a single square of a crossword puzzle grid.)

My uncle BORIS works in the kitchen of the local E STREET HOSTEL. He SAUTES POMODORO noodles with OLIVE OIL and serves it up with ALE and ICED TEAS. For dessert he has some COBBLER sprinkled with NUTS, a few LORNA Doone cookies and an OREO CONE smothered with KAHLUA. It's a sumptuous REPAST. If you're in the area, try it. YOU WON'T REGRET IT.

40 Across reminded me of a classic ALT POP. It's Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen's "Hot Rod LINCOLN".

dgd 6:16 PM  

The answer is in lower case a simple word. So they needed an obscure clue for a Friday. Clearly they figured very very few of the Times crosswords solvers would know it. I just thought of likely short park names after I got the ks and thought of oak as the only possibility.

Anonymous 6:29 PM  

Same reaction

dgd 6:44 PM  

I saw that article and thought of Rex. They sounded good.
Spiedini in Italian = skewers. Americanized of course. I am Italian American but there are a lot of local foods in the US of Italian immigrant origin that that I wasn’t aware of. This is one of them. Unlike many, this one I would like to try.

As an Italian American there are

jae 6:44 PM  

For an OAKS clue there is always: “Tara’s neighbor Twelve ____”

spacecraft 11:08 AM  

A bit pedestrian for a Friday. OK, two in-the-language gridspanners, but little beyond. INNOVATE, J-C. YOUWONTREGRETIT. THESKYSTHELIMIT.

A lovely new kealoa: "What many sentences end with:" P_R___. Is it PERIOD...or PAROLE? Ha, I waited to make sure. No writeover here!

Not wanting to IGNITE the OCTANE, and noting the excellent DOD EVA, I EASED up on my scoring and awarded a birdie.

Wordle bogey.

Burma Shave 12:55 PM  

PRO PLAYER

"EVA,YOUWON'TREGRETIT",
SAID SERENA on their DAYTRIP.
"I KNEWIT and WON'T forget IT,
IT's OK to TEAS and STRIP."

--- LORNA LINCOLN

Anonymous 1:22 PM  

Medium-easy for a Friday. Nothing particularly bad (or good) about this one.

rondo 4:27 PM  

I had the same kealoa moment as @spacey with the P_R___ but wrote over my raTS with NUTS. Nothing more of particular interest until near the end with yeah baby EVA Longoria.
Wordle par.

Diana, LIW 6:07 PM  

I got by with a little help.

OKGOOGLE - that's a thing, huh? I am so gadget free it's pitiful.

Diana, LIW

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