Japanese board game also called Five in a Row / SUN 8-13-23 / Motivational content in modern slang / Texas metroplex to locals / Clothing style with retro and preppy influences / Style of alternative rock with psychedelic influences
Sunday, August 13, 2023
Constructor: Manaal Mohammed
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Theme answers:
- MEALS ON WHEELS (22A: Cookbook for rotelle lovers?)
- ELBOW GREASE (27A: Olive oil for a macaroni salad?)
- GET BETWEEN THE SHEETS (45A: Advice for saucing a lasagna?)
- RIBBON CUTTING (55A: Running fettuccine dough through the pasta machine?)
- SHELL STATION (68A: Self-serve spots at pasta bars?)
- SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL (80A: Kitchen disaster with rotini?)
- BUTTERFLIES / IN YOUR STOMACH (100A: With 108-Across, aftermath of a farfalle dinner?)
Gomoku, also called Five in a Row, is an abstract strategy board game. It is traditionally played with Gopieces (black and white stones) on a Go board. It is played using a 15×15 board while in the past a 19×19 board was standard. Because pieces are typically not moved or removed from the board, gomoku may also be played as a paper-and-pencil game. The game is known in several countries under different names. [...] The name "gomoku" is from the Japanese language, in which it is referred to as gomokunarabe (五目並べ). Go means five, moku is a counter word for pieces and narabe means line-up. The game is popular in China, where it is called Wuziqi (五子棋). Wu (五 wǔ) means five, zi (子 zǐ) means piece, and qi (棋 qí) refers to a board game category in Chinese. The game is also popular in Korea, where it is called omok (오목 [五目]) which has the same structure and origin as the Japanese name. // In the nineteenth century, the game was introduced to Britain where it was known as Go Bang, said to be a corruption of the Japanese word goban, which was itself adapted from the Chinese k'i pan (qí pán) "go-board." (wikipedia)
Shoegaze (originally called shoegazing and sometimes conflated with "dream pop") is a subgenre of indie and alternative rock characterized by its ethereal mixture of obscured vocals, guitar distortion and effects, feedback, and overwhelming volume. It emerged in Ireland and the United Kingdom in the late 1980s among neo-psychedelic groups who usually stood motionless during live performances in a detached, non-confrontational state. The name comes from the heavy use of effects pedals, as the performers were often looking down at their pedals during concerts. (wikipedia)
- 12D: "La Bohème" subject (AMORE) — French title really threw me, since the answer is Italian. But of course the opera is Italian, so ... fair!
- 7D: Texas metroplex, to locals (DFW) — Dallas-Fort Worth. Their metro area has roughly the population of New Zealand, so we say "Dallas-Fort Worth" a lot in this house as shorthand for NZ whenever its relative smallness (population-wise) is at issue (my wife is a Kiwi, in case you somehow didn't know :)
- 93A: "Ugh!" ("GAH!") — OK, gonna say this is borderline unfair, considering the "G" cross is a game I've never heard of, and I'm probably not alone here. I was able to infer the "G" because I know that "Go" is a game, but GO BANG!? Even the wikipedia entry doesn't call it that until like the third paragraph, and even then wikipedia suggests that the name is chiefly British (see "Word of the Day," above). Bizarre. Seems reasonable to guess "BAH!" here, given the clue, but again, I think the genuine fame of "Go" keeps GAH / GO BANG from being a true Natick.
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The way it works is: 25 clues in each puzzle are definitions taken directly from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (way more fun than it may sound like at first). They begin with 25 different letters of the alphabet; when you're done solving, the one letter of the alphabet that doesn't begin one of those words is that week's "Missing Letter."
Submit that Missing Letter for a chance to win a $25 gift certificate to M-W's site (the solving app keeps track on-screen of which letters you've already used, so there's no cumbersome aspect to determining the missing letter when you're done).
Anyway, give it a shot here:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/games/missing-letter
Deadline to enter is Sundays at noon ET. Good luck!
Lollapuzzoola, a summertime crossword tournament in NYC, is celebrating its "Sweet 16" this year with a party-themed puzzle extravaganza. The event is hosted by Brian Cimmet, Brooke Husic, and Sid Sivakumar with puzzles from over 25 of the best constructors in the business. Join the live puzzlefest in New York on Saturday, August 19, or choose to solve from home via downloaded PDF or snail mail. Visit www.bemoresmarter.com/lpz2023 to read more and purchase tickets.
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110 comments:
thank you so much for the write up!! and for delicately stepping around the near quadruple OUT dupe :))
Since I got the answer to 100/108 across right off the bat, I decided to solve this "Themers Only", literally. (I did have to glean some crosses here and there, but didn't bother to write anything in. See avatar photo.)
Sheets
Ribbon
Spiral
Butterfly
Completely stuck on the G in Gah/Go bang. Solved only by trial and error on the official app.
Average Sunday; took a while to get through. And then I had not one but two errors!
1) At square 87, UMH crossing MOTEL RATE.
2) At square 93, BAH crossing BOBANG.
Both easy defensible mistakes; frustrating, but thank gof I don't worry about streaks for the crossword (unlike Spelling Bee).
Typeover on aisle 11 across! For the heck of me, couldn't remember what's in a Bloody Mary... TOMATO didn't fit but CLAMATO did... briefly.
I'm really tired of "[TV show I've probably never heard of] airer" clues. Even if I DID watch the show, why would I remember the network? Surely there's a less tedious way to clue these annoying but unavoidable initialisms.
[Spelling Bee: Sat 0, last word again a difficult 8er that I typed without knowing what it means. QB streak 10 days!]
And yet again an otherwise pleasant puzzle is completely spoiled by a PPP chunk with several naticks. Either you know "SUZEORMAN" or you don't, and as I don't (and don't even want to), now I have to make wild guesees about three crosses: STEM, SHOEGAZE & NEOPET. I got two out of three, which means DNF, but even if I 'd guessed all three correctly I stl would not feel good about this puzzle.
SHOEGAZE? That does it ... I gotta get out more.
Nice one. I was just listening to the interview with the great Michelle Zauner of Japanese Breakfast on The FADER Uncovered, podcast with host Mark Ronson, and they were talking about Shoe Gaze. I'd never heard of it. And then here it appears. Coincidence?
I have never been more effectively pandered to in the nw than I was today. MOMMIE Dearest and SHOEGAZE? Tied together by MOCHAS and MANATEE?? That whole corner did everything but call me out by my government name.
I believe farfalle is literally the plural for BUTTERFLY in Italian, which is more whimsical albeit less formally dressed.
Italian solver here. I learned that bowtie = a kind of pasta from crosswords, but the word FARFALLE itself literally means "butterflies". So BUTTERFLIES/INYOURSTOMACH went right in.
My time was squarely in the "medium" camp but I solved first thing in the morning and blanked on a few answers that were easy in hindsight. So Easy-Medium seems just right.
The hardest section for me was the middle W. No idea about SHOEGAZE, I ended my solve on the Z. My biggest screw-up was NEGEV (...) off the E in STEM, crossing EGEST.
Favorite clue: BRIEFS. I'm sure many others thought they got the trick immediately, thinking about dogs.
Least favorite clue: MUGS. I figured it was related to MUGshots with "dads" being some criminal-related American slang...? Nope, there are "WORLD'S GREATEST DAD" mugs out there. I would've clued it with "world's greatest dads" in quotes, instead of a question mark.
Re: Word of the Day: I knew GOMOKU, and I wanted GOMOKU. I don't think I've ever seen it called GOBANG.
Mostly easy except for the part where I confused a rUBeN with a CUBAN for way to long. SHOEGAZE (a major WOE) didn’t help. Pasta puns work for me, liked it. A fine debut.
Liked all t puns except $%A Agree with Re that "get" sounds wrong/added/made up.
Had to look up farfalle to understand butterflies in your stomach, but liked
it once I got it. And butterfly was what came up when I googled farfalle. No bow ties.
Had to cheat to get Nytol Never heard of it. Wanted NyQuil, thinking it might be spelled Nyqil but that kept me stuck on 73A and 79A
Remember a number of fads like pet rocks, Chia pets or (Chia something) but neopets totally unfamiliar term and did not remember Suze Orman so struggled in that area.
Do not understand "forum" for 19A Collection of threads.
Can someone explain?
Umh/Motel seemed right to me
Who can tell me what the III/sick business is all about?
Welcome to Natick
GOBANG yourself
Yes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-5Xgw6d3h0
Ha! My pleasure. Congrats on your NYTXW debut! —RP
Didn’t know SHOEGAZE. Didn’t know TWEE. Didn’t know GOBANG. Initially had BAH instead of GAH. Ergo, spent too long trying to figure out why I wasn’t getting the happy music, before finally solving.
@Lynne: Ill is hard to decipher because the first letter is a capital "I" (as in "item") and the following 2 letters are lower case L's ..hence "ill".
@SharonAK: a forum is a website where people post comments. A sequence of linked posts is a thread.
@Lynne, 3:49 AM: It's not III, it's Ill as in ill, as in sick.
I have to agree with everyone on the BAH-GOBANG cross. Hung me up for a spell. I was less flustered by GETBETWEENTHESHEETS than Rex. Always a little wary of the singular "Unpaid debt" - is ARREAR (vs ARREARS) actually ever used? Loved "Competition for boxers", at first thinking something about a bout?
Sadly, I will not be able to attend Lollapuzzoola (daughter is visiting us from out of town), but I also strongly encourage folks to join.
Outstanding debut. Four things stand out, IMO:
First, originality. While a pasta shape theme has been done twice before (by Stella Zawistowski and Gareth Bain), in both instances the execution was straight-laced, where the revealer was PASTA and you had to figure out that it was pasta shapes that the theme answers (such as ELBOW GREASE) had in common. But Manaal made the theme so much more fun by letting us know the pasta connection right from the first theme answer, and we had to uncover funny answers. A marvelous touch.
Second, freshness. There were 14 NYT answer debuts. Fourteen! Third, a well-scrubbed grid, as Sundays go. Given that Manaal was mentored by Sam Ezersky, points two and three would be givens, as those are qualities that his puzzles are known for.
Fourth, and most notable, IMO, is personality, that je ne sais quoi that puzzles either have or lack, and it felt strong to me, making me hungry to see more from Manaal.
I also liked the mini-theme of one-syllable sounds emitted by fauna: OOH, UHH, BOO, GAH, BAA, COO, ARF.
Brava, Manaal, congratulations on your most impressive NYT debut. Thank you for a splendid outing!
Ill is the word ill, as in sick. 🤒 The problem, of course, is the stupid sans serif font.
Thx, Manaal, for the crunchy Sun. puz! 😊
Med.
Not really on the right wavelength for this one. Surprised my time was avg.
Dnfed at the 'uGh'/'board game' cross; tried 'b', then 'p'. Didn't think of 'G'. :(
Otherwise, an excellent workout.
Enjoyed the adventure! :)
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Matthew Sewell's Sat. Stumper was a doozy (5 x NYT Sat.). An uber satisfying solve, with one cereal related word that sported fair crosses all the way.
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On to David Balton & Jane Stewart's acrostic on xwordinfo.com
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity ~ & a DAP to all 👊 🙏
I was another naticked by the G in the GOBAND/GAH cross. I initially guessed bAH for the "ugh" clue, which to me felt a better fit than GAH, but figured out GAH quickly enough when I didn't get the completed music. I perhaps should have realized a connection between GO and GOBANG.
To Rex's write-up, I've always considered Cocteau Twins dream pop -- I guess I'm a genre splitter instead of lumper that way. My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive, etc., were all shoegaze bands to me. Lush kind of split the difference, more on the side of dream pop, and Cocteau Twins were pretty much the definition of dream pop. I found shoegaze more distorted guitar heavy, and dream pop more ethereal. Fun fact: Robin Guthrie produced an album of a Hungarian indie rock band I played and recorded with in the 00s. (Unfortunately for me, it was the album immediately after I left and moved back to US. Those were some fun days.)
I agree that some of the theme clues seemed a bit forced. The GET in GETBETWEENTHESHEETS felt arbitrary. Incidentally, BETWEENTHESHEETS was the name we used for the card game Acey-Deucey growing up. That was one evil gambling game that would soon part you from you money with the littlest bit of bad luck. Even a sure-fire "win" like 2-K has ten cards that could bust you, or about one-in-five. I saw many kids lose significant chunks of their saved up allowance or work money playing this game. On the other hand, a good lesson about gambling and odds if you learn from it.
I don't like referring to a Cuban as a ham-and-cheese sandwich. Isn't this like the second time this year with that clue? A croque monsieur, sure. But a cubano? Roast pork is the most important element of that sandwich, IMHO. Or at least equally important. It's equivalent to calling a Monte Cristo a ham-and-cheese sandwich.
@Lynne - Is it the sans serif that is confusing you (and it is confusing now that I look at it again.) It's ILL-SICK not III-SICK. Either that or I'm not understanding your question (or missed your joke, which is cute, if so.)
ill or ILL 😷 confused me as well
Excellent puzzle apart from the GAH / GOBANG Natick, to which I say, bAH (joining the chorus).
As for AMORE . . . Last weekend Mrs. Freude and I saw two operas at the Glimmerglass Festival. Gounod’s Romeo and Juliet, set in Italy and sung in French, and Puccini’s La Boheme, set in France and sung in Italian. Maybe all opera should be translated into Esperanto.
Between he carb load and the fact that as hard as I try I can’t recreate the homemade pasta my mother made nearly every day - I haven’t eaten it in years. I did like this puzzle however - maybe lacking a little on the corn but I thought nuanced and well filled.
If you didn’t know SUZE you’ve never watched PBS. Somehow tapped GOBANG from deep but I understand the cross problem. Ate roti Friday night with friends from Kerala and a wonderful errisery. Liked the TABASCO cross.
Nice to see our SB friend ACACIA. I always thought HOT YOGA was something out of the Kama Sutra. MEDICI, WREST, THE USA etc all solid.
Pleasant Sunday solve.
The big guy nailed it with MBV - but I’ve always liked Catherine Wheel and of course the originators before it was a thing.
I really agree with @Lewis’s fourth point, that this puzzle makes me really want to see more from the constructor. Yes, there were some reaches, yes there were more plurals of convenience than I’d prefer, yes the G in GOBANG wasn’t fairly crossed.
But it was also playful, and silly, and had some really fresh words and phrases. I thought the dupe clue “low digit” for TWO and TOE was so cute. I got to remember that NEOPETS existed and to learn that ACACIA is the source of gum Arabic. Basically, a breezy-yet-interesting Sunday solve experience. Congrats on your NYT debut Manaal!
Naticked on TORO / IRONIC. Had IcONIC in there (which Gift of the Magi is, in my opinion), and I don’t do sushi so TORO or TOcO…meh, how would I know?
Enjoyable theme - you can actually think them through and make progress without having to discern every single cross - which is way better in my opinion than the themes that are overly cryptic just so the constructor can jump up and say “Look at me!”.
Thanks to those who have clarified the III -> SICK situation, I was in the dark on that one as well. The low points for me were SABRA (are people really loyal to their brand of Hummus?), and its neighbor GAH, which is basically unclued (and not even really a word) - I’m surprised that when stuck they didn’t resort to their tried and true method for dealing with such a situation (just find a random foreign language that it actually means something in). C’mon guys - GAH has to mean something, somewhere.
Interesting that they doubled down on the GENRE’s today with another one as an answer, and the word itself made an appearance. Hopefully they will run out of GENREs at some point and they can go on to find some other way to torture me.
I thought the pasta puns got better as the puzzle progressed. I agree that the “ON” doesn’t really work for the clue in MEALS ON WHEELS and no one (even in the Wackytown trattoria) would tell you to GET BETWEEN THE SHEETS when saucing lasagna. But I absolutely loved SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL and BUTTERFLIES IN YOUR STOMACH. (I did know that farfalle means butterfly.)
Trying to think of other pasta shapes that might work here. “Contorting penne into knots” for TYING YOUR TUBES? “Crackpot personal ravioli maker” for THE MY PILLOW GUY?
COPYPASTA from earlier in the week would have fit well today.
Like an earlier Anonymous, I was expecting “competition for boxers” to be some kind of dog show - I did not fall for your pugilistic misdirection! I loved it when the answer was BRIEFS. Unlike the same commenter, I thought “keepsake for some of the world’s greatest dads” was excellent for MUGS and putting the phrase in quotes would ruin it. I’m sure my Dad probably had a half dozen of those. And I loved TWO and TOE for “low digits.”
HOT YOGA would be hellish torture for me. I can’t manage more than a few minutes in a sauna, and the thought of staying in there for an hour contorting my body makes me shudder. I’d rather do yoga in a walk-in freezer.
ill
Internet forums have threads of discussion.
Thought this was a fun puzzle. Had to look up some of the PPP as my brain does not remember proper names very well, so I just live with that shortcoming. Really like the range of comments today, from @Rex’s literalist approach to@Lewis’s appreciation of the whimsical theme execution. SHOEGAZE and GOBANG were news to me, let’s see if it pays to (try to) memorize them…
Wanted cocaine for party lines. But this is the NYT so it didn't fit.
GAH BAH BLECH!
Lollapuzzoola was in-person last year.
Sure! A forum in this context is an official web application implementation where folks gather to discuss things, exactly like what we’re doing here, commenting included. One can start their own ‘thread’, which is often a question and others reply. Forums are often started around a product or larger idea, often used as a customer service tool. Therefore a forum is a collection of threads. Does that help?
It was a fun theme, and felt unusually tight for a Sunday. I share Rex’s quibble with MEALS ON WHEELS but otherwise I thought the clues/answers held together well, and the theme saved the best for last with the BUTTERFLIES. The rest of the grid felt very fresh.
This started out super easy, but then I hit a bunch of road blocks. At that point it was slow going for a while, but bit by bit I sped up and ultimately it came together pretty easily. Some, but not a lot, of pizzazz in the grid itself, but I thought there were many very clever clues -- clever misdirects and good groaners. The themers I liked the best were the ones that (at first) stumped me the most. Overall, it turned out to be much more enjoyable than I thought it would be when I started.
@Lynne 3:49am - If you read the clue as ill, it should be more clear.
ill. :) Typography trick!
Got everything except the GOBANG/GAH cross. Interesting puzzle; I liked the fact that getting one theme answer helped get the others.
Loved SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL. By far the weakest themer was GET BETWEEN THE SHEETS.
Ugh is right for that GAH/GOBANG cross. When a puzzle is finely balanced between the good and the bad, one cross like that can stain the whole thing.
Miracle of miracles, I’m familiar with SHOEGAZE. When we lived in the UK in the mid ‘90s, Britpop was pretty much taking over but shoegaze was still holding on a bit. When Lush released Lovelife, shoegaze was basically pronounced dead. Though it was heresy to say so (at the time and in the crowd at work), I liked their Britpop sound better.
Lush – Ladykillers
Should change the title to Use your Natick.
I'm sure all you Mensa types that finished it before your coffee went cold will disagree but I'm just an average Joe struggling through a Sunday crossword. This was the most unsatisfying grid all year with a host of ten dollars words I've never heard. Shoegaze? Inspo? Suzeorman? Twee? Acacia? C'mon, how are us up in the cheap seats supposed to solve this? The worst part is I love pasta.
2nd time recently, that CUBAN has been clued as “ham and cheese sandwich”. And still awful. And flat wrong. A ham and cheese sandwich is, well, a ham and cheese sandwich. Walk into any deli/sandwich shop and order a CUBAN expecting a ham and cheese, have fun while you PIGOUTON a whole LOTTA sliced white pork, the distinguishing ingredient of a CUBAN. Maybe if clued as a sandwich “with” ham and cheese. Maybe…but nah.
Isn't it interesting how the human mind works? After all, not everyone leaps out of bed one morning thinking: "Eureka! I'm going to create a crossword puzzle comprised of puns based on the various shapes of different kinds of pasta!!!"
But obviously someone did.
Really great puzzle. Took me forever to get the first theme answer so I kept hunting and pecking until finally ELBOW GREASE fell. Then the other noodlogisms followed closely behind.
Loaded with great words and wonderful clues.
N-Ks: MOCHAS and ONRUSH were the last to wrap up. TWEE style? SHOEGAZE should be called "bad music that would disappoint your mom."
One letter error many of us will be trapped by: BAH for GAH seemed fine as a name for a game called BOBANG.
I count 13 "?" clues and that's 12 too many. And a dozen more "for short/in a way" comma-style clues.
Tee-Hees: BOINKS and GET BETWEEN THE SHEETS.
Uniclues:
1 Those in the drive-thru.
2 When income is higher than expense.
3 Opening of the "bulk mail credit card offer" department at the university.
4 Gas guzzlers.
5 My stomach before a performance.
1 MEALS ON WHEELS ROSTER
2 SUZE ORMAN THRILL
3 ALUMNI RIBBON CUTTING
4 SHELL STATION'S A-LIST
5 BUTTERFLIES TOTEBAG
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Kidnapper's duct tape. GIMME A SEC STRAP.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same
To paraphrase George Santayana, those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.
I knew that cake walks, but not that BUTTERFLIES.
Pretty dull fiesta if the most memorable lines are CONGAS and sin gas.
I’ve discovered the most absurd kealoa in the universe by using clamatO in my Bloody Mary instead of TABASCO.
Absolutely delightful debut. Thanks, Manaal Mohammed.
Good debut from an M.I.T. junior - congrats! No COPYANDPASTA from Manaal!
Makes me feel even older on my bday.
Yes, just a short three score and nine years ago, I came out…after being a biological male trapped inside a woman’s body. FREEDOM! And on a Friday the 13th, no less.
So Happy Augteenth to me! And impressive work, Manaal!
Hey All !
Responses to YesterComments -
@Dan - Fantastic!
@JC66 - Thanks!
@Whatsername - Awesome F use!
@M&A - M&Any thanks for M&Aking me M&Atter!
@Everyone else - I know you really wanted to wish me a HB. Consider it wished. 😁
Liked todays puz. Funniest one to imagine is SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL. Picture: You open the box of rotini, fumble it, it hits the ground, rotini flies everywhere! It scatters all over the floor, bounces up to the countertop, it's rolling around the floor, you step on it, crushing it into microscopic pieces, you slip on it, crash to the floor, arms flailing, sending more rotini flying in every direction. As you lay there in a stupor, you roll over to the cabinet, further grinding the rotini into your floor. Finally reaching the dustpan, you proceed to try to gather up all the far-flung rotini you can.
"My, my" you utter, sore from falling and embarrassed, even though no one is around, "those SPIRALs really SPIRALled OUT OF CONTROL."
Months later you still find a piece or two hiding under a cupboard.
What? No, nothing like that ever happened to me...
Fun puz, fun title, good fill, SunDebut. Nice all around.
Had the B at nAH/bOBANG. BOBANG could've been a game... Looking for one name with SU_EORMAN. Didn't know SHOEGAZE, so ran the alphabet, which obviously took 26 attempts! Aha, says I SUZE ORMAN. A DNF, which I count as one of I hit Check Puzzle to cross out my wrongness. Still fun!
Seven F's (Starting your puz making career off right! 😁)
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Well, at least today no one's whining about having to know Italian to put in AMORE. Yesterday I wrote a long note about how you weren't supposed to know about opera or know Italian (other than Amore, which thanks to Dean Martin we all know) to figure out that an operatic aria just might be about love. I didn't post, because I didn't thing anyone would appreciate my input.
When I looked at 1A I worried about the cries of anguish about having to know a city in Yemen.
The ratio of hits to misses in the puns was higher today than on an average Sunday, so that's a winner. OTOH, the puzzle contained SUZE ORMON, whom I despise but a little less than I despise most of the other charlatans on the PBS fundraising roster, those curing depression with kale, old age with bananas and a five minute walk every day, and achieving Nirvana with 3 minutes a day of deep breathing. Eat your kale and bananas, walk every day, do deep breathing exercise every day - you'll be microscopically better. Keep it up for a while and you'll be marginally better. That's all, but that's all you can expect to achieve.
@PeterP and @Fun_CFO
I'd forgotten (I did the puzzle last night) but I too thought: No, a CUBAN is NOT a ham and cheese sandwich!! It's much, much more than that.
Here's the description of a CUBAN from Bread and Wine -- a very good and not at all expensive restaurant right near me:
"Cuban Sandwich. Grilled pork, ham, pickled cucumber, garlic, Swiss cheese & cumin lime sauce."
@Joe D (12:30 a.m.) Very impressive! I couldn't have done that, but then my mind's probably not as twisted as yours (pun intended.) Also, I'm not of Italian descent.
TWEE = Wes Anderson
Puzzle made me work for it but I didn’t mind. Who doesn’t love pasta?
Took me forever to understand 52A boxer. GAH!
I had a one letter error. I think O. Henry's story is ICONIC and didn’t know the sushi. Yes, it's IRONIC. And iconic for students of the short story….
@SharonAK, you are currently commenting on a crossword FORUM;) A place where LURKers abound.
Happy Birthday, @Andrew, right behind you in time for a Saturday doozy.
@egs - nice Santayana puns!
@Nancy from yesterday, I think: I'm pretty sure I used "cromulent" this week, and my inner voice questioned if I was using it correctly. Funny that I didn't realize it was completely made up in a Simpsons episode I remember well, although maybe that's what triggered the hesitation.
I didn't see the CONGA line, thinking of some kind of Canto, or Chant. It didn't help to be crossed by TWO Japanese words. Same bAH problem: I still remember RP in one of my first visits here railing against GAH - it seems to have been normalized.
Fun that BONKS and BOINKS both work as the same onomatopoeia.
Best discovery of something there was no way I was going to know as clued turn out to be something I know well enough: MOCHAS
Something I never noticed before, and wonder if everyone but me knew this:
To DON is to put a cap "on": To DOFF is to take a cap "off". Must be a puzzle theme in there somewhere...
I liked the dupe Cardinals' org clues, since I have to go through that process, with the extra tricky Arizona football version, having moved from St Louis. I personally think teams that move should have to change their names and erase their history. LA Lakers claim the championships from their Minneapolis days, but don't have George Mikan's jersey up in the rafters, hmmmmm.
Wasn't it SUZEORMAN who averred that Millennials couldn't buy houses because they spent too much on coffee drinks and avocado toast? Too bad they blew that 400 grand on impulse food?!?!?!?
Did they figure out how to make the "stash" dupe licit?
I have to mention the Life of Brian quote: We're the Judean People's Front; we hate the People's Front of Judea.
Thought this was a very good debut puzzle and an enjoyable Sunday all around! Hand up for the DNF/Natick on the G INTERSECTION OF GAH and GOBANG. For me the term GAH is a cry of frustration, i.e. “GAH! Why can’t I remember the name of that actor”! At any rate, I don’t associate GAH with “ugh” but maybe that’s my bad!
TIL that farfalle is more aptly called butterfly pasta and, in fact, learned it is called something other than bowtie pasta. Funny how you can live to a certain age and not know something that is pretty common. I also learned about the SHOEGAZE genre. I need to get out more like @Joaquin it seems. I DID think for whatever reason that the term was inferable given the clue but I wonder if navelGAZE was ever in contention for the genre name?
Thank you Manaal!
@Nancy – I think I have all these pasta shapes in my cupboard except for lasagne sheets. For spirals I have "fusilli", basically the same thing as "rotini" (the name depends on the brand).
I guess I slept right through the SHOEGAZE era.
Really enjoyed it except for the couple of Naticks already mentioned. Also had PENNESTATION before realizing SHELL. Congrats to Manaal on her excellent debut and only junior in college. You go, girl! Love women constructors!
@SharonAK 3:00 AM - I have a different take on this. I think forums per se are mostly a thing of the past. That was the term used for chat utilities back in the days of platforms like AOL and Prodigy, when there was an Internet but not yet a World Wide Web. But I'm just a boomer, not a techie, so I do not claim infallibility on this matter.
I would appear to be an outlier in this respect, but I think this was a boring slog. The one bright spot for me was 116A, [Some party lines] CONGAS. Congrats on the NYT debut and all, but too much of this sounded like fill from CrossFire with clues researched on the internet rather than actually having these words in one's own vocabulary. Nobody uses ARREAR in the singular (although it is in the dictionary as a singular, with the note "usually in the plural"). Nobody says ON POT. Nobody says GAH. And stuff like UHH, ITLL, WASIT...please make it stop.
Superb aria from the Marriage of Figaro (first verse only).
Non più andrai, farfallone amoroso,
Notte e giorno d'intorno girando,
Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.
Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.
etc.
You won't go any more, amorous butterfly,
Fluttering around inside night and day
Disturbing the sleep of beauties,
A little Narcissus and Adonis of love.
You won't have those fine feathers any more,
That light and jaunty hat,
etc.
Villager
Happy Birthday @Andrew!
If you look like your picture still, that's amazing!
I wasn't going to do it, but the pasta puns were too succulent. A fun time, though easy, except for the GOBANG thing.
Shoegaze is making a comeback, with great bands like Wednesday, Feeble Little Horse and They are Gutting a Body of Water.
The term originally referred to fans who stared at their shoes while seeing the bands play live.
Bah!
@mbr Thank you.
I see I missed some misstypes before I posted
I struggled with Shoegaze. Otherwise, I thought this was a fun Sunday.
Terrific debut, Manaal! Hope to see you again.
@egs --- hysterical today.
Has varnishkas ever appeared in a puzzle? They are the bow-tie shaped egg noodles that accompany kasha (buckwheat groats) in "kasha varnishkas."
Here's a pasta cartoon by Barsotti:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/38/3f/37383f489626588f279e2c14e2bcd1fd.jpg
Me too! I changed hotel rate to motel rate!
I changed hotel to motel!
@Mike 12:07 pm, yes there have been a few different terminologies. Today it's all "blog" and "post". But in the past I remember "commenting" in a "thread" on a "forum", and about 25 years ago viewing "newsgroups" on "Usenet" but I can't remember what verb we used for that.
As others have pointed out, cluing a Cubaño as "ham and cheese" is flat wrong. It's pork. Ham is cured (and usually full of corn syrup and salt too) whereas pork is pork. But, actually, the last time I had a marvelous Cubaño at Central Market in LA, it was made with goat meat as well as pork and cheese.
Maybe "ham and cheese" works in the Midwest or something; amusingly, it does remind me of a sandwich shop in Newburyport billed as a "New York Jewish Style Delicatessen" which, at the very top of their menu, had "Ham and Cheese on Rye." Cultural ignorance is a staple of humans, but it really seems to be out of place in a supposedly educated and proudly pluralistic society; let along in a "paper of record."
Sheesh.
And thanks, Rex, for the Lollapuzzoola link. Have fun & good luck to all those attending (I'll be "solving" at home).
Enjoyed this one a lot, as I'm a big pasta aficionado. But like many others, I got Naticked at the GAH/GOBANG cross. B seemed like a better choice than G to me.
Late again on a Sunday. Our choir is on summer break but an old friend was conducting today and she invited any and all to come sing, so I gladly did, and wound up doing duets with a soprano. At least the choir didn't outnumber the congregation for a change.
Late to the party has some advantages, as I now have a thorough understanding of threads and forums, how Ill means sick, and am appalled at how BAH and GAH can be used interchangeably, which is so unfair.
I'm also in the group that has never heard of SHOEGAZE. It's always interesting to find something like this that is totally unfamiliar and then find there are folks who not only know what it is but have favorite artists who practice this genre. We do get news of the outside world up here in NH, but if SHOEGAZE made an appearance, I missed it.
Saw what was going on with ELBOWGREASE, and went back and filled in MEALSONWHEELS, which I thought it was going to be from the letters I had, and not from the clue, which I too thought was pretty forced. The rest of the themers were acceptable, if a little uneven. BETWEENTHESHEETS was a tee-hee high school game, as the idea was to read a song title on the juke box and then add BETWEENTHESHEETS. Hilarity ensued, but there was never a GET in the phrase.
Congrats on the debut, MM. Make Many more like this, please, and thanks for all the fun.
Gah feels to me like a real stretch. it's not a word in the scrabble dictionary for example
Theme had some nice humor bits … always appreciated, in a SunPuz solvequest.
M&A stands in awe of anyone who debuts at the NYTPuz using a SunPuz to do it. Ah, the stamina of youth.
staff weeject picks: UHH. OOH. GAH. Primo grunt effects. INSPO gleaned from hearin all them sounds of students takin a computer science final exam at MIT, perhaps? Hopefully BOO and ARF would only qualify there, under unusually extreme conditions.
Rotini out of control sounds almost like a viable shlock flick plot. [M&A had a total blow-out pick for his FriNite schlockfest entry: "It's Alive!", starrin Tommy Kirk. His 1968 call-for-help film. BOO & ARF.]
PIGOUTON. BOINKS. ONPOT clue. Like.
Mysterious stuff: SHOEGAZE. TOCO [cuz we had ICONIC instead of IRONIC]. SABRA. GOBANG. Any albumtry by Playboi Carti.
Thanx for the fun, Ms. Mohammed darlin. Nice COPAPASTA debut [recent NYTPuz inspo].
Masked & Anonymo14Us
**gruntz**
Pretty good. Rex is being a bit nitpicky. The puns work out fine. Sometimes you have to think a bit then the light goes on. Nice work - and bravo on your debut NYT puzzle Manaal Mohammed.
GAH??? GOBANG??? had mOTELRATE/UmH. Did hard copy so wound up with 2 errors in an otherwise pretty easy puzzle. Gah!
@pabloinnh (1:33) -- Your high school game very much intrigues me since I'm wondering what song titles would provide the most "hilarity" when you add BETWEEN THE SHEETS. Hmmmm. Let's see...
"Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered Between the Sheets"
"If Ever I Would Leave You Between the Sheets"
"What Kind of Fool Am I Between the Sheets?"
"There Is Nothing Like a Dame Between the Sheets"
"I Am What I Am between the Sheets"
Anyone else?
@burtonkd and @Mike in Bed-Stuy…I think you are both kind of sort of right. This is only after me doing “exhaustive” research (not). Reddit is apparently BOTH a social media platform AND an Internet forum…aka sub-Reddits. As is Quora (yuck) and I think initially it was the concept of topics/threads up for discussion. On the other hand, I have NO problem calling Rex’s blog an internet forum since we can all discuss the puzzle and Rex’s take on the puzzle, AND each other’s takes on the puzzle. AND…you CAN comment/discuss as an “anonymous.” They used to be called “message boards” and it almost seems like (from what I gleaned) that all one needs to be a “forum” is to provide moderation (a moderator) for the comments. At any rate, yes. I think Internet forums were a novel concept in the early days and today there are many Internet forums so the term seems old-fashioned.
@Roo…sorry I missed saying Happy Birthday! @Andrew, if I were fair to @Roo I’d wait to wish you HB tomorrow but…life isn’t fair! Happy BDay!
I would not have been surprised to learn that the Wiki entry on Shoegaze was posted yesterday by this puzzle's constructor. That has to take a prize for obscure clues.
Can anyone help me understand the constructor's posting above re "delicately stepping around the near quadruple OUT dupe :))" ... ?
@Georgia
76A, 80A, 111A, 81D.
@Roo 12:19 - thanks for the bday greeting (and belatedly a happy birthday to RooToo - wait, isn’t that a nickname for a Star Wars robot?)
Sadly, the pic is from a score ago, when I was a stone lighter. (Isn’t score/stone a MUCH better way to say 20 years and 14 pounds?)
Still, I will aver/avow that my graphic representation is at LEAST as accurate a depiction as the macho Rex caricature is. And since this is the only site on which I use blogger and I don’t have a memorable “handle” (if that’s what one still calls it), don’t want the others named Andrew to get any automatic Ugh reactions! :)
There are 4 uses of “OUT” as a single or compound word in the answers. 76A: OUTLAW; 80A: SPIRALS OUT OF CONTROL; 111A: IN OR OUT; 81D: PIG OUT ON
Too many “outs” in proximity? OUTlaw; OUT of control; Pig OUT; In or OUT. Maybe?
@Nancy-
Since we were all in high school, the lead-ins I remember most are
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction and
Help!
Clearly there are about a zillion of these.
I had both of these issues as well. Fixing umh/motel came rather quickly but I the Gah/Go error added about 15 minutes of staring at the board looking for an issue
I'm much happier with today's puns than with yesterday's COPYPASTA.
Is this another meta puzzle? Yesterday we got COPY PASTA and today we get a bunch of other pasta.
I wondered if I would be the only one and judging by OFL's blog and comments, it looks like I am. The clue "Olive oil for a macaroni salad" didn't fit the answer ELBOW GREASE for me. In my cooking world view, oil and GREASE aren't the same. At room temperature, oil is a liquid while GREASE is more of a paste or semi-solid that must be heated to become liquified. And the quintessential GREASE to me will always be something you can PIG OUT ON, i.e., lard, aka rendered PIG fat.
And what's the purpose of having all those different shapes of pasta? If you had rotelle one day, macaroni the next, spaghetti the next, farfalle the next, and so on, you still just had pasta every dang day, right? Are those different shapes attempts to trick people into thinking they are getting a variety of different foods? Psst, it's all just pasta!
Okay, I'll go over and stand in the other corner by myself again today.
A belated hbd to @Roo and an on time hbd to @Andrew!
@Beezer, in case you needed any more evidence of your mind working in similar ways to an internet stranger, I almost held off on wishing both Roo and Andrew happy birthday so I could be fair and belated for them both. But then I would run the risk of not remembering tomorrow…
Anyway, happy birthday, you two.
GAH is definitely not a thing. For the love of all that is good Will Shortz needs to put a stop to that
Sounds like she expected people would complain about too many outs (I remember pig out on and in or out- crossing so there are 2 others) in the puzzle but Rex avoided the subject (which he often wouldn’t!) so she said thanks.
You have a point. I happened to know of Suze Orman only because my local PBS station uses her videos for fundraising.
( I also somehow remembered neopets) Shoe gaze and her crossing were pushing it.
However, you seem to imply STEM is obscure, if I read you correctly. It has been in the Times before and I have seen it in the news often. Frequently used when discussing encouraging girls to get into science tech engineering and math. It is nothing like a natick.
Four answers, inorout/ outlaw/ spiralsputofcontrol/ pigouton all contain *out*. Usually that much duplication ("duping") is a problem. It was a good puzzle though (IMHO) and perhaps that's why Rex wasn't worried about it.
Excellent debut puzzle! Such fun clueing - “Tom callin’s” and “competition for boxers” deserve consideration Lewis’s top five list.
Maybe age thing. But as a Boomer child I had it drilled into my head that his short story was IRONIC. Teaching us what the word means and all that. I would argue that precisely because he was such an iconic author for irony this is not a natick.
Toro has been in the Times fairly often and it often comes up in articles about Japanese food. It is not that obscure.
A tough cross for many but not a natick.
On tonight's episode of "Historical Coincidences": 1972
On March 14th, 1972, The Godfather premiered at the Loew's State Theatre. The film was widely released in the United States on March 24th.
In Billboard Magazine's March 25th edition, the song that ascended into the #1 position on the Hot 100 chart, for the first of three weeks, was:
A Horse With No Name Between the Sheets
Coincidence? You decide.
•••
Belated Happy B-Days to @Roo and @Andrew!
Agreed. There should be a "Don't say 'gah'" bill
Am I missing something? I don't get how "x" is the BASE in x2. Even if the 2 is supposed to be a subscript, the "2" is the BASE, not the "x".
On another note, the "go" in "gomoku" is unrelated the the game "go". It is simply the Japanese word for "five". The two words are unrelated homonyms, just as the two games are unrelated except that they are played on the same board, like chess and checkers. "GOBANG", whatever it is, is not a Japanese word.
Maybe it seems more common than it is because it bugs me so, but I really “ONPOT” would disappear before it becomes an overused crossword phrase that never appears in the real world
Pearls are measured by size (in millimeters), not by carat weight….
AMATEUR LOINS FORUM (GOBANG)
SUZE will GOMAD for A THRILL -
HOT AMORE ON THE streets.
SHE'LL GO OUTOFCONTROL and will,
BOINK them BETWEENTHESHEETS.
--- SARA MAE MEDICI
WASIT wacky? As much as ever I guess. Noticed at least TWO things: ASONE ONEACT; MEALSONWHEELS ONPOT ONRUSH. And ins and outs: INYOURSTOMACH INOROUT OUTLAW SPIRALSOUT. . .. OR: GOMAD GOBANG. SARA Barielles, ALIST.
Wordle par.
Gah does not mean ugh in my universe. Ugh is disappointed. Gah is excited, but I still should have gotten gobang, because I have a game of go in my closet that's gathering dust, and I should have remembered that go means five.
The best theme answer is "get between the sheets". Why???
Because almost everyone said it was the worst. Nuff said!
One other thing, the toro clue should have been Spanish bull, or lawn equipment brand. Two unknown Japanese things in the same corner is a bit much any day of the week for most people.
I finally got the puzzle. It spells out:
HAPPYBIRTHDAYRONDO
Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords
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