Egg dish with a lemon turnover / WED 8-23-23 / Ones with chiseled jawlines often / Salad dressing with chopped liver / Sandwich with wild rice / Capital that was once part of Denmark / End of a two-player Harlem Globetrotters play

Wednesday, August 23, 2023

Constructor: Michael Lieberman

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: Don't eat that! — theme answers are food items clued as if they have an ingredient they would never actually have—that "ingredient" is instead found literally (in the circled squares) in each answer:

Theme answers:
  • BALSAMIVINEGAR (17A: Salad dressing with chopped liver)  (the word "LIVER" appears "chopped" up inside "BALSAMIC VINEGAR")
  • MONTE CRISTO (28A: Sandwich with wild rice) (the word "RICE" appears "wild" (i.e. mixed up) in the middle of "MONTE CRISTO")
  • PEACH MELBAS (48A: Desserts with split peas) (the word "PEAS" is "split" in two inside "PEACH MELBAS")
  • WESTERN OMELETTE (60A: Egg dish with a lemon turnover) (the word "LEMON" appears "turned over" (i.e. reversed) inside "WESTERN OMELETTE)
Word of the Day: ALANA De La Garza (33A: Actress De La Garza of "FBI") —
Alana de la Garza (born June 18, 1976) is an American actress. She is known for her roles as Connie Rubirosa on the NBC television series Law & Order in the last four seasons of its initial run, Law & Order: LA until the show's conclusion in 2011, and in Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. She also portrayed Marisol Delko-Caine on CSI: Miami. In 2014 and 2015, she starred as Detective Jo Martinez in the ABC series Forever. From 2016 to 2017, she starred in Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders as Special Agent Clara Seger. In 2019, she began starring as SAC Isobel Castille on FBI, a role she also plays on the spin-off series FBI: Most Wanted. (wikipedia)
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Gotta be quick with this write-up because I stupidly left my laptop charger plugged into the wall of my work office and ... well, I don't trust laptop batteries. My experience has been they tend to be almost fully charged and then all of a sudden they're near zero battery power and somehow there's no in-between. We're pretty good right now, so let's go. This theme has a couple of layers to it—the "what the hell kind of food item is that!?" layer and the "take it literally" layer. Maybe it's just one layer, but the fact that all the wordplay stays in the food realm is what gives the theme its icky charm. I wish there had been a way to lean into the disgustingness if not outright inedibility of some of these concoctions. I don't really know what a "lemon turnover" is, but I'm pretty sure if I found one in my WESTERN OMELETTE, the result would be GAGS (6A: Reacts to something gross). Ditto chopped liver in my balsamic or split peas in my peach melba. This leaves [Sandwich with wild rice], which actually sounds fine. The way it's worded, the rice sounds like a side dish, and even if the rice did somehow make its way into or onto your sandwich, you probably wouldn't gag, so the wacky food factor is not nearly so evident with that answer. I like how there's a different type of wordplay going on in each theme answer, and that the wordplay comes from absolutely ordinary culinary terms ("chopped liver" "wild rice" etc.). Thematically, this is solid. No complaints. 


Is BALSAMIC VINEGAR a "salad dressing" all on its own. I tend to think of it as a salad dressing ingredient—mixed with oil, at the very least. But maybe some people just dump it right on there, I don't know. The hardest themer for me to get was WESTERN OMELETTE, specifically the WESTERN part (which appears in the "western" part of the grid!). "Egg dish" = OMELETTE, which I had, but there's nothing in the clue that suggests "western," so I had to hack away at crosses to see what kind of omelette I was dealing with. Not hard, but somewhat slower going than other parts of the grid. 


As for the fill, a little too much crosswordese (EPODE, ugh), a few too many names (ALANA BALOO ADELE and on and on), and *way* too many TV networks. If you've already foisted TRU and MTV on us, why in the World would you also clue BRAVO as a TV network!? (51A: "Top Chef" network). The puzzle is already running way too hot on proper nouns; take the opportunity to staunch the flow when you get it! The longer answers today are solid enough. I really like DIALECT and RUBS IT IN, and I'm definitely going to need some SALTINES to cleanse my palate between the courses of today's menu. I struggled most with ALANA, who, like yesterday's ILENE, I'll apparently never remember. She's on a bunch of network crime shows I've never watched. I didn't even know there was a TV show called "FBI" (let alone a spin-off! ... my god, it's a whole damn franchise!?). I haven't watched network TV in what feels like a decade, at least. It's a big entertainment world that I know nothing about. I watch TV shows, and I am aware of many TV shows that I don't watch, but almost none of them are network shows. Just ... alien territory to me. Weird how, in my lifetime, ABC / CBS / NBC (and later FOX) went from virtually the only game in town to marginality and irrelevance (as far as quality is concerned—there's still an audience, obviously, I just don't know who they are). Of the eight comedies nominated for Emmys this year, only one ("Abbott Elementary") is a network show. And in the drama category: zilch.


Wrap-up:
  • 49D: Source of a scandalous comment (HOT MIC) — first answer: HOT TIP!
  • 26D: Capital that was once part of Denmark (OSLO) — first answer: MARK! (OK, hear me out. I think my brain read "Denmark" as "Germany" and then took "Capital" to mean "money," and then the "once" part suggested bygone money ... and there we are: the bygone German currency, the MARK. Ta da! :(
  • 19D: Off one's game (NOT ON) — this was an answer that I thought was NOT OK. That is, I did like the clunkily literal cluing ("off" = "not on"), and I also literally thought the answer was NOT OK. I wrote in NOT OK. Thank god that ALAKA was not a plausible human name (my apologies to the ALAKAs of the world!)
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. In 45A: End of a two-player Harlem Globetrotters play (OOP), the "play" in question is an "alley-OOP" (explanation here if you're unfamiliar)

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76 comments:

Anonymous 5:50 AM  

There is no such thing as an “oop”. I wish the Times would stop making up words. There isn’t any Chinese word “bao” for a steamed bun either. The correct word is “baozi”, but the Times makes that mistake too

Anonymous 6:24 AM  

I REALLY don’t like it when a trivia quiz masquerades as a crossword puzzle. I’m fine with a certain amount of geography (Regina, Mali) but give me enough obscure actors, sports figures, and TV networks and I just tune out. Too bad: the theme was fun but the fill killed it.

Anonymous 6:25 AM  

I don’t know about Chinese, but bao is fine in Vietnamese. It’s actually the name of my dog!

Anonymous 6:47 AM  

I’m glad it’s a word for steamed bun somewhere

SouthsideJohnny 6:51 AM  

I paid attention to the theme for a change and thought Wild Rice was a bit of an outlier - LIVER was chopped up, the PEAS were literally split and even the LEMON was “turned over”. The RICE seemed more “mixed” than “wild” though. Oh wow, I just dissected a theme a la Rex! Probably the only time that will happen this year.

I thought the center portion was a good example of an NYT PPP-hub with PEELE, BALOO, and ALANA and not much else. Hard to muster much enthusiasm for that kind of witty wordplay and creative cluing.

Anonymous 7:20 AM  

I liked the theme. I skipped at the theme clues at first because I knew there would be some tricksiness, but I quickly had enough crosses to see WESTERN OMELETTE and spotted the LEMON turnover in it. That helped me figure out what to do with PEAS and LIVER, which really sped up this solve for me. I’ve never heard of PEACH MELBAS, I’ve only ever heard of MELBA TOAST which I think is some kind of bland biscuit?

Oddly enough the last answer to fall for me was NOT ON because I just couldn’t believe it would be that simple. I kept thinking there must be some other trick there!

Son Volt 7:31 AM  

Definitely nuanced layers here - I liked the cryptic side and split peas the best. A little too straightforward for midweek but mostly well filled and clean. I can understand the plaint about too much trivia.

Keep the ARES/ARIES thing. SALTINES and ginger ale were stomach remedies as a kid. Liked ORNERY, HOT MIC and TREES.

From yesterday - I really like how @Roo begins everyday with Hey All! and how @M&A calls everyone dude and @LMS muse darlin. I like @Gill’s Monday redux and when @pablo talks about his grandkids. @JoeD and @Nancy provide the City elegance and Rex just slays day in and day out. I could go on - but it is a comfortable place here.

Pleasant Wednesday morning solve.

It’s Western swing and waltzes in Saskatchewan tonight

Lewis 7:36 AM  

I left this one in a very good mood.
• Smiles at the ridiculous food images the theme evoked, especially the chopped liver in the dressing and the split peas in the dessert. Plus, in addition to involving the visual, also involving the sense of taste – how many puzzles do that?
• Smiles at the wordplay in the cluing – “first lady” as Eve, “chiseled” jaw in a statue rather than a person, “pitched by the Rockies” being something non-baseball.
• Smiles at Michael’s skill in finding foods that contain other foods in mixed-up configurations – two pairs of theme answers, each with equal numbers of letters. Wow!
• Smiles at the ancillary perks. That rhyming last column of STRESS / WES / HESS. That rare-in-crosswords five-letter palindrome (NOTON), and the Boggle-style MOE (beginning with the M of MONTE CRISTO) to go with STOOGES.
• Smiles at the pleasure-work of conquering areas I had to return to.

Is that not a gift, to be escorted into a feel-good state? Thank you, Michael, for a most splendid outing!

Stuart 7:39 AM  

OFF = NOT ON is 😖 .

Andy Freude 7:47 AM  

Question for the commentariat: when was the last time you saw a Monte Cristo sandwich on a menu — and ordered it? Is the Monte Cristo sandwich now found exclusively in crossword puzzles?

What I remember from my distant past strikes me now as a heart attack on a plate.

Dr.A 7:57 AM  

Have you ever had Chopped liver? It probably would not be so bad in Balsamic Vinegar. Just saying, the stuff is absolutely delicious.

bocamp 8:07 AM  

Thx, Michael, for a fine Wednes. workout! 😊

Med+ (Thurs. time).

Felt pretty much on the right wavelength for this one; don't know why it took me so long.

Loved the STRESS clue!

Wanted Denver, but not enuf letters, so WESTERN it had to be.

Just recently had a 'chess' puzzle where my ROOK under protection of a pawn skewered an opposing unprotected bishop thru the their Queen.

Back in the day, played mostly DRAW vs 'stud'.

Fun and challenging adventure td; liked it a lot! :)
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Natan Last's Mon. New Yorker was relatively easy (med-hard NYT Sat.); the 'painter', 'chef' & 'pianist' all needed fair crosses, and they came thru for me. :)
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Dan 8:11 AM  

In northern Minnesota a “wild rice burger” is actually a cuisine specialty. Not a gross sandwich at all!

mmorgan 8:14 AM  

As many will point out, the salad dressing. Is balsamic vinaigrette, not vinegar. But close enough. Once I got the first themer, the rest came quickly, but I found parts of this puzzle strangely difficult. I think I enjoyed it.

CyC 8:14 AM  

Some fun answers but way too much TV in this one! Who is watching all these shows?

andrew 8:20 AM  

Tend to ignore the latter part of italicized clues showing wackiness, so had no problem using the basic clues today: salad dressing, sandwich, dessert, egg dish.

Elegy for EPODE and NYny for NYSE (assume GPS is The Gap’s stock exchange symbol?) but smooth sailing throughout.

[Thought I caught Mr. Peabody (aka know-it-all Rex) with a usage mistake wanting to “staunch” the flow, rather than “stanch”, but grammarphobia.com says either is correct:

Usage guides by and large prefer “stanch” as the verb meaning to stop or restrain a flow (as in “We managed to stanch the blood”).
“Staunch” is considered preferable as the adjective meaning loyal or steadfast (as in “He’s been a staunch supporter”).
However, the two words are often used interchangeably, though “staunch” is more popular, with four times as many hits as “stanch” on Google.]

Good Wednesday outing with trickery to be appreciated post-solve.

Escalator 8:25 AM  

Would be interested in a sense for how many people use google to help them solve the NYT as they go along or wait until the end and fill in whatever is left. No right or wrong answer, but I use google when I cannot solve any more clues on my own.

Bob Mills 8:37 AM  

Tried to ignore the theme, but noticed "lemon" spelled backwards and decided to use it. Clever stuff, I thought. It still took me forever to finish because I was sure "ear" was the source of wax, not BEE.

But I finished it without cheating...good for me.

MarkK 8:38 AM  

Somehow missed the circles and so the theme and longs left me really scratching my head. But now that I see the theme, I'm amused in spite my general dislike of cryptic crosswords.

And if Rex isn't watching any network tv as he claims, then I am extra impressed he included an absolutely delightful clip from the amazing show Abbot Elementary. Funny, charming, smart, and with a wildly talented ensemble cast.

Tip of the hat to BALOO. Now I'm gonna have Bare Necessities going through my head all morning.

JT 8:47 AM  

I expected positive comments about this puzzle...was surprised that the first few comments were so whiny. I agree with Lewis: This puzzle left a smile on my face. The SW corner took some time but by diligently chip-chip-chipping away and persevering I was able to get it. I'm happy with this week's puzzles so far, much more than last week's!

Chef (not Wen) 8:52 AM  

Balsamic vinegar is NOT the salad dressing. It is an INGREDIENT in that dressing known as Balsamic Vinaigrette along with oil, dijon mustard, honey, shallots, garlic and a sprinkle of salt & pepper. Bon appetit!

Anonymous 8:54 AM  

I felt the same way in the top half of the puzzle

Trina 8:55 AM  

Escalator - I only use Google when I am hopelessly, irretrievably stuck (cannot solve any more clues on my own).



EasyEd 9:00 AM  

Fellow Googler here. My (very) gray matter does not hold proper names well, and I rarely watch credits on TV shows or movies. Thought today’s puzzle fun, and actually used the theme to help in solving. Had to start at bottom—MALI and AVEC—to get traction, so WESTERNOMELET was early find and a breakfast I recently enjoyed.

mathgent 9:00 AM  

I thought Shanghainese was something like Spanglish, a fractured form of Chinese. But it seems to be an independent language along with Mandarin and Cantonese. A person who knows one can't usually understand another.

I liked that STATUEs have chiseled features.

The themers have a cryptic flavor. Tasty.

Anonymous 9:06 AM  

while i no longer have cable, there are still some very good offerings on network tee vee. and looking at the price of hulu and netflix i may very well go back to cable.

RooMonster 9:08 AM  

Hey All !
Got a kick out of the repurposed verbs today. "Wild" RICE. That got a chuckle. And LEMON turnover. Good stuff.

Liked this theme.

Got another chuckle out of 2D clue: First lady's husband. Put PRES in, even taking out the correct EMT I had. The crossers weren't working, so I was thinking, "What in tarhooties can that First lady's husband clue be?" Finally got another cross, which let the ole brain see it was ADAM, and laughed. "Aha!", says I, "THE First lady, not the first lady!"
You had to be here...

Just relooked at DIALECT clue. I thought it was Shenanigans, turns out it's Shanghaiese. Was wondering how Shenanigans led to DIALECT. Was going to call Shenanigans! on that clue. Har.

NO VICE - First lady's not wanting a second in charge? (Ouch!)
Got a mini stair step of EE in West-Center.
ASS - man, getting a lot of REAR LIT lately. 😁

The SB has had the F as the center letter twice within a week. *Pounds chest twice* Respect.
Speaking of SB: Got QB YesterBee!! WooHoo! That's twice in a month for me. Could explain the weird weather lately...

No F's (GAGS)
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 9:14 AM  

pet your dog for me please.

JT 9:14 AM  

Escalator - I use Google once in a while (usually on a Fri or Sat puzzle) if I know I won't finish any other way and/or am feeling impatient with a puzzle I don't especially like and am tire of chip-chip-chipping away at it. But I'm not one of the super-solvers on this site; I've gotten better and better at solving since I started several years ago, but the only puzzle I regulary do in under ten minutes is the Monday one. Wednesday usually takes me more like a half hour, and today it took forty minutes. Friday and Saturday usually take me an hour or more (those are always harder for me than Sunday).

kitshef 9:16 AM  

100% with Rex on the TV network overdose today. "Circles" puzzles are never going to be my favorites, anyway.

When the Oscar nominations come out, it is usually a couple of movies I've seen and a bunch of others I have not seen but know of. When the Emmy nominations come out, it is generally a couple of shows I have heard of but never seen, and a bunch of shows I have never heard of.

egsforbreakfast 9:18 AM  

I don’t know which is more dangerous, a HOTMIC or a BALSAMIC.

I like the revisionist take on Genesis with BABE and ADAM in the beginning. “Hey, BABE, don’t eat that forbidden fruit!” “Dude, you know I’m on the 5 Day Apple Diet!”

The constructor missed a good TeeHee (Hi @GaryJ) when needing a 6-letter word ending in GINA (11D) to cross ASS at 31A.

Nice puzzle, but awfully easy for a Wednesday. Thanks, Michael Lieberman.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:22 AM  

So I seem to be progressing in my crossword expertise. I thought this was easy-satisfying-fun. Yes, @Lewis, you're right, Michael Lieberman deserves my thanks for providing me with a moment of joy. I am notoriously slow at solving crosswords, and I don't mind that at all, but I flew through this one. Don't watch any of those TV shows, but, c'mon, there's only so many stations, and...crosses! I got the theme way early and filled in all the circles up front, which certainly helped. I liked the PPP. For whatever reason, I have always loved the music of the name BABE Didrikson (even though I have zero connection to golf). It's a little like the music of the name Phil Rizzuto (as with golf, I have minimal connection to baseball, but I'm well versed in The Money Store commercials of yore). Got ALANA and BALOO from crosses. Jordan PEELE by now shares the cultural divinity of, say Peter Gabriel back in the day. I could go on, but I'll just say: I would have clued STOOGES as [Moe and Curly, for two].

Nancy 9:27 AM  

Because there was some clever wordplay involved in the cluing of what's to be found within the randomly placed tiny little circles -- "lemon turnover" being especially nifty -- this is marginally better than the usual puzzle featuring randomly placed tiny little circles. But only marginally. My heart always sinks the minute I spot randomly placed tiny little circles in a grid because I know that 99.8% of the time it means that the constructor had a lot more fun and challenge making the puzzle than I will have solving it.

If I'd needed the embedded letters to help me solve, my experience might have been different but I didn't need them at all.

EPS????? For episodes????? Oh, please. Also, please tell me that the answer to "off one's game" isn't NOT ON. If this were "Jeopardy", that clue/answer would be surely be found in the "Stupid Answers" category.

Some other solvers want to get rid of quote puzzles or word ladder puzzles. They can be pretty awful too. But perhaps my top candidate for omission is the randomly placed tiny little circles puzzle -- almost always much ado about nothing.

Mack 9:51 AM  

I loved this theme. Figured it out the gimmick reasonably quickly so it made the rest of the themers pretty easy, but it didn't matter. It made me happy.

But hoo boy the rest of the fill was bad.

Rex hit a lot of the problems already, the most egregious being the names:
ADELE WES ALANA PEELE MARC GRINER BABE and probably more I missed. I suppose BALOO might count but he's always welcome in a puzzle.

Then the TV channels. Really? Three of them? All cable channels? One of which shows basketball played by college students? It might as well ask me what its got in its nasty little pocketsesss.

OOP and EPS are terrible "words" and TREES has a terrible clue.
And NOT ON? NOT ON? Oh sweet BALOO save us, for we have sinned in the eyes of an angry bear-god.

On a slightly different note, as a Minnesotan, I strongly believe the answer to "You betcha" is either YAH SURE, OH YAH, or OH FER SURE. All are acceptable.

@Rex, wild rice on sandwiches is definitely a thing, at least in the Midwest. You can get those weird Thanksgiving-style turkey-mashed potatoes-gravy sandwiches with wild rice, but more common are sandwiches made with cranberry-wild rice bread.

@Andy Freude 7:47 AM: They're definitely not common, but every so often I run across one. In fact, I gave my my 10 year old permission to order one recently just so he could learn from his mistakes.

Fun_CFO 10:20 AM  

Here for pile on of NOTON. Such a give up clue. If really, truly need NOTON (bad fill no matter what), in the grid, at least put some effort to the clue.

I’m fine with BALSAMIC. Salad dressing doesn’t need to be interpreted as a collective noun. Dressing a salad could be anything you use to dress a salad. And BALSAMICVINEGAR is perfectly logical. “Dressed with oil and vinegar” is common usage and both, in that sense, are dressings, they don’t need to be combined beforehand into a salad dressing. And I love a Caprese salad with just balsamic.

B+ on the theme, C on the fill for NOTON and abundant trivia.

Anonymous 10:22 AM  

That alone turned me not on to this puzzle.

pmdm 10:27 AM  

Did not get my paper delivered yesterday, so did not do the puzzle yet. Bummer.

As Mike noted, so much PPP in today's puzzle. No wonder that some whined about the puzzle. But the theme certainly was a gem. I guess not everything is black or white but sometimes gray.

And for those who don't understand what I mean by PPP, read the old posts by Z that he posted a while ago.

Gary Jugert 10:48 AM  

Goodness sakes another one square error hiding in plain sight. NOT OK for NOT ON making poor ALANA become ALAKA, but starlets come with all manner of spellings these days so seemed legit-ish.

I like this theme set. At our house we have the "good" balsamic (for company) and the not-so-good balsamic Gary gets. It's one of the few reasons I don't mind it when we have company, but after the caprese salad, I'm ready for visitors to go home.

OOP reappears. Perhaps, and this is wild speculation, the editors of the NYTXW spent more time at Princeton with their noses in books than attending basketball games? Last two years the team has a 70% win ratio. Go Tigers! Oop it up.

ELEGY is way better than EPODE, but it made the southwest wonky. I like the poetic final column. STRESS WES HESS is the BESST.

Somewhat off topic, but with AOC in the puzzle, maybe not. I am eating breakfast in an undisclosed location where I have no control over the TV and Fox News is playing ... their morning comedy show as near I can tell ... and you know who's on it? Kellyanne Conway. Did you know she's still a thing? Hilarious.

Tee-Hee: ASS.

Uniclues:

1 Slogan for urban campers.
2 My thoughts at seeing the TV this morning. (See above.)
3 Aids in mitigating nausea.
4 Why the gasoline bill is shockingly high.
5 Historic period when one-named entertainer had a headache.
6 We have Stone Hall Castle and you don't.

1 I SURE DO TENTS
2 BRAVO STOOGES
3 PASSES SALTINES (~)
4 NOT ON REGULAR
5 ALEVE ADELE ERA
6 REGINA RUBS IT IN

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Most offensive three-word phrase allowed in the New York Times. MOON EYE HOOHA.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Joe Dipinto 11:12 AM  

Pleasant enough, except for the TV channels. Three is excessive.

ISH Kabibble was a comic/cornet player of some renown during the big band era. He wore a bowl haircut like Moe of the Three STOOGES.

Apparently a MONTE CRISTO sandwich is more or less the same thing as a Croque Monsieur. Sounds good, but I don't know about wild rice as a side for it.

Fried Pies

jae 11:13 AM  

Medium. Just about right for a Wednesday. Smooth grid with a clever and amusing take on a familiar theme, liked it!

Did not know OSLO was once part/port of Denmark.

@mathgent & kitshef from yesterday. You reminded that a recent discussion on this blog led me to read Willa Cather’s “My Antonia” and “Oh Pioneers” (which I had somehow not read in the distant past). I enjoyed them both, so thank folks!

jb129 11:24 AM  

After solving (& coming here), I saw that it was clever, but it wasn't for me.

Whatsername 11:25 AM  

Wow! This is been a great crossword week so far. Another day, another sparkler. I was a little slow on the DRAW this morning and took me a bit to figure out the trick but once I did, what fun! Much enjoyed it but would have liked it even better with a little less trivia.

I was already thinking of an OMELETTE for lunch today and now I’m starving. Don’t think I’ll add any BALSAMIC VINEGAR but I do have a PEACH or two in the refrigerator which might make for a nice dessert. My brother has peach TREES and a good friend provides the fresh eggs. I am blessed with good food.

jberg 11:30 AM  

I was trying to figure out a rebus to make BALSAMIC VINaigrette fit, but then I noticed the circles and saw what was going on. I'd guess you'd call the theme clues "partial cryptics."

I overthought a couple of times -- for NOT ON, "Off" would have been a sufficient clue, so the sports mention made me go looking for something more specific. Even more stupidly, I was fixated on ear ornaments for the stud alternative, even though I had the D (which ruled out hoop, the only possibility). I ran through lumber and sexuality before I got to poker.

On internet searchs (I don't use Google, but it's all the same), that's how I found this blog; on the more obscure clues, it was often the first hit -- so I decided to start reading it, and have been here ever since. I no longer search for the NYT, but don't hesitate to do so for AVC when I encounter the latest slang or references to video games and the like. I figure it's educational.

Tomorrow we leave for a couple of weeks in Sicily; I don't expect to find the NYT there, and am not taking my computer, but I may try a puzzle or two on my phone. If not, I should be back around September 8.



GILL I. 11:32 AM  

OK, so this was my Wed solve:
It started with big ughs. The proper names!...TV Chanels...More TV and having TOSTITOS for 3D. I had exactly one answer I knew to be correct: ADELE. I love her. Not only does she have the pipes, she's funny and seems like a kind person.
So with that, I went to bed.
Pour my Peet's coffee in the morning and see if I want to even tackle this...
I do.
I LOVED THIS DAMN PUZZLE! Forget all the other things surrounding the theme...I don't care about you. But the theme! It was a wowser for me. I saw what you did at PEACH MELBA...I saw those PEAS being split and I let out a squeal of delight.
Go back to the top and see if I can figure out that chopped liver thing. Ooh, look! There's LIVER being all chopped up in BALSAMIC VINEGAR. Que clever. Erase TOSTITOS....Go on to the next theme...Hmmm, what can wild rice be? I stared. WOW...It's being wild inside of a MONTE CRISTO....
And so it went. I just filled in the theme answers and left everything else to sit alone.
Nah...I've come this far, let me finish this. I did. No help needed with the names.
I remembered BALOO and OBIWAN. I liked HOT MIC STOOGES. I smiled at ORNERY OOP....But mainly, I LOVED the theme today....

@Sun Volt 7:31... Thanks. My MONDAY frivolity!

Gary Jugert 11:36 AM  

@JT 9:14 AM @Escalator
Ditto. I almost never need to look anything up anymore except maybe Fridays and Saturdays and then it's almost always a TV star blocking me out. Some solvers here would rather leave a puzzle blank than "cheat," but I am always going to fill in every square and read every clue, and I am quite comfortable knowing I know very little of all that is knowable. And some puzzles aren't for me, and that's not NOTOK.

Gary Jugert 11:43 AM  

@Anonymous 5:50 AM & 6:25 AM & 9:14 AM
I pet my dog for all of you. Her name is Bailey. We're going for our walk now. BAO WOW.

Whatsername 11:53 AM  

@Escalator (8:25) My googling habits are similar to yours. I will fill in everything I possibly can until I’m down to a name or a thing I know I’m never going to figure out otherwise.

@Gary (10:48) I really don’t think KAC is still a thing other than on Fox while ironically, her ex is over on CNN giving the opposing view. Of all the Trump-ISH sycophants, I always thought she managed to come up with the most outlandish alternative facts. But of course there was heavy competition.

Anonymous 11:57 AM  

Amen!

mateo 12:04 PM  

"End" of the play is OOP. Beginning of the play is "alley". It's a little misdirection.

Masked and Anonymous 12:05 PM  

Nice twisted-menu theme. Musta been real hard to come up with a symmetric(al) set of themers like this puppy had.
Possible items from the reject pile:
{Enchilada dinner sides -- but hold the ice} = RANDBEANS.
{Manner of dessert wine, with red planet ice cream} = MARSALAMODE.

staff weeject pick: NAV. Better clue, a la this puz's theme: {Van backing up} = NAV.

Some fave fillins: ISUREDO. INES [I held the SALT]. STOOGES. RUBSITIN. GRINER. DIALECT and its clue.
@RP's MARK answer and justification.

Alarmin thing: No ?-marker clues, at all? At least the STATUES clue came close. Don't get too over-friendly with yer WedPuzs, Shortzmeister. Surely NOTON deserved a weirdball clue, at a minimum. Somethin like: {Thing to cross in the middle of the day??} = NO(T)ON.

Thanx for the fun, Mr. Lieberman dude. Way to sandwich stuff into yer themers!

Masked & Anonymo3Us


**gruntz**

Greendot 12:06 PM  

@Andy 7:47am…..three weeks ago! I ordered one for breakfast because I was just finishing a re-read if The Count of Monte Cristo….my very favorite book!!

Joe Dipinto 12:50 PM  

By the way, on the subject of BABE and DRAW, in the Styx recording that @Rex linked to, in the opening lyric

Babe I'm leaving, I must be on my way
The time is drawing near


Dennis DeYoung pronounces "drawing" as "draw-wing", with a distinct w sound in the middle. This has always bothered me (separately from the song itself, which I hate). Who pronounces "drawing" that way? Does he also say "the cat is claw-wing the furniture", or "this problem has been gnaw-wing at me"?

Tom F 12:54 PM  

So glad they included saltines to offset the gag inducing foods!

Anonymous 1:03 PM  

Like pulling teeth, but lotsa fun.

Anonymous 1:08 PM  

I don’t understand the answer to 13 down.

Allie C 1:34 PM  

imo BALSAMIC *vinaigrette* is a salad dressing, BALSAMIC VINEGAR is just an ingredient. Mix some chopped liver into that BALSAMIC VINEGAR though, now you've got a dressing going!

okanaganer 1:44 PM  

Def agree with Rex about too many names; that is my most common complaint. Today'a down answers up top: on the left the first 3, in the middle the birst 2, and on the right the first two, making 7 out of 13. Although it is nice to see Regina.

[Spelling Bee: Tues 0, finally! Last word this 6er.]

Teedmn 2:19 PM  

One of the vendors for the company I work for is an Italian parts distributor. They used to send us, at Christmas, some delicious Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese. One year they sent us some balsamic vinegar in a tiny bottle. It was so good, so sweet, I can only imagine it cost its volumetric weight in gold, hence the tiny bottle. You could definitely use it as dressing all on its lonesome.

Anonymous 2:22 PM  

I LIKE CROSSWORDS. I DON’T LIKE GUESSING GAMES. THIS PUZZLE CAUSES ME TO STOP DOING THE NY TIMES PUZZLE, AS OF TODAY. THE CONSTRUCTOR IS CLEVER. WHY DO I CARE? THE NEW YORKER PUZZLES ARE MORE FUN. GOODBYE FOREVER

Canon Chasuble 2:25 PM  

Some odds and ends:

1. Alley OOP was the caveman who “starred” in the newspaper comic pages of my childhood.

2. Mervyn Bogue was the “Ish Kabibble” in Kay Kyser’s Band

3. The dessert is almost always called “Peche Melba”, named for the great Australian soprano Nellie Melba.

4. Just a terrific puzzle. Thank you!

Anonymous 4:18 PM  

There is also no such thing as a single “tamale,” as my Mexican-born and -raised wife has let me know. In Mexican Spanish, the corn-husk-wrapped dish known on the plural as “tamales” is “tamal” in the singular. That doesn’t stop the NYT from running “tamale” periodically in its crossword.

pabloinnh 4:24 PM  

Greetings from the Maine coast. Everyone who was in Disneyland in Orlando is now here too. What are the odds?

Liked this one a lot, once I saw what was going on, and that sure helped with some otherwise way wacky answers.

Really just wanted to post today because yesterday was a QB, and now I see that @Roo and @okanaganer got there too, so we're all wicked smart. Yay team!

kitshef 5:49 PM  

@Escalator - for me, no Googling, ever. If I finish with errors or sections incomplete, so be it.

Anonymous 6:10 PM  

If we're talking about made up words - Chicago's mass transit system is the L, NOT the EL.

jae 7:21 PM  

@Escalator - I don’t Google but I will ask another human being if I get stuck. If that doesn’t help I take the DNF.

That said, when I first started doing these things around 20 years ago I wore out 2 crossword dictionaries to get to the point where I could solo. They helped me acquire a lot of stuff you mostly find only in crosswords...ETUI, ANIL, ARIL, AZO, EOS, EPOS, EPODE, AGRA, SLOE, WEN, ENOS, ESAU, ADZE, TENON, AMAH...to name just a few...

GILL I. 8:38 PM  

@Gary J from yesterday....I didn't have the time to do yesterday's puzzle but I always like to read all the comments when I have a minute. That long sentence just means Gracias and blush blush. Don't stop your Uniclue's....you might get a MOON EYE HOOHA.... ;-)

@Escalator 8:25. I always use Google. But then, I get distracted and read pages and pages of non-related things that I hope will come in handy somewhere down the line. So far, no luck.

Dusky Night 9:07 PM  

This puzzle made me gag mentally several times: too many recent names, too many TV stations-does the constructor really watch that much TV? A couple of good clues but mostly well, back to gags. It needed a palate cleansing.

Joe Dipinto 10:57 PM  

@Escalator – I don't google anything in the regular crossword. In the acrostic I might google to confirm an answer before I write it in – but only in such a way that, if I'm wrong, the correct answer won't be revealed to me. For example, if the clue said "Monument located in Agra", and I was 99.5% sure that the answer was TAJ MAHAL, I might google "Taj Mahal" to be 100% certain. But if in doing so I learned that the Taj Mahal was in Bangkok, I would not then look up "monument in Agra". I'd have found out that TAJ MAHAL was wrong but I wouldn't know what the correct answer was.

But I don't do that very often. When I do it's really to avoid writeovers, which in the acrostic can be messy and confusing more so than in the regular puzzle.

maverick 3:25 AM  

Lol, 4 of the 8 dramas nominated are from HBO. Not a ton of room for anyone else. (It even has a show nominated for comedy which is somehow almost as surprising to me, giving that I don't normally associated HBO with comedies (well shows that is, definitely stand-ups)).

Good writeup. On the tougher side for a Wednesday. Too many proper nouns. Decent theme. Passable overall.

Why not just clue it "Off"? I knew that was gonna be NOT ON, but refused to type it in at first because how stupid that clue answer pair seemed. OOP needs to be deleted from all word lists immediately.

Anonymous 3:19 PM  

If I'm remembering right, it has to do with the stressed (accented/strong) syllable in a word

Diana, LIW 3:03 PM  

Got the puzzle pretty quickly, but not the circled letters/words. Got LIVER, but then...PEAS and ?? Oh...LEMON turned over. Har.

And yes, NOTON did not seem like the brightest answer ever found. But there it was.

No stress here.

Diana, LIW

spacecraft 3:03 PM  

Cool theme with five different wordplays, a la British crosswords. Too bad we couldn't work in something about steak & kidney pie.

The fill could use some upgrading. I got the impression: wow, this guy sure watches a lot of TV! Agree about too many channels--and the superfluous BRAVO as clued.

It works out to a par, just like my Wordle score.

Anonymous 4:48 PM  

Enjoyed the puzzle. One of my favorite answers was NOT ON, because I know people on this blog would say that bites the big one. Also love all the comments about balsamic vinegar. I know several people who use straight up balsamic vinegar on their salads. Of course this is not your everyday balsamic you find at your local megamart. In fact you can find very very good and very aged balsamic that can be used as a topping on a bowl of ice cream, but it also is very very expensive.

Anonymous 5:33 PM  

Borderline fine. Nothing really good or really bad. Next!

Burma Shave 11:26 PM  

TENTS NOVICE

DO NOT say, "ISH", that RUBSITIN,
BEEing ORNERY will PASS,
ISUREDO wish I'dseeMORE SKIN,
if NOT, some REGULAR ASS.

--- GOV. ALANA PEELE

Brett Alan 5:41 PM  

OK, it's been more than a month since @Andy Freude asked, but prior to a recent diabetes diagnosis, I would order a monte cristo from time to time when I ate in a diner. I find most diners in NYC and NJ have it on the menu. It's usually quite nice.

And going back further, I spend time in Singapore, and everyone there calls a steamed bun "bao". Or sometimes "pau", just a different transliteration. There's even a popular chain called Bao Today. Never heard anyone say "baozi".

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