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Wednesday, July 12, 2023

Constructor: Brooke Husic and Brian Thomas

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: Days of the week — days of the week are represented by their three-letter abbrs., which appear, in order, at the beginning of seven theme answers:

Theme answers:
  • SUNNI (1A: About 85%-90% of Muslims, globally [1st of 7])
  • MONTALBAN (17A: Hollywood's Ricardo or Paolo [2nd of 7])
  • TU ES BELLE (26A: French for "You are beautiful!" [3rd of 7])
  • "WE DID IT!" (37A: "Yippee for us!" [4th of 7])
  • THUMB WARS (48A: Digital confrontations? [5th of 7])
  • FRIAR TUCK (58A: One of Robin Hood's Merry Men [6th of 7])
  • SATAN (69A: One with horns [7th of 7])
Word of the Day: Paolo MONTALBAN (17A) —

Paolo Montalban
 (born May 21, 1973) is a Filipino-American actor and singer best known for his performance in the 1997 Disney television filmRodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella as Prince Christopher, opposite Brandy as Cinderella. He reprised that role in a stage version of the musical with Deborah Gibson and then Jamie-Lynn Sigler as Cinderella and Eartha Kitt as the Fairy Godmother. [...] Montalban was named one of People's 50 Most Beautiful People of 1998. (wikipedia)
• • •

I feel certain I've seen this theme before, or something like it, but the grid is so sparkling and shimmery that I didn't have a chance to care. By the time I realized what the theme answers were doing, the grid had already sold me. I didn't really care what the "7" stuff was supposed to be about because I was just enjoying the ride. Which brings me to what is perhaps a point I should stress more often—the higher the overall quality of the fill, the less the exact nature of the theme even matters. I was like "okay, cool, a really bouncy mid-week themeless, let's go!" But then of course there was a theme, and the theme was a big part of *why* the grid was so good. That is, it's the themers that gave the grid many of its most interesting answers. SUNNI and SATAN are throwaways (though I like that they're both ... religious ... in their ways ... and that SATAN's just chilling at the very bottom, where he's probably most comfortable). But all the midweek stuff really lights up. TU ES BELLE is probably the biggest reach—you don't usually get foreign phrases of that length in a grid, so it seems like it could really trip up non-French speakers—and yet it's also the most inventive themer of the lot. Also, what the hell else are you gonna use for your TUE- answer? The only other things I can think of are also French phrases. "WE DID IT!" is a great, exultant little way to hide "WED.," and it makes a nice grid centerpiece. THUMB WARS made me laugh (haven't thought of those in years), and the clue on that one was especially nice (48A: Digital confrontations?) (your thumb is the "digit" in question, though you probably know that by now). And I learned a new MONTALBAN! Paolo was totally unfamiliar to me. But Ricardo! A mainstay of my childhood, both for his role as Mr. Roarke on "Fantasy Island," and for his earthy, sensual pitches for Chrysler. The phrase "rich Corinthian leather" is iconic. Look at him stroke that passenger seat! Purr about leather to me again, Ricardo! 


But the themers were only part of what gave the puzzle bounce. HANDHELD CASHBOX HELIXES DURIANS DATA DUMP NOURISH KWANZAA ... so many solid 7+-letter answers. Plus an all-star cast. Nicole KIDMAN! NATASHA Bedingfield! RUPAUL! The theme concept really doesn't seem like much, but the solving experience was overwhelmingly positive. Undesirable fill is rare, and spread out. All that in an easy mid-week package. Safe to say I ADMIRED this one.


No real trouble spots today. I can read French and I knew Ricardo MONTALBÁN, so I had a bit of an advantage with the themers, and all the puzzle's proper noun answers were well known to me, including Jacqueline du Pré, whose performance of Elgar's Cello Concerto comes up in a memorable scene in last year's Tár. Strangely, the part of the puzzle that gave me the most trouble was -ING (40A: English suffix equivalent to Spanish's -ando and -iendo). I had the IN- (!?!) and thought "well it's an 'O' or an 'A'"—clearly I was humming long so well that I wasn't thinking clearly. I was also having trouble coming up with the "G" cross (from SAGAS (31D: Major ordeals)—I think of SAGAS as stories, but they're stories full of challenges and troubles, which is how we get to the "ordeals" sense of the word, I guess). The other weird one-letter sticking point came when I had BO- for 27D: Stick for a 15-Across player and I hadn't solved 15-Across yet (CELLO)—I could not get BO- to be a "stick," largely because I assumed the "player" in question would be a sports player of some kind. I wanted BAT and ... well, nothing else. But getting that "W" for BOW didn't take long. This puzzle was closer to "Easy" than "Easy-Medium" for me, but I wanted to allow for the possibility that some of this fill might prove flummoxing to some solvers—the French and the DURIANS and the MONTALBANs, etc. Today I learned that Ricardo MONTALBÁN spells his name with the accent on the final "A," while Paolo ... doesn't. I also just discovered Madeline Montalban, and, well, I'm intrigued:
Madeline Montalban (born Madeline Sylvia Royals; 8 January 1910 – 11 January 1982) was an English astrologer and ceremonial magician. She co-founded the esoteric organisation known as the Order of the Morning Star (OMS), through which she propagated her own form of Luciferianism. (wikipedia)
Before I fall down a mid-century English occultist rabbit hole, I'm going to sign off. See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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80 comments:

Melrose 12:33 AM  

Didn’t grok the theme until reading Rex. Naticked on cross of AMA and EMO. Getting tired of all these Reddit clues, as I have no knowledge of that, but am thinking that I need to learn if only to help with crosswords.

GILL I. 12:58 AM  

Color me out to lunch. Oh wait....there's more......!
You see, This is how I first tried to figure this out. Mind you, I. finished and had a dumb grin that nobody wiped off.
I looked at SUNNI and then just below it was PROOF. So smart me said SUN ROOF! I went over to MONTALBAN and right below him was DURIANS. Et voila....TALIBAN! Can that be right? We get a lot of ASS and stuff, so I guess you could throw in TALIBAN? No?.....NO. This can't be right.
I came to my senses when none of the others made sense. I needed a napkin.
Sometimes I try too hard. I feel there's always a catch and I need to find it. I let myself sit in my favorite chair, put on my music and pour a small nightcap. I won't go to bed until I get this easy - not hard- puzzle. What's the trick?
Damn...there it is right in front of my eyes. Here I'm thinking DURIANS and THUMB WARS and KWANZAA all have hidden meanings when all it was was a simple and delightful run of the days of the week.
You know when someone tells a joke and everyone around you genuinely laughs and you just join in even though you didn't understand any of it? That was me.
I said delightful once and now I'll say it again. Once I could finish my ham on rye, I clapped. Just for me... because no one else can hear.
Bravo.....clap clap.

jb129 2:38 AM  

And I thought I was the only crazy who couldn't sleep!

Anonymous 2:54 AM  

Fastest Wed ever for me. But surely it’s “helices” as a plural?

jae 3:01 AM  

Medium. I needed a few nanoseconds after the solve to grok the theme. Delightful WED., liked it.

Did not know NATASHA as clued or how to spell KWANZAA.

@Rex - The G in SAGAS was my last entry.

@Melrose - I was hopeful that the Reddit clue would be pretty familiar by now, I’ve seen it in several puzzles lately.

CWT 4:41 AM  

I too found this easy and clever, although I got off to a bad start by entering “Arabs” at 1A. That was soon corrected by the crosses. While solving it I didn’t get the theme, but when I finished I just stared at 1and 2 and 3 and 4 and then came “AHA!”’ Altogether a clean, entertaining and pleasant Wednesday

Conrad 4:44 AM  


Liked it almost as much as @Rex did. DURIANS (21A) was a WOE and that D was the last thing to go in. At 50A I guessed NATAlie Bedingfield rather than NATASHA.

@Melrose: are there a lot of Reddit clues? The only one I can recall is AMA, for Ask Me Anything. If it's three letters and "Reddit" appears in the clue, just type in AMA and be done with it.

Anonymous 5:07 AM  

anyone else think there was a bit of a winter christmas theme going

RJ 6:12 AM  

Fast and fun for me. I remember the commercials, but more memorable is William Shatner screaming "Khaaaan!" at the top of his lungs. I'm older than Rex so Omar Sharif was the Ricardo Montalban of my youth (handsome and exotic).

Bob Mills 6:52 AM  

Finished it quickly without ever understanding the theme. One nit..the French word for "are" is "etes," not "es." So how can TUESBELLE be French for "You are beautiful?"

Son Volt 6:57 AM  

We definitely have seen this play before - but I liked it. The elegance of no revealer really splashes. NOURISH, FLAN, THUMB WARS are all fantastic. HELIXi?

Nantucket SLEIGHride

Phillyrad1999 7:02 AM  

Pleased to be in the group that couldn’t figure out the theme even after I completed the puzzle and grumpy at the same time so will pick at a couple nits. Yes it is absolutely helices. How does that get through. And while THU is an acceptable abbreviation for Thursday it is almost always THUR or THURS so insert raspberry here.

Anonymous 7:04 AM  

It can be either spelling

kitshef 7:05 AM  

FRIAR TUCK felt like a big outlier as the only themer where the abbreviation is not pronounced differently from the day itself. Soon/sun, Mon/mun, Tu-ay/Tue, Wee’d/Wed, Thu/Theu, Sayt/Sat.

Pretty darn easy for a WED, 'tu es belle' not withstanding.

Mack 7:29 AM  

Sigh
H E L I C E S

Also, me after getting MONTALBAN:
"Someone other than Ricardo? How intriguing! I'm going to look him up..."
...best known for his performance in the 1997 Disney television film, Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella

LOL ok 😂.
Stay cool with all these hip, relevant, and up-and-coming name drops NYT!

Anonymous 7:32 AM  

3:45 for me and I reach right out for my tablet and started the puzzle

Lewis 7:35 AM  

This was a grid with sparkle, answers that hit my happy button: HEFT, PESTLE, DATA DUMP, KWANZAA, HELIXES. Then there was the memory jog of THUMB WARS, which shot me back to my childhood thumb war era, something I haven’t thought about in forever. Now, as I look back on it, I can actually feel what it felt like to try to pull my trapped thumb out from under a clamping thumb.

The wordplay lover in me smiled at the semordnilap/palindrome presence. That rare-in-crosswords five-letter semordnilap (SLEEP) and palindrome (SAGAS). Even those two minor palindromes (AMA, TET). But the cream was having BAT and TAB in the same grid.

Then I started thinking of the number seven, and went down a rabbit hole on that front. Well, more like a rabbit divot, but still, some satisfying treasure:
• It’s a lucky number in our culture; unlucky in Vietnam.
• The number 999,999 can be divided by it.
• Colors in the rainbow, continents, seas, hills in Rome, dwarfs, and… find of the day!... the number of spots most commonly found on ladybugs!

So, B&B, your third collaboration was a charm for me, lighting up happy zones all over my brain. I’d rate your puzzle as a “Whee!” Thank you both!

Anonymous 7:42 AM  

@Bob Mills:

Je suis, tu es, il/elle est, nous sommes, vous êtes, ils/ells sont

Anonymous 7:47 AM  

3 of 4 online dictionaries I just consulted accept "helixes" as an alternate plural, just saying.

pabloinnh 7:54 AM  

Nice one! Caught on after SUN, MON, and TUES (@Bob Mills, TU ES, etes goes with vous, as a lot of folks are about to tell you). The other weekdays were helpful clues to a puzzle that was already going pretty fast.

Didn't know NATASHA as clued, had some trouble with a BOW being a "stick", and the only place I have seen DURIANS is in a crossword. The "ando-iendo" was a gimme for a Spanish teacher.

Hey @Roo-I'm claiming a twofer for us with RUPAUL. Maybe a stretch but I'll take it.

Really fun Wednesday, BH and BT. A Bit Harder and a Bit Trickier would have taken me longer, which I wished it had, because I was having such a good time. Thanks for all the fun.

Trina 7:58 AM  

BOB MILLS

I think it is “TU ES BELLE” (familiar tense) and “VOUS ETES BELLE” (formal tense). But it has been decades since my last French class!

Dr.A 8:00 AM  

Brooke Husic is great. She constructs for AVCX as well.

andrew 8:05 AM  

This was SO EASY and the theme was just a MEH “how ‘bout that” after a completion in near record time.

Only minor lags were spelling PESTLE PESTel and DNA for RNA.

MIA clue seems a bit flip for a term best known for a missing soldiers (heaven knows where THEY could be), too many easy gimmes and yes, the plural is helices.

Expected the puzzle to be hammered here - am I ALWAYS in the minority? Usually admire Brook’s work but this doesn’t even rise to UH OKAY.

Kent 8:12 AM  

Easy and fun. Near record Wednesday time for me. Rex identified the only potential trouble spots for me - TU ES BELLE and DURIANS - but the crosses were more than fair. SATAN was the last word in, looked for the religious connection in the themers but didn’t see it, then the TUE jumped out at me.

GAC 8:14 AM  

This was a very nice puzzle - I rate it as Medium. Southeast corner was tough. I didn't care about what the 7 were, and only found out by coming here. Glad to see that Rex could write up a puzzle without picking nits. Perhaps because there were none to pick?

CWT 8:21 AM  

You word “etes” as “are” in French works only with “vous” (plural or formal “you”). The corrrect form with the singular or intimate “tu” is indeed. “es”
French 101

bocamp 8:29 AM  

Thx, Brooke & Brian; just enuf HEFT to make it interesting! 😊

On the easier side of med).

Pretty smooth trip. No real holdups.

I normally don't give much heed to the themers (unless absolutely necessary); always enjoy figuring them out post-solve. Liked this one.

Loved THUMB WARS. Had many a battle. 👍

Fun adventure; liked it a lot! :)
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@ing jb129 and other Natan Last, Mon. New Yorker doers: very easy; altho needed guesses at the cross of 'invitation' / 'Nonchalant' / 'Sister'. :)
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity ~ & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

Anonymous 8:33 AM  

Tue es Vous êtes

Anonymous 8:35 AM  

“Etes” is indeed the word for the formal “are,” (vous etes = you are, formally), but the proper conjugation for “tu” (the informal “you”) is “es”.

Anonymous 8:36 AM  

The one answer I still can’t figure out the meaning of is CAROM (ricochet). Can anybody tell me what that word is?

Nancy 8:37 AM  


As I sped rather quickly through this puzzle, I imagined myself locked in a room from which I would not be released until I could identify what the theme answers had in common. Frankly, I had absolutely no idea.

After finishing, I went through the themers again. Still absolutely no idea.

It's times like this I'm especially glad I don't run a crossword blog. I'd end up with egg all over my face because people would be waiting for an answer from me that I couldn't provide. Very stressful, I should think. Embarrassing too.

And now, having come to the blog, I at last know what ties the answers together. And my reaction is: "Is that all there is?"

It was hiding there all along in plain sight. And so completely underwhelming that I missed it entirely. Wondering about the rest of y'all. I'll go back and take a look.

Instead, it solved for me as a perfectly pleasant themeless. With a great and rather amusing clue for MIA (55A). I was also thinking: now what if the person making the grid throws "ING" at you? How would you clue that??? Whoever wrote the clue for 40D found an inspired solution.

Anonymous 8:42 AM  

It’s amazing how the phrase “reech coreenthian leather” trips off the tongue of late-baby boom Americans.

burtonkd 8:46 AM  

One of my fastest Wednesdays. Lots of fun discovering theme, plus all the good solid entries throughout. As expected from Brooke, who is in the NYer weekly!

At least the 3rd appearance of AMA, Reddit Q&A being the new go-to after the American Medical Association retired. 1st appearance took all the crosses to get that aha, 2nd some brief reflection, today BAM.

@Bob Mills
je suis belle
tu es belle
elle est belle
nous sommes belles
vous etes belle(s)
elles sont belles
beaux for mas.

Gary Jugert 8:46 AM  

TL;DR I love this puzzle.

The scene: Me standing in front of a high rise in Denver's Capitol Hill working on this puzzle in the dark. I am the president of the HOA and desperately hoping the fire alarm doesn't go off before the fresh air clears things out. Both garage doors are wide open and I'm watching to make sure no neighborhood creeps sneak into the building.

The back story: The garage and the basement mechanical room were filled with smoke, and perhaps carbon monoxide, when a machine malfunctioned. The machine was installed by our HVAC technician to evacuate the manifolds after they failed more than two weeks ago and have finally been replaced and rewelded. The tech has practically been living in the mechanical room trying to fix our air conditioning all this time. We hoped we were a day or two away in this mid-90s heat to hear the sweet roar of engines pushing freon.

The back back story: The air conditioning system was installed when they first built this place in 1956. Condo owners and boards for the last 67 years kept hoping the A/C would last another few years. Our tech said this system was phased out 35 years ago. Those of you with body parts from 1956 might agree those parts did a better job 35 years ago. And those of you in HOAs will agree you love to squabble about funding the actual cost of maintenance.

Meanwhile, I have a sick dog because she ate something off the ground last Saturday and if you ever thought about eating something off the ground in an urban environment, you can imagine how it might not benefit either end of your gastrointestinal system. And we have a frustrating amount of family and friends battling illness real and imagined right now. And and and....

So I'm hot, cranky, tired, frustrated, and ready to buy an old school bus and live in it and drive someplace where there's good wifi and nobody talking politics.

All this as prelude to say I loved this puzzle. It brought joy into bleakness and a breath of fresh cool air. It was youthful without the typical insipidness of youthful puzzles. A bunch of fun clues and glistening answers. THUMB WARS! Are you kidding me?! I didn't know lots of stuff, but the constructors said, "Here, let me help you."

I will mention, at the recommendation of @jberg yesterday, I chased down the Billygoat Gruff story and do you remember this? "He flew at the troll, and poked his eyes out with his horns, and crushed him to bits, body and bones, and tossed him out into the cascade."? The goats then went off and got fat after destroying the troll. It's really a tale of privileged scheming, but I only care about the poking with horns ... and then who shows up today but a horny SATAN (Tee-Hee) as 7 of 7.

I'm new to the world of DURIANS.

The puzzle after the puzzle will probably divide us up. It's an awful lotta work for the days of the week. You can just check your phone.

But remember, Scottish cows are cute.

Uniclues:

1 The price of wisdom is your soul.
2 How one's lies can get out of hand.
3 Approximately 117 billion humans have existed, a few hundred made a difference, and you're not one of them. J/K. You matter.
4 Where I'd spend my free time if it weren't for the restraining order.

1 OWLS PAY SATAN
2 NOURISH DENIALS
3 MAMMAL DATA DUMP
4 KIDMAN TUB (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: "You like anchovies? Gross," say. ATTACK A TASTE

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 8:49 AM  

I would just expect a clue for ING to be "It makes a gerund".

Anonymous 9:07 AM  

Just noting (as a Spanish speaker of Portuguese descent) that TUE- also could have been done in Spanish (tú eres…) or even Iberian Portuguese (tu eres), though that last one might be too much of a reach for a Wednesday.

Anonymous 9:09 AM  

Ricardo Montalban and the beginning of the end for Chrysler. My grandfather hated when they did to his car in 1980, and started buying General Motors cars like the Delta 98, and I will always pine for my 1984 Olds Cutlass Supreme. Thanks, Rex, for taking us down that memory lane.

RooMonster 9:30 AM  

Hey All !
*Whoosh*
No, not a Rex-crushing-the-puz sound, it was the sound of the Theme flying over my head. When I couldn't get hide nor hair of any of the Themers as a group, I abandoned the Theme and just solved the puz. I figured good ole Rex would let me in on the gist. Thanks Rex.

I suppose if I stated long enough, I might've figured it out. But, alas.

Nice puz. Different type of theme. Not too much MEH fill.

@pablo
We sort of get a together answer today, RUPAUL. Har.

What happened to SHIA LeBeouf? He was in like every movie in the late 2000s to early 2010s. Now, you don't see him. Weird.
Ooh, just checked IMDB, and apparently he's still quite active making movies. 4 in 2020! Only 1 in 2022. I guess they aren't widely popular movies?

Anyway, have a great Wednesday!

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

RooMonster 9:49 AM  

@pablo
Har! I posted before reading you. Great minds, and all that!

RooMonster Well, Sort Of Great Mind Guy
😁

beverly c 9:58 AM  

This is weird but the theme jumped out at me when I hit TUE and I didn’t study French. It made the rest of the puzzle very easy.
I can see everyone loves this puzzle, but maybe I went so fast I just missed the wordplay clues?

Liveprof 10:01 AM  

@Lewis. As long as we are noodling around with #7, let's not forget Mickey Mantle, may he rest in peace. I was at the Stadium one day in 1963 (I think); Mantle had been out for months with a broken leg. It was late in the second game of a doubleheader (common back then). For some reason, there was a rustling roar starting up in what remained of the crowd. Then I saw why: Mantle had stepped into the on-deck circle to pinch hit. It was to be his first at-bat in months. The love was palpable in the Bronx. He stepped up to the plate, batting righty, I remember. His home run sailed about eight rows back over the low left-field railing. He was still limping a bit as he rounded the bases. I went to a lot of games when I was a kid, but that may be my fondest memory.

After The Mick passed away, the Yankees held a day in his honor. Correct me if I'm wrong and anybody remembers, but the winning lottery number in NY that day (randomly determined) came up all 7's.

egsforbreakfast 10:02 AM  

Why days of the week? And if you’re gonna do days of the week, why these days? Sorry, but I assume there are others out there who need a fix of Rexrantism and were disappointed by his serving of saccharine today. Also, Rex asks “….what the hell else are you gonna use for your TUE- answer? The only other things I can think of are also French phrases. ". How about TUTU ENVY?

If anyone went MIA as a result of THUMBWARS, you know he was up against a serious thumb. Maybe someone like Andre the Giant.

Brooke Husic. Is SHIA genius? Gotta say yes. Thanks Brooke and Brian. We oWE Da two of you for this one.

Lewis 10:12 AM  

@liveprof -- Great story!

Anonymous 10:25 AM  

Tres bien monsieur, super explcation!

Tanner 10:39 AM  

THUMB WARS is interesting, because I think "digital" can have both meanings here. I think I've heard the phrase refer to an online argument, in which you use your thumbs to type. The physical thumb war didn't even cross my mind!

SimonSays 10:47 AM  

Like most here, I had no clue to what the theme referred to. Speaking of clues, I thought there were a good number of fresh ones in this basket.
Bravo B and B!

Carola 11:01 AM  

I caught on at the 3rd of 7, when what-the-heck-on-a-Wednesday TUESBELLE made sense of the preceding nod to will-people-really-know MONTALBAN and the initial SUNNI. After that the following days of the week made things go fast. I'll confess that I was hoping for a snappy reveal, maybe something "part-time" but lots more clever. I agree about the entire grid being a pleasure to fill. Loved @Rex's ode to Ricardo MONTALBAN.

Do-over: onus (seemed like it had become a daily requirement) before HEFT. Help from previous puzzles: AMA. No idea: NATASHA.

Newboy 11:03 AM  

WOW!

What a delight to open the iPad and see today’s constructors dancing before my eyes. Brooke always makes my life hellish fun with her MONday New Yorker grid, and Brian’s now missed (weeping emoji) “Puzzles Needing a Home” were a god-sent DURIAN to enjoy over the Covid-19 months. The fact that he shared initials with BT our older son and resided just over the state line always brought us a little extra joy….and proximity often provided an insider’s wheelhouse advantage.

WEDnesday cute, of course, as expected. Would have been even better without the clue crutch as the 1a, 17a 26a were enough to slot the penny. Any day when I get the gimmick wfo Rex is a good one; so too for any day’s rare alignment of @Lewis & Rex for ADMIRED grids. Toss in a wonderful story from commentariat (thanks @liveprof and @Gary Jurgert) and even WEDnesday EARNS full credit!

Whatsername 11:08 AM  

An entertaining and easy to solve Wednesday but I finished it with no eff ING idea of what the theme was supposed to be. MEH. I hate when that happens.

Hadn’t thought of Ricardo MONTALBAN in decades. Do you recall him in Fantasy Island. “De plane de plane!!” IF SO, you’re probably older than FRIAR TUCK.

@prob_rick 11:13 AM  

Got off to a lightning fast start. Filled in SUNNI, saw 1 of 7, guessed days of the week and filled in 4 of the other 6. My French failed me on TU ES BELLE, and I couldn't fathom THUBWARS

Anonymous 11:14 AM  

I hate the word ‘meh.’

Anonymous 11:17 AM  

Ummm... TUTU ENVY starts with TUT, not TUE...

Masked and Anonymous 11:22 AM  

Interestin WediditPuz. Pretty week idea. etc.

Got the top half of the puz filled in, and didn't know where the puztheme was headed yet. Took a break after gettin WEDIDIT [aka "4th of 7"]. Looked around for a revealer, but nope-- ain't got one. Started to ponder things that come in "sevens". Seas came to mind, first. But, the MONTALBAN Sea? … didn't think so. Then I tried days in a week, and … ahar moment time arrived.

After the ahar, the themers became mighty easy to solve.

staff weeject pick: -ING. Brutal Spanish clue … had to get it from the crossers. Better clue: {Stinger in the heart??}.
Nice weeject stacks, NW & SE.

There were some no-knows, at our house: TUESBELLE [And most other French stuff over 3 letters long]. DURIANS. NATASHA. CELLO player. Tres leeches cake. All Reddit acronyms, forever. How to spell MONTALBAN [wanted somethin more like MONTEBAN].
Didn't lose too many precious nanoseconds due to those, tho. Crosses were cleanly fair.

some fave spots: NOURISH. KWANZAA. SLEIGHS. MAMMAL. WINTRY. HANDHELD. DAT A DUMP.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Husic darlin & Mr. Thomas dude. THUMBWARS, huh? Might make a cool poli-sci-fi movie franchise.

Masked & Anonymo8Us


**gruntz**

Joe Dipinto 11:39 AM  

Oh. The days of the week.

The fill was more interesting than the theme. Always glad to be reminded of this classic scene.

SAGA does not equal "ordeal". One might feel that a saga is an ordeal to sit through, but that's subjective.

Cross-clue missed op: British actress NATASHA PARRY had a long theater and film career. She was Lady Capulet in the 1968 Zeffirelli "Romeo And Juliet".

Anonymous 12:17 PM  

Carom literally means ricochet

Whatsername 12:21 PM  

@Gary J: Last THU was like that for me, started with a dead car battery. Hope your day and your dog get better soon.

Anonymous 12:29 PM  

Starting with 1-A and working the crosses, I got the theme answers out of order and could make no sense of them. So I waited for the revealer which, like Lefty or Godot, never arrived. So I figured I had to put them in order, expecting maybe a phonetic sentence—and those weekdays just jumped up and hit me in the eye.

I’m not sure if I’ve ever eaten a DURIAN, but evidently I’ve never smelled one. But I had the u, and cumquat was too long.

You are all missing @Bob Mills’s point. The clue should have said “Thou ist T beautiful.” Or maybe “thou beest.”

I’ve never heard of THUMB WARS, but my son taught me how to thumb wrestle. Are they the same thing?

@jberg

SharonAK 12:50 PM  

@ Bob Mills :
Tu es, Vous etes Je suis , Il est, etc

Anonymous 1:15 PM  

@newsboy11:03

What is wfo?

jb129 1:22 PM  

Wow this one really got me. Didn't know Durians, was stuck on Thumb wars (& I shouldn't have been - it was right there in front of me) & struggled a lot until I finally finished, never getting the theme until I came here.

So I'm gonna.blame it on not being able to sleep (I posted @ 2:38 AM for God's sake). Easy way out for me because it looks like this was a great puzzle - theme & all (Brooke always gets me though even when she's with Erik (A).



kitshef 1:31 PM  

Very late to the part on this one, but Croce 824 was very easy for a Croce. Clue for 40A is hall of shameworthy.

okanaganer 1:45 PM  

It took me almost as long to figure out the theme after finishing, than it took me to finish. Under 7 minutes is pretty quick as I am not a fast solver. TUES is the only valid 4 letter abbrev; I guess it would have been nigh impossible to come up with others.

Hands up for HELICES before HELIXES. And some brief delay while EH OKAY crossed... THEME WARS? But only brief.

[Spelling Bee: Tues -1, again missed a silly 6er, this is a recording.]

Dorkito Supremo 2:26 PM  

I was rooting for DURIAN to be elevated to Word Of The Day. I have fun memories of the fruit. In Singapore they are ubiquitous in the open air fruit markets. Their stink is impressive, even outside. In confined settings it is unbearable, even to many who enjoy the taste. The busses (and some hotels) have posted notices akin to "no smoking" signs with a drawing of the fruit in a red circle with a line slashing through it (the drawing is oddly similar to what is now used to depict the corona virus). Once while i was on the top level of a double-decker bus, a passenger boarded with some DURIAN that was in a paper bag (in violation of the notice), and the stench reached me upstairs almost instantly. In an attempt to impress my coworkers in Jakarta (in addition to wearing a batik shirt and attempting to order in Bahasa Indonesia- in hindsight i was probably trying a bit too hard), I ordered a DURIAN shake at lunch. The taste was nutty and sweet, with just a hint of something a bit off. Not nearly as difficult to get down as I had expected. Easily an aquired taste. The Jakartans were only very mildly impressed. Or maybe not impressed at all. It's hard to tell sometimes with people who are so, so friendly and welcoming.

Anoa Bob 2:35 PM  

With SUNNI at 1 Across and SHIA at 35 Across, I was thinking there was some kind of religious denominations theme going on. With SUNNI being clued "(1st of 7)", that seemed to suggest how many denominations there would be. Further PROOF of a religious related theme emerged with a FRIAR and SATAN being 6th and 7th of 7.

When that idea didn't pan out, I stopped looking for a theme and just solved it as a themeless. When I came here I saw the days of the week gimmick I was underwhelmed. Really? That's it? UH OKAY then, solving as a themeless was the way to go.

This was the second day in a row that the grid fill got a lot of help from the plural of convenience (POC). There are three of the two for one POCs where a Down and an Across share a letter count boosting S. The first is at the ends of TON/DURIAN. Even a themer is part of a two fer when neither SAGA nor THUMB WAR can do their job alone. And then there is that S fest in the lower right with ICES, CZARS and EARNS all packed in that small corner. The Committee unanimously gave this grid a POC Assisted rating.

OISK 2:51 PM  

Got the theme almost immediately from "first of seven..." and pretty much raced through, given the first 3 letters of 6 other clues. Never heard of durians, but the down clues were easy enough. Just one possible Natick....Never heard of "Rupaul." Fortunately, many of my students went to college in Troy, so RPI was a gimme. But I wonder if someone not familiar with the school might write DPI, DuPaul looks more likely than Rupaul.

Thumbwars, eh? Cute. Enjoyed this puzzle.

dgd 3:21 PM  

Helices. One of the plurals of helix yes. The other is “helixes” We are dealing with an English here and there are many imported words in which there is a choice of plurals. Nothing wrong with that. And very old. Part of a thousand year pattern in English of simplifying plurals. We should be used to by now!
Thur is more common but Thu is not rare. I have seen it often enough. Nothing wrong with it in crosswords.

Anonymous 3:24 PM  

Lievprof,
Mantle hit 554 Home runs ( that's including the 18 in the Series). Most baseball historians list his most famous homeruns thusly:
The tape measure shot at Griffith in DC.
The first home run in the Astrodome
The HR that gave Don Larson all he's need to notch his Prefect Game
The two that hit the façade at Yankee stadium
The walls off that ended game 3 of the `64 Series and..
The pinch it homerun against Baltimore you cite.


It's pretty amazing that you were there. I mean attendance for that day was 39, 432. (Yankee stadium held 67, 000 in those days) so this wasn't exactly a must-see game. I mean the 4th place Orioles?!! Setting that aside, lots of people would have left before the seventh inning of the second game of a double header. I mean the Bombers had been smoked 7-2 in the first game. Incredible that your fandom was as profound as your good fortune was historic.

One thing not in dispute is that Mantle wrote the greatest piece of prose in the English language. Google his response to the Yankees when they asked him what his greatest memory at Yankee Stadium was. It's worth the search. I promise.

Anonymous 3:28 PM  

“Helixes”is in very common use and is accepted in dictionaries.
So it is a suitable answer in a crossword. Not a thesis or an academic publication after all.

jberg 3:51 PM  

Isn't it supposed to be "helipodes?"

Anonymous 3:51 PM  

Maybe I am stating the obvious. But thou is archaic and is NOT equivalent to tu. Tu is very much in use in modern French. You are equals tu est AND vous etes Even when the Quakers were using it in the 18th Century, thou was obsolete.

Joe Dipinto 4:10 PM  

The archaeologist had amassed a large number of urns over the years. He had so many cluttering up his home that he liked to fill them with all kinds of odd things, and often carried one or two around with him, because you never know.

Now he was gravely ill and didn't have long to live. On his bucket list was a visit to the Historic Sausage Kitchen of Regensburg in Germany. Finally he decided to indulge his whim, and made arrangements for the trip.

But before he left his house, he took an urn for the wurst.

Anonymous 4:19 PM  

That’s helices, like kleeneces.

bocamp 4:29 PM  

"Durian is a unique and infamous tropical fruit known for its strong odor and distinctive taste. Here's some information about the durian fruit:

Appearance: Durian is a large fruit that can grow to the size of a melon or even larger. It has a thick, spiky outer skin that is typically green or brown. The fruit can weigh several pounds, and its size can vary depending on the variety.

Odor: Durian is notorious for its strong smell, which is often described as a combination of sweet, savory, and pungent aromas. Some people find the odor unpleasant or overpowering, while others enjoy it. The smell has led to durian being banned in some public places and transportation systems.

Taste: Despite its pungent odor, durian has a unique and complex flavor that is difficult to compare to other fruits. It is often described as rich, creamy, and custard-like. The taste can vary depending on the variety, ranging from sweet to slightly bitter. Durian aficionados appreciate its rich, creamy texture and the interplay of sweet and savory notes.

Varieties: There are several different varieties of durian, with the most common being the "Musang King" or "D24" variety. Other popular varieties include "Monthong," "Red Prawn," and "Black Thorn." Each variety has its own flavor profile and characteristics.

Culinary Uses: Durian is primarily consumed fresh and is highly regarded in Southeast Asian cuisines, especially in countries like Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia. It is commonly used in desserts, such as ice cream, cakes, and pastries, where its creamy texture and unique flavor are highlighted. It can also be found in savory dishes, such as curries or rice-based dishes.

Nutritional Profile: Durian is a nutrient-dense fruit. It is high in calories, healthy fats, and carbohydrates. It is also a good source of dietary fiber, vitamins C and B, and minerals such as potassium, iron, and copper.

Cultural Significance: Durian holds cultural significance in Southeast Asia, where it is often referred to as the "king of fruits." It is celebrated during durian festivals, and its consumption is considered a social and communal activity.

It's worth noting that durian is not universally enjoyed due to its strong smell, but for those who appreciate its unique taste, it can be a highly sought-after delicacy. If you're curious about trying durian, it's recommended to taste it firsthand to fully experience its distinct flavor and decide for yourself." (ChatGPT)
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Liveprof 5:55 PM  

Anon 3:24. Thanks for all the Mantle info. I googled as you suggested: Yikes! That's a piece of Mantle lore that eluded me all these years. (It's X-rated, folks.) I love how he remembered it was the 3rd or 4th inning.

As for my staying so late in the day -- it was inconceivable to me at that age to leave a game early no matter the circumstances. For one thing, I enjoyed keeping score and I wanted a complete record of the game. And it didn't matter whom they were playing -- if there was a Sunday doubleheader, I'd ride the IRT up from Brooklyn and have the best time. You won't catch me up there now, tho -- I hate the new stadium -- concrete and plastic -- no soul.

Made in Japan 8:21 PM  

It was very easy, but I liked it. When I was a quarter of the way through, and had SUNNI and MONTALBAN, I went and filled in the rest of the 7 theme answers. I had just one mistake - I had SATYR instead of SATAN. This gave an easy entry to virtually the entire grid, and just two incorrect squares at the end which were easily resolved.

Anonymous 9:06 PM  

Liveprof,
Kinda wish I had kept that bit of Mantle ephemera to myself.
Fact is, Mantle WAS the all American boy.
And, my apologies for insinuating you’d have left a ballgame. I think you’re a true believer. And, my point about the Orioles making the game unattractive was also wrong. I know. Because I never turned down tix to a game regardless of the opponent. Please accept my apology.

Peter P 10:52 PM  

@dgd - Thank you. HELIXES is perfectly fine. To be honest, I've probably heard that word in the plural a few dozen times and every time it has been HELIXES. There's always gonna be some people pining after some old-timey irregular plural for who knows what reason. See: "Indices," "vortices," "appendices" where "indexes," "vortexes," and "appendixes" will do just fine, thank you very much. At any rate, my and your feelings on the matter aside, both forms are acceptable.

spacecraft 11:36 AM  

If we're citing Ricardo MONTALBAN's resume, we surely must include his double portrayal of the infamous Khan, first in STTOS' episode "Space Seed," and later in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." That latter effort should surely have earned him at least a nomination for best actor.

THUMBWARS bring to mind the "holitacker," introduced to the Earth by the inimitable Mork on "Happy Days." Robin Williams parlayed that appearance into a spinoff series: "Mork and Mindy."

Looking around trying to find a nit to pick. Nope. Eagle.

Wordle birdie.

Burma Shave 12:36 PM  

ANY SLEEP?

IT was a WINTRY KWANZAA day,
WEDIDIT ON and ON, OKAY?
SO what IF IT's IN my RNA?
I ADMIRED NATASHA's SLEIGH.

--- PAUL MONTALBAN, CIA

Anonymous 10:36 AM  

Not bad. But a snappy reveal would hve made it even better.

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