Betting emotionally, in poker slang / SAT 7-8-23 / Video game hurdle / Fictional group led by a Dark Lord / J.J. or T.J. of the N.F.L. / Targets of reflexology / Grass-roots marketing group / Holder of very small blueprints / Lincoln Harris early Black economist / Italian football coach Pioli

Saturday, July 8, 2023

Constructor: Brandon Koppy

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: BOSS (51A: Video game hurdle) —
In video games, a boss is a significant computer-controlled opponent. A fight with a boss character is commonly referred to as a boss battle or boss fight. Bosses are generally far stronger than other opponents the player has faced up to that point. Boss battles are generally seen at climax points of particular sections of games, such as at the end of a level or stage or guarding a specific objective. A miniboss is a boss weaker or less significant than the main boss in the same area or level, though usually more powerful than the standard opponents and often fought alongside them. A superboss (sometimes 'secret' or 'hidden' boss) is generally much more powerful than the bosses encountered as part of the main game's plot and is often an optional encounter. A final boss is often the main antagonist of a game's story and the defeat of that character usually provides a positive conclusion to the game. A boss rush is a stage where the player faces multiple previous bosses again in succession. (wikipedia)
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Gaming, poker, Italian football ... lots of stuff I know and/or care nothing about. You could add the N.F.L. and The Big Lebowski to that list too, though those answers didn't trip me up. I don't know why Lebowski and I just didn't click. I've never been more out of step with my general age cohort on a movie. I have watched and loved (and taught!) Coen Bros. films for a long time, so I feel like I should've been the perfect audience for The Big Lebowski. I'd heard it was supposed to be their Chandler film (!), and no author is more important to me (true story); also, I'd just seen Fargo (an all-time great movie), so I went into Lebowski psyched ... and left deflated and confused. And *then* the movie became a cult classic. I can't even remember much about the movie, or why I found it so disappointing. Maybe because it's a "stoner comedy," and those have never had any appeal for me ... and yet I've seen Dazed & Confused more than I have seen any other movie (only Psycho comes close), and that's allegedly a "stoner comedy," so once again, I have no good explanation for what happened with me and Lebowski. I just know that every time anyone favorably mentions "The DUDE" some little part of me goes "ugh, not that guy again" (55A: "The Big Lebowski" protagonist, with "the") I'll have to rewatch, clearly. Maybe my adoration of Fargo and my adoration of Chandler meant that my expectations were way, way too high, or way ... different from what I ended up seeing. I didn't like The Royal Tenenbaums either, and that's many people's favorite Wes Anderson film, so sometimes my reaction to the work of beloved (by me) directors just goes sideways (sidenote: I realized, after seeing the wonderful Asteroid City this week, that I've seen more films by Wes Anderson than by any other living director; I had no idea this was the case until I looked at his filmography and thought "Hmm, OK, I've seen ... all of them??") (actually, scratch that: never seen Bottle Rocket). Dang it, why did I write all this junk about Lebowski and my anomalous (bad?) movie tastes? I'm already pressed for time—heading back to Saratoga Springs to pick up my wife from her writers workshop this morning (cats and I are very excited), and I have to leave by 7am, and it's nearly 5am now, so, OK, OK, here we go, back to the puzzle. Short version: seems fine, if not exactly up my alley, content-wise.


The video game stuff was, by far, the hardest for me, in that even after getting both answers (RIOT (?) Games, BOSS), I had no idea what I was looking at. Just had to assume they were right because the crosses all worked. BOSS was a very funny way to end the solve—just me and BOSS staring at each other like "Really?" "Yep, it's me, BOSS." "What are you?" "I'm BOSS." "What does that even mean?" "DUDE, you have google, look it up." And so I did. The puzzle felt loaded with "?" clues, which are like gnats after a while, but none of these presented any real difficulty. I kinda liked imagining what [Milk duds?] could be, before I had anything in the grid. My first thought was that "duds" would, in fact, be clothing, but I was trying to think of a term for the suit that the stereotypical milkman wore. Crisp, white, with maybe a little cap, something like this:


Or this:


But when I couldn't figure that out, I went after the short crosses, and as usual, those paid off. In fact the first two were very easy, which meant I had the front ends of all the long Acrosses in the NW very quickly, which meant that corner didn't last long. The hardest part of the puzzle for me was the NE, where STEFANO was a giant "???" (11D: Italian football coach ___ Pioli), and where I'd written in TREE SWING before TIRE SWING (13D: One going out on a limb?), as well as HEAP before HOST (14D: Whole bunch). I almost wrote in "ELLEN" before "E*NEWS" but couldn't believe they'd actually clue her talk show as a "gossip show" (29A: Longtime celebrity gossip show). And I was correct, they could not, and they did not. In that same corner, "IRRELEVANT" was also hard (12D: "That's beside the point!"), in that the clue makes you think you're looking for some colloquial phrase (given the quotation marks in the clue, and how long the answer is), but the answer just ends up being a single, ordinary word! I usually get flummoxed in the other direction, i.e. with my brain assuming an answer is one word when it turns out to be many. But today: looking for many, got just the one. Outside of that corner, there were really no struggles. I even managed to no-look one of the marquee answers: MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE! That is, I filled it in without ever looking at the clue. Such a great feeling to just ... see it. That "RTVM" string actually made the answer *easy* to parse (I mentally sequestered "TV" instinctively), and then the "D" and "F" were all I needed to see the whole answer, clue unseen.


Absolute dumb luck that a wrong answer (THUS instead of THEN at 32D: Consequently) ended up providing a correct letter ("T"), which allowed me to parse MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE correctly. Sometimes accidents work for you. Anyway, I liked MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE a lot. Strongest thing in the grid besides "I FEEL SILLY" (my favorite answer of the day). 


Other mistakes? Wrote in SO-SO for 28D: B-worthy (GOOD). The clue assumes a pre-grade-inflation world. Cute. Those were the days. Everyone went to church on Sunday. Crewcuts were all the rage. Milkmen roamed the streets. And Johnny would run home from school, proud of the "B" that he'd earned in SCIENCE LAB. Simpler times. [continues rocking in rocking chair and sipping ice tea on porch, camera pans over neighboring little league field, American flag on flagpole, waving in the breeze, children frolic, dusk approaches, fade out]

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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90 comments:

Anonymous 6:23 AM  

I saw THE BIG LEBOWSKI opening weekend. I was a fan of everything else the Coens had done, especially Raising Arizona and Blood Simple. The entire time I watched Lebowski I felt confused and stressed. The plot made no sense, the main characters life was in danger and none of his friends cared.

The next weekend my roommate wanted to see it and for some reason even though I didn’t like the movie I went with him. On second watch I fell in love. Once I knew the ending of the movie, none of it felt stressful. I could just focus on the crazy world the Coens created and fall in love with the characters.

I saw it a third time in the theater. It became my favorite Coen Brother movie, and probably my favorite movie for a while.

It bombed at the box office and for a few years it felt like my little secret. But then in the early 2000s it blew up on cable and became everyone’s favorite movie. You couldn’t avoid hearing people quote the film at you, Lebowskifest happened, and Target started selling “The Dude Abides” shirts.

I know it’s dumb but that killed a lot of my love for the movie. I still think it holds up as a film, I still watch it every few years and enjoy it. But i never quote from it or talk about it because it feels like such a stereotypical Gen. X bro thing now.

Son Volt 6:27 AM  

Low word count - well filled grid. Some of the cluing strained - with obscure trivia but overall a pleasant solve. Count me in with the Lebowski ambivalence club Rex - it never clicked for me.

Howard Devoto

Liked TV MOVIE, GAME WARDEN and TREE SWING. Milk duds is trying too hard as is the entire SE corner. Matt Sewell’s Stumper offers a little more fight today.

Shaking Through

kitshef 6:56 AM  

NURSING BRA was one of my last things in, but long before then I had decided Rex would complain that this was to bro-ey. Poker, football (American and international), baseball, three video game clues and one computer clue, cars (Escape). But he didn't.

None of which particularly bothered me, but the rash of initialisms did:
R.E.M.
C.E.O.
A.S.L.
N.S.F.W.
R.C.A.
U.C.L.A.
N.C.O.
N.A.F.T.A.

+1 on not liking The Big Lebowski. Then again, I've yet to see a Coen Brothers film I liked (I stopped going to Coen Brothers movies around 2004 - I think the last one I saw was Intolerable Cruelty.)

Anonymous 7:06 AM  

I’ve long been a big fan of The Big Lebowski, and urge @Rex to take another look at it; think his self-analysis of reasons it didn’t click for him before is spot on. Life is just better when it includes the DUDE.

Liked the puzzle. Turned to Google fairly early when I had trouble getting a foothold, then raced through to the end. Similarly mystified as OFL by the gaming references, but crosses made them easy to get.

webwinger

Veronica Hutton 7:07 AM  

I was in the exact same boat RE Lebowski until a few years ago when it clicked that it was their very Coen-esque commentary on the first Iraq War and the concept of world power dynamics. Once I “read” (interpreted) the movie like I would a novel, I fell head over heels and now it’s one of my favorites. It was very strange.

Lewis 7:21 AM  

Any puzzle with BLATHER and IRRELEVANT has me on its side.

Add a “Hah!” at the wordplay in [Milk duds?], an “Ooh, that’s a good one!” at [Hunter gatherer?], and a feel-good-all-over at [Precipitous?], and I’m a fan.

Throw in a lovely PuzzPair© -- ARISE and FLOAT ON AIR – then add freshness with eight answers that have never appeared in the NYT puzzle before, including CAESAR DRESSING, I FEEL SILLY, MADE FOR TV MOVIE, and SCIENCE LAB, and I’m having a can’t-be-dented great time.

Then spark my love of West Side Story songs with I FEEL SILLY, enough to make me come out with:

I feel silly
Oh, so silly
I feel silly
In this frilly guise
I’ll say shrilly
That this garb is something
I despise

And, well, you’ve given me a slam-bang outing, Brandon, a party in a box. Thank you, sir, for giving this day an exuberant start!

bocamp 7:25 AM  

Thx, Brandon; you're the BOSS, DUDE! 😊

Med.

Even with dropping in NSFW, UCLA & WATT off the bat, couldn't tame the NW, but things gradually smoothed out.

Had MADE FOR TV MOVIE / SO SO (which didn't quite sit right), SO happy when GOOD was revealed by CAESAR DRESSING.

TArP before RAMP held me up temporarily down in Texas.

BOSS & SYMS were unknowns, so an educated guess on the terminal 'S'.

Was FLOATing ON AIR at the finish line.

Enjoyable solve! :)
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JD 7:27 AM  

This explains a lot about why I seldom agree with Rex. The Big Lebowski and The Royal Tenenbaums are near the top of my list of all time favorite movies.

Milk Duds just struck me as bad. A Bra is not Duds. Duds in a generality of clothes. Nice Duds. I need new Duds. A shirt is not Duds. Is breast Milk wearing something? Then there's the general tastelessness of it. Why do I picture 13-year-olds playing D&D and talking about Star Wars sometime in the '70s Dude?

And why is Caesar Dressing an alternative to Ranch? In this sense, all dressings are alternatives to Ranch. Since Caesar Salad dress usually goes on a Caesar Salad, almost any other dressing is more likely to sub for Ranch.

But I Feel Silly. These are the two lone gripes. Irrelevant to the big picture. I Blather (a word I love). Made For TV, Float On Air, and Nursing Bra clued in just about any other way, the clues for ASL and Rain, great. Lots of good stuff here. Fun.

Conrad 7:29 AM  


@Veronica Hutton: Thanks. I'll have to re-watch it with that in mind.

I fell for the fore/NSFW trap at 1D. This made me unsure of UCLA because of the rL at 17A
Also the sro/POW trap at 22A
@Rex sOso before GOOD at 28D
Solving clockwise, I had the end of 31A and guessed only FOR TV MOVIE instead of MADE
ergo and @Rex THus before THEN at 32D
Crossword favorite elo before REM at 34A
At 57D I was trying to think of a three-letter SUV as the Wrangler competitor. Wrong Wrangler.

ON TILT (43A) was a WOE, as was ABRAM Lincoln Harris at 10D

Overall, I agree with Easy-Medium.

Andy Freude 7:56 AM  

ORECART? If you insist . . .

My history with the brothers Coen is sorta the opposite of Rex’s. I initially hated Fargo for what I took to be Hollywood-style condescension toward Midwesterners. (I was wrong and later came to see the error of my ways.) That first impression primed me to hate O Brother Where Art Thou, as a native Southerner who constantly criticizes the South but resents criticism from non-Southerners. But near the beginning of the movie I caught on that it is a reworking of the Odyssey and on that level found it hilarious. It also works in a lot of blues and country music arcana in a loving way. One of my favorite films.

With The Big Lebowski I went in expecting a stoner movie, since it was being urged on me by my high-school-age son and his buddies. So when it turned out to be so much more, I was impressed. Still can’t get Mrs. Freude to watch it, tho.

Anonymous 8:06 AM  

Had FORE for link warning, thought of golf before I thought of anything online— tripped me up for a long time! Otherwise very smooth grid.

Christopher 8:09 AM  

The bottom half of this played like a Monday/Tuesday.

Much of the joy was completely sucked out of the top half by the arcane black economist and
the Italian football coach, two names that I still won't know when they next appear in a puzzle in the 2040s. Two of the crosses for Stefano were of no help (Sith, enews).

Orecart is ridiculous, but I got the acrosses, so there's that. Per m-w.com:

“orecart”
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.

(Same result when I add the space and make it two words)

And I generally don't recoil the way some do when a grid contains an odious political figure, but right there in the SW is the multimillionaire politico who owns three homes and is out peddling a book called "It's OK to be Angry About Capitalism."

jammon 8:26 AM  

Like Rex, two thoughts stood out as I was doing this (rather enjoyable) puzzle. The first was "I never liked that movie" and the other was "What the...does EVERY clue have a question mark??"

SouthsideJohnny 8:31 AM  

So, is EASTER EGGS a generic term for some type of hidden or pop-up surprise ? The “e.g.” in the clue has me intrigued (Little surprises in computer games, e.g.). What are some other examples of EASTER EGGS other than those things that they go hunting for outside the White House about once a year? Note: a cursory internet search appears to indicate that it might be a term that relates only to computer games at this point - which begs the question - is computer gaming the same as “video gaming”. I don’t know, it’s all so confusing.

pabloinnh 8:32 AM  

Exact same finish as OFL and the exact same reaction. BOSS? Really? Took forever to see ILLBITE, which gave me the B, and SYMS sounded like the only plausible last name, so I thought it had to be right, but still. My knowledge of video games is right up there with my knowledge of celebrity gossip shows, and that one took a while too. See also D&D, Dark Lord groups, and poker terminology. It's nice to learn new things, but I fear these new things will only be useful as crossword answers. "Crossword answers" gave me EASTEREGGS, which I learned here, so yay for them, at least occasionally.

I thought this was a properly crunchy Saturday with enough fair crosses to make up for the totally unknown. A little overreach on a couple of clues but nothing egregious. Nice job, BK. Took some time even for a Big Know-it-all like me, and thanks for all the fun.

Dr.A 8:34 AM  

You definitely need to see Bottle Rocket. I feel the same way about The Big Lebowski. I will even admit that I can’t make it through that movie and Fargo is also one of my favorites. Weird. Ok, I know BOSS because my daughter is a huge video gamer, but still never heard of RIOT. Otherwise, the tope was tough the bottom was ridiculously easy which was very unbalanced. Idk. Just glad I knew REM without any thought. The NFL clues left me baffled until I filled in all the crosses.

andrew 8:42 AM  

Had the hoary chestnut SRO for POW, NURSeryBRA, and had to look up STEFANO.

Top half - the NURSERYBRA half - seemed somewhat hard, the bottom too easy (“Guitarist Carlos”, “tennis laptop”, aforementioned DUDE, EASTEREGGS).

No real issues with the answers; the clueing could have been more Saturdayish.

(Worse, failed at WORDLE for the first time in 200 tries. Even after having 4 of the 5 letters in place after second guess. Figured with 4 more guesses, was BOUND to happen on the right initial letter. I figured wrong).

Anonymous 8:50 AM  

Just saw "The Big Lebowski" last week for the first time. I didn't much like it, but we got a new area rug, and someone commented that it really pulled the room together. I didn't react, they explained, and I felt I needed to watch the film just to acquire the pop culture reference. And today that reference served me well.

floatingboy 8:55 AM  

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BOTTLE ROCKET?? It's the least Wes Anderson-y Wes Anderson movie. Only hints of things to come. Quirky characters for sure, but not full of all the twee symmetry. Definitely a fun movie.

EasyEd 8:55 AM  

A milkman story: Growing up our family was a group of milk guzzlers and Mom had it delivered by the case. One time our glad-handing milkman took a day off and was replaced by one of my mother’s brothers (she also had a HOST of sisters). He found that our delivery volume rated a large discount and that our regular milkman was pocketing the discount. Regular guy was replaced, never to be seen again in our neighborhood…Puzzle was fun to solve tho I had to Google some of the PPP such as Syms and a couple of the initialisms.

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

Funny how expectations (for me at least) can play such a big role in your reaction to a film (book, tv show etc). Dragged to a trashy movie you know you’re gonna hate and end up loving or hearing tons of hype only to be disappointed - just two heads of the coin.

Oh yeah, the puzzle. Fun Saturday, maybe a little easy. Immature snicker at NURSINGBRA which helped me overwrite butTPAD with SEATPAD. Thank goodness for MEATSAUCE and GAMEWARDEN to help me with CAESARDRESSING, CAESAR being one of those names I’m forever misspelling (started with CeaSeR today. Oofa.)

Anonymous 9:05 AM  

Record time because I was nursing when answering 1A.

Bob Mills 9:10 AM  

Finished it without cheating...hurrah for me. The SE gave me the most trouble; I had "Alec" or "Alex" for a long time before thinking of OLEG/LEGO. EASTEREGGS didn't seem to fit the clue, but that might be because I'm an old guy.

The usual supply of misdirects, most of which I was able to catch. GAMEWARDEN AND IRRELEVANT were fairly obvious, I thought, which made all the difference.

Kent 9:29 AM  

RE Lebowski: One of my favorite films, but it didn’t start out that way. I remember walking out of the theater wondering “what the heck did I just watch?” But there were moments that stuck with me: “This aggression will not stand, man” “He fixes the cable?” “A lot of in, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-toys.” etc. So I watched it again, and have watched it repeatedly since. If you like Cohen and Chandler, I think it’s worth another shot. (Bottle Rocket too, if you’re a Wes A fan).

I really enjoyed this puzzle. The “?” clues were numerous, but they all worked, and some sparkled - Hunter-gatherer? was my favorite.

RooMonster 9:31 AM  

Hey All !
NE corner troubles. Just could not get TreeSWING out of the SILLY brain. And also Heap for HOST. Dang. Had to Goog for the Italian football coach, because really, an Italian football coach? I'm a fan of the NFL, and probably couldn't come up with some of the coaches names, never mind Italian coaches.

Anyway, so a one (cheat)(lookup)(fail!) finish.

I drove Carlos SANTANA a couple of times when I was a Limo Driver. Nice, quiet, him and his wife. To the airport flying somewhere for a concert. Back to his house once.

Fun clue on WATT, me being a Steelers fan.

Tee-hee moment: almost wanting NURSINGtit. The Times would never!

Nice SatPuz that went relatively quickly, until stopped by that nefarious NE. I've got to start using nefarious more often, it's a great word. 😁

Have a wondrous weekend, y'all!

Four F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 9:34 AM  

All time solve record for a Saturday. Felt more like a Tuesday or easy Wednesday.

Sixthstone 9:35 AM  

I'm with Rex. Couldn't dig Lewboski or Tenenbaums. But Bottle Rocket is great!

Sixthstone 9:39 AM  

@southside johnny - Easter eggs are common in movies as well, especially all the Marvel movies.

Eater of Sole 9:48 AM  

I too saw Lebowski when it came out and was underwhelmed. Then ca. 2010 the company I worked for announced they were closing our office. This, understandably, led to a severe drop in motivation for most everyone there, which led to a gathering one Friday afternoon in which a bunch of us got together in a conference room and streamed The Big Lebowski on the big screen there while passing around a bottle of rum. The movie was fantastic! By contrast, I was blown away by Blood Simple when it came out, and when I rewatched that with friends a few years ago I was bored to tears (not literally).

I suppose I should say something about the puzzle. There must be a more Saturday-worthy way to clue DUDE. "Ranch option" (to go with the salad dressing, though many people seem to dislike echo-ey clues).

Nancy 9:55 AM  

Write-overs: BLAbbER before BLATHER (8D) and THus before THEN (32D). Otherwise, with the exception of the four (4!!) video game clues, I mostly felt as though I was on the constructor's wavelength. I saw NSFW immediately and that plus UCLA gave me NURSING BRA early.

I was looking for a woman's name beginning with "E" where ENEWS went (29A), but couldn't think of anyone other than ELLEN, and she didn't work.

But once MADE FOR TV MOVIE came in, I knew I would be an ACER of this puzzle.

Mostly liked this puzzle -- other than the video games -- but think some of the clues are too much of a stretch to be accurate or especially fair. Yes I suppose you can make your escape in a car you keep in your GARAGE, but "Escape room" seems like a bit much. And when was the last time a GAME WARDEN "gathered" any hunters?

SEAT PAD, though clued obliquely, was obvious to me because I own two. They're kneeling pads for gardening, actually, and unlike cushions, they lie flat. I call them my NMURCs (pronounced "En-merks") -- an acronym I made up myself. It stands for "No More Uncomfortable Restaurant Chairs".

You would be amazed at the outrageously sadistic furniture I'm able to sit on now.

egsforbreakfast 10:12 AM  

I’ve always thought that there are two types of people in this world. ROAMERS and SANDERS. You may think you’re an ACER or a BLATHER. But they’re only subsets of the big two.

Popeye (after eating rotten spinach): I FEELS ILLY.

I like the image of CAESARDRESSING in a NURSINGBRA and SEATPAD.

Pretty easy for a Saturday, but a lot of fun. Thames, Brandon Koppy.

Wright-Young 10:13 AM  

Enjoyed this a lot! Think adults can handle the concept of breastfeeding…

beverly c 10:33 AM  

This was much easier for me than yesterday. Only the NW was very difficult since none of the short crosses came to me after 1D. RAINY finally opened the way, once the rest of the puzzle was complete.

I remember first encountering EASTER EGGS in DVDs - little in-jokes that could be found if you were clever or in the know. We generally aren’t. I have heard of BOSS monsters in (board) games. They’re the most challenging to defeat. Unfamiliar with RIOT. Oh, there’s also GAME WARDEN. The tennis clue for ACER. Lego, ONTILT. Lots of game play. Plus I FEEL SILLY and TIRE SWING.

I'm in the pro-Lebowski camp. It used to be hard to get past the language, but I've gotten somewhat inured to that with time. There’s the bowling tie-in… Blood Simple made a big impact on us when it was first released. M. Emmet Walsh. Holy guacamole. Not one we re-watch though. More recently we find dark themes difficult. Still, we eagerly awaited Coen films after that. I think Wes A. has stolen our hearts.

No one has mentioned the POW - sign of a big hit? This puzzle gets my POW.

Carola 10:33 AM  

I understood 1A's "duds" in the sense of failures, and struggled to understand how that fit with "Milk": cartons gone bad? Or something? So NURSING BRA was a total surprise, and it took a second for duds to be transformed from failures to garments - and then the immediate laugh. I liked its cross with SEAT PAD, also not IRRELEVANT, post-delivery. Departing the postpartum area, I found the puzzle a mix of easy (e.g., CAESAR DRESSING, EASTER EGGS) and engagingly tough (TIRE SWING, GAME WARDEN), and fun to solve. Yesterday's and today's puzzles have given me a greater appreciation of the creativity that goes into cluing.

Do-over: Wild guess at Tree Sloth out on the limb. No idea: RIOT, BOSS, AT TILT, BARD, ABRAM.

mathgent 10:54 AM  

Saturdays usually have a lot of mystery clue/entries. When there are twenty or so, I'm in trouble. Today there were only ten. That gave me enough crossing letters to correctly guess the mysteries. Bottom line: crunchy but gettable.

Didn't enjoy it very much. Very little sparkle. Also, as Nancy said, some of the clues were stretched so far that they didn't make sense. GAMEWARDEN.

Weezie 10:58 AM  

It’s funny, I didn’t really experience this as a bro-y puzzle so much as a certain kind of nerdy, what with all the video game references and then a D&D clue for good measure. Not exactly my wheelhouse but adjacent enough that this wound up being fairly easy for a Sunday for me.

Did you know that Thousand Island has the same number of letters as RANCHDRESSING? Me neither until I dropped it in so confidently, so pleased with myself and then I had to take it alllll out shortly thereafter.

I really enjoyed this puzzle, and the endless question marks. I struggled a bit with the top at first and then put it down and came back to it, and I think by then my brain had gotten on the constructor’s wavelength, because it was pretty whooshy from then on. Today was a great example of how a puzzle can be both easy-ish and still present a challenge, I think.

@Beezer from yesterday - our chute went to the basement too! I only lived there from ages 13-17, but I remember even then that it seemed magical, like one step below a dumb waiter. My brother’s brief foray into it could have been *so bad.* Sounds like your son and my brother gave their parents similar kinds of agita. I was the “good one” until high school when I really made up for lost time. I don’t envy parents of teenagers!

burtonkd 11:11 AM  

@Nancy, a GARAGE is a room for your Ford Escape, a popular SUV.

Same movie experience as RP. I must see Bottle Rocket now, thx all for recc. I'm guessing it might be like watching Reservoir Dogs in that it gives you a little window into everything to come from Tarantino.

I think I may have been oversold on Asteroid City. Would I have enjoyed it if it didn't feature such famous actors having a great time being in a WA film?

Newboy 11:16 AM  

The DUDE is very much in the culture and was a first entry today & SANTANA was a close second entry. Easily working from that SW corner the grid filled like a gently poured lemonade….then came the NE where successful completion was to SWING for minutes as a HOST of ERRorS dangled as did fruit for Tantalus. Out on that limb for far too long! Thanks for the frustration and CERVANTES Brandon; today we needed both.

jae 11:18 AM  

Easy and easier than yesterday’s for me. I got off to a slow start with “fore” at 1d. That took a while to fix. That also led me to solve from the bottom up which played like an early week puzzle.

Did not know STEFANO, did know SANTANA.

Solid with a bit of sparkle, liked it and also liked Big Lebowski.

johnk 11:35 AM  

BRA as duds?
CAESAR DRESSING? - yes we see bottles with that printed on their labels, but next to them are bottles that say "Ranch Dressing"; or, just Ranch and CAESAR. Besides, an actual caesar salad isn't made with "CAESAR DRESSING."
But those were forgivable in this enjoyable puzzle. I faltered for just a bit in the NW with FORE and CHATTER, but UCLA set me right. Somehow, I solved fairly quickly for a Saturday, even though I have no interest in celebrity gossip or video games. OTOH, I loved Lebowski, and I partied with Santana.

Joe Dipinto 11:48 AM  

I also had THOUSAND ISLAND for the Ranch alternative at first, which briefly made Ragu, e.g., look like MEH SAUCE.

I didn't notice BOSS was even in the grid since I got that whole corner from the downs.

Never saw Lebowski, don't particularly want to. Not really a Coen enthusiast. "Fargo" was ok. "Inside Llewyn Davis" was awful.

Anonymous 11:49 AM  

@Eater of Sole: “Ranch option” would have been an awesome clue for DUDE!

MarthaCatherine 11:50 AM  

Easier than yesterday's puzzle!

Confidently threw down ergo for 32D. Changed it to THus. Finally got THEN. Almost DNF'd at the ILLBITE/BOSS/SYMS crossings. Had to read Rex to find you why a BOSS is any kind of hurdle. Haven't played a video game since Pacman.

bocamp 11:52 AM  

First thot was 'fore' at 1D, but the singular 'Link' didn't ring true, so NSFW came to the rescue.

Big fan of almost anything Coen Bros., but the Big Lebo is one of my least faves.

Thx to @kitshef (6:56 AM), burtonkd (11:11 AM) re: ESCAPE

This one flew right over my head, as my first and only thot was of my Dad's 3-car garage 'man cave' in Phoenix (which usurped one of the parking spots). A definite 'ESCAPE room' for him. lol

@Bob Mills (9:10 AM) 👍
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Re: ORE CART, ORE-CART, ORECART:

"Yes, "ore cart" is a term used to describe a type of wheeled vehicle or cart specifically designed for transporting ore or raw materials in mining operations. It is commonly used in the mining industry to move large quantities of mined material, such as rocks, minerals, or ore, from one location to another.

The term "ore cart" is composed of the word "ore," referring to the valuable material being extracted, and "cart," which denotes a wheeled vehicle used for transporting goods or materials. When used together, "ore cart" specifically refers to a cart or wagon designed and used for the transportation of ore.

It's worth noting that the term can be written as "ore cart" or "orecart," both of which are widely understood and used interchangeably. The choice of spelling may vary depending on the specific context or preference." (ChatGPT)

Note: have to disagree with ChatGPT's last para. re: "… both of which are widely understood and used interchangeably."

Searching Google for "ORECART" and "ORE CART" (with or without quotes) yields virtually nada, usually deferring to mineCART. Found no dictionaries with any version of ORE CART (hi @Christopher (8:09 AM)); most go with mineCART or mine CART. Wikipedia has mineCART, mine CART, mine CAR or mine trolley. However, there is this on Google Books Ngram Viewer, which shows ORE CART with a wide lead over both ORE-CART and ORECART (which barely registers).

Another example of how careful one has to be wrt ChatGPT; it occasionally pulls facts out of the mist. lol
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Anonymous 11:55 AM  

also in the target demographic, but i also did not like the big lebowski or the royal tenenbaums. such is life.

Anonymous 11:58 AM  

It was tire swing - not tree swing. Was that a slip? I tree, then rope before tire. Messed up for a long time

Gary Jugert 12:20 PM  

Fun. Borderline comical. How did this get past our staid editors?

Uniclues:

1 I can't think of a clue for this, but it's such a great phrase it's going into the list.
2 Bunsen burner, explosion, trip to the ER.
3 Weapon for use when the rector goes rogue.
4 Instagram post of your car on fire.
5 Caption under an Instagram post of your car on fire.
6 Laptops at Goodwill.
7 Desire to dye.
8 Dieters.
9 The endless vacation recap with friends over dinner trapped in their house.

1 SITH NURSING BRA (~)
2 SCIENCE LAB TRIO
3 POW HYMNALS
4 GARAGE E-NEWS
5 DUDE, I FEEL SILLY
6 ACER STREET TEAM
7 EASTER EGGS YEN
8 SEAT PAD SANDERS
9 ROAMERS' BLATHER (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Robert Burns at an Animal House party. SCOT TOGAED

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Anonymous 12:24 PM  

@Bocamp @There's no such thing as an ORE CART folk - I don't know about you, but when I google "ore cart" I get pictures of ore carts (labeled as such), where you can buy an antique one, where you can buy a reproduction, where you can buy ore cart figurines, etc.

GILL I. 12:33 PM  

I FEEL SILLY...Oh so SILLY...DRESSING up in a NURSING BRA as I FLOAT ON AIR. I will now SITH down with the Dark Lord....
A HOST of men in the ballroom. I wasn't introduced. Some football coach named STEFANO was staring out the window. Should I know you? Should I know some DUDE named Lebowski? I'll go ask my two gal pals PEET and SYMS. Were they on that E NEWS show? Me thinks I BLATHER too much.
How did I start this? I needed a toe-hold. Ah...I do know and love you SANTANA. I'll dance with you...maybe SANDERS as well.
I flitted all around BUT, I really wanted to finish cleaning the upstairs. FORE for 1D. Damn! WATT a mess to be cleaned up. Cheat. I'm already filled with agita, angst and dyspepsia . Oh...so it's NSFW (whatever that means)....OK, so it was worth it. I already had BRA, LAB and AIR. I just needed to find some buttons to close you up. I did.
Onward I go. Can I finish this without feeling my AAD? I'll try.
I asked myself why anyone bets emotionally in poker and why it's called ON TILT. {sigh}... BOSS? Damn, another video game hurdle I don't know. OLEG? I twist you around and you become a toy? I'll try it.
Dance over. Exhausted. Not really fun. Time to go to bed. Ciao.

Tom T 12:38 PM  

Took the dnf in the NE, because the Southerner in me was sure that 14D (Whole bunch) had to be MESS, as in, "We caught us a MESS of catfish yestiddy!" In my defense, it looked like both 19 and 21A would end in S (ERRS did, but Targets of reflexology, FEET, did not). So, with two S's in place, I couldn't let go of the meSs I had made. And not knowing STEFANO didn't help.

Nancy 12:42 PM  

@burtonkd -- Aha! Thank you! But, alas, that info is something I can be almost guaranteed not to know.

Big day at Wimbledon, so I haven't had much of a chance to read the blog -- even though it does look like a really good blog today. I do know I hated The Big Lebowski -- and I'm pretty sure I opted out of watching very, very early in the film. Loved Fargo, but mostly I don't like or "get" the Coens.

And I've read enough of today's blog to see that Lewis has some real lyricist chops and a very good ear. Cute and clever parody, Lewis!

jberg 12:49 PM  

A bit of a struggle for me, until I finally figured out NURSING BRA. Then it all worked out.

How I know I'm not Rex: I looked at the clue for Oscar ineligibility, thought, "that would be a TV MOVIE, saw it didn't fit, and moved on. Not until much, much later did it occur to me to preface it with MADE FOR. D'oh!

And I got BOSS from the crosses, and figured either it was some obscure gamer clang (well, not obscure, it turns out), or a sly allusion to how you had to hide the game whenever your BOSS came along while you were playing. Perhaps NSFW had primed me for this interpretation.

Similarly, having no idea that an escape was a motor vehicle, I decided it referred to a man's fleeing to the garage after a fight with his wife. I'm glad I was wrong.

@southside and others -- an EASTER EGG is something that is hidden and fun to find, but serves no other purpose. They were often written into programs (since renamed apps) or even operating systems. For example, back when I had a Palm Pilot if you dragged a finger across the screen in the correct direction a camel would dance across the screen for you.

And for all you doubters, here are some pictures of ORE CARTs. They are sometimes called ore cars.

I'm with @johnk, the alternative to ranch is "French" or "CAESAR." Fortunately, I had the SSING already, so it didn't put me off.

Also, at 19-A I'm assuming the answer is some players' surname, not a comic answer to all those initials--"WATT??"

Well the day is getting on, and the grass will not cut itself. Best wishes to Rex for a pleasant drive.

Masked and Anonymous 12:55 PM  

Ahhh. The Jaws of Themelessness are back for the SatPuz, and all is right with the puzworld.

staff weeject pick: ASL - Great to learn how to sign "I luv U". Have used it a couple times already on the PuzEatinSpouse. So far she hasn't learnt what it means, so she thinks I'm kinda actin weird. And so all's also right with that there world.
Primo all-weeject row, mid-puzgrid, btw.

Lotsa cool stuff, includin: ILLBITE. SANTANA ["Oye Como Va" was a fave song, at the time when I landed at Long Binh in Nam to begin my tour]. FLOATONAIR. IRRELEVANT. TIRESWING & its clue. RAINY clue.

Also enjoyed MADEFORTVMOVIE. Reminded m&e of the FriNite Schlockfest lineup that the bro-in-law & I viewed last night: 1. "Attack of the 50-Foot Woman" (1958), 2. "Man Made Monster" (1941). #1 had a primo candidate for that there reflexology stuff [50 FEET, after all!]. #2 was a superb early Lon Chaney, Jr. appearance; also had a neat dog character, throughout.

Thanx for the fun, Mr. Koppy dude.
And I kinda liked The DUDE's flick, btw.

Masked & AnonymoUUs


**gruntz**

burtonkd 1:19 PM  

@nancy - I knew you would need help with the car brand, and that you'd be all over Wimbledon👋🎾. Djokovic looks a notch or two better than anyone else.

okanaganer 1:23 PM  

I started brilliantly, getting NURSING BRA off the clever clue. But then ended exactly like Rex, reluctantly typing the final S of BOSS, seeing the Happy Pencil and thinking "whaat?" I could have Googled it but decided to wait til morning and see if Rex explained it, and he did, thanks Rex.

My fave MADE FOR TV MOVIE of all time was Duel, directed by a novice Steven Spielberg and starring Dennis Weaver in 1971. Dennis, driving a Plymouth Valiant, is terrorized by an old Mack truck, whose driver we never see. Classic!

[Spelling Bee: Fri 0, my last word this silly 5er.]

Kate Esq 1:28 PM  

Easter Eggs are in video games, computer games (which are generally considered a subset of video games), TV shows, movies - they’re usually fan service - callbacks or references to other elements of a franchise that fans would notice and a layman might not. Things like Finn’s Stormtrooper name in Star Wars The Force Awakens is the same as Leia’s cell number in A New Hope. Or a fabric used in crafting in the latest Legend of Zelda game being a reference to earlier games. Sometimes they are cultural references outside the universe of the franchise or piece, like the lyrics in Hamilton of “I’m looking for a mind at work” being a quote from The West Wing.

Kate Esq 1:34 PM  

This felt challenging but was actually reasonably quick, and I only had to resort to google for RCA, (GAME WARDEN proved elusive for me, and I had tentatively guessed something “garden” which slowed down that whole section.) The trivia felt obscure to me, but I was able to guess some of it after a few crosses (STEFANO, a common Italian name. WATT, a reasonable guess for a four letter name after I got w and a. ABRAM, picked from some crosses and tied into Lincoln.). I particularly enjoyed EASTER EGGS, TIRE SWING, and HYMNALS.

Lewis 1:51 PM  

@nancy -- Thanks! That means a lot to me, coming from a very witty lyricist who has an astute and gifted ear.

Anonymous 1:55 PM  

WOOOOOW did I crash and burn completely in the NW. I had FORE at 1D (LINKS is golf, but LINK... no) and when I got the BRA part of 1A, I convinced myself that a FEEDING BRA is a thing. Only then did I look at the 3D clue and bam, EPIC, total gimme. Except no, Epic Games developed Fortnite. So I couldn't see what kind of LAB was supposed to go there, and as a bonus I wanted 17A to be something-THE AIR (I had INT filled in). I also had SRO for POW because of that classic "sign" misdirection... how is POW a "sign" here? Only after filling the rest of the grid did I fix the hot mess I had in the NW.

Wrong answer highlight: I had -VMOVIE and confidently put in... CATEGORY V MOVIE. Even hurricanes don't use Roman numerals for categories as far as I know. Though I instantly realized that the Y didn't make sense at 32D.

Astro 2:06 PM  
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Magoo 2:26 PM  

Has a deaf person told you they were offended by the term "system"?

Anonymous 2:30 PM  

Mostly liked Coen Bros movies, particularly Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, and Fargo. But why did they do True Grit? I've made several runs at TBL and, except for a few scenes, IMHO, big to do about nothing. Wes Anderson isn't my cup o tea either. Too stylized. This crossword was too easy for a Saturday methinks. Whizzed through it and I'm not usually a whizzer with the Friday's and Saturday's. Yesterday's was a grinder, while Rex and many of you thought not. It's been cool in the Bay Area. Poor folks in the Southwest.

Magoo 2:31 PM  

According to Brittanica, the definition of "language" is "a system of conventional spoken, manual (signed), or written symbols by means of which human beings, as members of a social group and participants in its culture, express themselves. The functions of language include communication, the expression of identity, play, imaginative expression, and emotional release."

So in fact calling ASL a system is consistent with the definition of a language and therefore affords the respect it deserves.

Sam Ross 2:36 PM  

Easy. Too easy? I enjoy when Saturday puzzles are challenging. (Ultimately doable, but challenging.) Only write-over in the entire puzzle was TILTED before ON TILT. Some odd gimmes for a Saturday, like the DUDE and especially SANTANA. Cluing just felt very straightforward all over the grid, and I rarely had to reach for anything. I worry that the NYT puzzle is getting intentionally easier.

Anonymous 2:40 PM  

The question mark makes the usage of duds fine IMO

Wild One 2:44 PM  

I agree. “System” rubbed me the wrong way. ASL is a language.

bocamp 2:50 PM  
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bocamp 3:00 PM  

@jberg (12:49 PM) mea culpa 😔

Thx for posting the link to the ORE CART pics. I did come across that page when searching and was remiss when I wrote: "Searching Google for "ORECART" and "ORE CART" (with or without quotes) yields virtually nada…".

I have no excuse for not including that page in my write-up. There is no doubt that 'ORE CART' is current, and that ORE-CART and ORECART had some currency of old.

All of which support the inclusion in today's puz, however it's parsed.

Then, there's this rare wooden ORE CAR. Great vid! (see: 1:56 in)

And, to top it off, some pics railroad ORE CARS.
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pabloinnh 3:09 PM  

Had they ccalled it "American Sign System" it would show up in the NYT crossword even more frequently, and not just as an acronym.

Tobias Baskin 3:13 PM  

I must object ! to the clue for 7 down "holder of very small blueprints" (GENE). A gene holds one blueprint (for a protein). There are some unusual genes that get spiced or have other weirdness they might be said to have two blueprints. But that is rare and highly ! technical. Should have been singular (blueprint).

Georgia 3:38 PM  

Try Big Lebowski again. I'm far from a stoner .... John Goodman is amazing.

Anonymous 3:55 PM  

The puzzle regularly clues ASL as a “system“. I suppose all languages are systems, depending on your definition. I think it would be more respectful to the community who gave birth to ASL and scientifically, proved what it is: a fully formed grammatical LANGUAGE.

Astro 4:41 PM  
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Magoo 4:54 PM  

I don't know why a few have said that languages are systems "depending on your definition". Standard dictionaries that I've checked today describe language as a system. It's not my definition - it's a standard, accepted definition.
ASL is a language, ergo it's a system.
English is a language, ergo a system.

It's called ASL because that's an acronym for American Sign LANGUAGE. It's right there in the name.

Perhaps the need to find offense is sometimes a waste of time and that assumptions of people belittling ASL (or other things) are more fantastical than real.

CDilly52 4:55 PM  

The computer game content was tough. No idea if BOSS was correct except the crosses fit and also had no inkling that EASTER EGGS are another “game thing.” Thank for the crosses.

Wordplay was exceptional. I was completely fooled by “service accessory” and tea set fit so nicely before HyMNAL. prATtle before BLATHER. SRO before POW and it took getting all the shore downs as well as FLOAT ON AIR and SCIENCE LAB before the “precipitous” clue meant RAINY. I was a little irked at classifying a NURSING BRA as “duds,” but can easily forgive it because it was pretty darned clever especially with the double confusion of the famous candy by that name. I found my opinion of today’s opus aligns precisely with that of @Lewis.

Have to thank my niece and nephew for giving me some critical D & D background that was pertinent to the movie now streaming that they very much wanted to see last weekend on our regular movie night. Thus, BARD gave me a boost in the SW.

GARAGE as an “escape room?” bothered me even with the ? which I found confusing. I don’t think of leaving a GARAGE as an escape but suppose ne’er do well burglars might.

Still having trouble with those text/email abbreviations so the “link warning” meant exactly nothing to me. Had to just wait it out on that but enough of the remaining downs in the NW plus correcting my prATtle to BLATHER cleaned up the worst problem spots. Said yesterday that I’m working on this. My daughter would say “That’s an issME not an issYOU.”

Easier than some but a very nice Saturday full of cleverness and crunch with things to learn.

Anonymous 5:16 PM  

I wore many nursing bras, and still had trouble with the NW corner. Shouldn't NSFW have had an abbreviation in the clue? It feels like a big oversight. I kept FORE in there until the bitter end. Otherwise a fun puzzle.

Anoa Bob 5:51 PM  

Everyone who has played enough pinball games knows that if you push, pull or bump the machine excessively in an attempt to alter the path of the pinball, you will get a TILT message and the game will be over.

I think that's the origin of 43A ON TILT being used to describe what happens when frustration, aggravation, anger or the like affects a poker player's game. You start to make decisions based on your emotions and feelings rather than logic and reason. And guess what? The typical result will be quickly losing your chip stack and the game will be over for you. Everyone who has played enough poker knows what going ON TILT means. It's the NEMESIS of playing solid poker and will be a stern GAME WARDEN of sorts.

For 13D "One going out on a limb?", I tried BIRD'S WING at first. Hasn't everyone at some time seen a bird stretch out it's wings while sitting on a limb? Still kind of like that answer.

BobL 6:17 PM  

AI WEI WEI is in the LA Times puzzle!

Joe Dipinto 6:36 PM  

ASL can't have the word "language" in its clue because the L in the answer stands for LANGUAGE. Duh.

@okanaganer – "Duel" is definitely a classic. Very creepy.

dgd 7:30 PM  

I do the puzzle in the dead tree edition and thought I might have dnf’d over BOSS until Rex told me it was right. Happy that it was his last entry! I liked the puzzle though.
I thought it was definitely not harder than yesterday (other than boss.).

Anonymous 8:47 PM  

Generic comment on Wordle (hope this is OK).

Be very beware of having 4 letters out of 5, but there are a zillion possibilities for the 5th letter.

Such as having PA_ER. You can easily run out your tries by putting in one possible letter at a time (C, G, L, P, R, V, Y being possibilities). Instead you have to put in a try that you know won't work (such as GRAVY) to try to eliminate or identify a 5th letter.


Villager

Anonymous 11:50 PM  

About abbreviations, not on Saturday anyway.

L 9:12 AM  

Milk duds = nursing bra = ICK...big time.

Anonymous 3:16 PM  

Game wardens often round up hunters who hunt without permits, on private property or out of season, etc

Gambolin' Man 7:50 PM  

Escape room answer verrrrry loose.

Anonymous 10:30 AM  

Too many three-letter non words. Especially the archaic HIE.

Burma Shave 1:00 PM  

SWING SET

IFEELSILLY DRESSING here,
DUDE, if the STREETTEAM saw,
they'll BLATHER ON, ORE I fear,
spread NEWS of my NURSINGBRA.

--- ABRAM CAESAR SANDERS

spacecraft 1:19 PM  

@Gambolin man: It's where you park your Ford Escape. Or whatever.

Despite several such misdirections, this one played too easy for Saturday. It's good, with no junk and some lively answers, but just too few teeth.

I did wonder about BOSS, but left it in. Turned out to be the WOD. As for the DOD, Amanda PEET gets the sash. Birdie.

Wordle bogey, but with a ten-pointer played more like a par.

Diana, LIW 7:19 PM  

Better than a trashpanda - that's what I say.

Agree with @Spacey - no junk - fairly "easy" for a Saturday.

Lady Di

Diana, LIW 8:45 PM  

Previous comment was eaten. Once again.

Basically - agree with @Space - "easyish" for a Sat. Yet fun!!

Lady Di

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