Website with a "Conservadox" option / WED 11-12-25 / It keeps you in the dark / Pixelated, informally / Beer brand discontinued in 2010 / Nickname of the "Love Yourself" singer, with "the" / Grocery aisle enticement / Steve of "Battle of the Sexes"
Wednesday, November 12, 2025
Constructor: Brad Wiegmann and Nicole Wiegmann
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
The "EYE" answers:
I can't say this isn't original. But I also can't say that I enjoyed it. The actual solve (you know, the thing you spend your time doing) was not entertaining. I'm being told there's an OPTICAL ILLUSION but I can't see it, so that's a meaningless claim to me and thus not a fun answer to get. AMBIGUOUS FIGURE is somehow worse, because it doesn't even feel like a real phrase. Big "Green Paint"* vibes. And scattershot circles? I couldn't see what they were supposed to be doing and I didn't care. I kept looking briefly at the letters to see if they spelled anything, but that's obviously not what I was supposed to be doing. Still, I doubt if I would've kept stopping mid-solve to check how the "alphabetical order" was shaping up even if I had registered that "alphabetical order" was the organizing principle. The one enjoyable thing about the puzzle was discovering a surprise rebus square! It was like the theme all of a sudden did something interesting. But that moment faded and I was still left with a mess of circles I didn't know what to do with. Even DUCK and RABBIT weren't any help, as those words didn't have proper clues (since I couldn't see the image, I had to get them completely from crosses). It was only upon completion of the puzzle that my software went "ta da!" and showed me the image I was supposed to be seeing (or supposed to draw if I was solving on paper (?)). And yeah, that was an "aha" alright, but not one that *I* discovered in the course of *actual solving*.
What else?:
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- 37A: It keeps you in the dark (EYE MASK)
- 30D: Late-night host Seth (MEYERS)
Thomas Kyd (baptised 6 November 1558; buried 15 August 1594) was an English playwright, the author of The Spanish Tragedy, and one of the most important figures in the development of Elizabethan drama.
Although well known in his own time, Kyd fell into obscurity until 1773 when Thomas Hawkins, an early editor of The Spanish Tragedy, discovered that Thomas Heywood, in his Apologie for Actors (1612), attributed the play to Kyd. A hundred years later, scholars in Germany and England began to shed light on his life and work, including the controversial finding that he may have been the author of a Hamlet play pre-dating Shakespeare's, which is now known as the Ur-Hamlet. [...]
Evidence suggests that in the 1580s Kyd became an important playwright, but little is known about his activity. Francis Meres placed him among "our best for tragedy" and Heywood elsewhere called him "Famous Kyd". Ben Jonson mentions him in the same breath as Christopher Marlowe (with whom, in London, Kyd at one time shared a room) and John Lyly in the Shakespeare First Folio. The Spanish Tragedy was probably written in the mid to late 1580s, with its first recorded performance on 23 February 1592 by Lord Strange's Men. The earliest surviving edition was printed in 1592, the full title being The Spanish Tragedie, Containing the lamentable end of Don Horatio, and Bel-imperia: with the pittifull death of olde Hieronimo. However, the play was usually known simply as "Hieronimo" after the protagonist. It was arguably the most popular play of the "Age of Shakespeare" and set new standards in effective plot construction and character development. There were "twenty-nine performances between 1592 and 1597" and "eleven editions between 1592 and 1633", which the historian J. R. Mulryne states is "a tally unequaled by any of the plays of Shakespeare". (wikipedia)
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Getting from the beginning to end of this puzzle was a genuine slog. The fill is remarkably poor, at least in part because the theme puts a *lot* of pressure on the grid—four themers, a *lot* of fixed letters strewn about (in circled squares), and a rebus square. If you wanna see what extreme theme pressure does to fill, just look at that SW corner, oof. ACR MAA BRB BIEB and (aptly) UGLI. Because AMBIGUOUS FIGURE and RABBIT are set in stone down there, there's almost no wiggle room in the intervening answer (CARELL), and so ... you get what you get (a mess). CELLI into III over AAS into ACER was when the pain first registered. ADAY followed. I was listening just yesterday to the latest episode of "Crosstalk" (Daniel Grinberg's crossword podcast), and the guest was Aimee Lucido. When asked about the kind of fill that she hates and tries to keep out of her own grids, one of the things she mentioned was Roman numerals (check) (III), and another was four-letter "article + three-letter-word" partials (check) ("A DAY"). I don't think either of today's examples of these answer types is particularly egregious, but they're part of a weak-fill onslaught that includes EUR LORES ENEWS etc. This puzzle lacks any interesting non-thematic fill, and the thematic fill isn't inherently interesting to begin with. In short, this puzzle exists solely to get you to the picture. And the picture is neatly executed, no doubt. But man I did not like what it took to get there.
What else?:
- 1A: Protection from an infection (SCAB) — figured this was something you did or purchased (something in the "vaccination" or "Band-Aid" realm), not a thing your body does by itself. Needed crosses here for sure.
- 14A: Accusative, for one (CASE) — I think only pronouns have an "accusative" case in English. Me, him, them—those are all accusative (used when the word is an object of a verb or preposition). I, he, they—those are in the nominative case (used when the word is the subject of a verb).
- 49A: Grocery aisle enticement (SAMPLE) — baffling. Aroma? S... SALE AD? I've had many a SAMPLE at grocery stores, but aisles are too narrow to accommodate the SAMPLE distribution. I think of SAMPLEs as being handed out at the ends of aisles or in more open-flow parts of the store.
- 55A: Beer brand discontinued in 2010 (BUD ICE) — one way to know if you should delete a beer brand from your word list is if it was discontinued in 2010.
- 63A: Steve of "Battle of the Sexes" (CARELL) — of all the things I know him from, this is not one of them.
- 5D: Beverage sometimes served with cucumber sandwiches (TEA) — did Big Cucumber write this puzzle (11D: Unlucky "Wheel of Fortune" purchase for COOL AS A CUCUMBER = AN "I")
- 25D: Website with a "Conservadox" option (JDATE) — "a niche online dating site aimed at Jewish singles" (wikipedia). This is the seventh NYTXW appearance of JDATE, the second this year. It first appeared in 2016.
- 53D: Pixelated, informally (LO-RES) — my last square and I just stared at it: LO-ES. I thought I had an error somewhere. I could tell that "R" was gonna have to go there, but my brain was like "what are LORES and what do they have to do with pixels?" But no, it's just the awkward-looking and seldom-used hyphenated compound adj., LO-RES.
- 55D: Nickname of the "Love Yourself" singer, with "the" (BIEB) — hey, if you'd never heard of "Love Yourself" and you ended up writing "BOSS" in here at first, please know that I was right there with you. "The BIEB" refers of course (of course?) to Justin Bieber.
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17 comments:
Medium Wednesday, pretty much what I'd expect for a difficulty level. But as OFL said, a slog. Most of my trouble came in the SW.
Overwrites:
55D: BeEB before BIEB
60D: bAA before MAA
WOEs:
Playwright Thomas KYD (46A)
I vaguely remember BUD ICE (55A) but I needed every cross. My brain really wanted it to be BoDICE
ACR as a counterpart of down (59D). I guess it's in ACRophobia or ACRopolis?
I know Steve CARELL but I didn't know he is (was?) on something called Battle of the Sexes (63A)
Boy - this was brutal - Rex covers most of it. The connect the circle concept is totally useless to me - an afterthought to the construct and secondary to the solve.
They Might Be Giants
AMBIGUOUS is apt for this grid - the oddball rebus was interesting at least but there’s not much else here to like. FROGS, OBSCURE maybe?
Caitlin Cary
Wednesday - I hardly knew ya. @Liveprof from yesterday - I’m a Yankee fan so wasn’t so interested in either the Dodgers or Jays but the Alex Vesia story was absolutely gut wrenching.
Mike NESS
Hard to believe this sorry excuse for a crossword puzzle got past the censors.
If the figure is a duck then the two prongs on the left are his bill and he is facing left. If it’s a rabbit then those two prongs are his ears, which means he is facing right. And that’s the optical illusion. Yikes!
I found this puzzle delightful! The rabbit-duck illusion goes back to the 1800s, and I recognized it right away. The ‘eye’ part was my favorite, and the last square I completed.
More about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion
Worcestershire sauce followed by Sriracha sauce. What next, Tzatziki sauce?
I’m glad somebody’s a fan of one random rebus square, but it ain’t me. Last square in, and I thought maybe Bruno’s cousin Seth MARS used A MASK to block light. I knew MEYERS, but not the spelling. Thankfully the puzzle accepted my desperate E (MERS? EMASK?) and I could get on with my life. Not a big fan of the solving experience.
I liked it and thought it was clued very originally. Even if it may have been sponsored by Big Cucumber.
different kind of Wednesday and I liked it. I actually got a pencil and paper to draw out the figure. If I ever put in BOSS for a song called Love Yourself I'd have to hand in my Jersey card. The Patron of Sailors I had STEL - - and I was thinking STELla? Loved the graphics at the end and the one square rebus was brilliant. Hey, this was a great puzzle for a Wednesday.
Perhaps I missed an indication of a rebus, but otherwise A MASK seemed fine, and if you don't know late night hosts, MARS looks just fine, too. And that’s what I ended up with.
If you have to have roman numerals, III is a pretty legit one. It's not like MCIX, where you get a clue like "sixteenth century date'.
Random thoughts:
• Haven’t seen this illusion in a long time; didn’t remember it until it appeared and -- BOOM! -- elicited a huge smile.
• Pair of DOOKS – LORES and STELMO.
• The EYE was a happy surprise to figure out.
• Fun fact: If you turn the grid 90° to the right, it’s also a rabbit.
• I bet the most incredible moment for the constructors was when they discovered that theme answer DUCK’s C and D could be incorporated in the drawing.
• The image is so blasted cute! How cute? It rivals this uber-cute grid: https: //www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=3/16/2022 (warning, this grid has the answers filled in).
I came to the grid neutral, Nicole and Brad, and left it with a warm heart at learning you are father and daughter, not to mention aflutter with joy from the explosion of cuteness you created. What a lift – thank you both!
Here is the image in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion
Didn’t get lo-res until Rex dissected the clue/answer. No enjoyment here.
Hey All !
Interesting puz. Wasn't able to grasp how the image was coming about, but solved away, figuring once I got one of the Revealers, I would know what the puz was talkin' 'bout. Got RABBIT first, then was able to recall the AMBIGUOUS FIGURE in my mind. Aha, says I, and then hoped the website would draw it in once finished, which it did. Nice.
As Rex mentioned, you got a lot of stuff (set in place Themers) to work around, thereby getting the fill into iffy territory. But I would say it was handled pretty good.
Knew it was EYE MASK, but the ole brain couldn't get to the Rebus for some odd reason. Threw in an I, came here to check what I had wrong, and saw the Rebus. Head slap.
So, it was a connect the dots puz (with actual letters in order, A, B, C, etc), with an image of either a RABBIT or a DUCK, including an EYE as an actual EYE, plus two 15 grid spanners. Dang! That's a lot of stuff! I forgive the closed off West and East center sections. 😁
And a Rooster in the clues. Har.
Have a great Wednesday!
Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Ugh. This is one of those “there’s no there there” puzzles that the Times runs occasionally but you rarely see in another major publication. Sure, it’s a feat of construction, but it is a lot of work for really not much of a payoff. And boy did it land with a thud for me when I realized that I worked that hard only to be enlightened with AMBIGUOUS FIGURE. That’s it ? Seriously?
Obviously, I think Rex summed this one up pretty well. Hopefully, a fair number of people stuck with it and enjoyed it. Stunt puzzles just don’t do it for me as a rule, and this was no exception to that generality.
The north side went speedily because once I had the first 4 down there was an obvious OPTICAL ILLUSION. Then DUCK appeared so I knew a RABBIT could not be far behind. Thinking, but if I hadn't seen the book when I was teaching I would not know this.
Anyway, technical DNF because of the EYE rebus. I thought the host might have been Myer (?) but DORITO and ROADSTER took care of that, so then I needed something in front of mask, A MASK? MARS?
Should have connected the dots ; maybe would have seen the EYE...
Oh wow this comment is how I’m realizing that clue was “BUD ICE” — I got it with crosses and just assumed it was some Czech beer I never heard of called “Budice” 😅 (like bood - ee - chay)
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