Quite some time, antonymously / TUE 11-11-25 / 2021 Pixar film inspired by Italian folklore / Canada's features a unicorn / 1957 Danny & the Juniors hit about a school dance / One singing "The Lonely Goatherd," e.g. / First coin to use the $ symbol / Leaders in assists, typically
Tuesday, November 11, 2025
Constructor: Christina Iverson and Scott Hogan
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (if your time was faster than usual, consider that the grid was smaller than usual)
Theme answers:
- "WHO REALLY KNOWS?" (16A: "It's hard to say")
- "THAT WAS MY FAULT" (37A: It's hard to say)
- WORCESTSHIRE (59A: It's hard to say)
"The Lonely Goatherd" is a popular show tune from the 1959 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The Sound of Music.
The song is well known for its examples of yodeling, a part of the traditional music of the Austrian Alps, where the musical is set. (Maria von Trapp, however, found the yodeling in the motion picture version of The Sound of Music rendition to be lacking in authenticity.) (wikipedia)
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The long Downs helped enhance the solving experience today—six 8+-letter answers, all of them humming. Well, maybe not SERGEANT, which isn't so much humming as ho-humming, but the rest are really nice. I've got quibbles with two of the clues on these answers, though. TEAM PLAYERS is more a metaphorical concept than an actual sports concept. The person with the most assists on a team is just doing their job. Some players are great shooters, some are great passers. Both are TEAM PLAYERS. And someone with a lot of assists might also be an egomaniacal nightmare to play with. "Assists" is just a stat. Yes, it's good to share, but passing the ball (or puck or whatever) is just part of the game; it doesn't necessarily convey what the phrase "TEAM PLAYERS" is meant to convey, metaphorically. Also, I do not like the "antonymously" part of the clue on A HOT MINUTE (10D: Quite some time, antonymously). Your problem here is "HOT," the antonym of which is "COLD," but the clue isn't talking about "HOT," it's talking about the fact that a minute is not literally a "long time" (unless you've got your hand pressed to a hot stovetop—that would be A (very) HOT MINUTE, and also feel like an eternity, probably). I see what "antonymously" is trying to do (even though my software is angrily underlining the very word "antonymously" in hot red), but the "HOT" part is unaccounted for in such a formulation. Further, "A MINUTE" means "a long time" all on its own, slangily. "It's been a minute" means, counterintuitively, "it's been a while." The "HOT" part is just ... extra. What makes this even stranger is that "A HOT MINUTE" can mean a long period time or a very short period of time! It's true. So ... I like the phrase, but the cluing feels ... confusing. Not quite right.
[39D: 1957 Danny & the Juniors hit about a school dance]
The short fill on this one was far less inspiring. I don't expect short to be inspiring at all, really, but I don't expect it to be ... less stale than this: TOLET ENTRE NON EEL OTTER TAO RELO TOME YESM ROWE NYSE ASONE SFO TRON TET (à) TÊTE AAA and the horrific how-do-you-spell-that pairing of AAHS and EWW. Of these, those high on my "please not again" list are RELO (despise) YESM (come on, since when?) ASONE (awk standalone) and ROWE (appears in crosswords much more than his "fame" warrants). Further, it was disappointing to see ERAS clued yet again (and again and again and again) as a Taylor Swift thing, like, ugh, yes, that tour was massive, but Fearless and Folklore are just albums, not ERAS, please stop. ERAS is gonna appear over and over in crosswords, it just is, and it's a fine, real word, so I don't really mind, but any creative clue writer should stop using Swift to clue it for like five years. I declare a moratorium! Use her all you want in clues for other stuff, but the ERA/S angle is played out.
[25D: Singer with the 1998 #1 hit "Nice & Slow"]
- 53D: "You talkin' ___?" ("TO ME") — the generous take on this clue is that it's a deliberate callback to this past Sunday's first themer ("YOU TALKIN' TO ME"). The less generous take (my take) is that TOME is a perfectly good standalone word, go ahead and treat it that way, and if you are really committed to making it a partial, don't use the quote you Just Used Two Days Ago.
- 9A: Building with a "broad side," in an idiom (BARN) — I know this solely from the idiom "couldn't hit the broad side of a BARN," used for someone with particularly bad aim. Yes, that appears to be the one and only way this idiom is used. I like the idiom. I use it. It's colorful. Something about the alliteration. And the absurdity / anachronism of the image (I know that BARNs still exist, but most of us don't live near them, let alone throw at them).
- 24A: 2021 Pixar film inspired by Italian folklore (LUCA) — I confuse animated film titles. Badly. Esp. the four-letter ones. I was thinking of COCO and ended up writing in COCA, which ... is more Colombian than Italian.
- 36A: The "N" of NGO (NON) — NON-Governmental Organization
- 17D: An elver is a young one (EEL) — Time was [chews on straw] [whittles] you'd have to know all about EELs if you wanted to solve a crossword. Like that you catch EELs in an EELPOT and an EELER was also known as a "sniggler." Heck, the grid used to be teeming with ELVERs! And CONGERs and MORAYs. But the old ways have fallen off. These days, folks don't know what "elver" means any more. It's a dang shame. So I'm glad this clue's here to teach 'em. [OK the grid was never "teeming" with ELVERs, but you would see them!]
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- 26D: Canada's features a unicorn (COAT-OF-ARMS) — I didn't even know Canada had a COAT-OF-ARMS. But then I never saw this clue; it just sort of filled itself in.
- 28D: One of the five W's (WHY) — had this as WHO, then got the first themer ("WHO REALLY KNOWS?") and thought, "oh, that's bad." Then looked at WHO and thought "ohhhhh. It's probably not WHO." And the "Y" went in—and, appropriately, it went into the answer "THAT WAS MY FAULT."
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10 comments:
I found it easy, with one lucky guess (the LATTE/LUCA cross). When I had most of WORCESTERSHIRE filled in and read "It's hard to say," I laughed out loud. A very pleasant Tuesday.
Was Rex admitting he misspelled WORCESTERSHIRE? Or was it a misprint?
Easy. Solved without reading the clues for the long answers. Two overwrites, tmi before EWW at 33D and @Rex WHo before WHY at 28D. No WOEs.
POINT GUARD is more accurate and it fit.
Thank you, gramps, for the elver knowledge.
I found the theme to be really cute and fun. Didn’t mind the short stuff since the long downs had some teeth.
Canada has a coat of arms - and it bears a unicorn?? I hope it also has a rainbow.
Sam Cooke’s voice makes me say AAH.
Fine early week puzzle - theme not overly nuanced or tricky but it works. I think we have plenty in DC who find it hard to say THAT WAS MY FAULT.
Drivn’ N’ Cryin’
I liked the long down fill - COAT OF ARMS, AT THE HOP and CULT CLASSIC are pretty nice. I didn’t really know ROWE - needed the crosses and YESM is played. Nice to see @Pablo’s friendly OTTER.
STORMY Monday
Enjoyable Tuesday morning solve. Thanks to all those who served - I loved the year @John X explained all of the military based holidays for us.
Johnny Winter
I had a hard time getting on the same wavelength as this one, even though I discerned the theme without too much pushback. I couldn’t get past TEAM PLAYERS, which is just an awful answer to that clue. And speaking of clues, what’s up with "antonymously"? Is that even a real word - please don’t tell me that we are using made-up words in our clues now as well.
I think I was also a bit of a victim of the wheelhouse effect today (or maybe that should be wavelength, or perhaps even both). SCAB for “crust” didn’t register, for example, and of course I don’t know anything about Degas. STASES didn’t help in that section either. Similarly, ROWE is unknown and I forgot that a SETTEE is a glorified couch, lol. And so it went (that yodel clue was another black hole, for example).
At least the theme answers were all kind of fun to pull together. But Christina and her co-constructor got me pretty good for a Tuesday with the rest of it.
I don’t know about you, but this theme gave me an I’ll-be-darned “Huh!” I’ve just never thought before about the different meanings of “It’s hard to say” – Difficult to know, difficult to admit, difficult to pronounce.
The theme is so solid and interesting, it alone would make this puzzle shine. But Christina and Scott went even farther with those gorgeous long downs.
Look at them!
COAT OF ARMS
CULT CLASSIC
TEAM PLAYERS
A HOT MINUTE
Another plus today is spark. All three theme answers are appearing in the Times puzzle for the first time, as is A HOT MINUTE.
Tying it all together is perfecto Tuesday cluing, IMO, generally in that zone between unconsciously-slap-down and have-to-work-hard-for.
To me, top notch – one splendid outing. Thank you, Christina and Scott!
That was my first guess, also.
Hey All !
Isn't it pronounced War-chester-shister-shyster Sauce?
As someone who prides himself on seeing that the grid is smaller or larger than normal (WHY? WHO REALLY KNOWS?), I missed today's 14 wide. Bummer.
Neat Theme concept. Three Themers, with four Long Downs criss-crossing twixt them.
Wasn't as easy today as a typical TuesPuz for me today, which is nice. Fill wasn't terrible. Every puz has dreck. Nature of puzzledom.
Have a great Tuesday, and Happy Veterans Day!
Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
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