First-rate, in slang / FRI 5-9-25 / Superboy's crush / Roughly 62% of its claimed territory is in Antarctica / Pioneer in computer science who has a college at Yale named after her / What might be caught Red-handed? / Genre heard at many raves, for short / One-named singer in the 2023 hit "Prada"
Friday, May 9, 2025
Constructor: Willa Angel Chen Miller and Erik Agard
Relative difficulty: Medium
Word of the Day: GRACE HOPPER (11D: Pioneer in computer science who has a college at Yale named after her) —
Grace Brewster Hopper (née Murray; December 9, 1906 – January 1, 1992) was an American computer scientist, mathematician, and United States Navy rear admiral. She was a pioneer of computer programming. Hopper was the first to devise the theory of machine-independent programming languages, and used this theory to develop the FLOW-MATIC programming language and COBOL, an early high-level programming language still in use today. She was also one of the first programmers on the Harvard Mark I computer. She is credited with writing the first computer manual, "A Manual of Operation for the Automatic Sequence Controlled Calculator." [...] Hopper began her computing career in 1944 as a member of the Harvard Mark I team, led by Howard H. Aiken. In 1949, she joined the Eckert–Mauchly Computer Corporation and was part of the team that developed the UNIVAC I computer. At Eckert–Mauchly she managed the development of one of the first COBOL compilers. // She believed that programming should be simplified with an English-based computer programming language. Her compiler converted English terms into machine code understood by computers. [...] In 1959, she participated in the CODASYL consortium, helping to create a machine-independent programming language called COBOL, which was based on English words. Hopper promoted the use of the language throughout the 60s. [...] During her lifetime, Hopper was awarded 40 honorary degrees from universities across the world. A college at Yale University was renamed in her honor. In 1991, she received the National Medal of Technology. On November 22, 2016, she was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Barack Obama. (wikipedia)
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[23D: Emotionally complex, in a way] |
But I knew DRU Hill (I'm the right age) and moreover I knew LUIS Robert, Jr., who I'm guessing was unknown to virtually everyone who isn't a fairly serious baseball fan and/or a Chicagoan. Lots of people win Gold Gloves, every year, and most of those names are not exactly what you'd call "crossworthy." Matt OLSON? Matt CHAPMAN? Nick AHMED? Anyone? Again, active baseball fans yes, regular-ass people, probably not. But LUIS Robert is very large and very good at baseball, and since he's a Chicago White Sock, he's in the same division as my Tigers. So I'm familiar. Speaking of big-time Chicagoans, congrats to the new pope. Look for LEO XIV to be coming to a grid near you very soon (or never ... though I expect he'll at least be a clue for LEO in the near future). One more [LEO + Roman numeral] for the crossword pope pantheon!
Beyond names, though, this one is really tight and clean and entertaining, and actually strays very little from familiar names, terminology, and colloquial expressions. Very talky, this one. There's a mini drama about a driver whose car has broken down and who desperately needs assistance to get to the DRU Hill concert on time. He shouts at the passing cars, "DON'T YOU SEE!? I NEED A RIDE! HAVE A HEART!" In a grim version of this story, it would become a CRIME DRAMA, as the stranded motorist eventually does get picked up (on a foggy SEASIDE), but then is never seen or heard from again. His family fears the worst, but they hire Sam SPADE, who eventually discovers the missing man—he's using a completely different identity, living in CHILE with his dog, PILAF, and working as part of CHILE's Antarctic Oversight Team. But why? Tune in next season.
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[52D: ___ flakes (fruity Chinese snack)] |
I had AT ALL TIMES before AT ALL HOURS, but when none of the TIMES crosses worked, I made the change to HOURS fairly quickly. I ran into a funny double-mistake in the NE when I thought the RAJA was a RANI and, therefore, thought the CANIS MAJOR was a CANIS MINOR. So much depends on an "N." Anyway, CAKE got me out of it. CAKE is reliable that way. Mmm, CAKE.
Further commentary, in bullet-point form:
- 5A: Impossible to contact by ordinary means (OFF THE GRID) — this reminded me that I once had a crossword podcast with my dear friend Lena, back in 2016-17, called "ON THE GRID." It only lasted four episodes, but they were so fun to make. Every episode had a drinking segment, where we'd literally drink, and discuss, some alcoholic beverage that makes frequent appearances in the grid (MOET, ASTI, etc.). My favorite drinking segment by far was the SLOE Gin Fizz one. It all went so beautifully wrong. Good, silly, pre-pandemic times. Oh, and hey—the first guest we had on the show: today's co-constructor, Erik Agard! I'd forgotten that. Wow, life is ... long.
- 22D: What might be caught Red-handed? (FLY BALL) — because the Cincinnati Reds are a Major League baseball club and one of their players might do the catching of said ball.
- 36A: Fine-textured wood used in musical instruments (PEAR) — did not know PEAR. Did know EYRE. No error on EYRE did I make. No error on PEAR either. Just terror. (exaggerating for the rhyme)
- 10D: Genre heard at many raves, for short (EDM) — Electronic Dance Music. I know the term well, but my brain rendered it as EMD, which is a kind of mash-up of OMD (one musical group) and EMF (another). Whether and how the KLF factor in here, I simply don't have time to explore.
- 33D: This, too, shall pass (PHASE) — simple clue, but somehow hard to solve. Me: "... legislation? ... kidney stone? ..."
- 46D: Superboy's crush (LANA) — it's at least somewhat confusing that the original Superboy was just a teenage Superman, but then later there was another Superboy, separate from Superman, who was in fact a partial (?) clone of Superman. Anyway, I watched Smallville for a bit, back in the day, and LANA was all over that show.
See you next time.
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114 comments:
Medium-Challenging, as most Eric Agard puzzles tend to be for me.
Overwrites:
emir before RAJA at 12D
bAKE before CAKE at 21A
My 24A cracker was topped by patE before BRIE
booST (confidently) before HOISE at 27A
Set in before SLIDE at 28D
Emma before EYRE at 31D
hypeS before TOUTS at 32A
Fair TRADE before FREE at 37A
TBd before TBA at 38D
Eon before ERA at 53D
Wanted some sort of butTER instead of PASTA WATER at 57A
WOEs:
10D EDM
15A I TOO as clued
19A ALT as clued
20A LUIS Robert Jr.
25D "Prada" singer RAYE
36A PEAR as clued
49A DRU Hill
52D HAW
Needed two cheats in the NE, to get GRACEHOPPER/CANISMAJOR cross and CHILE/RAYE cross. Seemed fairly easy everywhere else, but the NE made it like a normal Saturday for me.
Got hung up on CHILE/CHINA + BEALE/BEANE, never heard of RAYE . Otherwise I enjoyed the ride. Especially HAW flakes. Used to love those as a kid.
There is a painting of Admiral Hopper in the Yale Club in NYC, Yale being her alma mater I think. It didn't help me remember her name, but the painting did occur to me at least!
Man, Grace Hopper, Raye, and forgetting that “title heroine” could be a last name (even though I’m pretty sure I’ve encountered this exact clue/answer before) made that center right very hard for me. I wanted “emma” and “teak” which didn’t even work with each other, let alone anything else.
Ready or not???
Well, we had "HE’S just Ken" one day after "I’m just KEN". Hands up if you think Barbie clues will now be a daily occurrence. As opposed to FREE TRADE, which…won’t.
Liked the puzzle a lot. Medium to hard since I did not know the names. Grew up at Sunday dinners with my forty closest relatives (grandma had 12 kids and these were all hands on deck dinners). Pasta water threw me for a loop since despite being Italian, and helping grandma make the homemade pasta , not once did I see her use pasta water. Looked it up. It is a very real thing. And it is supposed to enhance flavor. Tried it this morning with my own homemade pasta sauce and homemade pasta out of curiosity— added nothing to the flavor.
Hard Friday for me. Went 0-for-4 on Rex's names (GRACE HOPPER, DRU, RAYE, LUIS), and for the former put in adA lovelace initially, which messed up the NE.
Corresponding error in the NW was putting All the time before AT ALL HOURS.
Finally, struggled with PASTA WATER. If I've heard that referred to as liquid gold, I have forgotten it.
Confidently entering ADALOVELACE on my first pass at 11D caused a surprising amount of trouble.
Toni Morrison's first name is Chloe
Fun fact: Ada Lovelace has the same number of characters as Grace Hopper. Dropped Ada in with no crosses and thought I was going to cruise to a Friday PR. Oh well.
I confidently wrote in ADALOVELACE for 11D, which fit!
Handsome grid - only a few 3s and limited glue. Overall fill was fine - although I think it tried too hard in places. Loved the misdirect with Red-handed and BITTER SWEET was great.
CAKE covering Buck
Although it was nice seeing her - I plopped her name right in - I never like using all the real estate on a full proper name. EYRE was apt as I’m watching the new Austen show. Knew LUIS from fantasy - needed all the crosses for RAYE.
READY OR NOT
Enjoyable Friday morning solve.
Left a SLIDE
When you're playing Hide & Seek and you're "it" and you've finished counting, you say, "Ready or not, here I come!"
TIL that Ada Lovelace and GRACEHOPPER have the same number of letters in their names. That slowed me down a bit. It also reinforces that apparently we're all to know everything there is to know about Yale.
Here I come!
Similar to Johnny Mic, I had CHILE/CHINA and BEALE/BEANE, while RAYa sounds just as plausible as RAYE for yet another one-named singer (If it’s not Cher or Madonna, I usually go with ENYA thanks to CrossWorld etching her in my brain). Note: Hopefully ENYA identifies as female.
Similarly, I had no clue on DRU or TONI, so I went with DRE and TONA and lobbed up SEATS as a Hail-Mary for the boardroom group.
So I stepped on one land mine in Antartica, and fell down a rabbit hole with DRE - but I’ve had much more trouble with Friday’s past.
It took Uncle Google and me a bit of digging to find like the 10th definition of PADS - but it’s legit, and clued with pretty much the exact definition we stumbled upon. Good Friday-level clue/answer to open up with.
Hide and Seek. Ready or
not, here I come!
GRACEHOPPER and ADALOVELACE fit in the same spot.
Erik Agard for the next NYT XWord Editor!!!
Here I come!
Ada Lovelace anyone?
The “On the Grid” podcast episodes were a lot of fun! I think a lot of Rex’s readers would enjoy them. Highly recommended
It’s because liquid gold refers to clarified butter, not pasta water. Not a great clue.
Exact same overwrites as Rex. Had the E in EDM and for a second thought, “Whoever heard of a rave with Emo songs?”
Started in on the solve without even glancing at the constructors’ names. Didn’t get far before thinking that this has to be an Erik Agard puzzle. An enjoyable experience, though solving it right after reading about the summary firing of the Librarian of Congress—clearly for being Black, female, and woke—was BITTERSWEET.
I had SEATS as well, for much the same reason
Yes! I was pretty confident in ADA for too long as well
SAME
Don’t get LASS, so left the L cross with LUIS until near the end thinking it was looking for a last name (rASS maybe)?
Still chuckling over Rex's mini drama ! Enjoyable puzzle, with whoosh feelings in NE and SW, but pretty much blanked on the East/SE corner, and only got as far as GRACEH going down. Had EMMA to boot. Finally got ONE AND DONE which led to SPADE and EYRE, and whew! Nice one, really nice
Fun puzzle but the clue for play money just feels wrong to me
GRACEHOPPER was on the Harvard Mark II team that found the first “real”computer bug. From the Smithsonian American History website in an article about a Log Book with a Computer Bug:
In 1947, engineers working on the Mark II computer at Harvard University found a moth stuck in one of the components. They taped the insect in their logbook and labeled it "first actual case of bug being found." The words "bug" and "debug" soon became a standard part of the language of computer programmers.
You meant SEASHORE not SEASIDE. Loved seeing GRACE HOPPER.
And me too!
Hey All !
Toughie here. Stuck everywhere. Managed to eke out a word here and there, to get down to the NE-ish area, only to once again have to flee to Google to be able to finish. Looked up RAYE and GRACE HOPPER. I had bAKE for CAKE, giving me GRABsomething for that. Unsure why I couldn't see CAKE. But, two look-ups/cheats, puz solved.
For 5A, had Outoforder, then Outofreach, before those lovely F's showed up to get me the correct phrase.
Why is PASTAWATER liquid gold? Seems kinda nasty to me! Just drain that stuff out.
Nicely clued puz today, with clues, though, you never really know whose they are, as Malaika pointed out in her talk video thingie from Wednesday.
Friday again, yay? You'd think it should be yay ..
Anyway, have a great day!
Four F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Anyone else confidently write in Ada Lovelace at 11d with no crosses? But if you want to know more about the correct person, have a look: https://youtu.be/si9iqF5uTFk?si=QDD6HzdJPlonCI6b
This was a high quality Friday that gave me a Saturday's worth of solving. The name Erik Agard got my hopes up and I wasn't disappointed.
The NW was average late week but my ATALLTIMES/HOURS over write and being slow on FLYBALL stymied my exit. Thinking that the LUIS clue referred to boxing made little difference as either way it was just one of those completely unknown names categories.
My NE restart was slightly delayed by a WICCAN/OCCULT over write. The short downs came to the rescue and when IMOK was confirmed by CAKE I had that section down.
Coming out of the NE my PATE/BRIE write over was very brief as BEALE was a gimme. HOPPER was an unknown despite having SEASHORE.
FREETRADE gave me HOURS and I had a good start on that southern tier from both directions. EVES showed me the error of my SEND/SHIP and LOIS/LANA write overs. Guessing WATER as the other half of PASTA gave me TASTER and TEENY. My good instincts continued when SEIS and SPADE gave me HOPPER
The TONI and TIP gimmies sealed the SE corner. This puzzle was an always entertaining half hour of solving.
Clearly
Similar to 0fl's experience with the propers--knew LUIS because he was talked about as trade bait a lot, guessed EYRE from the language of the clue, didn't know GRACEHOPPER (hey did anyone have ADALOVELACE? Lots of folks? OK) no idea on DRU, and RAYE for me will always be "Singer Martha", but that's an age thing.
One of these things that I thought would be impossible but turned out to be not bad. Filling in EDM was a "that can't be right" moment but it had to be. Nice to learn about Ms. HOPPER (love the similarity of GRACEHOPPER and grasshopper) and find out another meaning for HAW, which is usually "hem and ___".
Very nice Friday WA, CM , and EA. While A Collective Mix is seldom Engagingly Amusing, this one sure was, and thanks for all the fun.
I gritted my teeth as I tried to work my way through the names, most of which I either didn't know at all or didn't know as clued. As always, I wondered about the constructor(s): Do you get pleasure out of setting up these sorts of damnable roadblocks that some people just won't know? Wouldn't you rather just trick them with clever cluing?
Well, actually, there is some of that here too: BITTERSWEET; READY OR NOT; FLY BALL. But this grid felt name-heavy. Even the names I know, like EYRE, I didn't know as clued. Gee, she sure talks about herself a lot, doesn't she, and she certainly seems highly pleased with being Jane EYRE. "TMI, Jane", I want to shout out at her. I want to say: Some people like GRACE HOPPER, who I should have known but didn't, actually accomplish something. Your claim to fame seems to have been falling in love with a man who was already married and surviving a fire.
Thought for the day: "Liquid gold" is...PASTA WATER??? How banal. I would have thought SAFFRON SAUCE. Or BOUILLIBAISE SAUCE. Even AIOLI. Something like that. I wouldn't cross the street for PASTA WATER.
Didn't enjoy this puzzle much at all. The names spoiled it for me.
"Toni" Morrison's first name is actually Chloe!
This was pretty meh for me. There's nothing objectively bad about it -- and, as others have pointed out, there's a lot that's objectively good -- but I just never could get excited. The clue for READYORNOT is my highlight; aside from that, my lingering takeaway is that OFFTHEGRID described yesterday's gimmick. Oh well.
The O.C. Had such a devoted following that I hope they called themselves the OCCULT.
When the bartender at my local pub asks what I want, I tell him to surprise me. But secretly I'm praying "BEALE".
On his day off, the entomologist went to the flea market, followed that evening by the FLYBALL.
I don't want to say she has a big butt, but her CANISMAJOR!
Really a fun puzzle. Thanks, Willa Angel Chen Miller and Erik Agard
I was at a cooking class the other day learning how to make pizza dough. The instructor made the point that if you could get pasta water as the liquid for your dough, you would end up with a great product.
Probably not the most popular opinion, but I think the colloquial phrase thing is going a little too far. They pop up too much with banal clues. Neither the phrases or the clues have any pop or import. They are just a way of saying one banal thing a different way. Robyn Weintraub excluded. RW is one of the few that gets there needs to be a really strong angle on phrases that is precise, not just something that leads you to say, I guess that works.
Also, while I’m complaining, I think there needs to be an embargo on Yale. Enough.
This puzzle took me less than a third of the time of yesterday’s - even not knowing the names - except for a guess at EYRE. I'm not sure, but is the quote for her kind of a - “finally she's standing up for herself!” moment? I wouldn’t give her any grief over being self-involved….
About PASTA WATER - I agree liquid gold is stretching it, but if you've over-evaporated your Alfredo sauce and are out of half and half, or your cacio e pepe is dry, PASTA WATER has a bit of salt and starch and is just what you need. I don’t normally add it to a red sauce, but if you’re reheating your sauce and let it simmer away while you finish a second glass of red wine, a little PASTA WATER might help achieve good coverage on your buccatini. This tip might be more useful when tariffs turn olive oil to liquid gold.
You're on a roll today! Thanks!
This one chewed me up and spit me out. I got I, TOO, PADS and PILA(u/F) and was feeling good. ButI was convinced the 4-letter turf had to be LAwn, which didn't play well with SOD. I put in AT ALL times before HOURS. Over in the East, I forgot about Electronic Dance Music and went with old crossword friend EMO, giving me a CRIME movie. And when the 4-letter singer wan't Enya, I thought it had to be sAdE.
Fortunately, once I had GRACE I somehow thought of HOPPER, saw the PLAY MONEY, and all I had to do was figure out that ONE AND only had to be ONE AND DONE. Whew!
I knew Grace Hopper right away; the Grace Hopper Celebration was for many years the only event specifically for women in computer science. But pasta water as liquid gold??? I definitely use and value pasta water but it's not gold. I was confidently ready to write in chicken fat but the c didn't seem right.
Today was the wrong day for "drink a shot every time someone mentions Ada Lovelace"
Save the water, and stir some of it back into the cooked pasta. You won't be sorry.
Easy-medium. Not exactly a whooshy solve for me, but not a particularly bumpy one either.
I did not know LUIS, PEAR, ALT, RAYE, and HAW.
Costly erasure - Eon before ERA.
Very smooth with no dreck and plenty of sparkle, liked it a bunch!
I would never have got that Langston Hughes line at 15-A except for the comma after the blank -- somehow that made it obvious. I was spared the Lovelace temptation, though, because I had OFF THE GRID already.
But reading Rex's little story made me wonder, where's Gill? I hope she's all right!
Woe is me! Rex narrowly won the battle of the names. I lost miserably! My mind kept struggling to remember Ada Lovelace, so even my frustrations were in error! FLYBALL as an answer made sense only after the crosses made it inevitable. But I did get one of the “E”s correctly—got EYRE but Enya never had a chance. Got hung up crossing CANISMinOR with RAni and never really recovered. However, after getting everything in place, have to say I liked the puzzle despite its difficulty for me.
As usual, I am 100% in agreement with @Nancy who said it better than I would have. I gave this one a go, but did not even try to muster the enthusiasm to look up any of the unfamiliar names, deciding instead to be content with a justifiable DNF. Too many walks to take, flowers to plant, and birds to watch on this spectacular spring day.
The endless parade of proper nouns and trivia made this a brutal not-fun slog. Back-to-back horrible puzzles. Here's hoping Saturday brings some relief.
YES PLEASE! No more Yale!!
Chili is not a country?
Well hidden IMO
Pretty darned smoooth solvequest, at our house. The names I didn't know were at least real short. Got GRACEHOPPER without any ADA-outtakes, due to already havin the GRAC part, after fillin in the NW longballs without any big nanosecond incidents.
staff weeject pick: EDM. Probably shoulda known this, altho ... it don't show up in the puzs all that often. And M&A don't go to any raves. Have been to a coupla caves over the years, if that partly counts...
some fave encounters of the xweird kind: OCCULT. FREETRADE [pre-two-dolly term]. FLYBALL clue. SOD & LAND sharin their clue turf. DONTYOUSEE. OFFTHEGRID. READYORNOT & its clue. Lotsa cool stuff, really.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Miller darlin and Mr. Agard dude.
Masked & Anonymo5Us
... and as promised to some hopeful Anonymous commentarian [perhaps the Pope?], in yesterday's blog ...
"Say Popesi, Please" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Me, too. One of those "I'm so smart" face plants.
I actually knew GRACEHOPPER right away which helped a ton. my big trip-up was having HAIRCUT instead of HAIRDOS. and then i had put FLYBULL because i thought that clue was a Red Bull reference! 😄 still solved in an hour though (over a few sessions) which is fast for me
The only computery woman I know from Crosswords is Ida Lovelace (and I'm not even sure the name is right, or that she's computery), so threw that down until none of the crosses worked.
Was sure that the wood must be tEAk because I had the EA, but also had all of the other letters for EY*E and EYkE didn't make sense so didn't know what to make of that until the name was most likely HOPPER, and then PEAR seemed possible.
Had Send before SHIP which slowed me down for a while in that corner but otherwise a pretty standard Friday. Finished in 19:11
OK, so it's ADA Lovelace, not IDA. Always make that mistake when I'm solving so maybe this will finally solidify it in my brain.
Enjoyably challenging for me. Many of the clues elicited only a blank stare, quite a few errors bogged me down, and five names were mysteries to me. My breakthrough came when pattern recognition got me OFF THE GRID: working off OCCULT, FRAIL, and FINS allowed me to wind my way around the S-curve of the center and polish things off with PASTA WATER. For me, a Friday on the hard side, all to the good. Bonus: learning about GRACE HOPPER.
Do-overs: me, too, for Ada Lovelace and AT ALL times; also Send before SHIP, CANIS MinOR, RAni, ONE AND only. No idea: GRACE HOPPER, LUIS, RAYE, LANA, DRU.
My understanding is that PASTA WATER isn't there for flavor but to thicken the sauce so it sticks to the noodles. Before I learned the trick of reserving some of the water for the sauce, my spaghetti sauce would be watery and not cling to the pasta.
GILL has been active on Facebook and all appears to be okay.
I enjoyed a lot of the long fill. DON'T YOU SEE, READY OR NOT, HAVE A HEART, PLAY MONEY...
Parsing INOT (which is usually IN OverTime) as I NOT, so that it dupes the I from ITOO and the NOT crossing it, is an odd editing decision to say the least.
Now, you've got me worried about Gill, @jberg. I went back and read Rex's every single word -- a real rarity -- to learn what "little story" of his made you worry about Gill. I can't figure out what it could be.
I, TOO, considered ADA Lovelace for 11D but didn’t write it in, just eyeballed it for space (fits!) Something held me back, thank goodness. My guess of OCCULT and TMI and the wrong Emo gave me OFF THE GRID and I was off.
CANIS MAJOR, great misdirection of a clue.
I wasn’t sure about 54A, thought perhaps Maya Angelou had been awarded a Nobel prize but TONI gave me crosses that worked. And while Maya did get a Pulitzer, she didn’t get a Nobel.
I finished in the NW. briefly having OmiT instead of OUST (and hating that clue, if Omit was right) which held me up. But mostly it was trying to decide what started 3D, can't, won't or don't.
FLY BALL, I considered Rex's explanation of Cincinnati Reds as the reasoning behind that Red-handed clue, but am not a fan of it..
Thanks, Willa and Erik!
I'm an old computer programmer, and I met her once, so GRACEHOPPER was a gimme for me. Settled which CANIS it was, which settled which kind of Asian royal it was.
Me too! The crosses for CHINA (v CHILE) were more than plausible unknowns.
OMG what a pleasure after yesterday! 'READY OR NOT' - classic AGARD :) ALT, HAWS, RAYE, EDM, DRU were woes but easily worked out.
Thank you, Erik & Willa for restoring my faith in the NYT Xword & myself!
Didn't get the Happy Music; decided that GRACE HOPtER seemed weird, so changed it to HOPPER which meant that tEAk couldn't be the wood used in musical instruments. Changed it to PEAR which gave me EYRE (hey, they rhyme), success!
Woke up this morning to a 999-puzzle streak. This one was medium-challenging for me and I had to piece some sectors together quite slowly. No whoosh. I was so focused on the solve that I missed my subway stop. Finished. Hit 1000 today! What do I win?
Overall a great Thursday. Not too hard, learned a bit, just the right amount of proper nouns, which I always personally appreciate as I am terrible with names generally.
As a side note, when I explain to students why DEI is important (and why the attacks on it are so confused and misleading) Grace Hopper is my go to. We can only guess what she would have accomplished if she wasn't turned down at EVERY step of her professional career. The fact that we know about her at all speaks only to how excessively determined and intelligent she had to be, far more than the male colleagues she was forced to be "peers" with for most of her life, and a great example that history (and today) is rife with people that had the chance to offer us true brilliance but were denied in order to keep the status quo in check, rather than accepting that brilliance on an even playing field.
The fact that "tell me about the king of spain" didn't cause more trouble for the average solver than "who gave us modern computing" says a lot :)
Add me to the people who confidently put in adalovelace. My certainty did me in. DNF
Yes, Toni Morrison's first name is/was Chloe. I was relieved to see that only 4 letters were asked for, so clearly the puzzle wanted TONI.
Thank you. Very interesting.
I had the Ada Lovelace association too, but dropped it right away because of the Yale angle. I am informed by someone in the NY Times comments (where I noted that as I experienced it, this puzzle ran to the obscure and imprecise) that Grace Hopper is an absolute legend, so I feel a better seeing here that so many people who know Ada Lovelace still, like me, didn't come up with Hopper's name.
Wrong about colloquial phrases, right about Yale
I solve shorter fill first, before I ever look at longer clues, because it’s more efficient (faster, and leads to greater overall accuracy). Stunned that so many people decided to go in with ADA LOVELACE in the absence of any confirmation from crosses (except possibly that second “A,” which matches the “A” in GRACE HOPPER). No point in bothering with long answers til you’ve crossed them a few times. Recipe for slowness and possible disaster.
Ha! (Spits out coffee)
DNF because I had PAWS crossing WONTYOUSEE. But this was a really nice hopper! Helped that I had GRACEHOPPER at the top of my mind.
baloney clue. CHICKEN FAT aka schmaltz is liquid gold. and, of course, it fits the grid.
Yes: ADA LOVELACE. Also AT ALL TIMES and I NEED A LIFT.
The only names that weren't Unknown for me: TONI and LANA. Interesting that as a boy, Superman liked Lana Lang; as an adult he liked Lois Lane. A pattern there?
Get ready for some Villanovas.
You need to read Jane Eyre, Nancy.; you're way off, regarding both plot and character. She didn't survive a fire, and she was no stuck-up lightweight. If you don't recognize that quote, it's because you haven't bothered to read the book, which is considered a classic for a reason. Just sayin'.
its Friday.
@Teedmn has moistly nailed it here but I would like to add that it doesn't really thicken the sauce so much as it loosens it without thinning it much, if that makes sense. That's because of the starch. Added bonus: the water is usually a bit salty and adds depth to the sauce's flavour. I religiouslly reserve PASTAWATER. It's one of my ISMs.
Yes, I immediately thought "@Rex is channeling @Gill, I today." I've been wondering about her too - thanks for the update, @Whatsername. @Nancy, the story was "There's a mini drama about a driver whose car has broken down and who desperately needs assistance to get to the DRU Hill concert on time. He shouts at the passing cars, "DON'T YOU SEE!? I NEED A RIDE! HAVE A HEART!" In a grim version of this story, it would become a CRIME DRAMA, as the stranded motorist eventually does get picked up (on a foggy SEASIDE), but then is never seen or heard from again. His family fears the worst, but they hire Sam SPADE, who eventually discovers the missing man—he's using a completely different identity, living in CHILE with his dog, PILAF, and working as part of CHILE's Antarctic Oversight Team. But why? Tune in next season." Not as elaborate as @Gill's stories but still fun.
@Anonymous. Liquid gold is simply a term for any liquid you might find beneficial. So, yes, clarified butter but also yes for PASTAWATER.
I actually check constructors' names before I begin so "this has to be an Erik Agard puzzle" meant I would encounter some cooking clues and at least one long proper name I'd never seen before. Very enjoyable.
So crossing NOT with NOT is OK now? Hmm…🤨
@Nancy: "Liquid gold" is...PASTA WATER??? How banal. I know you don't cook but you do eat out. When you order a pasta dish in a restaurant do you think they fire up a big pot of water and cook you up a fresh pot of linguini? It's more likely that they reheat the "almost done" pasta with a a healthy splash of PASTAWATER added to either the sauce or the pasta itself. Loosens things up. Agard is a "foodie". Don't lose sight of that.
Well said!
HARD.
Had slight advantage here as one of my sons used to play mandolin in a Band cover band (that sounds weird, but it's a thing) and his instrument was crafted from a slab of pear. He also played guitar, a lovely spalted maple Gibson Les Paul. I'd kill to have that wonderful instrument at hand. Ah, well, I'm too arthritic to play anyway.
Count me in on the Ada Lovelace/GRACEHOPPER confusion. And pate vs BRIE at 24A, too. Somehow got READYORNOT without thinking about hide and seek (??????).
Never ever, ever, and I mean ever heard of HAWs. where do you get these? I mean I've travelled to China and I don't ever remember eating these things.
I do remember FREETRADE. Those were the days.
@Teedmn has *moistly* nailed it here. Sorry about the typo but it's actually kind of apppropriate, no?
Hi @smalltowndoc. Succinctly said. I agree
This Friday was such a relief after yesterday! Thanks to all of our very able constructors. I always get a frisson of dread when I see an Agard byline. I know I will see names I don’t know and that clues will be clever and tricky. I was not disappointed. Some of this eas indeed tough, but crosses were fair (and prickly in spots) and I really liked all the longer fill. Thanks for a welcome Friday!
Apropos of nothing ... I decided to do this crossword with a backdrop of Canned Heat tunes. Took me back to my days in the dish pit of a bustling steakhouse when we blasted this stuff while we processed cutlery and glassware at breakneck speed and, more than occasionally, stepped out on to the fire escape to share a joint. Across the alley was Victoria's Chinatown and we would wave to their guys, also out smoking up,
I love Agard's puzzles partly because they reinforce my love of food and restaurant culture.
Easy-medium and fine.
But SEASIDE, what.
@Johnny Mic ugh same. CHIna, BEAnE, and RAYa all seemed totally plausible answers. what a gross mashup of PPP there, a sour note in an otherwise really enjoyable puzzle for me, i thought.
-stephanie.
My fastest Friday solve yet! I usually don't start a Friday with more than 5-10 fills from my first go around, so I'm always proud when I manage to eke that into a full grid. Luckily, I have a computer engineering background so I knew who GRACEHOPPER was (although I also did put Ada Lovelace at first--who knew they had the same number of letters in their name?).
I was very proud of myself for recognizing the Jane Eyre quote from my high school days, although it took me a while to confident that I was remembering correctly. I also figured out HAW immediately, although it was trivial given the fact that I am Chinese and grew up eating these (love them, would definitely recommend them if you have a chance to try them).
Also got lucky that my partner's favourite food is BRIE with crackers and Granny Smith apples (and got a kick out of showing him the clue!)
PASTAWATER gave me a bit of a headache. I was convinced it'd be something like bacon fat and even once I had most of the letters, I remained doubtful. I also got stuck on the SE corner for a while after missing the plural of 43 across and having HAIRcut instead.
Anonymous 1:14 pm
Of course the crosswords are “imprecise “! They should be.
They are puzzles with CLUES made up of tricks, puns etc.
and based on popular language, which is also imprecise.
As to obscure. This is Friday so more obscure names are to be expected. But on the other hand, the name is a standard English name so that makes it easier to get
Perhaps that's true and needs to be acknowledged, but I'm not sure why it should be celebrated. Gold? Really? Still, if it's thrilling to you as well as useful and practical, who am I to judge?
Necesito que me lleven.
Kept hoping this would turn into fun, but it stayed iffy. It's Friday. It was close enough. A few nice phrases, a few awful ones, and enough random people I don't know to slow me down guessing at the most likely letters.
I don't know who is calling pasta water anything other than pasta water. Hopefully one of the others here will promise me it's a vital phrase used by the elite everywhere.
People: 7
Places: 1
Products: 4
Partials: 6
Foreignisms: 2
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 20 of 72 (28%)
Funnyisms: 4 😄
Uniclues:
1 Cabins.
2 How to start a food fight in Marseille.
3 Shoots Katy Perry into space.
4 Rule of survival for girls in the 80s.
5 Clams, assuming you name them before murdering and eating them.
6 What God asked Adam after the apple incident.
1 PADS OFF THE GRID
2 FLYBALL BRIE
3 TOUTS PLAY MONEY
4 SAME HAIRDOS
5 PASTA WATER PETS
6 DON'T YOU SEE EVE'S?
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Four word short story about me. ON IN YEARS. CRUDE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ada Lovelace was an English countess so no way she would have had something at Yale named after her.
I had LOBSTER for caught red handed and felt pretty good about that! Anyone else?? Just me? 😅🦞
A very nice puzzle, clean and whooshy. I did remember GRACE HOPPER, but now she’s my hero: to develop the theory of machine independent programming languages — truly awesome! Though as I recall COBOL has a bit too much English, you had to type out Identification Division or some such at the beginning of every program!
Read Jane EYRE for our book group last summer and even remembered the quote!
WOEs: HAW, RAYE, LUIS but fair crossed.
I can’t believe you are the first to mention NOT crossing NOT. I’ve been led to believe this was a cardinal sin in crossword construction.
I’d say PASTA WATER is more like liquid silver.
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