Ascetic breakfast selection / THU 5-8-25 / Muddies, as water / San ___ Bay (estuary near San Francisco) / Halting speakers? / Noted silver-tongued Olympic gold medalist / Writer honored by Oz Park in Chicago / Resides a long time ago? / God honored by gladiatorial fights / Bike and Bike+, e.g.
Thursday, May 8, 2025
Constructor: Dan Caprera
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium to Medium
Theme answers:
- ROILS (2D: Muddies, as water)
- UPEND (5D: Turn topsy-turvy)
- MOPE (9D: Be down in the dumps)
- PLAID (11D: Crisscross pattern)
- BRASS (15A: Generals and such)
- HALFTONE (30A: Musical pitch interval)
- AREA (49A: Field)
- FACET (67A: Side to take into consideration)
- CHAIR (55D: Something a waiter may pull out)
- SATE (63D: Fill fully)
- MENSA (58D: Sharp set?)
- DECOR (60D: Interior design)
- TAILS (13A: Coin toss call)
- UNIT (26A: Section of a curriculum)
- SENTRIES (46A: Halting speakers?)
- HEATS (65A: Qualifying races)
My Neighbor Totoro is a 1988 Japanese animated fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki and animated by Studio Ghibli for Tokuma Shoten. It stars the voices of Noriko Hidaka, Chika Sakamoto and Hitoshi Takagi, and focuses on two young sisters and their interactions with friendly wood spirits in postwar rural Japan.
The film explores themes such as animism, Shinto symbology, environmentalism and the joys of rural living. My Neighbor Totoro received worldwide critical acclaim, and grossed over $41 million worldwide at the box office; the film also grossed significantly more from home video sales and merchandise.
My Neighbor Totoro received numerous awards, including the Animage Anime Grand Prix prize, the Mainichi Film Award, and Kinema Junpo Award for Best Film in 1988. It also received the Special Award at the Blue Ribbon Awards in the same year. The film is considered as one of the top animation films, ranking 41st in Empire magazine's "The 100 Best Films of World Cinema" in 2010 and the number-one animated film on the 2012 Sight & Sound critics' poll of all-time greatest films. The film and its titular character have become cultural icons, and made multiple cameo appearances in other films. Totoro also serves as the mascot for Studio Ghibli and is recognized as one of the most popular characters in Japanese animation. (wikipedia)
Looks like I made a small handful of errors, none of them related to the theme (?!). OCEANAUT before AQUANAUT (6D: One doing some deep-sea exploration). Is OCEANAUT a thing, it really sounds like a thing, but my software is red-underlining it like it's not a thing. Hey, it is a thing! It means ... AQUANAUT. Cool. AQUANAUT is too close to the hairspray to be useful, imho.
Anyway, screwed that up for a bit, and then had NOT GET before NOT SEE (24A: Fail to understand) and ABOVE before ALOFT (53D: Overhead). Also, because of ABOVE, I went with VIEW before FACE(T) (67A: Side to take into consideration). Absolutely no idea who this ALAIN-René Lesage is, although I feel like maybe I've seen LESAGE in the grid before, and if I look him up, I will have an "oh, that guy!" experience, let's find out ... [looks up Lesage] ... oh, that guy! He wrote Gil Blas, which should mean nothing to you unless you solved crosswords in the olden days, when you absolutely had to be able to answer ["___ Blas" (Lesage novel)], or, (more frequently) ["Gil ___" (Lesage novel)], though most often, esp. in the olden days, you'd just get ["Gil ___"]. Seriously, that's it. No context, just ["Gil ___"]. This was the kind of arcane baloney that pretty much defined the popular conception of crosswords for decades. Like so many four-letter answers (ADIT!), BLAS was just something you just *learned* if you solved crosswords. I'm not convinced that most solvers could ever have told you what Gil or Blas was supposed to be, or who Lesage was, but man, you would see this Lesage guy and his alleged book freakishly often. And there was a ten-year stretch in there (before my time) where the *only* clue for BLAS was [Gil ___]. Eleven times in a row from the mid-'60s to the mid-'70s, the puzzle used that exact clue (actually, there was one notable change, which is that the NYTXW stopped putting "." at the end of every clue sometime around 1966, so there were a bunch of [Gil ___.] clues in a row and then all of a sudden they turn to [Gil ___] clues) (I've written about crossword minutiae before, but this may be the minutest observation I've ever made). Perhaps my favorite part of this whole Gil + Blas + Lesage odyssey is I still have no idea what the book is about or who reads it. I understand invoking Lesage if, say, you 've got LESAGE in your grid, or BLAS, but it would seem to perverse to use him for GIL these days, and why oh why would you go to this guy for ALAIN when there are much more famous and handsomer ALAINs available?
A few more notes:
- 46A: Halting speakers? (SENTRIES) — I do love this clue. It reminds me of the Brady Bunch episode where Peter and Jan play SENTRIES in Hamlet, and they have to say "Halt! Who goes there!?" I think that's the entirety of their lines. Although now that I think of it, it's probably "Hark! Who goes there!?" And it might've been Romeo & Juliet, not Hamlet.
- 1A: 2022 Jordan Peele horror/sci-fi film (NOPE) — a great movie. Very movie-heavy today with NOPE and TOTORO and MIA Goth and "I'm Just KEN." I have yet to see a MIA Goth film because horror is generally not my bag. Which should tell you exactly how much of a "horror" film NOPE is (it isn't) (again, great great great, just ... not "horror," despite a gruesome moment or two ... that poor chimpanzee ...)
- 21D: Bike and Bike+, e.g. (PELOTONS) — this is a cult. Some of my friends are in this cult. To join the cult or not to join the cult, that is the question.
- 33D: Who "can get in the way of what I'm feelin'," in an Alicia Keys hit ("NO ONE") — I learned about this song from crosswords. "NO ONE" is best known to me as the answer I try to play in Spelling Bee every chance I get despite the fact that it gets rejected every time because it's two words, not one.
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156 comments:
Super Challenging for me. I had everything filled in correctly but didn't get the happy music. Checked, double-checked, invoked Sergey and Larry, still no joy. Finally I came here and saw that I was "wrong" to enter the extra letters in rebus squares (which made my grid look somewhat like OFL's, only without the small font and color). Once I removed the rebus entries in favor of just plain letters, happiness ensued. Only not a whole lot of happiness. What a slog!!!!!
Took a while, but I finally got all the synonyms for "butt" and heard the music. Had "semis" instead of "heats" for the qualifying races until the very end (my only sticking point). Enjoyed this puzzle more than I do most Thursdays.
Tech quibble with the app: this should definitely have been a puzzle where multiple ways of filling it out worked. I had the extra letters in as rebuses with no happy music. Came here and thought my rebuses checked out. Then changed the rebuses to single letters and got happy music. Kinda grumpy about the technicality.
Should we have a Gil Blas book club? (No!)
Ahoy! Due to a scheduling surprise, I shall be away for a few days, returning on Monday. Wishing all a scintillating weekend!
This would have been a lot more fun to solve on paper where I could have written the extra letters outside the grid to remind me. As it was I agree with @Rex and others that it was kind of a slog to remember the extra letters, although since the crosses made sense with the second or penultimate letters alone in the boxes I didn't make the mistake of entering them as rebuses.
Help! Which plain letters? I tried both the outside to the grid and/or inside ones. No joy.
Alicia Keys' feelings get interrupted by listening to Herman's Hermits recordings? How odd.
Hands up here for continually trying NOONE in Spelling Bee.
An unpleasant solve in so many ways. Just not on my wavelength at all today.
Ha! They certainly would interrupt mine.
A total slog for me. Filled in the NW super quickly and figured there was something going on with missing letters, but what threw me for the whole puzzle was the clue for ROILS also works just fine for OILS. If you put oil in water does it not muddy the water? So I figured there must not be any missing letter words on the top section of the corners. So I wasn’t looking for them. It’s why PLAID held me up for so long cause I know zero about fashion or clothing styles or any of that, and I figured “eh I guess LAID is some term I just don’t know.” The theme is fine but you can’t have a clue/fake answer be an actual plausible answer.
What a waste of space. One of the least enjoyable I’ve ever done. Random bs theme. And, you don’t write “in pen”.
Just ugly. Ugly puzzle, ugly idea - horrible to solve on the app (no guidance on which letters go where, or which don’t even get entered at all). Sorry, I’ve been doing the puzzles religiously for the better part of a decade now, and this is the worst solving experience I have ever had. The rapid downward slide from quality toward gimmickry continues over at the NYT. Time for some fresher ideas and (definitely) a different approach/philosophy over there.
gonna get in the "lame" line. clearly not designed for app solvers. there was no place to write the missing letters. on the plus side, no "take the second letter, turn it over, add IDK to the end, and you have a lame-o-nym of the puzzle creator's best friend." Zippy
Just kind of meh. Knew there was a missing letter early on. Knew it had something to d o with BUTT. When the puzzle was finished you could see the symmetry of it which I guess is clever. BUTT, as you were solving it seemed sort of random as to where the missing letter would be and that was a bit annoying. No ifs ands or BUTTS, this was not one of my favorites.
Tricky for awhile but once I saw the revealer, pretty easy. I knew there was either a rebus or missing letters, it was just a matter of figuring out where. For awhile I thought maybe every answer along the sides had missing letters around the outside, but it soon became clear that only a few answers were that way. It was clever but, as Rex says, not much fun.
The little SW corner was a problem, since I didn’t know MIA, THOU was a mystery as clued, and IOTA somehow wouldn’t come to me. (H)EATS was the only obvious thing there!
So Abe had been seeing his psychiatrist for years and one day the doctor says "Abe, you're doing very well. We've made as much progress as we can make. I'm recommending that we end our sessions." And Abe says "Doc, no! I can't possibly live without you." The doc says "Don't be silly. You'll be fine. I'm not abandoning you -- here's my private number. If you need me any time of the day or night, just call me." Abe grudgingly says okay.
For several weeks everything seemed fine, but then very early one morning the doctor's phone rang. It was Abe.
Abe: Doc! I had to call. I just had a very disturbing dream.
Doc: What was it?
Abe: In the dream, you were my mother.
Doc: Oh, my! What did you do?
Abe: Well, I wrote it down, like you taught me.
Doc: Good. Then what?
Abe: I had some breakfast.
Doc: Okay. What did you have?
Abe: Some coffee and a piece of toast.
Doc: You call that breakfast??
Did not use or think about the theme at all during the solve. Quickly figured out that some words would have an extra letter 'outside the grid', and mostly solved using the ones I knew would not.
I know of both PELOTON and TOTORO, but not the spelling of either one. 'O' was my third guess for that cross, after A and E.
Never a good sign when the first two across answers are both WoEs. And both are fairly basic fill that could easily have been clued fairly.
Same!
Maybe the letters were supposed to be outside of the grid visually and this was the only way to make them visible.
I really enjoyed this puzzle--found it much tougher than OFL. Took me time to figure out that it wasn't the word "BUTT" on each side. The "U" in "UNIT" (26A) seemed to confirm that it was going to be "BUTT". But then that just didn't work. Once I figured out there would be 4 different synonyms for BUTT, and that the spaces were symmetrically placed, I was much more successful. But I definitely relied on those once I got going--helped me figure out MENSa, FACEt, etc. Once I looked at the completed grid I was especially impressed with all the very real looking answers (minus a letter). But.... no happy music. Just like Kitshef, had to go through the puzzle and figure out that PELeTON was wrong.... that O finally got me the happy music. Great puzzle, Dan, impressive and Thursday-worthy! : )
I too am stuck. Tried full rebus and what I considered to be the plain letters also. SUPER frustrating!
Nadie puede interponerse en el camino de lo que siento.
If you're asking yourself, "When was the last time the New York Times crossword editors elected to treat us to a butt-centric puzzle, something equally ARSE-forward, maybe a convention of the ends creating a prominently displayed cat-like posterior so to speak?"
Allow me to treat you to a fond walk down memory lane to the meeting of the butts of February 12, 2023.
The Bum Convention https://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2023/02/12
That puzzle went more to the center of things where this one is sporting more of a rim {erm} situation, butt those were simpler times. Now we accept this malarkey as readily as we accept so much inanity every day.
This puzzle would have maybe been more fun printed out. On the app it was annoying to solve and the final graphics don't help make it better. Lots of new people to meet in this one so that made for slow going.
Speaking of nubs, the nub is the part that is not worn-down, the unnub part wears down. I thought everyone knew this nubish lore about nubs.
People: 9
Places: 1
Products: 6
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 4
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 25 of 78 (32%)
Funnyisms: 3 😐
Tee-Hee: URANUS. BRAS.
Uniclues:
1 Upset mum.
2 What I have each New Year's Eve.
3 What a hillbilly cannibal with the blurry photo does.
4 Broadcaster specializing in sports from the 7th planet.
5 One doing deep dives into oceans of lotions.
1 SAD ANNUAL (~)
2 ANNUAL SAD
3 EATS ALIEN FACE
4 ESPN-U (URANUS)
5 SUPPLE AQUANAUT (~)
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: 🎶 I see Sydney, I see Perth, I see someone's undersherth. 🎶 and 🎵 Some cover your fanny, some cover your granny, and daddy likes the nanny's, but up above the French just love what covers up their hootenannies. 🎵 CAMI SOLI.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m a lifelong Stooges fan and I’ve never seen that commercial. Love it! Thanks for posting it!
For some reason I thought the word outside the top of the grid was bUM, not RUMP. If you correctly solve every letter in the grid but have an error on an invisible letter that’s not in the grid, is it still a correct solve?
I'll join the chorus of those annoyed that my online solution using rebuses didn't check as correct even though it was. Figured out which letters to pull but still ...
Loved it! Was able to get the theme right away from UPEND and MOPE, and then chip away on the sides. When I reached the revealer, it made the lower part that much easier.
Gives me a better appreciation for being a middlin' good solver. Able to enjoy cracking the code and finishing up, but not so good that I found the theme boring and "a slog". Sorry Rex
Other than the theme, not too much difficulty. URANUS and SATURN (more or less symmetric!) were not hard to figure out; same with PELOTONS. Had ANDRE before ALAIN, and SVELTE before SUPPLE.
LIVETH strikes me as a cool word, will try to use it today somehow . How about "You haven't LIVETHed until you've seen NOPE!"
Well done, Dan. Also appreciated the theme answers were all words in themselves, which seems to be a point of honor for constructors.
Putting oil on water makes it less choppy/turbulent, so really the opposite of muddying.
Totally agree. Hated, hated, hated it!
For Anonymous: Regarding the NYT Spelling Bee...I don't try NOONE any more, but I do try ANNUITANT, INTINCTION, and MONOTONIC, all of which are perfectly good words. They're always rejected. How can we fix this?
There is no such thing as a half tone in music.
It's half step.
No fun. No way to put in extra letters outside grid. And I have been doing the puzzles for over 50 years…
Dash, you’re right: I see the logic in retrospect, and I probably did it the way I did because those were the first answers I saw. It made it easier to keep track of the BUTTs along the way when the letters were written in, unlike Rex who had to try to keep track of them doing his solve—but then again, he didn’t have the annoyance of going back and changing them all. I guess the puzzle forces annoyance, either during or after the solve. I like Gary’s point below that this is a puzzle that would reward a paper-solver.
Annoying. No way on app to enter letters outside grid side grid.
A prime example of why I don't care for Thursday puzzles. If all puzzles were like this one I'd forever quit doing crosswords.
Hey All !
Me: "My name is RooMonster, and I'm a cheater/Googler"
The Group: "Hi, RooMonster."
Yes, tis true, had to run crying for help to good ole Goog. First for MIA (what a cool last name, however), and also for TOTORO, as I had TOTOLO/OLDER. Went over grid several times, and just could not find an error. ORDER VS OLDER, pish posh!
Interesting puz. Had to write on a piece of paper which BUTT synonym I was looking for to keep track of the letters needed, in order to make sense of the missing letter words. Oddly enough, there's no ASS.
Strange animation at the end also. Thanks Rex for capturing the split-second red letter BUTT things.
@pablo
Hooray! The actual name! That earns two points! Good on ya, mate.😁
I'm sure this was tough to construct, especially getting the letter-dropped words to still be actual words, meshing with the rest of the fill. And didn't even realize they were symmetrical until Rex pointed it out. Extra tough! Thanks for the effort, Dan.
Happy Thursday!
Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
I thought it was a little challenging! I liked it. I’ll be the outlier. I mean, I didn’t LOVE it, but it was cute. ☺️
I had everything filled in and wasn't getting the music. Went in and switched all the outside letters in. Nothing. Switched them all back out and that randomly worked!
Couldn’t agree more!
So how are you supposed to fill this in ? Just leave out the first letter? I’m not getting it?
Hated this one. I figured out the missing letters pretty quickly but even looking at the theme clue didn’t figure out that they spelled something. Even if I had, it wouldn’t have really helped me figure out exactly which clues should have missing letters.
Lots of regular clues I either didn’t know or were clunky. This was the hardest Thursday in a while.
I’m usually in the “C’mon Rex, don’t overthink the theme” camp, but today have to agree. Solving online, there is no place to put the extra letters to help you keep track of where and what they are. I just solved as a themeless, knowing there were some kind of BUTTs hanging out. Even with the graphics, the red letters didn’t stay in place long enough to be able to read them.
As a member of a cycle club, I notice every spring that we get some people who are pretty strong for a half an hour to an hour, then crap out and also have no IRL experience with traffic, pace lines, or general hazards. Thank you Peleton! They get it sorted out eventually and add interest to this wonderful pursuit.
Agreed that NOPE is not horror, but does use tropes and has some jump scares. OTOH, I watched The Substance with my wife, who is horror-averse. Despite being marketed as a “body horror” movie, I thought that just meant the horror of watching your youthful bloom fade away when that is what your main asset for the world is - nope, actually turns into full on horror by the end.
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Lewis, I think you’ve used up your allotment of Personal Days already this year. I expect a full best clues of the week report on my desk Monday morning or you’ll be hearing from HR.
much easier to solve hard copy, which I did this morning. But I did it last night online and it was a slog. I thought for sure I'd have to Rebus the extra letters in, but the happy music came on. end of story. I didnt even bother to figure out what the extra letters spelled. I was done. not a fun puzzle at all
Well excuuuuuse me but I thought this was a lot of fun, probably because in my long history of doing crosswords I have run into the trick of putting letters outside the grid but also because I solve on paper, which makes doing that easy. Was writing letters outside the left margin, ran into the revealer, had the T and the U and the S, and decided we were looking for four-letter synonyms and had a good time finding them.
No idea about TOTORO, didn't know ALAIN, and hand up for ININK before INPEN. Also thought CHOU might be a "nice chunk of dough:. Too clever by half. I think of LIVETH as present tense, probably because of having sung "I know that my redeemer LIVETH' more than once.
Today's highlight is of course PABLO. Right @Roo?
I enjoyed your Thursday offering very much, DC. Thought the theme and execution were Devilishly Clever and thanks for all the fun.
Did you catch the hidden Elon Musk reference? Say the answer to 24A really fast three times.
When I took the Scholastic Aptitude Test there was a huge container of coffee for those who needed to get the ol' brain to functioning. It was the SATURN.
A BUTT themed puzzle with four synonyms! I'm praying that URANUS didn't bother you during the solve. But if so, put some Mayo on your ANO and admire the BR-ASS sneaking out of the grid at 15A.
Loved this cheeky puzzle. Thanks, Dan Caprera.
I had the same problem! A weird technicality from NYT, but I guess maybe a true rebus answer would go in both directions?? I broke down and autuchecked and all my rebus squares were “wrong” despite containing the correct letters.
Nope was absolutely clued fairly. And it's been clued that way before. It was a hit movie from a lauded director that came out relatively recently.
I had the same reaction to the nub clue. The nub is what's left!
Yeah, really tough. I got the revealer pretty early, but keeping track of the hidden "BUTTs" was hard. I figured the symmetry pretty late, and thank goodness for that. This is a really impressive construction with a good revealer, but it doesn't quite translate to an enjoyable solve (in other words, what Rex said). I'm not sure how you could make it more fun; seeing the BUTT synonyms animated on the app is sort of cool, but even those disappear, and you could never do that in the paper. Hmmm...
Other stuff:
-- Favorite entries: AQUANAUT and OCCLUDED.
-- Good clues for ALI, LIVETH and (S)ENTRIES.
-- Has anyone ever said, "single ELIM"? NOPE, NOONE. Ever. Not even the "tourney" hint makes salvages this entry.
-- MTA made me chuckle for the dumbest of reasons: Just last night, I was walking from a midtown Manhattan dinner to Grand Central to catch my (MTA) Metro-North train home. Walking down Madison and not really paying attention, I see a building that says MTA inside the window, and I am surprised I have made it to GCT so quickly. I check the cross street -- 49th -- and I realize that I had been looking at a mirrored reflection of an ATM sign in the local Chase branch.
I twisted myself into a knot early on by "borrowing" the seemingly extra U from ESPNU to turn PEND into UPEND. I then tried borrowing extra letters from other words to complete the partial words, which sometimes worked but eventually I gave up and figured out most of the partial words from their crosses. No fun.
I think I would have enjoyed this much more had I solved on paper. I got the revealer pretty early, and figured out the “trick”, but it was hard to visualize the missing letters in the app. Solving on the app felt like a chore
Excellent Thursday puzzle. Medium-challenging for me. I *did* use the various BUTTs to help in areas where I was briefly stuck. Loved this.
Yup
Speaking of bums:
Q: What anagram do the outside-the-grid words spell?
A: Uh..Trump's arrest.
On Wordplay, the constructor states that this puzzle fulfilled his lifelong childhood dream of publishing a long, elaborate BUTT joke in The New York Times. Bless his heart.
Yikes. This puzzle was clever but I think I have too many limitations in my ability to keep track of/visualize the end result. Even after being told by Rex that there was TUSH and SEAT I had to stare at the completed puzzle for quite a while to find them (running down the sides). This was definitely a situation where solving on paper would have helped ME.
So. (And forgive me if Rex mentioned this…I do read him) I guess I tend to think of BUTT as “the bottom”…so I had a hard time “getting” why the BUTT would be OUT the top and the left “front” sides. Maybe I’m having a brain glitch.
Believe me — it was just as bad if you solved it in the app!
Hi folks! Been lurking of late but had to stop in to say how much I like this puzzle! I solve on paper so just wrote the extra letters outside the grid. Started out with TAILS and BR ASS and wondered if all the theme entries would be BUTT-associated. NOPE, but URANUS and ANO did flush out the TUSH.
Much harder for me than for OFL, as usual. I honestly had so little filled in after reading most of the clues I was convinced I wouldn’t finish. BUTT I soldiered on in @Lewis’ “faith-solve” mode. One thing led to another and the whole grid was finally done. The theme assisted a bit, as when HALFstep was screwing up the east - no 4-letter BUTT words start with SP that I know of. Seeing the symmetry of the extra letters helped a lot.
SADly I did end up with OlDER instead of ORDER. Hi @ROO! Not knowing TOTORO was no help. Sounds well worth checking out, though.
Some non theme entries were more interesting than the usual fare: TOOK A DIG AT, OCCLUDED, BEREFT, AQUANAUT, PLAIN TOAST with its clue. Nice clue for SENTRIES, as @Rex mentioned. Also fun to see SATURN and his dad URANUS sharing the grid. OGEE, my SB friend, bailed me out in the SE. And yes, I have tried NOONE to no avail.
One NIT - who says TAUTEN?
When I was growing up we had a copy of Gil Blas but I don’t remember reading it. Sure couldn’t come up with the author’s name without crosses.
Thanks Dan Caprera - looking forward to your next one. Or maybe I’ll look REARward in the archives. ;-)
DNF. Probably the worst crossword I've ever had the misfortune of attempting.
What REX said SE corner last to fall waiters pullout corks
I had “semi” instead of “HALF” for -TONES. Double malapop
Congratulations, PABLO! I was excited to see you in the grid.
I saw the trick pretty quickly, with (U)PEND, followed fairly quickly by (MOPE), (P)LAID, and (T)AILS. Since that spelled out the name of our current president, I thought it was going to be a political message--possibly TRUMP Sucks, since I had BRAS(S)
How do I enter this in the app to get the solve? I’ve read the comments and am still not seeing it…
I agree. Maybe those of us who had to figure out and use the butt synonyms appreciated this one more. I thought it was hard - took me 50% longer than average Thursday - but very rewarding when I did figure it out.
👏👏👏😁
Congratulations, PABLO! Nice to see you in the grid.
I got the trick with UPEND, and pretty soon I had TRUMPS wrapping across the top of the puzzle. I was hoping for TRUMP Sucks, but no such luck, just lots of butt words.
Nice to see all that Spanish, including a bit of math, up top, and the father-son pair of Greek gods.
I had a PLAIN bagel before my TOAST, which was about the toughest thing in the puzzle; well, that and deciding between HALF-step and HALF-TONE. I already had CPA, so I didn't fall for the IN ink misdirect. I mean, who says "IN PEN?"
I got lucky, guessing NOPE and TOTORO. Had to wait for crosses for ALAIN, though.
Paper solver here. Really enjoyed it. Theme helped me with HEATS. Had SEMIS at first, but knew it wasn't TUSS! Thanks for a fun puzzle, Dan.
I normally really enjoy Thursdays but this was awful
This sort of theme is stupid and pointless for the overwhelming mass of online solvers. I finished the puzzle and I sort of had a mental inventory of the missing letters, but I neither knew nor cared that each side's missing/additional letters spelled a synonym for 'butt.'
On the tough side for me. Solving on paper would have been easier because writing in the margins.
WOEs - TOTORO, ALAIN, PABLO, MIA, and PLUM
Ask a friend help on spelling PELOTON .
Costly erasures - case before ITEM, INink before PEN, a was before THOU, and NOT get before SEE…tough solve.
Clever but painful…or what @rex said.
Disagree today about "Oceanaut", "AQUANAUT" seems much more familiar to me, maybe because of Jacques Cousteau? And what hairspray are you referring to, Rex?
This was me, I failed to notice that I was not logged in.
NASA went in, NASA came out and I fled to the next section. NACRE, IN PEN gave me UNIT with the U sitting outside the grid. I re-entered NASA now that I had permission to put in TAILS for 13A. After the western side of the grid was filled, I saw TUSH and said, oh, BUTT OUT and so the theme proved to be. Like Rex, I never saw the symmetricality of the outer letters which would have helped my solve.
But nothing was going to solve my DNF of misspelling PELaTON crossing the WOE, TaTORO. My last letter in was that R because I didn't know the film and was confused by the clue, “Primate, for humans”. (Yes, I did briefly have Older in for that answer, to my chagrin).
I don't remember ever seeing a Mustang with a T-TOP so that held me up in the SE.
Thanks, Dan Caprera!
I do realize that most of you solve online, but I generally don't think about that fact--I just wrote the missing letters in the margins outside the grid, which made it a lot easier to see what they spelled.
I've never read Gil Blas either, but until today I always felt that I should have. Now, given Rex's attitude, I think I'll reconsider.
could be worser -
Basic
Linear
Algebra
Sub[routine|program]
clued like - stat unit in R or SAS
I think solving this in ink on the page would be MUCH easier. But in the App it was a huge drag.
Thought this was a clever use of digital tech. The animated finale after getting all the fill correct was fun. Getting there not so much. Got the trick very early but being unable to record the outside letters on the app meant I had no clue about the BUTT puns. Thought it was just letters sticking out. Also had to Google NOPE to be sure it was real, and had to Google TOTORO to get it at all. Loved the clue for (S)ENTRIES.
I enjoyed puzzling this one out. Already having R-U-M-P outside the lines when I got to BUTT OUT, I understood what I was looking for on the other three sides. That definitely helped me in the SW, where I knew I needed an H to complete T-U-S-H and an R to begin R-E-A-R, and in the SE, with the final T on FACE. I really admired the construction, the balance of the four four-letter BUTTS, and especially the fact that the theme entries were real words.
This might work on paper where you can write the outside letters down but the fact that there’s no pattern in which rows had missing letters made it awful on the app. I hated it.
Right on. 2 points down, 2,000 to go.
Like others here, this would've felt more fair to me if it had accepted the outside letters as rebus answers
Hey thanks. Made my day, which tells you something about the kinds of days I have.
RP, you should promote a "crossword media club" from your blog where once a month everyone is invited to consume a piece of media that's referenced only in crosswords and is otherwise lost to even relatively erudite consumers of popular culture. Ideally, the media should be referenced in the crossword in the prior month.
So this month, everyone's reading Gil Blas. (Which I just looked up. A French novel published between 1715 and 1735? Oof.)
Next month, watch AMAHL and the Night Visitors (it's on YouTube!)
After that, how about OMOO by Melville?
I'm sure there's a million more I'm missing.
Found this quite challenging. Then once I saw the trick things became much easier and quite enjoyable
Fill in the little letters and it works. Very frustrating
Wow, I’m in the minority here. It was tough but not a slog, And I thought it was really creative. Figuring out that the missing letters spelled synonyms for butt across the edges helped me fill in the right answers. After many Thursdays where I thought the puzzle was too easy, this one seemed right for a Thursday.
8D is present tense if punctuated thusly: Resides, a long time ago
I did not see "not see"
One of the most un-fun slogs in a long time. In addition to a theme that makes it impossible to visualize the actual theme, so much fussy/tricky cluing. I solved in a couple minutes over my Thursday average, but it felt like walking through a swamp the whole way.
27D was possibly the worst fill of the week, or the YTD, so IN INK messed up the W.
HALF NOTE clobbered the E.
As for the S, my eye saw 55D but my pen went to 68D, where the waiter pulled out a MENU.
It worked better on actual paper, where you could write the extra letter outside of the grid.
Thought the Halting Speakers were BUTTINSKIES
Some of the specific words used really confused me as to how exactly the theme worked.
To wit:
BRASS became BRAS, thus putting "ASS" partly outside the grid.
And TAILS (another word for butts) became AILS.
I just couldn't square how those two different mechanisms worked together or what they had to do with the other truncated answers. Turns out I was misinterpreting how exactly the theme was being executed.
I remember there was one puzzle by my least favorite constructor (whose initials are AES) that stood out as being the worst puzzle (for me).
I've changed my mind. THIS was UNEQUIVOCALLY the worst puzzle I've ever encountered in all the years I'm doing the NYT puzzle. More like this & I'll never be back. Sorry, Dan, for the scathing review but I do thank you for making me lose my streak :)
Bad all around. Theme wasn't clever, some impossible trivia, niche words, and vague clues. Put me in a bad mood for the day. I like a challenge, but this seemed unsporting.
Is this here ThursPuz tryin to moon us?!
In any case, I thought havin URANUS as an inside puzthemer was kinda extra-neat.
Also kinda neat: That all the BUTT-generatin inside-the-box answer parts were all words, in their own right. [OILS, AILS, BRAS, PEND, etc.]
staff weeject pick [of a mere 11 options]: NIT. It got the U added on, to get TUSH/UNIT.
some other fave stuff: OCCLUDED. SATURN & URANUS. AQUANAUT. ANO clue [which definitely did not hold the mayo].
Thanx for the BUTT pokes, Mr. Caprera dude. U really threw the BUMs out.
Masked & Anonymo11Us
... 11 U's in today's NYTPuz! Plus 2 more butt-out ones! The runtpuz title says it all ...
"Bless You!" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
p.s. Word has it that the newly-elected Pope will be D. T(RUMP). Vatican wanted to make a tariff deal and be able to film lotsa new movies on their grounds. sooo ... Holy Sh*t!
Yep. I agree that being able to solve on paper a definite plus today.
He is referring to Aquanet. I find it odd Rex knows Aquanet, because I’m 70 and always thought of it as “old lady” hairspray. Like for the old 50s/60s old lady hairdos where they’d put on a “hairnet” on to keep their beauty shop curls in place.
Too late in the day for it to matter, but the X, Pearl, Maxxxine trilogy starring Mia Goth and directed by Ti West is simply amazing. Yeah, there's blood, but I'd not call it horror.
Suspense, yes, comedy, yes, sex, yes, commentary on fame + sex + self, yes.
Absolutely wonderful cinema.
And jberg, I only started solving online when it became a little bit cost prohibitive to have NYT delivered in “the Heartland.” I’m not complaining…I’m used to it now.
Just write in the answer as incomplete…for instance, NIT for UNIT, HALFTON for HALFTONE. To say another way…what you will put in the grid is “real word or words” ex…”half ton (truck)”. No rebus. Yeah. It was a bit confusing for doing online (at least for me). Hope this helps.
Same!
Why?
Jberg….when you say “logged in”…not sure what you mean, BUT (for whatever reason) sometimes this blog site will “default” to Anonymous. When you want to post (at bottom) there should be a little “carat arrow” that points down if you don’t see “your avatar” and you can adjust it before you post. Gah. I just know I can go for VERY long periods of time without it happening but it will happen occasionally for no apparent reason (that the “tech” portion of my brain…small…can figure out)
After getting 39 across, I figured out what the trick was but I had too many blanks and errors to make sense of it. So I took a screen shot, and in Photoshop I added the outside letters that I knew were correct, and saw that they were evenly spaced, which helped get the missing ones and fix the errors. Whew!... it is just as painful to explain that as it was to do it. But got there in the end.
Speaking of errors: 11 down "Crisscross pattern" = GRID, etc. And then there are the ones that make sense even without the extra letter, like FACE for "Side".
Oh well, not too many Unknown Names (PABLO MIA), and TOTORO was a gimme. The movie that introduced me to the awesome Studio Ghibli films.
That is funny!
I had everything filled in and only came here to figure out how to make it work. Poor technical execution/user experience.
Sir Hillary…the ATM mirror image made me laugh. That is totally something I’d do.
Thankfully, the Pope Trump rumors were wrong. The new Pope Leo *is* an American-born dude, tho. A first. He seems like a real nice choice.
btw, in sorta related news, I understood all them partially buttin-out words, except for 1-Down’s TNASA…
M&Also
I loved this puzzle to death. It's going into my POY list and, so far, it may be the one to beat. But there are 113 comments ahead of me -- so will anyone even know?
I had hints -- ROILS; TAILS; HEATS; HALFTONE; BRASS; AREA; CHAIR -- but couldn't put the trick together. Didn't initially see PLAID; SENTRIES; FACET. My biggest hangup was ABOVE instead of ALOFT. I knew ABOVE had to be changed to something, but couldn't come up with ALOFT. And therefore I thought I'd never solve the SE.
I love the fact that there were no circles or gray squares to let me know where the themers were. Much crunchier! I also loved the "every fourth square" symmetry which helped me immeasurably.
Why am I late posting? They were predicting a beautiful morning with a chance of a thunderstorm by 2 p.m. So I went out early and took the puzzle with me to the park. Of course it won't rain; they're always wrong! It's still beautiful out -right now - but there was some orange in the radar after 2.
Anyway -- into my POY file this goes. Gorgeous construction -- but even more important, loads of challenge and early bafflement for the solver.
Pretty unpleasant Thursday
Juvenile theme, though it worked pretty well conceptually, if not technically for app solvers. As pointed out a few times, might have been a lot easier on paper
DNF at PELeTON/TeTORO, that whole section was rough for me - a cycling cult, a Japanese film from 1988, a song from Barbie (which I’ve seen and enjoyed at the time but have mostly forgotten), and something from an Alicia Keys song (inferable off a few letters, but still?!)
Looking forward to Friday.
Worst puzzle in quite awhile. You can sign "in ink" or with a pen but NOT "in pen"
this puzzle was total bs. figured out all the clues easily enough, figuring out how they wanted the grid wasn’t worth the effort. yawn.
To all of you who thought that maybe, just maybe, you would have enjoyed the puzzle more if you'd solved on paper, the answer is YOU ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE ENJOYED THE PUZZLE MORE, THERE IS SIMPLY NO COMPARISON!!!
Evidently a large number of the offbeat themes that the Times publishes are things that its app can't handle. How often does this happen? It seems like every other day. What a shame -- because writing letters outside the grid -- which is what I and all the other paper solvers did -- is not exactly rocket science. You all could have had so much fun today!!!
@egsforbreakfast 9:29 AM
Your brain is a felony.
What a pain to figure out how to fill in the grid. Come on peeps.
@M&Also - the question is when will we see LEOXIV in the puzzle?
Great joke.
What a giant pain in the ...
This had me puzzled! I knew some answers had to overhang the grid (probably) from the heads/TAILS answer. Once I had the revealer the question was if ALL the edge words extended beyond, and if they all were synonyms for butt. I didn’t seriously consider whether there might be u-turns, or some other letter switching, but those thoughts crossed my mind. And then it became clear that no, not all edge words, and not just those abutting blockers, and no, not all were synonyms. So then the outside letters spelled the synonyms! Which was helpful in solving i.e. FACET.
Solving on paper would have helped me see the symmetry and remember what synonym was under construction. But they weren't rebus answers so I didn't try to enter the extra letter in the square, and the happy music played eventually. It definitely wasn’t a fill in the blanks puzzle, like so many recently.
Funny note - the first time through, most of the answers I was confident about were Spanish.
conceptually, BUTT OUT is a great theme. love it.
but this grid? this solve? no. sloggy. unpleasant. zero reward. the fill was just...so bad.
i figured out the theme. i didn't have any technical issues solving on the website. i finished it without googling anything. i knew a lot of the PPP. but it still was awful.
in the end i had to get out the scrap paper to look at the missing letters because the software said i had an error somewhere. turns out my problems were up top in the very first row. given the bad fill in this one i really didn't linger too long on the NYT using "oil" as a verb to muddy the waters. but when i realized i needed a letter up there i thought, okay, at least it's not just oils. must be...sOILS. i also didn't know the gymnast and i don't know the phrase "silver tongued" so that was no help. i had ArI, a fine name *and* crossword darling, and my crisscross pattern was of course, a bRAID, which is also perfectly apt. but that left my synonym for butt as "SUMB." wtf is that, i wondered.
well, it turns out both "muddying the waters" and "roil" have two definitions, and i mismatched them to where ROIL didn't make sense to me. [confusing something != irritating someone.] but they just meant literally, and TIL roil also means "make (a liquid) turbid or muddy by disturbing the sediment." great! just great.
so if it is roil then...RUMB? oh must be RUMP...praid? plaid...
i fixed my mistakes, is what i'm saying. but i wasn't happy about it. but that wasn't even what made this solve miserable. there was so much that was just...dry...bland...couldn't care less, and it took twice as long as usual. bleck.
-stephanie.
Great description of nubology!
Yes!
Hated it
Thanks!
i put older instead of order. couldn’t find it and had to look it up. i was frustrated. i did not know TOTORO obvs. it annoyed me a lot. in fact, i’m still annoyed :/
Intrigued after watching this week's talk by MWedesday's Malaika, I went and solved today's Vulture crossword, which she created. Surprisingly, I found it very similar to a NYT puzzle on a day when the NYT skews heavy on the PPP.
Most notable clue: Actress who stars in "The Bear," familiarly (three letters).
Didn’t know any of the movie answers so got stuck on the right side despite knowing I was looking for “seat”. Just really unpleasant.
I did like how TRUMP appears among the list of synonyms for asses.
Beezer
I was thinking that the letters butt out.
Noone + Spelling Bee = me. Every. Time.
I’m keep bringing up that for online users there is no acceptable convention for entering a rebus. I absolutely hate these gimmicky puzzles that frustrate me because I can’t put in the correct letters the to get the win (happy music). STOP THIS!
I prefer to do the puzzle on pa per and for 50 years until this year, I almost always did. Long story why the change. This one I did the app which I hate. So you might think I agreed with the consensus here.
NOPE (Great film agree not really ahorror movie which I don’t like).
For whatever reason enjoyed tracking down the extra letters. The fact I couldn’t write them down didn’t bother me at all.
I mean the first theme across was the easiest. On the other hand, BRASs was a tough one ( didn’t realize the symmetrical locations of the themers till later) but a great aha moment.
Thought it was a tough puzzle but a good puzzle
Apparently knowing how to spell Peloton for the company and peloton for the bike racing tactic helped a lot. To be fair, the company was a huge hit during lockdown and much in the news, but of course it has crashed since and faded so the spelling problem. Totoro I vaguely remembered reading about it, never saw it.
Agree with Nancy.
Also hated it. By the time I caught on, I was too annoyed to care. Not pleasant for app folks.
Waited all day to finally get home to relax with puzzles, and found this? New low. Never again, please.
Can anyone explain 26D; mother-of-pearls?
@dashriprock, i had to look up “steatopygus” and was not disappointed in what i found. ha!
Trying to figure out how “properly” to enter the rebus took me all day. Nothing I did would satisfy the software, and Ingot the “letters outside the grid” trick very early because I have been solving for over 60 years and have seen the trick before. But why none of my rebus ideas would work mystified me.
At 6 PM here in NorCal, I stopped at Barnes and Noble on my way back from a medical adventure in Napa (an hour away from my home) and bought a paper paper! By then I had lost my sense of humor entirely.
I was going to get my happy music darn it!!!! So I went to one of my favorite watering holes for alcohol therapy while I copied all my answers onto the paper copy and left the extra letters outside the margins.
Well, color me careless! I had spent so much time in Rebusland trading letters, putting in slashes or commas or dashes and quickly putting in only the letters that were not “imaginary” in the electronic version that I failed to see my single typo. The O In T-TOP was an A in my grid on the app. Back to the electronic drawing board.
A couple G&Ts later, after correcting my typo, and carefully making sure to keep the “beyond the pale” letters out of the grid boxes - hallelujah! Happy 🎶!! Only it was way too much work for me to be happy. Best thing about the solve is that I did not give up and break my streak!
The concept was fine, and many of us will have seen it before. So nothing at all about the construction or the fill bothered me. In fact it was a typical Thursday ruse with some welcome tougher spots. I direct none of my displeasure at Dan Caprea. Nada.
But, NYT, get a grip! Educate yourselves more on how technology helps or as today hinders a solving experience. Please! This type puzzle need not be as unpleasant a solve as experienced by so many of us today.
Rex, if you're looking for a Mia Goth movie she was delightful as Harriet in the 2020 Emma
@Anonymous: I predict that’ll happen here tomorrow.
M&A Psychic Dept.
H8TED it.
Agreed on all counts. Bad puzzle and got stuck on in ink.
No comment by OFL about ANO and URANUS?? The NYT XW finally uses ANO correctly without any acknowledgement.
Hear! Hear!
Talk about thinking outside the, uh, yeah let's not go there. My first two outside letters were U and M, top center, so I figured it had to be "BUM." Wrong again, Space dude.
AS(S) I solved further, the four-letter pattern became apparent, and (I agree) it turned into something of a slog. But a snickering one, which rescued it from boredom. Birdie.
Wordle bogey...but with both a V and an X, surely a par five.
This puzzle told me something I already know. T-RUMP is an @ss
@Burma Shave will be taking a sabbatical until at least mid-July, so for the first time in 10 and a half years, there will be no daily verse. Still no word on the book rights.
RUMP RESULT
UTA TOOKADIGAT me
to TOAST me AS she TENDS.
It’s so PLAIN could U NOTSEE
If it’s BUTTOUT or UPEND?
--- ALAIN BAUM
From Wednesday:
EPIC REALM, INTREPID MARCH
UTHER had no ENMITIES
WITH those who LONGTO RUNE it,
FIGHTING all TO KEEP THE PEACE,
lest THE IRISH LICK his UNIT.
--- DR. HECTOR MOE
The puzzle was a pain in the arse to do while doing it, but since I do it IN PEN as Gof intended, when I completed the puzzle and saw it as a finished product, I was very impressed! The fact that all the prat related letters were symmetrical, plus all the theme answers were real words without those letters, takes it up two notches for me!!! I agree with Nancy!!!
Did NOTSEE exactly what the trick was but the ROILS TAILS and BRASS meant it was double up or BUTTOUT when I got down to the middle. Smooth sailing thereafter.
Definitely a dead tree puzzle
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