Shifty little sucker? / SAT 12-21-24 / Austrian composer Mahler / X follower, perhaps / Black-and-white divers / Pen for a hit / Bed hogs, at times / Woodpecker fare / Jhené ___, Grammy-nominated R&B singer / Character who says "I am short, fat and proud of that" / Last ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom, familiarly / Star-forming region nearest to Earth / Noisy Asian bird / Short palindrome in the middle of a famous longer one

Saturday, December 21, 2024

Constructor: Barbara Lin and Lewis Rothlein

Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging (Challenging for me, but I made some ridiculous, sleepy decisions)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: SALT Treaty (23D: SALT, but not PEPPER = NUCLEAR PACT) —

The Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) were two rounds of bilateral conferences and corresponding international treaties involving the United States and the Soviet Union. The Cold War superpowers dealt with arms control in two rounds of talks and agreements: SALT I and SALT II.

Negotiations commenced in Helsinki, in November 1969. SALT I led to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and an interim agreement between the two countries.

Although SALT II resulted in an agreement in 1979 in Vienna, the US Senate chose not to ratify the treaty in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which took place later that year. The Supreme Soviet did not ratify it either. The agreement expired on December 31, 1985, and was not renewed, although both sides continued to respect it.

The talks led to the STARTs, or Strategic Arms Reduction Treaties, which consisted of START I, a 1991 completed agreement between the United States and the Soviet Union, and START II, a 1993 agreement between the United States and Russia which never entered into effect, both of which proposed limits on multiple-warhead capacities and other restrictions on each side's number of nuclear weapons. A successor to START I, New START, was proposed and was eventually ratified in February 2011. (wikipedia)

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I'm out of practice. The puzzles have run so easy of late that I don't have much recent experience of struggling with a hard one, and today's, yeesh, just couldn't get a grip. From start to (especially) finish. In retrospect, I see all kinds of ways that I *should" have been able to navigate through the grid more easily. If, for instance, I'd looked at all the long Across clues in the NW instead of resolutely focusing on the short Downs, I'd've seen 17A: The "King of Mambo" (TITO PUENTE), which would've been a gimme for me. I probably could've gotten OPERA HOUSE too if I'd just looked at the damn clue, sigh (15A: Madrid's Teatro Real, for one). No idea why the only long Across I even looked at up there (before abandoning it) was 1A: Shifty little sucker? Weird. I solve just after waking, around 4am, and I think my brain just wasn't warm enough for this one. You can see how long it took me to get traction, here:


And as you can see, there are errors. CAV for NET (the NETs were in the finals? Twice?), ANNA for ALMA (???). You can see I just don't know the Names in this puzzle. My response to the clue about The Hate U Give was "I thought that was written by a woman" (40A: "The Hate U Give" author Thomas). LOL, pfft. Yes, dummy, it was. "Thomas" is the last name. The AIKO singer, absolutely no clue (26D: Jhené ___, Grammy-nominated R&B singer). A LOGAN that's not an airport? No clue. But I did know TITO PUENTE and Rooney MARA and REBA, of course, so not all names were poison. Still, those names I didn't know were real barriers. The hardest part for me was the end, the SE, where I had BON- and ITC- and a very tentative DEEP-SEATED (I always wonder if it's actually DEEP-SEEDED), and then .... nothing. Couldn't think of much of anything starting BON-. Wanted IT COULDN'T HURT, but that wouldn't fit, and somehow my brain never entertained the shorter CAN'T. Doesn't sound natural in my mouth, though it makes perfect sense. So Acrosses were a no-go. And coming at that section from above ... nope, couldn't do that either. I thought the vineyard eponym was gonna be a wine producer, I couldn't fathom what [Form letters?] was, I was expecting something much less straightforward at 48D: Blue laws, e.g., so I was very stuck. Even the "famous" palindrome threw me, as I thought "Madam, I'm Adam" might be part of a longer biblical palindrome (???) and so wrote in EVE instead of ERE (from "Able was I ERE I saw Elba"). I still don't really get how ETD is a "Track stat."  Oh, train track. Yikes. Anyway, I had to run the alphabet for the first letter of [Woodpecker fare] (three letters ending "P") ... and when I got to "S" I saw SAP, and that made me see BONSAI TREE (51A: It's a little shady), and that was all I needed. Grueling for me. 


The grid looks fine. The only time I was actually enjoying myself was somewhere in the middle, when I got RUN INTERFERENCE and LOWER FORTY-EIGHT (a lovely center cross) (34A: Alabama is in it, but Alaska is not). The corners are very solid, and I especially like BLOW A GASKET. Didn't love the cutesy clue on BENDY STRAW, as I don't think "shifty" is a word anyone would ever apply to a straw, and I don't think of straws as "little," either (compared to what?). Still, BENDY STRAW is a fine answer. There's really no longer answer that feels forced or awkward, or even particularly dull or lifeless, and that's a pretty good accomplishment.


Help!:
  • 1D: X follower, perhaps (BOT) — of all the things "X" can be, one of those things is a decaying social media site where, famously, many users are actually BOTs. This clue took me a while to understand, even after I got it, so if you didn't get it right away, you're in good company. Well, you're in my company, at any rate.
  • 19A: No longer waffle (OPT) — even something as simple as this was actually tough in its ambiguity. I ended up in an unexpected kealoa* situation—ACT worked just as well. Better, I thought. "ACT now!" "It's time to ACT!" Replace either of those with OPT and you sound absurd. 
  • 28A: Lines in bars (URLS) — after the "X" ambiguity and the OPT/ACT ambiguity, we get even more ambiguity here. What kind of "bars?" What kind of "lines?" Who can say. I had UPCS in here for a bit.
  • 23A: À la king? (NOBLY) — more ambiguity. I was trying to decide between REGAL and ROYAL. The phrase "À la king" is used adjectivally on menus ... it's technically a prepositional phrase. Did not see adverb coming. Also didn't see generic "noble" coming with specific "king" in clue. 
  • 38A: Stake (FUND) — grimace-y face, I am making one. Is this a noun or verb situation? I guess this is def. 3c of "Stake" ("an interest or share in an undertaking or enterprise"), but I'm not certain who these two words swap out for one another.
  • 47A: "And the ___ raths outgrabe" ("Jabberwocky" line) (MOME) — words can't express how much I resent having to know the non-words from this damn poem. After "slithy TOVES," I got nothing. There's gotta be a way to get MOME out of this grid.
  • 58A: What some people display after getting stuck? (TATS) — an awkward, ungainly clue, the awkwardness and ungainliness undermining its intended humor. I had T-TS here and ... yeah ... I thought exactly what you're thinking ... I was like "wow, I guess that's one way to get help." 
  • 5D: Like a noisy toy (YAPPY) — only just now realizing the "toy" is a type of dog and not an actual child's plaything. Brutal clue (I think I wanted AROAR at one point (???)).
  • 10D: Bed hogs, at times (WEEDS) — more brutality. Very Saturday, this one.
  • 27D: Japanese food that's a good source of what it spells backward (NORI) — one of my few successes today. Got this with no crosses, and got it early on, so it really helped.
  • 35A: Pen for a hit (E-CIG) — I couldn't make any grammatical sense of this clue. So it's a vape "pen" that you take a "hit" from? The world of vaping is terra incognita to me. I smoked actual cigarettes for two years in my youth and then stopped and that is not entirely but pretty much my entire experience of smoking.
That's it for the puzzle. More Holiday Pet Pics now!

Here's Mickey, who agrees that the Chiefs are looking pretty good again this year, but would rather you put the ornament on the tree ... please. 
[Thanks, Jack]

Little Kiddle says "there's nothing 'Holiday' about this picture, you're not really going to sen- ... oh, you are? Huh, OK." You'r'e very pretty, LK. Maybe next year you'll get a little red bow or something. 
[Thanks, Lesley]

Penny here could kinda pass for a flying reindeer, so ... sure, it's a 'Holiday' pic, whatever
[Thanks, Anne]

Snowflake has been into the catnip and is having a holiday visionary experience. "The angels are all around us, man ... can't you see them ... glowing in their multitudes ..." Sure, Snowflake. We all see them. You just get some rest.
[Thanks, Amy]

Foxglove would prefer not to

Foxglove's canine sister Maggie, however, embraces the season wholeheartedly. Here she is engaging in her favorite winter sport: snoozing on a blanket (RIP, sweet burrito) 
[Thanks, Anthony]

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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27 comments:

Son Volt 6:21 AM  

Fantastic puzzle Lewis! Just tough enough for a proper Saturday challenge but comfortable to work through. I agree with the big guy - the crossing center spanners were wonderful - and my foothold into the entire grid. From there each of the giant corners had one gimme - for me OPERA HOUSE, COLLEGE GRAD and ORION NEBULA were all I needed.

WADE In Your Water

Not sure TITO PUENTE works or not - his music was prominent in The Mambo Kings but Prez Prado is the king. Easily inferable so that helped. The NORI clue is outstanding and should make Lewis’ favorite list. Limited glue in this grid - loved to see POOH, MOME and PBS. Don’t really know ALMA as a composer but have read about her various hijinks.

The SILOs

Highly enjoyable Saturday morning solve. Back to back with yesterday may be the best of the year. Lester Ruff’s Stumper gives us another nice challenge today with a totally wacky grid architecture. Highly recommended.

Silent Night All Day Long

Conrad 6:42 AM  


Challenging for me. Talk about your "ridiculous, sleepy decisions"

My 1D "X follower" was rho, my 2D "-gram lead-in" was ana, my 3D losing athlete was a mav, my 4D "run off at the mouth" was Delta and I had @Son Volt perez prado for the17A mambo king ( it fit).

Then I ran into the 18A Mahler clue and tried to figure out how to fit "Gustav" into four squares. A Saturday rebus? It took some time to remember Tom Lehrer song.

The lower half gave much less resistance and was close to a normal Saturday difficulty. I had most of the same overwrites as @Rex.

Anonymous 6:43 AM  

On the Medium side of Easy-Medium. Enjoyed BENDY STRAW, BLOW A GASKET, and IT CAN'T HURT.

Like Rex, I thought 23D was either REGAL or ROYAL and 5D was one of those crosswordese-y "A" words. I got that "toy" = dog but YAPPY took a looong time to see.

I got APA and figured that would be something like American Psychological Association given the clue, and I thought the "APA style guide" APA was a different org. but they're one and the same.

Some of the misdirections didn't quite work for me. "Stuck" = pierced with a needle? I kind of ee how "shifty" can describe BENDY STRAWs specifically, but the STRAW isn't really the one doing the sucking. I think the majority of STRAW clues with a "sucking" misdirection don't refer to the straw itself as the "sucker".

Can anyone explain what that MARTHA clue is even about? I wanted MERLOT from the M, then I got WADED.

Hal9000 6:44 AM  

I found this an easier Saturday and was surprised to see Rex label it challenging - but that’s a testament to how much puzzles either land or don’t land in one’s wheelhouse. This one landed: Jhené Aiko, Tito Puente, Rooney Mara, Reba - all comfortable, as are most of the words to Jabberwocky and - like I said, it fell in my wheelhouse.

I found it well constructed too, with clever-but-fair misdirections and no outright clunkers. I agree that Perez Prado was the mambo king - Tito Puente was “El Rey del Timbál” - but that’s not too egregious. All told, a pleasant solve.

SouthsideJohnny 6:54 AM  

Nice grid-spanning cross with RUN INTERFERENCE and LOWER FORTYEIGHT.

I’m actually a little surprised that the NYT doesn’t have more Jabberwocky quotes - that would seem like a natural fit since they are so gibberish-friendly.

A little something for everyone in this grid, from Opera to the Mamba, along with authors, musicians and even Julia Child and BENDY STRAWs. Very much Saturday-level difficulty. This one should tide over the tired, poor, huddled masses until tomorrow.

Anonymous 6:58 AM  

Martha’s Vineyard, an island in Massachusetts

Lobster11 7:02 AM  

I think ETD is a "track stat" in the sense of "estimated time of delivery" when tracking the shipping of a package online.

Anonymous 7:14 AM  

Martha's vineyard, an island off Cape Cod

Anonymous 7:46 AM  

Toughest puzzle in a while, but mostly fair. Good work, Lewis.

Bob Mills 7:52 AM  

DNF because of left side. LOWERFORTYEIGHT as a geographic reference is misleading, because Hawaii is farther south than all of them. Either "Lower forty-nine" (geographically) or "First forty-eight" (historically) would be accurate. I wanted "continental---" but USA didn't fit.

Anonymous 8:03 AM  

Lines in bars — the bars here are address bars in browsers, which contain URLs. Calling a URL a “line” might be a little flimsy but not overly so.

Anonymous 8:05 AM  

I also found this to be challenging but fair. Great puzzle!

Anonymous 8:06 AM  

Found this one to be medium - from a difficulty scale 10 or 15 years ago. More than twice as long to complete as Friday's Had as much trouble with this as with the one Lewis had in the LAT a few weeks ago.

There were things unknown to me, answers that I couldn't figure out as clued, and my mistakes. For 51A, had B_N___TREE and decided it was Banyan. Too much "Aja."

Thanks for the workout, Barbara Lin and Lewis Rothlein.

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

One thing I never expect or want to see in NYT puzzles is gibberish.

kitshef 8:08 AM  

Very easy Saturday, although some of that may have resulted from specific knowledge e.g. TITO PUENTE, Mount LOGAN.

Only three erasures today, following yesterday's zero. That is very, very atypical for a Fri-Sat. Although after putting in OPERA HOUSE I did briefly consider 'bArkY' where YAPPY goes. I'm happy I did not put that in, and even happier that it was not the right answer.

Burghman 8:13 AM  

DEEPSEAbED (as in the ocean floor) got me RUb, which when taken as “That’s the rub” kinda worked for a bad place to be stuck (or at least enough to convince me that maybeeeeee…). Tough puzzle for sure but a fun fight.

Lewis 8:14 AM  

Barbara and I took our time with this one. It turns out we have that in common, especially with the cluing. We let the cluing marinate. Barbara is remarkably sharp, astute, and witty. Our goal was to create a Saturday-worthy puzzle, that is, one that in a pleasurable way, activates the minds of experienced solvers.

Grateful for all the feedback, which helps me hone my craft. And grateful to this commenting community (and OFL) – a treasured hangout. Thank you all!

Anonymous 8:19 AM  

Had BOX in 1D and XITOPUENTE seemed just as likely as any other random trivial name I have never heard of. I've also never heard of XBOT, whatever that is. I finished filling in the puzzle and then spent forever searching for my error before giving up and revealing. ALMA? AIKO? ANGIE? TITO? MOME? MARA? UGH! All make for a very painful and not fun slog.

Anonymous 8:21 AM  

Re eliminating MOME: change to MOVE, crossed with REVOTE. Voila!

Rug Crazy 8:38 AM  

ETD is not a stat....had BRO fior BRR...oops

Steve 8:39 AM  

dnf b/c I had a CtO crossing an ORtONCLOUD

Andy Freude 8:40 AM  

Truly a worthy Saturday puzzle, Lewis. Congrats to you and to Barbara. Like OFL, I was stumped with that 1A clue, switched to the short downs with little luck, and not until the end of my solve did I finally work my way back up to the NW, only to find the two longs that were totally in my wheelhouse: opera and mambo! A real treat, crunchy and satisfying!

Kali 8:42 AM  

A QR code typically has a line through the middle with the URL. Horrible clue.

Ride the Reading 8:55 AM  

Anonymous at 8:06a was from me. Forgot to change that.

RooMonster 9:12 AM  

Hey All !
Tough puz that I managed sussing everything out and completing. Timer says 42:00, which is neat that it's exact with no seconds, and amazing, as I was stuck pretty much in every section. "Finished" with BOx/xITOPUENTE. Got the Almost There! message, so I decided to look up Mr. PUENTE to see he is a TITO, not a xITO. No idea what XBOT is, but XBOX is a misdirection that felt (for lack of a better description) cheesy. Sorry, @Lewis! But you could've clued BOT a million ways without the ambiguitiness. (Is that a word?) Maybe - It responds automatically - or some such.

I'm not one to talk, however, as @Lewis has many puzs in many different venues, whereas I have none. I'm a little jealous! (OK, a lot jealous!) But that X clue still irks. 😁

Otherwise than my one nit, puz was good. I liked all the other misdirection/clever clues in here. BENDY STRAW got a smile, as it's neat to see the words, and fun to think of, as haven't seen one in a while. COLLEGE GRAD also a fun clue TATS and others I'm sure also.

So a good SatPuz that got the ole brain working. Gotta keep the cells that are left active!

Congrats @Lewis on yet another puz published. Did I mention some jealousy? 😂

Happy Saturday!

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anthony In TX 9:31 AM  

Thank you for including our Foxglove and Maggie, whom we miss very much!
Puzzle was a fun one this morning, right up until I hit a hard stop in the SE corner. I had WRITS instead of WRITE for a long time, so DEEP SEATED wasn't coming to me and my brain simply would not make sense of BONSAI TREE. Some really good cluing in there, especially in the NW corner. Really enjoyed this one and squeaked in under my average Saturday time by 3 seconds!

Anthony In TX 9:31 AM  

Thank you for including our Foxglove and Maggie, whom we miss very much!
Puzzle was a fun one this morning, right up until I hit a hard stop in the SE corner. I had WRITS instead of WRITE for a long time, so DEEP SEATED wasn't coming to me and my brain simply would not make sense of BONSAI TREE. Some really good cluing in there, especially in the NW corner. Really enjoyed this one and squeaked in under my average Saturday time by 3 seconds!

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