Caesar's first stabber / THU 12-26-24 / Peak picker-uppers / Dutch banking giant / Hawaiian dish with cubed fish / Astronauts' outpost, for short / Forgo a ring, maybe / Slangy term for an obsession with branded fashion items / Early 20th-century composer who introduced the typewriter as a percussion instrument / Unapproved, pharmaceutically / Bass organs

Thursday, December 26, 2024

Constructor: Ella Dershowitz

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: SKI LIFTS (55A: Peak picker-uppers, as depicted three times in this puzzle's grid) — the letters "SKI" literally "lift" (i.e. go up) three times, elevating three different Across answers by two rows before they continue on across:

Theme answers:
  • "THIS KISS" (28A: Faith Hill hit with the lyric "It's perpetual bliss")
  • PENCIL SKIRT (29A: Slim-fitting bottom)
  • "CASH IS KING" (60A: "Money talks")
Word of the Day: CASCA (45D: Caesar's first stabber) —
 
[Murder of Caesar, Karl Theodor von Piloty (1865)]
Publius Servilius Casca Longus (died c. 42 BC) was one of the assassins of Julius Caesar and plebeian tribune in 43 BC. He and several other senators conspired to kill him, a plan which they carried out on 15 March 44 BC. Afterward, Casca fought with the liberators during the Liberators' civil war. He is believed to have died at the Battle of Phillipi either by suicide or at the hands of Octavian's forces. // Despite his being initially a childhood friend of Caesar, Casca and his brother Titedius joined in the assassination. Casca struck the first blow, attacking Caesar from behind and hitting his bare shoulders, after Tillius Cimber had distracted the dictator by grabbing his toga. Caesar replied "Casca, you villain, what are you doing?" and tussled with him for several seconds. Casca simultaneously shouted to his brother in Greek, "Brother, help me!" The other assassins then joined in. // In December 44 BC, Casca assumed office as plebeian tribune. No unrest was associated with his taking office and he allied himself with Cicero and Brutus' mother Servilia. However, after Octavian marched on Rome during the War of Mutina, Casca fled the city and joined Marcus Junius Brutus and Gaius Cassius Longinus, the leaders of the assassins, in the Liberators' civil war against the Second Triumvirate of Antony, Lepidus, and Octavian. When he fled the city, his colleague, Publius Titius, had Casca's tribunate abrogated. He seems to have died, probably by suicide, in the aftermath of their defeat at the Battle of Philippi, in October 42 BC. There is no reference to him in any of the sources after this date. (wikipedia)
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Such a simple concept, I'm surprised it's never been done before (not in the NYTXW, anyway). The very term SKI LIFT(S) seems to be crying out to be a Thursday revealer. And maybe it was, but it just wasn't crying hard enough. Buried under too much snow? Anyway, its cries were heard, and so we get this puzzle, which, thematically, is quite nice. The simplicity is elegant instead of insipid or remedial. I actually had quite a bit of trouble picking up the gimmick (I was painfully aware that I could just jump down to the revealer, and that would likely speed the process of my "getting it" along, but some days (most?) I'm stubborn). What made the gimmick hard for me to see was the fact that my first theme answer was "THIS KISS," a song title I knew, but because the (apparent) answer was "THIS," I assumed I was dealing with a "missing 'kiss'" puzzle. Maybe the letters "KISS" were hidden somewhere, or there was an "X" (shorthand for "kiss") that I was supposed to find, or make ... maybe buried in a black squares? I don't know. All I knew was I was on the hunt for kisses. Then I got to PUTTIES (35A: Fills in the gaps of, in a way), which ... obviously not a theme answer. Obvious now. Not obvious to me then. The clue on that was so odd  that I thought the full answer was PUTTIES [OVER], and so now, in addition to a missing "kiss," I had a missing "over" to find. It wasn't until PENCILS that I could see the gimmick, because you could feel the break—that is, the answer wanted to be PENCIL SKIRT, but instead of standalone PENCIL (the way I had standalone "THIS" with the first themer), I had that extra "S"—PENCILS. So then I just followed the "S" to the obvious next letter ("K") and thought, "Oh, I just write in IRT ... here" (and that, in fact, was right). So there was some fumbling around before I grasped it all, but otherwise the puzzle was very doable, clued more like a Wednesday than a Thursday. The tricky gimmick offset the easy fill and so you end up with a pretty average Thursday difficulty—though above-average Thursday quality, I think.


I appreciated the lightness of the theme, i.e. the fact that there were just three theme answers. Themes that involve answers hopping up or otherwise jumping their lanes can put a Lot of pressure on the grid and make it hard to fill cleanly, so it's nice to see a constructor know not to push it—to trust the strength and charm of the theme and let the grid breathe. Makes for a smoother solving experience. Not that it was smooth all over. I'm used to seeing pretty polished work from this constructor, and this one felt more crosswordesey than usual (CASCA TEC ERMA SERTA etc.) (giving ING and IRT a pass because they're part of the theme). Also, DODGSON is not exactly a winning name (huge shrug from me) (40D: Lewis Carroll's real last name, hence Lewis's last name in "Jurassic Park") and LOGOMANIA ... :( ... if you say so (30D: Slangy term for an obsession with branded fashion items). Admittedly, fashion terminology is not my strong suit, but that feels made up. Do people really use it? LOGOMANIA sounds like a passion for words or reason, not a passion for the little polo-playing guy or the "LV" on the Louis-Vuitton luggage. Not excited by that answer. Very excited, however, by full-named ERIK SATIE (among my ten, maybe five, favorite composers) (14D: Early 20th-century composer who introduced the typewriter as a percussion instrument). 


You see his name in parts a lot in crosswords, so it was fun to see the parts all together. Also enjoyed AIM TO PLEASE and BEATNIKS and RUBIK'S CUBES, though an ASTUTE editor (or editor's assistant) would've vetoed the "cubed" part of the POKE BOWL clue (13A: Hawaiian dish with cubed fish) on the grounds of duplicate "cubes." That's too conspicuous a word to (needlessly) double like that. On the whole, I thought this was pretty GREAT. A simple theme concept that was sufficiently tough to uncover, and a smooth grid full of varied answers (light on names—DODGSON notwithstanding—heavy on polish).


Notes:
  • 19A: Like the last name of swimming legend Diana Nyad (APT) — naiads = "nymphs who lived in and presided over brooks, springs, and fountains" (American Heritage), i.e. water nymphs. Swimmers swim in (surprise!) water. So: APT.
  • 33A: Forgo a ring, maybe (KNOCK) — gah! Anyone else reflexively write in ELOPE!? Any five-letter answer with a punny-looking clue, and my first instinct is always ELOPE. Not sure why ELOPE in particular tends to attract the punny clues (e.g. [Take the honey and run?]), but it does, and this clue had ELOPE written all over it. Until it didn't. "A ring" here is the doorbell.
  • 50A: Dutch banking giant (ING) — back when I thought 43D: Hamper, e.g. (BIN) was BOX, I thought this [Dutch banking giant] was OXO ... because I misread "banking" as "baking" ... and then thought maybe the clue was talking about the kitchenware brand, OXO. There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself.
  • 63A: CBS drama with five spinoffs (NCIS) — first thought: "... all of them?" How many CSIs were there? How many FBIs are there? Chicago [blank]s? I mean, if the franchise formula works, why stop? But it's still a bit ridiculous.
  • 48D: Bass organs (GILLS) — Oh, that kind of bass. And that kind of organ. Double-ambiguous! Clue really looks like it wants a musical instrument for an answer.
  • 11D: Chess : check :: go : ___ (ATARI) — I assume I'm like most people (in this one way) in that I had to piece this together from crosses and then infer it from the idea that I know that "go" is a Japanese game, and ATARI is a video game company with a Japanese name. The company was named after this "go" term, it turns out: "Before Atari's incorporation, Bushnell considered various terms from the game Go, eventually choosing atari, referencing a position in the game when a group of stones is imminently in danger of being taken by one's opponent. Atari was incorporated in the state of California on June 27, 1972" (wikipedia).
  • 18A: Astronauts' outpost, for short (ISS) — International Space Station.
  • 39A: Samira Wiley's role on "The Handmaid's Tale" (MOIRA) — more TV I haven't watched. I read that novel in the '80s and loved it and have never had any desire to see it revisited. I did see the 1990 film adaptation when it came out, though. I remember liking it, though apparently most people didn't. The screenplay was written by Harold Pinter!? Kinda want to revisit it now ...
  • 61A: Unapproved, pharmaceutically (OFF-LABEL) — could not get beyond "OFF-BRAND." Until crosses forced me.
More Holiday Pet Pics now.

A few memorial photos to open today's set. First up, Maxine, playing her favorite game, "Where's Maxine?" "Screw Waldo, Maxine is best hider! Master of disguise. I am plush toy! They never find me now..." RIP, Maxine.

[Thanks, Cyndie]

Next up are two animals from the family of frequent blog commenter Mimi ("@A"). First, there's Eudora Welty aka "boo-boo," in typical "not a place for cats" position. Cats—turning four square inches of real estate into a throne since forever:

And then there's Kaya, who wants to open presents now, can we? (RIP to both these babies)
[Thanks, Mimi]

The following animals are still with us, as far as I know. I really feel like I've featured Milo and Grey here before, but I can't find any evidence, and anyway, look at them. I could feature them every day and who would complain?
[Thanks, Christopher]

Here's Amelia, next to that damned crossword ornament that we apparently all own. Amelia is part Dalmatian part Ewok all sweetness.
[Thanks, James and Megan]

And lastly, in honor of the official start of Chanukah (yesterday), we get a triptych of Bodie. The many Chanukah moods of Bodie. One minute he's belting out "Chanukah, Oh Chanukah"!...

... the next, he's a professional model. Do you need dignified, or relaxed and casual? Bodie can give you any look you require. 

[Thanks, Jill and Ronnie]

See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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70 comments:

Bob Mills 6:28 AM  

Finished it with two cheats, to get Satie's first name and Lewis Carroll's real last name. The theme was beyond me, even though I did notice the upside-down SKIs..I'm gong to read Rex Parker's explanation again after breakfast. I should never do a Thursday puzzle before drinking my morning coffee.

SouthsideJohnny 6:40 AM  

There was enough easy stuff that I could wander around the grid keeping an eye out for a theme and ended up playing it as a themeless. Figured Rex would explain, which he did - kind of a snoozer of a theme, as was the entire puzzle.

I didn’t bother to look up THRUM - I’m sure it’s a real word, never heard of it though. More troubling was the clue for STEP. How does that pertain to ANY family member ? Hopefully there is some crazy misdirect there - what am I missing ?

If the clue for 11D (ATARI) isn’t the Most Useless Clue of the Year, it is definitely in the top 3.

Anonymous 6:43 AM  

"Dodgson? We got Dodgeson here!!"

Rich Glauber 6:57 AM  

The perfect puzzle is one where figuring out the theme allows me to go back and figure out a stubborn section. I wasn't familiar with THISKISS but once SKILIIFTS fell, aha there it is. It makes for an extra satisfying solve. Great puzzle, Ms Dershowitz.

kitshef 7:19 AM  

It's a very well done theme, and a very well done puzzle, and a great pleasure to solve.

I see advertisements for POKE BOWLs all the time and have no clue what is being advertised. At least now I know it's some kind of fish.

Rick Sacra 7:29 AM  

Great Puzzle! 19 minutes for me... had to get the revealer to grok the theme. Just couldn't parse the up lifting answers.... had lots of trouble over in the ??? STAKE vs SpiKE, THRUM for PURR... Tried just "kisS" where THIS goes.... only completed that section once I got the revealer. I agree it's great to see ERIKSATIE spelled out in the grid. I must confess I didn't realize he was so avante garde as to incorporate typewriters! I'll have to check that out.... Enjoyed it a lot. Perfect Thursday. : ) 19 minutes for me, so just north of average.

Anonymous 7:39 AM  

Stepbrother, stepmom, stepdad…

Anonymous 7:40 AM  

Came here to get an explanation of the theme after I finished the puzzle. Now I’m . Now THIS, PENCILS, and CASHIS are no longer completely inscrutable. But is it a trait of a decent theme that when you’ve solved the puzzle you need Rex to explain it? I feel like Ms. Dershowitz has done this before. I prefer themes that you need to figure out to actually solve the puzzle, I guess.

Anonymous 7:42 AM  

Loved the theme and its execution, and to @Rich Glauber’s point (6:57), I had to leave the square at the IRT/ATARI cross blank until I hit the revealer and understood the theme. I had been wondering how the plural answer PENCILS fit the singular clue “slim-fitting bottom.” Then I saw the SKI LIFT and the SKIRT and the R was revealed.

Lewis 7:46 AM  

It took great craft just to build this grid:
• It’s a tight theme. After today’s theme answers that include IKS, if you don’t want to repeat names or words ending in IKS, there’s SHIKSA, and … I’m going blank. Help?
• Having three theme answers that take double turns greatly constricts the answer possibilities, and filling this in as cleanly as Ella did displays her virtuosity.
• As does creating a grid design that accommodates this twisty-turny theme.

It also took great craft, as in cunning, to come across the term SKI LIFT, and envisage a theme that has SKI not only going upward, but taking the solver to a higher level to complete the theme answer. Not to mention the cunning involved in creating a theme never used before in ANY of the major crossword venues.

I did like the theme echo in THE BAR, which reminded me of T-BAR, clued so often in Crosslandia as [Ski lift].

Ella, your puzzles are imaginative, playful, and, yes, crafty. All of them. Brava on today’s, and thank you for a most splendid outing!

Anonymous 7:47 AM  

would have called this one easy. 2 seconds off a personal best.

JJK 7:50 AM  

Pretty easy, I thought. I got the theme with PENCILSKIRT, since just PENCILS didn’t seem quite right (“shouldn’t it be PENCILSKIRT?”) and so I looked for the rest of SKIRT, found it, and got the revealer, which I thought was clued oddly. ‘Peak lifter-uppers’, what is that? Why not say ‘Peak transport’ or something like that?

No idea on DODGSON, but it was inferable. Now I know that.

Anonymous 7:59 AM  

Stepmother
Stepfather
Stepsister
Stepbrother
Etc.

Anonymous 8:10 AM  

PEN crossing PENCILS was so egregious, it ruined the entire puzzle for me.

dash riprock 8:13 AM  


Rex Parker: Please delete my duplicate post at the other end of this link.


Several of the clue/answer pairs, bordering on Friday material, took some thought. But, the composer aside, nothing particularly resonated. Still, no dross either. EWS? Nah, for Rip, dreck-free. And that's a statement. So then, how does it land. Into ambivalence, I suppose. Shrug.

The closing - Rip was nudged to misspell the one area of interest by its misguessed neighbor, ABASh, 4d: a 'c' would precede an 'h,' not a 'k,' so ERIc SATIE, 14d, even though I was sure that was wrong. [Apparently Satie was born Eric, later taking Erik, though Riprock did not know that. (*Johnny Carson voice*)]. STAch, 22a, of course made no sense, so it took 31 sec to suss the double-error, incl. a second look at the ATARI x IRT cross (correct), and then it was over.

The post-game stare and 'what the hell is going on here' at 55a [..as depicted three times in this puzzle's grid] seemed to take as long as the game itself. Riprock has ridden plenty of T-bars, chairlifts, gondolas, but the low-res pixelated imagery, if any, wasn't connecting. The upended 'SKI' trio in 10d, 14d, and 32d, is that it ? If so, super weak, and diminishing of the game overall. If not, I don'git'it.

[UPDATE: Now at post, have just skimmed The Rex opening and see that I missed the full, staggered answers which straddle each of the three upended SKIS. No wonder those replies did not look right, particularly 29a. So, finished without understanding how, should be a fail.]

Anonymous 8:16 AM  

Did not understand the META answer.

Anonymous 8:19 AM  

You can add step to any family member, I think is the idea.

mmorgan 8:20 AM  

Finished the puzzle with no errors and couldn’t figure out the theme. This happens to me from time to time, and when it does, it raises the deep existential question of whether the fault is in the puzzle or in me. Could be both, of course. I kept thinking it had something to do with RAISE and THE BAR (which is what you do on some ski lifts), but that didn’t pan out, so I decided to quit and wait to read Rex. And there it was, a Big Forehead Slap Duh! I don’t know how I rationalized answers like CASHIS. Now that I see it, it’s indeed nifty and elegant. Happy Boxing Day.

Sutsy 8:27 AM  

Congratulations to those able to pallet the MOIRA, ERMA, ERIKSATIE, THIS/KISS PPP stew seasoned with a dash of THRUM. Not to my taste.

Mike Herlihy 8:31 AM  

RIKSHA is a possibility, Lewis.

dash riprock 8:32 AM  

Rex Parker: Please delete my duplicate post at the other end of this link.


We see poke bowl casual-dining eateries (Chipotle-style of service), variously named with "Poke," everywhere during travels, even in small communities. Many are Chinese-mainland owned. There are scads in the DC area, you've just sailed right by them.

RooMonster 8:41 AM  

Hey All !
Was questioning how in tarhooties PENCILS was the answer to it's clue. Eventually saw the SKI going UP in RUBIKS CUBE, connected to the IRT, and had the AHA moment (after having the Revealer already filled in.) Went in search of the other two.

Pretty neat Theme idea, nicely executed.

OFFbrand here first, like Rex. I believe that was it for writeovers. Oh, nope, had STEr for STEP. You know, Monster, well , I guess that's it. Dadster? Broster? Sister - Har.

Happy Boxing Day to all our Canadians!
Happy Thursday.

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 8:41 AM  

I’ve done so many puzzles where the clued answer was… puzzling instead of a theme, so I never know if it’s just a bad answer or if there’s something more to it. I solved, confused, until I read how the theme interacted with the grid.

dash riprock 8:42 AM  

Rex Parker: Please delete my duplicate post at the other end of this link.


Stepmother. Stepfather. Step-pet. Et cetera.

Dr.A 8:49 AM  

Well I got the whole thing and had no clue about the theme! Sad but true. I never heard of the song “THIS KISS”, I figured PENCILS was close enough to PENCIL SKIRT and tbh I was very baffled by CASHIS. Now that it’s been Rex-splained I see it, doh! Very clever. Enjoyed the puzzle.

Whatsername 9:15 AM  

My first thought too. LOL.I don’t think I’ve ever heard that name anywhere else.

Roberto 9:21 AM  

i thought this was one of the easiest Thursdays in quite some time. Didnt know the Faith HIll song, but the crosses filled that in. I saw the revealer before I started and I kept looking for " t-bar" somewhere

pabloinnh 9:27 AM  

What @Dr. A just said, except that I thought CASHIS! was sort of OK for "money talks". Another one of those puzzles that had more going on than I saw, although I did go back and find the SKIS going up and figured that was that. The only slight connection I made to a SKILIFT was THEBAR (HI @ Lewis) but that was a real stretch.

No real problems with the fill except for MOIRA and taking way too long to remember both SPACEK and DODGSON, both of which I knew, or used to know.

An Elegant Design indeed, ED. Wish I'd looked harder for the whole trick, and thanks for all the fun.

Whatsername 9:34 AM  

An extremely easy Thursday which I finished wondering why it was so lacking of a theme. Of course I knew that second part wasn’t true but the only themer I could see was CASH IS KING. I couldn’t name a Faith Hill song if my life depended on it so I therefore assumed that THIS was a perfectly acceptable title which rhymed with bliss. And I’m betting I wasn’t the only one who looked at PENCILS and mistakenly assumed it was correct as a plural.

After coming here, I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only one who needed a further explanation. OTOH, there weren’t as many proper names as we sometimes get which was nice. I haven’t been on a SKI LIFT in a couple of decades, but this sure made me want to plant those poles and point ‘em downhill. Unfortunately, I doubt I could even afford the lift ticket these days, much less the equipment. Wouldn’t matter though, as I’d probably fall on my face and get run over my snowboarders anyway.

Beezer 9:40 AM  

@Dash…once your post is let through, I don’t think Rex can delete it, but YOU can if you actually scroll back to the December 21 Rex, then scroll down to your duplicate post and YOU have a DELETE button at the bottom.

Carola 10:28 AM  

Not knowing what to do about the missing SKIRT, I pressed on, having previously accepted "THIS" as a one-word song title. So, I needed the reveal to sort those two issues out and also to correct DODdSON with KING. Nice one! I liked how well disguised the theme was, at least for me. I also got a little solver's thrill out of THRUM - great word, rare in a grid (I think).

@Ella Dershowitz - When I see your name at the top of the grid, I look forward to the just-right combination of brain-racking and fun. Thank you.

Nancy 10:29 AM  

This is my kind of puzzle, so I want to love it. But the fact is that I found it a snooze because everything came in on its own without my having to even realize there was a theme, much less what it was. The song that I never heard of could just as well have been titled "THIS", and "CASH IS" could well have been a new expression from the generations that like to shorten absolutely everything for the purpose of texting.

Only at PENCILS should I have woken up, because PENCIL SKIRTS were a Thing when I was a teenager and I should have gone looking for them. But I didn't. Once I hit the revealer, I went back to look for all the SKI LIFTS, but by then the puzzle was over.

That rarest of things: A very good puzzle that I didn't appreciate. Which is completely on me. (Maybe if I hadn't been awakened and kept awake all night long by a banging radiator. This has been going on all week. Sure hope my super and handyman can solve the problem tomorrow...)

Dennis 10:34 AM  

This puzzle was quite annoying for me—not because of the puzzle's quality (which is exactly the type I really like), but because my brain just thought that everything was fine with the three partials. For 28A, I didn't know the song so THIS seemed just fine. For 29A, PENCILS seemed like a fun shorthand for pencil skirts. And then for 60A, CASHIS made zero sense, but my noggin ignored that problem. So, even though I dutifully found the three SKI's going up in the puzzle, I thought: Okay. Whatever. Really, that's it? I had to come here to find out just how befuddled I was. Maybe my coffee wasn't strong enough. Argh.

Anonymous 10:35 AM  

I am surprised that Rex would mildly call out the “cubed” in a clue with “RUBIKSCUBES” in the answers and yet not say anything about PEN/PENCILS. They not only coexist as answers, they cross. I know they don’t actually have an etymological common ancestor, but it seemed really weak, especially since the one could have very simply turned into AFT/FEN with no issues at all.

Anonymous 10:45 AM  

Fun as a gentle letdown from Christmas morning chaos

Especially like GILLS for bass organ today. I see myself as a linear thinker and crossword clues force my brain to seek new grooves which is good for us all, but especially so for the aging. Glad to rise to Ella’s level and be able to finally say ICY what you’re up to you clever little vixen 💎

Gary Jugert 10:52 AM  

Los fanáticos de los logotipos buscan complacer.

Roared through this never seeing or needing the theme unfortunately until arriving in the southeast corner and then slapped hard by a GASSY (not fussy) baby, and DODGSON crossing ING. Looking back, the SKILIFTS are wonky and I wouldn't recommend riding them. Also, mostly they're peak dropper-offers and mostly base picker-uppers, but of course at most ski areas the picker-uppers are the SLY rogues with their Schnapped cocoas.

I thought a PEAT BOG is a place? Seems weird to say it as the clue implies, like: [Dryland fuel source] > THE FOREST.

😫 THRUM? What engine THRUMS? And SATS are independent of GPAS so they might accompany the water bill too.

😡 We reduce one of the more important mid-century literary movements to "coffee house poets." Nice job. Hemingway wrote short words and Dante wrote about Hell.

Propers: 9
Places: 0
Products: 9
Partials: 3
Foreignisms: 1
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 22 of 76 (29%)

Funnyisms: 5 😄

Uniclues:

1 Wise kettle of fish.
2 Salves the stinger.
3 One with a rosy sunset.

1 ASTUTE POKE BOWL (~)
2 PUTTIES RAY GUNS
3 AIM TO PLEASE SKY (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Where Sauron kept his LEGO SETS. MT. DOOM TOY BOXES.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jae 11:23 AM  

Medium. The toughest section for me was the middle west. I did not know the Faith Hill song nor The Handmaid’s Tale role (Schitt’s Creek would have been a gimme) and THRUM did not leap to mind. That said, I did know ERIK SATIE but not the thing about the typewriter as an instrument. Getting the theme helped me finish.

Other WOEs: DODGSON and ATARI (as clued)

Clever and fun, liked it.

dash riprock 11:25 AM  

Rex Parker: Please delete my duplicate post at the other end of this link.


Beezer - Pay no mind. The Rex, jus' taking the piss. (Any post can be deleted at any time, anywhere, by a moderator, naturally.)

dash riprock 11:27 AM  

Rex Parker: Please delete my duplicate post at the other end of this link.


Your thinking, kerreckt. 'Tis.. an area (place), described by certain characteristics.

Your fashioned 'implies, like' analogy worx for me.. well, sorta. Forests aren't necessarily dry. Cloud forests, for one. Rain forests, for another. Bogs are waterlogged.

How was The Shed.

Niallhost 11:28 AM  

Once I got SKI LIFTS I was pretty sure that the letters "S.K.I." were going to "lift" out of the puzzle leaving an unrelated word as the answer to the theme clues. But I knew THIS KISS was correct, and eliminating SKI meant that a 5-letter word wouldn't fit. So took a little longer to see the upward SKI.

Was sure that Piper Laurie was the only Oscar nominee for Carrie until none of the crosses worked. Normal Thursday resistance for most of the grid until the NW section stumped me longer than it should have. Finally broke through with ABASE which gave me BOWL and then POKE followed close behind. Longer than it should have taken today, but an enjoyable Thursday. 23:47

jberg 11:29 AM  

OK, I only just now figures out the theme. CASH IS didn't fit the clue, so I realized, much much later, that I could I could use a "peak picker-upper" to add KING to the end of it, and get CASH IS KING. The other two instances were much harder to find -- for all I knew, the song might have been called simply THIS, rather than THIS KISS; and if you were wearing PENCIL SLACKs you might refer them to simply as PENCILS (cf. Capris)-- so they were not so clearly theme answswers. Oh, wait! I just notice that the part that goes up is a SKI! Oughta have seen that much earlier.

Aside from that I amused my self by imagining some poor guy who proposes, proferring a ring, which his intended forgoes, saying "Why would I marry a loser like you!" That would certainly be a KNOCK!

You're all probably getting tired of my complaints about being expected to know all the model names used by all the manufacturers--but crossing the maker of the Telluride with the maker of the Tempur-Pedic really is a bit much.

ERIK SATIE is having quite a puzzle run this week, I've seen his name at least 3 times (not all in the NYT). Lucky for me, Leroy Anderson's surname was too short, and his whole name too long. (Here's his typewriter piece. I didn't know Satie had done something similar 33 years earlier; apparently it was part of the score for the ballet "Parade."

egsforbreakfast 11:33 AM  

At first I thought "Forego a ring, maybe" might be KNiCK, as the Knicks haven't won one in 51 years. So long that many former fans have decided to no longer BEATNIKS games at all.

I find that when cooking scrambled eggs, LOIS the best stovetop setting.

I love those Southern preachers and the way they can draw out every syllable. Like "PAYRAISE the Lord."

Investments of Samira Wiley's paychecks from A Handmaids Tale are known as MOIRA's IRAS.

Did you know I was once married to Ms. Benatar? Now she's my EXPAT.

Lovely, fresh theme. Good cluing on much of the fill. Really nice puzzle. Thanks, Ella Dershowitz.

Anonymous 11:44 AM  

Meta = beyond. Metaphysical. Beyond the screen you’re watching. Nods to the real reality not the false reality.

Anonymous 11:46 AM  

I solved the same way. Not sure if it qualifies as clever if we can finish it without understanding the weird answers that are close.

Teedmn 11:48 AM  

I didn't go looking for the missing S[KIRT] until I got to the revealer answer. Before that, I was perfectly okay with leaving 28A at THIS. I had to look for the KISS after finding CASH IS and knowing the KING was lifting away (definitely helped fill in that annoying bank.) This was all fun to do and I was relieved that we weren't getting a themeless Thursday, especially since it was pretty easy without the theme.

LOGOMANIA is trying to bring to my mind a different word that maybe means being overly wordy or...it's hard to come up with the unknown unknown when you aren't sure it even exists. If anyone knows what word I'm trying to think of, let me know, please.

Nice Thursday, Ella Dershowitz, thanks!

Fish 12:13 PM  

informal : showing or suggesting an explicit awareness of itself or oneself as a member of its category : cleverly self-referential


Referring to the habit of TV characters talking directly to the camera, i.e., breaking the fourth wall. Oliver Hardy did this regularly in many L&H shorts.

Teedmn 12:28 PM  

Clued as "Various flavored powders for milk" = NESQUIKS. (Sorry).

M and A 12:32 PM  

Well, this cute puz's solvequest thrummed along real smooothly, at our house. Didn't know who used typewriters as percussion instruments [thought it was BEQ, actually]. sooo ... THI? was an unknown Faith Hill song, to M&A. But then I skied on downhill to get CASHIS, which made m&e doubt that I has CASCA spelled up right. But then the Vail lifted, and I had m&e a nice ahar moment.

staff weeject pick: SKI, of course. honrable mention to cousin SKY, which had a neat puz-oriented clue.
Primo weeject stacks, NW & SE, btw.

fave stuff included: AIMTOPLEASE. LOIS's comic book clue. RAYGUNS. PAYRAISE [almost a soulmate of SKILIFTS, huh?]
a few no-knows: MOIRA. DODGSON. And CASCA, marginally.

Thanx for the lift, Ms. Dershowitz darlin. Totally GASSY cool.

Masked & Anonymo4Us

... and a few more holiday-related boxes, for Boxin Day...

"Dangerfield Punchlines #75" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Nancy 12:33 PM  

It's not the manufacturer they want; it's the competitor. And since Temper-Pedic makes beds, the competitor makes beds too. So it's your SERTA/SEALY kealoa -- and by the time I got there, I pretty much had all of SERTA.

Teedmn 12:38 PM  

Found it: logorrhea

jb129 12:46 PM  

I solved as a themeless (just relieved it wasn't a Thursday Rebus) & came here for the theme. Having said that, I really liked it & thought it was pretty easy. I was thrown by CASHIS, ISS, didn't know DODGSON but all were doable. I liked THRUM.
All in all a fun Thursday & thank you, Ella :)

Stumptown Steve 12:56 PM  

Atari and IRT were a natick for me. Like others finished faster than usual but did not see the upward ski trick even after getting the revealer. Thanks for this blog

dgd 1:18 PM  

Whatsername
FwIw
Lewis Carroll of course loved to play with words.
Carrroll is a variation of Charles
I learned his birth name in school. so this word play jogs my memory.

AnonymouSteve 1:24 PM  

I think 16A/17A may be a bonus themer - "Raise the Bar"

Anonymous 1:30 PM  

JJK
About your suggestion
Ski transport. They obviously wanted a harder answ. So the clue was a misdirection. Nothing wrong or unusual about that. I thought it was a good one. Take it out and more people would complain here about it being too easy

Anonymous 1:38 PM  

I liked this Thursday puzzle, but in the last 2 months I was very frustrated with Thursdays. So many had multiple letters in one block. I print it and use a pencil, hard to fit the letters in. If they were similar or consistently related words, but random seems like it is against the rules of xwords.

Anoa Bob 1:43 PM  

Is it "logorrhea"? It means extreme wordiness and can even qualify as a psychology disorder when it includes lots of repetitiveness. I have a sort of mnemonic for it; it's like "diarrhea of the mouth".

Anonymous 1:45 PM  

An easy puzzle, it a while to suss out the revealer

Anonymous 2:26 PM  

THIS seemed like a reasonable song title. PENCILS seemed like a reasonable name for tight-fitting pants. CASHIS was a little weird but I could buy it as a modern phrase. So, this puzzle solved like a themeless for me.

Anonymous 2:31 PM  

Sutzy
ERM(Brombeck) )use to be ubiquitous in Crosswords but its use has lessened of late. But it’s still considered classic crosswordese. She was once one of the most well known newspaper humor columnist in the US.
For long time solvers it’s a gimme.
It will show up again

dgd 2:40 PM  

I did exactly what you did. Thought of cash is king but never found where the king was. Nor get KISS or SKIRTS at all. I still think it’s a win!

SouthsideJohnny 2:50 PM  

Thanks all. I had my biggest Brain Freeze of the year on this very simple clue / answer. I read ANY in the clue and interpreted it as EVERY ! Major league DUH for me on that one.

Anonymous 2:57 PM  

Anonymous 10:35 am
The Times has long accepted crosses like that pen & pencil for a long time. They happen very often. Rex only complains when he thinks the crosses are egregious.
So you will continue to see them

SharonAK 3:46 PM  

I'll be sorts of nosy to see the pet pics end because Rex has been having so much fun - and getting entertaining results with his write ups.

A 4:14 PM  

I like corner-turning, ladder-climbing puzzles and I like ERIK SATIE. Plus my pets are included in today’s Holiday Pet Pics - thanks, Michael. Great ones both yesterday and today. @Whatsername, your Sassy looks very much like my Eudora, right down to the asymmetrical facial marking.

Once again I tried to get the trick without looking at the revealer and couldn’t, but once I saw SKI LIFTS the SKY cleared.

I liked the PEN and PENCIL crossing each other in a war of words, and TINY dangling from GREAT.

@Rex, cool/weird that you just mentioned SATIE on Bluesky.

I am familiar with SATIE’s Gymnopédies and probably learned about Parade in music school, but I needed a refresher. This is taken from program notes of a Charlotte Symphony concert: Parade, “a wartime work for Diaghilev’s Ballets Russes by Satie and Jean Cocteau…. Cocteau hoped to add sirens, whistles, gunshots, and a typewriter, but Diaghilev cut most of these effects….. Picasso designed the sets, an immense stage curtain, and the costumes, including enormous Cubist superstructures for the Managers.… Guillaume Apollinaire’s program notes heralded the ballet as “a sort of sur-realism,” a point of departure for l’esprit nouveau.

“Critic Jean Poueigh…..dismissed Parade as ‘an outrage on French taste’, and Satie ‘for his lack of wit, skill, and inventiveness.’ Satie responded, ’Monsieur and dear friend—you are an ass, and an unmusical one! Signed, Erik Satie’”

Here’s an excerpt.

Happy Two Turtle Doves Day!

Gary Jugert 4:38 PM  

@dash riprock 11:27 AM
The Shed is always amazing. It still has the aura of @egsforbreakfast as a 20-something. I tried to copy their food here at home for Christmas eve and failed of course, but it was still pretty good. Red chile, blue tortillas, papas, and garlic toast. Yum.

Anonymous 5:01 PM  

I found this puzzle pretty easy but I have questions about 11D. Isn’t this an analogy clue? Chess is to check as go is to…Atari? How does that make sense? ‘Check’ is a near-final chess move so I figured the answer would be a near-final move in the game ‘go’. Can somebody explain please?

Hugh 5:34 PM  

While I didn't like this as much as @Rex did, I do recognize and appreciate a clever, well executed theme when I see one. Once I sussed the revealer, the themers fell fairly easily other than THISKISS - just not very familiar with the work of this artist. That particular part of the middle west gave me some trouble. Took forever to get THRUM - I've never used the word but does not look totally foreign to me so I may have heard it on occasion. (Had PURRR - yes with three Rs! for a while!)
Much of the fill seemed easy for a Thursday and I'm not sure why the solve didn't excite me, even the bit of clever cluing - for GILLS and OBIT, didn't evoke any AHAs or Laughs (or even smiles) from me. I did like AIMTOPLEASE, RUBIKSCUBE AND THE BAR. So now I'm thinking that this is a Hugh problem and not the puzzle's problem. Maybe not enough zingers and maybe just not my cuppa. But respect for the construction feat.
Like @Rex - I wrote in ELOPE immediately and refused to let it go for far too long.

LP 5:50 PM  

There is kind of a bonus themer with “raise the bar” (what you do when you get off the chairlift) if you look at the second half of 16A + 17A: (PAY)RAISE + THEBAR -- and it’s at the top of the ski lifts!

Liveprof 6:51 PM  

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