Teng, singer dubbed "Asia's eternal queen of pop" / SAT 3-5-22 / Fictional device in which to convey secret information / Calvin and Hobbes character described as a six-year-old who shaves / Expression ending with a rising voice / Traditional filling for momo

Saturday, March 5, 2022

Constructor: Nam Jin Yoon

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: momo (30D: Traditional filling for momo (Nepalese dumplings) (YAK)) —
Momo (Nepali: म:म:,Tibetan: མོག་མོག་, Wylie: mog mog, Ladakhi: མོག་མོག, Hindi: मोमो) is a type of dumpling primarily popular in and native to NepalTibet and parts of India Momo can be found in the cuisines of TibetNepal and India. It is similar to baozijiaozi and mantou in Chinese cuisinebuuz in Mongolian cuisinegyoza in Japanese cuisinemandu in Korean cuisine and manti in Afghan cuisines. (wikipedia)
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Is this my favorite constructor? I wouldn't really be comfortable picking just one. There are so many talented constructors working right now (particularly at the New Yorker and the American Values Club Crossword, as well many independent outlets), that it would be hard to say definitively, yes, this one constructor is my favorite. But as far as people who have bylines that appear at least semi-regularly in the NYTXW, I would, tentatively, say yes, Nam Jin Yoon is my favorite, despite the fact that he's been constructing for only a few years. Maybe *because* of that fact. There's a freshness, a life in his puzzles that genuinely crackles, and somehow he's able to marry that energy to a very careful and thoughtful craftsmanship. They feel like the work of a young visionary and an old veteran, simultaneously. They are youthful without that extreme "look at me being youthful!" try-hardness that comes from over-reliance on generation-specific proper nouns—though he's not afraid to throw new (to-the-grid) proper nouns at you, that's for sure. It's just that it seems like he wants you to get them, wants you to learn the names, and the foods, wants you to appreciate them. This feeling of "welcome" comes from balance, from moving the cultural and generational focus of your puzzles allllll over the map, as well as from making sure that relative obscurities and less famous names don't pile up in the same section. Again, that's craft. There's a sense of play and humor in the grids that is unmistakable and irresistible. I think anyone aspiring to make themeless puzzles should study the work of Nam Jin Yoon (even though there's not a ton of it to study yet!). I wish he would turn his hand to themed puzzles and see what he can do with them. Because he has the potential to be one of the greats. Like, Patrick Berry- / Liz Gorski- / Merl Reagle-great. Next time you wonder "Gee, Rex, don't you like *any* puzzles?," first, stop, I like a lot of puzzles, and second, just search "Nam Jin Yoon" on my blog. Hasn't missed yet.

[11D: ___ Teng, singer dubbed "Asia's eternal queen of pop"]

Despite nailing MOSS MOI ONES STOIC and SODOI right out of the gate, and despite knowing that 3D: Halter? was going to mean "one who halts," I could not come up with SENTRY, in part because I wanted DITTO (?) at 20A: "Uh-huh" ("RIGHT"). Without SENTRY or RIGHT or FLIGHT things just kind of broke down. Luckily I didn't have to look far to find a new starting point. HOYA was a total gimme. And then, off the "Y," I got TYRANNY (21D: Rule to take exception to). And that was all I needed to get well and truly moving—catapulted into the grid by HOYA TYRANNY! After that, I worked my way to the bottom of the grid, like so:


After that, the solve went into another gear, and a real Friday energy took over. Kinetic energy. Exhilaration. Zing zoom. Because at this point I had not yet tapped into the longer answers. But once I did: whoosh. The grid structure—a gorgeous mirror symmetry on the diagonal—allows the answers to flow really nicely one into the next. No dank corners, no dead ends. I enjoyed spinning and swirling around the unusually shaped grid. And while I enjoyed this puzzle from start to finish, and there are many highlights, nothing beat this absolutely apex solving moment:


I don't know if that clue is Will's or Nam Jin's or what, but it is really something to see a "?" clue elevate an already great answer like that. Just the perfect misdirection. Ridiculously clever. And immediately after this: CONE OF SILENCE! And then a final fall to the finish via the cascading CRÈME DE LA CRÈME and FORGET ABOUT IT! This puzzle knows it's the CRÈME DE LA CRÈME and no, you should not FORGET ABOUT IT. You should remember.

Some stuff:
  • 30D: Traditional filling for momo (Nepalese dumplings) (YAK) — had the "YA-" and so filled my dumplings with YAM. This made NIKOLA the hardest answer to get in the puzzle By Far (39A: Tesla, for one). "NIM- ... NIMBLE? Was Tesla NIMBLE?"
  • 7D: Chancellor Scholz of Germany (OLAF) — I have committed this OLAF fact to memory half a dozen times now, just since Scholz took power last year, and not a one of those half a dozen times has stuck. Really hard for my brain to get a name I'm convinced is Norwegian to stick to a German chancellor. I'll keep trying.
  • 37D: Reversible patterned fabrics (DAMASKS) — a word I know exclusively from Shakespeare (and crosswords of course). "I have seen them damasked white and red..." It's from "My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun," that sonnet. Hang on ... whoops, misremembered the quote. It's "I have seen roses damask'd, red and white." Here's the whole thing (Sonnet 130):
  • 8D: Easily bought (VENAL) — I get this confused with VENIAL. This happened just the other day when I was trying to sort the distinction between Cardinal Sin and VENIAL Sin. I always want the sin to be VENAL, because if you're susceptible to bribery, well, that seems pretty sinful. But VENIAL stems from venia (L. "forgiveness"), while VENAL stems from venum (L. "thing for sale"). Oh, look, Merriam-Webster has a little essay all about this particular confusion:
  • 46A: Like a dewlap (SAGGY) — a final salute to this puzzle for hiding little bits of joy in unexpected places; in this case, for working "dewlap" into the clue for SAGGY and then crossing it with IGUANA—a famously and extravagantly dewlapped creature (42D: Animal that climbs cactuses to eat their flowers). Bravo.

See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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127 comments:

Brian A in SLC 6:30 AM  

Okay, I apologize for intruding with a Wordle question, but:
Every so often the game wipes out all my recent stats, and reverts to the same historical point, when I'd played 23 times total. This seemingly has nothing to do with the transition to the NYTs - it's recurred constantly since the transition. NYTs Help won't even respond, and I find nothing by Googling.

Anyone else having this repeating problem? Be curious to know, even if you don't have a fix.

(I don't much care about the stats, but I just went on a tear of about eight straight birdies with an Eagle in the mix - then Bang, it was all gone)

Wordler 6:34 AM  

I can't add or subtract anything from @Rex's praise for this marvelous puzzle. Jeff Chen POW. I was perusing "Analyze this puzzle" at Xword Info for the first time. Amazing! In particular one section has a chart showing the number of words for each word length (3-14 today). It also lists the words. For me and anyone who likes to pick their Wordle starter from the Xword puzz., this is very convenient. I highly recommend this site.

Anonymous 6:52 AM  

Really enjoyed this one, full of novel answers and strong fill and clever clues. A model puzzle.

Lewis 7:01 AM  

@rex -- Great catch on DEWLAP and IGUANA, and I echo your review from top to bottom.

Lewis 7:03 AM  

Sparkling, simply sparkling, this puzzle, from the gorgeous grid design, to remarkably lively answers, to sterling cluing, to Saturday-worthy resistance. Wow.

Answers? How about the side-by-side FRIENDLY BANTER and FORGET ABOUT IT! How about CRÈME DE LA CRÈME! FRIENDLY BANTER! PROVE IT! ON POINT! AND SCENE! Man, how a terrific puzzle can showcase the beauty of language.

And lessons in the art of making clues tricky. In [Contracting sheet], is “contracting” referring to business contracts or receding? In [They may be dealt or folded], the “they” sounds like poker hands, and yet the answer (ARMS) are what hands attach to! NJY could have clued NIKOLA as [Serbian inventor Tesla] which can only have one answer, but instead he made it [Tesla, for one], which can have several. And how clever is [Needle exchange?] for FRIENDLY BANTER?

Adding to my solving experience was grit and drama. At one point I was stuck, frantically jagging from one area to another like a pinball pinging from bumper to bumper. At another point, one answer begat a maxi-splat, an instantaneous fill-in of a third of the grid.

Beauty on so many levels. When I saw your name atop the puzzle, NJY, I let out an inner “Woo-hoo!”, and I can tell you that I’ll do the same thing next time. Your puzzle was a 56D (MEG) backward, and please, sir, keep them coming. Thank you for this puzzle and your work!

Brian A in SLC 7:04 AM  

On 12-down, anyone else get the CR...and throw down CREAM OF THE CROP? Oops.

Megafrim 7:04 AM  

Surprised at the prominent "Get Smart" reference in a modern puzzle, but I love it! Whenever the Cone of Silence was deployed, neither party would be able to hear what the other was saying.

Chief: Max, do you hear that echo in here?
Max: What?
Chief: I said do you hear that echo?
Max: Do I hear a what?
Chief: Echo. ECHO! ECHO! ECHO!
Max: Oh. I heard it that time!

Anonymous 7:10 AM  

There were two clues I liked for completely personal reasons:

PROVEIT was verbatim what I named my childhood stuffed rabbit, after a book my dad was reading. (My brother named his panda after himself).

The CONESOFSILENCE is a running joke in my house when someone is working from home in the living room, and nobody is allowed to disturb them.

The new words were refreshing, FRIENDLY BANTER was a good one, but I just wish he pushed the solve time another 20 minutes at least. Unfortunately, I felt the puzzle had way too many unoriginal gimmies, in the Southeast in particular. Maybe it's a little harder than a Wednesday, but only because of a handful of original answers which felt easy-by-association.

TJS 7:11 AM  

Pretty much agree with Rex for a change. Excellent Saturday level challenge. The only issue I had was a "masa" dish crossing a "momo" filling, but that's a quibble compared to all the great fill. Oddly enough, I got all the way to "hoya" before I was sure of an answer, and held off on many entries until I worked out the crosses, but that's what this is all about, right? Favorite was "andscene".

Well done, NJY and NYT.

Son Volt 7:15 AM  

Some really nice stuff here. Love the look of the arrow shooting to the NW and the related symmetry. CONE OF SILENCE is fantastic as it ties in both Get Smart and Dune. Fine cluing - but not as enamored with FRIENDLY BANTER as Rex was. The more formal FORGET ABOUT IT was a downer in lieu of the Brooklynese. Imperturbable adds elegance to the cluing.

Including Nepal in the clue got me YAK. Tried to get thru Mrs. DALLOWAY years ago unsuccessfully - same with the film version. The molé poblano TAMALES at Factory on Ludlow are STURDY - not SAGGY and absolutely delicious.

Look at brother eat MOE

Highly enjoyable Saturday solve.

bocamp 7:16 AM  

Thx Nam Jin, for this sparkling, as well as crunchy, Sat. puz! :)

Med+

Found it very difficult to get a foothold anywhere. Had to remind self of Lewis's 'faith solve' concept more than once. Finally got the boost I needed from KAPOW, and slowly branched out from there.

With that head of steam, things really started popping, and in the end, it turned out to be a slightly above avg difficulty solve.

Unknowns (in the context): MOSS, CONE OF SILENCE, MOE, FARCE, EPA, TAMALES, DALLOWAY, KIMONO, DAMASKS, STILL, IGUANA, RIB, OLAF, VENAL, YAK, MARC, LOVE POEM, ELISIONS, TERESA.

I always look forward to the challenge of a Sat NYT xword, and this one didn't disappoint. Liked it a lot! :)
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yd pg: 4:07 / W: 4*

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John H 7:28 AM  

The best puzzle and the best Rex for months and months. Thank you for the sonnet, Rex. A half hour of delight.

Surprised that "cone of silence" still has currency. I guess my generation kept the joke alive. If you remember "Get Smart" you may recall that entering the cone to convey a secret didn't work at all well because the participants couldn't really hear each other. A bit of post Marx Brothers slapstick.

Unknown 7:29 AM  

I sympathize. I have made a wordle matrix excel sheet on which I track the word , my score, and various stats like parts of speech, unique letter count, most used letters in each position — and of course there’s a bar graph. I include a column that tracks when I experience wordle rage. ( BLOKE and RUPEE so far). I realize I need help but its too late. Oh, and I also save a screen shot of each completed puzzle.

Unknown 7:30 AM  

A generous and gracious review of this excellent puzzle! Nice work all around.

Phillyrad1999 7:34 AM  

One of the more enjoyable fills in a long time. Ditto Rex I wanted So Do I.to Be Ditto. Had a mental a block with Fix=Mess. And was fixated on wrap either being a garment or a sandwich for a little while. Very enjoyable way to start. the day.

SouthsideJohnny 7:40 AM  

I don’t follow the individual constructors as avidly as some others here do, but this one deserves a White Knight award for riding in on his steed and salvaging what had thus far been a very dismal week for the Times’ crew. Some really good clues (see ICE CAP, for example). CONE OF SILENCE was a bit of a WoE but at least the clue let you know it was sci fi, which functioned as a de facto WoE-alert.

The toughly clued ELISIONS next to the poetry dude made that section pretty brutal, even for a Saturday. Now I get to contemplate the concept of a YAK-burger (wondering of course if wild-caught YAK tastes superior to farm raised YAK ).

Joe Dipinto 7:45 AM  

This turned out to be a lot easier than I thought it was gonna be at first. It took awhile to see the long downs on the left, even with a bunch of acrosses tossed into that section immediately, but no major hangups along the way. Any puzzle that has CONE OF SILENCE in it is RIGHT ON POINT as far as I'm concerned.

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thfenn 7:47 AM  

Just going to second (or third, or fiftieth) the praise for this one. It's actually reassuring somehow to love a puzzle/solve and then find out it truly was great and I'm not just happy because I did it.

Made a fine MESS of the west with Imfine before IGETBY, MElee before MEDIA, cOpy before MOCK, but it was pure joy when the two long downs popped out. Fun, energizing start to the day.

Erik 7:52 AM  

Also appreciated ICECAP crossing EPA.

puzzlehoarder 8:01 AM  

Did you know that CREAMOFTHECROP and CREMEDELACREME have exactly the same number of letters? I can't be the only one to stumble onto this today.

That little discovery flipped a switch on my solve. The puzzle went from being a high resistance Saturday enigma to a fun Friday romp.

I spent a near late week amount of time trying to start that top tier and couldn't get a toe hold anywhere. When I gave up and took a shot at 12D CREAMOFTHECROP was my first guess. When the count was right I set to work on the south end. What I found instead of CROP was a bunch of easy fill that gave me CREME and the whole puzzle was smooth sailing after that.

If I recall correctly this constructor's previous offering had a similar diagonal symmetry. When I saw the name I expected a high quality solve and got it.

On a side note I have no idea what the relationship is between STILL and "Sparkling." I know sparkling wines but I've never heard the term STILL for a wine. I'll look into it after breakfast.

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Conrad 8:06 AM  


Like @Rex, my momo was initially filled with YAm. That left me with NIm--- for Tesla and I thought, "Nimrod?" Obvioulsy, I was mistaking the company's namesake for its CEO.

J. Brodie 8:16 AM  

I am in the business of putting old heads on young shoulders, and all my pupils are the CREME DE LA CREME. Give me a girl at an impressionable age and she is mine for life.

pabloinnh 8:24 AM  

@Brian A-Not only did I have CREAMOFTHECROP, I was very proud of myself, and the C led directly to CONEOFSILENCE, which both delighted me and made me wonder how many "younger" solvers would be mystified by it. MRSDALLOWAY had me erasing my original down answer, and it was fixed pretty easily.

The usual problems reading tiny numbers had me writing FINEST for FLIGHT, which messed things up for a while. Also went with STABLE, then STINGY, before finally arriving at STURDY for "unlikely to tip". Talk about a misdirect. Did OFL's YAM>YAK thing but everything else was smooth and smile-inducing.

Hey Rex-it's Not Just You. NJY cab construct my Saturday puzzles any time, or every time.

Saturdazo!, and thanks for all the fun.

Z 8:25 AM  

As any she belied with false compare
Ooh Snap! Old Billy Bard with the Elizabethan Diss Track taking out all the lesser poets. Get your trite tropes outta here!

The diagonal mirror symmetry is the first thing you notice, but the above average use of PPP is what takes this puzzle over the top. First, at 15 of 70, 21%, this is about the minimum we ever see in a NYTX. But, unlike yesterday, it’s very diverse. Asian pop singer, Latin American poet, a Marx Brothers movie, Disney, Woolf, sports team, scientist, politician, lawyers, … What Rex said about this being a primer applies to how PPP is used.

I think my experience was similar to others, spending a quarter of the solve looking for purchase, but once an answer or three gelled it was “zoom, we are off.” I’d rate it challenging-easy

On a personal note, why do I always want the Woolf character to be a golfer? I have to leave it at -ALLOWAY every time because cALLOWAY is what I want to write even as I am always 90% sure it’s DALLOWAY. Every. Single. Time. Many precious nanoseconds wasted unnecessarily every time Mrs. DALLOWAY appears.

@joe dipinto late yesterday - Thanks for the libfix link. You know I chuckled at, Some of these formations have been considered barbarisms by prescriptive writers on style, because of course they do.

Frantic Sloth 8:26 AM  

Well, that was fun! Another "impossible to do until it's not" puzzle.
Once again entering answers that I was sure were wrong, but somehow were not. It seemed to be the only way progress could be made, at least at the beginning.
Then it became easier, but still a tussle. Liked it loads. And no wonder - NJY strikes again!



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Z 8:32 AM  
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amyyanni 8:42 AM  

Sparkly. 🍾🥂

Son Volt 8:50 AM  

@puzzlehoarder 8:10a - go to an Italian restaurant and you’ll be asked your interest in water - gassata (sparkling - with gas) or liscia (still - no gas).

Peter P 8:50 AM  

@puzzlehoarder -- Sparkling water vs still water

mmorgan 8:53 AM  

Terrific puzzle — challenging and rewarding.

I love momo. We had two Tibetan restaurants in town. One of them served pretty much nothing but yak. It didn’t last long.

Unknown 9:03 AM  

No exactly sure but I’m pretty sure Wordle keeps your stats in a cookie on the browser. If you regularly clear your browser information, such as doing a clear cache, it will wipe out the cookie.

Alternatively you may have set the browser t only retain cookies for a limited time.

Carola 9:05 AM  

Lovely puzzle, fun to solve. I was slow to achieve critical mass in the top tier, but after TELL ON TAMALES made a speedy transit to the bottom. So many pleasing answers!

Do-overs: YAm, STingY ('Unlikely to tip") before STURDY. No-idea: MOE, MARC, TERESA, CONE OF SILENCE.

BunnyR 9:06 AM  

I had absolutely nothing until 14D. Filled in No Possibility, and thought I was so smart. Wouldn't change it until I had IENDLY, and sadly had to concede that I wasn't so clever after all.

I worked very hard on this puzzle, and enjoyed every minute of it. Excellent Saturday!

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 9:11 AM  

As a performing clavichordist (in small rooms for small polite audiences) I used to open concerts with 'Let us now enter the CONE OF SILENCE'. But I had given it up since I figured the vast majority of the world now had no idea what that was. But I guess the Times is giving me the all clear to use it again.

I had a terrible time on the top, I confidently put in twoS, ditto, eric and cheap, so I saw nothing in the long answers. The rest wasn't so bad.

Annoyingly, here I am through with a Saturday puzzle at 9. The reason being, I had no papers to read first. My local paper has stopped printing on Saturday, and they are who delivers the Times, so starting this week I get no Saturday Times (well, they're supposed to deliver it Sunday, when I already get too much paper to read, but they probably won't). Local paper, now owned by USA Today, I guess, has all kinds of tricks to try to stay afloat. They are down to 4 or 5 reporters; I can get announcements of concerts or other local events printed if and only if I write them entirely in the style of the paper, which prompts them to cut and paste, and give as a byline 'USA Today staff'. I should be on salary, but I am not. And they have started sending 'magazines' produced by USA Today, with no local content, and charging us for them (unless we opt out) by reducing our subscription period by half. Bait and switch. Very annoying.

George 9:11 AM  

I don't know what Z's comment is supposed to mean, puzzlehoarder, but "still and sparkling" traditionally apply to water, not wine, and "still or sparkling?" is the first "multiple choice" question you'll hear in many American fine dining places.

This puzzle was absolutely delightful, wow. Not much to add there, so I will try to add value elsewhere:

1. Regarding "Cone of Silence" -- I'm 36 years old, think of "cone of silence" as a generic colloquial phrase, used when repeating gossip that is not to be repeated (ha), and had no notion of its origins, and have never seen an episode of Get Smart.

2. Regarding Cream of the Crop, a short aside:

Even those of us who are not into professional wrestling might be able to, I think, muster up some admiration for the showmanship of the "promo video", in which a wrestler stirs up interest in an upcoming fight by calling out his opponent, denigrating their capabilities while bragging about his own, etc.

Randy Savage was incredibly good at it, and would improvise his lines. "Mean Gene", the interviewer, was the consummate audience surrogate and straight man. There is an apocryphal story that Randy was boasting, prior to taping one promo, about his skills AS A PROMOTER and said that he could make anything into a good promo.

As the story goes, Mean Gene looked around, saw a bowl of coffee creamers on the table, and said "Alright big shot, let's see how you do trying to build a promo around this."

The result is widely considered one of the best wrestling promos of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4lK41SX-Q

kitshef 9:13 AM  

Surely 12A should have read “Fictional device in which to fail to convey secret information”. That was my favorite entry in the grid.

I confidently plopped in thE nE plus ultra off that first "E", which mucked things up for a while.

MOSS MOE MOI MAIM MEDIA MESS MARC MOCK MADEROOM MEG MSG.

Mr. Grumpypants 9:26 AM  

Brian A in SLC: I think Unknown@9:03 has the answer. I've never known my stats to disappear except when I clear cookies in Firefox. I'm not enough an expert to know if different browsers might work differently, however.

Chicago Chica 9:30 AM  

Ok, shape of the grid, people! HOW is this symmetric? Nothing in the east to pair with FORGET ABOUT IT. I won’t!

puzzlehoarder 9:40 AM  

I actually googled that after breakfast and STILL really is a wine term. Is this clue referring water or wine? WWJD?

RooMonster 9:50 AM  

Hey All !
@Brian A in SLC &
@puzzlehoarder
Hand up here for CREAMOFTHECROP, thinking how smart I was getting it off just the CR.

Started out impossible, but starting getting answers here and there, got a decent flow going, then got stymied in East Center. MARC who? (But name was inferrible), with MESS clued as Fix. Someone enlighten me on that, please. (Wanted MEnd forever) ELISIONS I got, recognized from some dark space in the ole brain, but SAPS as clue was also a WOE. Then angstness set in, so VIP also not registering. Dang, hit a DNF there after having everything else correct. I ended up with VIs/MESh/SAsh.

Diagonal symmetry, makes for a funky grid. You have to fold the puz from numbered square 11 in the top row (NE), to square numbered 59 in the bottom row (SW) to get the symmetry. In case you're confused about how it works. Here to help. 😁

A nice ON POINT SatPuz, plus a glowing Rex review. Great start to a Saturday, although thinking about YAK filled dumplings puts an ickness factor in. Har. I'm sure YAK tastes like beef.

yd -2, should'ves 1

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Camilita 9:50 AM  

Does anyone remember going to Cathecism on Saturdays in the 60's? I was traumatized. A nun wrote a big circle on the blackboard. Inside she made small marks and said these are Venial Sins. Then she made a larger mark and said that is a Mortal sin. If you die with any of these marks on your soul, you go straight to hell.
Except she pronounced Venial as VENAL and so did my parents.

Nancy 10:01 AM  

A "keep the faith" puzzle if ever I've done one. The NW was impossible. I didn't know...

*MOSS is green.

*CONE OF SILENCE. Never heard of it. When the OF SILENCE finally came in, seemingly hours later, I wondered if it was TONE OF SILENCE or ZONE OF SILENCE. What I originally wanted for the fictional device, and which fit, btw, was THOUGHT BUBBLE.

Though I didn't write it in, I wanted GASLIGHT instead of PSYCH OUT for "play mind games with".

I saw the final "P" and wanted PRENUP before ICECAP for "contracting sheet". What a depressing clue/answer.

For "unlikely to tip", I wrote in the ST and the Y. I knew it would either be STEADY or STINGY (lol). It turned out to be STURDY, but, hey, no harm, no foul.

YAM before YAK for the dumplings. I should know that? LTD before NOD for "green light".

I started the puzzle all the way down at OWNS at 33D -- which tells you something. I worked my you-know-what off. It doesn't always come easily, but I GET BY. A real struggle and a terrific Saturday.

Teedmn 10:05 AM  

Today was easier for me than yesterday. I started off with MOSS (I saw plenty of moss-covered mountains and lava fields in Iceland) ONES and MOI and splatzed in SO__I for the kealoa SOamI SODOI but then had to depart for greener LEAS, found at TAMALES/ADMIT.

I had a STeaDY STURDY writeover, eND SCENE and a brief tense miscalculation when I tried to give OK'D the NOD at 53D.

Nam Jin Yoon, like many here, I enjoy seeing your name on the top of my page. And I loved the diagonal grid today, though M&A will be missing one of his "jaws of themelessness".

Brooklyn Roasting 10:06 AM  

I loved this puzzle. And Rex’s appreciative review.
Fast and fun

Anonymous 10:07 AM  

Joe D.
Thanks for the link hi libfixes last night.
But man, I think it’s hooey. I like the criticism of it as dog Greek.
The first example, walkathon from walk and the ending of marathon has some appeal— if you don’t know Greek.
But the problem is that the connections become ever more attenuated because there is no real linguistic under
Inning. Sorry, but the final syllables are the same doesn’t cut it.
And the gate “suffix” is a pretty great example. The seminal gate is of course Watergate. But if you apply the lib fix definition to it you’re left with a scandal about water. I’m sure, absolutely certain, that there are plenty of people under say 30 would tell you that in fact watergate ha to be about water for that very reason.
Surely there’s a failure of a device which undermines the origin of the concept it’s attempting to describe.

Anonymous 10:18 AM  

FH
@Brian A: If I close the lid of my laptop (whereupon it goes into sleep mode) and then return, Wordle keeps my stats. If I shut down or reboot my laptop, the World greets me as a new recruit. I keep my results in an Excel file.....crossword results too. How sad.

bocamp 10:22 AM  

Sparkling vs STILL water

Debunking The Myth

"So, does sparkling water cause tooth decay and osteoporosis? In all these cases, the myth is untrue. Sparkling water is the same as still water except that it has added carbon dioxide gas, which gives it the “fizz”. That’s it. The same source, the same purity, the same high quality" (livescience.com)

Sparkling vs. STILL Wine: Decisions! Decisions!

"There are times when even the most avid of wine drinkers face a dilemma when deciding what to drink with that perfect meal or perfectly curated dessert. Sometimes only sparkling wine will be the perfect accompaniment to whatever it is you’re eating. Other times you want the complexities of a good still wine." (The Wandering Oenophile)

@puzzlehoarder 👍 for 0 yd
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Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Peter P 10:31 AM  

@Chicago Chica -- The symmetry in this puzzle is along the northwest to southeast diagonal. FORGETABOUTIT symmetrically pairs with CONEOFSILENCE going across. Pretend you fold the northeast corner down to the southwest corner -- the symmetrical answers will overlap each other. MOSS pairs with PAIM, PROVEIT pairs with DAMASKS, RIGHT pairs with BALOO and so on....

Anonymous 10:31 AM  

What the heck is a curated dessert?

burtonkd 10:31 AM  

Terrific puzzle with lots of vague clues leading to plausible wrong answers.

My momo was temporarily filled with elK, since I got onto NIKOLA first. My steamed dish was Paellas before tamales.

I hadn't read that Shakepeare sonnet in its entirety since high school, and it was actually shocking. Love the diss track description, @Z.

@Roomonster - were you joking about the symmetry? It goes from top left to the G of MSG in the bottom right...

Anonymous 10:37 AM  

I’m going to TELL ON Mike to Robyn Weintraub…

GILL I. 10:39 AM  

Anton Ego has finally found his perfect ratatouille . I, too, tasted it...It was the best stew served this year. Definitely a Saturday night special.
I remember doing Nam puzzles in the past. I particularly remember him because of his exotic name and his ability to get me motivated to try every single herb, sauce; every single ingredient and savor the morsels dripping from my mouth. He does that...yes he does. Fill my pantry with delight.
Where do I start?
Usually I will stare for many moments just to find something easy. I was looking for some sugar and I found my PAPI at 51A. PEST had to be correct and PAPI came next. I love that word. I called my dad PAPI and I now call my husband PAPI.
I thought I could finish that section but instead, I went back up to the top of my pantry looking for my special spice. MOI/MOSS it was. SO DO I took me on a FLIGHT of righteous dignity. I was happy for myself. The ingredients were folding into deliciousness.
I first had COdE OF SILENCE. But I knew OdES couldn't be a low dice roll. Erase, erase...stare... Oh, of course it's CONE.
And so it went. I had to put this down and walk away several times. I checked the salt level...I checked the heat in the sauce....little by little things came to fruition.
Because I never lie...I had to call my friend, Mr. G and ask about DALLOWAY and MARC. He told me they were doing fine and to just cover them up in a warm blanket at 37 and 47.
I had a DNF at the Tesla crossing. NIKOLA wasn't amused. I had YAM filling the momo.
My pantry runneth over.


Unknown 10:42 AM  

Great fun today! And thanks for the music video of Mad World. Made my day!
Now I think I’ll go make some yak dumplings 😜

jae 10:45 AM  

Easy-medium. Just delightful. Any puzzle with CONE OF SILENCE is a winner for me. Currently I’m hoping someone comes up with a CONE OF Serenity. Liked it a bunch or what @Rex said!

Shackfu 10:46 AM  

Always thought it was End Scene, not ANDSCENE. Learned something new. Excellent but hard puzzle. 1 hour and 14 minutes.

jazzmanchgo 10:50 AM  

Shouldn't 58-across be END SCENE? Who begins a command to wrap things up with the word "AND"??

Wordler 10:54 AM  

@Z. I would say the PPP is BELOW average.



Wordle 259 3/6

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Happy Wordler here. More birdies than pars and more pars than bogies with just one double bogie. Haven't seen an ace or an eagle.

Anonymous 10:54 AM  

Rex,
Merriam-Webster ain’t a great dictionary. But their catechesis is downright wrong.
Note their sentence “Venial sins, on the other hand, are pardonable...”
The only implication to draw from that sentence is that other sins are not pardonable. And that is false.
The proper comparison when discussing sin is the distinction between venial and mortal sin.
Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God’s law. It is a deadly sin ( sin unto death).
Venial sin allows charity to subsist thought it wounds and offends it. It is, by definition, a sin not unto death.
You may ask if mortal sin is unto death how can you ever overcome it? The answer of course, is grace. Mortal sins are pardoned all the time via the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Joseph Michael 11:00 AM  

What Rex said. 👍

The Joker 11:04 AM  

Whenever I can't decide between sparking and still I have beer (craft, of course).

Nick 11:04 AM  

Had to go all the way to MEG Ryan to get a toehold, and solved upward. Felt the same pleasure @Rex rhapsodized about. Love themeless puzzles and this one was great. A real pleasure to be able to solve my way out of challenging corners. A deeply satisfying Saturday.

mathgent 11:11 AM  

I watched Get Smart occasionally but didn't know CONEOFSILENCE. There's one scene from the show that I remember very well though. Smart is defending a young woman accused of murder. She is sitting in the witness chair wearing a short skirt. Smart says, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I ask you. Are these the legs of a homicidal maniac?"

I agree, very good puzzle.

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My first word gave me two greens and a yellow. But that only narrowed the possibilities for an eagle down to 14 possibilities. I was lucky that my second word gave me the fourth letter and I got birdie.
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We saw the documentary Lucy and Desi on Amazon Prime last night. Very well done.


Moshermind 11:15 AM  

Water choice … heard a lot on British Tv shows.

sixtyni yogini 11:35 AM  

Good one! And 🦖🎯🦖

(And love me many a momo! Always thought they were Tibetan … )

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Anonymous 11:45 AM  

"Chief, I demand we use the Cone of Silence!"
"Oh, no, Max..."

Made me laugh out loud. A great old TV show from the minds of Mel Brooks and Buck Henry. Tough puzzle, mostly due to the long stack on tome and generally not many places to get my hooks in. Great clues, as well. Really nice Saturday.

Anonymous 11:52 AM  

Deutsche Demokratische Republik

beverly c 11:54 AM  

Little toe holds at first with MOSS MOI ONES TAMALES LOVEPOEM SAGGY DAMASK KIMONO BALOO then it all started to fall into place. Exhilarating and a pleasure to complete. I also enjoyed Rex’s remarks. I didn’t know HOYA, and I thought Halter was something to do with horses or clothing or a stutter. SENTRY was fun to get, (face palm) especially since it finally confirmed MOSS.
Yay! for FRIENDLY BANTER and CONE OF SILENCE.

Nancy 11:56 AM  

Oh, @Teedmn, 4D is so much worse than a mere kealoa! It's a double kealoa:

SO DO I
SO AM I
AS DO I
AS AM I

Because that mysterious greenery in Iceland certainly could have ended in an "A".

BTW, did anyone notice how many fauna and fauna-related clues there are? The Iceland greenery. "Costa to a botanist" which equals RIB. (To which my only comment is "It does???") And the animal that climbs cactuses. I'm wondering if Nam Jin Yoon majored in Botany by any chance? Or at least minored in it.

Newboy 11:57 AM  

Any day when @Lewis, Rex himself and Jeff agree that the grid works is worthy of a mark on the calendar. As OFL points out, “There's a sense of play and humor in the (Nam Jin Yoon) grids that is unmistakable and irresistible.” Rarely does the FRIENDLY BANTER engender the warm AURAS I feel after reading the commentariat above. Glad to see that the CONE OF SILENCE spans generations. Only the PAPI/MARC dampened my enthusiasm—clearly time to get back to do DUO Español that has slipped further than my Covid-19 😷

other david 11:59 AM  

Interesting. I expected a rant from Rex on the use of a foreign language phrase without its diacriticals. Maybe that just bugs him with Spanish? Or maybe it's different rules for different constructors, I don't know...

Of course, I had the much more common "cream of the crop" there until I ran across Mrs Dalloway. Then I was kind of stuck because "creme de la creme" did not enter my mind at all until I finally cleared it of card games and got "arms" (nice clue on that one). Obviously I was jumping all around to solve this.

Cakes tortes cookies biscuits for sure. Tarts? Not so much in the competitions.

Pretty much agree; nice snappy puzzle.

egsforbreakfast 12:02 PM  

Like @Gill I, I find myself wanting to make a meal of this puzzle.

I’ll start with some STURDY YAK momo, and STILL HHO with a bit of an ICECAP. For my ENTREE, I’ll go with STEWED TAMALES smothered in CREMEDELACREME (no MSG, please). For dessert, the IGUANA RIB TART and a glass of aNIKOLA you’ve got on hand. As for the check, I ADMIT I’ve got only a few ONES, so FORGETABOUTIT.

Loved the puzzle. Thanks, NamJin Yoon.

Masked and Anonymous 12:12 PM  

fave moo-cow eazy-E SatPuz clue: {Ryan of "You've Got Mail"} = MEG. Thereby gettin staff weeject pick, since there ain't no official moo-cow award for SatPuzs.

M&A would-coulda-shoulda started in the SE with MEG, like @Nick (11:04AM) did. Instead, M&A started sprayin precious nanoseconds all over tarnation, by stubbornly startin in the NW and NE, where all the long ball answers were criss-crossin one another like playful giant whale sentries.

fave boo-hoo B-hard SatPuz clue [new award category]: {It's booked before getting caught} = FLIGHT. All M&A can say is "thank goodness for HOYA", or I'd still be scratchin a deep hole in my head, over FLIGHT.

Solo Jaw of Themelesness, due to that there left-leanin puzgrid symmetry. I agree with @RP, that the Jin Yoon dude does great constructioneerin work, but … sheesh, that one Jaw looked so forlornly lonely. AOC would probably award a bonus point, on account of the left-leanin symmetry, tho.

Thanx for what was a real challenge for m&e, Nam Jin Yoon. Explained why our neighbor's dog yakked up them leftover momos, tho. So, learned some new stuff -- always a plus.

Masked & Anonymo3Us

Cavitation 12:12 PM  

@Anon 10:54 Once again, words have meanings outside of the very restrictive interpretation of the RC Church. One is not wrong in using them that way.

Z 12:17 PM  

Auto-corrupt is constantly changing “were” to “we’re,” but I think the deleted “your” for “you’re” error was just me not paying attention.

Anyway, I’m not familiar with “STILL” wine or water, but on a calm day a STILL lake doesn’t sparkle. I suspect the clue was going for the wine/water meaning, though.

@Wordler - I’d say the PPP was above average while the amount of PPP was low average to maybe below average, and I think most of us agree that having a below average amount of PPP is also above average.

@Anon/FH - I think what you are describing means your computer is set to clear cookies when you shutdown, probably as a security feature.

@jazzmanchgo - Clearly you are under the mistaken impression that the English language makes sense.
Speaking of which - @Anon 10:07 - No. You’re describing the etymological fallacy. You don’t have to know anything about Milhous or DC real estate to know that the -gate suffix means we’re discussing a scandal.

puzzlehoarder 12:24 PM  

I'll make a note of that on my next trip to Italy.

Anonymous 12:25 PM  

Z
So what was the watergate scandal about if gate means scandal?

Anonymous 12:25 PM  

@OFL:
off the "Y," I got TYRANNY (21D: Rule to take exception to)

Yeah well, I got dYnAstY,
The Wolf person was JannaWAY
Which led to jAqArdS, which is sorta (phonetically) correct
"The Jacquard machine (French: [ʒakaʁ]) is a device fitted to a loom that simplifies the process of manufacturing textiles with such complex patterns as brocade, damask and matelassé."
the wiki

And it was DNF from there.

Anonymous 12:27 PM  

Cavitation,
Are you saying that M-W is correct? That venial sins are pardonable but other sins aren’t?
Can you direct me a source to support that position?

Z 12:31 PM  

@other david - I don’t remember where Rex lands on the issue, but the only diacritic anyone ever complains about is Ñ and then only when the clue is for AÑO. Rather than seeing the humor in “asshole” appearing repeatedly in the puzzle people insist on getting their bloomers in a bunch while blithely ignoring that we routinely ignore every other foreign language diacritical mark. Lots of people I normally agree with demand that we get AN O clues or that the year be Portuguese and I agree only because I am so over reading their plaints.

jberg 12:32 PM  

I agree that this was an exceptionally good puzzle. My chief trouble was that, although very familiar with the name HOYA for Georgetown U. athletes, my brain got the wires crossed with a TV announcer and filled in HOdA, so I had to get TYRANNY from the other crosses, which took some time.

A couple of nits, though. First, if you put TAU into your equation to represent time, it's because time is a variable, not a constant, at least IRL. I suppose you could imagine a situation where it was a constant, viz. "at tau = 0 GMT, ..." More seriously, as @pmdm points out, the order "AND ... SCENE" is used to start shooting, not end it (which is ordered by "cut!" perhaps followed by "that's a wrap."

And while the answer is obvious, I don't think sumo wrestlers wear KIMONOs. They enter the ring wearing a rope wound around their waste and a loincloth. Off hours lower-ranking ones wear yukatas (kind of like a bathrobe), while the top wrestlers get more elaborate robes -- but I don't think kimonos are involved. My knowledge is limited, based on going to one tournament and subsequent reading, but I'm fairly sure of it.

Anonymous 12:34 PM  

@bocamp:

any carbonated water promotes tooth decay, although saying 'causes' is a bit harsh. you get carbonic acid from the CO2, and acid eats your enamel.

old timer 12:35 PM  

I also had to start at the bottom, but putting in "mend" for MESS slowed me down even there. In fact, I ended up with a DNF because I never went back to figure out AND SCENE after guessing "Mary" for MARC. And I'll just assume BALOO is RIGHT -- I wanted "baboo" but the crosses forced BALOO on me. To me, the only right answer, if it fit, would be Ballou (Wally) the classic Bob and Ray reporter.

I spent over a week in Chile once, based in Santiago, then Puerto Montt, and the incredibly beautiful Isla Grande de Chiloe -- which is itself worth the FLIGHT to Santiago. Pablo Neruda is their national hero. His three houses are well preserved, and the one in Valparaiso is in itself a good reason to go to Valpo. There are many reasons to visit the one in Santiago, too, and if I were to move to Chile, I probably would live in the Providencia sector of the capital. The whole city is extremely walkable, and you could do quite well without a car.

I did know Mrs. DALLOWAY. A book I have, but have never had the patience to finish. To me, Virginia Woolf is the best literary critic ever, but her other work fails to have real interest.

mathgent 12:42 PM  

My favorite comments this morning.

J. Brodie (8:16)
Anonymous (11:52)

bocamp 1:31 PM  

@Anonymous (12:34 PM)

Point taken; I'm a STILL water guy, myself. :)
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Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Anon 12:27 1:47 PM  

Yes, putting mayonnaise on a hamburger is an unpardonable sin.

Cavitation. 1:54 PM  

@Anon 12:27 - BTW, if you're going to challenge people to contests of logic, you might want to brush up, maybe just a tad. Saying all venial sins are pardonable does not imply anything the pardonability of non venial sins. Nothing at all in any consistent logical system.

But keep on saying I said so! I said so! That's a logical argument, no?

Smith 1:58 PM  

Loved it! Much faster than yd.

Got CONEOFSILENCE off the ON of MOI and ONES. Definitely too much Get Smart as a kid, but in my defense my parents withstood the onslaught of the book tube waaay longer than any other family, so my brothers and I had to make up for lost time when they finally caved (in the fall of 1968, after my mother discovered - at the bus stop - that my brothers were unable to converse with their peers because they didn't watch Batman. Too bad for me, the oldest, stuck in a girls' school where I, um, couldn't converse with my peers because I read non-stop and they did not. AND SCENE).

Really enjoyed the mis-directs!

Cavitation 2:01 PM  

@Mods - sorry for the multiplicity of posts, my attention span is measured in the milliseconds, and I forget things.

@Anon 12:25 BTW, Have you apologized to The Buddha yet? To the Coptic Christians?, you know, for beating out Benedict to creating monasteries by 2000 and 1300 years respectively and your dismissing that fact? You do know pride is a mortal sin, no?

Anoa Bob 2:14 PM  

I enthusiastically join all yous who rated this a top FLIGHT puzzle even though I didn't finish it in the DAL__WAY, BAL_O, STIL_ area.

I also enjoyed the discussion of the difference between VENAL and VENIAL by examining their Classical Latin roots. Now if only we could just do the same for rebus meaning "of or with things" and its connection to res meaning "thing". Yeah, I know I should FORGET ABOUT IT. Or maybe just learn to be STOIC rather than STEWED. Nah, probably not going to happen.

Since they grow mainly in tropical zones, especially in Africa, I knew the Nepalese dumpling had to have something other than YAM as an ingredient. I was doing a YA_ alphabet run when NIKOLA Tesla filled in and showed it was YAK. Had a Simpsonesque "D'oh! I should have known that!" moment there.

YAK has appeared in a NYTXW grid 70 times in the Shortz era and today is the first time it got a Nepalese momo ingredient clue. This is just one of many finely crafted ENTREEs in this exemplary puzzle.

albatross shell 2:16 PM  

Wonderfully lopsided diagonal symmetry with 4 neatly varied appealing long symmetrical answers. Nicely varied misdirections (double meanings, simple and subtle, single meanings simpler than expected) as well as the varied and low total PPP.

Started out hard. Did a third or so last night and got bogged down. This morning I treated myself to a one word reveal, SENTRY. And bam! Off to the races. Never did so much of a Saturday so fast. FRIENDLYBANTER CREMEDELACREME and then all the rest that was not even connected to those words went in at a hard Wednesday or not too hard Thursday rate. Too bad I was blind to SENTRY.

On Thursday we had dehydrated words. Today a backwards DE-WETS. That's a special for @Lewis because he may be the only one to appreciate it besides me. I hope he does cause he gives us so much joy here.

Watergate became synonymous with the scandal of the presidential ordered break-in and (its cover-up) that happened there. Brazil-gate Iran-gate nanny-gate travel-gate etc. are all about scandals that happened in those places or concerning those things even though Brazil Iran the nannies the travel were not the actually corrupt just like the water wasn't. So if Watergate had happened later it would have been watergate-gate obviously.

Venial sins are easily forgiven.

Venal sins are sins of corruption of the human soul so bad you have to bribe the Catholic Church for forgiveness. In common English they are legal crimes misdeeds or sins involving bribery and usually filthy lucre.

Just me free-wheeling it.

bookmark 2:30 PM  

I reread To the Lighthouse every year. Mrs. Dalloway is my second favorite VW novel.
Her prose is mesmerizing.

Anonymous 2:45 PM  

Mods,
alabtross shell may think he’s being funny, but his cracks about bribery and the Church are deeply offensive. Perhaps of more interest, they’re also wrong. The Church doesn’t forgive sin, Christ does. That’s the point of the Sacrament of Reconciliation, the priest acting in persona Christi.
Forgiveness and grace come from Christ. And Christ alone. There’s no bribery. There’s not even any money involved at all, so I’m at a loss as to where his smear even comes from.
IF people are going to mock, shouldn’t they at least be held to some standard of understanding of what they’re mocking? Otherwise it’s just prejudice.

JC66 2:47 PM  

@Albie

On Thursday, I was the one who suggested DEHYDRATE be used as the revealer to allow a 15 X 15 grid.

Wordle 259 4/6

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Eniale 2:52 PM  

How can one enjoy a puz and only manage 2/3 of it? Because that 2/3 gave such pleasure! I didn't pay enough attention while my kids were watching "Get Smart."

yd pg -2, 2 should'ves (like that extra detail, @rooMonster!

pg-5 so far

hotbetterthancold 2:59 PM  

My wordle stats have been gone since the transition. Nothing I do brings them back. Ugh.

Z 3:08 PM  

@Smith - Why would your parents keep you away from the book tube (asks the guy he deleted his own typo)?

@Anoa Bob - Please consider how the concept of “etymological fallacy” applies to your “rebus” contention and why it doesn’t apply to the “venal v venial” discussion.

@albatross shell 2:16 paragraph 4 - I almost wrote something similar and then decided not to. It is almost as if -gate is a a productive bound morpheme affix created by rebracketing and back-formation… Oh wait, that’s exactly what it is. I saw that quip, which would be pretty funny if said by Emo Phillips or George Carlin, and decided that if they were serious pointing out their error was pointless and if they were joking they violated Poe’s Law by not including a 😉, clearly a venial sin.

Anyone looking for some light reading (he says with tongue in cheek) give this a try.

Lewis 3:14 PM  

@hotbetterthancold -- Do you use Safari? I do, and Wordle doesn't load there. I contacted the NYT tech dept. and they said it IS an issue, and that they're working on it. To get to Wordle, I go to Chrome, where it works perfectly.

Anonymous 3:14 PM  

Ok, once more (some days since the last) with feeling.

I grew up Episcopalian, back when that meant RC in English, amongst a place inundated with RC. Some of my friends were RC (my best were Jewish, for unrelated reasons), and around Jr. HS or HS, they introduced me to the advantage of RC, "sin all week, get cleared on Sunday. rinse. repeat."

Some in these comments have asserted that it really isn't the Priest who erases the sins, but Christ. But, of course, those RC sinners never met Him. Nor did the Priest. Some of both claim to have 'contact' with one or more of the Trinity at one time or another. Either way, the RC sinner is given his/her pass by the Priest. I've never been in a RC confessional, but from what I understand, the session at/near its end the Priest says something like, "go and sin no more". That last part appears to be regularly ignored.

(apparently still so: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cclergy/documents/rc_con_cclergy_doc_24111998_pandc_en.html )

East Coaster 3:21 PM  

I personally don’t believe in Zeus (or any other deity that is most likely a figment of someone’s imagination) so I always enjoy the religious discussions as an impartial observer. I’m really intrigued that someone feels that if someone puts mayonnaise on a hamburger bun, someone else believes that they have sinned. Religious people frequently don’t play well with others is my observation, which seems contrary to the whole point. But then again, I have never been in a position to start a holy war or molest an alter boy, nor do I want to be.

Z 3:25 PM  

Sirs, this is an Arby’s.

JC66 3:26 PM  

@Lewis

I had then same problem accessing WORDLE on Safari and it was solved by going to Preferences/Privacy and clearing all cookies by clicking "Manage Website Data" and choosing "Remove All." This will allow you to solve WORDLE in Safari, but your history will be lost.

Anonymous 4:16 PM  

@East Coaster:
Religious people frequently don’t play well with others is my observation

I don't know about you, but I'd wager any amount of moolah that, as motivation for war, the top two contenders are natural resources and religion. Often both; didn't my very White ancestors justify killing off the un-Christian savages who'd been living here for about 10,000 years just because they were? Boy, did we get some resources. Enough to make materiel for two World Wars; which 'we' won because of the materiel made from those resources. Seems to me, about the same wherever God fearing White people go. Is there a confessional big enough for that?

okanaganer 4:21 PM  

Nice hard puzzle! I saw ------ Teng and was so pleased; I am a huge fan of Vienna Teng. Although she's American, so that part of the clue is wrong. Oh no, wait... damn.

STABLE, then STINGY (think restaurant tips), finally STURDY. Also CREAM OF THE CROP for a short while.

[Spelling Bee: yd 2:10 to pg, then 0. td 3:24 to pg (bocamp you beat me by 14 seconds!). Will try for QB later as it's a gorgeous sunny day.]

Hartley70 4:23 PM  

Wowza this was a struggle! I had to call a time-out this morning so I could shower and get on with my day, but my return this afternoon was well worth the effort. Only DALLOWAY was a gimme so I started there and moved down. I spent too much time on the autos before NIKOLA. For me, nothing could be better than ANDSCENE. FRIENDLYBANTER was great but I’d guessed we weren’t dealing with hypodermics. ANDSCENE just killed me. I too went for the CREAM before finally seeing we were speaking French. Except for MEG, the people were outside my ken. I loved it all and I’m glad I stopped by even though it’s late because I’m thrilled to find Rex is finally satisfied!

Z 4:28 PM  

This was fine, but “nanny” and its three N’s yesterday felt like a venial sin.

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Now if we can only figure out a way to make Wordle religious… Wordatholicism? Bnai Wordle? Wiccordle? Zoroastrordlism?

Joe Dipinto 4:59 PM  

I wrote some more Dordle poems. Want to read them? I didn't think so. Here they are:

Biota serum reign→ weird, wetly

Sitar stole stump,
Stuck stuff.
Stunt funny!

Trope snafu > Softy Truck

Paler sedan shade:
Think "thong"!

Turbo ulcer grump
flu
----me... drunk

Peach lingo: rusty
Quell? Build.

Freak clout, while rheum piled


In other news...My first guess in Globle today was yellow (i.e. the furthest possible distance away from the Secret Country). My second guess was...The Secret Country! How amazing is that?!

CDilly52 6:38 PM  

Ditto kn my joy at seeing the “Get Smart” reference. Loved that silly show.

CDilly52 6:49 PM  

Wonderful Saturday! @Frantic’s “Impossible until it’s not” sums up my experience perfectly. Like @Rex, my first gimme was HOYA. I had dreadful time getting started, and finally hit my stride at. HIYA, STURDY, TAMALES NIKOLA TYRANNY. From there, I finished the SE and worked the bottom over to the NW. For some reason, entering KIMONO made me recall CONE OF SILENCE, so I bounced back up to finish with my clue of the week, “Needle exchange.” That is just as good as it gets. I really welcomed the Saturday level challenge. Just as I expected with a Nam Jin Yoon puzzle. Superb.

Anonymous 7:51 PM  

Anonymous 4:16,
I’m inclined to take that wager.
Post your deets. I’ll be in touch.

Anonymous 8:20 PM  

@7:51

well... you gots to bet on some alternative, ya know. even Putin is after the wheat fields of Ukraine.

Deb Sweeney 11:15 AM  

Awesome puzzle. The one big holdup for me was 29A where I had ST_ _ _ Y and put "stingy" for "unlikely to tip" instead of "sturdy." Loved all the phrases.

Bob Mills 6:47 PM  

If we renk puzzles based on fairness, this was the least fair of all.

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sdcheezhd 11:58 PM  

Loved CONEOFSILENCE. Also a stingy not STURDY person.

Burma Shave 3:14 AM  

LOVEPOEM FARCE

ON FRIENDLYBANTER IGETBY,
ONPOINT, but I STILL MOCK them.
Their CONEOFSILENCE just ain't RIGHT,
haven't they SCENE CREMEDELACREME?

--- NIKOLI DALLOWAY

thefogman 2:11 PM  

Very challenging but very good (and fair). Even M̶i̶k̶e̶y̶ Rex liked it.

EightAndEight 5:19 PM  

I watched the linked YouTube of Teresa Teng, with automatic captions on (set as my default). The resulting captions were hilarious, as the computer tried to make English sense of the Chinese syllables.

spacecraft 8:13 PM  

@jberg: Yeah, I too always tie my waste with a rope. Sometimes it oozes out, though.

This was a fun, wildly asymmetrical Saturday puzzle with catchy phrases, puckish cluing--and no naticks! DOD Meg led me in by the back door, and despite some hesitation while my brain was catching up, I finished in reasonable time. In short, medium. Mr. Nam is welcome at the space station any time. Eagle.

Unknown 3:36 PM  

Someone asked about how you get 46A MESS from FIX. It took me a while too, but finally got it, as in "what a fine FIX you've gotten me in now!

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