Rigorous email management system / MON 3-21-22 / Spearlike weapons of medieval times / Jordanian landmark described as a rose-red city half as old as time / Pumpkin seed by another name
Monday, March 21, 2022
Constructor: John Ewbank and Jeff Chen
Relative difficulty: Medium
Theme answers:
- EXPANDED ROLE (20A: Greater responsibility, often as part of a promotion) (singer = LORDE)
- PICKING NITS (26A: Pointing out minuscule annoyances) (singer = STING)
- KHLOÉ KARDASHIAN (38A: Reality star sister of Kim and Kourtney) (singer = DRAKE)
- CHISELED ABS (46A: Goal of some core workouts) (singer = ADELE)
Petra (Arabic: ٱلْبَتْرَاء, romanized: Al-Batrāʾ; Ancient Greek: Πέτρα, "Rock"), originally known to its inhabitants as Raqmu or Raqēmō is a historic and archaeological city in southern Jordan. It is adjacent to the mountain of Jabal Al-Madbah, in a basin surrounded by mountains forming the eastern flank of the Arabah valley running from the Dead Sea to the Gulf of Aqaba. The area around Petra has been inhabited from as early as 7000 BC, and the Nabataeans might have settled in what would become the capital city of their kingdom as early as the 4th century BC. Archaeological work has only discovered evidence of Nabataean presence dating back to the second century BC, by which time Petra had become their capital. The Nabataeans were nomadic Arabs who invested in Petra's proximity to the incense trade routes by establishing it as a major regional trading hub.
The trading business gained the Nabataeans considerable revenue and Petra became the focus of their wealth. The Nabataeans were accustomed to living in the barren deserts, unlike their enemies, and were able to repel attacks by taking advantage of the area's mountainous terrain. They were particularly skillful in harvesting rainwater, agriculture and stone carving. Petra flourished in the 1st century AD, when its famous Al-Khazneh structure – believed to be the mausoleum of Nabataean king Aretas IV – was constructed, and its population peaked at an estimated 20,000 inhabitants. (wikipedia)
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My ABS were SHREDDED before they were CHISELED, so that cost me a lot of time (well, a "lot" relative to a Monday ... maybe 20 seconds or so). The very idea of a NO-CARB diet remains both idiotic and impossible (you cannot live without carbs, please take NO-CARB out of your damed wordlist, it's a lie) (25D: Like diets that cut out bread and pasta). Am never going to be a fan of Tonto references (for reasons I've been over many times), so "KEMO Sabe" (54D: ___ Sabe (the Lone Ranger, to Tonto)) was a grating evocation of bygone stereotypes, but I guess that's the price I gotta pay for INBOX ZERO (seriously, it's hard to make that little southern section much better unless you do a pretty substantial tear-down down there).The fill overall on this one is pretty tepid (because of all the short stuff), but it's passable. But in the end, for a music-centered theme, this one just didn't have a lot of bounce.
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127 comments:
What's the over/under on the number of comments today that qualify as 26A, PICKING NITS?
Medium. I was iffy on spelling KARDASHIAN so I needed extra crosses. Smooth and clever, a fine Monday, liked it.
@bocamp - Croce’s Freestyle #693 is a kinder gentler Croce, although I did need to consult la femme on a foreign language clue. This one did not take hours. Good luck!
AMIS x URIS has strong Natick energy
Welcome back, Rex!
SPOKANE LESBIANS har! Does anyone actually use that word anymore?
I solved by looking at only the down clues; but finished by accidentally cheating. How does one accidentally cheat? Well in Across Lite, if I right-click on the current square, it switches to the other direction. I had LO CARB for 23 down, and no clue for the pumpkin seed, which gave me ES-L for 23 across. Say what? On the mystery square, accident happened and I saw the 23 across clue. Hello ESPN crossing NO CARB!
Annnywayyy... again I have to say how much I hate KPH. Why oh why does this stupid abbrev keep appearing? No countries that actually use kilometers use this abbrev. If you don't believe me, try googling images for "kph speed sign". We all use "km/h" (which means KMH would be ok). Please please stop this KPH garbage!!
[Spelling Bee: Sun 3:35 to pg, and QB about 10 min. later.]
I really don't have high expectations for early week puzzles.
Nothing here inspires me to change that M.O., but I didn't dislike the theme.
I'll borrow @Zed's "mehty shrug" to describe my experience.
The neighbors RAMBO TEAGARDEN evoke some pretty strange imagery involving ham hands and tiny seeds.
Never forget to be grateful you can't see inside my head.
🧠.5
🎉🎉.5
A minor note and a complaint. There is only one cello in a string quartet - so the only correct answer to string quartet instruments in principle would be violins. (Only one viola too). And just like the blog writer over the last couple of days somewhat mysteriously didn't like "old white guy" answers I, similarly, cavil at anything to do with the Kardashians. But I guess it fit.
Well, I started to leave a comment, but ended up somewhere I didn’t intend. Must have hit a key that I shouldn’t have. Anyhoo, welcome back Rex, I missed you. The ladies were great, but the last two days were not fun with your guest host. Please don’t invite him back.
Fun, easy Monday. Didn’t know LORDE, but I’m not too big in the music scene. Every else was known. Will Google and get educated.
Which other word(s) would you use? “Washington city near Idaho border”?
I’m not hip enough to be familiar with LORDE, so I kinda liked furrowing my brow at EDROL and wondering where the heck this was headed. The reveal is perfect.
The time-suck element for me, though, was nitpicking being reincarnated as PICKING NITS. I loved this. Stared out the window imagining saying stuff like proofing waters, sitting babies, changing shorts, and checking spots. I actually performed this last one yesterday as I had a trial-run spray tan for my son’s wedding in one month and I’m quite vain enough to want to look just a tad sun-kissed in my rehearsal dinner dress. Lessons learned: (1)barrier cream for feet and hands because, honestly, my feet thumb sides are scary-dark and weird looking. (2) Really use those baby wipes on your face before exiting the chamber because you Will have little black spots everywhere that a 61-year-old cannot see without reading glasses, but your lunch companion certainly can.
DARN – Mom said DURN yesterday and I thought about that for like an hour. Wondered why I never say that. (This, as she had on her wedding ceremony ensemble for like the 8th time and deciding the shoes just wouldn’t work. She’s exhausting me with her fretting. Jewelry, shoes, hose, hair. . . and I’m thinking Mom, you’re 87 and will be forgiven anything but I get that this is important to you and I’m a horrible daughter for wanting to be excused from the constant wardrobe deliberations but again I see another tedious trip to Belk to look for yet another pair of shoes but how dare I roll my eyes when I just got a f*&^ing spray tan and am currently eating, I swear, NO CARBs.
Happy to report that even at my alternative school, DORKY SORTS are alive and well. I always, always have a dry-erase marker in my hand and will sometimes approach a student with it, hold it up to their mouth and say, Could you repeat that in the microphone so everyone can hear? And darned if most of them will cheerfully lean in and speak into the marker. That’s pretty DORKY imo.
My avatar is another singer who’s famous enough to go by one name. I knew nothing of Tupac save that thought he was a scary gangster groundbreaker. Rather than force Poe’s “A Dream within a Dream” on my students (as dictated by the district), I went with “Dear Mama” and “Keep Ya Head Up.” Jeez Louise, I love these songs. I bought his book of poetry, and we just finished “The Rose that Grew from Concrete.” Look. Maybe his stuff is considered drivel, I dunno, but I do know that it has opened up a whole world to me (my students’ world), and Tupac (“Pac” as we in the business call him) will flat engage the heck out of a class. Last week, P. H. and I got into a heated argument about a line from "Keep Ya Head Up" - It's hard to be legit and still pay your rent, heated enough that a dean and a BMT poked their heads in to make sure I didn’t need back-up. And get this – I was saying I understood while P. H. was saying that he didn’t buy it. The thrill was that P. H. is usually either trying to sleep or throwing things or knocking on the wall at the adjoining classroom. (Snort. P.H. with his ankle monitor was angrily saying that you don’t have to break the law to “pay the rent.” )
I’ve asked this here before, but no one has contacted me: Dear anthropologist or sociologist or whateverist – could you please tell me why when we human mammals BARE our teeth at another human (smile), the message is so opposite from when, say, a dog mammal BAREs its teeth at another dog? Email me – nerolhtims @ gmail. Thanks, man.
Terrific concept and theme, and I love (after learning from the constructors’ notes) that the theme wasn’t dreamed up all at once, but rather it bounced out after brainstorming a more-vague concept. I’ve made several puzzles with Jeff, and all of our themes came about the same way, where I came in with an idea, then we bounced it around, and after some random jagged twists and turns, something completely different (and better) resulted.
Here Jeff found the specific theme as he sifted through a cloud of phrases spit out by his computer and John came up with the terrific reveal. A true J&J collaboration. Bravo, guys, and thank you for a lovely start to the week.
Speaking of deserving a bravo… Jim Horne points out at XwordInfo that Jeff has now had in the NYT at least eight puzzles published for EACH day of the week – an amazing accomplishment.
As clued, AMIS/URIS didn’t feel very Monday. Other than that, not many NITS to PICK here.
My five favorite clues from last week
(in order of appearance):
1. It's mined, all mined! (3)
2. Popular site for holiday gift orders (6)(3)
3. Schoolmaster for the the classroom, e.g. (7)
4. Conflict taking a couple of seconds? (4)
5. Book with a notable world premiere? (7)
ORE
SANTA'S LAP
ANAGRAM
DUEL
GENESIS
One of those days where basically every first guess was right. Though as always I guessed wrong on GReY/GRAY, at first.
Easy enough that I did not see the clue nor answer for PICKING NITS until after the puzzle was done. When I did see it, though, I wondered if we would see it come to life from Rex on the NO CARB entry. Sure enough...
Puzzle was nice enough to avoid the ESPOSA/ESPOSo dilemma; why not do the same for ESTO/ESTe/ESTa?
I thought we had an agreement about czar vs tsar. Jim
@Rex. You had me at Spokane Lesbians.
Hard to believe I missed Rex.
Andres said...
AMIS x URIS has strong Natick energy
Amen, brother. Very much this. This thing was Wednesday at least in places. PEPITA crossing PETRA? That's very Wednesday to me.
I’ve never heard of Amis or Uris, so once I had the rest of the crosses I figured Amos was the most likely name. Then I COULD NOT figure out my mistake! Very frustrating.
Thx John & Jeff, for your backward singers puz! :)
Med+
Would've worked better as a Tues. pour moi.
Nevertheless, a fun adventure.
Liked it! :)
Did the Acrostic from last week; pretty easy and enjoyable, as always. Got the NW corner of yd's Cryptic; will try to finish it today. Thx, again, to Pablo, Joe and Todd for all the encouragement. :)
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yd pg: 12:05 (0 in 21:18) / W: 3*
Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊
I got stuck at URIS/AMIS. Had UR_S and AMO_S, and didn't know either clue. Since those also intersected with a non-English word ESPOSA and the appallingly dated KEMO, felt pretty niche for a Monday.
Neat little theme - I usually don’t go for something as crypticish as this but I can deal. I’m assuming the 5 letter artist was chosen for consistency given the large pool of potential candidates. Not a fan of giving a KARDASHIAN so much real estate. The AMIS x URIS cross is borderline but both well known enough to just fill in. Liked the Get Smart reference.
Enjoyable Monday solve.
Or perhaps use inbox Zero to cross with Juke Box Hero
Welcome back, Rex. Wondering if Geek/Nerd is a kealoa? And @kcal, yes, the cluing for CELLOS is imprecise, for sure.
A fine Monday, although didn't pay much attention to the theme. Of course, the featured singers are big names and not at all back up singers. That felt askance to me, albeit fleetingly.
Puzzle was a good Monday, cute in parts, but the theme did nothing for me, since I’ve heard of just two of those singers. So I got the sense the constructor had fun making it, but the theme did nothing for my solve.
Question regarding yesterday's puzzle: why is NEW the "counterpart of full, in a way" ??? It was 82D. Thanks in advance!
I suspected that we'd have complaints about: Why these names? Check. NOCARB diet. Check. KENO sabe. Check. OFL is back, and his vacation has not altered his core principles. He also raved about INBOXZERO, of which I had never heard. Par for the course.
RICCI right off the bat was a WOE but as it turned out, the only other one was PETRA, where I learned something, which is good.
My extensive Spanish background came in handy once again, as I was able to fill in ESPOSA instantly, as well as LAS Vegas.
Caught the theme early after Lorde and Sting, but I have to say they were no help whatsoever in filling in the remaining answers.
Nice enough Mondecito JE and JC. Several moo cows wandering around, but still Just Enjoyable enough to be a Jolly Crossword. Thanks for the fun.
And now off to get an eyeball injection, which is always worse in the anticipation than the actual experience.
@joaquin,whatever anyone says, I'll take the over.
Has Rex responded to reactions to our last guest commentator on other forums ?
@Z...anybody ? At least he made us glad to have Rex back. Maybe that was the plan ?
@Shirley F- full moon versus NEW moon.
Naticked at URIS/AMIS (had URoS/AMoS) and couldn't find my error after a couple minutes, so gave up and hit "check puzzle" in the app. I chalk that up as a DNF. Even after having my error pointed out I didn't get it on my first shot (I believe I ran all the vowels URuS/AMuS, URaS/AMaS, and UReS/AMES before hitting upon the right combo.) I personally don't think that was fair cross (especially on a Monday), but maybe one of those answers is common knowledge I don't have. I assume so as there aren't too many complaints about it.
Other than that cross, the puzzle was a breezy Monday.
@anonymous (7:30am)
The usual practice - though not a rule and not always followed - is that "TSAR" is used for the Russian ruler while "CZAR" is used for titans of industry or executive branch appointees given special powers to tackle special problems.
But I am still confused over another matter. This past weekend we were instructed in no uncertain terms that "ET" could only and always refer to the extra-terrestrial from the Stephen Spielberg movie, since "ET" is the name given to him/her/it by Elliott, not simply an initialism. Today we see this more generic use.
Is there some suggestion here that the definitive pronouncements made by last weekend's blogger are not infallible, after all.
Just asking for an old white dude friend.
I don't know anything about those Kardashian ladies (they're "famous for being famous", right?) other than the fact that their first names all begin with "K" for some odd reason. This kept me from putting cHLOE in the grid and made me realize that KHLOE, however ridiculous it might look, was probably correct. The backwards singers I ignored since I didn't need 'em. Actually, I'd heard of them all, though I'm not sure I'd recognize a single one of them either by face or by voice. I know ELEDA shrieks and emotes a lot, but then so many of them do these days.
I found this puzzle profoundly unmemorable, but I have no particular NITS.
A warm welcome back to Our Fearless Leader. Let the PICKING NITS begin.*
For the most part very easy as easy puzzles go. However, I did not immediately know PETRA and that one clue seemed a tad out of place for Monday but the crosses were fair. I liked the big-screened RAMBO among the stage acts but a little disappointed that CHER wasn’t worked in there somewhere. I MEAN she’s kinda the original one-named SINGER. But of course only four letters which would be nearly impossible to span a themer. A good effort though and enjoyable. I liked it.
*Agree that for most people it’s a LOW CARB diet.
@Shirley 8:24
Think moon phases 🌕 🌒 🌙
Yes. He may be a bitter, pedantic curmudgeon, but he's OUR bitter, pedantic curmudgeon. (Welcome back, Rex!)
Ugh, Kardashian. Didn't see KEMO.
It's a Monday, not much to say?
Except I knew INBOXZERO because it was an obsession of my last boss at my last retirement job!
Hi, @Rex, hope you are rested. Maybe address your recent guest blogger...
Second consecutive puzzle with two white dudes born in the 1920s crossing each other. This one was even worse than yesterday's with the AM_S / UR_S crossing where AMOS feels more right than AMIS if you don't know either person, which I didn't.
FH
Um, bring back Chris Adams?
If, like myself, you dislike PPP, you probably dislike this puzzle. Normally, I like Chen's tricks. Not today. But I certainly can see why others might like it.
I guess 28D should have read "instruments in string quartets" to make it Monday friendly. But it [barely] can be read as is and be correct.
And one more thing, looking at 47D. Please spare me foreign words. I don't solve crossword puzzles to be taught how to speak in a foreign language. Again, others might like it. But I would rather be spared.
And "Z"'s preferred name is now "Zed". I strongly believe people should be called by the name they prefer. Well, maybe not one like Putin.
Do "Rocky" and "Rambo" constitute yet another kealoa?
Jeff, Jeff, . . . what are you doing to me ? PIKES crossing a KARDASHIAN, and a novelist crossing a dopey Spanish word (AMIS/ESPOSA) on a Monday ? ? ? ET TU Jeff ? Very sad.
@Rex, glad you had a good Spring Break; good to see you back and ready to roll! :)
Big believer in ZERO INBOX here.
I prefer low-CARB (hi @Whatsername (8:59 AM)) to NO-CARB (which I agree with Rex, is pretty much a misnomer); plenty of ways to get CARBs without eating bread, pasta or potatoes. My diet is big on nuts, seeds, dried legumes, fresh veggies and fruits.
Interesting article: Is It Even Possible To Follow A No-Carb Diet? (STELLA KATSIPOUTIS on Women's Health)
Learned PEPITA from the Spelling Bee.
@jae
Thx for the Croce; on it! :)
@okanaganer 👍 for 0 yd (and yet another great time for pg)
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td pg: 4:07 / W: *3
Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance
Nobody likes the Kardashians * - but everybody knows them! And that mass of people (almost everybody) who don't pay much attention to NYT x-word puzzles, pay lots of attention to them:
"Currently, Kim focuses her time on her shapewear brand, SKIMS, her makeup line, KKW Beauty, and KKW Fragrance. Each of these brands are worth over one million dollars and she has collaborated with her sisters for different collections, fragrances, and campaigns."
And that's only Kim! Somewhere the old phrase, "laughing all the way to the bank" comes to mind.
So those of you who got AMIS/URIS without a problem, which is the more known person? Are both of these equally known bits of PPP or is one generally a "gimme" while the other one isn't? Or is it a function of doing enough crosswords? (Which is how I first learned of INBOXZERO a year or two ago, when it showed up in an NYT puzzle. I looked it up and now I'm a disciple -- which reminds me, I need to clean up my inbox from the weekend.)
I could see PETRA/PEPITA being a big tough for a Monday, too. Both were gimmes for me, but I only learned of the fascinating ancient city of Petra a few years ago (seriously, look up a Google video if you've never heard of this place), and pepitas are all over here my Hispanic neighborhood.
LORDE is definitely worth listening to. "Royals" was her big hit, but the follow-up album, "Melodrama" is one of my favorite albums of the last few years.
Hey All !
Too bad there isn't a SINGER named REGNI, we'd have gotten a bonus Themer! Or ISPUK. NISPU. Har.
Two possible Natick spots that y'all have tripped over. That I of URIS/AMIS (although somewhere way deep in the ole brain, in a dark room inside an old chest with no light covered in cobwebs, I have heard of URIS, so my guess there was correct), and the T of PEPITA/PETRA, in which I didn't guess correctly (although PEPITA is next to the chest containing URIS), and put in a D. Dang, a one-letter DNF, on a MonPuz!
But that's just PICKING NITS. Thought puz was neat. Jeff Chen is out off control with his puz acceptances. Eight times for each day? (@Lewis post). He needs to be stopped. 🤣
Isn't it CELLI, not CELLOS? Asking for a cellist friend.
Movie kealoa - RAMBO/ROCKY.
yd -1, should'ves 1 (a head slapping easy word, soooo close to QB!)
No F's (bad run of low/no F's lately, which I had noticed before, ERGO leading to my unhealthy obsession with the lack of use of the ole F)
RooMonster
DarrinV
Opening with a 30 year old movie is better than opening with a 50 year old TV show, but 1A still elicited a “Seriously?!?” here. And then we have a dead natick of Kingsley AMIS and Leon URIS (sure sure, it might be Martin AMIS but do you really believe that?). A “dead natick,” in case it isn’t obvious, is one that’s a natick of dead people. At least the theme answers have only one AARP eligible SINGER. Still, it continues to amaze me that a Monday puzzle, “easy” by intent to be accessible to new solvers, thinks 1991 is “new.” I guess it might be argued that her 1991 role is her most famous, but Yellowstone is sort of huge I hear and she seems to have a recurring role in that show.
Are there CELLOS in a string quartet? Clearly the question is not about a single string quartet and clearly there is more than one CELLO for all the string quartets out there.
@Froth - I’m now imagining RAMBO TEAGARDEN as the opening act for Tegan and Sara. {glad I reread before hitting publish - autocorrupt had made “Tegan” into “Texan” - turning what wasn’t a typo into a typo}
@Muse - I feel like Desmond Morris might be who you are looking for. Look for The Human Animal. I don’t know if it’s available on video or streaming, but I seem to recall him discussing smiles, although I don’t remember specifics.
@TJS - Unless someone emailed Rex I doubt he even knows what was written. His Twitter was all pretty pix of the California Coast. Also, I don’t think his reaction to Adams would be what you all think it would be.
In case you’re wondering about yesterday’s poll, 3 voted they were all equally schadenfreude inducing, 3 felt like the singular they plaint was not as schadenfreude inducing as the other two were, and 1 voter went with the “thinking it’s politics” dude.
@Peter P - I’d say the two were roughly equally famous. Exodus by URIS was probably the most well known of any of their works, so maybe URIS is slightly more famous. The only work by either that I’ve read is The Alteration by Kingsley AMIS, an alternate history where the reformation never happened because the church made Luther pope. And, of course, Martin AMIS is still alive, so there’s more reason for someone to still know him. But I think it is more being of a certain age than their relative notoriety that will help most solvers.
@Peter P - I'd say Uris is the famous one in the US, and Amis in the UK. And I agree with you about Lorde and Melodrama. I also thought her Bowie tribute at the Brit Awards far outshone Lady Gaga's at the Grammys (and I'm a Gaga fan).
Am I the only one who only got INBOXZERO after binging the Big Mouth spin-off Human Resources on Netflix this weekend? One episode had a pretty funny subplot featuring the (new-to-me as a inveterate inbox hoarder) concept and I was rather delighted to see that sitting on the couch all weekend mainlining an animated Netflix show about puberty monsters paid off.
@kitschef 7:13. We usually write “grAy” in the US of A. ThEy usually write “grEy” in one-time British Empire countries.
IRON ORE! My cousin in Australia mines Iron ore. He works for BHP in a remote town in Western Australia called Newman. It is truly the middle of nowhere.
He told me that the company treats the employees very well.
He says they get an extra bonus twice a year so they can travel to civilization. He says the pay is good. He says he works 4 days on then has 4 days off.
I have always wanted to visit PETRA.
Happy Monday to those of you who celebrate it.
I went to the Atlanta Ballet yesterday. Masks were required. Quite a few people thought the rule didn't apply to them. Anyway, it was Giselle, and it was lovely. I got home and looked up the male lead- the poor guy is Ukranian, from Kyiv. His Facebook page about made me cry.
Happy Monday.
@Peter P, Since you asked, Uris was easy because he wrote Exodus and it was made into a movie. The book and movie were "important." It put him in heavy rotation in the NYT puzzle for a long time 40 or 50 years ago. I don't know why I read Kingsley Amis's Lucky Jim a million years ago, but he and son Martin were on the same book shelf. Never read Martin, but there he was.
So these would be easy if you're over 60, spent a lot of time walking around book stores, have been doing the NTY puzz for a long time, and can remember that far back because you retain nothing anymore that would crowd out the old useless info. Let's just admit that Monday isn't for beginners, it's for solvers with a history.
Once worked at The Law Offices of Petra Teagarden. A lovely woman but a little cracked. Represented claimants suing china manufacturers.
@P Coyote, I'm streaming Ken Burn's Country Movie series. As always your narration was perfect.
Leon URIS wrote Trinity, the only book I have read three times. That was a gimme. Faltered a bit with KiMO had to write over. And KHLOEKARDASHIAN? How far have we sunk? Also recently there was a puzzle with CELLI being the plural of cello, so I had vioLaS in there to start. Liked the theme. I actually went to a Lorde concert with my then 16 year old daughter. Wasn’t bad and she covered a Springsteen song so I was happy.
Hi, I only read this blog every few days. So I am only here today to say how unpleasant it was to spend even a few minutes with that Christopher guy who was guest blogging over the weekend.
Hot takes are fine, but what a nasty little accusation that there is some kind of evil "Big Crossword" industry out to make millions from us innocent solvers.
Dude! It's a freaking crossword puzzle! People make up punny answers to clues, and fit them in a box -- and we have fun filling in the boxes. That's all that's going on here!
Thank you @Loren Muse Smith 4:50AM. This was lovely...
@Peter P - You malign all of us Pete[...]s. I listened to Lorde last night, and she's horrible. I'd just as soon listen to Sting talk for hours about his tantric sex sessions lasting for hours. Well, no, but close. ADELE was on TV last night, and it was the first time my wife heard her sing. "I can't understand a word she's saying" was her only comment. I didn't agree until she started talking to someone in the audience, then I agreed. At least she doesn't whisper "tra la la" in a soprano range. I have no comment about DRAKE except to say ducks are ducks even if they present as male.
@Zed - For me it was Amis, but personaly, Kinglsey Amis was about as big a shit as it's possible for one person to be without being a war criminal. Lucky Jim was a brilliant first novel. All the rest chronicled a long slow decline into aged alcoholism and obesity. Not that I can relate or anything.
@Zed - Poll results?
@Gio - Giselle is the best. Anyone, if you want to see a classical ballet make it Giselle.
Agreed. That messed me up, along with the spelling KHLOE with a C. Annoying for a Monday.
Martin Amis' Times Arrow is sublime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time's_Arrow_(novel)
Please, let's just forget about the "K" family forever, shall we? And no more rebuses!! (Rebii?) I can live with multiple word answers, and I like creative construction, but multiple letters per square is something up with which I will not put.
@Zed (10:09). Yeah, Martin AMIS is still a "who?" from me ("French friends" would be the only type of clue I'd figure out for that sequence of letters), but his Wikipedia page says he's influenced by Bellow and Nabokov, a couple of my favorite writers, so it looks like I'll have to do a little exploring of his work. If anyone has a recommendation for a good book of his to dip my toe into, I'm ears. (Or if you think he's not worth reading, let me know.)
If some of the cluing hadn't been so childish, I would have liked it.
Is rapping singing? I wonder if EKARD thinks so.
If any of you would like to be on my MFCTM list, refrain from commenting "Too (easy, hard) for a (day of the week)."
Yes! It’s celli
Strange ideas lurk. Here’s one. If someone is still alive, there’s more reason to know him. Think about the absolute absurdity of that statement.
Any Kardashian as a marquee answer gets a big thumbs-down from me. Bleeahh! Just Make. Them. STOP.
Peter P,
The write in ballot naming z/zed as the blog’s most annoying made him the overwhelming winner. That’s true.
There no way to trust or verify his results. None whatsoever.
....hate the DRAKE!
This gets my fandango tango red shoes award. Why? you ask. Because I like smiling on Monday. You give this ESPOSA a little PEPITA from CUBA as well as my favorite ADELE singing some AMOUR in the GARDEN of plenty, then yes, I smile.
The Japanese "macaques" are know for PICKING NITS. The eat them as well. It's kinda cute watching them foray through the mop tops of their buddies looking for the perfect NIT to pop in their mouth. I think they fall into the NO CARB category so they never get fat.
I went through a "must read all of URIS' book" phase. I enjoyed them all. My favorite was "Ireland" which he co-wrote with his wife. I also read all of the "Dune" books. Does this speak for my intellect?
I never quite kept up with the KARDASHIANS. I admit, though, to staring at their lips. They also have grande fondillos. my mind wanders....How much lipstick do they buy and is their toilet paper two or three ply?
Petty gripe about having 3 Spanish words in the puzzle. Seems a lot for a Monday.
OMG. No. This cannot be. There seems to be a KARDASHIAN in my puzzle! Does anybody have any White Out? Wait. Is there still such a thing as White Out? It is with great difficulty and devotion that I try to avoid this family at all costs when I turn on the TV or read the news or scan the magazine rack while waiting in line at the supermarket. And now somehow — if I see this correctly — there is one stretching across my puzzle from one edge to the other. I expected the GRAY Lady to have a KARDASHIAN ZERO policy when it comes to crossword answers and especially grid spanners. And now this!?! My only hope is that I have somehow answered 15 downs incorrectly and that all is still well with the world.
Other than that, I liked the puzzle.
@Peter P (9:43 AM)
Learned URIS & AMIS from xwords many years ago; both gimmes. Have subsequently read 'Exodus' and 'Lucky Jim'.
@Roo 👍 for excellent SB result yd! :)
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Jeez, some days you can't win with Rex. The themers are all 5-letter singers known primarily by their first names. He would have complained if they had been a different number of letters. Two are women, one is under thirty, one is seventy (how can that be!?) Different genres... What's not to like? I thought it was a terrific puzzle.
I think both Kingsley AMIS and Leon URIS are pretty well known. URIS wrote big fat epics that got turned into movies. I never had any interest in reading them. AMIS wrote Lucky Jim - one of the funniest books I have ever read. His son Martin AMIS is also a well known writer. They were gimmes for me. But they could have gone the French friends route.
Of course it's CELLI, but I've never heard any musicians actually say that.
Welcome back 🦖!
😂Have to 2nd the ugh 😝 for Kardashian (haha even though I know ZERO about her,. 😜)😂
It was a pretty good 🧩 for a Monday!
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Humans don’t bare their teeth when smiling but they do when laughing. I think Siggy once said laughter is aggression from our subconscious, a bit of masked schadenfreude. The most teeth baring laughs come when we contemplate the stupidity of others. It’s a show of superiority.
Some people have trouble giving up their petty gripes. No, not @Rex. I'm talking about those who are still on their hate Christopher Adams rants. Tells me more about them than Mr. Adams
@OFL:
SPOKANE LESBIANS?
careful there Olde Shoe!! long as they don't have abortions, I suppose it's OK (but not TX). the anti-choice police have been in full throat in your absence.
@11:07
Any Kardashian as a marquee answer gets a big thumbs-down from me. Bleeahh! Just Make. Them. STOP.
C'mon man!! Those obsessed with the K family are the same breed that reveres The Orange Sh!tgibbon (not my coinage, but I cleave).
Been a while since I said The Name That Must Not Be Spoken. Miss me?
Isn't Kaitlyn Jenner in the Kardashian Klan?
KEMO crossed with AMIS was absolutely brutal. Stopped me from obtaining a record Monday time.
Yep. DNF'd. I guessed it was AMOS/UROS. Never heard of either person.
BIKYC**
"Special K" was Greg Kelser's nickname. He was a member of the '78-'79 MSU basketball team alongside Earvin(Magic)Johnson, Jay Vincent, Terry Donnelly, and Mike Brkovich. This team won the '79 NCAA championship, beating Indiana State(led by Larry Byrd) in the final. "K" played 6 years in the NBA.
**Because I Know You Care
Right there with you on the single cello, @jcal. Would have no beef if the clue had been instrumentS. I suppose this is PICKING NITS, but it bothered me.
@Gill I - I imagine a Masters thesis comparing Dune to Exodus would be interesting.
@Pete - I ran a little poll late yesterday because I couldn’t sort out which of three comments induced the most schadenfreude. You do need to log in to a google account to take it.
@GPO - The NYT literally makes millions of dollars from just its crossword only subscriptions, not to mention any other crossword related income. I don’t think of them as “evil” so much as unnecessarily greedy, but literally millions of dollars while giving constructors three to low four figures for their creativity.
Personally I’m amazed that the KARDASHIANs are as huge as they are, but as far as I can tell their biggest sin is being famous for being famous. They seem far less harmful than people like Musk or the Koch bros. I just don’t get much past a “SMH - why are they so famous.”
I am not deeply familiar with all of the artists’ music, but doubt that they had ever beed BACKUP SINGERS, and accordingly I quibble a bit with the theme even though its “point” is that the names appear backwards. But the reveal isn’t “backwards” SINGER, so it just doesn’t w
quite work for me. Far from smooth. A little stumbly for a Monday, and I quite enjoy that.
Who made Z in charge of how much money should be made by whom?
That’s gall.
Michiganman,
Don’t remind me. Without looking it up, do you remember who MSU beat in the semis?
Bonus points: who did that team face in the consolation game? ( I miss the consolation game, I’d rather have it than the current “First Four” gimmick.)
@RP: Turn around. Good to see yer back! har. Hum somethin, if U wanna be a backup singer.
SHED has a lead singer in it, too boot.
staff weeject pick: LAS. Better clue, for this here puz: {Backup singing?}.
fave moo-cow eazy-E MonPuz clue: {Havana is its capital} = CUBA.
fave sparkler moments: SPECIALK. The mysterious (at our house) INBOXZERO. Anytime U got an XZ duet in an answer is RARE & DEAR.
fave backup singer: GNITS. Close. Too bad his real name ain't STINK. Makes yah wonder, tho: Are there some one-name singers (like all the themer singers) whose backed-up names actually produce real words? Only problem here is, about the only candidates Old-school M&A knows of are folks like ELVIS and DION.
I reckon SHE can become EHS, if U are real desperate …
Thanx for the fun, Mr. Ewbank dude & Chenmeister. Nicely played duet.
Masked & Anonymo3Us
**gruntz**
A jolly welcome back to our fearless leader!
I fail to see the difficulty in coming up with both URIS and AMIS. URIS is extremely well known, though I myself never read his book. Kingsley AMIS? What other authors are Kingsleys? I have read some of his books, but would have known it regardless.
The only KARDASHIAN I ever liked was Papa Robert. Famous for being OJ Simpson's best friend, and my mind immediately went back to those thrilling days of yesteryear, when we all watched The Chase as OJ was driven around the LA area. In fact, for a moment I thought Robert K had been the driver (he wasn't, it was Al Cowlings). But Robert K was all over the news those days, and I think took a minor role in the trial. Very minor compared to Scheck, who gave the most compelling closing argument I have ever seen in a televised trial (IRL, I was privileged to watch Tony Serra argue cases. He is the best criminal defense attorney I ever saw, and a high point of my life was representing a co-defendant in a Federal trial where Tony represented the lead defendant). Talk about a Dream Team! The other lawyers in that trial were all first-class too.
I paid no attention to the circles, nor to the theme, and really the only musician in the group I have ever liked is STING. And it is news to me that KPH is not a thing. If you have driven in Europe, it is what you are looking at. There may be no speed limits on the Autobahn, but I assure you there are in France, and they have their patrol cars on the Autoroutes and main roads to enforce them.
MFCTM.
Lewis (6:53)
Gio (10:16)
Kross out the klown kalled Khloe. Alternate clue/answer: Enterprise honcho, phonetically (PEEKARD). Yeah, it’s pathetic, and no grid spanner, but if DRAKE simply MUST be in there … (and it would ensure that the AMIS/URIS cross gets the Clunker O’ the Day award it deserves).
PS — @Rex: Missed you, man. I ain’t ashamed of it.
I thought this was a pretty fun Monday puzzle and decided not to let the fact that one of those K people appeared not get me down.
I don’t usually get too wrapped up in the accuracy of themes and themers but might this have worked a little better if the themers (and circles) were DOWN answers? Maybe I am missing an angle. If so, please inform.
@Nancy…interesting that you said Adele emotes and shrieks. I can’t claim to have heard her entire body of work but shrieking does NOT come to mind! I think she is a singer with remarkable vocal control. Janis Joplin comes to mind for me who’re shrieking. Do you think Adele is what my father used to call a “belter” (Dad: that Barbra Streisand is like Ethel Merman…doesn’t SING, she BELTS out her songs)*
@LMS…I’d be interested about the “baring teeth/smiling” question also. Wonder if @Zed’s book might also discuss why US Americans are known around the world for “smiling too much” and how that is viewed by others. (I don’t think it’s generally favorable)
*Not MY opinion
@Zed - Ever since you went with that dumb looking avatar (unless that's you or an immediate relative, in which case by 'dumb looking avatar' I mean 'very handsome avatar') you're missing the point. Poll results? wasn't a question as to what poll, but where are the results.
I'lm surprised at the many early commenters who found Uris unknown or obscure or etc.
That name appears so frequently in crosswords. That's how I know it.
I love the sound Kemo Sabe and from what I can remember of the broadcasts and movies do not think I would cringe at them today.
Over the years there has been what might be called "themer inflation" in mainstream xwords like the NYT. Used to be three themers was the norm. This left lots of space in the grid for interesting fill, room for the constructor to practice the artful arrangement of words crossing one another.
Nowadays we see theme bloat like today where five long themers pretty much dominate the grid and leave precious little room for quality fill. With 40 black squares needed to pull this of, about all we get is a slew of 3s and 4s and stuff like IM HERE, I MEAN, I MAX, I TD, I CED and I DO. And then there's I RON MINE.
Seriously? IRON MINE? Shouldn't that be IRON ORE MINE? If you know where you can just MINE IRON straight out of the earth, you could become as rich and famous as those SPECIAL K women.
For me, saying the above is PICKING NITS would be a tacit admission that it's a legitimate point and NITS is a pejorative way to quickly dismiss it and say let's move along and not discuss this inconvenient truth any more.
@Peter P 9:43 - As the nth person to respond to your question about AMIS and URIS - for me it was a matter of being old enough to have read their novels long enough ago that their names and titles are stored in the secure long-term memory vault, as opposed to the leaky short-term-storage shed that has failed to retain last month's book club selection.
Cute theme. With EDROL, I thought we were going to have some circle-rotation theme. That was soon nixed by GNITS, but that also let me see the backwards singers - which helped me get the remaining two. Great reveal. And I loved beautifully zaftig ADELE embedded in CHISELED ABS.
Help from previous puzzles: RICCI, DRAKE. Shoulda known from previous puzzles: KAOS.
Pete,
That agar is dumb looking, certainly. It is also z or zed. He’s gone by many names on this b,of over the years.
The results of his poll are worthless. They’re unverifiable.
@Z, missing the point?🤔 You don’t say.
@Anoa Bob:
If I remember rightly, ancient humans (or, even, pre-humans) found out about metals, iron included, by finding it whole. Let's go see... yes, yes they did - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metals_of_antiquity
@Pete - “Very handsome avatar” it is. 🤣😂🤣 - And “D’oh!” I think this should work. I don’t see an easy way to share the pretty graph, I think you have to actually take the poll to see the results page. But it does allow me to download this much info to google sheets. I do not think it will update if any else answers the poll.
@Beezer - Morris wrote books but what I mentioned was a TV show.
@Nancy...I'm a bit saddened that you don't like Adele.....Her voice is quite pure. She is untrained but she can hit high and low notes with ease. She's quite refreshing to listen to (to me anyway).
You might try listening to her "Set Fire to the Rain" and. listened to how she reaches both low and high pitches.
Like @Beezer, Adele doesn't shriek.
A poll with 7 respondents* Somebody call Roper and Gallup. Looks like there’s some competition in town. 🤣🤣🤣
* Maybe. There’s no way to verify who and or how many people made those accounts.
@old timer -- Well, I can't think of any writers named Kingsley, much less "other writers named Kingsley" so I guess that would be the problem. I wasn't even aware it was a first name, hence going for Amos Kingsley. I have heard of Ben Kingsley (actor), though.
But thank you all for educating me about Kingsley Amis and ... shit ... I already forgot *looks up thread* the Uris guy. Uris doesn't seem like my cuppa, but Amis' work sounds like it might be interesting to check up on. And perhaps his son's work, too.
As for all the karping about the Kardashians, if the point is to ignore them, it's kind of hard to when they're being brought up over and over again. It just reinforces their notoreity. I have to give them credit for being famous for being famous. They sure played the lot of us, and we keep taking the bait.
Monday puzzles mostly fill themselves in without requiring thought but it took me an EON to figure out the gimmick today.
And EONS ago I visited PETRA with my dearly beloved hubby and we went for an all-comers massage in the hotel. Hubby got whispered congratulations on his wife - wouldn't happen today, alas, any of it.
@LMS, congratulations on upcoming wedding.
SB yd -3, today -1.
also a NEW bottle of ketchup (or other stuff) is FULL
The whole series is on youtube. I think it’s the first episode that addresses @LMS’ question.
@Zed…thanks for setting me straight on the t.v. show. I may search IT. I have too many books in my queue at this moment anyway, including @Mathgent’s The Plot.
@Zed…Your explanation came out before I replied…thanks again! YouTube it is!
I’d forgotten how the first episode starts. It’s “age restricted” on YouTube for a pretty good reason. Nothing salacious but it is certain to turn a roomful of teens into a quivering mess.
Euclid @2:19 PM thanks for not taking the PICKING NITS angle on the IRON MINE issue. That our ancient ancestors came across traces of iron doesn't surprise me but I doubt they found it in a MINE. The 5 Down clue reads "Excavation site for a steelmaker" so I'm still saying the ORE-less IRON MINE is incorrect.
P.S. Loved your Elements! Got anything new on the drawing board?
PICKING NITS is a formulation I've come across on these pages. Shopping for shirts, say?
ABS CHISELED
ROLE EXPANDED
KHARDASIAN KHLOE
Shouldn't the REVEALER be SINGER BACKUP?
How about UP KEY?
Who was BAM RO?
Any one want some GARDEN TEA?
MEAN? MOI?
Would ZERO INBOX be scrabble ***king?
I think I voted for b and c.
Read Lucky Jim for Freshman English in college. Read the novel Exodus when I was 13 or 14 in the summer on my own. The blue paperback. Never quite knew what was history and what was fiction but I was enthralled.
Is the worker's insurance rep your AIDE-de-COMP?
Enough for for a funday here.
Thanks to you both! The sound you hear is me hitting myself in the head and muttering "dummy..."
@Michigan Man, I care. Bird and Magic worked that rivalry through the 80s and saved the NBA. Didn't know about Special K.
Ha! DNF with cHLOE/PIcES. C’est dommage. Right, @Southside “n’est pas” Johnny? I did know both
URIS and INBOX ZERO. Wonder which will still be in crosswords 50 years from now.
Nice revealer. Backwards thinking now am I.
KAOS/SOAK
MAD/DAM
TEN/NET
ERGO/OGRE
NAB/BAN
BRO/ORB
LAS/SAL
ALES/SELA
NOCARB/B(R)ACON
OK, getting a bit/tad NERDSian.
Great comments, as usual, @LMS! Love your dry-erase mic idea - kids just need to be heard. About the BAREd teeth, this doesn’t answer your question at all, but my godmother taught her dachshund, Susie, to ‘smile’ on command.
@Zed, I thought I remembered having The Human Zoo. I went over to a bookshelf and had the truly weird urge to punch in search criteria somewhere. Maybe time to tidy up a bit? I did have them arranged by genre, more or less, but now Martin Buber is flanked by George Carlin and a mini reproduction of the Sears Roebuck & Co. Consumers’ Guide from Fall 1900. Still looking for the Morris.
Today’s composer is Modest Mussorgsky, 1839-1881. He was one of “The Five,” like Friday’s composer Rimsky-Korsakov. Rimsky-Korsakov orchestrated Mussorrgsky’s Night On Bald Mountain, and it was on that piece that Stokowski based his version for Disney’s 1941 Fantasia.
If I recall correctly @Nancy is one of those folks that feel pain when listening to sorpranos singing. MyK is the same. I tried playing that Mariah link the other day at the lowest possible volume so I could hear it less than a foot away. I got a dirty look from the other side of the room. I did not use to believe it but the reason they do not like it is because it causes pain. Believe it.
@Anoa Bob:
P.S. Loved your Elements! Got anything new on the drawing board?
Working on a tale revolving around a kid training to be a wizard. Not likely to have been done before. Although we have scores of Gods in my lifetime, so coming up with stuff that'll wow the underlings could be a stretch.
You've got a terrific memory, @albatross, 7:03. Yes, coloraturas, especially, always make my eyebrows ache. Here's a song guaranteed to cause physical pain to the soprano-averse.
@GILL -- So, not ever wanting to make you sad, I went to listen to "Set Fire to the Rain." It's not half bad -- it has a certain intense pop energy and repetition that's rather infectious.
Now, if I could only understand a single word she's saying...:)
Inbox zero is too easy to achieve. I have inbox nearly half a million.
glad to see your vacation mellowed you out. no carb. no carb. no carb NRA.
Mother of the groom. Wear beige and be quiet, as I recall.
I loved Christopher Adams. Thought he was great. I obviously enjoy Rex too or I wouldn’t be here. They both have high standards and I’ve learned a lot. Don’t always agree, but if I always agreed I couldn’t learn anything.
TIL that Rex believes that it's impossible to live without eating carbs, which is fine, I guess, but not true? I am curious why he thinks that.
The theme is not bang on. These are all lead singers. I get that you read the circled letters backwards but even so. The reveal should really hit the bullseye. This one is slightly off-target. Am I PICKINGNITS? Maybe... Also, the area at the bottom with URIS, AMIS and ESPOSA was Natick city. DNF for me for guessing AMIr-ESPOrA. Jeff is a great constructor, but that was a bit unfair for a Monday.
I hate Mondays.
FIRST: You-know-who is asleep at the switch--AGAIN!!--forcing me to scroll back halfway through March, two days at a time, to get here.
SECOND: My Wordle run came to a screeching halt with a double-bogey today; guess what score this puzzle is going to get.
THIRD: My hockey team got knocked out of the playoffs yesterday on a blatantly blown non-call, plus a goal with 0.9 SECOND left on the clock.
AND FINALLY: this puzzle. I'm surprised Jeff had a hand in this. Circles with backward names? NAMES?!? in them? Letter add-on (RATEDG: UGH!)?? And NOCARB??? Folks, let me say it again: there is NO SUCH THING as a NOCARB diet. If you take in zero carbs...YOU DIE! There ARE low-carb diets, which are good. Learn the difference, please. It's literally a vital distinction.
Tuesday: please hurry, You can't get here soon enough.
Oh yeah: two over par.
NERD'S NITS
"IMEAN, is KHLOE a TEN
to UP and SHED her clothes?"
"BRO, IT'D be SPECIAL when
she's not PICKING her NOSE."
--- DAN "RAMBO" RICCI
so that's why those circled were there
oh
Glad I got the puzzle without noticing that.
Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords
Why are you lying?
Unless you also say that they are called gold ore mines and silver ore mines.
And you know they are not.
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