Word of the Day: GENDER EUPHORIA (14A: Feeling that a new haircut or a new set of clothes might bring) —
Gender euphoria (GE) is a term for the satisfaction, enjoyment, or relief felt by people when they feel their gender expression matches their personal gender identity. Psych Central's definition is "deep joy when your internal gender identity matches your gender expression." It is proposed that feelings of gender euphoria require societal acceptance of gender expression. In academics and the medical field, a consensus has not yet been reached on a precise definition of the term, as it has been mainly used within a social context. The first attempt to rigorously define gender euphoria through an online survey took place in 2021, conducted by Will Beischel, Stéphanie Gauvin, and Sari van Anders. Transgender congruence is also used to ascribe transgender individuals feeling genuine, authentic, and comfortable with their gender identity and external appearance.
The term gender euphoria has been used by the transgender community since at least the mid-1970s. Originally, it referred to the feeling of joy arising from fulfilling a mix of gender roles, which was different from the concept of gender dysphoria, which is used to describe individuals who wished to medically transition to a different sex.In the 1980s, the term was published in trans contexts, coming up in interviews with trans people. For example, in a 1988 interview with a trans man, the subject states, "I think that day [Dr. Charles Ilhenfeld] administered my first shot of the 'wonder-drug' must have been one of the 'peak-experiences' of my life -- talk about 'gender euphoria'!" The interview indicates he is referring to testosterone. (wikipedia)
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[15A: Child support?]
Saturday euphoria is a little different from Friday euphoria. On Friday, I like things to be a little difficult, but what I really like is whooshing and zooming around the grid by way of long, original, entertaining answers. The whoosh is the euphoria. On Saturdays, on great Saturdays, the euphoria is slower in coming, since the solve is more of a grind. Frustration, even annoyance, that then releases into "oh ... yeah, that's good, actually"—that's the stuff I'm looking for on Saturday. And I got plenty of it today. This puzzle had the kind of "difficulty" I like—not (that many) obscure answers, but tricky, mischievous, misdirective cluing that has you spinning your wheels ... until you finally get traction and (ideally, maybe grudgingly) find yourself appreciating both the answer and the clue's cleverness. The biggest "screw this!" to "wow, ok, that's good" swing I experienced today came with END RANT (2D: Means of closing up a vent). I had an inkling that "vent" was going to mean something other than the expected "opening that permits the escape of fumes, steam, etc." If you're "closing up" is the phrase you'd use for sealing a physical "vent"— that's what the clue wants you thinking about, so you don't see the other kind of vent, which is the intended one. It's Saturday, so my instinct is to look for the off-/alt-meaning, always. But even so, I couldn't find the handle on the answer today, and ended up writing in ENTENTE (a friendly agreement between countries ... maybe the countries are less hostile now and so they've stopped venting at each other? I dunno, it made some kind of sense when I wrote it in—and so many common letters ... it seemed possible). Then, because END RANT ran right through a three-letter tennis player (ANA) whose name could've been anything—IGA (an actual tennis champion's name), IDA (my cat's name), INA, UNA, ENA—I didn't have the "A." At some point I did get that second "N," but instead of helping me get END RANT, all it did was make me hallucinate an END RING (you know, the thing you pull to close up the vent!) (UGH!). But when, eventually, I got END RANT, after a second of two of "dammit!" resentment, I had to admit that yes that is a current, much-used phrase (mostly in social media posts), and a good one. An original one, at least. That END RANT fight is the kind of fight I wish puzzles gave me more often.
But what makes this puzzle really lovely are the stacks, both of which (up top, down below) are strong and vivid. Or at least two-thirds strong and vivid. Can't say I care too much for SENIOR CENTERS or ONLINE CASINOS, but the rest of those long Acrosses are solid. And I say this as someone who gave up on Marvel movies years ago—still didn't mind seeing AVENGERS: ENDGAME in the grid. And loved HALLOWEEN PARTY (as clued) (48A: Scene for a skeleton crew?), SECURITY BLANKET (as clued) (15A: Child support?) and GENDER EUPHORIA (especially as clued—the clues are the highlights today, as much as the answers themselves) (14A: Feeling that a new haircut or a new set of clothes might bring). Those answers come bursting out of nowhere. The clues get you thinking about one thing, and then hit you with another. Over and over and over. Clever misdirection—that's the key to Saturdays, I think.
[23A: Horn-heavy genre]
Now, "I SAID 'STOP'" is a bit of a made-up phrase (not as common as, say, "I SAID 'NO'"), but it seems pretty standalone-worthy to me. But there really weren't any answers that made me utter a genuine "UGH!" of disgust. And there was a HOST (31A: Bevy) of answers that made me say "Wow." KISS ARMY! (24D: Fan group that often wears black-and-white face paint) That takes me back.
SHOWBOATS is a great word, as is ESCHEWED (30D: Forwent). GETS WISE, PAPER THIN ... the hits keep coming, and the grid hardly buckles at all. The closest thing to a "buckle" for me was Charlie PUTH, but he's going to be a feature not a bug for some people—he's a very popular contemporary singer-songwriter, and this is his debut NYTXW appearance (27D: Charlie with the 2016 hit "We Don't Talk Anymore"). If you're pop culture-averse, I suppose there are a handful of reasons to dislike this grid, but if you count up the pop culture answers in the grid, there really aren't that many. I actually think there's very nice balance to this puzzle, in terms of the variety of answers. The difficulty mostly involves wordplay. That's something I'd like to encourage. We all have to deal with mystery proper nouns from time to time—as long as we're not inundated, I don't think there's a problem. Charlie PUTH's debut single was "Marvin Gaye." I think I'd rather listen to actual Marvin Gaye. Let's listen to Marvin Gaye.
[33D: Dad-blasted]
I know I said I stopped seeing Marvel movies, and I have—completely. They hold no interest for me at all any more. That said, I might be coaxed back into the theater if Marvel released a movie called AVENGERS: END RANT. And speaking of the Avengers, I wish that clue on AVENGERS: ENDGAME had included the word "ironically" somewhere (42A: Penultimate film in a series of 23). It's the penultimate movie in the series but it's called ENDGAME? Inapt! Also, is the series really over? I feel like "penultimate" implies there is an "ultimate" movie and that that movie is the last one. But I assume they will just make more and more ad infinitum. The Internet is telling me there are 37 MCU movies, so I don't really know what this "23" refers to. Are there really 23 (!!!) Avengers movies??? You know what, I try very hard to know as little as possible about the MCU, so you don't have to answer the question, I'm good.
Bullets:
41A: Approx. 25% of it consists of national forests (ORE.) — this could've been anything. [Place with lots of trees], basically. I got ORE. (i.e. Oregon) entirely from crosses. I literally looked up the location of Corvallis just yesterday! (because a reader told me he was from Corvallis and I had to remind myself where that was). No help with this clue, unfortunately. Did you know Corvallis is the westernmost city in the contiguous 48 states with a population of more than 50,000? Me neither. Until yesterday.
50A: Chucked, informally (YEETED) — I love this word. Most new slang (i.e. slang that has come into being since I was young) seems silly and I don't want anything to do with it, but "yeet"—I love it. I love how it sounds. It's like the word for chucking something and the sound that you make when chucking something, simultaneously. It's just fun to say. And it's been in the puzzle before, so you should know it by now. This goes double / triple / quadruple for ELLE Woods and her having taken the LSAT. ELLE and LSAT were gimmes—they helped give me the traction that made this puzzle doable.
3D: Some joint promotions (TIE-INS) — pretty basic stuff, but because it's Saturday, I was rolodexing through every meaning I could think of for "joint." Do they mean knee? Do they mean marijuana cigarette? Prison??? The cruelest thing a Saturday puzzle can do to me is not zag. Just play it straight. I'll never see it coming.
10D: Native American people known as the "Nation du Chat" (ERIE) — gonna start calling my house "Nation du Chat" (oh, and I had CREE here at first):
[Wintertime in la Nation du Chat]
13D: One breaking a 108-year drought in 2016 (CUB) — the CUBs (in)famously hadn't won the World Series in 108 years when they finally won it in 2016. I knew this. But my brain decided the answer should be "on a scoreboard," so I wrote in CHI. Then CHC. :(
28D: God who rides in a chariot pulled by two giant magical goats (THOR) — as divine roads go, this one is hard to beat. I had the "T," so no problem (otherwise, I might've guessed ODIN).
49A: Where one might hope to find good deals on the internet? (ONLINE CASINOS) — saw right through this one ("deals" = cards), but still struggled, as the plural was not readily apparent. I guess you could argue that the plural is indicated by "deals," but presumably, if you're playing online poker, you're playing more than one hand, so multiple "deals" did not, in fact, make me think of multiple CASINOS. Oh well, just another way that Saturdays f*** with you—by hiding plurals. It's fine.
That's all. See you next time.
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Easy-Medium, with most of the challenge in the SE. * * * * _
Overwrites: @Rex creE before ERIE at 10D I thought emo might be horn-heavy but 23A was that other three-letter genre, SKA lOpS before MOWS at 34A Wanted HALLOWEEN PArty at 48A but it didn't fit. Considered the possibility of a single-cell rebus. ONLINE mArketS before CASINOS at 49A
WOEs: GENDER EUPHORIA (14A) as a "thing" although it was easy enough to get from crosses. Tennis player ANA Ivanovic at 17A Charlie PUTH at 27D Got the AVENGERS part of 42A but needed crosses for ENDGAME
Good start to my Saturday. I solved it quicker than my average Saturday by 3:30. So, easy-medium but I guess more on the easy side. Fun little puzzle and well-constructed.
Fun time all around. Daunting grid architecture with those huge isolated stacks but there are some footholds - overall well balanced. Rex summarizes most of the highlights - I liked the longish downs GETS WISE, DEPLORES, SHOWBOATS.
Seemed to get a little less strenuous in the lower half. Didn’t really know the term GENDER EUPHORIA and similar to the big guy figured “vent” had to do with heating or AC. STONE was well clued.
Highly enjoyable frigid Saturday morning solve. David Williams’ Stumper today presents a quite different grid layout with a huge center diagonal stack that is testy.
SE corner was BRUTAL. Had aiRBuN before TURBAN (who know, maybe an airbun is a thing???), had CAtalog before CASINOS, night before PARTY, DENty before DENSE. SHOWBrAgS before SHOWBOATS (that was just dumb on my part). Couldn't remember the name of the AVENGERS movie for the longest.... the clue for TENPIN had me thinking about AC units.... and ENDRANT also took me forever. Finally got it from crosses, still didn't realize what it was about (just couldn't get myself out of HVAC mode today, I guess. My son works HVAC). Anyhow, great puzzle, mighty struggle, finished in the end, TADA, happy Saturday! Thanks, Ryan and Adrian!!!! : )
Agree with Rex that the cluing was great today. I will add “It may wind up at the top of one’s head” for TURBAN. I figured the trick immediately but guessed “beanie” — you know, those child hats that have a spinner at the top? I thought maybe you wind that thing up.
I had the ONL… for where to find good deals on the internet, and like Rex , I guessed it was about gambling. But my first thought was, “Does ONLy Fans have a gambling section?” I also had “emu” before PIG for “It’ll never fly.”
I've always felt that AVENGERS: ENDGAME should be the last film in MCU phase 3, and that Spiderman: Far from Home should be the first film in phase 4. But of course, it's not up to me.
Very good puzzle overall. Even having read the explanation, I don't get how the GENDER EUPHORIA clue relates to the answer.
For some reason, I kept putting the E from EUPHORIA as part of the previous word, so I was wondering how GENDERE EUPHORIA could be right until I finally came to my senses.
Not as challenging as yesterday but still above average for a Saturday. What set this one apart was the west center segment. Changing WIND to WISE finally broke the dam for that little area
To finish I put in the final E of ELLE just because of YEETED. I don't care for this "slang" category of answer but it was fairly crossed. Only after I got the congrats did I actually remember who ELLE Wood was. I don't doubt this isn't the first time ELLE has been clued this way.
As a Chicagoan I can't help but think that the appearance of both the 2016 CUBs and PIGs that don't fly was a coincidence.
PUTH was an unknown but once again the constructors played fair by crossing him with OCHS.
Could not help but notice the stacked age regression from SENIOR CENTER to GENDER EUPHORIA to SECURITY BLANKET.
In my experience, I SAID STOP is at least as common an expression as "I said no."
Agree very much with Michael not only regarding the level of a Saturday challenge, but the way it is challenging - and the qualitative difference between a good Friday and a good Saturday challenge. The best Saturdays are not just harder; they are different-harder.
Oh, lots of digging and scraping, just what my brain hungers for on Saturday. Answers thrown in that have to be taken out. Opaque clues. Grinding hard, even with a grid of answers I’m mostly familiar with.
And here it was today. Plenty of forehead wrinkling. Tough, tough, clues, like [Practice] for WONT.
But also plenty of answers, such as PAPER THIN, ESCHEWED, MUNDANE, and SHOWBOATS, that made me smile and think, “Ain’t English grand?” Even an LOL moment, with [It’ll never fly!] for PIG.
Plus, the sweet memory of my son’s SECURITY BLANKET, which eventually looked like a lion had used it to sharpen its nails.
Also, respect. Sheesh – this is an uber-low 66-worder fully free of junk! This is an answer set freshened by 10 NYT debut answers, including the entire bottom three-stack.
Adrian and Ryan, this, your first collab, has been a paradigm Saturday, IMO – what a day enhancer! More please. I. Loved. This. Thank you!
Administrative note. This evening, an ice storm lasting more than 20 hours straight will be rolling in, and it's quite possible communications will be disrupted. If I am away for a few days, that will be why. But, glass-half-full guy that I am, I greatly hope to return here tomorrow!
Hey All ! AVENGERS: ENDGAME was the last film in the original run of MCU movies. The ones before were all origin/intro films, or the Team fighting various nefarious villains. Since Marvel Studios still wanted to make more money/movies, they dubbed that first set as Series 1. So, now the Marvels moving forward are different Series.
Had GENuinEEUPHORIA in first before getting some of the Downs. Made sense.
Puz was easy on the Saturday spectrum, but still had a one-letter DNF at ENtRANT/GENtER. Ah, me. Sure, made no sense, but what can you do.
Good puz, nice cluing, decent time (clock time, that is.)
I liked this a lot and mostly agree with @Rex. Never heard of YEET before. It has hate at first sight. But I know Phil OCHS. I guess a wide net for DEPLORES might include "regrets" but it usually means disapproval or condemnation. Siri, why is it so ****ing cold?
Well, the top played easy at least. Can't count the number of times Iv'e played at SENIORCENTERS, which I prefer to "nursing homes". And yes, these sets have included songs by Phil OCHS. GENDEREUPHORIA filled itself in, good thing, as it was news to me. Kept trying to parse ENDRANT as one word. Dumb.
The bottom, however, was a tale of two halves. AVENGERS something, HALLOWEEN something, ONLINE something., KISS something, and LOPS was jamming the vertical gears. MOWS eventually led to MUNDANE and TURBAN and things got straightened out. Good struggle.
I didn't think of ORE as Oregon even after it was filled in and wondered if it referred to 25% of national fOREsts bening the letters ORE. Guess not.
And hello Mr. PUTH, a surname I have never seen anywhere.
A worthy Saturday, AJ and RMC. A Jumble of Reasonably Mysterious Clues. Thanks for all the fun.
Phil Ochs. Way back when, my 8th grade teacher introduced the class to Phil's "Outside of a Small Circle of Friends" as a way of discussing (1960s) current events.
I actually knew the Thor/Goat connection from the Marvel movies.
Rex, I humbly suggest calling a clue that doesn’t zag a Panenka, named after the soccer penalty kick technique where you just lightly kick it straight, assuming the goalie will dive to one side and the ball will trickle into the net. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panenka_(penalty_kick)
Arts or tarts? It depends on whether you start with AORTA.
Naively out-of-date response when asked for voters biggest concerns: ISAIDSTOP?
Bet payoff required of Navy if they lose the big game next year? KISSARMY (or MENU as Hegseth calls it).
Did Charlie PUTH follow up on "We don't talk anymore " with "We don't talk about Bruno "? Or am I thinking of someone else?
You'll always win at ONLINECASINOS if you SHOWBOATS.
I'm in complete agreement with @Rex about every bit of this puzzle. Really top notch cluing underlying a junkless grid. A HOST of thank yous to Adrian Johnson and Ryan McCarty.
On the hard side, I'll say. I wasn't quite as enthusiastic as Rex. For one, I really don't see anything lovable about YEETED. Nothing clever about it, and it doesn't sound like anything ("It's like the word for chucking something and the sound that you make when chucking something, simultaneously" -- no it is not). UGH, I say. (Which by the way I wasn't crazy for either, as clued.) AVENGERS: ENDGAME -- like we were saying yesterday, OH PUH-LEASE. I have never seen an Avengers movie and probably never will, and you expect me to be keeping track of this crapola?! Bad long answer.
SENIOR CENTERS: that didn't please Rex, but they're nice institutions because they offer a lot to people trying to live out their best lives. Don't knock them. GENDER EUPHORIA: that one I wasn't going to get without crosses, but it did make me reflect on its opposite, gender dysphoria, and how hard that must feel internally, and how most of the world doesn't get it, or get how a new hair cut or new clothes could bring on actual euphoria. SHOWBOATS: great word, great entry.
Got myself in some trouble with "ivy" before REC, and "lops" before MOWS. I came up with the band KISS, but allowed myself a cheat in getting to ARMY. Tricky cluing for WONT ("Practice") and for NEE ("Called on one's birthday?" -- nice). Took a while to cough up HOST for "Bevy" (both good words; another word for this that I seem to be using a lot these days is "raft"). Liked SECTIONAL and the way it was clued.
So, all in all it seemed to be a proper Saturday. Overall I liked it, in spite of some annoyances reported on above.
Really struggled with this one. Just couldn't tune in to when I should chase the misdirect and when I should just stay straight. Thrilled when some longs went in easy and then stumped by lots of the short fill. Ended up being the kind of puzzle that just proves to me i'm not quite there yet. Lol, actually tired me out. I have gotten good enough to appreciate a puzzle like today and not just skip it, but not good enough to enjoy a satisfying victory. Someday.
Same. I fully expected to run the alphabet and was surprised when my first guess of H got the happy music, especially since I had one other square I wasn't sure of (NEE crossing ORE). 100% Nattick imo.
wont /wônt,wänt,wōnt/ nounFORMAL•HUMOROUS one's customary behavior in a particular situation. "Constance, as was her wont, had paid her little attention"
OCHS may be a fair cross for some but he died before I was born and was a total WOE for me. Naticked by that cross with PUTH. Betting I’m not the only one. Enjoyed the puzzle but that cross annoyed me.
The choice of emu cracked me up too! (See above “airbun”). Hey, I had wrong initial answers, but very boring ones! I’d prefer to have my wrong answers to be funny!
Definitely a Natick. It’s a last name - SEVERAL letters work for OC_S: OCKS OCTS OCES OCUS any of those seem just as plausible as OCHS to me. Never seen any one of them.
Is there something more to “Four minus one” for TREY that I’m missing? Seems like such a weak clue that it’s almost too easy and that’s what makes it tricky?
Keep warm @Lewis! Yes, I know you are in one of the ice areas. People I know keep texting me about storm and I say “pfft” we’re just getting snow…worry about people from central Kentucky on down!
Some people have steins in their own homes. My dad had one. A pint seems a reasonable quantity to have in one's stein as one is socializing with friends at home. Whether or not it's German beer sitting in the vessel, or whether you spell it "bier", seems irrelevant.
This puzzle had an usual combination of fill that made it feel somewhat quaint (WONT. ESCHEWED, DOGGONE), fill that was completely unknown to me (PUTH, YEETED), and fill that felt tired (ELLE Woods, again).
Some of the cluing seemed off; I think of DEPLORES as indicating strong dislike rather than regret, and I really don't understand how GENDEREUPHORIA relates to its clue (what does gender have to do with it?). But some of the cluing was clever, like that for INHALER and CUB. All in all, I enjoyed this Saturday morning solve.
I really had to work to get this one. But I enjoyed the effort. WOES = TURBAN. PUTH (although anything "Marvin Gaye" is fine with me), Really liked GENDER EUPHORIA, KISS ARMY & your review today, Rex. Thank. you, Adrian & Ryan for a good Saturday work-out :)
I’m seeing a photo of Marvin Gaye with the caption “Dad-blasted”. I realize that the caption refers to the song … but it seems in poor taste considering the singer was shot and killed by his father.
To make sense of GENDER EUPHORIA, it might help to set it against gender dysphoria, in order to imagine how something that might seem so quotidian like getting a hair cut can take on an entirely different significance for someone who has suffered from gender dysphoria. I thought the clue-answer pairing were great, and also thought-provoking.
On the tougher side for me (about 1.3x my average Saturday time), but similar to Rex, I liked it overall: a good kind of tough. I had many more initial guesses that turned out wrong today than usual (I'm probably forgetting some, but I had WEAK SAUCE for a flimsy argument instead of PAPER THIN; BANANA instead of TEN PIN for the 'split' clue; B_ER for 'stein contents' [wasn't sure if they'd use the German or English spelling, but "knew" one of the two had to be right!], and HOUNDS instead of ASIANS for Afghans). Like an earlier poster, I was pretty sure the Olympics would factor into the 'skeleton' answer; for what turned out to be GENDER EUPHORIA, I thought it was going to be a generational thing (e.g., GEN XER EUPHORIA) until I finally got END RANT figured out!
@Anon 9:57AM. "Natick" is invariably a subjective call. Consider how the term came into being: Rex couldn't come up with the initial N. in N.C. Wyeth that crossed the N in Natick. And yet N.C. Wyeth is certainly a widely recognized name, inferable to many but not to all. So I think "true Natick" carries about the same status as "true Scotsman".
I think there's a large segment of puzzlers who consider OCHS very familiar, and another who consider PUTH very familiar. Unfortunately, you're in a smaller segment that knows neither, I think.
Quickly threw in METAT and MENU and thought this one would be easy. So wrong! To move on had to look up DISPEL and then grind through the rest except for another look-up for SKA. And at the end, had YEyTED instead of YEETED, but didn’t really matter since neither is familiar to me. Think this is a good challenging very themeless puzzle with some tough proper names but very little crosswordese, at least IMHO (did I get that right?).
Four star puzzle and write-up; one of those rare days when both bring mutual joy. Only unfortunate aspect was PUTH crossing OCHS; I see some here knew one, which I guess by definition makes a cross "fair". Had PUT_ and humorously considered Putz, but Oczs wasn't happening. OCHS just seemed more likely; lucky guess.
Delayed appreciation for the clue for TURBAN; it may "wind up"...outstanding.
Did you read Rex's write-up to understand the many things to appreciate in the puzzle? Often I dislike a puzzle initially but then come to appreciate it after reading his comments. That's why he's OFL.
There were so many ways to go wrong on this puzzle and I found a few. Obviously you get "Bier" in a stein. A horn-heavy genre is going to be "bop". Knocking off the top is going to be "lop".
Yet I overcame all of these in spite of having never heard of ANA or Charlie PUTH (and being really shaky on OCHS). I loved the clues for END RANT and SECURITY BLANKET. Some great words like DISPEL and MUNDANE, DOGGONE and TURBAN.
I got a real workout today so thanks, Adrian and Ryan, for a fun Saturday puzzle!
While solving I was annoyed by things I just did not know, like PUTH and (as clued) SKA. But everything was fairly clued, and it all came together at the end, with lots of Aha! reaction when i finally parsed a clue correctly. I was trying to decide if "Main" was the German river or "principle" when I got HALLOWEEN PARTY, and saw the AHO_, which had to be AHOY! i.e., main as in ocean. That gave me YEETED without my noticing it -- though when I finally did I realized we had seen it before.
Before coming here I was telling myself that the group would be divided into those like me who'd never heard of PUTH, and those who knew PUTH but never heard of OCHS, but I see there were many who'd never heard of either. Just remember, while Charlie doesn't talk anymore, Phil doesn't march anymore.
I pretty much felt the same about @Rex about the puzzle, but it was north of “medium” for me, but the kind of puzzle I like…filled with clever cluing and me starting out feeling that I will inevitably cheat, then getting eurekas and toe holds that allow me to finish. Loved it. So I said “allowed to finish”…nope, not really. I was CONVINCED that ENDRuNs were the “means for closing a vent.” I convinced myself that a vent could be a sports term in football…or something, but I was still left with the improbably uNA and WONs. After checking the puzzle I did a big D’OH and admired the cunning clue for WONT because it’s my won’t to admire cleverness. Thanks Dorian Johnson and Ryan McCarty!
Medium sorta? The bottom third and the NE were actually pretty easy, but the rest took some effort, especially the NW. I’ve never heard of GENDER EUPHORIA and END RANT took a while to see and parse partly because ANA was a WOE and I went through much of the same thought processes that @Rex did. I also had Aero before ANTI for way too long which was a very costly erasure…tough corner for me.
Ass before ANT was another costly erasures and PUTH, THOR, and ORE were also WOEs.
Light on junk with more than a hint of sparkle and some fine tricky clueing, liked it.
I read ENDRANT as one word, couldn't figure out what I'd done wrong, then the puzzle told me I had successfully solved and I still didn't understand so I came here.
Expected a comment on that clue for MOWS - I don't think of blades as knocking anything.
Wow. Terrible. Started with METAT ended with YEETED and nobody could possibly have written a more obtuse clue for GENDER EUPHORIA. Over and over cringy cluing trying (I think?) to be clever. Super fast solve while hoping over and over the answer it seemed to be couldn't possibly be, but yet it was.
1 What most people wish I'd do sooner rather than later. 2 Did it yerself fancily. 3 Hates the right-winger. 4 One taking a deep breath while trying to stay positive about every puzzle. 5 Seeing the Mississippi river while being sea sick.
1 END DOG GONE RANT (~) 2 TIE-INS ESCHEWED 3 DEPLORES TEN PIN 4 MUNDANE INHALER (~) 5 SHOWBOAT'S PERK (~)
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Take roommate to the tanning spa. RETINT COTENANT.
Never heard of YEETED (what's the etymology of that monstrosity, anyway?) and it never occurred to me that SECTIONAL could be anything but an adjective, so 12-down was a WOE, as well. Flummox'd out on PUTH and ELLE, also.
Great, challenging puzzle with just the right amount of difficulty for a Saturday and fun, colorful clues and fill. These days, sad to say, the KISS ARMY may be spending a lot of time in SENIOR CENTERS. I’m sure there’s some SHOWBOATing involved, and maybe the makeup is helping them experience GENDER EUPHORIA. Good for them!
I hadn't heard the phrase before either, but it makes sense as a concept. Hairstyles and clothes are strongly tied to people's perception of gender roles, enough so that it's very common for people to be teased or even bullied for not having the "right kind" for their gender. Even though what counts as "masculine" and "feminine" has changed drastically over the centuries!
So for people who maybe grew up teased for their style choices to finally boldly and confidently wear them -- it must feel good.
Some of them are "human names", even if rare. And it's not a convincing argument that they're not, merely by inspection of your own head. It reminds me of the often-seen lament "that's not a word!", when a trip to the dictionary shows otherwise.
This puzzle took me about four times the usual amount of time to solve, and at least half of it was spent in the lower right section. But I finally threw in ENDGAME out of desperation and it unraveled.
What @Beezer said. Light snow at my house this morning, maybe 2 inches at this point with potentially 5 to my 9 more forecast. But I’ll take that over even a quarter inch of ice. Stay safe, both of you.
UGH definitely made me go UGH. So, so tired of the OOHs and the AAHs and the UGHs that can be clued by any human emotion the constructor feels appropriate.
Late today after sweeping a snow path for the dogs and battening down the hatches. So far, so good but I have a feeling it won’t be that easy by this time tomorrow. Puzzle was very tough for me, but I cast aside all pride and finished with what I tried to make a minimum of cheating.
14A has generated one of the more interesting discussions this week. I experienced that myself recently. I had already had my hair cut and nails done for a special occasion when something came up which could have potentially postponed it. But after a short period of angst, the show went on and all was well. I had not wasted my money after all and the hair and nails were fabulous. Now that that’s GENDER EUPHORIA.
I wrote in GENDEREUPHORIA off the clue and ...R_A so I disagree about it being abstruse. It seems a number of people complaining about that clue in this thread do not know what gender euphoria is and are translating their (perfectly understandable) ignorance into a criticism of someone else.
Agree with airBUN as a hilarious, but very real thing that thanks to you @Rick Sacra now has an official name! Kind of like “air quotes.” My daughter (and now also granddaughter) is and always has been obsessed with hairdos. In junior high, she even did a book report on a tome that described and had instructions and pictures for how to construct famous hairdos. Always one who, a bit like her own mother, talks with her hands, she is WONT to demo the twists, curls, plaits or an airBUN or two as she describes her latest idea before making the inaugural attempt.
Wow a great challenging Saturday; halfway through I thought "no way I'm gonna finish this" then gradually built up traction.
Lots of typeovers; probably the funniest was COW before PIG. I swear, somehow I thought the expression was "when cows fly". And that made 32 across O STOP STOP for a while.
Not too many names but a few short Unknowns: SIA ANA PUTH. And again today, why such a contrived clue for ORE, which is a perfectly acceptable word all by itself.
And we still have no snow and none in the forecast! The last snowfall was 1 cm (0.4") on Dec. 4. Only 1.3 mm of rain so far this month -- that's about 1/20th of an inch. Never seen anything like it .
Fun to solve, with some whipsawing between "Is this is going to be another too-easy Saturday?" (an immediate SENIOR CENTERS) and "Yikes! Am I looking at a DNF?" (the SE corner), with plenty of enjoyable clue pondering in-between. Finally getting END RANT felt particularly rewarding (after I'd gone through END RuNs (hi, @Beezer) and END RiNg (relative of an O-ring?). Special tip of the hat to that SE corner - what a bear! And such good answers - and clues (TURBAN!).
GENDER EUPHORIA was new to me as a phrase but immediately brought to mind the photo of someone very dear to me after they'd gotten their first haircut that matched their gender identity - the most joyful smile ever.
I noodled out the whole of the south and the contained swath below TARE and SKA. The problem was the north and edge-northwest, where I had enough filled in to form a working base—namely METAT, ITT, ASIANS, SIA, STONE, PERK, and PIG. But I also had four badly placed wrong answers that were plausible and, with the exception of 20D, solid and defensible:
29A, beer/bier not PINT 5D, trio not TREY 7D, muffler (expels the intake) not INHALER 20D, aero not ANTI
While “aero piracy” is absolutely a thing, it’s more often called “air piracy,” so I should have been more skeptical. But one can see how this state of affairs made figuring out the rest extremely difficult, and indeed, at one point I had backed out of PIG, STONE, and PERK. Cats and dogs living together: I was in trouble.
What sealed my DNF were two clues that, in my opinion, were iffy and dang wonky, respectively. The iffy clue was 14A, in that GENDEREUPHORIA was clued as a universal phenomenon when, in fact—need to be careful here—it is something very few people ever experience. And while the term may be more widely discussed now than it was in the past, it still does not reach far enough into the lived experience of most American generations to warrant such bare cluing. I’m aware of the book, so I feel reasonably confident that a nod in the direction of the transgender community would have made this appropriately gettable, at least for me.
TREY for 5D, however, was just dang wonky. I rarely make such a claim, but this is one where I feel like I have the goods. A TREY is a three-point shot in basketball in most contexts. It can be used as a cutesy, slangy replacement for “three,” sure, but so can lots of things. Consider hypothetical answers for the question, “How many ya want?”
Tree: as in, “Johnnycakes? I can make do with, oh… tree, four, ten… you know me, ayuh, and extra Moxie in m’joe this time.” Twee: as in, “Hello Kitty cookies? Twee? Pwee… zuh?” TREY: as in, “Gatorades? Yeet me a trey, cuz.”
Valid, but not nearly standard enough to make sense as a NYT xword clue. TRIO, meanwhile, works. How many are you? Right now, four… but in an hour we’ll be minus one, so that would make us… A trio? Yup. And amigos forever, we’ll be.
Predictably, none of y’all are Swifties, or you would’ve gotten PUTH much more easily. From The title track to The Tortured Poets Department: “You smoked, then ate seven bars of chocolate/we declared Charlie PUTH should be a bigger artist” Thanks to my strong background in 60s singer-songwriters (thanks, dad!) I had no trouble with Phil OCHS either.
@tht that is condescending baloney. There is a Wikipedia entry on the surname OCHS because it is a real surname. Famous people have the name. The former owner of the NYT was an OCHS. You cannot name a single OCTS. You all are mad because you don’t know one of two very famous people. That’s a you problem, not a puzzle problem.
On the question of what a "true Natick" is, since I grew up in the next town over, Natick would definitely not have been a true Natick. for me. So yes, subjective! : ). I know Phil Ochs name.... but perhaps mainly from crosswords!
Honestly, I am surprised that I finished this without cheating. I saw those two bylines and nearly YEETED (I despise that word!!!) my tablet across the room. Either of them can flummox me. In a collaboration, I feared failure. But, perseverance to the rescue. I am happy as a clam to have a challenging Saturday though, but honestly feel (a bit like the good @Gary J) that these two very able constructors were occasionally trying to outdo each other with impossible clues.
Sad that OFL knocked the SENIOR CENTERS. It got me into the north half nicely. The stacks are just gorgeous, and the puzzle is a true Saturday.
But honestly, today’s highlight and huge laugh thus far is the airBUN (above, with the folks who rise early). Being able to share the solving experience with fellow word nerds is an absolute joy.
I wouldn’t call myself a Swiftie by any stretch, but I am a KC Chiefs fan. When she and Kelce became an item, I started reading about her and was absolutely blown away by her accomplishments and well earned reputation for her generosity. Just an awesome human being!
First DNF in a couple years. NW defeated me, the obscure cluing reached some kind of critical mass in that area where I couldn’t find any purchase and had to give up.
@tht. I agree with you that GENDER EUPHORIA is a really nice answer but I think the clue, though colourful, was a bit weak. If I have to infer the answer's opposite (euphoria/dysphoria) to understand it, that should be hinted at in the clue. And I don't think it was. Don't get me wrong, I love the concept and the phrase is actually kind of musical rolling off my tongue Felt good when I filled it in from a handful of crosses. Lovely. But the clue was inadequate. As others have mentioned, getting a haircut or buying new clothes can spur a kind of euphoria, but it doesn't necessarily include gender identification. But it was "thought-provoking" and that's good.
GENDEREUPHORIA was not clued as a universal phenomenon ⸺ it specifically says "might". Incidentally though, there is an interesting discussion to have about whether it is experienced by everyone. I'm pretty sure that the underlying feeling is similar to when a cis-lady finds a very becoming dress, or a cis-gentleman gets swole at the gym for instance. It's less likely to achieve the level of euphoria, probably, because the good gender feels are closer to those people's baseline gender experience. And of course it's not consciously identified as related to gender because cis people in general do not think about how weird it is that, eg, mainly only women feel actualized in a becoming dress.
@Beezer. I'm not about to say "pfft" about this but I haven't seen winter yet. No snow, hardly any ice. I did "salt" the steps down to my studio and blow out the irrigation system (way back in early November). Last week I could have sworn it was still October. Temps in the 50 degree F range. (I think that's right; I work in celsius; 10 degrees out there.) Sunny. Weird. I feel for folks like Lewis who are prepping for a winter assault but I must say I'm confused by this. I want to overseed the north pasture with clover but I need a freeze-thaw cycle and some snow to get the seed to germinate. Might not happen.
It's just above freezing out there now so maybe winter is going to arrive after all.
This is a very long thread and I'm not going to try to defend Phil OCHS as an answer, or even a plausible name. But, in response to Anon 8:33, I have to say that I am no fan of his music - or of American folk music generally - but I still think Outside of a Circle of Friends is the kind of song that, in the 60s, really moved me and is, once again, worth a listen.
Phil Ochs is one of my favorite singers, with an unmistakeable rich velvety voice, destroyed by a mugger in South Africa who strangled him and damaged his vocal cords. He wrote protest songs, as part of the folk revival in the 1960s, some of which are hauntingly beautiful. Along with “Small Circle of Friends,” one of his more scathing efforts was “Love Me, Love Me, Love Me, I’m a Liberal.”
Of his less political ballads, my favorite is “Pleasures of the Harbor’ and the sentiment expressed in “When I’m Gone” has guided my whole, rather lengthy life.
Sadly, he took his own life far too early. RIP Phil Ochs.
@Anon 1:29PM. Apparently you're still not getting it. Of course Phil OCHS is very famous, and Charlie PUTH is also a crossworthy name. I knew them both and had no hesitancy filling in there. But if you don't know those names, then for all you know it might be OCOS crossing PUTO. From the perspective of someone who's stuck there, the extra knowledge that OCHS is in Wikipedia, and OCOS or OCTS or whatever as a last name isn't, is inaccessible, unless of course that person does a "cheat" and looks it up (they could even *suspect* that OCHS is most likely the correct choice, but they don't feel certain). And that's what Natick means. One man's Natick is another man's easy fill. I don't know why you're getting so bent out of shape over such a simple observation and then telling people to stop.
Maybe where you keep foundering is on the fact that Naticks are in the eye of the beholder. You and I didn't find it a Natick, but others did, and that's purely an admission about their state of knowledge at the time of solving. No amount of yelling at people that OCHS is in Wikipedia, and OCTS is not, will refute that self-reporting.
@Okanagener. Very similar here. Nary a flake and little rain. It's confusing me. When do I prune my apple trees? When do I overseed. Why doesn't the f**king weather just co-operate?!?
I recognized GENDER EUPHORIA once I had enough letters, but it took some work even when I had the EUPHORIA part. And before that, it was tough to parse because I had TRIO for TREY.
Agree with Anon disagree with THT. In Germany for the last 150+ years they have used metric so beer in a stein, which is a German container, should be liter or half liter or perhaps 33cl. If you want to point to an English volume measure use an English beer glass (nonic, tulip, mug, ...). IMHO a poor clue with an inapt "hint" (bier vs beer is irrelevant to clue).
Jacke - The clue was abstuse, i.e., difficult to understand, for many. That applies to many crossword clues. Doesn't mean that people don't understand the answer once they get it. And if a lot of people ARE "ignorant" as to how the answer matches the clue, it could be debatable as to whether it's a good crossword entry, Just sayin'.
Did not really enjoy this puzzle although I can appreciate the skill that went into its construction. So many names! PUTH, OCHS, SIA, ANA, ELLE who does the LSAT….Good deals at a CASINO are unlikely, TREY was weird as clued. I don’t like the word YEETED. I agree with Rex about ENDRANT
We asked my wife's sisters to perform two songs as part of our wedding ceremony and one was "Changes" by Phil Ochs. I love the opening lyric: "Sit by my side, come as close as the air." It was exactly what I was asking of my bride when I asked her to marry me. Also love "When I'm gone" by him. (The other song was Dylan's "I Believe In You.)
Well, it's undeniable that a stein might hold a pint, if that's the amount you've put into it. Of course they don't say such things in Germany, but may I gently suggest the clue might be trying to throw the solver off?
Whether that makes it a poor clue or at least "dirty pool", that's a separate question, and I think maybe you could make a good case that it is. I won't attempt to argue it's a great clue. In all such cases, I place the responsibility squarely on the editorial team at the NYTXW.
This gave me the Saturday workout I look for. I felt much of what @Rex felt but for whatever reason the solve didn't excite me quite as much. I'm not sure why, it's filled with top-notch cluing, great mis-directs and enough crunch to really make me think - I think I'm just worried about all the shoveling I'm going to have to do tomorrow... I'm not familiar with GENDEREUPHORIA but that's an important word to know now and the whole ENDRANT/WONT crossing eluded me. I didn't realize how clever it all was until I came here! I got it with a guess on the T cross but it didn't compute, my brain refused to see ENRANT as two words!?? The word play on vent is pretty genius. I'm kinda embarrassed to admit that I didn't know WONT either. I've actually used the word - "...as is his/her wont", but always thought is was a quirky way of using "want". Well, now I know. Actually, now that I'm writing this and looking at the grid, I'm more excited than I was at first solve. That's the beauty of crosswords and that's the beauty of coming here! Thanks Adrian and Ryan!
Went straight to Juggalos as a face-painted fan base. Didn’t consider Kiss Army as they go back to the 90s. Finally deleted it after several crosses wouldn’t work.
Now I know what Gender Euphoria is. Wonderful term. However, it has nothing to do with a new haircut or a new set of clothes. Why debut such a novel phrase then completely mis-clue it? The answer to 24-Across is clearly, 100%, no questions asked, SELFCONFIDENCE.
In regards to the cluing: first off, Will Shortz must be positively taken by the movie Legally Blond, given how much it comes up lately. As for the clue for "ENDRANT", as I ranted (I still haven't ended it) to my wife about the the clue NOT having a question mark, and proceeded to list all of the clues that DO have one, she remarked, "Is the theme dad jokes?" Well said.
A long time ago, I was solving this puzzle and got stuck at an unguessable (to me) crossing: N. C. WYETH crossing NATICK at the "N"—I knew WYETH but forgot his initials, and NATICK ... is a suburb of Boston that I had no hope of knowing. It was clued as someplace the Boston Marathon runs through (???). Anyway, NATICK— the more obscure name in that crossing—became shorthand for an unguessable cross, esp. where the cross involves two proper nouns, neither of which is exceedingly well known. NATICK took hold as crossword slang, and the term can now be both noun ("I had a NATICK in the SW corner...") or verb ("I got NATICKED by 50A / 34D!")
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Frustration? yes. Irritation? yes? "oh that's good"? nope. Bad puzzle
Easy-Medium, with most of the challenge in the SE.
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Overwrites:
@Rex creE before ERIE at 10D
I thought emo might be horn-heavy but 23A was that other three-letter genre, SKA
lOpS before MOWS at 34A
Wanted HALLOWEEN PArty at 48A but it didn't fit. Considered the possibility of a single-cell rebus.
ONLINE mArketS before CASINOS at 49A
WOEs:
GENDER EUPHORIA (14A) as a "thing" although it was easy enough to get from crosses.
Tennis player ANA Ivanovic at 17A
Charlie PUTH at 27D
Got the AVENGERS part of 42A but needed crosses for ENDGAME
I really thought they were called KISS Crew ( or maybe even Krew). That gummed up the works for me for the longest time.
Eloquent
Good start to my Saturday. I solved it quicker than my average Saturday by 3:30. So, easy-medium but I guess more on the easy side. Fun little puzzle and well-constructed.
Fun time all around. Daunting grid architecture with those huge isolated stacks but there are some footholds - overall well balanced. Rex summarizes most of the highlights - I liked the longish downs GETS WISE, DEPLORES, SHOWBOATS.
So DOGGONE easy
Seemed to get a little less strenuous in the lower half. Didn’t really know the term GENDER EUPHORIA and similar to the big guy figured “vent” had to do with heating or AC. STONE was well clued.
AFI
TURBAN seemed a little awkward and was looking for something dog related initially for “Afghans”. ESCHEWED x YEETED is all-time greatness.
The French INHALER
Highly enjoyable frigid Saturday morning solve. David Williams’ Stumper today presents a quite different grid layout with a huge center diagonal stack that is testy.
Black Diamond
SE corner was BRUTAL. Had aiRBuN before TURBAN (who know, maybe an airbun is a thing???), had CAtalog before CASINOS, night before PARTY, DENty before DENSE. SHOWBrAgS before SHOWBOATS (that was just dumb on my part). Couldn't remember the name of the AVENGERS movie for the longest.... the clue for TENPIN had me thinking about AC units.... and ENDRANT also took me forever. Finally got it from crosses, still didn't realize what it was about (just couldn't get myself out of HVAC mode today, I guess. My son works HVAC). Anyhow, great puzzle, mighty struggle, finished in the end, TADA, happy Saturday! Thanks, Ryan and Adrian!!!! : )
Agree with Rex that the cluing was great today. I will add “It may wind up at the top of one’s head” for TURBAN. I figured the trick immediately but guessed “beanie” — you know, those child hats that have a spinner at the top? I thought maybe you wind that thing up.
I had the ONL… for where to find good deals on the internet, and like Rex , I guessed it was about gambling. But my first thought was, “Does ONLy Fans have a gambling section?” I also had “emu” before PIG for “It’ll never fly.”
A nice challenging Saturday for once!
I've always felt that AVENGERS: ENDGAME should be the last film in MCU phase 3, and that Spiderman: Far from Home should be the first film in phase 4. But of course, it's not up to me.
Very good puzzle overall. Even having read the explanation, I don't get how the GENDER EUPHORIA clue relates to the answer.
For some reason, I kept putting the E from EUPHORIA as part of the previous word, so I was wondering how GENDERE EUPHORIA could be right until I finally came to my senses.
Loved seeing KISSARMY – RIP Ace Frehley.
Not as challenging as yesterday but still above average for a Saturday. What set this one apart was the west center segment. Changing WIND to WISE finally broke the dam for that little area
To finish I put in the final E of ELLE just because of YEETED. I don't care for this "slang" category of answer but it was fairly crossed. Only after I got the congrats did I actually remember who ELLE Wood was. I don't doubt this isn't the first time ELLE has been clued this way.
As a Chicagoan I can't help but think that the appearance of both the 2016 CUBs and PIGs that don't fly was a coincidence.
PUTH was an unknown but once again the constructors played fair by crossing him with OCHS.
Could not help but notice the stacked age regression from SENIOR CENTER to GENDER EUPHORIA to SECURITY BLANKET.
In my experience, I SAID STOP is at least as common an expression as "I said no."
Agree very much with Michael not only regarding the level of a Saturday challenge, but the way it is challenging - and the qualitative difference between a good Friday and a good Saturday challenge. The best Saturdays are not just harder; they are different-harder.
Oh, lots of digging and scraping, just what my brain hungers for on Saturday. Answers thrown in that have to be taken out. Opaque clues. Grinding hard, even with a grid of answers I’m mostly familiar with.
And here it was today. Plenty of forehead wrinkling. Tough, tough, clues, like [Practice] for WONT.
But also plenty of answers, such as PAPER THIN, ESCHEWED, MUNDANE, and SHOWBOATS, that made me smile and think, “Ain’t English grand?” Even an LOL moment, with [It’ll never fly!] for PIG.
Plus, the sweet memory of my son’s SECURITY BLANKET, which eventually looked like a lion had used it to sharpen its nails.
Also, respect. Sheesh – this is an uber-low 66-worder fully free of junk! This is an answer set freshened by 10 NYT debut answers, including the entire bottom three-stack.
Adrian and Ryan, this, your first collab, has been a paradigm Saturday, IMO – what a day enhancer! More please. I. Loved. This. Thank you!
DOGGONE it, Son, you surprised me with Waylon. I was expecting Buddy, maybe Linda, but not Waylon. That’s a new one on me!
Puth crossing Ochs? Two singers I had never heard of.
Administrative note. This evening, an ice storm lasting more than 20 hours straight will be rolling in, and it's quite possible communications will be disrupted. If I am away for a few days, that will be why. But, glass-half-full guy that I am, I greatly hope to return here tomorrow!
Pretty good puzzle but there's a glaring Natick at PUTH/OCHS.
Hey All !
AVENGERS: ENDGAME was the last film in the original run of MCU movies. The ones before were all origin/intro films, or the Team fighting various nefarious villains. Since Marvel Studios still wanted to make more money/movies, they dubbed that first set as Series 1. So, now the Marvels moving forward are different Series.
Had GENuinEEUPHORIA in first before getting some of the Downs. Made sense.
Puz was easy on the Saturday spectrum, but still had a one-letter DNF at ENtRANT/GENtER. Ah, me. Sure, made no sense, but what can you do.
Good puz, nice cluing, decent time (clock time, that is.)
Hope y'all have a great Saturday!
No F's - I SAID STOP 😁
RooMonster
DarrinV
Dad-blasted? Too soon!
I agree. The clue for GENDER EUPHORIA was very general. Everyone gets new haircuts and new clothes.
I really wanted JUGGALOS to work in lieu of KISSARMY; kept it in until I reluctantly filled SKA.
END RANT forever!!!!
I liked this a lot and mostly agree with @Rex. Never heard of YEET before. It has hate at first sight. But I know Phil OCHS. I guess a wide net for DEPLORES might include "regrets" but it usually means disapproval or condemnation. Siri, why is it so ****ing cold?
Well, the top played easy at least. Can't count the number of times Iv'e played at SENIORCENTERS, which I prefer to "nursing homes". And yes, these sets have included songs by Phil OCHS. GENDEREUPHORIA filled itself in, good thing, as it was news to me. Kept trying to parse ENDRANT as one word. Dumb.
The bottom, however, was a tale of two halves. AVENGERS something, HALLOWEEN something, ONLINE something., KISS something, and LOPS was jamming the vertical gears. MOWS eventually led to MUNDANE and TURBAN and things got straightened out. Good struggle.
I didn't think of ORE as Oregon even after it was filled in and wondered if it referred to 25% of national fOREsts bening the letters ORE. Guess not.
And hello Mr. PUTH, a surname I have never seen anywhere.
A worthy Saturday, AJ and RMC. A Jumble of Reasonably Mysterious Clues. Thanks for all the fun.
Phil Ochs. Way back when, my 8th grade teacher introduced the class to Phil's "Outside of a Small Circle of Friends" as a way of discussing (1960s) current events.
Well, very fun puzzle, but I don’t think venting in the sense of complaining can be called a vent in the same way ranting is called a rant.
I agree- hard to get started but great puzzle when finished.
What’s up with “practice” answered as “wont”? What am I missing?
I actually knew the Thor/Goat connection from the Marvel movies.
Rex, I humbly suggest calling a clue that doesn’t zag a Panenka, named after the soccer penalty kick technique where you just lightly kick it straight, assuming the goalie will dive to one side and the ball will trickle into the net.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panenka_(penalty_kick)
I should have expected a 4-star rating for a puzzle whose key answers were GENDEREUPHORIA, ENDRANT, and YEETED. What's crosswordese for YUCH?
I had an UNLIT tin unit until I lit lint in it.
Arts or tarts? It depends on whether you start with AORTA.
Naively out-of-date response when asked for voters biggest concerns: ISAIDSTOP?
Bet payoff required of Navy if they lose the big game next year? KISSARMY (or MENU as Hegseth calls it).
Did Charlie PUTH follow up on "We don't talk anymore " with "We don't talk about Bruno "? Or am I thinking of someone else?
You'll always win at ONLINECASINOS if you SHOWBOATS.
I'm in complete agreement with @Rex about every bit of this puzzle. Really top notch cluing underlying a junkless grid. A HOST of thank yous to Adrian Johnson and Ryan McCarty.
Steins are German containers for
Bier. In what universe is German bier measured in pints?
If you can’t even spell “yuck” I don’t know how to help you
This was totally me too.
On the hard side, I'll say. I wasn't quite as enthusiastic as Rex. For one, I really don't see anything lovable about YEETED. Nothing clever about it, and it doesn't sound like anything ("It's like the word for chucking something and the sound that you make when chucking something, simultaneously" -- no it is not). UGH, I say. (Which by the way I wasn't crazy for either, as clued.) AVENGERS: ENDGAME -- like we were saying yesterday, OH PUH-LEASE. I have never seen an Avengers movie and probably never will, and you expect me to be keeping track of this crapola?! Bad long answer.
SENIOR CENTERS: that didn't please Rex, but they're nice institutions because they offer a lot to people trying to live out their best lives. Don't knock them. GENDER EUPHORIA: that one I wasn't going to get without crosses, but it did make me reflect on its opposite, gender dysphoria, and how hard that must feel internally, and how most of the world doesn't get it, or get how a new hair cut or new clothes could bring on actual euphoria. SHOWBOATS: great word, great entry.
Got myself in some trouble with "ivy" before REC, and "lops" before MOWS. I came up with the band KISS, but allowed myself a cheat in getting to ARMY. Tricky cluing for WONT ("Practice") and for NEE ("Called on one's birthday?" -- nice). Took a while to cough up HOST for "Bevy" (both good words; another word for this that I seem to be using a lot these days is "raft"). Liked SECTIONAL and the way it was clued.
So, all in all it seemed to be a proper Saturday. Overall I liked it, in spite of some annoyances reported on above.
Phil Ochs and Marvin Gaye (the subject of the Charlie Ruth) song intersect in the lyrics of "The Day," a deep cut from They Might Be Giants.
Fun fact: Winter Olympics has the same number of letters as HALLOWEEN PARTY. Ask me how I know.
Yes, according to Miriam Webster, an "airbun" is what you're left with when you grab at someone's tush but they pull away in time.
Me when the puzzle has no issues whatsoever but I dislike it anyway
Really struggled with this one. Just couldn't tune in to when I should chase the misdirect and when I should just stay straight. Thrilled when some longs went in easy and then stumped by lots of the short fill. Ended up being the kind of puzzle that just proves to me i'm not quite there yet. Lol, actually tired me out. I have gotten good enough to appreciate a puzzle like today and not just skip it, but not good enough to enjoy a satisfying victory. Someday.
I think YEET should be yeeted from the language. Each time I read it, I say “Yeesh, this word again.”
Same. I fully expected to run the alphabet and was surprised when my first guess of H got the happy music, especially since I had one other square I wasn't sure of (NEE crossing ORE). 100% Nattick imo.
What other letter works for OC_S? OCHS is a recognizable last name. Inferable. Not a true Natick.
As a noun, “wont” is defined as “a usual manner of behaving” … or practice
Airbun cracked me up but it DOES sound like it could be a hairdo!
wont
/wônt,wänt,wōnt/
nounFORMAL•HUMOROUS
one's customary behavior in a particular situation.
"Constance, as was her wont, had paid her little attention"
OCHS may be a fair cross for some but he died before I was born and was a total WOE for me. Naticked by that cross with PUTH.
Betting I’m not the only one.
Enjoyed the puzzle but that cross annoyed me.
The choice of emu cracked me up too! (See above “airbun”). Hey, I had wrong initial answers, but very boring ones! I’d prefer to have my wrong answers to be funny!
Definitely a Natick.
It’s a last name - SEVERAL letters work for OC_S:
OCKS
OCTS
OCES
OCUS
any of those seem just as plausible as OCHS to me. Never seen any one of them.
Is there something more to “Four minus one” for TREY that I’m missing? Seems like such a weak clue that it’s almost too easy and that’s what makes it tricky?
“Split component”: started with BANANA. Still like that answer more!
Keep warm @Lewis! Yes, I know you are in one of the ice areas. People I know keep texting me about storm and I say “pfft” we’re just getting snow…worry about people from central Kentucky on down!
Some people have steins in their own homes. My dad had one. A pint seems a reasonable quantity to have in one's stein as one is socializing with friends at home. Whether or not it's German beer sitting in the vessel, or whether you spell it "bier", seems irrelevant.
This puzzle had an usual combination of fill that made it feel somewhat quaint (WONT. ESCHEWED, DOGGONE), fill that was completely unknown to me (PUTH, YEETED), and fill that felt tired (ELLE Woods, again).
Some of the cluing seemed off; I think of DEPLORES as indicating strong dislike rather than regret, and I really don't understand how GENDEREUPHORIA relates to its clue (what does gender have to do with it?). But some of the cluing was clever, like that for INHALER and CUB. All in all, I enjoyed this Saturday morning solve.
I really had to work to get this one. But I enjoyed the effort. WOES = TURBAN. PUTH (although anything "Marvin Gaye" is fine with me),
Really liked GENDER EUPHORIA, KISS ARMY & your review today, Rex.
Thank. you, Adrian & Ryan for a good Saturday work-out :)
I’m seeing a photo of Marvin Gaye with the caption “Dad-blasted”. I realize that the caption refers to the song … but it seems in poor taste considering the singer was shot and killed by his father.
To make sense of GENDER EUPHORIA, it might help to set it against gender dysphoria, in order to imagine how something that might seem so quotidian like getting a hair cut can take on an entirely different significance for someone who has suffered from gender dysphoria. I thought the clue-answer pairing were great, and also thought-provoking.
On the tougher side for me (about 1.3x my average Saturday time), but similar to Rex, I liked it overall: a good kind of tough. I had many more initial guesses that turned out wrong today than usual (I'm probably forgetting some, but I had WEAK SAUCE for a flimsy argument instead of PAPER THIN; BANANA instead of TEN PIN for the 'split' clue; B_ER for 'stein contents' [wasn't sure if they'd use the German or English spelling, but "knew" one of the two had to be right!], and HOUNDS instead of ASIANS for Afghans). Like an earlier poster, I was pretty sure the Olympics would factor into the 'skeleton' answer; for what turned out to be GENDER EUPHORIA, I thought it was going to be a generational thing (e.g., GEN XER EUPHORIA) until I finally got END RANT figured out!
@Anon 9:57AM. "Natick" is invariably a subjective call. Consider how the term came into being: Rex couldn't come up with the initial N. in N.C. Wyeth that crossed the N in Natick. And yet N.C. Wyeth is certainly a widely recognized name, inferable to many but not to all. So I think "true Natick" carries about the same status as "true Scotsman".
Liveprof: Hilarious!
I think there's a large segment of puzzlers who consider OCHS very familiar, and another who consider PUTH very familiar. Unfortunately, you're in a smaller segment that knows neither, I think.
Quickly threw in METAT and MENU and thought this one would be easy. So wrong! To move on had to look up DISPEL and then grind through the rest except for another look-up for SKA. And at the end, had YEyTED instead of YEETED, but didn’t really matter since neither is familiar to me. Think this is a good challenging very themeless puzzle with some tough proper names but very little crosswordese, at least IMHO (did I get that right?).
"She arrived at the concert an hour early, as was her wont."
Four star puzzle and write-up; one of those rare days when both bring mutual joy. Only unfortunate aspect was PUTH crossing OCHS; I see some here knew one, which I guess by definition makes a cross "fair". Had PUT_ and humorously considered Putz, but Oczs wasn't happening. OCHS just seemed more likely; lucky guess.
Delayed appreciation for the clue for TURBAN; it may "wind up"...outstanding.
Did you read Rex's write-up to understand the many things to appreciate in the puzzle? Often I dislike a puzzle initially but then come to appreciate it after reading his comments. That's why he's OFL.
Funny! And good guess, actually.
There were so many ways to go wrong on this puzzle and I found a few. Obviously you get "Bier" in a stein. A horn-heavy genre is going to be "bop". Knocking off the top is going to be "lop".
Yet I overcame all of these in spite of having never heard of ANA or Charlie PUTH (and being really shaky on OCHS). I loved the clues for END RANT and SECURITY BLANKET. Some great words like DISPEL and MUNDANE, DOGGONE and TURBAN.
I got a real workout today so thanks, Adrian and Ryan, for a fun Saturday puzzle!
While solving I was annoyed by things I just did not know, like PUTH and (as clued) SKA. But everything was fairly clued, and it all came together at the end, with lots of Aha! reaction when i finally parsed a clue correctly. I was trying to decide if "Main" was the German river or "principle" when I got HALLOWEEN PARTY, and saw the AHO_, which had to be AHOY! i.e., main as in ocean. That gave me YEETED without my noticing it -- though when I finally did I realized we had seen it before.
Before coming here I was telling myself that the group would be divided into those like me who'd never heard of PUTH, and those who knew PUTH but never heard of OCHS, but I see there were many who'd never heard of either. Just remember, while Charlie doesn't talk anymore, Phil doesn't march anymore.
I think YEETED is an ugly, unneeded word.
At first I put in JUGGALOS, which frankly would have been more interesting. Has that ever made it into a puzzle??
Strong disagree, this was an excellent puzzle. Took me about twice my average time, hugely satisfying to finally see the gold star appear.
NO letters work but H.
OCHS is a name. OCTS (lol) is not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochs_(surname)
Played medium for me. Enjoyed the tricky cluing. Fun stuff!
There are many who have heard of both 🖐️
Same!
I pretty much felt the same about @Rex about the puzzle, but it was north of “medium” for me, but the kind of puzzle I like…filled with clever cluing and me starting out feeling that I will inevitably cheat, then getting eurekas and toe holds that allow me to finish. Loved it.
So I said “allowed to finish”…nope, not really. I was CONVINCED that ENDRuNs were the “means for closing a vent.” I convinced myself that a vent could be a sports term in football…or something, but I was still left with the improbably uNA and WONs. After checking the puzzle I did a big D’OH and admired the cunning clue for WONT because it’s my won’t to admire cleverness.
Thanks Dorian Johnson and Ryan McCarty!
I was beginning to dislike the NYT puzzles.Then along came yesterday’s and today’s.Both were wonderful (even with a natick today).👏🏻👏🏻
Same. The only sticking point for me.
Medium sorta? The bottom third and the NE were actually pretty easy, but the rest took some effort, especially the NW. I’ve never heard of GENDER EUPHORIA and END RANT took a while to see and parse partly because ANA was a WOE and I went through much of the same thought processes that @Rex did. I also had Aero before ANTI for way too long which was a very costly erasure…tough corner for me.
Ass before ANT was another costly erasures and PUTH, THOR, and ORE were also WOEs.
Light on junk with more than a hint of sparkle and some fine tricky clueing, liked it.
Ocas, Ocus, Ocks...
I read ENDRANT as one word, couldn't figure out what I'd done wrong, then the puzzle told me I had successfully solved and I still didn't understand so I came here.
Expected a comment on that clue for MOWS - I don't think of blades as knocking anything.
Ditto on AVENGERS: ENDGAME. It's even worse than the Star Wars/Trek nonsense.
Didn’t understand this one either
Dije que parara.
Wow. Terrible. Started with METAT ended with YEETED and nobody could possibly have written a more obtuse clue for GENDER EUPHORIA. Over and over cringy cluing trying (I think?) to be clever. Super fast solve while hoping over and over the answer it seemed to be couldn't possibly be, but yet it was.
Looking forward to Sunday.
❤️ SHOWBOATS. KISS ARMY. Dad-blasted.
People: 8
Places: 1
Products: 4
Partials: 3
Foreignisms: 2
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 18 of 66 (27%)
Funny Factor: 5 😄
Uniclues:
1 What most people wish I'd do sooner rather than later.
2 Did it yerself fancily.
3 Hates the right-winger.
4 One taking a deep breath while trying to stay positive about every puzzle.
5 Seeing the Mississippi river while being sea sick.
1 END DOG GONE RANT (~)
2 TIE-INS ESCHEWED
3 DEPLORES TEN PIN
4 MUNDANE INHALER (~)
5 SHOWBOAT'S PERK (~)
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Take roommate to the tanning spa. RETINT COTENANT.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Those are not human names please stop
3 days without a Star Wars clue
Never heard of YEETED (what's the etymology of that monstrosity, anyway?) and it never occurred to me that SECTIONAL could be anything but an adjective, so 12-down was a WOE, as well. Flummox'd out on PUTH and ELLE, also.
Fun time waiting for the storm
Great, challenging puzzle with just the right amount of difficulty for a Saturday and fun, colorful clues and fill. These days, sad to say, the KISS ARMY may be spending a lot of time in SENIOR CENTERS. I’m sure there’s some SHOWBOATing involved, and maybe the makeup is helping them experience GENDER EUPHORIA. Good for them!
As a lover of the Knights Who Say “Ni!”, I say “Ni!” to “Yeet!”
Thanks for the "main" explanation, I solved the puzzle, but couldn't solve that clue! I knew Ochs (by reputation only), but not Puth.
I hadn't heard the phrase before either, but it makes sense as a concept. Hairstyles and clothes are strongly tied to people's perception of gender roles, enough so that it's very common for people to be teased or even bullied for not having the "right kind" for their gender. Even though what counts as "masculine" and "feminine" has changed drastically over the centuries!
So for people who maybe grew up teased for their style choices to finally boldly and confidently wear them -- it must feel good.
Some of them are "human names", even if rare. And it's not a convincing argument that they're not, merely by inspection of your own head. It reminds me of the often-seen lament "that's not a word!", when a trip to the dictionary shows otherwise.
“Halloween party” didn’t fit? It for in my grid 😇
This puzzle took me about four times the usual amount of time to solve, and at least half of it was spent in the lower right section. But I finally threw in ENDGAME out of desperation and it unraveled.
Perhaps @Bob Mills is referring to YUCH as in his crossing YAPERTHIN.
Enjoyable Saturday. Never heard of YEETED. Thought the series of 23 films was James Bond at first. Too many MCU films - lost interest years ago.
I'm from Corvallis but now live in Portland. It's hard to believe that statistic about Corvallis. I did immediately get the Oregon answer.
What @Beezer said. Light snow at my house this morning, maybe 2 inches at this point with potentially 5 to my 9 more forecast. But I’ll take that over even a quarter inch of ice. Stay safe, both of you.
UGH definitely made me go UGH. So, so tired of the OOHs and the AAHs and the UGHs that can be clued by any human emotion the constructor feels appropriate.
Late today after sweeping a snow path for the dogs and battening down the hatches. So far, so good but I have a feeling it won’t be that easy by this time tomorrow. Puzzle was very tough for me, but I cast aside all pride and finished with what I tried to make a minimum of cheating.
14A has generated one of the more interesting discussions this week. I experienced that myself recently. I had already had my hair cut and nails done for a special occasion when something came up which could have potentially postponed it. But after a short period of angst, the show went on and all was well. I had not wasted my money after all and the hair and nails were fabulous. Now that that’s GENDER EUPHORIA.
I wrote in GENDEREUPHORIA off the clue and ...R_A so I disagree about it being abstruse. It seems a number of people complaining about that clue in this thread do not know what gender euphoria is and are translating their (perfectly understandable) ignorance into a criticism of someone else.
Agree with airBUN as a hilarious, but very real thing that thanks to you @Rick Sacra now has an official name! Kind of like “air quotes.” My daughter (and now also granddaughter) is and always has been obsessed with hairdos. In junior high, she even did a book report on a tome that described and had instructions and pictures for how to construct famous hairdos. Always one who, a bit like her own mother, talks with her hands, she is WONT to demo the twists, curls, plaits or an airBUN or two as she describes her latest idea before making the inaugural attempt.
Wow a great challenging Saturday; halfway through I thought "no way I'm gonna finish this" then gradually built up traction.
Lots of typeovers; probably the funniest was COW before PIG. I swear, somehow I thought the expression was "when cows fly". And that made 32 across O STOP STOP for a while.
Not too many names but a few short Unknowns: SIA ANA PUTH. And again today, why such a contrived clue for ORE, which is a perfectly acceptable word all by itself.
And we still have no snow and none in the forecast! The last snowfall was 1 cm (0.4") on Dec. 4. Only 1.3 mm of rain so far this month -- that's about 1/20th of an inch. Never seen anything like it .
I wanted EMU or MOA. I've seen that clue before, with a flightless bird as the answer. But PIG is good too.
Fun to solve, with some whipsawing between "Is this is going to be another too-easy Saturday?" (an immediate SENIOR CENTERS) and "Yikes! Am I looking at a DNF?" (the SE corner), with plenty of enjoyable clue pondering in-between. Finally getting END RANT felt particularly rewarding (after I'd gone through END RuNs (hi, @Beezer) and END RiNg (relative of an O-ring?). Special tip of the hat to that SE corner - what a bear! And such good answers - and clues (TURBAN!).
GENDER EUPHORIA was new to me as a phrase but immediately brought to mind the photo of someone very dear to me after they'd gotten their first haircut that matched their gender identity - the most joyful smile ever.
I noodled out the whole of the south and the contained swath below TARE and SKA. The problem was the north and edge-northwest, where I had enough filled in to form a working base—namely METAT, ITT, ASIANS, SIA, STONE, PERK, and PIG. But I also had four badly placed wrong answers that were plausible and, with the exception of 20D, solid and defensible:
29A, beer/bier not PINT
5D, trio not TREY
7D, muffler (expels the intake) not INHALER
20D, aero not ANTI
While “aero piracy” is absolutely a thing, it’s more often called “air piracy,” so I should have been more skeptical. But one can see how this state of affairs made figuring out the rest extremely difficult, and indeed, at one point I had backed out of PIG, STONE, and PERK. Cats and dogs living together: I was in trouble.
What sealed my DNF were two clues that, in my opinion, were iffy and dang wonky, respectively. The iffy clue was 14A, in that GENDEREUPHORIA was clued as a universal phenomenon when, in fact—need to be careful here—it is something very few people ever experience. And while the term may be more widely discussed now than it was in the past, it still does not reach far enough into the lived experience of most American generations to warrant such bare cluing. I’m aware of the book, so I feel reasonably confident that a nod in the direction of the transgender community would have made this appropriately gettable, at least for me.
TREY for 5D, however, was just dang wonky. I rarely make such a claim, but this is one where I feel like I have the goods. A TREY is a three-point shot in basketball in most contexts. It can be used as a cutesy, slangy replacement for “three,” sure, but so can lots of things. Consider hypothetical answers for the question, “How many ya want?”
Tree: as in, “Johnnycakes? I can make do with, oh… tree, four, ten… you know me, ayuh, and extra Moxie in m’joe this time.”
Twee: as in, “Hello Kitty cookies? Twee? Pwee… zuh?”
TREY: as in, “Gatorades? Yeet me a trey, cuz.”
Valid, but not nearly standard enough to make sense as a NYT xword clue. TRIO, meanwhile, works. How many are you? Right now, four… but in an hour we’ll be minus one, so that would make us… A trio? Yup. And amigos forever, we’ll be.
Predictably, none of y’all are Swifties, or you would’ve gotten PUTH much more easily. From The title track to The Tortured Poets Department: “You smoked, then ate seven bars of chocolate/we declared Charlie PUTH should be a bigger artist”
Thanks to my strong background in 60s singer-songwriters (thanks, dad!) I had no trouble with Phil OCHS either.
@tht that is condescending baloney. There is a Wikipedia entry on the surname OCHS because it is a real surname. Famous people have the name. The former owner of the NYT was an OCHS. You cannot name a single OCTS. You all are mad because you don’t know one of two very famous people. That’s a you problem, not a puzzle problem.
On the question of what a "true Natick" is, since I grew up in the next town over, Natick would definitely not have been a true Natick. for me. So yes, subjective! : ). I know Phil Ochs name.... but perhaps mainly from crosswords!
Honestly, I am surprised that I finished this without cheating. I saw those two bylines and nearly YEETED (I despise that word!!!) my tablet across the room. Either of them can flummox me. In a collaboration, I feared failure. But, perseverance to the rescue. I am happy as a clam to have a challenging Saturday though, but honestly feel (a bit like the good @Gary J) that these two very able constructors were occasionally trying to outdo each other with impossible clues.
Sad that OFL knocked the SENIOR CENTERS. It got me into the north half nicely. The stacks are just gorgeous, and the puzzle is a true Saturday.
But honestly, today’s highlight and huge laugh thus far is the airBUN (above, with the folks who rise early). Being able to share the solving experience with fellow word nerds is an absolute joy.
I wanted "banana" too! when "Outdoor unit" wouldn't fit.
I wouldn’t call myself a Swiftie by any stretch, but I am a KC Chiefs fan. When she and Kelce became an item, I started reading about her and was absolutely blown away by her accomplishments and well earned reputation for her generosity. Just an awesome human being!
You realize that if you keep using Imperfect Subjunctive some will think you're just showing off.
I SAID STOP
Think you meant to write PARade…I had the same problem for a moment
First DNF in a couple years. NW defeated me, the obscure cluing reached some kind of critical mass in that area where I couldn’t find any purchase and had to give up.
@gregmark, hands up for TRIO. And TREY is also used in cards and dice, I think.
@tht. I agree with you that GENDER EUPHORIA is a really nice answer but I think the clue, though colourful, was a bit weak. If I have to infer the answer's opposite (euphoria/dysphoria) to understand it, that should be hinted at in the clue. And I don't think it was. Don't get me wrong, I love the concept and the phrase is actually kind of musical rolling off my tongue Felt good when I filled it in from a handful of crosses. Lovely. But the clue was inadequate. As others have mentioned, getting a haircut or buying new clothes can spur a kind of euphoria, but it doesn't necessarily include gender identification. But it was "thought-provoking" and that's good.
GENDEREUPHORIA was not clued as a universal phenomenon ⸺ it specifically says "might". Incidentally though, there is an interesting discussion to have about whether it is experienced by everyone. I'm pretty sure that the underlying feeling is similar to when a cis-lady finds a very becoming dress, or a cis-gentleman gets swole at the gym for instance. It's less likely to achieve the level of euphoria, probably, because the good gender feels are closer to those people's baseline gender experience. And of course it's not consciously identified as related to gender because cis people in general do not think about how weird it is that, eg, mainly only women feel actualized in a becoming dress.
I hate autocorrect! I did NOT mean won’t. :(
@okanaganer I’m sure @whatsername would be happy to sends her snow up your way…
@Beezer. I'm not about to say "pfft" about this but I haven't seen winter yet. No snow, hardly any ice. I did "salt" the steps down to my studio and blow out the irrigation system (way back in early November). Last week I could have sworn it was still October. Temps in the 50 degree F range. (I think that's right; I work in celsius; 10 degrees out there.) Sunny. Weird. I feel for folks like Lewis who are prepping for a winter assault but I must say I'm confused by this. I want to overseed the north pasture with clover but I need a freeze-thaw cycle and some snow to get the seed to germinate. Might not happen.
It's just above freezing out there now so maybe winter is going to arrive after all.
For Anonymous 10:53: Sometimes I agree with Rex, sometimes I don't. I won't apologize for having a mind of my own. This is a blog, not a think tank.
This is a very long thread and I'm not going to try to defend Phil OCHS as an answer, or even a plausible name. But, in response to Anon 8:33, I have to say that I am no fan of his music - or of American folk music generally - but I still think Outside of a Circle of Friends is the kind of song that, in the 60s, really moved me and is, once again, worth a listen.
Phil Ochs is one of my favorite singers, with an unmistakeable rich velvety voice, destroyed by a mugger in South Africa who strangled him and damaged his vocal cords. He wrote protest songs, as part of the folk revival in the 1960s, some of which are hauntingly beautiful. Along with “Small Circle of Friends,” one of his more scathing efforts was “Love Me, Love Me, Love Me, I’m a Liberal.”
Of his less political ballads, my favorite is “Pleasures of the Harbor’ and the sentiment expressed in “When I’m Gone” has guided my whole, rather lengthy life.
Sadly, he took his own life far too early. RIP Phil Ochs.
@Anon 1:29PM. Apparently you're still not getting it. Of course Phil OCHS is very famous, and Charlie PUTH is also a crossworthy name. I knew them both and had no hesitancy filling in there. But if you don't know those names, then for all you know it might be OCOS crossing PUTO. From the perspective of someone who's stuck there, the extra knowledge that OCHS is in Wikipedia, and OCOS or OCTS or whatever as a last name isn't, is inaccessible, unless of course that person does a "cheat" and looks it up (they could even *suspect* that OCHS is most likely the correct choice, but they don't feel certain). And that's what Natick means. One man's Natick is another man's easy fill. I don't know why you're getting so bent out of shape over such a simple observation and then telling people to stop.
Maybe where you keep foundering is on the fact that Naticks are in the eye of the beholder. You and I didn't find it a Natick, but others did, and that's purely an admission about their state of knowledge at the time of solving. No amount of yelling at people that OCHS is in Wikipedia, and OCTS is not, will refute that self-reporting.
@Okanagener. Very similar here. Nary a flake and little rain. It's confusing me. When do I prune my apple trees? When do I overseed. Why doesn't the f**king weather just co-operate?!?
I recognized GENDER EUPHORIA once I had enough letters, but it took some work even when I had the EUPHORIA part. And before that, it was tough to parse because I had TRIO for TREY.
Not a fan of using INtake in a clue for INHALER.
Agree with Anon disagree with THT. In Germany for the last 150+ years they have used metric so beer in a stein, which is a German container, should be liter or half liter or perhaps 33cl. If you want to point to an English volume measure use an English beer glass (nonic, tulip, mug, ...). IMHO a poor clue with an inapt "hint" (bier vs beer is irrelevant to clue).
Isn't 99+% of slang unneeded, since we already have the actual word or phrase? Slang operates to determine who is in vs who is out.
I had WOWS for quite some time, slowing my solve significantly
Bob, you know you can "Reply" to your own post . . . that way your comment will be nearer to the comment you're responding to.
Jacke - The clue was abstuse, i.e., difficult to understand, for many. That applies to many crossword clues. Doesn't mean that people don't understand the answer once they get it. And if a lot of people ARE "ignorant" as to how the answer matches the clue, it could be debatable as to whether it's a good crossword entry, Just sayin'.
Did not really enjoy this puzzle although I can appreciate the skill that went into its construction. So many names! PUTH, OCHS, SIA, ANA, ELLE who does the LSAT….Good deals at a CASINO are unlikely, TREY was weird as clued. I don’t like the word YEETED. I agree with Rex about ENDRANT
We asked my wife's sisters to perform two songs as part of our wedding ceremony and one was "Changes" by Phil Ochs. I love the opening lyric: "Sit by my side, come as close as the air." It was exactly what I was asking of my bride when I asked her to marry me. Also love "When I'm gone" by him. (The other song was Dylan's "I Believe In You.)
Well, it's undeniable that a stein might hold a pint, if that's the amount you've put into it. Of course they don't say such things in Germany, but may I gently suggest the clue might be trying to throw the solver off?
Whether that makes it a poor clue or at least "dirty pool", that's a separate question, and I think maybe you could make a good case that it is. I won't attempt to argue it's a great clue. In all such cases, I place the responsibility squarely on the editorial team at the NYTXW.
This gave me the Saturday workout I look for. I felt much of what @Rex felt but for whatever reason the solve didn't excite me quite as much. I'm not sure why, it's filled with top-notch cluing, great mis-directs and enough crunch to really make me think - I think I'm just worried about all the shoveling I'm going to have to do tomorrow...
I'm not familiar with GENDEREUPHORIA but that's an important word to know now and the whole ENDRANT/WONT crossing eluded me. I didn't realize how clever it all was until I came here! I got it with a guess on the T cross but it didn't compute, my brain refused to see ENRANT as two words!?? The word play on vent is pretty genius. I'm kinda embarrassed to admit that I didn't know WONT either. I've actually used the word - "...as is his/her wont", but always thought is was a quirky way of using "want". Well, now I know.
Actually, now that I'm writing this and looking at the grid, I'm more excited than I was at first solve. That's the beauty of crosswords and that's the beauty of coming here!
Thanks Adrian and Ryan!
I just saw that Avengers: Endgame is playing right now on TBS.
Egs another top notch post
Went straight to Juggalos as a face-painted fan base. Didn’t consider Kiss Army as they go back to the 90s. Finally deleted it after several crosses wouldn’t work.
Before I had KISSARMY I had “juggalos” — same number of letters, same possible answer to the clue, same weird subculture vibe.
Now I know what Gender Euphoria is. Wonderful term. However, it has nothing to do with a new haircut or a new set of clothes. Why debut such a novel phrase then completely mis-clue it? The answer to 24-Across is clearly, 100%, no questions asked, SELFCONFIDENCE.
Parts of West Eugene are further west than Corvallis (Oregon) and Eugene has more than 50,000 inhabitants. Nice try, Beavers
In the immortal words of Blaine and Antoine, "HATED IT!"
In regards to the cluing: first off, Will Shortz must be positively taken by the movie Legally Blond, given how much it comes up lately. As for the clue for "ENDRANT", as I ranted (I still haven't ended it) to my wife about the the clue NOT having a question mark, and proceeded to list all of the clues that DO have one, she remarked, "Is the theme dad jokes?" Well said.
I knew the Charlie Puth reference from Taylor Swift’s song, “The Tortured Poets Department”!
You devote your life to music all so people commemting on a puzzle 60 years later can claim you were a nobody. Arg.
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