Website with a "Conservadox" option / WED 11-12-25 / It keeps you in the dark / Pixelated, informally / Beer brand discontinued in 2010 / Nickname of the "Love Yourself" singer, with "the" / Grocery aisle enticement / Steve of "Battle of the Sexes"
Wednesday, November 12, 2025
Constructor: Brad Wiegmann and Nicole Wiegmann
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
The "EYE" answers:
I can't say this isn't original. But I also can't say that I enjoyed it. The actual solve (you know, the thing you spend your time doing) was not entertaining. I'm being told there's an OPTICAL ILLUSION but I can't see it, so that's a meaningless claim to me and thus not a fun answer to get. AMBIGUOUS FIGURE is somehow worse, because it doesn't even feel like a real phrase. Big "Green Paint"* vibes. And scattershot circles? I couldn't see what they were supposed to be doing and I didn't care. I kept looking briefly at the letters to see if they spelled anything, but that's obviously not what I was supposed to be doing. Still, I doubt if I would've kept stopping mid-solve to check how the "alphabetical order" was shaping up even if I had registered that "alphabetical order" was the organizing principle. The one enjoyable thing about the puzzle was discovering a surprise rebus square! It was like the theme all of a sudden did something interesting. But that moment faded and I was still left with a mess of circles I didn't know what to do with. Even DUCK and RABBIT weren't any help, as those words didn't have proper clues (since I couldn't see the image, I had to get them completely from crosses). It was only upon completion of the puzzle that my software went "ta da!" and showed me the image I was supposed to be seeing (or supposed to draw if I was solving on paper (?)). And yeah, that was an "aha" alright, but not one that *I* discovered in the course of *actual solving*.
What else?:
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld
- 37A: It keeps you in the dark (EYE MASK)
- 30D: Late-night host Seth (MEYERS)
Thomas Kyd (baptised 6 November 1558; buried 15 August 1594) was an English playwright, the author of The Spanish Tragedy, and one of the most important figures in the development of Elizabethan drama.
Although well known in his own time, Kyd fell into obscurity until 1773 when Thomas Hawkins, an early editor of The Spanish Tragedy, discovered that Thomas Heywood, in his Apologie for Actors (1612), attributed the play to Kyd. A hundred years later, scholars in Germany and England began to shed light on his life and work, including the controversial finding that he may have been the author of a Hamlet play pre-dating Shakespeare's, which is now known as the Ur-Hamlet. [...]
Evidence suggests that in the 1580s Kyd became an important playwright, but little is known about his activity. Francis Meres placed him among "our best for tragedy" and Heywood elsewhere called him "Famous Kyd". Ben Jonson mentions him in the same breath as Christopher Marlowe (with whom, in London, Kyd at one time shared a room) and John Lyly in the Shakespeare First Folio. The Spanish Tragedy was probably written in the mid to late 1580s, with its first recorded performance on 23 February 1592 by Lord Strange's Men. The earliest surviving edition was printed in 1592, the full title being The Spanish Tragedie, Containing the lamentable end of Don Horatio, and Bel-imperia: with the pittifull death of olde Hieronimo. However, the play was usually known simply as "Hieronimo" after the protagonist. It was arguably the most popular play of the "Age of Shakespeare" and set new standards in effective plot construction and character development. There were "twenty-nine performances between 1592 and 1597" and "eleven editions between 1592 and 1633", which the historian J. R. Mulryne states is "a tally unequaled by any of the plays of Shakespeare". (wikipedia)
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Getting from the beginning to end of this puzzle was a genuine slog. The fill is remarkably poor, at least in part because the theme puts a *lot* of pressure on the grid—four themers, a *lot* of fixed letters strewn about (in circled squares), and a rebus square. If you wanna see what extreme theme pressure does to fill, just look at that SW corner, oof. ACR MAA BRB BIEB and (aptly) UGLI. Because AMBIGUOUS FIGURE and RABBIT are set in stone down there, there's almost no wiggle room in the intervening answer (CARELL), and so ... you get what you get (a mess). CELLI into III over AAS into ACER was when the pain first registered. ADAY followed. I was listening just yesterday to the latest episode of "Crosstalk" (Daniel Grinberg's crossword podcast), and the guest was Aimee Lucido. When asked about the kind of fill that she hates and tries to keep out of her own grids, one of the things she mentioned was Roman numerals (check) (III), and another was four-letter "article + three-letter-word" partials (check) ("A DAY"). I don't think either of today's examples of these answer types is particularly egregious, but they're part of a weak-fill onslaught that includes EUR LORES ENEWS etc. This puzzle lacks any interesting non-thematic fill, and the thematic fill isn't inherently interesting to begin with. In short, this puzzle exists solely to get you to the picture. And the picture is neatly executed, no doubt. But man I did not like what it took to get there.
What else?:
- 1A: Protection from an infection (SCAB) — figured this was something you did or purchased (something in the "vaccination" or "Band-Aid" realm), not a thing your body does by itself. Needed crosses here for sure.
- 14A: Accusative, for one (CASE) — I think only pronouns have an "accusative" case in English. Me, him, them—those are all accusative (used when the word is an object of a verb or preposition). I, he, they—those are in the nominative case (used when the word is the subject of a verb).
- 49A: Grocery aisle enticement (SAMPLE) — baffling. Aroma? S... SALE AD? I've had many a SAMPLE at grocery stores, but aisles are too narrow to accommodate the SAMPLE distribution. I think of SAMPLEs as being handed out at the ends of aisles or in more open-flow parts of the store.
- 55A: Beer brand discontinued in 2010 (BUD ICE) — one way to know if you should delete a beer brand from your word list is if it was discontinued in 2010.
- 63A: Steve of "Battle of the Sexes" (CARELL) — of all the things I know him from, this is not one of them.
- 5D: Beverage sometimes served with cucumber sandwiches (TEA) — did Big Cucumber write this puzzle (11D: Unlucky "Wheel of Fortune" purchase for COOL AS A CUCUMBER = AN "I")
- 25D: Website with a "Conservadox" option (JDATE) — "a niche online dating site aimed at Jewish singles" (wikipedia). This is the seventh NYTXW appearance of JDATE, the second this year. It first appeared in 2016.
- 53D: Pixelated, informally (LO-RES) — my last square and I just stared at it: LO-ES. I thought I had an error somewhere. I could tell that "R" was gonna have to go there, but my brain was like "what are LORES and what do they have to do with pixels?" But no, it's just the awkward-looking and seldom-used hyphenated compound adj., LO-RES.
- 55D: Nickname of the "Love Yourself" singer, with "the" (BIEB) — hey, if you'd never heard of "Love Yourself" and you ended up writing "BOSS" in here at first, please know that I was right there with you. "The BIEB" refers of course (of course?) to Justin Bieber.
*”Green paint” = an answer made up of weak adj./noun pairing. TALL WOMAN, for instance, is green paint—it's certainly a phrase one might say, but it doesn't have enough coherence, conceptually, to be a good crossword answer.
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154 comments:
Medium Wednesday, pretty much what I'd expect for a difficulty level. But as OFL said, a slog. Most of my trouble came in the SW.
Overwrites:
55D: BeEB before BIEB
60D: bAA before MAA
WOEs:
Playwright Thomas KYD (46A)
I vaguely remember BUD ICE (55A) but I needed every cross. My brain really wanted it to be BoDICE
ACR as a counterpart of down (59D). I guess it's in ACRophobia or ACRopolis?
I know Steve CARELL but I didn't know he is (was?) on something called Battle of the Sexes (63A)
Boy - this was brutal - Rex covers most of it. The connect the circle concept is totally useless to me - an afterthought to the construct and secondary to the solve.
They Might Be Giants
AMBIGUOUS is apt for this grid - the oddball rebus was interesting at least but there’s not much else here to like. FROGS, OBSCURE maybe?
Caitlin Cary
Wednesday - I hardly knew ya. @Liveprof from yesterday - I’m a Yankee fan so wasn’t so interested in either the Dodgers or Jays but the Alex Vesia story was absolutely gut wrenching.
Mike NESS
Hard to believe this sorry excuse for a crossword puzzle got past the censors.
If the figure is a duck then the two prongs on the left are his bill and he is facing left. If it’s a rabbit then those two prongs are his ears, which means he is facing right. And that’s the optical illusion. Yikes!
I found this puzzle delightful! The rabbit-duck illusion goes back to the 1800s, and I recognized it right away. The ‘eye’ part was my favorite, and the last square I completed.
More about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion
Worcestershire sauce followed by Sriracha sauce. What next, Tzatziki sauce?
I’m glad somebody’s a fan of one random rebus square, but it ain’t me. Last square in, and I thought maybe Bruno’s cousin Seth MARS used A MASK to block light. I knew MEYERS, but not the spelling. Thankfully the puzzle accepted my desperate E (MERS? EMASK?) and I could get on with my life. Not a big fan of the solving experience.
I liked it and thought it was clued very originally. Even if it may have been sponsored by Big Cucumber.
different kind of Wednesday and I liked it. I actually got a pencil and paper to draw out the figure. If I ever put in BOSS for a song called Love Yourself I'd have to hand in my Jersey card. The Patron of Sailors I had STEL - - and I was thinking STELla? Loved the graphics at the end and the one square rebus was brilliant. Hey, this was a great puzzle for a Wednesday.
Perhaps I missed an indication of a rebus, but otherwise A MASK seemed fine, and if you don't know late night hosts, MARS looks just fine, too. And that’s what I ended up with.
If you have to have roman numerals, III is a pretty legit one. It's not like MCIX, where you get a clue like "sixteenth century date'.
Random thoughts:
• Haven’t seen this illusion in a long time; didn’t remember it until it appeared and -- BOOM! -- elicited a huge smile.
• Pair of DOOKS – LORES and STELMO.
• The EYE was a happy surprise to figure out.
• Fun fact: If you turn the grid 90° to the right, it’s also a rabbit.
• I bet the most incredible moment for the constructors was when they discovered that theme answer DUCK’s C and D could be incorporated in the drawing.
• The image is so blasted cute! How cute? It rivals this uber-cute grid: https: //www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=3/16/2022 (warning, this grid has the answers filled in).
I came to the grid neutral, Nicole and Brad, and left it with a warm heart at learning you are father and daughter, not to mention aflutter with joy from the explosion of cuteness you created. What a lift – thank you both!
Here is the image in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion
Didn’t get lo-res until Rex dissected the clue/answer. No enjoyment here.
Hey All !
Interesting puz. Wasn't able to grasp how the image was coming about, but solved away, figuring once I got one of the Revealers, I would know what the puz was talkin' 'bout. Got RABBIT first, then was able to recall the AMBIGUOUS FIGURE in my mind. Aha, says I, and then hoped the website would draw it in once finished, which it did. Nice.
As Rex mentioned, you got a lot of stuff (set in place Themers) to work around, thereby getting the fill into iffy territory. But I would say it was handled pretty good.
Knew it was EYE MASK, but the ole brain couldn't get to the Rebus for some odd reason. Threw in an I, came here to check what I had wrong, and saw the Rebus. Head slap.
So, it was a connect the dots puz (with actual letters in order, A, B, C, etc), with an image of either a RABBIT or a DUCK, including an EYE as an actual EYE, plus two 15 grid spanners. Dang! That's a lot of stuff! I forgive the closed off West and East center sections. 😁
And a Rooster in the clues. Har.
Have a great Wednesday!
Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Ugh. This is one of those “there’s no there there” puzzles that the Times runs occasionally but you rarely see in another major publication. Sure, it’s a feat of construction, but it is a lot of work for really not much of a payoff. And boy did it land with a thud for me when I realized that I worked that hard only to be enlightened with AMBIGUOUS FIGURE. That’s it ? Seriously?
Obviously, I think Rex summed this one up pretty well. Hopefully, a fair number of people stuck with it and enjoyed it. Stunt puzzles just don’t do it for me as a rule, and this was no exception to that generality.
The north side went speedily because once I had the first 4 down there was an obvious OPTICAL ILLUSION. Then DUCK appeared so I knew a RABBIT could not be far behind. Thinking, but if I hadn't seen the book when I was teaching I would not know this.
Anyway, technical DNF because of the EYE rebus. I thought the host might have been Myer (?) but DORITO and ROADSTER took care of that, so then I needed something in front of mask, A MASK? MARS?
Should have connected the dots ; maybe would have seen the EYE...
Oh wow this comment is how I’m realizing that clue was “BUD ICE” — I got it with crosses and just assumed it was some Czech beer I never heard of called “Budice” 😅 (like bood - ee - chay)
I put just an E in for the first circle in mask, and got the jingle! No indication there was or had to be a rebus in the puzzle.
Do you not actually read the blog?
I *think* there was supposed to be a circle for the rebus square but it didn't show up on my app, so I'm sitting there thinking wow that's odd that there is another Seth in late night that has such a similar name. I finally realized that it was eye. When you finish the puzzle and the outline of the duck/bunny shows up, there is suddenly a circle around eye. I imagine this was more of an error with the app. Curious if the printed puzzle had a circle for the rebus square.
Not to nitpick, but that's 1106 (12th century)
Same here. Single rebus square, what are you doing here on a Wednesday?Come back tomorrow, or better yet, don’t come back at all.
Here's that link to the uber-cute puzzle (don't know why it didn't linkify!): https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=3/16/2022 .
Awful. A real slog, as Rex says. Only one rebus square with no hint of a rebus before that. Hand up for having MARS crossing aMASK. Could not figure out who the Seth guy was to save my life since MEYERS didn’t seem to fit. Also the BIEB (had forgotten all about him) ugh. Jack PAAR, really old-time trivia. And the beer. And the Super Bowl ad. I didn’t know (or care) about any of those.
Such a joy. Now that NYTimes has the technology to draw us pretty pictures, we don't have to worry anymore about the quality of the puzzle and its capacity to engage us in an interesting challenge. Oh no we don't. Because we have computer gimmicks to amuse us. And isn't that, after all, why we do the puzzle?
Absolutely terrible! Like Rex said, just awash in awful fill.
@ Annoymous 7:19 I too finished with AMASK/MARS. When your puzzle is already that bad why not just throw in a random rebus.
Bieb/Budice seems like the definition of a Nattick.
Neat-o! A classic who gives a crap puzzle. Like I’m sure this felt like a fun challenge to construct, so at least one side of the deal got enjoyment out of it, but a slog and a half to solve. The NYT seems more interested in graphics and interface antics than putting out puzzles that are engaging to solve. People who do the crossword are generally interested in being surprised, challenged, entertained by words and clues, not graphics and hokiness.
I really don’t have any faith in the editorial team there these days. Just feels like a quick slide into mediocrity that has no end in sight.
ACRoss
First of all, I loved havnig SCOFF in the puzzle right off the bat—what a great word! I thought the puzzle was pretty darn cute. The final connected image could definitely be either a duck or a rabbit, and I love the EYE. The puzzle makes me think of spring, and since it's c-c-c-cold here in the east, that's a welcome thing. Thanks for the fun Tuesday, Brad and Nicole!
I like it better, seeing how good of a xword approximation this is of the original 1892 drawing linked by others. It also makes the OPTICALILLUSION make some sense. I give it points on the Nancy scale of “someone came up with another puzzle that hasn’t been done before”.
Hands up for knowing BUD ICE, but not being able to make it 2 words while solving. Also hands up for trying to rack my brain for a game show host and not even recognizing Steve CARRELL for who he is, even though I remember him all the way back to his pre-Office Daily Show appearances.
I think it's ACR as in ACROSS.
This puzzle needed WITTGENSTEIN—who has a famous riff on the duck-rabbit image—as an answer to earn my respect. Well acquainted with the image already, I knew how this puzzle would end early on, yet I still got held up on the single rebus square, questioning my knowledge of late-night hosts and staring at LORES trying to see if I’d made a mistake as I couldn’t see it as two abbreviated words at first.
I genuinely paused to wonder if the DORITOS Super Bowl clue was SponCon
I forgot about St. Elmo, too, and started with Stella. But I knew BESO wasn't Besa, so I worked it out.
You might remember BUD ICE because it’s still being sold. Bud Ice LIGHT plus Bud Dry were discontinued.
Sorry for the diversion. somehow I lost my ability to print a puzzle from the New York Times app. I have access to the NYT website but when I open the crossword on that site, it immediately goes to the games app. This is on my iPad and iPhone using Safari. If I open it up on my desktop using chrome all is OK but looking for portability.Any help would be greatly appreciated. OK resume normal programming
Solving this cutesy puzzle made me feel like I was in the sixth grade. But I have to admit the resulting grid art was pretty clever. Imagine my surprise though, when today I learned BUD ICE was discontinued in 2010. I wondered how that could be since I just saw a display of it at the grocery store yesterday. Turns out it was the less popular Bud Ice Light and its partner Bud Dry which got the axe.
Agree about the rebus. I knew Seth Meyers was a late night host but figured there was just a OBSCURE one I’d never heard of.
Feeling like the guy in Mall Rats who couldn’t see the sailboat :-/
Bud dry was discontinued not Bud Ice
Since nobody has commented on 60-Down yet (MAA for "Billy bawl?'), I'll jump in. MAA? Is that a word now? I've heard of BAA, which is the sound sheep make, so I thought that must be it, which left me with AMBBEGUOUS as the start for 59-Across, since I confidently wrote in BEEB as the nickname for Justin Bieber. Finally got it figured out but I don't see a duck or a rabbit. Looks more like the uglier stepson of a Cybertruck
Clever, but annoying. Not used to having rebus squares on a Wednesday, so it took putting it down & coming back to it
I filled in the grid pretty easily (I needed to Google LORES to see LO-RES). I connected the circled squares correctly on my printout but didn't see a RABBIT or a DUCK. Wordplay didn't help. Thanks to Rex for the clear outline in blue this morning. The only plus in the puzzle for me was the EYE being part of both the DUCK and the RABBIT.
I quit the moment I got to the connect-the-dots instruction.
Too cute. Did not enjoy. Ripped up halfway through. One of the worst puzzles the NYT has published.
What does ACR mean? Not a football fan so I had Dominos instead of Doritos. Did not get EYE!
Apparently this illusionary drawing has been around for over a hundred years, so we probably all have come across it at one time or another. However, I might just as well have been wearing an EYEMASK. Trying mentally get the picture doing this online was too tough for me—might have worked better if a line appeared between each consecutive circled letter as they were entered. As for the eye, I know enough about late night TV to recognize the name MEYERS, but not enough to fill in his name without a cross or two. Anyway, neat feat of construction to hang on the wall.
Back from exploring the great state of NM with a Roads Scholar tour, which left not much time for crosswording and even less for commenting. Have to say that I was hoping for something a little less sloggy upon returning.
Started in the NE and the downs led to OPTICALILLUSION right away which provided numerous toeholds and a feeling that this would be easy. Ended by picking away at the bottom --couldn't parse LORES,, didn't know CARELL as clued. Worst was the section with the eye rebus, SAKS? JDATE? My bad for not recognizing Seth Meyers, who is from NH. Actually used the alphabetical order to get the J and K in that little problem area. At least I'm familiar with the RABBIT/DUCK illusion, although my paper copy did not light up or anything. Oh well.
Impressive feat of construction of construction, BW and NW, not a Big Waste of time but also Not Worth the effort. Thanks for some fun anyway.
(Addendum to my previous comment.) I'm reading the just-published memoir by Anthony Hopkins. Fascinating stuff on making Silence of the Lambs. It's one of three movies which won the five major Oscars (picture, actor, actress, director, screenplay). It Happened One Night and Cuckoo's Nest are the others.
1109
Add me to the “what the hell” pile as this was absolutely brutal. Too many OBSCURE proper nouns and weird clues. What a strange Wednesday.
This puzzle gave me an inspiration for a complex dish I could make for Thanksgiving. It uses a rabbit stuffed inside a duck inside a flounder. I can't decide what to call my Flounder -dUCK-rabbIT dish, so let me know if you have any ideas. Of course, this very joke may get me once again sent to the non-published corner (which is pure hell, let me tell you). So please also let me know if you don't see this.
And what, might I ask, is a HERON doing in this DUCK/RABBIT puzzle? Maybe if you turn it upside down?
Will Shortz has to run 365 puzzles per non-leap year. I greatly admire and enjoy his willingness to run occasional submissions that may involve some strained fill in order to do something different. It's like getting a bag of DORITOS when you've been ingesting potato chips for days on end. I liked this puzzle because it's cute and different (so am I if you drop the cute part). Anyway, thanks you to Will and to Brad (the Duck) Wiegmann and Nicole (the Rabbit) Wiegmann.
I made the same error, and solving on paper I did not get corrected.
But what does "Green Paint*" mean? Inquiring minds...
Birders know all about LORES, it's the space between the eye and the bill. Might be a little OBSCURE for non-birders, though.
I didn't bother trying to draw the picture; I guess it might have helped me see the rebus, but maybe not. Since the puzzle already has AN I and A DAY, A MASK seemed plausible.
I did like the mini-theme of famous plays.
Not to nitpick a nitpick, but it's 1109. ; )
Bud Ice Light was also dropped but I don’t feel that makes the clue any any less wrong.
Brenda?
I agree with many that connect-the-dots was tough to visualize on a digital puzzle, but I loved the novelty of the puzzle. I knew what the drawing would have to be as soon as I saw the clue for DUCK (what some people think this puzzle's image represents). From that point on I figured the inability to trace the dots was a consequence of not doing the puzzle on paper, but that was on me.
Battle of the Sexes was a movie about Bobby Riggs vs Billy Jean King. Carell played Bobby Riggs.
Okay, this is a wildly common optical illusion, to the point that I thought it was just common knowledge. I'm shocked at how many people struggled with that.
Son Volt, I presume?
These sorts of illusions are apparently called "ambiguous images" OR "reversible figures," according to Wikipedia. Not "ambiguous figures," as the puzzle suggests. Combining two separate words from two separate terms doesn't a valid crossword entry make.
Thanks for explaining LORES. I DNF, I had spelled SAKS as SAcS, recognized a probable brand name as DOmInOS, no idea about hs sports -VS or Orthodox Jewish dating sites (I was looking for conservative S&M porn), even managed to spell HuRON wrong crossed by some sports person
Thanks for the book recommendation. I’ll make it a point to find that one.
Yes, I had "a MASK" and when I hit reveal for that square because it was shown as wrong, an E filled in and I was completely at sea. The unexpected rebus got me because I don't watch talk shows.
I solved online so when it came to connecting the dots, I made a diagram on paper and it came out pretty close to that on the grid. But without that EYE, it was merely duck-like and the rabbit wasn't inferable. (Why is auto-correct underlining inferable? M-W shows it as the correct spelling.)
Thanks, Brad and Nicole, for an ambiguous solve on a Wednesday!
I finished in about 8 minutes and then spent another 30 minutes trying to figure out my error. My error was not seeing the rebus on a Wednesday in the middle of a proper noun. I of course thought it might be Meyers, but "A MASK" worked for the across clue, so I assumed their must be a SETH MARS I had never heard of. After all, I'd never heard of the OBSCURE JACK PAAR and there he was, lounging at 23D. Overall I agree with Rex: the juice was not worth the squeeze on this absolute slog.
MAA, along with bleat, is a common expression if the sound a (Billy) goat makes. maa:goat::moo:cow
Totally agree with Rex on this one: I liked the DUCK/RABBIT theme conceptually, and I enjoyed the surprise rebus (which took me ridiculously long to find; I kept on thinking “But…MEYERS doesn’t fit! What other late-night Seth is there?!” which should have tipped me off), but the fill was a drag throughout, including the theme answers. Not a fun solve, but I really enjoyed the reveal (and as a younger solver who starts struggling in the mid-week, I did start to trace the image while solving to help me with the circled letters, unlike Rex, so I was puzzling the reveal throughout).
The one way I enjoyed the puzzle more than Rex, especially since it included the discontinued BUD ICE that I’ve never had: DUCK RABBIT happens to be the name of one of my favorite local craft brewers, as a North Carolinian. I don’t drink stouts as much as I used to, but DUCK RABBIT is fantastic. So even if product advertising wouldn’t normally get a smile from me, the fact that the puzzle ended up reminding me of an obscure but wonderful local craft beer known only to North Carolinians was a warm spot in this otherwise drag of a solve.
Glad to help you. Rex explains it here (see the paragraph on BEIGE paint).
I recommend that Rex put this in his FAQ, since it is in fact frequently asked. I'm in love all over again with his number 16 on the current list, which applies at least a dozen times per day (e.g., yesterday's grievance, subsequently removed, about the rank of Forrest Gump).
I’m a psychologist who taught a class in Perception for many years. It’s an ambiguous figure, not an optical illusion. Those aren’t the same.
I’m surprised at the number of folks who seem bewildered by the reference to the duck/rabbit illusion. In the world of optical illusions, this is a classic and often used as an example.
In the world of crosswordese, sheep generally say BAA and goats say MAA.
I always come here (Rex's Blog) to see what Rex rates the puzzle. Then I shut it & go on my own way. When I saw today's "visual" it just annoyed me & I decided not to do the puzzle. I've never done that before. If I'm annoyed at the start, that's not a good sign :(
I've already lost my streaks & there are other things to do - although maybe not as much as I enjoy the xword but I'm going to pass today. Maybe my loss. Dunno ...
Across. Counterpart of down in a crossword puzzle.
Fascinating! And that history does add a whole new perspective and validation to the concept. Thanks for that!
When I get far enough in a puzzle to realize it’s an annoying one I check Rex’s blog to see if I’m alone and am rarely disappointed. This one wasn’t fun to do.
Umm, well, maybe. But maybe not. It was Monday easy except for a few squares in the east. Junior Varsity (JVS) is not a term that I’ve used a lot in my life. I just played for my high school team. Simple as that. And JDATE was totally unfamiliar to me. I take it it’s a Jewish themed dating site and “Conservadox” has something with degrees of orthodoxy.
Yeah, okay.
Knew Seth MEYERS but I just didn’t expect a single rebus in the puzzle so I thought for a moment that I couldn’t remember how to spell his name. When I finally squished EYE into a single square and changed eVS/EDATE to JVS/JDATE and the congrats came up with the dumb picture, I just said okay, good night.
On to Thursday.
I stand with those who abhor computer graphic stunt puzzles. This is not why I solve and, although I had no trouble with it, I experienced no joy in seeing the grand revelation. Especially when it served as a tradeoff for clever cluing.
Yes, if you search for the Vesia story, you will find a photo the Vesias posted with their note. It shows their hands with Sterling's little hand. But brace yourself; it's extraordinary.
I blame the senate. This puzzle was fine. It was a Wednesday puzzle with a lot of theme, as Rex said. If the NYTXW includes circles to be connected with lines, they need to update the app with drawing capability. I could tell there was going to be something sticking out like rabbit ears, but imagining the whole image was too much. It was nice to see the unmarked rebus, which confirmed my rabbity guess, but making the lines appear after completion usurps the solver's role. Update the app, NYT.
Well said. It’s a shame that they are emphasizing style over substance. The puzzles (and we who solve them) are worse off due to that decision.
Some of us are getting MCIXED up on our dates.
You have really outdone yourself today. That first paragraph is brilliant.
I am going to take ACR as an excuse to repeat a joke I made up a while ago.
How many XW solvers does it take to change a light bulb?
Nine: 5 down and 4 across.
Medium. It took me a while to realize there was a rebus square.
WOEs - FROGS, KYD, and LO RES, JDATE, and DORITOS (as clued).
Costly erasure - geO before ISO
I’m glad the app connected the dots otherwise this would have been even more of a slog. I didn’t dislike it as much as @Rex did, but I have to agree with much of his take on this one.
I think Rex summed up today’s puzzle quite nicely. The only thing I felt good about was the fact that I figured out the EYE rebus.
Also, I decided I wanted to see (again) the “rabbit or duck” illusion. The term AMBIGUOUSFIGURE was used in several results. This is NOT to say that the term sprang to my mind when doing the puzzle. On to Thursday!
To get one thing out of the way: I did not enjoy this, this child's restaurant paper placemat of a theme. My powers of visualization are not sufficiently vivid to have mentally connected the dots while staring at the puzzle online and go, "oh yeah -- neat!" So the software had to do it for me, and the result did not charm or gladden my heart. As for difficulty, it was firmly divided between the almost childish triviality of the upper half, and the annoying sluggishness of the bottom half, connected through two little (EYE)holes in the middle. So I'll split the difference and call it a Medium.
As noted by a growing number of commenters, BUD ICE is in the 1% set of exceptions to number 16 on Rex's FAQ list, where the NYTXW editors ERR. Me? I didn't know -- my lips never touch Budweiser in any form, not for some decades now. Still being sold, discontinued in 2010, whatever -- it's all the same to me. Swill with a skanky aftertaste.
LO-RES: took a while to parse that one. Plural of lore? Or somehow connected with Lorem Ipsum, which is sort of in the same ballpark of how a design will strike the EYE? And then: oh. Awkward, yes, I agree with you Rex.
I didn't know that ESAU was Isaac's favorite. I see something mentioned in Wikipedia about this being asserted in the Muslim tradition. About all I do know is that Jacob was his brother, and that ESAU was red and hairy. Reading more about this now, Jacob sounds like he was kind of a jerk to his brother.
I do not agree there's anything wrong with "Accusative, for one" (CASE). How this applies to English is beside the point. If you study Latin for instance, then the "accusative CASE" will come up. So I'm not sure why Rex brings up English particularly.
That's all for now -- see you later.
Thanks for that link
Oh, I meant to link to Rex's FAQ here but then forgot. Here.
Agree completely, Kathy. A crossWORD puzzle is a test of one's vocabulary, and one's familiarity with history and popular culture. This was a crossDIAGRAM puzzle, or a crossIMAGERY puzzle. And using one isolated rebus makes it a crossMISLEAD puzzle.
The square that got me stuck for a good 5 minutes at the end was the cross between Love Yourself singer and Steve Caroll. Could not see Justin Bieber there. Was sure Steve's last name was Caroll. The BIOB couldn't be right, but ambiguous had to be right so it couldn't be the BLOB.
I did not realize that "one" in "Accusative, for one" was a pronoun.
Did no one notice the snafu on 57 down? Jacob was Isaac’s favorite son, not Esau. Am I crazy?
This was a very pleasant diversion while drinking my coffee. The theme was clever and actually helped my solve. I solve on paper and the drawing supported my J and gave me the K. The way it should be. Thanks.
Also, would have been a lot quicker if I'd realized the connect-the-dots squares were in alphabetical order A-N
I met a woman on JDate once. Yadda yadda yadda, we’ve been married for 19 years and have two kids.
I've never said "TSK" in annoyance & disappointment at a NYT puzzle :(
Your last comment made me realize why CASE came easily to me…I took Latin!
I suspected a connect-the dots theme right away when I got the circled F and G in the NW. With OPTICAL ILLUSION and DUCK in place, I knew I was looking for a RABBIT, but that didn't help with the FIGURE part of AMBIGUOUS FIGURE.
The area with the J, K and surprise rebus all squeezed close together was the only actually tough section for me. Vague clues on what turned out to be [EYE]MASK and simply MEDIA, and two crossing brands that as a non-American I knew, but not as clued. In fact, DOMINOS was my first guess at 39A.
JVS and JDATE both rang a bell, but that crossing is... something. At the very least it won't get anyone Naticked because of the theme.
I wanted a nickname for Eminem at 55D. Then I re-read the clue and saw that it was "LOVE Yourself", not "Lose".
Rex, do you know that this is an actual incredibly famous optical illusion? The way you wrote about it, it seemed like you thought it was just a random idea the constructor had, instead of an incredibly classic illusion. I was surprised that you didn't include a picture of the actual illusion in your write-up!
What about 15 across ERR? Shouldn’t it have been EAR?
I think you're misunderstanding the clue. The "for one" means "for one of the cases." In other words, "What are the cases? Accusative, for one."
I had been under the same impression somehow, but I did spot in Wikipedia how Esau was the Isaac's favorite at least in the Muslim tradition. Hmm... My vague impression (however ill-founded) was that Esau was the uglier and less enterprising of the two, but my biblical knowledge is a bit scanty, let's say.
A rabbit by any other rotation is still a rabbit.
Plant a rabbit, get a rabbit.
Not an outright laugh this time, but definitely a smile. :-)
Instant flashback to the Wiggles. I can just picture Wiggle Greg chiming in, "and the rooster goes cockle-doodle-doo!" (you supply the Australian accent).
Agree with Rex
The clue literally states it's in alphabetical order!
Kinda different puztheme, what with connect-the-dots, optical illusions, and single optical rebus square. Liked that.
After I finished up the puzfill, I drew lines with my pencil, but couldn't see much. All them pesky black squares kinda got in the way. Shoot, 5-long black-square lines, runnin thru the pencil-art.
sooo... it ducked my detection by a hare. Mighta helped, if I'da used a red-colored pencil.
Anyhoo, I came here to find out what I was missin ... soooo ... thanx, @RP.
staff weeject pick: EYE. Single rebus squares are pretty day-um rare in xword history, right? xword history maker, perhaps!?
Primo weeject stacks, NE & SW. har -- U can sorta tell how extra-hard this puppy was to construct, just by EYE-ballin them weeject stacks:
NE: ANI-ISO-NON.
SW [M&A's fave]: ACR-MAA-BRB. wowzers.
some fave stuff: (EYE)MASK. SRIRACHA spellin challenge. BUDICE [gave m&e hope that TRUMPICE may someday get dis-continued]. OBSCURE crossin AMBIGUOUS.
the no-knows: JDATE. BUDICE. CSU. ENEWS. Not too formidable a list, thankfully. This WedPuz fell short of bein a slog, at our house. Many precious nanoseconds lived to tick-off another day.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. & Mr. Wiegmann darlin & dude. And congratz to Nicole on her half-debut. Liked that the Duck got to suck up SRIRACHA, while the Rabbit munched on DORITOS. Always good to give yer pets some treats.
Masked & Anonymo9Us
... this little pup will no doubt reverberate thru xword history, as well ...
"Bit of an Echo" - 7x9 12 min. themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Ugh, I'm sorry, I just hated this puzzle. When I got all the circled squares, I took a screen shot into paint and drew the lines. Saw nothing (of course I didn't have RABBIT yet). Didn't get the rebus. Very annoyed by all the names. Got fed up, quit and clicked "Reveal complete puzzle"... it's been ages since I've done that.
And the names!... did I mention all the stupid names? In the bottom 4 rows alone we have CARELL BIEB BUDICE ESAU FDR EUR MEGAN ENEWS NESS.
Big Cucumber is my new band name.
I wondered the same thing. But Genesis 25:28 says "Now Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison; and Rebekah loved Jacob."
One of the definitions of fluff is “fail to perform or accomplish”, similar to muff or ERR.
Today's puzzle was a hot mess. The random, out of the blue REBUS says it all.
Great, another Wednesday gimmick. The authors get to show how creative they are and I get to pay for it with acr, maa, brb, bieb.
@tht. Re: BUD ICE. Not a fan either but, it has its place. I played beer league hockey for a number of years and for each game one of the players was tasked with dragging in a cooler full of beer for the post-game wind down. It was often Bud (or Coors Light, or even the execrable Corona). Not good beer, but refreshing after a tough game. I could accept that. Welcomed it, in fact.
One night I decided to step outside the lines and bring a case of local craft brewed "radler" - basically a lager flavoured with citrus, in this case grapefruit - but, in this case, not too much of it. I hedged my bets by also supplying a case of Molson Canadian. I was surprised to see how quickly the weird beer disappeared. Anyone who wanted seconds had to be content with the unremarkable Molson product (just slightly better than Bud).
As others have mentioned, Bud Ice was NOT discontinued. I still drink it from time to time.
No circle in my paper version
17A tells you to connect them in alphabetical order.
This one went slow at first, then explosively fast, then slow again at the end. NW corner was hardest for me, and I think I’m in the minority there. The first thing I put there was TONE for “accusatory, for one”, and I held on to that for far too long.
Definitely a lot of slop fills to accommodate the theme, and I agree the theme doesn’t do anything until the software gives you the drawing at the end. I suppose if I was on paper I could’ve drawn as I went along. But I understood the duck/rabbit aspect of the theme far before I got enough alphabetical letters going anyway.
I kinda hate the rebus. I got it immediately, I think the authors figured Seth mEYErs was a huge gimme, and that’s sorta fair. But then I was panicking the entire rest of the puzzle that there would be more rebuses (rebi?). I knew the whole concept of the duck/rabbit image, but it had been a while since I’d actually seen it, and I couldn’t picture it. I was sure that there was another spot that acted as the other animal’s “eye”, and I was sure it’d be another rebus. I forgot they share an eye! But I also thought there might be EAR, NOSE, etc.
Anyways, made the rest of my solve much more stressful.
What a contrast between puzzles. Today we get 41 black squares and so many theme constraints that there's precious little room left for anything else of interest. Hard to breathe life into the resulting slew (41 also) of three and four letter entries. Looks like an exemplar of a theme dominant puzzle. Not my favorite kind.
Yesterday there were only 30 black squares---extremely low number for a themed puzzle---and a modest theme that left lots of room for interesting words crossing one another. Looked like an exemplar of a balance between theme and fill. Sign me up for more of those.
To follow up on Anon @10:21, I'm long retired now but when I was still in the talk and chalk trade, my favorite course to teach in the psychology curriculum was Sensation and Perception. An AMBIGUOUS FIGURE is a visual stimulus that has more than one equally possible interpretations. The DUCK-RABBIT is a classic example. Often the perception will spontaneously reverse even though the actual stimulus remains the same. They are sometimes referred to as "reversible FUGUREs". The Necker Cube is a classic example.
The DUCK-RABBIT AMBIGUOUS FIGURE is, however, not an OPTICAL ILLUSION. (I see this mistake on several web sites, including wiki.) An ILLUSION is a misperception or misinterpretation of some stimulus. For example, a vertical line intersecting a horizontal line of equal length will be seen as the longer of the two. One of my favorites is the Run for your life illusion. I've seen this many times but one monster still looks much bigger (or smaller) than the other. They are the same.
Truly terrible. I knew the gimmick but never even got the EYE rebus (absolutely no indication that one of the circles was randomly a rebus), I just tried every vowel until one was accepted.
the eternal mystery of ny times puzzles how one day they can be this god awful and the next a joy - this was as bad as it gets really horrible
Are you sure it accepted E? For me I believe it accepted I. I couldn't make heads of tails of it and tried every single vowel there.
¿Es demasiado arriesgado? ¿Me atrevo?
I am very glad they drew the duck/rabbit line for me or I doubt I'd have understood what the heck was happening. I am delighted there was one lowly rebus square hanging out by himself.
Otherwise this is a wreck.
😵💫 Tubular.
😩 LO-RES.
People: 13 {not worth it}
Places: 1
Products: 6
Partials: 8
Foreignisms: 3
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 31 of 78 (40%) {🔔 We're ringing the gunkometer today mainly thanks to some highly unfortunate cluing. Maybe it's the price we pay for duck and rabbit.}
Funny Factor: 3 😐
Tee-Hee: [Stiff.]
Uniclues:
1 Amphibians afloat.
2 One way to get a smoking hot look.
3 Chips for one on a diet ... and the answer is no.
4 Fifteen year old's plea for a first car.
5 Drunk standing on one leg.
6 Those keeping their arses to themselves.
1 ST. ELMO FROGS (~)
2 SRIRACHA EYE MASK
3 DO I DARE DORITOS
4 URGES ROADSTER
5 BUD ICE HERON
6 OBSCURE BRITISH (~)
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: What the American electorate successfully allayed for the next four years. JACK ASSES OUTAGE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Didn't like it either. Can't really connect the dots on my tablet. Seems to me that an optical illusion and ambiguous figure are different things and this line drawing was at best ambiguous. Optical illusions are images that use light, color, and patterns to deceive the brain. Ambiguous figure is a visual stimulus that can be interpreted in more than one way, such as an embedded figure or a reversible figure.
I've never seen It Happened One Night and I love old screwball comedies, His Girl Friday is a fav I was neve a fan of Silence the acting seems way over the top and many plot points are unbelievable. Liked the book OK.
Made me think of Duck Rabbit milk stout. The brewery has closed, unfortunately.
They apparently changed the clue for BUD ICE - everyone who is saying that it still exists!
@Les. Yep, familiar with all of those, including Radlers which are popular in parts of Europe and can be refreshing. (I agree: I'm not quite sure why Corona is so wildly popular.)
My very first drink was a sip of Rolling Rock when I was five years old, and I still remember that heady feeling. I'll still have a Rolling Rock every now and then; to this day it occupies a place in my heart. Not exactly robust, but to me it tastes clean without an annoying aftertaste, and absolutely, on a hot summer day there are few things that can top a cold brewski like that.
Didn’t try to suss the figure other than guessing the animals. Somehow I got it all right, even the rebus. I felt like the broken clock at the good time of the day.
I really loved this puzzle - solved on paper so had to draw through the dots to get the picture. Totally missed the EYE rebus - thank you Rex for letting me know. It was the eyecing in the cake! I had just assumed there was a Seth Mars! There were many names I didn’t know but I only had to look up SAKS. A very clever and thoughtful puzzle.
The only clue I had to look up for a hint was 14 across. I googled “accusative in grammar” without knowing why. It must be because I took Latin for one year in 1963. I was very confused by 53 down because I am a birder (knew the word lores) and also because of the puzzle highlighting a duck - I figured it had to have something to do with a bird. I thought this puzzle was enjoyable and challenging. It took me some time, but I got everything except 14 across and the rebus without help.(Like others, I had AMASK and the mysterious Seth MARS.) So I would say this was probably a good puzzle for an older person struggling with instant recall like myself. (Mon, tues, wed and fri solver.I always enjoy the puzzle on these days and I always learn something new.)
Todd B
I disagree about BIEB & BUDICE cross.
Bieber has been around quite a while and for much of that time hugely popular with young women and girls. . Not my demographic, male boomer here. But that’s irrelevant. Bieber’s nickname is not obscure Even the Arts section of the Times covers him. . (Rex invented the word natick : the cross of two objectively obscure for most people names at an uninferable letter) Bud Ice Bud is not a n obscure brand. I actually got __UDICE and what else could go there than a b? Not knowing the crosses does not = natick. Some people call it a personal natick.
@Beezer. Entering middle school in the 7th grade, we had to select a foreign language to study. We had on offer Spanish, French, German, and Latin. I chose Latin because my best friend at the time chose that one. :-)
To this day I'm divided with myself on whether that turned out to be a great choice! In view of my later professional life, French or German would arguably have been better, but Latin was not bad in terms of giving some "classical" education and also some appreciation of finer points of grammar, and it probably had a lot to do with my interest in etymologies which has stayed with me to this day.
So I eventually had to pick up some French in order to read the scientific articles important to me. German too to some extent, but I tell you, I find reading mathematics in French ten times easier than in German. Somehow German feels to me grammatically dense, heavy, ponderous -- far more so than French. (It's just my personal feeling though, which I wouldn't care to defend against determined opposition to the idea.)
Anonymous 10:04 am
I gather the terms ambiguous images and reversible figures have been around for a long time. When you have 2 term for the same thing over time, inevitably they will get mixed up. That is how language works. So the answer in the puzzle is valid
I’m really surprised how many commenters, and I assume Rex as well, have never seen the rabbit/duck ‘illusion.’ Not much of an optical illusion, by modern standards, but I assume in its century when brain science was just getting its feet under it, the way our brains are able to see something so entirely, and then flip so utterly to something else was a really interesting phenomenon. I thought the puzzle was a cute reference to a historically famous image!
Perfection.
You can’t print from the game app site. You need to go to main NYT website.
@pabloinnh 9:17 AM
Hope you found something lovable in our cuddly Land of Enchantment.
@Jnlzbth It's possible though that any confusion came not from the clue but from what Rex wrote, since RP went on about pronouns in English. Of course the accusative case in English doesn't apply just to pronouns; it's just that the accusative case isn't particularly marked by noun declensions, except for pronouns (and maybe some other isolated cases that I'm forgetting).
Red fact on my part. Although I guess I could argue I said a clue "like" 'sixteenth century date'. 'Twelfth century date' is kind of like 'sixteenth century date'.
Tht…my decision to take Latin came from my Dad “encouraging” me (pushing it). I’m old enough that back then he said, you might want to be a doctor or pharmacist! I had a horrible Latin teacher…um…kind of crazy…and I won’t get into details but I think about ten years later she made the local paper with respect to house, many dogs and cats, and the department of health. My older sister had wanted me to take Spanish (as she said then…not dead!)
FR and KEXP are two of the better things this messed up world has ever brought forth. Kudos.
I disagree with nothing OFL says today. Some here in the neighborhood may know how much I dislike any form of “grid art.” This type, and especially the frustrating way in which the art was revealed was positively antithetical to every themed puzzle construction technique I can think of, and my solve was a thankfully easy albeit boring slog.
I remember a longish(?) while back we had a puzzle that had us draw the Ursa Major post-solve. I did not enjoy that one, although I can say now that it irked me much less than this one. I kept thinking that if today was to be the day my nearly year long streak is broken because I can’t figure out an answer that requires I see a drawing that is invisible until all the answers are correct, I am going to be very unhappy - to say it mildly. I don’t even worry about streaks, but my niece (a new solver who asked me to “connect her” to my NYT games and also had to tell me which buttons to push to do so) commented upon being connected, “Aunt Carol, have you really solved over 200 puzzles without a mistake?” I told her I had no idea because I don’t pay attention. So now she has me worried about the darn thing - as if it matters. Sheesh. I solve for fun and to learn things.
I did like the single rebus.
@Gary J: Me atreví, y estoy decepcionada. But as always, I got a few good chuckles, especially uniclues 2 and 5.
Agree with much of the shade being thrown and found particularly irksome the “ANEW” “ENEWS” cross. Just unimaginative as it gets
Got stuck at the Jdate EYE rebus cross. Eventually sussed it out. But I solve on paper and could not see the duck or rabbit
I finally Googled the duck-rabbit ambiguous figure to see what this puzzle theme is based on and found the original drawing strangely disturbing. When I see the figure as a rabbit, the “ears” resemble no rabbit I've ever seen, and when I see the duck, the beak makes it seem murderous.
I think creating a puzzle based on this drawing so many people are acquainted with is clever and interesting, but regarding whoever drew the original, I have to question their mental vision of ducks and rabbits. :-)
Thank you!
Why is ACER a “great service provider”??
I thought it made computers?
"Acer" - Think tennis. btw, this puzzle is my nominee for Worst Wednesday EVER! Degree of difficulty was about right, but a rando rebus? An altogether scribble-scrabble connect the dots? The editor should have spiked it.
It’s “one who aces” serves in tennis. Strained clue since you call such a player an ace.
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