R-V guy? / SAT 11-8-25 / Overseer of Artemis / Accessory with a grid of numbers / Lucas's younger sister on "Stranger Things" / Phrase spoken by a dog in a burning room, in a 2010s meme / John Coltrane album whose title suggests making major progress / Mali Empire ruler who single-handedly made the value of gold almost worthless by giving away so much of it / Largest Bengali-speaking city in the world
Saturday, November 8, 2025
Constructor: Ryan Judge
Relative difficulty: Extremely easy
Word of the Day: A.E. Housman (32A: "Then it was well with me, in days ___ I was born": Housman) —
Alfred Edward Housman (/ˈhaʊsmən/; 26 March 1859 – 30 April 1936) was an English classical scholar and poet. He showed early promise as a student at the University of Oxford, but he failed the final examination in literae humaniores and took employment as a patent examiner in London in 1882. In his spare time he engaged in textual criticism of classical Greek and Latin texts and his publications as an independent researcher earned him a high academic reputation and appointment as professor of Latin at University College London in 1892. In 1911 he was appointed Kennedy Professor of Latin in the University of Cambridge. He is regarded as one of the foremost classicists of his age and one of the greatest classical scholars. His editions of Juvenal, Manilius, and Lucan are still considered authoritative.
In 1896, Housman published A Shropshire Lad, a cycle of poems marked by the author's pessimism and preoccupation with early death, which gradually acquired a wide readership and appealed particularly to a younger audience during World War I. Another collection, entitled Last Poems, appeared in 1922. Housman's poetry became popular for musical settings. Following his death, further poems from his notebooks were published by his brother Laurence.[...]
In 1942, Laurence Housman also deposited an essay entitled "A. E. Housman's 'De Amicitia'" in the British Library, with the proviso that it was not to be published for 25 years. The essay discussed A. E. Housman's homosexuality and his love for Moses Jackson. Despite the conservative nature of the times and his own caution in public life, Housman was quite open in his poetry, and especially in A Shropshire Lad, about his deeper sympathies.
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I've got maybe half a dozen things marked on my grid that gave me some hesitation, but nothing at all that I really struggled with, beyond that one proper noun that, familiarity-wise is from outer space—the outlieriest of outliers: MANSA MUSA (59A: Mali Empire ruler who single-handedly made the value of gold almost worthless by giving away so much of it). I confess that I have never heard or seen that name before, and that that answer may as well have been a string of random letters; and yet somehow it didn't matter. Everything else was so easy that I just washed right over that answer and finally brought it down with ERICA (44D: Lucas's younger sister on "Stranger Things"): the closest thing that the puzzle has to a genuinely tough crossing. While parts of this were fun and made me smile (remembering old music, remembering old memes), the lack of difficulty was dispiriting. If any day is gonna try to tear my face off, it's supposed to be Saturday. No threat of face-tearing today. This puzzle merely pawed at it. Like my cat trying to wake me up in the morning. Equal parts cute and annoying. I think the puzzle itself is decent, but it should've run on a Friday (even if it felt, difficulty-wise, more like a Wednesday). Running this on Saturday? NOT OK (not NOT OKAY, which, as an answer, is NOT OK).
I got the Housman clue easily (32A: "Then it was well with me, in days ERE I was born": Housman), but only because the missing word was easy to infer, not because I knew the poem in question. Here's the poem in question. It's a grim take on the idea of this world as a vale of tears (or a waking nightmare—the opposite of "THIS IS FINE," really):
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The highlights for me today were GIANT STEPS (26A: John Coltrane album whose title suggests making major progress) and "THIS IS FINE" (11D: Phrase spoken by a dog in a burning room, in a 2010s meme). I particularly liked the fact that "THIS IS FINE" runs right through NEIL (not NEAL) Gorsuch, a member of that feckless branch of government that is not interested in the concept of checks and balances and is happy to watch the world burn (that is, to watch the other two branches burn the world). Normally wouldn't be happy to see Gorsuch in the puzzle or anywhere, but today: good job, puzzle. You got me to enjoy seeing his name. There was some pleasing cluing in this puzzle too. I ultimately liked the clue for SHORTSTOP (13A: One who's off base?); my first thought was "none of the infielders actually stand on the damn bases!" [caveat caveat] but then I thought "OK, the only infield position that doesn't have 'base' actually in its title is SHORTSTOP ... yeah, that works." Speaking of baseball, I also liked the OHIO clue (2D: Red state?), mainly because it took me a bit to realize it was dealing with baseball (the Cincinnati Reds play in the state of OHIO) (yes, OHIO is, these days, typically a "Red State" on the U.S. electoral map, but that "?" means there's wordplay afoot). I like that the puzzle took a mythological clue into cephalopod territory. That was unexpected, and even though I've never heard of the cephalopods in question, the clue made it easy to infer once I had ARGO-. The puzzle's other mythological clue had me slightly off balance for a bit as well. I had -A-A and briefly assumed that 53D: Overseer of Artemis (NASA) was GAIA (!?) (personification of Earth, "Mother of the Gods").
I got the Housman clue easily (32A: "Then it was well with me, in days ERE I was born": Housman), but only because the missing word was easy to infer, not because I knew the poem in question. Here's the poem in question. It's a grim take on the idea of this world as a vale of tears (or a waking nightmare—the opposite of "THIS IS FINE," really):
Be still, my soul, be still; the arms you bear are brittle,Bullet points:
Earth and high heaven are fixt of old and founded strong.
Think rather,—call to thought, if now you grieve a little,
The days when we had rest, O soul, for they were long.
Men loved unkindness then, but lightless in the quarry
I slept and saw not; tears fell down, I did not mourn;
Sweat ran and blood sprang out and I was never sorry:
Then it was well with me, in days ere I was born.
Now, and I muse for why and never find the reason,
I pace the earth, and drink the air, and feel the sun.
Be still, be still, my soul; it is but for a season:
Let us endure an hour and see injustice done.
Ay, look: high heaven and earth ail from the prime foundation;
All thoughts to rive the heart are here, and all are vain:
Horror and scorn and hate and fear and indignation—
Oh why did I awake? when shall I sleep again? [A Shropshire Lad, XLVIII (1896)]
- 5A: R-V guy? (STU) — groan and eye roll ("S" "T" and "U" are the letters between "R" and "V" in the alphabet). This is one of the oldest "?" clues in the book (And I'm pretty sure I've seen that SPARE TIRES clue before, too (10D: Fifth wheels?)). My friend Lena and I will have to agree to disagree on this one :)
- 17A: Accessory with a grid of numbers (BINGO CARD) — "Accessory"? LOL, what? I don't wear it around my neck or wrist or around my waist, so ... come on. I honestly thought the answer was going to be some BINDI variation that I was unaware of.
- 37A: "You're not just imagining that tone" ("I HEAR IT") — I thought the tone was the speaker's own, so I put in "I MEAN IT" at first.
- 60A: Largest Bengali-speaking city in the world (DHAKA) — capital of Bangladesh, population over 10 million (closer to 24 million in the greater metro area).
- 6D: Shortening for a city that omits "onto" (TOR) — so dopey that I like it.
- 7D: John who won a National Book Award for this novel "The Centaur" (UPDIKE) — I know the author's name well, but I've somehow never heard of this novel. Writing in the New York Review of Books, Jonathan Miller described The Centaur (1964) as "a poor novel irritatingly marred by good features" (wikipedia).
- 28D: Sellout letters (SRO) — stands (!) for "Standing Room Only" (one of those Broadway-related terms I learned from crosswords very early on). SRO can also stand for "Single-Room Occupancy," describing a kind of cheap extended-stay hotel, but you don't see that clue much any more.
- 36D: Fella (BUB) — this answer went through the most incarnations. Started as GUY (I had the "U"), and then went to BUD before finally ending up as BUB.
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110 comments:
Easy breezy Saturday. Only one overwrite, my 5D visit was a STOp before it was a STAy, and one WOE, the Mali ruler MANSA MUSA (I looked up the spacing post-solve) at 59A. I didn't know the Coltrane album but I had GIANT STEPS (26A) filled in before I read the clue.
I was sure it was DACCA or at least DAKKA. It turns out that DACCA was the old spelling.
Spot on, Rex. As someone who has spent a ridiculous amount of time playing Civilization VI, MANSA MUSA went right in along with everything else, definitely felt like a Wednesday
1/2 my usual time. As Rex would say "no resistance" other than the Mansa Musa cross with NASA.
It figures. I solve a Saturday without cheating, and Rex says it's extremely easy. I had "beaten path" before GARDENPATH, wanted "rare coins" instead of RARESTAMP, and had "les" instead of DES at first. But DOC was obvious, and the music sounded. Did anyone else find it extremely easy?
I bet my daughter (who rarely does the puzzle but was sitting next to me) that Mansamusa would be your featured answer. She spit that answer out with no hesitation. Her BF teaches world history in high school & has regaled her (wooed her?) with tales of this Mali leader. Easiest Saturday ever
You absolutely would’ve won that bet if I hadn’t gotten distracted by poetry
THIS IS (was) FINE. More Friday-like no doubt - Rex covers all the bases. Speaking of bases - the puzzle feels baseball dense which works for me. Liked BINGO CARD, GARDEN PATH and DEPTH CHARTS.
Gary Louris
Keep ROOT CANAL out your mouth. IDLERS is a rough plural and should be called out by @Anoa Bob. Don’t need FRAT BROs and needed all the crosses for MANSAMUSA. BUB is the definition of good short fill.
The Fall
Enjoyable Saturday morning solve. Matt Sewell’s Stumper provides a proper challenge today - recommended.
The Blue Nile
With you. Thought I was really on the ball this morning with my fastest time. Dashed when I saw OFLs comments. Oh well, at least personal records don’t show the difficulty ratin.
Whenever possible, I try to linger a bit and look over the grid upon completion, because sweet serendipities often pop out, capping off the solve with loveliness, like dessert.
Today, for instance:
• Contradictory cross of SHORT STOP and STAY.
• USA beginning one answer (USARMY) and ending its cross (MANSAMUSA).
• GARDEN PATH, which has both a beautiful and ugly connotation.
• Lower-case places – DIKE, GARDEN, CANAL, PLOT – balanced by upper-case places IOWA, OAHU, RENO, DHAKA.
• PuzzPair© of I SAID (as in “I Am… I Said”) and nearby NEIL (as in Diamond).
So, not only a bouncy brain-pleasing solve with answers that pinged thoughts, images, and memories, but also a sweet finish of lovely finds. In other words, a splendid outing. Thank you, Ryan!
I agree this was easy for a Saturday, although there were a few stumbling blocks for me, some proper names like ERICA, Elizabeth OLSEN, and of course MANSAMUSA. Also the football chart. My husband, not usually a puzzle solver, helped me out today.
Hey All !
Yes, easier than YesterPuz. Slightly less than 16 minutes for me on a Saturday either means I'm great at solving puzs, or it's an easy puz. Taking bets on which one it is. Har.
Thankfully, all the crosses on MANSAMUSA were easy. Haven't heard that name, or the fact he gave away gold. Some neat clues today, the PINATA one, e.g. Toughest thing today was deciding twixt BLUE or BLEU CHEESE.
Lots of I's today, I SAID, I HEAR IT, I HAD NO IDEA, I OWA 😁
My ole brain thanks Ryan for sparing it unnecessary taxing.
Have a great Saturday!
Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Sport Ute??
Wait, so people are supposed to be *wearing* their accessories to a crime? Seems so cumbersome.
The S crossing MANSA MUSA and NASA could have been almost any consonant for me, and I guessed wrong. Easier than most Saturdays, but I wouldn’t say “extremely” in italics, for me.
MANSA MUSA crossing the trickily clued NASA was the only real sticking point.
I quit when I saw that Gorsuch was here
I’m stumped by the clue for GARDEN PATH, which appears to be obvious to most and I’m probably just not seeing it. What kind of tricks are they talking about there ?
I agree with pretty much everything that Rex said. MANSA MUSA crossing NASA got me as well.
Another way of saying SUV. Sport Utility Vehicle.
Easy Saturday ... easier than yesterday. I don't think I had any lucky special knowledge today besides DHAKA (and if Rex is typical, MANSA MUSA? - I thought he was widely known) and those came pretty late in the solve. Big WoEs for THIS IS FINE, SHE, and ERICA.
It is vanishingly rare that I know the answer to [actor who starred in tv show] clues, so yay, Elizabeth OLSEN.
Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV)
Played easy for me too until the SE where I was fooled by the Artemis clue and had never heard of MANSAMUSA. So eventually ran the alphabet to get the happy music. Had axe before UKE which made that section a little tricky. Also I mEAn IT before I HEAR IT. Slight hiccup trying to figure out what USA thing that G.I. Joe was wearing. REG? Like regulation wear? But what is gTD? Is there something called a ROY? And then saw that it was US *space* and finally made sense. lSAT before PSAT but figured it couldn't be a RARE STALl so, again, just a process of making things make sense. Nice hard Wednesday puzzle. 20:07
Easiest Saturday I can remember. I usually allot about 45 minutes for a Saturday puzzle but today I have an extra half hour left.
I thought that MANSA MUSA/NASA crossing was up there on the all time Natick list, but after running the alphabet, I saw that the S was surmisable if I wasn’t so stuck on thinking of an ur-Greek god.
Thanks for the poem: Be Still, My Soul is an all time favorite hymn, guessing that it was borrowed from this. Also, Sure on this Shining Night by James Agee has a line “high summer holds the earth”, the phrasing looking similar.
Hands up for “I mean it”
Having read this column long enough, Sold Right Out comes to mind, and seemed like a dupe of the “sellout” in the clue, lol.
I thought it was on the easier side, but not extremely. Missed the Cincinnati Reds state, nice!
I thought “they’re not up to much” might be dwarfs; then briefly confused Liverpudians with Lilliputians, ending up with “midgets”. I thought these were a bit insensitive for the NYT, but ended up being on me, DOH.
I'm not sure I've heard that either, but presumably short for Sports Utility Vehicle.
Without exaggeration, this was the easiest Sunday I've ever done.
This took me barely one-third the time Friday's puzzle took, and barely half as long as Thursday's puzzle took. This week made no sense.
Yes, it was easy, almost objectively so. The only reason for clocking a more or less average Saturday time was a stupidly misplaced letter or two.
What's NOT OKAY with NOT OKAY? It seems to me THIS IS FINE.
Ooh, ROOT CANAL. It's NOT OKAY with me to get cutesy in cluing this procedure, which I hope to avoid if I can at all help it.
But I did like the cluing for PINATA.
I might have seen MANSA MUSA before, but it was not on the tip of my tongue. It would have been a consequence of remembering the end of the line from Hop on Pop by Dr. Seuss, "My father / can read / big words, too. / Like... / Constantinople / and / Timbuktu" (some incredibly heart-warming memories of being read bedtime stories), and I was going, "wait, where is Timbuktu anyway?" Answer: Mali. So then I read a little about the history of Mali, where centuries ago Timbuktu was an important trading center. I'll bet I read about Mr. MUSA then, and then forgot.
I'll end with some slight pushback against what Rex wrote re NEIL: "a member of that feckless branch of government that is not interested in the concept of checks and balances". On the contrary, the judiciary on the whole has acted mostly as one of the few bulwarks pushing back against the lawlessness of the regime, and quite feckfully so given the circumstances. The Supreme Court has been of course a glaring exception, but while they are at the top of the judiciary, they are not the whole thing.
Really?
Never had to skip around even a little. Whooshed from the NW down to the SW, then over across to the SE, and finished up in the NE. Missed my fastest ever Saturday time by 15 seconds. Played like a themeless Wednesday, maybe.
I also don’t understand the clue for GARDEN PATH!
I also thought "accessory" was FINE for the clue.
This might help.
Fastest Saturday ever for me - 6:39. Felt like a Wednesday to me but I'm going to recommend my family to try it so they can get their first complete Saturday out of the way
This would have been my fastest Saturday ever—by quite a few minutes—had I gotten the NASA/MANSAMUSA cross. But I didn't connect Artemis with NASA so I didn't get it. I did like the "TV interior" clue.
Far be it from me to ever call a Saturday easy, but I did notice quite a bit less resistance from this one than usual. And that’s with absolutely zero cheats, a very rare occurrence for me. My gratitude goes to the constructor for making it week-end worthy but still enjoyable for a mediocre solver like me. It’s nice to occasionally feel the thrill of victory when you least expect it.
I thought there were some excellent clues here; SHORTSTOP and FRAT BRO were shades of genius. My only problem area was the SW where I did not know the album at the top or the STEAK dish or the city at the bottom. Then I had OLDER where OF AGE should’ve been and HAD NO IDEA what a SCATTER PLOT was, so there was a lot of empty space between those four borders. I finally stared at it long enough to get GARDEN PATH, and the rest fell into place. Also, had to laugh at my struggle with 17 across. I tried my best to make it some sort of sophisticated electronic or scientific device (thinking BIN = BINARY), and it turns out to be as simple as a BINGO CARD. A humbling moment and a reminder not to get too smug about finishing a Saturday.
Anonymous 8:44 - I agree. Last night I was thinking to myself, "I hope tomorrow is a really good Saturday puzzle." But it was so easy I'm disappointed. I hope starting with tomorrow things get back on track.
The most disappointing Saturday ever. Full of Monday / Tuesday fill, this should never this easy on the hardest day. I sure hope they get back to what makes the NYT more money than any other source , and fix this.
Clearly Rex was referring to the Supreme Court, of which Neil is, unfortunately, a member.
Oops. I meant RV interior, of course. I thought it was a clever way to clue STU.
I agree with both you and Lena. RV interior is a much more Saturday way to clue STU than R-V guy.
I got up at quarter to 6 this morning, my dog being still not on standard time. So by the time I finished the 4-page obit of James Watson and started the puzzle I was dozing a bit, and was only able to put in unconnected little bits of things. ERE, RENO, TSO, STEAK. But when I woke up half an hour later, it filled itself in with alacrity. I thought I was going to have to post the Housman poem here, but Rex beat me to it. I think I memorized it in 1972 or so, a time that had some resonance with the present day.
Perhaps there is no exaggeration in your statement, but there is certainly a good bit of temporal confusion.
I know, and said that myself. What I was saying is that the term "branch of government" is not at all accurate here, and I expect he would agree. It's not an IDLE distinction.
I'm sure this will come off as snarky, but it's not meant to be (really)... but I'm curious why this puzzle was selected by the NYT editors. It has 72 words, 33 blocks, uses only 21 of 26 letters, has 20 three-letter words, has uninspiring long answers, is rather easy to solve, etc. Does anybody have any good guesses to why this puzzle might have stood out to editors? TIA.
I am the outlier here! This was a hard one for me. Some of the longer down answers were difficult for me . Apparently, in addition to not knowing anything about Sportsball, I also dunno about data charts, lol.
SRO stands for STANDING ROOM ONLY
The ARGONAUTS of Greek myth, those seekers of the Golden Fleece, were not named after the little animals in the puzzle. Their ship, the Argo, was named after its maker, Argus.
I came to this page specifically to find out what the GARDEN PATH referred to… thanks!
Certainly not my quickest Saturday, but not my slowest, either. Lots of type-overs. 18A I mean to I SAID and, further down, at 37A I mEAn IT to I HEAR IT. 19A NOT good to NOT OKAY, that kind of stuff. Slow going but somewhat steady.
A couple of longish acrosses really helped me out. Most nights I solve while listening to a jazz playlist but decided tonight to work in silence and of course it’s the night I get a John Coltrane clue and have to stop for half a nanosecond before entering GIANT STEPS at 26A. (Am now setting it up in celebration.) BLUE CHEESE at 42A was a gimme because Roquefort is my favourite moldy blue dairy product. Followed by Gorgonzola Picante, Saint Agur, and Stilton (the most British and, therefore, the stodgiest of the bunch). Can’t imagine living without them. So many days when I’m out working on some rain-sodden project and I duck back in for a bite of lunch, it’s cheese and crackers and a glass of sauvignon blanc. If there’s nothing blue then maybe it’s an English Cheddar or a Port Salut. And then back to work. Retirement is so much fun.
My biggest holdup was probably MANSA MUSA at 59A, but he sounds like an interesting guy, worthy of further investigation.
I was hoping for Mansa Musa but I loved the poem.
Esto está bien. {Not}
Meh. Overly straightforward puzzle attempting to be a Saturday by a bunch of proper nouns ringing the bell on the gunkometer. Yawn. Only really tedious answer for me was the alphabet soup of MANSAMUSA which appeared through crosses and I will not remember him next time even after reading up on him. UPDIKE and ARGONAUTS slowed me down. Otherwise a very fast Saturday.
R-V guy was cute. I've always heard it was the primrose path and am less enamored by this generic GARDEN PATH.
I added PIÑATA to my favorite word list under SCHISM and it's the first word on the list with an ñ in it. ENYA? Tilde. Wiggly thing.
❤️ BUB.
😩 FRATBRO.
People: 10 {boo}
Places: 5
Products: 5
Partials: 10 {on a themeless no less}
Foreignisms: 1
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 31 of 72 (43%) {🔔 The clanging in the towers of Gunkistan can be heard throughout the lands.}
Funny Factor: 2 😕
Tee-Hee: LSD PUSSYFOOT OF AGE.
Uniclues:
1 Midfielder on his phone sharing his feelings with his therapist (according to derisive oldsters).
2 Emphatic statement upon entering the church basement from grumpy gaming gramma.
3 Those really hating their La-Z-Boy lifestyles.
4 Superhero with super ears able to detect a keg being tapped a block away in the Sigma house.
5 Post-Alpha group known for eating salads.
6 Catholics under the Stuarts.
7 Mollosc adjacent dance craze.
8 To be fondled by amateurs on the side of the road.
1 ALPHA SHORT STOP (~)
2 I SAID BINGO CARD! (~)
3 NOT OKAY IDLERS
4 I HEAR IT FRAT BRO
5 GEN BLUE CHEESE
6 PIÑATA BRITONS
7 ARGONAUTS SNEAK
8 SPARE TIRE'S ONUS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: The Himalayas. ORB OUTIE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It seemed hard at the start, but I just had to get used to the constructor's style of tricky clues. Also, for some reason I thought Clark played for the U. NEB, one state off. Not helped because libraries don't sort by ISBN, but by one of several systems of library-specific call numbers. So I stumbled around until I got to IDLERS crossing UPDIKE, and it all started to click.
Oddly enough, I had heard of MANSA MUSA--I took a course in African history somewhere around 1966--but in the fog of memory had him in East Africa, so it didn't help until I had the MANSA part from crosses.
As for BINGO CARD, an accessory is something added to the main thing; but in this case the cards are the main thing, so it doesn't really work. It's like cluing DRESS as "fashion accessory."
Same for me as others: a smooth pleasure cruise with familiar ports of call until MANSA MUSA x NASA. Staying with the I HAD NO IDEA theme, cephalopod ARGONAUTS were entirely new to me: for anyone else curious about those remarkable creatures, here's a one-minute video.
NOT so easy for me today. I didn't know IOWA as clued (no basketball fan here) so I jumped over to STU crossing UPDIKE. Not that I've read anything by UPDIKE but the name is well known.
I thought GEN ALPHA was well clued though the crossreferencing of the answers left me hanging in the NE until crosses helped out. THIS IS FINE, as clued, memes are rarely something I run into, since I don't follow any of the sites where such things arise.
DEPTH CHARTS, is this something everyone but me knows?
So my Saturday solve was satisfyingly crunchy. Thanks, Ryan Judge!
By the way, that note on Housman leaves out the juicy parts. It's thought by many that he failed his exams deliberately so that he could go work with Jackson, the guy whom he was deeply in love with. Jackson HAD NO IDEA, and after Housman finally told him he never spoke to him again. (I learned all this from the program notes when I saw a production of Tom Stoppard's "The Invention of Love," so I cannot vouch for its accuracy.)
Headline after a local Belgian soccer club walks off the field mid-game: SPARETIRES.
Sam: Who are you rooting for in the upcoming World Cup?
Me: MANSAMUSA!
Checklist for warm-weather camping: SHORTSTOP, socks, bug spray.
I'm really tired of no one standing up to Kay and telling her she can't always have her way. So, if you see Kay, just say NOTOKAY.
I did this puzzle. Thanks, Ryan Judge
@Rick K 10:33 AM
The clue for SNEAK got it past our illustrious slush pile editor.
Do people not know that Google exists or
Easy in spite of two long WOEs, MANSAMUSA, and THIS IS FINE. Needless to say the crosses were helpful.
Costly erasure - Older before OF AGE.
Elizabeth OLSEN was recently on Kimmel so she was a gimme even though I’ve never seen anything she’s been in.
Smooth (except for maybe IDLERS) with a smattering of sparkle and some fun clues, liked it.
At a ROOT CANAL years ago, before the doc started drilling, the assistant placed a tissue in my left hand and explained that they called it the "white flag." I was supposed to wave it if I was feeling "discomfort," and the doc would pause. I asked: Won't the shrieking tip him off?
Depth chart took a minute.. never heard the term. But absolutely delighted to see John Coltrane’s giant steps in the puzzle
Agree totally--way easier than yesterday! 12:30 for me--pretty much a record on a Saturday!!!!
Nice and breezy SatPuz. Much less painful than a ROOTCANAL.
staff weeject picks: The STU/TOR pair, with their primo comical clues.
some fave stuff: BINGOCARD. IHADNOIDEA. ARGONAUTS, condemned to be cephalopods by Circe. Learnin all about that MANSAMUSA dude. SHORTSTOP clue. The double-sneaky OHIO clue.
Thanx for a solvequest sans sufferin, Mr. Judge dude. Good job. And just a JQVXZ short of a pangrammer. har
Masked & Anonymo6Us
... and now, inspired by a refreshin idea from a loyal runtpuz test solver ...
"Reflections of a Kirk Dude" - 8x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Really disliked the 37A clue “You’re not just imagining that tone” for I HEAR IT. I had I MEAN IT instead, because I assumed “tone” referred to tone of voice. Better would have been “You’re not just imagining that noise.”
Yes this was a lot easier than yesterday, but that MANSAMUSA / NASA cross was awful. I saw "Artemis" in the clue for the latter and just assumed: the Greek god of... something. I ended up running the entire alphabet for that S without success; turned out I had another wrong square: #37. I had OOC for Olympic Organizing Committee, crossing O HEAR IT which is... awkward but possible.
For 59 across I very briefly considered MONTEZUMA which fits perfectly and has 4 correct letters! But... wrong continent, surely?
Got SHOR as a start on "one who's off base?" and really wanted something to do with shore leave. Oh well.
I see I'm in the minority here. I found this puzzle easy, but not overly so. More like a Friday where I was bouncing all around the grid instead of flowing through it.
Fastest Saturday ever, for me!
This was at best a tough Wednesday. Personal best for a Saturday.
I was born and raised in Liverpool. I am not a Briton. I am from Liverpool. And I am an Evertonian.
It was on the harder side of average for me, too
Disappointed when I blew through it last night in just over 10 min, not what I want from a Saturday!
Mansa Musa was central to an episode of the Apple TV+ reboot series of Time Bandits. I enjoyed the series a lot, but doesn't seem like many others even knew it existed.
@n.simon - that was a joke referring to Rex’s first guess as to what that meant.
Extremely easy, but I did get MANSA MUSA from my years (decades) of Civ! He's not that far out of outer space.
I didn't find this one easy (though much, much easier than yesterday where I was so at sea that I had nothing of interest to contribute here), but I enjoyed it well enough.
Loved the cluing for OHIO, SHORTSTOP (both basebally) and ROOTCANAL. I realize the STU clue is a little long in the tooth but I like seeing it.
I am also a huge Updike fan so very much liked seeing him mentioned today (I'm a bigger Salinger fan as I had mentioned in the past, and have no sons that are named after any Updike characters but he's probably second on my list of American fiction writers)
I'm not up on my Mali empire rulers so that long one was totally foreign to me. The 39A and 37D crossing was also left blank for a very long time. DOC just would not enter into my mind and IOC is something I'm sure I've heard but totally blanked. It took me forever to get IHEARDIT but when I did, the "I" was enough to get things going in that part of the grid. I thought the cluing for that one was tricky but not much fun.
Overall, a nice ride with just enough twists and turns in the road to make it interesting. thank you Ryan!
A little easier than yesterday's solve but still solidly Saturday. I've never heard of SCATTERPLOTs or DEPTHCHARTs. MANSAMUSA came totally from the crosses. No problem with NASA.
I had to backfill the NW to finish. I know nothing of college basketball and I can never learn that library initialism in spite of how many times I've put it into puzzles.
I was surprised by how chopped up the grid looked with so many short answers. IOC crossing DOC was the trickiest square for me I was expecting 39A to be an alternate (and unknown) initialism. IOC was familiar enough.
You are NOT the only outlier Paula. I have yet to make my sad report…
Lol anon 8:42…I was temporally confused yesterday…it can happen!
I’ve heard (and seen in CC) the word “ute” in several Australian and New Zealand films, referring to the SVUs used in that part of the world.
Rating.. “Extremely Easy”. I have to agree, personal best for a Saturday. There are some days when I’m pushing hard to try to make a PR and other days when I don’t realize it til afterwards. This one did not really have my full attention until the last letter went in and I thought, wait, is that it?
(To a Frederick Loewe melody)
What are those dots, some rising and some falling
Random seeming clusters here and there
Oh, it’s a graph, I laugh as I’m recalling
It’s SCATTERPLOT!
@egsforbreakfast 10:59 AM
"I did this puzzle." Laughing.
This felt easier than most Wednesdays and sure enough, I finished it faster than my last two Wednesdays. Not sure how this one ended up on a Saturday.
All the cool kids thought this was easy! I’m not a member of the “cool kids” today because…well…I was crushed when I first looked at Rex, who emphasized EXTREMELY easy, and then proceeded to see a LOT (or TON) thought so. Well. Unlike yesterday, I actually FINISHED it (due to a guess on MANSA MUSA, but that was sheer luck so…
I have to admit (and don’t hold me to details because I worked puz mid-morning, then decided to come to blog with tail between my legs much later), at one point, I thought…this is totally a “dude” puzzle. Please don’t tell me why it’s not, I’ve changed my mind…just telling you my thought process.
Let’s just say that my biggest hold ups were the fact that I got totally stuck on Arachne (yes…a Roman god and yes, I can almost never keep my Greek and Roman gods straight) AND the fact that I’m embarrassed to say I knew nothing about MANSA MUSA. Someone above said THEY knew due to Civilization VI or VII, but I stopped Civilization after it was, well, JUST Civilization, and Shaka Zulu was only person who threatened my settlers in Africa. And yes, it is sad that sometimes things like that are how I learn about important historical figures.
This MIGHT sound like I’m putting down the puzzle. Absolutely not. Today I learned a lot from the puzzle. I just kinda felt semi-dumb when I saw most everyone thought it was easy!
Yeah, an easy Saturday but every now and then THIS IS FINE if you'uns ask me.
At first glance 20A IDLERS looks like a classic POC (plural of convenience) but further examination shows that the crossing Downs UPDIKE, DEPTH CHARTS, SPARE TIRES and THIS IS FINE means it is there more for necessity than for convenience.
The POC that jumped out at me is not obvious to the casual observer. It's one of the ultra useful two for one POCs where a Down and an Across both get a letter count, grid filling boost by sharing a single S.
This usually happens with the S at the end of both entries but here we see a stealth version where the S is embedded inside one of the beneficiaries; to wit, ARGONAUTS and ADDS UP.
Okay, I'll ask. If 49A is PIÑATA, what the heck is 46D SÑEAK?
With better submissions I'm sure. Fickle, these editors.
I love your post!
Oh. Arachne (arachnids or a weird form) versus ARGONAUTS…of which I know, but didn’t know of cephalopod. This then leads to WHY I would even think an arachnid is a cephalopod…please be kind.
This. I nominate 29d for clue of the month.
Also, today’s LA Times was a superior puzzle all ‘round.
It was very hard for me, I’m old and not into sports and pop music.
Would have liked the clue on BINGOCARD to have been "Not on my ________" (unexpected result)
Much more current and colloquial and definitely not an "accessory" (eyeroll)
I’m getting weary of seeing crossword puzzles that erroneously clue “ISBN” as being library-related. It’s a number used in the publishing and book-selling world.
I came by MANSA MUSA honestly twice over - I taught world history to sixth graders for a bit, so his name definitely popped for me when Run the Jewels dropped “Pawfluffer Night”:
I'm talking crazy
Half past the clock is cuckoo
You rappers doodoo, baby [del]
Just basic boo boo
I'm Shaka Zulu, Mansa Musa, my money beaucoup
One of the (many) issues with the editorial team having such enthusiasm for foreign words in an English language puzzle. Granted, PIÑATA is common usage, but it still causes unforeseen seen difficulties. Even more egregious is a situation that arises frequently, which is when a foreign language word appears and the people who are fluent in that language point out that the NYT staff misinterpreted the meaning. I put that all on Will. It’s very noble that he wants to have a wide variety of topics and such in the grids, but ensuring accuracy should be a prerequisite for the job that he has had for decades, and in my opinion he has fallen well short of that one in this area.
Rex, or anyone else for that matter, I do encourage you to read The Centuar. At times, it is an excruciatingly beautiful book.
tc
Why a GARDENPATH? Is there some kind of saying I’m not familiar with, or is this about the deception in Eden?
Anonymous 11:02 AM
Some people don’t want to turn a crossword into work. ( I personally am a bit of a nerd and Google facts before I disagree with someone here) so they ask. and usually get an answer. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I try not to get nasty.
Anonymous 5:14 PM
I am old and not into sports but apparently I am assuming they are young people who posted here today who had. no clue about GARDEN PATH so it was more balanced than you think. (See also UPDIKE. I would have dnf’d if not for knowing his name. His novels are not anywhere near as popular as they were before he died). Can’t have everything for old people. I do agree that I wouldn’t call it easy., more medium for me.
egsforbreakfast
It took me a while to get sparetires. Good one!
My Canadian peeps where are you?! I grew up in Ottawa and we called Toronto "TO" for short. (Pronounced "tee-oh"). Using TOR in this way just seems weird.
While I wouldn’t call the puzzle hard, it wasn’t in any the easiest ever for me More a medium.
MANSAMUSA. I lucked out because I knew it was likely to be at least partly Arabic (Mali is a Muslin country ) and MUSA is their version of Moses, and very common So after getting the M and A I put it in and was right. As for NASA I think the puzzle played that trick before but NASA came to me quickly. Anyway my problem was with the NW corner. Updike was on the tip of my tongue and I needed it to finish. The OR ending I had instead of OP for 14 across didn’t help. Finally, it came to me. And then I was able to finish the corner and the puzzle.
OHIO. I didn’t get the baseball reference until reading Rex. It does explain the?
ROOT. CANAL About 3 decades ago I got in a bicycle accident. I was relatively lucky Other than abrasions , the real damage was to my two upper front teeth. Eventually I had to have the dreaded root canal procedure on both. But I got plenty of Novocain , and I didn’t find it painful at all. I remember not being bothered by even the Novocain shots.
As usual I liked the puzzle.
I learned things today while wending my way through this delightful Saturday opus. Ryan Judge, already on my “watch list” of newer constructors, may make it to the favorites list soon. The clever clues are what made this one sing for me. So many if the clues were the word play I had missed all week long. The cherry on top was learning things.
MANSAMUSA, DHAKA, ARGONAUTS and SCATTER PLOT were instructive. I knew ARGONAUTS from mythology, so I had the ARGO from the easy NW, and intuited the rest, but I was wholly unaware that it’s the name for a class of cephalopod. I’ve been looking at photos and videos of them since finishing. We saw octopus fishermen in Portugal, but have never seen their cousins.
I’ll be diving deeper into the Mali Empire later today. I remembered from reading “Roots” in 1976 because it was the year my husband cashed in on my promise to move to Oklahoma (home turf for him) when he found a teaching job in Norman. One of the things I learned from the early chapters and recalled today was that the small Mandinka kingdom, Kinta Kinte’s home was part of that area once called the Mali Empire. MANSAMUSA was mercifully revealed easily. It’s clearly time for me to turn my studies back to more African history.
As for DHAKA, I knew I needed a city (maybe the capital?) in Bangladesh that begins with a D and needed every other letter from the crosses. Color me embarrassed and put it in the “Capital Cities of the World” file upstairs for future reference.
Like DHAKA, I had no earthly idea what a SCATTER PLOT might look like, but I had the full answer without reading the clue. Post-solve, I always switch my view from the full puzzle to the list view, and I check the clues for each answer to read the clues I missed along the way. I whooshed through the entire center third of this one across only, not deliberately, just continued my pace and didn’t read a slew of down clues, SCATTER PLOT among them.
Keep ‘em coming Mr. Judge! This was an enjoyable and instructive Saturday.
@egsforbreakfast Whoops! That's one more mistake than I made in the entirety of solving this puzzle. :D
yep. Old saying. To lead someone down the garden path means to trick them.
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@Anon 8:01PM our dear friends (and after twenty years their 4 kids) moved from Toronto for Chris to get his double DMA in Piano: Performance and Pedagogy. They referred to “home” as TO. Thanks for mentioning it.
And there I was, pleased to finish without lookups despite all the unknown names and sports etc, only to find that the puzzle was “extremely easy”! Needless to say I enjoyed the puzzle
GIANT STEPS is a very important album. Indeed rather EZ PZL
tht is right.
Tom, is that you?
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