Quite some time, antonymously / TUE 11-11-25 / 2021 Pixar film inspired by Italian folklore / Canada's features a unicorn / 1957 Danny & the Juniors hit about a school dance / One singing "The Lonely Goatherd," e.g. / First coin to use the $ symbol / Leaders in assists, typically
Tuesday, November 11, 2025
Constructor: Christina Iverson and Scott Hogan
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (if your time was faster than usual, consider that the grid was smaller than usual)
Theme answers:
- "WHO REALLY KNOWS?" (16A: "It's hard to say")
- "THAT WAS MY FAULT" (37A: It's hard to say)
- WORCESTSHIRE (59A: It's hard to say)
"The Lonely Goatherd" is a popular show tune from the 1959 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The Sound of Music.
The song is well known for its examples of yodeling, a part of the traditional music of the Austrian Alps, where the musical is set. (Maria von Trapp, however, found the yodeling in the motion picture version of The Sound of Music rendition to be lacking in authenticity.) (wikipedia)
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The long Downs helped enhance the solving experience today—six 8+-letter answers, all of them humming. Well, maybe not SERGEANT, which isn't so much humming as ho-humming, but the rest are really nice. I've got quibbles with two of the clues on these answers, though. TEAM PLAYERS is more a metaphorical concept than an actual sports concept. The person with the most assists on a team is just doing their job. Some players are great shooters, some are great passers. Both are TEAM PLAYERS. And someone with a lot of assists might also be an egomaniacal nightmare to play with. "Assists" is just a stat. Yes, it's good to share, but passing the ball (or puck or whatever) is just part of the game; it doesn't necessarily convey what the phrase "TEAM PLAYERS" is meant to convey, metaphorically. Also, I do not like the "antonymously" part of the clue on A HOT MINUTE (10D: Quite some time, antonymously). Your problem here is "HOT," the antonym of which is "COLD," but the clue isn't talking about "HOT," it's talking about the fact that a minute is not literally a "long time" (unless you've got your hand pressed to a hot stovetop—that would be A (very) HOT MINUTE, and also feel like an eternity, probably). I see what "antonymously" is trying to do (even though my software is angrily underlining the very word "antonymously" in hot red), but the "HOT" part is unaccounted for in such a formulation. Further, "A MINUTE" means "a long time" all on its own, slangily. "It's been a minute" means, counterintuitively, "it's been a while." The "HOT" part is just ... extra. What makes this even stranger is that "A HOT MINUTE" can mean a long period time or a very short period of time! It's true. So ... I like the phrase, but the cluing feels ... confusing. Not quite right.
[39D: 1957 Danny & the Juniors hit about a school dance]
The short fill on this one was far less inspiring. I don't expect short to be inspiring at all, really, but I don't expect it to be ... less stale than this: TOLET ENTRE NON EEL OTTER TAO RELO TOME YESM ROWE NYSE ASONE SFO TRON TET (à) TÊTE AAA and the horrific how-do-you-spell-that pairing of AAHS and EWW. Of these, those high on my "please not again" list are RELO (despise) YESM (come on, since when?) ASONE (awk standalone) and ROWE (appears in crosswords much more than his "fame" warrants). Further, it was disappointing to see ERAS clued yet again (and again and again and again) as a Taylor Swift thing, like, ugh, yes, that tour was massive, but Fearless and Folklore are just albums, not ERAS, please stop. ERAS is gonna appear over and over in crosswords, it just is, and it's a fine, real word, so I don't really mind, but any creative clue writer should stop using Swift to clue it for like five years. I declare a moratorium! Use her all you want in clues for other stuff, but the ERA/S angle is played out.
[25D: Singer with the 1998 #1 hit "Nice & Slow"]
- 53D: "You talkin' ___?" ("TO ME") — the generous take on this clue is that it's a deliberate callback to this past Sunday's first themer ("YOU TALKIN' TO ME"). The less generous take (my take) is that TOME is a perfectly good standalone word, go ahead and treat it that way, and if you are really committed to making it a partial, don't use the quote you Just Used Two Days Ago.
- 9A: Building with a "broad side," in an idiom (BARN) — I know this solely from the idiom "couldn't hit the broad side of a BARN," used for someone with particularly bad aim. Yes, that appears to be the one and only way this idiom is used. I like the idiom. I use it. It's colorful. Something about the alliteration. And the absurdity / anachronism of the image (I know that BARNs still exist, but most of us don't live near them, let alone throw at them).
- 24A: 2021 Pixar film inspired by Italian folklore (LUCA) — I confuse animated film titles. Badly. Esp. the four-letter ones. I was thinking of COCO and ended up writing in COCA, which ... is more Colombian than Italian.
- 36A: The "N" of NGO (NON) — NON-Governmental Organization
- 17D: An elver is a young one (EEL) — Time was [chews on straw] [whittles] you'd have to know all about EELs if you wanted to solve a crossword. Like that you catch EELs in an EELPOT and an EELER was also known as a "sniggler." Heck, the grid used to be teeming with ELVERs! And CONGERs and MORAYs. But the old ways have fallen off. These days, folks don't know what "elver" means any more. It's a dang shame. So I'm glad this clue's here to teach 'em. [OK the grid was never "teeming" with ELVERs, but you would see them!]
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- 26D: Canada's features a unicorn (COAT-OF-ARMS) — I didn't even know Canada had a COAT-OF-ARMS. But then I never saw this clue; it just sort of filled itself in.
- 28D: One of the five W's (WHY) — had this as WHO, then got the first themer ("WHO REALLY KNOWS?") and thought, "oh, that's bad." Then looked at WHO and thought "ohhhhh. It's probably not WHO." And the "Y" went in—and, appropriately, it went into the answer "THAT WAS MY FAULT."
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101 comments:
I found it easy, with one lucky guess (the LATTE/LUCA cross). When I had most of WORCESTERSHIRE filled in and read "It's hard to say," I laughed out loud. A very pleasant Tuesday.
Was Rex admitting he misspelled WORCESTERSHIRE? Or was it a misprint?
Easy. Solved without reading the clues for the long answers. Two overwrites, tmi before EWW at 33D and @Rex WHo before WHY at 28D. No WOEs.
POINT GUARD is more accurate and it fit.
Thank you, gramps, for the elver knowledge.
I found the theme to be really cute and fun. Didn’t mind the short stuff since the long downs had some teeth.
Canada has a coat of arms - and it bears a unicorn?? I hope it also has a rainbow.
Sam Cooke’s voice makes me say AAH.
Fine early week puzzle - theme not overly nuanced or tricky but it works. I think we have plenty in DC who find it hard to say THAT WAS MY FAULT.
Drivn’ N’ Cryin’
I liked the long down fill - COAT OF ARMS, AT THE HOP and CULT CLASSIC are pretty nice. I didn’t really know ROWE - needed the crosses and YESM is played. Nice to see @Pablo’s friendly OTTER.
STORMY Monday
Enjoyable Tuesday morning solve. Thanks to all those who served - I loved the year @John X explained all of the military based holidays for us.
Johnny Winter
Coco is set in Mexico, not Colombia.
What is a WHORE ALLY and what do they know? ....oh, uh, never mind.
I had a hard time getting on the same wavelength as this one, even though I discerned the theme without too much pushback. I couldn’t get past TEAM PLAYERS, which is just an awful answer to that clue. And speaking of clues, what’s up with "antonymously"? Is that even a real word - please don’t tell me that we are using made-up words in our clues now as well.
I think I was also a bit of a victim of the wheelhouse effect today (or maybe that should be wavelength, or perhaps even both). SCAB for “crust” didn’t register, for example, and of course I don’t know anything about Degas. STASES didn’t help in that section either. Similarly, ROWE is unknown and I forgot that a SETTEE is a glorified couch, lol. And so it went (that yodel clue was another black hole, for example).
At least the theme answers were all kind of fun to pull together. But Christina and her co-constructor got me pretty good for a Tuesday with the rest of it.
I don’t know about you, but this theme gave me an I’ll-be-darned “Huh!” I’ve just never thought before about the different meanings of “It’s hard to say” – Difficult to know, difficult to admit, difficult to pronounce.
The theme is so solid and interesting, it alone would make this puzzle shine. But Christina and Scott went even farther with those gorgeous long downs.
Look at them!
COAT OF ARMS
CULT CLASSIC
TEAM PLAYERS
A HOT MINUTE
Another plus today is spark. All three theme answers are appearing in the Times puzzle for the first time, as is A HOT MINUTE.
Tying it all together is perfecto Tuesday cluing, IMO, generally in that zone between unconsciously-slap-down and have-to-work-hard-for.
To me, top notch – one splendid outing. Thank you, Christina and Scott!
Except nobody enunciates all the syllables of WORCESTERSHIRE. In England you would just say WOOSTER, which is a pronunciation that, given the spelling, is not at all easy to infer.
That was my first guess, also.
Hey All !
Isn't it pronounced War-chester-shister-shyster Sauce?
As someone who prides himself on seeing that the grid is smaller or larger than normal (WHY? WHO REALLY KNOWS?), I missed today's 14 wide. Bummer.
Neat Theme concept. Three Themers, with four Long Downs criss-crossing twixt them.
Wasn't as easy today as a typical TuesPuz for me today, which is nice. Fill wasn't terrible. Every puz has dreck. Nature of puzzledom.
Have a great Tuesday, and Happy Veterans Day!
Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Love seeing W sauce in the grid. British cousin to the underrated fish sauce. Umami versatile goodness.
I think WORCESTERSHIRE is indeed a mouthful to say and fairly clued! Enjoyed the puzzle.
Felt like a puzzle from thirty years ago and I'm surprised Rex didn't say that. That 'same clue for all the long answers' theme was once fairly common. He rightly calls out the amount of crosswordese - some of which is of course necessary in any puzzle, but today there is just too dang much of it.
He did, rightly, call out that 'antonymously' clue. Don't know whose idea that was, but they should be suspended for two weeks and sent to a re-education facility.
Nice easyish Tuesday. Despite the nits Rex picked, it was a very decent theme. And I agree with with him about the longer down answers -- I even like SERGEANT because it looks interesting to me, and has one of those unintuitive (or counterintuitive -- you happy now, spell-check?) pronunciations that can excite my interest.
I would say that WORCESTERSHIRE is hard or easy to say or spell in about equal parts. The WORCESTER part looks as though it might be missing an H after the C, and it looks as though it might be pronounced in three syllables: those make both the saying and spelling, if not hard, at least tricky in about equal parts. Now, I'm not completely sure what everyone else says, but I pronounce it like "worse + ster + shire", so three syllables (with equally distributed emphasis throughout), and all you have to do is remember that it's a soft C to replace the "s", making the both the saying and spelling easy, in about equal parts.
If the saying were "it can be hard to say", then all three theme answers would meet Rex's objections. Of course that's not the saying, but it's pretty close to the actual saying "it's hard to say". I'm going to give the constructor a pass there.
Benjamin Hoff wrote a follow-up to The TAO of Pooh, titled The Te of Piglet. I found The TAO of Pooh charming and clever (it was about how the character Pooh embodies Taoist precepts), and was looking forward to reading The Te of Piglet when I received it as a Christmas present, both because I liked the first book and because Piglet is far and away my favorite character from those Milne books, for reasons I will not be able to do justice here. But I found The Te of Piglet a little whinier than his first book, in its social commentary. Too bad.
There are so many "words" that deserve to be words, and that I want to be words, either because their meanings are plain and they fulfill a purpose, or because they are sort of playful and fun, and there could be other reasons as well. For example, I wanted to write "themer" above. And "antonymously" has a meaning that is just as obvious as those of "anonymously" and "synonymously". (Funny, that last one also gets the red underline from my spell-check, although it's there in Merriam-Webster). Don't get me wrong -- I don't mind spell-check; in fact I think it's great and I wish people would make greater use of it. But it can be a little prissy and prescriptive at times, and I want to tell it to bugger off at those times. (What I really *do* seriously mind is auto-correct. I want full control over the words I choose, and I hate how it slips substitutions past me unawares.)
It looks to be a beautiful day from where I sit. I hope yours is a good one (sending this wish especially to @CDilly52, who reported a trying day yesterday).
I loved the theme and thought this puzzle was a little chewy for a Tuesday, which is not a bad thing. Couldn't remember LUCA as the Pixar film, but once I got LATTE I worked the west middle out and could fill in COAT OF ARMS, which made the tricky SE easier. Once I had enough letters in and could "see" WORCESTERSHIRE I was home free. (Just love having that word in the puzzle with such an apt clue.) Thanks for a fun solving experience, Christina and Scott!
"WUSS-TER-SHEER" is how I learned it (staying anonymous in case I'm wrong).
Count me among those who liked “TEAM PLAYERS” as an answer o the assists clue. I’ve watched a lot of youth sports and there are always parents who are telling their children to always try to score no matter what the situation. The team players are the kids who pass the ball to others that are more likely to score. I don’t think it applies to professionals.
But where is “coca” from? 🧐
This was one of those puzzles where everything just kinda fell in place as I went along. Last letter to fall was the “U” in LUCA/USHER when “Fall of the house of…” rose from the back of my mind…Thought the themers were whimsically humorous. Hey, it’s a Tuesday, so let’s be TEAMPLAYERS.
Cute puzzle, I enjoyed it. I spent a long time thinking the answer to the clue about Canada ended in FARMS and was totally befuddled.
“Broad side of a barn” is still a meaningful term here in Vermont. In much of the country now it’s probably “broad side of an Amazon fulfillment center.”
Inre: TEAMPLAYERS - @Diane, I was thinking of Cam Thomas of the Nets, who is known for his shoot first mentality. He had a game this year with 40 points and ZERO assists. The term “ball stoppers” is given to players that never pass the ball back out to other players and will always force the action.
@tht, much to the dismay of Southside, I seem to type a lot of foreign words and proper nouns, and hate having them “corrected” - I have to go back and type them in a second time; the auto-correct lets them go on a second pass for some reason.
Wuh-stuh-sher sauce is what I typically hear along with Natick-proximate “Wista” Massachusetts. (Worcester).
Also, NBA players are known to try to pad stats, particularly in years when they are looking for their next contract, leading to less TEAM PLAY.
In short, I like the answer, but agree with RP about the weird HOTMINUTE clue being a hot mess.
I thought this one was pretty hard!! Surprised to see most people found it easy. Liked it a lot, really enjoyed the playful theme.
Yes!
I can’t believe nobody (including Rex) has pointed out the incorrect usage of “penultimate ” in the clue for 35d
Exhibit A in the stat-padding category goes to Russell Westbrook, who has been known to berate teammates for not shooting off of his passes (to pad his assists) or if they grab a rebound away from him. Honorable mention goes to Angel Reese, who can often be seen still in the game during garbage time to pad her rebound totals.
What would you call it?
How so? Isn’t the airport the final stop before Millbrae?
I quickly entered point guard for assist leader. Downhill from there
Good one!
Oops. My bad 😛
Delightful! Lots of sparkle, enough crunch, wide variety.
I'll ask my grandson if his crowd says "In a HOTMINUTE." My crowd says "It's been ages."
Don't you say WOOSTER for WORCESTER, sans SHIRE?
Incidentally, and I apologize in advance for the roughness of this language, but there really used to be streets in medieval and early modern London (and I think elsewhere) called "Grope Cunt Lane" which is where sex workers plied their trade.
The local newscasts here in San Francisco have three or four ads for companies who claim to get big settlements for those who have been injured in car accidents. Sweet James and Berg are two. I take that to mean that car insurance companies aren't being fair in paying claims. Is that just here?
WORCESTERSHIRE, hard to say, that's funny! A friend who went to college in WORCESTER, MA, told me it was pronounced Wooster. You can imagine how I was trying to say it when he corrected me. Ack.
Besides the theme grid spanners, there are so many great entries, especially the four long downs.
Thanks, Christina and Scott, for one of the best Tuesday puzzles ever!
Like Rex, I don't find it hard to say either "My fault" or "Worcestershire;" but so what? These are crossword clues, playing on the stereotypes, just as they should. It was a great theme, especially with them all being 14s.
What I didn't much like was STASES. It's in M-W, but I can't imagine using the plural in conversation. Guess it was needed for the first themer, though.
And while my French is pretty good (as long as I don't have to speak it) having ENTRE and TETE crossing at the final E doesn't seem right.
Same here. Seemed hard for a Tuesday but liked the theme.
Elvers fetch enormous amounts of money. Where I live, elver fishing is a hot political issue touching on Indigenous treaty rights, organized crime, environmental concerns, and more. Wild stuff.
Whoa! I’ve been doing Mondays and Tuesdays downs-only for about 6 or 7 years now and I have never been this stumped. It’s as iif Iverson and Hogan saw me coming and said, “Let’s crush this haughty bastard”. I was getting nowhere, unable to fill in things like A HOT MINUTE next to BANTER and that ROWE guy that I kinda sorta knew, not to mention Forrest Gump’s rank of SERGEANT (I had him as ex-marine). Just a mess.
In my defence, I must say that I have had a really trying day and I am desperately bagged. I spent most of the day trying to construct a 12 by 6 foot foundation out of 2x10s on a sloped mud field in order to build my wife’s new herb garden. Clay mud, the kind of gunk that defies even my tractor, so I was digging by hand. I was saved by the appearance of my youngest son, a builder by trade, but it was still a helluva day’s work and we still have some trimming up to do today before I bring in a few more loads of gravel and rake and level the thing. And then I have to assemble the actual garden bed, a bottomless steel tub my lovely wife order online and which has been sitting in a flat cardboard box on our back porch for about 3 weeks. Oh boy, agrarian IKEA. I can hardly wait.
So, yeah, I really wanted to sleep, but I also really wanted to do the puzzle. I don’t always make good choices. When I decided to abandon the D-O solve - something I haven’t done for many years - things went really quickly. The across answers filled in so easily.
Some really good stuff in this one. The long crosses were great and the long downs were also pretty impressive. Weirdly, I never knew there was a unicorn in my country’s COAT OF ARMS. The Scots have one, too.
Can’t wait to see what @egs and @Gary do with 16A.
14x15 puzgrid after yesterday's 16x15 one. The Universe all evens out, I reckon.
I'm thinkin WORCESTERSHIRE must be kinda hard to pronounce ... when I went to research it at Google, I got about a half dozen different takes on it. Doubly hard, btw, when you're tryin to say "sauce" right afterwards. That part usually comes out as "shosh", for m&e.
staff weeject pick: TET. matches up so elegantly with co-puzgridder TETE. honrable mention to WHY, which, like @RP, I had as WHO for quite a mis-spell. Lost precious nanoseconds.
some fave stuff: The twists in meanin by the grid-spanner themers. ATTHEHOP [we got the 45]. CULTCLASSIC flicks [U also get a lotta schlock flicks, around midnite]. BARN clue. WASP's loner ?-marker clue.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Iverson darlin & Mr. Hogan dude. Cool seed puztheme idea.
Masked & Anonymo5Us
... and now, for a few words from the Patron Saint of Runtpuzs ...
"Dangerfield Punchlines #78" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
YESM is very common in the south.
The assertion that team player is more metaphorical than sports concept is so wrong I don’t know where to begin. Rex is correct that a player with a lot of assists may not be a team player, but that hardly means team players don’t exist. The definition of team player is simple: one who puts the squad before himself. One who seeks the good of the team rather than personal achievement—- which are almost always measured by statistical achievement.
Team players are the ones who run the route crisply and convincingly though they know full well the pass will go,to someone else. It’s the 4 th man off the bench who sets a perfect pick wobbling his teammate to shoot an opener jumper. Those acts aren’t metaphorical, they’re exemplars of the best that sport can offer.
They didn't mince words back then, did they?
In the course of solving, my crosses were such that WHORE with at least one space after it was what appeared there, which certainly got me paying attention to what I was doing. *That* word is "hard to say", in a family publication.
I hear ya. Worse is when I miss that they did that to me. (They could at least ask, couldn't they, instead of automatically assuming. Bloody presumptuous auto-correct.)
Nice memory of watching Abbott and Costello as a kid and Costello pronouncing it as Woostashiresheershauce.
Very cute indeed. And happy to see one of my favorites Worcestershire sauce in the puzzle.
I really liked this. No stumbles, no typos - just whoosh. A nice change, Thank you, Christina & Scott.
(USHER, AT THE HOP (Danny & the Juniors) in the same puzzle was weird but fun :)
The evolution of what constitutes a bad word is interesting. At that time, words referring to bodily functions and effluents were not considered swear words, but anything that was suggestive of taking the lord's name in vain were. So, we ended up with euphamisms like 'gorblimey' and 'streuth' to avoid that.
Then bodily functions became forbidden, and we created words like 'frigging' and 'shucks'.
Now we are moving beyond that - so much so that, for example, "ass", which would have been banned on TV in my youth, is now seen routinely on network shows and, of course, in the New York Times crossword.
And we are moving into an age when the worst words you can say are those that demean other people: think of various slurs for black/hispanic/gay people that you could see on TV forty years ago, but no longer.
The plural STASES is not likely to crop up in my conversation either, but the word "bases" as a plural of "basis" will crop up now and then, especially in mathematical contexts, and I wind up pronouncing it "basees" just to distinguish it from "basis". But this device sometimes creeps into other plural forms I pronounce, and I wind up taking some ribbing for it!
I keep both in my kitchen. I use the "wurst-uh-shur" sauce in gravies or other meat sauces and tend to use my Thai fish sauce in stir-fries and such. Am I guilty of stereotyping? Maybe, but when I have been unable to locate my W sauce, I have subbed in the Asian version. They're quite similar with the British version being a bit "muddier", as old Brit stuff tends to be. Either sauce is a godsend when you taste your holiday turkey gravy and find it lacking something. But what? Umami, of course. Don't have W sauce or fish saucee on hand? A shot of soy might save the day.
For whatever reason, my mind went to baseball and I wanted something like 'shortstops' or 'infielders'.
You forgot to include a hockey example but, other than that, well said.
I don't think my commentary, especially on 16A, was appreciated by the blog gods. Too bad, as there was some mildly humorous stuff in there. But I'll live to fight another day and each of you will as well.
I finished the puzzle and spent a minute trying to figure out the theme, but could not! I never paid any attention to the clue repetition, as it has been so over-used lately I just shake my head when I run into it, then move on.
Interesting trivia about our coat of arms. I've seen it many times, with its motto "A mari usque ad mare", and the lions. Somehow I never really noticed the unicorn!
I enjoyed this one quite a bit. I like the three different spins on something being hard to say—cognitively, emotionally, and phonetically—and when I already had the first two and was trying to parse out the third, I had some some combo of letters that included the internal —ST—R— and tried to find a way to make it TONGUE TWISTERS. Obviously that didn’t work with the letters I already had, but it seemed like it would be a clever third themer with the two I already had. I was delighted when it finally came together; I had the right idea, but the correct answer was far more clever (but not only hard to say if you don’t already happen to know; also hard to spell, as I had some trial-and-error once I figured it out!). On top of the delightful theme, a relatively clean grid with very few proper nouns and abbreviations. I thought it was a perfect Tuesday.
Easy-medium. No WOEs and no costly erasures but a few extra nanoseconds were required to parse the first theme answer (I wondered what WHORE had to do with the clue) and a couple of the long downs.
Fun/amusing theme, liked it a bunch!
I hate to say but team player does fit one who would have more assists rather than take the shot all the time
Some situations call for reaching beyond the team. I just learned about the very sad passing of Alex Vesia's baby girl Stirling during the course of the World Series. Alex is a relief pitcher for the Dodgers and he was excused from the Series to cope with the stillbirth of his and his wife Karla's daughter, Stirling. The Dodger pitchers added a small "51" to their caps to show support for Alex, whose number is 51. And then, in all of the intensity of Game 6, as Toronto was calling on its bullpen, Dodger players noticed that the Toronto relievers also added small 51s to their caps.
Have you ever been to Worcester, Mass
They're both fiddly pronunciations, I think. I hear Worcester pronounced more like "Wuhstur," or maybe "W'ster." Sometimes I hear a bit of a swallowed "r" in there, and almost no "r" at the end: "W(r)stuh"?
Add the "shire," and things get really ambiguous. I think most people here in the USA who have an idea of how it's pronounced say something like "Wustashurr." But I still hear a bit of that swallowed "r," and maybe an ending more like "shah" when it's spoken by a Brit.
That is to say, I thought it was a legitimate fit to the clue.
He started as a private, but held the rank of SERGEANT by the time he was honorably discharged.
@egs. Yes, too bad.I was looking forward to your take. I had a couple of options lined up but knew yours would be funnier, Too bad, indeed.
I believe he was both, as he was promoted to sergeant before he was discharged. Btw, it is not necessary to shout at us.
@kitshef, re your last point, sometimes it goes too far. I used to work for a log home company, and one of the options for log building is "chinked", meaning the gap between the logs is filled with a sealant. (Think "chink in the armor".) The word is not slang or pejorative; we used it every day. But since that word can also be a slur, it's off limits in many places. But what do we call the log style: "caulked"? Oops, that sounds a bit bawdy.
Isn’t BAWL blabber and not BLUBBER?
The above was me. I forgot to check if I was logged on.
I thought it was a very clever theme and variations on both "say" and "hard," moving from a restatement of the phrase to two different illustrations. Great insight by the constructor of the possibilities - not to mention finding three entries of the same length.
@Anon 6:41AM: another hand up for point guard!
@Anon 7:13AM et al: one of the things I love most about my lawyer life is that it led me to truly study language in order to craft my most persuasive arguments. I wrote for two state Supreme Court Justices both of whom were “cunning linguists” (to continue the replies re language). All to say that this comment and the replies demonstrate one of the reasons I enjoy this blog so much. And @okanaganer, after my husband and I laughed ourselves silly when installing a new toilet (that’s all the explanation you get), I try to pronounce the “l” when I “caulk.”
@kitshef8:31: I thought so too. There’s a bunch of us here who remember solving “30 years ago.”
Thanks for that @Liveprof. It literally brought tears to my eyes seeing such a wonderful example of sportsmanship - TEAM PLAYERS all!
Life tip: ever get a song stuck in your head that won't go away? Try replacing it with "Lonely Goatherd," a song that simply will not stick. I've shared this with dozens of people, and it almost always works. Though I still pity the person who had Goatherd itself turn into an ear worm. Hope it's gone by now...
I just had lunch with my grandson. He's in his mid-twenties. He sometimes uses "AHOTMINUTE."
Awww, @egs, like @Les S, I knew you would have a banner day today. 😢
Thanks @Liveprof for reminding us of this spectacular example of sportsmanship and community from so many TEAM PLAYERS.
Still looks like “whore all y’knows” to me…
This one cheered me up. I love constructors with the ability to use the same words in a clue for all the theme answers. This collaboration hit all the right notes of tone and context. I think OFL must have solved a different puzzle than I did, or he was just in an über picky mood, and of course he’s entitled to his opinion, but after some days of oddly unsatisfying solves, today was such fun.
Can’t quite figure out why @Rex had such a burr under his saddle about the actual theme answers. Each was completely appropriate, correctly fit the clue’s tone and context, and made total sense.
Other than a slow start with both 1A and 1D the puzzle was indeed pretty easy, as it should be on Tuesday. I needed the easy ACRES and LONGEST to get BAWL and BOTS (hallelujah! Not sobs or weep - the usual crosswordese). My one real tough one was the Pixar film, LULU. I thought “Coco” (a truly charming film if you want to see something that will make you happy) at first, but upon checking 24D knew that was LATTE. Went all downs through there and learned about a Pixar that I have not seen. Fortunately our dynamic duo gave us very easy crosses.
Great day today; sun is shining, the fall colors are brilliant, and my bathroom is once again clean and fresh smelling. Yesterday in my crisis, I had to use every single towel I own and two small bathroom rugs to stanch the overflow from both my toilet and the spewing shower drain. Note that my tiny house is 100% ADA compliant and everything is on one smooth level. I have never been happier about sticking to my guns and having poured concrete floors!
My water bill will be extra high this month because I ran everything through the wash twice on hot last night and the towels now seem to be fit for human use. I call that a win despite the fact that flushing terrifies me. But my new best friend Skyler the Plumber is installing an overflow valve on my sewer access tomorrow so if it happens again, it will all spew outside my house
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The bad news? The giant clog was a huge mass of roots that grew into an old and poorly executed “fix” (just like every other poorly executed fix on my kids’ old house) about 60 feet down from the new part of the system - my house. The clog was actually in my kids’ pipe. So now we have to replace about 10 feet of pipe - correctly this time or the roots will just come back. We will do it quickly. Home ownership is grand. Until tomorrow . . .
Even in England we don’t all agree on the pronunciation, but where I’m from we’d say ’wuss’ then a slightly aspirated ‘t’ then ‘sh’ - defo no r’s pronounced from our side…
Es difícil decir: "Hola, marinero".
Here. This one. A magnificent puzzle. Joyous from top to bottom.
My mom pronounced it worst-eh-sheer, so that's undoubtedly correct.
I'm amused by the notion that CAPTCHA is blocking BOTS. Blockees. I think of it as a "way in" for real people. Nonblockees. It's the same really, but it's going to lead to the rise of the machines and the war between humans and their digital overlords as we try to convince a bot that we're not a bot.
I know after a day on the moors and scolding the servants, I too plop onto my parlor SETTEE lest I swoon.
There's a pleasant rabbit hole I dove into surrounding the Little Mermaid and it's various controversies and its more hilarious counterpart in the Big Mermaid. The upshot is the Big Mermaid statue is too risque for some and both statues are rather disappointing for many.
Sometimes crossword puzzles seem to be taking writing instructions from me: "antonymously?"
❤️ Stingy sort. YODELER. Blubber. CULT CLASSIC. EWW.
People: 5
Places: 0
Products: 7
Partials: 8
Foreignisms: 5
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 25 of 71 (35%)
Funny Factor: 6 😅
Tee-Hee:
Uniclues:
1 Phrase reparsed for the not-ready for prime time unicluist.
2 Sofa for an NBA player.
3 What most American voters did last year.
4 God shoots a Frenchman in the brain and causes romantic angst.
5 Fun activity after Christmas if you throw your tree from a third story window.
6 Very quiet Alpen crooner.
7 I think it's either 7 or 9 in Barcelona.
8 My title when I have the remote.
9 The way of the bad movie.
10 Egotists.
11 "Dude she's looking at you," and "Do you think I should talk to her?"
12 Me trying to take a T-shirt off on air.
1 WHORE ALLY KNOWS
2 LONGEST SETTEE
3 ELECT "GEM"
4 EROS AILS TETE
5 FIR CATCH
6 YODELER STATUE (~)
7 OCHO USHER TO ME
8 SERGEANT SIT-COM
9 CULT CLASSIC TAO
10 ALT TEAM PLAYERS
11 BANTER AT THE HOP
12 A HOT MINUTE LIVE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: What a noted over-eager canine keeps in his pants. BIG BAD WOLF ANTS.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@CDilly, I can sympathize. A month ago my sewer backed up for the second time in 8 years. Fortunately, 8 years ago when the plumbers replaced my entire sewer line (yes, tree roots!) they installed several cleanouts between the house and the alley where the sewer main is. This time the plumber quickly found that once again tree roots were blocking it, but on the city property, beyond my lot line! So the city dug that up and replaced it for free (I hope!). It took a month, but as of last Thursday, the paving is done so that's a relief.
Mm... I don't think so. To blabber (compare "blabbermouth") means to talk foolishly and excessively. "Blubber" is a common synonym of the words "sob", "bawl", etc.
Anonymous 10:22 AM
As JeffLeft was saying, many New Englanders say Woostah with a short u. In England many place names’ pronunciations-were simplified over the centuries but the spelling stayed the same. And often the original spellings survived here. As literacy spread in the early 19th century there was a tendency to teach children to pronounce these names as written. For example, in RI East Greenwich is pronounced both like Greenwich Village in NYC and as spelled. Similarly Warwick (War-ick) . But Worcester is always pronounced the shorter way in New England.
Wooster in Ohio attempted to solve the problem by changing the spelling but then how is the oo pronounced. Don’t have a clue, too lazy to look up.
@egsforbreakfast 12:41 PM
So proud of you.
tht.As I said earlier, in New England there is no r in the first syllable of Worcester MA. nor for many in the second syllable
Woostah (short u). The English say it like you do but with no r sounds at the end of each syllable. I was startled to learn today that most Americans say the r in the first syllable of Worcesterhire.
BTW cester/caster , variant place name endings in England come from the Latin CASTER meaning (military) camp.
But Luca was the answer…
How can you not like this one? I'm picturing the constructors musing over the different meanings of "It's hard to say" - BRILLIANT! On top of that, those themers all share the same letter count and all span the grid! That's great stuff! Add the lovely long downs and you've really got a winner today.
A bit more resistance than many Tuesdays which is always welcome. I had a real brain hiccup on 1D - first had WAIL, then misspelled BAWL putting in Ball (??), so the first themer took way too long. When I looked at _ _OREALLYKNOWS, the W and H refused to come to mind. I FINALLY realized the correct spelling of BAWL and all fell just fine, just a little slowly.
What a clever theme, with brilliant (did I already use that word? Well, this is a comment, not the Xword so I'll allow it) execution and some great fill. Thank you Christina and Scott!
As usual I disagreed with Rex as he criticized a theme answer. Worcestershire sauce I think that the comments today show very clearly that it is hard to say. And not just the first encounter.
The same with a down, team player. The comments show it isn’t just metaphorical. They showed that saying assists in basketball is just someone’s job made no sense. To be fair to Rex he liked the puzzle. But the rants were really strange today.
Good puzzle, good theme. Easy medium for me.
@okanaganer: the video cameras for sewer systems are so helpful! Glad your mess this time gets to be the city’s headache.
Last week, 90% of people found a puzzle incredibly hard and I breeze through it. This week, 90% of people found today's puzzle rather easy, and I had perhaps my worst Tuesday time ever- and apparently on a smaller puzzle, nonetheless! What a world.
This reminds me of when the pump on our septic system died - right before we expected our guests to arrive for our housewarming party. An emergency call to have the septic drained saved the party, but then we had to find the problem. It wasn’t the pump, it was the electrical. And after digging a trench to find the wire, my husband concluded the wiring had failed under our cement patio slab. Critters? Or bad luck? But new wiring was needed. What a pain.
@Cdilly: now when I'm screencasting to my TV, I like to ask my guests: wanna see the video of my sewer?
In one episode of The Three Stooges, Moe tries repeatedly to pronounce Worcestershire correctly and, when he can’t do so, exclaims in frustration “I can’t pronounce Worcestershire!” while pronouncing it correctly. A bit of irony that is subtler than most of the Stooges’ humor.
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Is EGGPLANT PARM really just what people call this dish? I am surprised the clue didn't have any indicators for being a informal/shortened version of "Eggplant Parmesan"
Wheelhouse effect… that approaches the misery that I experienced, but it’s too simple. Sometimes a critical mass of failures on my first pass will trigger a crush of confidence that send me into a dizzying obtuseness spiral.
Suddenly, my brain gets tentative and risk-averse and everything becomes a struggle. That seemed to happen here when the only answers I could manage inside the top 5 lines were AHOY, GEM, OCHO, EEL and ATL…… ack! That stinks!
Spiral of Obtuseness Protocols: ON.
From there I floundered like a raft made of croissants and kite string until my stupid lazyass spirit animal woke up and turned the headlights back on for the bottom third. From there I worked my way up near full capacity, only for PTSD to kick in with my return to the scene of the crime at the top. Getting LONGEST and SETTEE broke the logjam, exposing a good five, six downs that I should have been able to noodle in stride at first round speed, but… The devil take that woman, for you know she tricked me easy… Or so sayeth the song.
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