Little tipple, cutesily / SUN 4-13-25 / Creative motivation in onlinen slang / Fig. that never starts with 666 / Research on a political rival, for short / Members of the "third team," jocularly / Young DC Comics sidekick with a lightning bolt on his chest / Antidepressant type, in brief / 1982 Benjamin Hoff best seller on Eastern philosophy, with "The" / Cleans up after a dirty guest? / Gallup's bailiwick / Retail magnate James Cash ___ / Third largest tech hub in North America
Sunday, April 13, 2025
Constructor: John Kugelman
Relative difficulty: Easy
Theme answers:
- PROCESSION'S CONCESSIONS (23A: Popcorn and pretzels at a parade?)
- PROTESTANT CONTESTANT (42A: Someone who might excel at a Bible trivia game?)
- CONTRACTOR'S PROTRACTORS (67A: Tools of the trade?)
- CONFESSION PROFESSION (86A: Police interrogator or priest?)
- CONVOCATION PROVOCATION (110A: Angry words at a school assembly?)
Kid Flash is the name of several fictional superheroes appearing in comic books published by DC Comics, originally created by John Broome and Carmine Infantino, as a junior counterpart to DC Comics superhero The Flash. The first version of the character, Wally West, debuted in The Flash #110 (1959).[1] The character, along with others like the first Wonder Girl, Aqualad, and Speedy, was created in response to the success of Batman's young sidekick Robin. These young heroes would later be spun off into their own superhero team, the Teen Titans. As Kid Flash, Wally West made regular appearances in Flash related comic books and other DC Comics publications from 1959 through the mid-1980s until the character was reinvented as the new version of The Flash.
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The first themer was the worst, to my ears, because I don't really see where the "apostrophe-S" is coming from. PROCESSION'S CONCESSIONS? Wouldn't you just use the noun (PROCESSION) adjectivally? You know, the way you use CONVOCATION in CONVOCATION PROVOCATION. Like, you'd say "amusement park rides," not "amusement park's rides." Maybe if the clue on PROCESSION'S CONCESSIONS had left open the possibility that "procession" was plural, that would've helped as I could've imagined it as a plural possessive (CONTRACTORS'), but in the clue it's adamantly singular (there's just the one "parade"), so ... I dunno. I honestly left that final "S" in PROCESSION'S off for a bit because it sounded so awkward. Sadly, that "S" was right in the middle of the hardest answer in the puzzle: NO SAINT (9D: A flawed person). By "hard" I mean I could not parse it forever. Needed almost every cross. I must've mentally inserted that last "S" from PROCESSION'S at some point to help me out. This is almost the only thing I remember about solving this puzzle, and as you can see, it's not exactly a good memory.
There's not much I actively like about this puzzle. I like that the CAT answer (LAP CAT) is crossing the DOG answer (LEAD DOGS). I like the words OPPO (63D: Research on a political rival, for short) and INSPO (59D: Creative motivation in online slang), and now I get to think of them as a couple (mingling at a rather dull party). I'm not sure I like DRINKY-POO, but it definitely stands out as one of the more original and lively answers in the puzzle today, so I'll take it (72A: Little tipple, cutesily). Oh, and YOINKS! Always welcome. Do I like that OKD and KOD are here, that ONE is duped (OLD ONES, AS ONE) and POP is duped (EUROPOP, POP CAN)? Do I like the word ATONER? The answer is "I do not" in all cases. In a puzzle with a killer theme, it's unlikely that I'd've noticed any of these infelicities. Or they wouldn't have lingered in my mind, at any rate.
Bullets:
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Bullets:
- 15A: Antidepressant type, in brief (SSRI) — gah, hardest single square in the puzzle for me, that first "S." I just blanked on it. Wanted MSRI ... maybe from MSRP (Manufacturer's Standard Retail Price)???! Or MMORPG??? And the "S" cross was semi-brutally clued (15D: Something added to a plot = SOIL). Oh, a plot. I thought you meant a plot. Like in a book. So I wanted FOIL. Sigh, as for SSRI ... SSR was bad enough as crosswordese (colonizing the grid at least as thoroughly as the Soviets colonized Eastern Europe for many decades there)—now I gotta deal with a bulked-up SSR: the SSRI. Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. Gotta remember that. When I asked my brain what SSRI stood for, it was like "blah blah blah uptake inhibitor?" So we're getting there.
- 30A: Fig. that never starts with 666 (SSN) — This is how you will know the antichrist—by the first three digits of his social. If you gotta clue SSN (yet again), then sure, go nuts. I like this clue.
- 62A: 1982 Benjamin Hoff best seller on Eastern philosophy, with "The" ("TAO OF POOH") — I know this book exists solely because of crosswords. It's used in clues for both TAO and POOH ... whoa, nope, I'm wrong; it's never been used in a clue for POOH. Only TAO (many times, as recently as Christmas Eve last year). Weird that POOH has appeared in the NYTXW close to 100 times since THE TAO OF POOH came out and not once has it been used as a POOH clue (despite its frequent use in TAO clues). Anyway, it will surprise no one that this is the first time the full title (minus definite article) has appeared in the grid. The letter combos are so improbable that I kinda like it TAOOF! That letter string alone, mwah. It's like someone was starting to say "table" or "taffy" or "talk" and got interrupted by a punch in the stomach.
- 75A: Beach day bummer (RAIN) — when (sun)BURN didn't work, I was out of ideas.
- 84A: Cleans up after a dirty guest? (BLEEPS) — I confess I don't understand "guest" here. Did Christopher Guest swear on family television and you had to bleep it. Is it a dirty guest ... appearance on a tv show? Because I don't know where bleeping (as in "cleaning up" language) is happening except on screen. And so I need to get that "guest" on screen, somehow, to make the clue make sense. Oh, is it a talk show guest? OK. I guess that works. Thank you for bearing with me through my mental processing. Sometimes you just gotta talk it out.
- 94A: Retail magnate James Cash ___ (PENNEY) — wait, his name has "Cash" and PENNEY in it? They were really grooming him for magnate status, weren't they? I haven't been in a J.C. PENNEY's in so long, I wasn't sure they still existed. And yet it looks like we have a PENNEY's right here in town, at the Oakdale Mall, which still exists somehow. How retro. Might have to check it out.
- 37D: Third largest tech hub in North America (TORONTO) — oh is that why my stepbrother commutes there several times a month from Carmel, CA. I was like "cool city, but kinda random." Apparently not.
- 57D: Poet with four Pulitzers (FROST) — in five letters, I wanted ELIOT. O'HARA didn't live long enough. SEUSS would've been funnier.
- 75D: Members of the "third team," jocularly (REFS) — have not heard this expression. Thought "is this what we're calling the BIS now?" But then BIS didn't fit, much to my disappointment.
Going to pour coffee down my gullet now. See you next time.
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82 comments:
Easy. Solved after a grueling car trip. Most of the difficulties were in the North.
Overwrites:
1A: sled DOGS before LEAD
9D: NO angel (confidently) before NO SAINT
17D: sINGLET before RINGLET. I know nothing about hair terminology
19A: phonO JACK before AUDIO
34D: Briefly tried to convince myself that LYoN is a Boston suburb
WOEs:
SSRI at 15A. This one won't stick. The only reason I didn't get the happy music first time around (see 17D)
ONCOLOGY as clued at 28A. I never watched House
KID FLASH at 31A
PRAT as clued at 56A
I resisted POP CAN (92D) until it became inevitable. I call them soda cans.
I'm old enough to remember CYD CHARISE but I hesitated at 114D, thinking her name might be sYD
A plug, not a jack, is on the end of a headphone cable, but I suppose 19A refers to a headphone extension cable with a plug on one end and inline jack on the other.
Grokked the pairing at top tier straightaway, notwithstanding inauspicious start in clapping in 'samoyedS' at 1d at the gun - the misstep likely putting me a skosh over Sunday best.
Exited the NW, dropped curtain on remainder, returning to it and then due W to wrap entirety with R and P, in RIP ON. LAP CAT? Weak sauce. In addition to OLD ONES, POP CAN, AUDIO JACK, etc, Zzz.
We've seen this Sunday device before, better employed.
Vacillations? A greener Rip might have replied aye, over the Y at 94a x 95d, but YOINKS has been played before. Elsewise, bubkes.
If we call the David Kwong art heist (2024-12-15) a 10, then this, about a 4. So, not a fiasco..
Also, who says, 'DRINKY POO' ? Your beret'd, boa-clad aunt in the Elton Johns? I don't think so. Get that fey nonsense out of here.
Big "surely I'm missing something" energy on this theme. Also, OLDONES is an oof.
This is John Kugelman's eighth Sunday NYT puzzle since the start of 2024, and this is the first one that really flat for me. Adding to the slog was that it was 22 letters wide. I will admit to getting a chuckle out of DRINKYPOO.
I disagree with Rex about the theme (surprise, surprise), which I liked (because it aids in the solving). Once in a while it's refreshing to fill in the theme entries first and solve around it. I especially liked PROTESTANTCONTESTANT.
Like Rex I had "foil" instead of SOIL because I assumed the plot was part of a story. I also needed an alphabet run to get SEAHAG.
The big guy nailed it today. Not only is the theme elementary and sluggish - the boatload of 3s and 4s resulting from the grid layout are tough to get through.
BORIS the Spider
Side eye to the EURO POP - POP CAN pair. Nothing like a little ONCOLOGY, DRINKY POO and YOINKS on Sunday morning. Make it stop was in an internal loop during this solve.
Mike NESS
I am fondly taken back to @Nancy’s elegant discussion on the greatness of RIME here some time ago.
This one should have had a warning label on it. Proceed with caution.
Ford and Fitzroy
I liked the echoes. In the theme answers, the second word echoed the first. Outside the theme, there was DAT and DOT, LOOKIE and DRINKY, APT and PTA. Then there was an echo of Thursday’s “diminutive ending” puzzle in RINGLET -- as [Ringlet?] could be a clue for TINKLE.
This was a tight theme. In XwordInfo, Jim Horne has presented a huge computer-generated list of word pairs like these theme answers, but none of them work well, IMO, except for these theme answers. I mean, what can you do, for instance, with PROVINCECONVINCE or CONFUSEPROFUSE?
Although a cute possibility on that list is PROVOCONVO, which could perhaps be clued [Beehive State chat?].
I liked seeing the rare-in-crosswords five-letter palindrome TOPOT, as well as the lovely PuzzPair© of AUTO and TOWIT. And even after cracking the gimmick, the theme answers were fun to guess at, because they weren’t obvious.
Your puzzle left me smiling, John, and that’s a gift. Thank you!
[Capitol gain?]
CONGRESS PROGRESS
No apostrophe “s” (or periods or spaces) in JCPenney.
A generous supposition, @Anonymous 5:13.
"Do I like the word ATONER? The answer is 'I do not' in all cases" conjures up the paraphrase "I do not like them, Rex I am!"
I thought this was cute. The fact that John Kugelman has published yet another Sunday makes one wonder about other submissions. Are they really so bad? Won't the NYT work with some constructors a little, rather than publish the same constructor(s) repeatedly? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy JK's puzzles but with many submissions, there must be other worthy ones out there.
OK, on to some comments. I had SLEDDOGS for a while but when none of the crosses worked, came round to LEADDOGS. DRINKYPOO was a guess -- didn't like this, and to me, OPFO (as in Opponent Info) was a viable answer but DRINKYFOO sounded worse. DRINKYPOO reminded me of the H.R. Pufnstuf character, Witchiepoo.
PENNEY... Ah, memories. I know we shopped at JCPenney as adults, but I seem to remember when we were growing up, the store at the King of Prussia mall was "Penney's" without the JC. The other big department store there was John Wanamaker. (The internet and Wikipedia tell me this is true: "JCPenney (colloquially Penney's and abbreviated JCP).") Quite an apropos middle name for a retail magnate!
I had a hard time maintaining enough interest to see this one through to the end. The theme entries were more of an annoyance than anything I would be interested in - nothing witty, fun or cute about the theme clues or answers.
Then you get piled on with stuff like KID FLASH, INSPO, TONY STARK and even EUROPOP (genres are another annoyance - who makes those things up?). Oh well, if you enjoyed it, more power to you. Just not my cuppa today.
I was sure we were going to get an earful from Rex about having “many a dog owner” crossing LEADDOGS.
The NYT Crossword turned into a Denny’s placemat so gradually nobody even noticed.
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Agree on easy. Puz had it's PROs and CONs. 😁
Puz grid is 22 wide, in case y'all didn't notice. Themers are 22 and 20 letters long, so grid had to go wider. More answers with fast times = easy puz.
Like I'm betting 95% of youse, I had theFLASH in for KIDFLASH. Am up on Marvel and DC movie heroes, but apparently not up on the Comic Books themselves. Example, had never known there was a red Hulk until he was in a movie. Strange how I'm not into comics, yet enjoy the movies. There are many characters in the Comics that are unknown to me.
There's a triple stagger step of POO in center, YAOOFPOOH, POORBOX, DRINKYPOO.
MATRIX over TIME LOOP is neat
I'm guessing California's Silicone Valley is the First largest tech hub in North America?
Enjoyed the puz. A few stumbles hither and YONDER, but nothing too egregious. Nice puz, fun clues, easy. OKD, IM OUT!
Happy Sunday.
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This was easy other than TOPOT crossing PRAT, neither of which I have ever heard of.
Caught on after two PRO / CONS and as OFL points out, that made the themers fill-in-the-blanks easy, but that didn't bother me too much, as I'm in a hurry this AM. Agree that the PROCESSIONS answer with the implied apostrophe is awkward. I tried to make it PROCESSIONAL, maybe in honor of Palm Sunday, but that wouldn't work.
No idea on SSRI, which had to be right. We have a POO and a POOH, and if I never hear anyone say DRINKYPOO again, that will be fine with me.
Our local JCPENNEY store is kaput and has been for some time. There it sits, all forlorn. Our local paper ran a suggestion from a columnist that it be repurposed as a bowling alley, which would be fine with me, as the nearest one as things stand is thirty miles away.
What an awful Sunday, JK. Ha ha, Just Kidding. Maybe not gourmet stuff but perfectly serviceable Sunday fare, and thanks for a fair amount of fun.
There’s a reason you’re wondering about JCPenney -
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/business/jc-penney-bankruptcy-coronavirus.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
I was amazed that the constructor came up with that many examples of PROs and CONs (and CONFESS I didn’t notice it - I never see the titles or hints).
Count me on the DRINKYPOO is embarrassing and disqualifying side. About as infantile as the puzzle on the whole.
Classic Rex: "This is how you will know the antichrist—by the first three digits of his social."
When the theme answers are as unvaried as this, repeating the same trick each time in the same way, it makes the puzzle really easy to solve. Once I had the trick at the first one to appear -- PROCESSIONS CONCESSIONS, which was the hardest one, btw -- I was able to fill in every theme answer without crosses. What kept me going on with the rest of the puzzle was the fact that the rest of the fill and clues were pretty challenging by Sunday standards -- especially in the NW. SLED DOG before LEAD DOG made that section much harder.
But oh, the baby talk! Now, you may not know this, John, but everyone on the Rexblog has known it for a long time. I hate baby talk. I like grown-up puzzles. So what can I say about a puzzle that has DRINKY POO, INSPO, YOINKS, OPPO, DAT and LOOKIE in it? And I haven't even mentioned the usual crosswordese partials like KOD, OKD, OJS, and DOO. Or does DOO belong in the baby talk list?
I don't remember your other puzzles being like this, John. I don't remember a lot of baby talk and other glue. But then I NIE remember anything. I'll go back and take a look.
Haha! I like it
Never heard the phrase of something going TO POT, so that held me up for a while. And can anyone explain to me how “precis” = RECAP? I speak rudimentary French and even this is baffling to me.
Had snowDOGS before LEAD DOGS probably because I'm a 30 Rock fanatic (5DOG5NOW5 anyone?). Similarly confused by the apostrophe, but didn't let it ruin my morning. It was another one of those Sundays that I know wouldn't challenge or surprise - just a benign way to spend a half hour on a rainy Sunday morning. I didn't even realize there was a PRO/CON thing until reading the write-up.
I had swEEPS before BLEEPS, which I assume was the constructor's intention - so that may help explain the weird clue.
28:41
Take a lookie-loo at drinky-poo parallel with Tao of Pooh. @Roo, thank you for pointing out the TIME LOOP and MATRIX pair and @Lewis, for AUTO + TOWIT!
Now, on to waffles.
DNF - Wanted FOIL for PLOT element, and F was as good as any letter on the cross.
Yesterday's and today's puzzles are the worst weekend-sequence of puzzles I can recall in 70 years of doing the NYTXW.
NGL. I found this one double plus unfun. Oh well.
I never would have guessed New York is the second biggest tech hub in North America. I would have guessed the SF Bay Area at #1 followed by Seattle. But according to
this site , which ranks the areas based on the number of tech jobs, NY is indeed #2! Seattle isn't even in the top 5 and is behind Dallas!!
Over four decades ago, I bought a pair of pants at JCPenney. They were cheap and comfortable and since they weren't jeans I wore them to work now and then. I was riding home on the subway one day and was exhausted. Of course, there were no seats, but then I noticed that there was one open space. It was because right next to it was a poor homeless man who was in pretty bad shape. He hadn't showered or shaved or laundered his clothes in a long time and nobody wanted to sit next to him. I assessed the space and determined that I could squeeze myself in and still leave enough of a buffer between me and the homeless gentleman. I was so tired I went for it. It was great to sit. After a few stops I glanced over at the poor fellow and noticed he was wearing the exact same pants as me. I guess I wasn't the fashion plate I fancied myself to be. When my kids chide me for how I dress I remind them of that story.
I enjoyed this one a lot. I don't always love Sundays. I'll take this kind of transparency over the forced "cleverness" that we sometimes see. My only nit is PROTESTANTCONTESTANT is rhythmically different from the others when spoken.
For anyone who was underwhelmed by this puzzle, may I recommend today's Sunday Magazine Cryptic. I always like these, but I liked this one more than most. The clue types have a lot of variety, are playful, and all seemed very fair to me -- not something I can always say about all Cryptics. A really enjoyable challenge, I thought.
Easy and very whooshy. My solve went so quickly I didn’t notice the PRO/CON theme until after I finished.
No costly erasures and the only WOE that was not inferable was AUTO.
Very clever, but @Rex is right about dull. Didn’t hate it.
Challenging for me. DNF because I had RATSy-INSPy at 79A and 59D.
I believe he was using the word precis as it is used in English - as a "summary or abstract of a text or speech".
I enjoyed the puzzle. I thought the "pro" and "con" device was clever and I needed the ease of some of the themed answers to get the crosses. One tiny nit to pick - this puzzle is published in the New York Times and here we drink soda, not pop! : )
1. Big deal about electrical transmission?
2. Fatty food earnings?
3. Documented rights of sex workers?
(answers below)
I was fortunate to be solving this with my friend Ron, who happens to be an expert on the ranking of tech hubs in North America. So when I needed to know the third largest one, I had only to turn TORONTO get the answer.
In a PRO/CON themed puzzle, what is the non-themer PROSPER (88D) doing in the grid? Must be a CONSPERacy!
This may not have been fun enough to elicit any shouts of LOOKIE YONDER, but it was still kinda fun to fill in all but the first themer without any crosses (hi @Nancy!). Thanks, John Kugelman.
1. CONDUCTIONPRODUCTION
2. CONFITPROFIT
3. PROSTITUTIONCONSTITUTION
"I mean, what can you do, for instance, with PROVINCECONVINCE or CONFUSEPROFUSE?"
I'll accept that challenge, Lewis:
1. Trump's tariff policies since March: CONFUSION PROFUSION
2. U.S. town with the most Evangelicals: CONVINCE PROVINCE
Agree with others this very easy because after the 1st breaks the code, the theme answers practically fill themselves in. Annoying how contrived they were. Like really bad puns you might find in a word game magazine for beginners. The one thing I had no problem with was SSRI and I really don’t understand why others have an issue with it. It’s the most (over)subscribed class of medications, not baseball trivia (which I do love). Surely everyone is familiar with the first and best know SSRI, Prozac? Now we have Paxil, Lexapro, Zoloft, the list goes on.
DJT is a PRO at being a CON.
I just checked your puzzle page on xword, John, and it turns out that I've loved your previous puzzles. Especially the clever, imaginative, and entertaining "Teacher's Marks". Forgive me for having forgotten, but then I forget everything.
No puzzle beyond a 5x5 grid is ever “easy” for me [sigh] but this one was definitely among the less difficult. On the other hand, the alliterations were kinda fun, and the baby talk was more silly fun, so grinned a bit. Thought Rex had a point on the apostrophe subject, but then crosswords seem to overlook apostrophes all the time, so no biggie. Had not focused on the pros and cons until coming here, just the alliterations. Also missed the prevalence of POO phrases that @Roo caught—yet more baby talk to bug @Nancy. Silly humor for all to like or dislike as the case may be.
This was so jarring to me right out of the gate that I was distracted for a good portion of the solve, thinking either I was mistaken or it would somehow play into the theme. I was "meh" about the rest of the puzzle, but that clue/answer dupe *crossing*--at the *beginning*
no less!--was just egregious.
I’m surprised that you didn’t use this opportunity to show a video for Pet Shop Boys’ “It’s a Sin.”
This was easier than the usual Sunday. I didn't know KID FLASH, TAO OF POOH & had Forget It for IGNORE IT forever, but it was cute & I enjoyed it. I don't mind not being tormented . Thank you, John :)
[In, out, in, out, in, out..]
I know you teed that up, LewLew. *wink*
Also, +1 @"This is how you will know the antichrist.." 😃
Out current POOTUS is PROBIZCONBIZ.
Puz CON:
Not a real humorous SunPuztheme, as would be preferred. But at least not much of a humorous slog, thanx to the PRO & CON and repeated gimme parts of each themer.
Puz PRO:
Lotsa primo poopy stuff: TAOOFPOOH. DRINKYPOO. POORBOX.
staff weeject picks: PRO & CON.
with honrable mention therefore to: PRO-SPER & PRO-MDATE.
Thanx, Mr. Kugelman dude. U sure like to crank out them SunPuzs! [ergo: Pro-SunPuz]
Masked & Anonymo3Us
... and for a semi-pro dessert ...
"Two-Part Disharmony" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
We've seen a *verry* similar theme before; I think it was maybe a Schrodinger theme? I remember the CONTRACTOR / PROTRACTOR answer... searches on xwordinfo.com... ah, Joel Fagliano, Tues July 16 2013. It was not a Schrodinger; two different answers were clued "One might be seen around a construction site", etc, etc. (That may have been even more fun on a Thursday with the Schrodinger trick!) Personally I didn't mind this version too much, *for a Sunday*.
Hands up for SLED DOGS then HEAD DOGS. I kinda knew the 15 across antidepressant because I was on one once... all I could think of was SUI for "Serotonin Uptake Inhibitor"... oh, I was real close.
The C in CYD Charisse really threw me a curve! And language classes come in handy again for MOT and NIE.
p.s.
Some usual M&A typos to be corrected…
1. POOTUS is in the PROBIZ CONBIZ. Thought one thing and typed another. POOTUS is definitely not a typo, tho.
2. not much of a *humorousless* slog. I think maybe OttoCorrect messed that one up?
M&A Dept. of Corrections
Completely agree
1A got me started like a dog team out of the dog lot (or a race horse out of the starting gate for those who've never mushed) But I slowed down to normal speed on 2D. Overall I'd agree it was easy for a Sunday, but I liked the theme. Knowing , after the second theme answer that the pattern would be pro and con words helped. I liked trying to figure out the theme without too many crosses. Unlike RE, I had no trouble with the "s" on procession. Seemed logical enough to me and I liked the sound. Liked the lap cat crossing the lead dog, and a few other things I've forgotten by now. Felt stoopid at how long took me to get 94A penney. With almost all the letters from crosses I finally realized J.C. !
Now back to read comments.
I could have sworn that the first president of Russia was Alexander Kerensky, but it seems he was a first minister instead.
And historically, anyhow, Lynn MA is not a suburb, it at least used to be a fairly major manufacturing city, and center of immigration. Made lots of shoes, and I think General Electric was big. Very working-class vibe, rather like Fall River. 'Lynn, Lynn, City of Sin, / You won't get out the way you went in' we would intone when the name came up.
"You know one word will start with PRO and the other CON". Do you? Did I miss some instructions? Otherwise you have to slog through the downs to get a foothold.
Professor Confessor
That was my final square and I felt kinda the same way. But, wait! What if it's SOIL? I don't know antidepressants. So I flipped a coin and S won. Is that cheating?
To quote JAE, "Didn't hate it." But didn't much love it, either. As @Rex and. many commenters have pointed out, once you get one themer you've got them all. Hated LYNN. It's bad enough we have to know Natick but now we have to get another suburb of Boston? Was country music icon Loretta deemed too easy for a Sunday? Like @Nancy, I'm not too fond of "baby talk". LOOKIE, INSPO, DRINKYPOO. Yech! And SSRI was just awful. Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. You're kidding me, right? But I guessed right with the S at the intersection of SSRI and SOIL so I guess that should lift me out of my depressed state.
Other than I wanted consternation presentation for CONVOCATION PROVOCATION, the theme answers were obvious after the first one and truly a bit tedious. This is the kind of easy theme that would possibly been better in a short Monday puzzle. I was honestly tired of solving after about the first 30% of the puzzle.
Thank goodness Dr. Wilson (whoever he is) is in the ONCOLOGY department since I had nearly all the letters by the time I got there. Like GOT, House is a show I’ve never seen, even though I am a fan of Hugh Laurie’s work. I wish it had asked about the actor (Robert Sean Leonard) but one COPES in such situations, and this was an easy Sunday.
Not much else to say. Until tomorrow.
Talk Alberta into becoming 51st state: CONVINCE PROVINCE
DRINKYPOO should have been clued as a Bewitched tipple. Was it Serena who called it that, or Endora?
My sympathy to tbose who found naticks in this puzzle, but as I didn't, I give it a passing grade and then some... Easy-Medium in my view... some sections required brain strain...
Further to my remark above about disliking baby talk, I should point out that I also cringe when people use "cutesie" talk with their pets. My dog Pablo understands regular adult English, which is good because I just can't bring myself to say, "who's a good boy?" when "Well done" works so well.
Conrad
One of your woes PRAT
I remember the discussion the last time it appeared in the puzzle.
It ‘s an old word for butt and survives in the formal pratfall in American English, interestingly enough.
That connection surprised me and helped me remember it.
Dash Riprock
About drinkypoo
Well one of our regulars, who posts a lot less lately , Gill
uses it in a humorous way. I never use it but it exists. Didn’t bother me.
Anonymous 8:58 AM
The full expression alluded to , he , she or it is going to pot. Your comment is another example of expression that I would have thought universally known is not.
Well I am old so perhaps you are young and it is dying out. But I would expect virtually everyone not young would know it
When pot for marajuana became popular in the sixties & seventies there were a lot of puns made with the expression. But it is a very old expression I think.
the fogman
I was in high school when Mudnight Cowboy came out. I hadn’t seen the movie but someone said I looked like Ratso. It didn’t sound like a compliment!I later learned it most definitely was not. That connection made that answer a gimme for me.
Gleefully entered Tw*t for prat but knew that it was t wrong even though it was right
Hard to believe that Rex didn't rail at LYNN as being the most NATICK answer since NATICK. Crosses made it too easy to guess, I suppose.
Came here to see if you complained about AUDIOJACK. Didn’t find mention. That cable terminates in a PLUG, which generally fits into the audio system output jack. Sheesh!!
I protest and contest the publishing of this puzzle.
it was so fun to get the theme right before i finished the puzzle - literally exclaimed "OOHHHH PRO/CON" 😂
(I recognized the ends were repeated but thought it was a rhyme scheme only.)
we talked about eminem on thursday — we must have summoned him.
plenty to like, plenty to gloss over.
- my highs were 35A: LONELY for "missing people?" and 69D: TINES for "food stickers?"
- and I felt upset by OKD and KOD. (112D / 20D). AP stylebook approves them, but not me. though i guess cute north / south anagram, and reminiscent of DOT / MOT in the SW/SE.
really pleased with 35A.
I type of theme I will never be fond of. Also, OLD ONES is terrible.
Dios no lo aprueba.
Yeeshk. This is not my cuppa tea. Seems like it might not be many people's cup. Sooooo much gunk. And such painful fill. Let's think about doing some editing once in awhile, eh?
I see DRINKY POO is controversial, but I like it.
❤️ [Zombie-to-be.]
People: 18
Places: 3
Products: 11
Partials: 18
Foreignisms: 3
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 53 of 137 (39%) {On a Sunday ... OMG}
Funnyisms: 5 😐
Tee-Hee: TO POT.
Uniclues:
1 Chin-wagging in a Chevy with Cachaça.
2 Poet imposter prosecuted.
1 AUTO DRNKYPOO GOSSIP
2 SWOOP IN FROST ON TRIAL
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Unicorn of the sea's marinara base. NARWHAL'S TOMATO.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It could be because Seattle is small.
Old joke never more apt: What's the opposite of PROgress? Yep, you got it!
In the process of acclimating a troubled pooch I find myself asking "who'd'a thought YOU'D be a good dog?"
Am I the only one who hated the 95 down - 108 across number 1 becoming the letter i?
So the Antichrist has to be an American since no one else has social security numbers. Trump ?
"Green-lit" as past-tense for "green-lighted" in the sense of a project's having been given a "green light" to procede totally loses the sense of the idiom. "Green-lit" is the past tense for "green-lighted" when something itself is lit up in green, not when someone has been granted the go-ahead to proceed with it. (At The Nation, we opt for "green-lighted," no hyphen.)
I know I'm late as usual on this; I usually do all/most of the puzzles in the Sunday Times magazine (yes, in print; I'm one of those dinosaurs) on Sunday EXCEPT the crossword, which I do later in the week, but I couldn't less this one pass. Rex is absolutely right that this is a done-to-beyond-death-boring, trite theme (pro- and con-, come on!) and the fill isn't much. I have a significant historical objection to this puzzle: the referral to the Me Too movement as a 2017 movement, implying it began that year. WRONG. It obtained its hashtag that year, as well as wide publicity following the Harvey Weinstein revelations and that of numerous other abusers, but the first known user of the term in this context (on the now obsolescent social medium MySpace) was the social activist Tarana Burke in 2006, a Black NYC native who moved south and began Me Too programs there as a way to combat sexual violence and victimization. It only became world-famous, apparently, more than a decade later when prominent white women began to speak out in large numbers about attacks they had suffered at the hands of abusive men in positions of power and dominance. Thus, the central role of Burke in originating the discourse is largely ignored if not forgotten. Racist a little?
You're a fan of Hugh Laurie...
but you've never seen House?!
Watch the two part season four Finale episodes, 'House's Head' and 'Wilson's Heart'...
and you'll understand why both characters were acclaimed for their respective roles.
Agreed! An audio PLUG is at one end of a headphone cable. The audio JACK is the female port into which the male audio PLUG is inserted.
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