English translation of the Irish "aigéan" / SUN 1-19-25 / Pokémon with a catlike appearance / Boondi ___ (yogurt dish with dried chickpea flour) / Turkish travel stops / Hugo-winning sci-fi author Bacigalupi / Arjuna's skill, in the "Mahabharata" / "Strega ___" (classic children's folk tale) / New York x paper / Nashville neighborhood known for its many recording studios / Winter haven for some small mammals / Nature's fishhook, you might say / One of the "holy trinity" ingredients in Indian cuisine

Sunday, January 19, 2025

Constructor: Emily Sharp and Kunal Nabar

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: "Word Problems" — answers are familiar phrases, but clues are written as mathematical problems:

Theme answers:
  • DIVISION OF LABOR (22A: Hard / work) (phrase meaning "labor" is "divided")
  • PRODUCT OF THE TIMES (31A: New York x paper) (phrase meaning "The Times" is expressed as a "product" (i.e. ___ x ___))
  • ROOT CAUSE (51A: generate) ("root" of a word meaning "cause")
  • DIFFERENCE OF OPINION (66A: It's what - you think) (phrase meaning "opinion" expressed as a subtraction problem (by which you calculate "difference"))
  • SQUARED UP (82A: (Pixar movie)²) (the "Pixar movie" Up is "squared")
  • INTEGRATED CIRCUIT (99A:  ∫ workout routine) (phrase meaning "circuit" is expressed as an integral)
  • ADDED COMPLEXITY (112A: Rocket science + brain surgery) ("complex" things are "added" together)
Word of the Day: "Strega NONA" (40A: "Strega ___" (classic children's folk tale)) —
Strega Nona
 is a children's picture book written and illustrated by Tomie dePaola. If considered as a folktale, the story is Aarne-Thompson type 565, the Magic Mill. It concerns Strega Nona (resembling what would be "Grandma Witch" in Italian, although this would actually be "Nonna Strega", with the two words reversed and the first one spelled with a double n) and her helper, Big Anthony. With only a single "n" (i.e., Nona), the title actually means "Ninth Witch" in Italian. The book, which is likely dePaola's best-known work, was published in 1975 and won a Caldecott Honor in 1976. It was one of the "Top 100 Picture Books" of all time in a 2012 poll by School Library Journal. Strega Nona has been challenged or banned in some children's libraries in the United States because it depicts magic and witchcraft in a positive light. // Strega Nona is a wise woman and witch doctor who lives in Calabria, in southern Italy. Because she is getting old, Strega Nona employs a young man named Big Anthony to do household chores. One night, Big Anthony observes Strega Nona singing to her magic pasta pot to produce large amounts of pasta. However, he fails to notice that she blows three kisses to the pot to stop the pasta production. // Big Anthony shares his discovery with the townsfolk the next day, but he is laughed at. Two days later, while Strega Nona is visiting her friend Strega Amelia, Big Anthony sings to the pasta pot and successfully conjures up large amounts of pasta, which he serves to the townsfolk. However, since Big Anthony cannot stop the pot from cooking, the pasta gradually covers Strega Nona's house and nearly floods the entire town. Disaster is averted when Strega Nona returns and immediately blows the three kisses to stop the pot's cooking; she punishes Big Anthony by making him eat all of the pasta. (wikipedia) 


• • •

Pretty much the definition of "Not For Me." I took Calculus II in the fall of 1987 and never thought about math again after that (except for the math required to get through Physics I, which was not much—that was my only A+ in college! How!?). It's not that I didn't understand the concept here. I just didn't love it. It didn't strike a chord. It's not my thing. Moreover, some of the "problems" seem to be perfectly expressed, while others seem ... like train wrecks? Or messy, anyway. Like, the clue on SQUARED UP seems perfect: Up is a "Pixar movie," and the clue has "Pixar movie" squared ... or a SQUARED ... UP. Nice. But what the hell is going on with the PRODUCT OF THE TIMES clue? I know that the "Times" is a New York paper ... is the idea that you turn the "New York paper" into an equation by just putting a "times" symbol in the middle of it? And which part is mathy? "Product?" "Times?" All "___ times ___" equations yield "products." The exact way the clue works here is unclear to me. The execution just feels super-awkward. Same thing with the clue on DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. It's like ... you take the words that mean "opinion" and just randomly drop a "-" symbol in there (the way you randomly plunked a "x" symbol in the earlier clue), and that's ... it? If both the numerator and denominator meant "labor," I'd understand the DIVISION OF LABOR clue better. I think. Why do the division and subtraction and multiplication clues have the "/" "-" and "x" symbols just dropped in the middle of phrases, but the addition clue actually has real, discrete terms, i.e. different, standalone "complex" things on either side of the "+" symbol. That makes sense to me. Two "complex" things are being "added" together. The others don't make sense because the units in the equation don't stand alone. I apologize—I can't quite express why the placement of these mathematical symbols frequently feels odd and arbitrary, but it does. The root and integration clues seem to work a lot better than the simple arithmetic ones. I dunno. I'm admittedly not a math whiz, but some of these just clanked, to my ear. The others were fine, but as I say, the concept here is someone else's idea of a good time—hopefully yours, but definitely not mine.


As for overall difficulty, this one was pretty average, perhaps a bit on the easy side. The themers didn't really present any problems, and there was so much short fill in this one that moving through it was a problem only when I encountered a name I didn't know, which is pretty typical (and only happened a handful of times today.  It's a very choppy grid, complete with four cheater squares* to make answers even shorter. This made the puzzle skew toward crosswordese at times (it's even got -ESE in it!) (38A: Language suffix). OGEE and AGEE! Together! You don't see that too often. Still, the puzzle does get in some decent longer stuff. I like NO VACANCY, ESOTERICA, and esp. "IN A PAST LIFE..." (as clued) (67D: "When I was much younger..."). Normally, I would also say that I loved KILIMANJARO, but today, I'm just happy I survived KILIMANJARO. See, like ... some of you? many of you? at least a few, I'm guessing ... I was not 100% sure of all the vowels in KILIMANJARO. Actually, there's just one vowel I wasn't sure of—and it just happened to have a cross that was Absolutely no help. The puzzle tells me that "Strega NONA" is a "classic" children's folk tale, but hoo boy that is News To Me. I mean ... nope, nothing, nada, never heard of it. Nonsense words to me, both "Strega" and "NONA." Sounds Italian? (Yes: See Word of the Day, above). Anyway, total Natick for me. I guessed correctly, but ... I left this square until the very, very end:


It was really between "O" and "A," with the "O" seeming possible because "MON" is so close to "MONT," which is part of so many mountain names ("Mont" is Fr. for "mountain," "Monte" is Italian for "mountain"). But "A" just looked better. Felt better. So that's what I guessed. Actually, I reasoned that if the answer were really NONO, the clue would've gone a completely different (and more familiar) route. Same thing for NONE. That square was oddly harrowing. Nothing else about this puzzle was at all scary. There were names (there are always names) that were beyond me. The Pachinko author (116D: "Pachinko" author ___ Jin Lee = MIN). The Hugo-winning guy (though I'm sure he's been in the grid before) (6D: Hugo-winning sci-fi author Bacigalupi). I know I've thought to myself that AYO Edebiri's name would be useful for crosswords (12D: Actress Edebiri of "The Bear"), but did that help me remember it today? It did not. Needed crosses. Gah. Arjuna was unfamiliar to me (43A: Arjuna's skill, in the "Mahabharata"), as was that "Strega NONA" business, and the idea that anyone anywhere ever called COYOTES "brush wolves" (?) (55A: Brush wolves, by another name). But all these minor challenges were easily overcome because surrounding fill was, generally, a cinch.


Bullets:
  • 59A: Post-spring cleaning event (TAG SALE) — where I come from (and where I currently live), we call these "garage sales" or "yard sales." 
  • 65A: Nashville neighborhood known for its many recording studios (MUSIC ROW) — I like this one. Seems original. (And it turns out, yes, this is a debut answer)
  • 33D: English translation of the Irish "aigéan" (OCEAN) — I like that the Irish term evokes the Aegean (which got its name from Theseus's father, Aegeus). I don't know what the linguistic relationship of Irish to Greek is. The resemblance may just be coincidence.
  • 107A: Burrowing rodent (MOLE RAT) — wanted this to be MUSKRAT at one point. Muskrats are indeed rodents, and they *occasionally* burrow (to make nests) (look at me, I'm a muskrat expert!), but they don't burrow full-time, or, like, build a whole identity around it, the way MOLE RATs do, apparently.
  • 117A: Social workspaces for some remote workers (CAFES) — overthought this one and went looking for some modern term, some neologism used in the business world that I was perhaps not entirely familiar with. But I also wanted CAVES at one point (because you might work the remote (control) in your man CAVE?). But no, it's just CAFES, a place where lots of people work on their laptops ... or at least have them open, I have no idea what they're doing.
  • 121A: Winter haven for some small mammals (SHED) — another one where I was expecting a technical term instead got something perfectly ordinary. 
  • 21A: Practical (UTILE) — that UTILE / USE TO crossing made me screw up my face a little. Same root. Too close. From merriam webster dot com:
For over a hundred years before "useful" entered our language, "utile" served us well on its own. We borrowed "utile" from Middle French in the 15th century. The French derived it from Latin utilis, meaning "useful," which in turn comes from uti, meaning "to use." "Uti" (the past participle of which is "usus") is also the source of our "use" and "useful." We've been using "use" since at least the 13th century, but we didn't acquire "useful" until the late 16th century, when William Shakespeare inserted it into King John. Needless to say, we've come to prefer "useful" over "utile" since then, though "utile" functions as a very usable synonym. Other handy terms derived from "uti" include "utilize," "usury," "abuse" and "utensil."
  • 55D: Pokémon with a catlike appearance (MEW) — had the "M," saw "cat," wrote MEW, and crossed my fingers. It worked!
Hey, the online Boswords tournament is starting up again soon. Here's organizer John Lieb to explain:
Registration is open for the Boswords 2025 Winter Wondersolve, an online crossword tournament which will be held on Sunday, February 2 from 1:00 to 4:30 p.m. Eastern. Solvers can compete individually or in pairs and will complete four puzzles (three themed and one themeless) edited by Brad Wilber. To register, to see the constructors, and to watch a short video describing the event, go to www.boswords.org.
That's all. See you next time.

*"cheater squares" are black squares that do not add to the overall word count, inserted simply to make the grid easier to fill. Today, these are the black squares after ANT and before SAC, and after SHED and before SKIN. Despite the negative connotations of the name, cheater squares are not inherently bad. Used judiciously, they can be very helpful to a constructor in smoothing out the fill quality of a given section. 

P.S. Last week during my yearly fundraising drive I decided to add Zelle as a payment method on the last day, which worked fine ... until it didn't. Several contributions were mysteriously rejected. It is not a big deal, but if you contributed that way, it's possible it didn't go through (this applies to only like a dozen of you). The problem was on my end ("MY BAD!"). I apologize. The bank and I have spoken. I should have the kinks ironed out for next year. For now, it's still just PayPal, Venmo, and snail mail. Thanks! 

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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93 comments:

okanaganer 3:04 AM  

Rex said: "I'm admittedly not a math whiz". Well I was kind of a math whiz.. always got As or better (but that was 40+ years ago) and I liked this theme fine enough. Just different words for the math operations; I liked that PRODUCT OF THE TIMES had both "product" and "times" which both are multiplication. Plus, the ROOT and SQUARE answers are symmetrically placed; that is really nice! If they had done the same thing with ADDED and a themer using PLUS that would have been so cool.

Several dubious name crossings (KARO / PAOLO, I'm looking at you!) fortunately sorted themselves out. Typeovers: CHECKED before CHEESED for "Ticked (off)" cuz I thought it was a literal "check" mark, and RATED before HATED for "Gave zero stars".

Local news: south Okanagan temperatures are supposed to plummet... a few degrees below freezing during the day. Lord have mercy! It's only going on late January and winter has already arrived. We may even get some snow.

Anonymous 3:33 AM  

If you didn’t know ASSAM (which I don’t) then both of those A’s are rough. The first could have been an E based on the down clue (F minor scale) and the second is crossing AYO, who is only cable TV famous and only in the last couple of years. I spent a few minutes trying different combinations of vowels there until I hit on the right one.

Jared 3:50 AM  

Today's grid had OOXTEPLERNON's sister deity, AGEEESECEONONA.

jae 4:22 AM  

Easy. My experience was similar to @Rex’s as there were quite a few WOEs for me too but the crosses were all fair so I kinda breezed through this one. Me too for the A in NONA being my last square and I too guessed right.

Cute idea and a fun solve. I liked it quite a bit more than @Rex did but then math was part of what I used to do for a living.

Conrad 5:21 AM  


Easy-Medium, mostly without reading the theme clues.

I had trouble in the DEMO(32D)/AIM(43A)/IRS(44D) area because I'm not familiar with the "Mahabharata" and the other two clues were very generic.

Wanted toT for the sitter's charge at 64D, but we already had TOTS at 35D.
Ali Khan before AGA at 73A.
At 81A, REv (reverse) had my "Back" before REP.

Mark K 6:49 AM  

Loved the theme - but then again I was captain of the math team in high school

Andy Freude 7:34 AM  

Yep, for the F minor clue I just put in FLAT and waited to see if the first letter would be A, B, D, or E, all possibilities (though A was the likeliest, since it does the most to give that scale it’s minor coloring).

Andy Freude 7:39 AM  

I recognized Arjuna as an archer from the Bhagavad Gita, which is pretty well known in the West. Didn’t remember that the Gita is part of the Mahabharata, so that slowed me down for a second. Still, it’s a fair clue.

Son Volt 7:41 AM  

Theme was fine - maybe a little overdone and more suited to a smaller format. The symbols helped the solve so that works - agree with the big guy that a few of the themers are disjoint.

Blue CHEER

Am I a hipster DOOFUS? Some ESOTERICA here but for the most part the fill was clean. Crossword royalty with IMARETS and AGEE. RAITA and others added a nice Indian flavor.

The FINAL CUT

A bit much but overall pleasant Sunday morning solve.

MIDGE Ure

Lewis 7:41 AM  

I love how this theme originated – that Kunal has a habit of imagining phrases that contain a math word as math formulas, and thought, “Maybe there’s a theme here…”

Then he and Emily brainstormed and came up with enough theme answers (7) to make a Sunday puzzle out of it.

Stellar constructor Peter Gordon, who, with 130 NYT puzzles under his belt, ought to know, told me that 9 out of 10 theme ideas fall flat for lack of enough theme answers.

So, the goddess Fortuna smiled on Kunal and Emily today, providing sufficient answers, not to mention giving them the talent to find them and create perfecto clues for them.

Their grid contains ten NYT debut answers. Debut answers can bring spark to the solve, giving solvers clues and answers they’ve never encountered before. They can also be dull and not contribute anything to the fill-in.

Almost all of today’s are of the former type, IMO, my favorites being DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, SQUARED UP, GO TOO FAR, and, as clued, the exquisite IN A PAST LIFE.

And so, much fortune in the box today. Congratulations on your first Sunday, Kunal, and your NYT puzzle debut Emily, and thank you so much for making this!

SouthsideJohnny 7:45 AM  

I thought the theme struck the right balance (difficulty-wise). The gimmick was gettable, and the answers required a little sleuthing but were also pretty reasonable.

Nice to see MUSIC ROW make an appearance - that section of town reminds me of Nashville’s version of Bourbon Street.

I actually knew one of the Celebs today (AYO Edebiri). She has to play it so straight on the TV series, yet I thought she was a real hoot when she hosted SNL last year.

Anonymous 7:58 AM  

Liked it more than Rex, but he’s got a fair point on the inconsistent structure of some of the theme clues.

Gary Jugert 8:07 AM  

En una vida pasada tuve una diferencia de opinión.

Well, on the last day of our Republic, I gotta say I enjoyed working on this. I ignored those weird themers as long as possible and hunt and pecked my way through the rest of the gunky real estate until I finally built enough crosses and then those goofy math clues seemed obvious. Patience leads to OHO.

The A crossing ASSAM/AYO was my last unknown letter and could've been any vowel. I spent about an hour reading up on ASSAM after the solve. Like everything in India -- gorgeous place, horrible culture. They kicked out all the Muslims a few years ago. Way to go India. Our own personal First Order will probably be next to pull a similar smooth move in this end-of-times culture.

Just because I [cross the line] and GO TOO FAR, calling me DING-DONG DOOFUS isn't wrong, but it's rude. Crossing RAITA/DAN on the A was also rude.

Yesterday CAN was a toilet, today it's trash. Why can't cans be the Warhol subject? CAN, just be you. Your rap name and website should be NOVA CAN-CY.com.

I added ESOTERICA onto my favorite word list right under jalopy. I think CHEESED is a hilarious way to be peeved.

Propers: 13
Places: 3
Products: 8
Partials: 19
Foreignisms: 5
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 48 of 140 (34%)

Funnyisms: 4 😕

Uniclues:

1 Beauty parlor exclusively for pregnant people.
2 Boomers who aren't critical media consumers.
3 Triangle salesmen is honest about its use as a circle.
4 How Mary remembers Christmas.
5 Modern TV enthusiast's closet.
6 How Vicodin keeps the boss at work.
7 It's 19,341 feet tall.

1 DIVISION OF LABOR SALON
2 FACTS-JAM ROOT CAUSE (~)
3 REP SQUARED UP RISKS
4 NO VACANCY IN A PAST LIFE
5 A FLAT SCREENER'S CEDAR
6 EXEC SCIATICA STAMINA
7 KILIMANJARO ESOTERICA

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Potatoes for buglers. ELKS' TATER TOTS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 8:17 AM  

Learned the Nashville Music Row answer from Ken Burns' excellent Country Music series.

Bob Mills 8:24 AM  

Never heard of SCREENERS or CHEESED (as clued). Anyone else have a thought about them?

Anonymous 8:51 AM  

The never-ending onslaught of PPP and obscure trivia continues. Natick after natick after natick.

Beezer 8:59 AM  

I liked this puzzle much more than Rex did, and my math skills minimized to “arithmetic” level once I left college. I got INTEGRATEDCIRCUIT easily from the crosses, but came to the blog for the explanation because I didn’t remember the symbol nor did I think of “integrals.” To me, the theme was extremely clever and balanced by the fact that the crosses were “gettable.” All in all a pleasant morning solve.

Anonymous 8:59 AM  

Came here to say exactly this. The only place where I had to “check puzzle”. ASSAM felt right, and luckily I was correct in my hunch, but I thought immediate Rex would call this out for a double Natick.

Beezer 9:01 AM  

You were on a roll today! My faves: “Last day of Republic” and “Way to go India.”

Anonymous 9:02 AM  

I work in the entertainment industry so SCREENERS was a gimme for me. Basically if I’ve made a movie, and you’re a reviewer or a potential future collaborator, I’ll send you a SCREENER of my film (which used to be a DVD but today would be a Vimeo or YouTube link) to watch for free/before it’s been released.

Agree with you on CHEESED though. Never heard that term before.

Beezer 9:04 AM  

Maybe KARO syrup not found in Canada? I have to say, even a non-cook can make a delicious pecan pie, with KARO syrup, a couple of eggs, a cup of sugar (!), freezer pie crust…and of course…pecans. Recipe on label!

SouthsideJohnny 9:05 AM  

Another “weird” dupe in the LAT/WaPo Sunday grid today - SKIN, with the exact same clue (literally, the exact same wording). At first, I thought that maybe there were alien life forms sending me coded messages. Then it struck me that it’s probably a bit more likely that it’s a function of the “word lists” that Rex occasionally mentions (usually pejoratively). Anyway, if you see little green men wandering around your grid, exercise due care.

Anonymous 9:06 AM  

I hadn’t heard of “screeners” either, which to me were things we put in windows in the summer to keep out mosquitoes pre-AC. OTOH, I did know “cheesed”, but that may be related to my growing up on a Wisconsin dairy farm.

Anonymous 9:23 AM  

Strega Nona was a big hit in my (early 80s) preschool. My guess is that Rex and his daughter’s generations bookend mine.

pabloinnh 9:25 AM  

Found the top half to be very easy, the bottom half not so much. I explain this by noting that the math symbols were so faint on my printout that I couldn't see the square root sign or the little 2 indicating "squared". Also I did see the sign indicating an integral but did not remember what it was. I did well in math but I think most of it was bluffing.

Some strange and unfamiliar names in this one which also slowed things down. I'm overlooking any nits I might have because the constructors have seen fit to include OGEE, an oldie but goodie, and especially IMARET, which is hall of fame crosswordese. Very happy to see you both.

OK Sunday by me, ES and KN. Not an Easy Solve but Kept Nudging factoids of trivia, like KILIMANJARO and SKIN out of the brain attic. Liked that, and thanks for a solid helping of fun.

Alice Pollard 9:50 AM  

Rex, you do too much overthinking when it comes to themes. It's a crossword, give the constructor some leeway. not everything is going to be spot on. My big prob was how to spell KILIMANJARO. I sensed that was the answer off the K, but for the life of me I needed alot of crosses to get there. The last themer I thought it would end w COMPLIment instead of COMPLEXITY so that was a bit stifling. I enjoyed the puzzle...

Nancy 10:09 AM  

Many solvers will find great relief in this: a math puzzle that doesn't require you to actually do any math. But you still have to recognize those symbols. And when they go beyond + and - and x -- watch out. For example. 99A. I saw that big F-looking thing and it rang some sort of bell from Calculus, and I thought it meant FUNCTION. So I spent many minutes trying to insert FUNCTION into the answer. But no, it has something to do with INTEGRATED, and you can see how much of those bloody difficult Calculus courses that no one forced me to take, but stupidly I chose to take them anyway I remember.

But my biggest problem was trying to fit MuskRAT in where MOLERAT should have gone. Oh, right, it's NORAH Jones, not NUR-- anyone. (I always tune out when I see a pop singer name, and hear I shouldn't have. As pop singers go, NORAH's easy.) But I struggled in the SW. I was also looking for a Zoom-based answer where CAFES went.

Easy where it was easy, but occasionally on the hard side. Less humor in the answers than I normally hope for in a wordplay puzzle. Engaging enough -- but not really fun-filled for me.

Maddie 10:25 AM  

I was a little disappointed that the "Pokemon with a catlike appearance" was not MEOWTH

Nancy 10:33 AM  

Gary -- Today, I would have had a different clue idea for #1:
Establishment where the manicurist is forbidden to give pedicures.

Amy 10:52 AM  

Really loved this one. I was never a total math nerd but appreciated the way it’s a language unto its own, and today played on that. Really fun.

EasyEd 10:54 AM  

Well, I confidently filled in desiGnATEDCIRCUIT and suffered for that! Was thinking tech solutions in general and not math specifically. Also guessed wrong pretty much wherever @Rex guessed right on the fill. So had a hard time with this puzzle but much appreciate the thought that went into the theme.

Nancy 10:55 AM  

Typo correction: "Here" I shouldn't have.

Anonymous 10:57 AM  

ASSAM is crosswordese. In tons of puzzles going way back.

TimG 11:00 AM  

About 41A, I would say, “That’s just… um no wrong.” Except that never in my 69 years have I ever heard anyone use this expression… what is that even supposed to mean? That’s just… wrong, yes. That’s just… so wrong, sure. That’s just… no wrong? I don’t think so. Makes no sense.

Nancy 11:03 AM  

Re: the Peter Gordon observation. I think it depends on whether you come up with the revealer first and then try to find enough theme answers to fit or whether you come up with theme answers first and then try to find a revealer that nails it down. I've had both dilemmas -- and frankly think that finding the "perfect" revealer is the harder task.

Jared M 11:10 AM  

Did anybody else *not* get the integral symbol on the NYT website? It just isn't there for me at all...very strange. Luckily I didn't need it because I got the answer from crosses.

Also, TAG SALE is interesting to me as a Nutmegger because it's pretty much exclusively a Connecticut term.

Liveprof 11:14 AM  

The MIDGE will take Yankee fans back to Cleveland, Oct 2007, when midges from Lake Erie descended upon poor Joba Chamberlain in droves. He couldn't shake them. The trainer sprayed insect repellant but it only drew more to him (a different spray might have helped). They essentially cost the Yankees the game and they lost the series. (Cleveland went on to lose to Boston who won it all that year.) Joe Torre later said it was a major regret of his career that he didn't pull the team off the field when the midges arrived.

The arithmetic of the puzzle took me back 50 years to when my late dear friend Maxine talked her friend Linda into taking an arithmetic course at Hunter College with her to meet some academic requirement. "How hard could it be?" Max reasoned. "Two plus two." It turned out to involve things like vectors and the only way they passed was to go the professor's office and break down crying and pleading for a D. We often used that line in later years -- two plus two -- to describe situations that we suspected would not go as well as we hoped they would.

Anonymous 11:23 AM  

What? Joni Mitchell and Tennille get links, but not Norah Jones?

Anonymous 11:24 AM  

Strega Nona is well known to anyone who had kids in the early 90s. She and Big Anthony were sweeping the nation, at least among the 4-5 year olds. Of course now both my kids are Satanist— if only the Christo-Fascist had been there to save them!

egsforbreakfast 11:42 AM  


Seems unusual to have crossing 5 -letter anagrams: ATARI/RAITA.

I'm a donkey.
ASSAM I.

We went to an art opening last night. Since I'm observing "dry January," I just CHEESED.

When FORD was preparing to introduce automatic transmissions to its models, the engineers had a massive disagreement about whether the setting for moving ahead should be labeled "F" (Forward) or "D" (Drive). It became known as the Great FORD Debate.

Love me a good math puzzle. ∞ thanks, Emily Sharp and Kunal Nabar

Teedmn 11:45 AM  

I like this puzzle a lot more now that I understand the theme. The platform I solved on represented most of the mathematical symbols as Ã? so I didn't see the plus, minus, times, integration or root symbols. The / in Hard/work was there, and there was a 2 after (Pixar) but those alone weren't enough to tip me off as to the theme. Now that it makes sense, it's pretty nice.

Thanks, Emily and Kunal!

Anonymous 11:51 AM  

I'm still trying to understand cheater squares - I get your examples, but why wouldn't the black square before FIR fall into the same category?

jb129 11:53 AM  

I loved this :) Haven't actually LOVED a Sunday puzzle in a long time. Great puzzle, Emily & Kunai & thank you for a surprisingly fun Sunday :)
Now off to find my typo :(

Ken Freeland 11:57 AM  

hear, hear!

Ken Freeland 12:08 PM  

Like "anonymous" above, HMTR, indeed, I hated this puzzle to pieces. Slogged my way through the top half except for that dreadful FROYO/AYO natick. I've soujourned this planet for three quarters of a century and have never heard or seen reference to a FROYO until this puzzle...
it sounds like a recipe for Type 2 diabetes... By the time I reached the bottom half it was just PPP everywhere, and I realized that this puzzle was not challenging my vocabulary as much as it was forcing a pop culture quiz down my throat, and it was painful, so I just put it down. If this trend continues, I 'll just cancel my subscription. So sad... last Sunday' s puzzle gave me hope... this one has dashed it to pieces....

Bass 12:44 PM  

Anyone care to explain MSS to me for "Things eds. edit"?

okanaganer 12:55 PM  

@TimG 11:00 am; that's an ellipsis in the clue which does NOT mean "insert the answer here", it's just a pause. If it was "That's just ____ wrong" your objection would be on the money. (I make that mistake often!)

Carola 12:56 PM  

I can't say I fully appreciated how all of the math worked, but I enjoyed getting the theme answers where I did - the initial Aha at DIVISION OF LABOR and the got-it-right-away DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. Chagrined to say that I didn't understand SQUARED UP; not surprised that I had no idea about INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, college calculus being where I met my math Waterloo. Maybe more pleasurable than the theme: KILIMANJARO ESOTERICA, IN A PAST LIFE, and NO VACANCY (probably our of nostalgia, remembering those neon signs from 1950's family road trips).

Do-over:MuskRAT (hi, @Nancy). Help from previous puzzles: IMARETS. Help from having a daughter-in-law movie producer: SCREENERS. No idea: PAOLO, AiM.

@okanaganer, from yesterday: I think the constructor you might be thinking of who treated us to many stacks is Martin Ashwood-Smith.

okanaganer 12:57 PM  

@Beezer re KARO... it may be available here but I wouldn't know; I've never bought syrup in my life. We had some as kids but it was usually Aunt Jemima.

thefogman 1:28 PM  

I hated it. Totally not worth the effort.

M and A 1:46 PM  

A hint of math puztheme. Bein a one-time college calculus instructor, kinda liked. Especially 99-Across.
Wish I'da thought of some of them puzthemers, back when I was puttin together those math tests of olde. Woulda been neat extra credit problems.
[Not to be alarmed: this M&Ath teacher graded on a CURVE. No one ever failed one on my three classes, btw ... in a teachin career alas cut real short by a drafty Uncle Sam]

staff weeject pick [of a mere 34 choices]: AYO. The debuter of the bunch. And a no-know, at our house.

some faves: GOTOOFAR. KILIMANJARO. FINALCUT. GRADUAL. NOVACANCY. DOOFUS. ESOTERICA. JAM clue.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Ms. Sharp darlin & Mr. Nabar dude. Added up to lotsa fun. And congratz to Ms. Emily on her sharp half-debut.

Masked & Anonymo12Us

... and for dessert ...

"Semi-Finalists" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Anonymous 1:48 PM  

Yes, Safari/macOS, the "∫ " did not render for me

Anonymous 1:57 PM  

No problems for someone with both a math and an English degree like myself. Well, one temporary problem. But I penned the "Y" into FROYO/AYO as my last fill, guessing it must mean FROzen YOgurt to the gen that also says "Word".

okanaganer 2:12 PM  

@Carola... yes! Martin Ashwood-Smith. According to xwordinfo.com, he's only had one NYT puzzle since March 2019! I miss those.

Anonymous 2:16 PM  

Abbreviation for ‘manuscript’

Anonymous 2:18 PM  

Always IDYLL before IDYL. IDYL? I’ve seen that…never, before now. AIM, I inferred but feels forced. Marketing target audience? You could obviously aim your sales pitch at an age group, but would the group be called your aim? Awkward as clued.

Leon 2:19 PM  

Thanks for the Joni Mitchell video. It was great.

M and A 2:32 PM  

p.s.
Just for completeness sake…
{d/dx(exotic)} = EXOTICDERIVATIVE.

or maybe even?…
{ lim x—> U (IOX) } = DEBTORSNOTE. … yeah, maybe not.

Fun stuff.

M&Also

jb129 2:39 PM  

Manuscripts

Bass 2:58 PM  

'kay, new to me...

MetriGnome 3:02 PM  

Uh . . . "Females 35-44" = DEMO? huh??!!!

Anonymous 3:33 PM  

Love, love, love Strega Nona. Always give it as a gift.

RooMonster 3:37 PM  

Welp, comment list to the ether.

Just said good puz, neat idea, light dreck. And a boatload of F's!

Succinct retelling of non-posted warbling.

Ten F's!
RooMonster How Come The Accidental Publish Hitting Posts Make It Through But Not The Ones You Want? Guy

Anonymous 3:38 PM  

STREGA NONA is indeed a beloved and memorable childhood book for me, might be a generational thing.

KARO syrup (which is not maple syrup, just sugar syrup for cooking) is the magic ingredient for pecan pie.

I have been wondering for hours now, how is "REP" related to "back" at all? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.

Anonymous 3:53 PM  

That one is there by necessity (it’s in front of a themer—impossible to remove)

Klazzic 4:25 PM  

A statistical segment of the population: demographic

Anonymous 4:35 PM  

I assume it’s a certain demographic, but I’m not 100% sure.

CDilly52 4:36 PM  

Thank goodness for the fair crosses on this one or I would have been Naticked in a couple places. Also, one of the most common adages among my most capable lawyers is that friends and acquaintances is that law school is the place for smart people who just can’t do math (except for patent lawyers who really are all kinds of smart!). Anyway, I knew enough to figure out the theme, but it just failed to hold up throughout, as many have said.

This was kind of a constructor’s puzzle. I sincerely appreciate the idea and the difficulty of crafting math-ish clues and their respective answers. Really quite a feat and a darn good concept. Unfortunately, not all of the theme held together, leaving some really strained places.

The fill is what got me in a couple spots, the worst being 41D since I have exactly zero experience with martial arts groups or governing bodies. The sci-fi author was also a WOE for me. Wouldn’t have been for my husband, but alas, we hadn’t perfected the Vulcan mind meld before his passing.

Iverall, I had nice flow going in several places, I applaud the idea if not the complete execution and I finished well ahead of what the app tells me is my usual Sunday time. And, as someone who really enjoys some complexity and original ideas in a Sunday puzzle, this one gets my “two thumbs up” for a good idea and a mostly fun Sunday.

Joe 4:58 PM  

I had ‘rated’ instead of ‘hated’. However, I thought that I had either misspelled’Kilimanjaro’, had the wrong cross for 12D-20A, or both. Then I finally got the ‘hated’. I went through the alphabet on the cross for 12D-20A until “congratulations” popped up.

Anonymous 5:01 PM  

@okanaganer karo isn't maple syrup, it's corn syrup, used in baking/desserts :)

-stephanie.

Anonymous 5:08 PM  

@anon 9:23am i love strega nona and seems we are about the same age based on your comment. when i saw it was the word of the day, i thought rex was bringing special attention to it because he loved it as much as me, and many others. i was pretty surprised and admittedly a little bummed to read he had never heard of it!

he also wrote [among so many others!] "too many hopkins" which came out in 1989, and was a favorite in our family as hopkins is my mother's maiden name, and was passed on to me as my middle name :)

-stephanie.

Anonymous 5:17 PM  

@anon 3:38pm rep means to show support for aka "back" in this instance. that one held me up as i was deciding for so long whether it would be rev [reverse] or rew [rewind] that a third "back" had not occurred to me until the very end.

-stephanie.

Colin 5:19 PM  

Back after spending last weekend traveling to and from Boston, where our daughter lives. I liked this puzzle, got the theme pretty early on. Pleasant solve while commuting into work today. Interesting how Emily the ecologist worked ECOL (120A) into this puzzle...!

Gary Jugert 5:24 PM  

@Nancy 10:33 AM
Dagnabbit! The manis and pedis! I spent serious time trying to think of different jobs in a salon that could be divided and mani/pedis should've been a layup. You win again. Nice work.

Anonymous 5:55 PM  

What does that DEMO mean?

dgd 5:57 PM  

Bob Mills et al
I have heard both.
Cheesed is an old expression and I am old . Perhaps a regional element? My favorite part of the Times is the Arts section And this time of year they often mention screeners being sent to Oscar voters.

dgd 6:31 PM  

I have had frozen yogurt a long time ago but not for years. I am not a fan. The add ons even less. Since I didn’t know the crossing actress, I was in trouble. I thought Froyo was some brand I hadn’t heard of. If I had gone through the alphabet, I might have guessed y but I didn’t so dnf. I am not complaining . It is clearly not a natick because FROYO is based on today’a blog well known.
Otherwise, easy for me. I ignored the theme and looked for likely phrases and got all of them.
Isn’t Dapper Dan a known expression? Assumed the name in question was the same and it worked
Surprised the anti dupe people didn’t complain about LETUP and LETON.
Didn’t bother me.
I knew Strega Nona. Rex seemed really annoyed about it.
The Italian name Paolo. Well the last name was Italian so that helped

SharonAK 6:50 PM  

I was glad to see question re "rep" from Anonymous 3:38.To me a rep or to rep is to act was an agent for a person or product. It is normally a paying job. NOT at all what I would call "backing " that person or product. I've seen it used that way in a couple of crosswords lately. Is there some use of rep that I don't know that makes it work?
RE the puzzle. Found some annoyingly obscure names (not, however, "Karo") and have no idea what an integer sign is, but thought the theme answers on the whole were fun . Especially liked "squared Up" Think that's where I first saw what was going on.

pabloinnh 7:15 PM  

You're late, Houdini, to quote an old commercial. Today we have a PAOLO, 1/2 pt. for me. Har.

Anonymous 7:26 PM  

Would some kind soul enlighten me as to why a biology major would need to study ecology? 120A

Beezer 8:01 PM  

I thought same about DAPPERDAN.

Beezer 8:04 PM  

CDilly…laughed out loud at math/lawyer saying as I am also a lawyer. Thing is…my husband is a patent attorney! And, YES…he was first an engineer…and a “mathy” kind of guy.

Colin 8:38 PM  

@Anonymous 5:55 PM: Others have piped in, and I agree... DEMO is "demographics"."

Anonymous 9:17 PM  

Ecology is classified as a branch of the biological sciences. Most bio majors who don't care about ecology would still have at least one token ecology course prior to further specialization in (e.g.) human bio, cell bio, botany, biochem, etc.

Anonymous 9:50 PM  

It couldn't be anything else, but I looked it up anyway, and sure enough, definitely not a thing. Classic "we got to the bottom corner and had to get it published" kind of editing.

Rick Sacra 10:23 PM  

Great Puzzle, Emily and Kumal! Seemed original and clever to me, I enjoyed it! : )

Anonymous 12:51 PM  

I was on the math team! We were called the “Mathletes”. I liked this puzzle!

Christopher 2:51 PM  

Like Nancy, I struggled in the SW corner. CAFES and SHED weren't obvious and l had MUSKRAT before MOLERAT. An added complication was first writing in IPADS instead of IMACS for Big Apple products. I was finally able to sort out the section, but it took an inordinate amount of time. On another topic, did anyone here do the NYT PANDA puzzle. I finished it, but still don't understand how one clue relates to the answer: TREED from "Cross wind in a corner". Metaphorically, treed is to be in a corner, but why cross wind?

Ed 3:57 PM  

Seems “MSS” should qualify as a Natick, as being a member of ESOTERICA. (see what I did there? Esoterica was an answer I had trouble with.)

Anonymous 5:50 PM  

Did get 14 across right away even though in my opinion the skin is not in the body. But on the body.
A better clue would have been largest organ in human anatomy.

Anonymous 8:00 PM  

Anyone else catch the erroneous clue to for talc (53D: soft rock). Talc is a mineral, not a rock. It is indeed soft and is rated as the softest mineral on Mohs’ hardness scale. If talc is found in massive form, in which it could be confused as a rock, it is called soapstone.

Anonymous 12:24 AM  

Agree, yes I did get that.

kitshef 7:09 PM  

Laughed out loud at the idea that Strega Nona is a 'classic' anything. And if one-time Hugo Award winners are now good for Xwords, my wordlist just got a lot bigger.

But the puzzle was lots of fun.

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