Foreign films translated and captioned by enthusiasts / TUE 10-10-23 / 2019 Taika Waititi film about a boy with an animal nickname / Olympian who competed as both a hurdler (2008 and 2012) and a bobsledder (2014) / Hit 1925 musical that inspired the sequel "Yes, Yes, Yvette" / Extinct creatures of Mauritius

Tuesday, October 10, 2023

Constructor: Nate Cardin

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: XOXO (70A: Affectionate sign-off ... or a pattern hinting at the starts to the six starred clues) — "X" here stands for a different letter in each of the first words of the theme answers:

Theme answers:
  • GOGO DANCERS (20A: *Gyrating performers at a nightclub)
  • JOJO RABBIT (30A: *2019 Taika Waititi film about a boy with an animal nickname)
  • YOYO TRICKS (45A: *Walk the Dog and Around the World, e.g.)
  • NO, NO, NANETTE (54A: *Hit 1925 musical that inspired the sequel "Yes, Yes, Yvette")
  • DODO BIRDS (11D: *Extinct creatures of Mauritius)
  • LOLO JONES (29D: *Olympian who competed as both a hurdler (2008 and 2012) and a bobsledder (2014))
Word of the Day: FANSUBS (9D: Foreign films translated and captioned by enthusiasts) —
fansub (short for fan-subtitled) is a version of a foreign film or foreign television program, typically anime or dorama which has been translated by fans (as opposed to an officially licensed translation done by paid professionals) and subtitled into a language usually other than that of the original. (my emph.) (wikipedia)
• • •

Algebra! Fun! No, seriously, pretty fun. There was a time when just running a bunch of -O-O answers would've constituted a whole theme, and I thought that's what was going on here at first. Some of the -O-O answers were colorful, but rhyme alone seemed like not the most inspired idea for a theme. But then the little XOXO revealer tipped me from the "meh" into the "oh, cool" camp. Funny how the right revealer, in the right place, with the right rationale, even something as small and seemingly unremarkable as XOXO, can make all the difference. There are some conspicuous XOXO absentees, most notably anyone named COCO! Gauff and Chanel are so mad right now! There's also David Chang's popular restaurant(s) / culinary brand, MOMOFUKU, that would've been cool. I can think of other viable XOXO patterns (TOTO, HOHO ... BOBO?) but none that would work well as the first word of a theme answer. Anyway, this set is very well chosen, and there are so many that you can hardly complain there weren't enough. These are the answers that fit symmetrically, and this set constitutes the great majority of viable answers. Plus, intersecting themers are always impressive when you can pull them off while still keeping the themer set tight *and* keeping the surrounding fill clean. Mission accomplished on both counts.


The puzzle felt Monday-easy to me. I guess some of the themers are proper nouns people may not have heard of, or may have forgotten, as I forgot the last name of LOLO JONES (hell of a last name to forget—the paradigmatic generic last name). It's a good thing the themers themselves sparkled, because the fill itself (while clean) was pretty rudimentary. The one answer that seemed like it was from outer space, especially compared to the utterly ordinary quality of the rest of the fill, was FANSUBS. I watch a lot of movies. I have watched ~300 movies / year ever since the start of the pandemic. So when I read this clue, I thought "What?" I couldn't even conceive of why FANSUBS would be needed (or why I would want "fans" subtitling my film!?). Then I looked it up, and had one of those "ohhhhhh, ok, that makes sense." I watch a gajillion films, but hardly any of them are "anime or dorama," which are the kinds of works that typically get FANSUBS (I didn't even know what "dorama" was—it's Japanese television drama). Seems like maybe it's actually most prevalent in the world of television than that of film. Anyway, adding context to the clue wouldn't have helped me get it any faster (it was pretty inferable as is), but it would've made me understand why I'd never heard of it a little better. Nothing else in the grid was unknown to me. Don't ask me why I'm so familiar with the title to a 1925 musical (NO, NO, NANETTE)—I just am. Actually, I'm quite sure I learned it from crosswords. Maybe as a clue for NANETTE. Seems likely. Yup, there it is:

[xwordinfo]

Was thinking about LARS just yesterday (64A: "___ and the Real Girl" (2007 Ryan Gosling film))—not the title character (played by Ryan Gosling), but the "Mary Tyler Moore Show" character (played by no one!). You know, Phyllis's husband, the one she talks about alllll the time but that we never see. It got me thinking: is Vera (Norm's wife) from "Cheers" just a Boston LARS? That is, the spouse of a secondary character in a major sitcom who's mentioned a lot but never seen?! Maybe Vera was the most obvious homage in the world and it just never occurred to me until just now. Anyway, I like to imagine that LARS and Vera found each other late in life and are currently living happily together on a lake somewhere in northern Michigan. Look, if you don't show me the characters in your sitcom then I get to invent lives for them, those are the rules. See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. I *thought* the grid looked wide, but it’s not; it’s just short (by one—only 14 rows tall)

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88 comments:

Conrad 5:43 AM  


Yeah, Monday-on-Tuesday but fun. LOLOJONES (29D) was a WOE, as was LARS (64A), but both came easily from crosses.

I knew 54A, NO NO NANETTE, because of a story - possibly apocryphal - that in 1918 Harry Frazee, aspiring Broadway producer and Boston Red Sox owner, needed money to finance a production of that musical. To raise the funds, he allegedly sold the only asset he had that could bring that kind of cash, a pitcher/outfielder named Babe Ruth.

Joe Dipinto 5:44 AM  

Maris, Niles's wife on "Frasier", was another spoken-about-but-never-seen sitcom character.

Karl Grouch 6:24 AM  

Tuesday WordStew.

Ingredients:
-1 subscription to xword info
(access to data base)
- 1 grid
- 12 sets of 3 charred croutons (no salt, no pepper)
- 1 use for "xoxo" (make up one)
-1 free weekend

Instructions:
1. Chop the grid.
2. Spray the croutons on top and arrange symmetrically
2. Search data base (or alternatively ask uncleG) for 'xoxo pattern"
3. Throw words in the pot, so as to cover the empty space left by the croutons
4. Stir (not shake)
5. Put in the freezer (for 9-12 months) 6. Serve when W.S is ready

Et voilà!

SouthsideJohnny 6:46 AM  

A fun puzzle - nice theme that was fun to solve with and a cute revealer as well. I came here expecting Rex to dissect the theme as if it were the Zapruder Film (this one is a real person, that one is fictional, so and so is an outlier, the last one dangled a participle, yada, yada . .) - but no, he just said it was a pretty cool theme. Do we possibly have a Doctor Rex and Mr. OFL situation going on here ? I wonder which one comes out when there is a full moon.

The rest of the puzzle was pretty standard crosswordese with a sprinkling of PPP - pretty much perfect for a Tuesday. Nicely done.

bocamp 7:19 AM  

Thx, Nate; I'm coco nuts over this one! 😊

Easy-Breezy.

Smoothest Tues. ever.

Close to being an across only solve.

Only guess was at LOLO JONES / JERK.

A most enjoyable trip from top to bottom! :)
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Croce's #849 was easy-med, altho a dnf at the cross of 46D/59A. Didn't grok either; will Google. 🤔
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On to Anna Shechtman's Mon. New Yorker. 🤞
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness, Freudenfreude & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

Lewis 7:21 AM  

Three things in particular stand out to me.

First, XOXO! What a difference a revealer can make. Today’s solve looked like a lovely collection of names with similar starts, but then the reveal came along and kapow! Tied it all together with a bang, elevating the puzzle from clever to special.

Second, what a feat of construction! Six long theme answers plus the revealer gobble up 64 squares, which is phenomenally high for a normal-sized 15 x 15 puzzle, making cleanly filling a grid extremely knotty. And today’s puzzle, at 15 x 14, makes that task even knottier. So, do the non-theme answers suffer? No! This is a junk-lite grid. Massive props to Nate on his skill in putting this together.

Third, a pair of sweet serendipities in the grid. The answer ADOBO which, with those repeating long-O’s, echoes the theme. And XOXO backward is the perfect PuzzPair© for the answer OXEN.

Three’s the charm for me, Nate. I’m won over not only by this trio, but also by how fun the puzzle was to fill in. Thank you so much for making it!

Jeff W 7:22 AM  

Alas, the Lars/Vera hookup was never meant to be. When Phyllis was spun off into her own series, the character of Lars was killed off, giving Phyllis a reason to move back to San Francisco.

"Who charms the crabs of Fisherman's Wharf right out of their shells?" - Phyllis!

kitshef 7:22 AM  

Detective Columbo's wife, discussed but never seen.

This wasn't just Monday-easy it was "easiest Monday ever"-easy.
I don't always time, but today I did. I beat my previous Tuesday best time by twenty seconds. That may not sound too extreme, but the thing is, I solved downs-only today.

Bobo the Chimp is a DC comics character, but probably too obscure.

Theme made me remember, for the first time in years, Go Go Gophers.

Anonymous 7:28 AM  

You beat me to it! A play that lives in infamy.

Ted 7:34 AM  

FANSUBS made my day.

I was a fansubber back in the 90s in college. Rex, you may have slightly missed that boom. I think a LOT of colleges had groups doing this in the mid to late 90s and early 2000s. It's barely needed today, but back then the US studios were verrrrrrry slow to maybe buy up and import various shows, indeed most series never got imported, so this was THE way to watch them if you weren't a native Japanese speaker. Japan was CRANKING out the content.

Good times, good times, sitting there subbing and timing Cowboy Bebop and Mononoke Hime.

Michael 7:35 AM  

I enjoyed it, but definitely easy - I set a new Tuesday time record today!

Son Volt 7:49 AM  

Smooth grid - don’t think I hesitated once. The theme was toast by the time the revealer showed up - felt a little anticlimactic. Liked GO GO DANCERS and NANETTE.

UBER again? MEGATON is temporal given the Gaza situation - I guess ALLAH is also. Is SARAH really funny?

Pleasant Tuesday morning solve.

SHAG Mama SHAG

Anonymous 7:49 AM  

I couldn’t unsee or un-feel the impact of several answers today (atom heading into megaton, ROTC, tase). A sad sense of the puzzle reflecting the news of the day. Sorry to be the skunk at the garden party.

EasyEd 7:56 AM  

Complex, easy, and fun, great combination. Like @Bocamp had to guess the JONES/Jerk intersection. NONONANETTE an immediate ear worm from God-knows-when—for me definitely not from crosswords.

Bob Mills 7:58 AM  

Easy but enjoyable solve. The JERK/TAYE cross was the only stumbling block for me, so I used trial and error.

Why would any sane person name a chicken dish "JERK"? Is there such a thing as "Nincompoop chicken"??

Nickyboy 8:02 AM  

Too many plurals for my liking. That always seems like a lazy way to fill out a puzzle. Meh.

Bob Mills 8:04 AM  

For Conrad: The Harry Frazee/Babe Ruth story is accurate. There's an interesting postscript to it.

Years after Frazee had sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees to finance "No, No, Nanette,", he was riding in a taxicab in Boston. The cabdriver asked him, "Aren't you Harry Frazee?" When Frazee proudly said he was, the cabdriver knocked him out cold.

B$ 8:18 AM  

The only downside to the puzzle is that once you figured out the theme, as soon as you got an early letter from a cross, it pretty much gave away the answer to the long themers.

I found this easier than yesterday's puzzle.

Are HORNETS a subset of wasps? I don't think so. I think they are different species (wasps related to ants)

Anonymous 8:22 AM  

Me too! Way too easy...but I'll take it! XOXO

nalpac 8:23 AM  

So quick a time - almost an all time record - requiring no need to even read the final clue so the XOXO revealer, nor the answer, was ever noticed. A nice puzzle but a bit too easy for a Tuesday.

Voyajer 8:26 AM  

Hm. After yesterday rating of “Very, Very Easy”, I thought today would be “Very, Very, Very Easy.” Fastest puzzle time yet.

Anonymous 8:34 AM  

fun puzzle and a personal best time for a tuesday!

Anonymous 8:35 AM  

Record Tuesday time for me. super easy, and undersized (which i didnt notice)

Nancy 8:50 AM  

The only thing better than a nifty and unexpected revealer is a nifty and unexpected revealer when you weren't expecting any revealer at all. In this case, the themers were so plentiful -- great theme density! -- and the theme itself so obvious that no revealer was really needed. So I was taken by surprise and then quite charmed by XOXO.

I'm old enough to have seen the revival of NO NO NANETTE and I think I actually did -- though who can remember: it's one of the most forgettable musicals ever written.

I never saw JOJO RABBIT and I assumed it was about a rabbit and not about a boy with an animal nickname. But in it went anyway with no hesitation. You don't forget a title like that.

I'm old enough to remember YOYO TRICKS like "walking the dog", though I don't remember being especially good at them. I think I was able to get the YOYO to stay down. My problem was getting it to come back up again.

I am not old enough to remember DODO BIRDS.

A cute and playful theme with a knockout of a revealer. Easy enough that it's a puzzle one might give to a novice solver. I think it would be a good choice -- breezy and entertaining.

RooMonster 8:56 AM  

Hey All !
14 row grid. Unsure why. Better fill? You still could've gone regular 15 rows and still had the Themers symmetrical. Maybe because Nate needed the LOLO/YOYO cross to work, or this theme never would've worked? That sounds logical to me. Serendipitous that it also worked for the RABBIT/BIRDS cross. OK, I take back my wonderment!

A bunch of Abbrs., but the grid is packed with Theme, so I can let that pass. Besides, most of them are well known. I know it wasn't easy to get any type of clean fill. The NE and SW corners are fraught with letters you need to work around. Three Themers in a small space!

And the center, too. Dang. Considering that, nice fill.

1A could've been the symmetric Revealer to XOXO. Clue: What it took to make this puzzle? 😁

Always seems a shame to me when a good puz that probably took forever to fill gets solved quickly. Oh well. Thanks for the good puz, Nate, stellar for the "bad" puz day that is Tuesday!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Gary Jugert 8:59 AM  

They shorted us a row, so we probably get a penny back. I did have a wonderful time XOXO-ing. Just delighted by this puzzle, but I'm wondering if ALLAH would be as keen, since...

Tee-Hees: NUDES! Ooooh yeah! GO DANCERS! Boom chicka-bowwow. HULA hubba hubba. When you drink WINE and SHAG after a TOKE it makes ya NUMB, don't it, dude? Keeping far away from being accused of being classy, eh NYTXW?

Uniclues:

1 What we write every day here.
2 Watch C-SPAN.
3 Sitcom based on me.
4 What that idiot is eating that I wanna have.

1 MOST FED-UP SASS (~)
2 SEE YOYO TRICKS (~)
3 JERK-ISH
4 DODOBIRD'S TACO

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Wooden faces singing vertically. TOTEM POLE ARIAS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 9:00 AM  

Bob & Conrad-Wikipedia says that “My Lady Friends” was the play Frazee financed with proceeds from the Ruth sale. Either way he sold the Babe for seed money for a play and 86 years of misery for Sox fans.

Barbara S. 9:02 AM  

Happy World Mental Health Day.

I enjoyed this one. Liked all the XOXO themers. Is GOGO DANCERS still a term in use for dancers in clubs, or is it confined to dancers in the 1960s-70s performing in “cages” wearing mini-skirts and high white boots? NO NO, NANETTE makes me think of the actress NANETTE Fabray, who seemed to be everywhere in television and movies at one time. She had a very small nose, I think due to multiple plastic surgeries and, thanks to the musical, was given the nickname “No-Nose” NANETTE. Re LARS: the unseen TV character that springs to my mind is Carlton the doorman on Rhoda. He’s frequently heard on the intercom (and always starts his announcements by saying “This is Carlton, your doorman”), but I think apart from an arm reaching around the door, he’s never seen.

OK, the puzzle. Yeah, pretty easy. The only error I can think of happened right off the bat in the NW: “trek” for SLOG, but HULA at 14A put me right. Didn’t know FANSUBS. For some reason, really enjoyed seeing FED UP in the grid. Thought there was a mini-DNA theme with RNA, HELIX and NODE.

UNICLUES (hi @Gary Jugert!):
1. The process of being rendered senseless by an incomprehensible modern painting.
2. Like a guy who abandons you at the dance but before he takes off, introduces you to one of his hunky friends.
3. Diet of a certain species of extinct avian which may help account for its demise.
4. Brontosaurus’s method of stopping one of its fiercest predators.
5. Sucker punch by your boss who tells you he’s reorganizing your section and you’re no longer in it.

1. ART NUMB
2. JERKISH
3. DODOBIRDS’ TACO
4. UBER TASE T-REX
5. MEGATON TKO

I can’t believe how long it’s been since I posted on this blog. I’ve been much busier than I like and I’ve missed hanging out with Rex and the Rexites. Some highlights of the past two months:
* I’ve been buffeted in a zodiac on the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nova Scotia
* I’ve met a pal who I hadn’t seen since 1968
* I’ve been rechristened “Aubra” by a lively two-year-old to whom I’ve lost many coloring competitions
* I’ve had a 91-year-old man fall in love with me because I remind him of his late wife
* I’ve rehabilitated a small, badly overgrown pollinators’ garden, featuring goldenrod, asters and milkweed
* I’ve rediscovered a long-ignored branch of the family and unearthed about 500 second and third cousins, all descending from my paternal grandfather’s six siblings
There. I just wanted you to know that I’ve spent my blog-absence-time wisely. I’ll undoubtedly disappear again, but I’ll try to come back as often as I can.

[SB: Sun -2, Mon 0. On Sunday, wanted BAIRN and TARN, which they wouldn’t accept, and then missed two total should’ves. Yesterday, was proud of myself for not panicking and melting down (as I usually do) in the face of ING.]

kitshef 9:09 AM  

@B$ - Hornets are a subset of wasps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornet

Anonymous 9:11 AM  

The insult “jerk” and the term “jerk” in cooking have different etymologies. In cooking, it comes from the word “jerky,” as in dried strips of meat. The insult comes from an old train term where they’d run out of steam and so would have to “jerk” (as in pull) water from streams to make more (or something like that, I learned this a long time ago), which wasn’t very effective. Train culture back then (30s) was close to Carnival culture, so “jerk” became a carnival slang term for an ineffective or lousy person. So there you go! (Went down an etymological rabbit hole years ago when I went to Jamaica and wondered the same question you did!)

Anonymous 9:11 AM  

As memorialized in the film “Fever Pitch”

Sam 9:22 AM  

Personal best time for a Tuesday

Ben 9:24 AM  

@B$ Frome Wikipedia: "Hornets (insects in the genus Vespa) are the largest of the eusocial wasps, and are similar in appearance to their close relatives yellowjackets"

BlueStater 9:25 AM  

Very easy, except for a *glaring* Natick at 36D/49A. "Jerk chicken?" TAYE? Get serious.

JD 9:29 AM  

I must've known No No Nanette because of the 1971 Broadway revival, but how that filter down to I can't imagine. Wikipedia says the play didn't cause the Ruth debacle, but a non-musical version of it called My Lady Friends that opened in 1919 did. Potato Potawto.

So relatively quickly-Ish threw in the downs in the SE corner that I didn't notice the reveal. Thanks to my daughter for being an SDSU alum, which also helped with Olmec (part of the name of a dorm) a few days ago.

Unknown 10:10 AM  

It was fun, but I was bracing myself for a write-up that began "SOSOPUZZLE." Glad Rex enjoyed it, too, so we didn't have to read that. Besides Lars (who had an affair with Sue Ann Givens!!), please include on your list Maris Crane, unseen wife of Niles on Frazier.

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

I came here to say the same thing!

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

Well, until she got her own show!

Whatsername 10:31 AM  

Fun, quick and easy, almost efficiently so. I agree with Rex today, especially about the revealer. My reaction was similar - sort of an “OK, that’s that.” Then came the perfect revealer in the perfect spot and it turned into “Wow! Pretty clever TRICK.” I liked the way that worked.

The foreign-film clued FANSUBS was a totally foreign term to me. Besides Frasier’s Maris, another invisible TV character I thought of was Juanita, Barney Fife’s very first love interest on the Andy Griffith Show.

egsforbreakfast 10:31 AM  

The explanation of FANSUBS got me to thinking about Mystery Science Theater 3000. Not quite the same concept, but related. A guy and some homemade robots riffing on a Grade B SciFi film for an hour. Time magazine put it in its list of 100 Greatest TV series.

A major part of Phyllis Diller’s act was her fictitious husband Fang and his whacko family.

My 6 year old granddaughter is named Golden and goes by GOGO. And she’s quite a DANCER.

And here’s a shoutout to YOYO Ma. Dude can cello!

Fun Tuesday. Thanks, Nate Cardin.

Nancy 10:31 AM  

@Barbara S -- Sure, it would be pretty hard to write a Rexblog comment while being buffeted in a zodiac in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. I sympathize, truly I do. But other than that...

I'm sure your 500 newly-discovered cousins wouldn't mind sharing you. Nor your friend from 1968. Nor the love-smitten 91-year-old man. Nor the lively two-year-old coloring whiz.

Come back to the blog, Barbara. You've been missed!

Kate Esq 10:38 AM  

Easy peasy for me. Finished with my best Tuesday time at sub 5.

Anonymous 10:39 AM  

Great hearing from you again! Loved your UNICLUES - inspired - some of the very best that have appeared here. Sounds like you have had some wonderful, productive and serendipitous experiences! One question - what is, "buffeted in a zodiac on the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nova Scotia" mean? Kathy

Gary Jugert 10:42 AM  

@Barbara S. 9:02 AM
Welcome back! In your absence, I have sat here in my La-Z-Boy hitting refresh hoping for one of your posts. So, less busy than you.

johnk 10:44 AM  

HOHO, TOTO, just SOSO-ISH. OK, better than that, but I just had to.
Nice to see SARAH Silverman today.
DODO clue for MEGATON. A less INEPT clue would be "Measure of explosive force based on a weight". It doesn't just sound like a weight, as if it were coincidental.

Anonymous 10:45 AM  

Am I the only one who got the T and L and confidently wrote in aTL, then had a hard time figuring out what a sTANANGLE was? I know baseball teams but I am never going to remember who is in which league. Took me an extra minute to figure out how to fix that one.

Masked and Anonymous 10:57 AM  

@RP: yep. MOMOFUKU woulda been pretty … somethin … all right.
Agree that the XOXO revealer made the puztheme shine a lot brighter.

14x15 puzgrid … for reasons unknown.

Puz had a few no-know-nanettes, at our house:

* LOLOJONES/Japanese JERK chicken/TAYE. Solvequest got kinda tense, in this area. Guessed it ok, after a bit of a nanosecond lag.

* JOJORABBIT/FANSUBS. But, hey -- once U got RA?BIT, it ain't real hard to deduce the answers.

staff weeject pick: Nuthin stood out, today. Will go with DRJ, well-known vet for JOJORABBIT.

Thanx, Mr. Cardin dude. Pretty good stuff, in toto. U do owe us one puzrow, tho.

Masked & Anonymo5Us


**gruntz**

CT2Napa 11:04 AM  

Modern yoyo tricks are far from walking the dog

2023 yoyo championship

Doghairstew 11:07 AM  

Missed a chance to put Yoyo Ma in the puzzle. Love that guy!

jae 11:10 AM  

Yep, easy but, as @Rex pointed out, it’s a truncated grid. Very smooth given the theme density, liked it.

Did not know LOLO and FANSUB (thanks @Rex for the explanation).

I have a vague memory of seeing Vera in a Thanksgiving episode?

jberg 11:14 AM  

Yes, a very enjoyable puzzle. I solved it the normal way, working the crosses, and as it happened I had three of the across themers before I realized that there were downs, as well. Very impressive! I'm willing to forgive DODO BIRDS (They're birds, but 'bird' is not part of the species name), given the number and interlocking nature of the themers.

Incidentally, the reason MEGATON sounds like a weight is that it is a weight -- specifically, the weight of TNT that would have that much explosive force.

@Barbara S., welcome back! Hope to see you again sooner!

Here, for your listening pleasure, is the No-No-Nonette a nonet by P.D.Q. Bach.

andrew 11:17 AM  

@whatsername 10:31 - along with Juanita, the other great unseen character from Andy Griffith was Sarah, the hardest working woman in telecommunications. This operator was always on duty!

A partial list of the neither seen nor heard classics:

Maris, Vera, Carlton and more

jae 11:17 AM  

@bocamp - re: Croce - that was my lucky guess in the SW corner

Carola 11:31 AM  

Really cute! I was solving with half a brain (lots coming up today and tomorrow) so didn't even notice the DODO, GOGO, etc. sequence, and the result was double delight: first, the surprise of the reveal, which, well, revealed the pattern; and then @Rex's pointing out the genius of "X." Impressive construction feat, too.

@Barbara S. - It's nice to see you back!

GILL I. 11:39 AM  

Que fun....I had only one doover. I don't know the difference between a GEEK and a NERD. A TOKE cleared that one up. I did my mind wander at GOGO DANCERS.
A true tale that has been told before. Hi @Barbara S:

Back in my other life in Spain, I was a GOGO DANCER. @Barbara S must've read my autobiography....Those were interesting wild and really fun days. You see, Spain was what seemed like the last European country to embrace the nightclub, disco dancing craze acts of the 60's/70's....
Spanish "ladies" with a good reputation to uphold, had to be home by around 9pm to have dinner with the family. We foreigners had no such restrictions. We wore mini skirts out in the street and endured stares and tsk tsks galore. We were going to revolutionize Madrid and bring in the Beatles era. One of the first discos in Madrid to open with some all mighty flair was called "La Boîte." There were others, but this club was large and had strobe lights and cages. It would open around 10 PM and the dancing and loud music would begin....
My American and British friends were either dating or knew someone from "Los Bravos" or "Los Brincos" and we became their dancing fans. We also didn't have to wait in line to get in. My, oh, my!

The manager asked me if I'd dance in a cage. I had the required mini skirt and white thigh high boots; I could bounce around with the best of them....I had very long hair, good teeth and my legs were skinny. My answer was a very loud SI

Chapter 5...page 60...paragraph 3: I was a GOGO DANCER and danced in a cage.

My knees creak now and the boots are long gone and I'm a bit saner now that I've grown up. Just to be sure, I never attended Woodstock...I was too scared.

XOXO.

jb129 11:42 AM  

This was over way too fast - a typical Tuesday puzzle & fun!

Thanks, Nate. Hope to see you again soon.

DuckReconMajor 11:56 AM  

"oh I know that tiger gas station, it's Exxon! oh wait, 4 letters"

What is ESSO? Apparently it's related to Exxon somehow. I didn't know LARS, I was convinced 67 was ICEE, so I ended up giving up lol.

In any case, good theme and i was delighted when FANSUB fit

Whatsername 12:00 PM  

@Barbara S (9:02) What an exciting summer! Sounds like you not only survived but thrived. I’m thinking I’ll convert a tomato spot to a pollinator garden next year; now I know where I can get some good advice. I assume your “Aubra” tag is from a grandchild? It’s pretty special when they decide for themselves what you’re going to be called. My two year old grandnephew has christened me Aunt Tommy. I love it.

The references to the Mary Tyler Moore Show and the missing Lars reminded me that the small nosed NANETTE Fabray occasionally appeared as Mary’s mother.

@Andrew (11:17) Sarah! Oh goodness, I had completely forgotten about her. Enjoyed perusing that list also. Thank you for sharing.

Anonymous 12:14 PM  

Recommend JOJO RABBIT for those who haven’t seen it. Charming, clever, devastating.

Anonymous 12:16 PM  

Did any one else notice that TWO is not the smallest prime number?

Masked and Anonymous 12:19 PM  

p.s.
Yo, @Barbara S darlin!

Fans of XOXO-stuff might also wanna check out the 28 Jan 2002 NYTPuz. TOTO made the cut, in that rodeo.

M&Also

Rick K 12:22 PM  

Enjoyed the revealer, for sure! Still, any puzzle with 55 of its 75 words 3 or 4 letters is lacking a bit. I agree with those who say this felt like a Monday.

Anonymous 12:23 PM  

TWO is not the smallest prime number. One is. Two is the smallest (and only even) prime number. I wonder that the word even was left out of the clue.

Still waiting 12:48 PM  

My first thought when I filled in Gogo Dancer: we’ll hear from Gill I. today.

Teedmn 1:04 PM  

Not long ago I was a a party where someone had a yo-yo. The host started playing with it and I asked if he knew any tricks like "Walk The Dog". He proceeded to show it off while at the same time astounding some 20-something girls who grew up in Ukraine. They had all owned yo-yos but had no idea you could do anything with one besides have it go up and down. (Which is more than I ever managed with the darn things - maybe it would go up and down twice and then it would die; no idea what I was doing wrong.)

This was a breezy Tuesday puzzle, thanks Nate Cardin!

Anonymous 1:40 PM  

Solved using down clues only.

Anoa Bob 1:47 PM  

Not as enamored with this one as many of yous seem to be. I didn't think it was INEPT or a SLOG to JEER at, just more of a so-so than a NO-NO. As has been noted, once the trick was revealed, for me after the second themer, the rest pretty much fell in place. Well, other than the JONES after LOLO.

Like @Nickyboy 8:02, I thought the grid was a bit of an S fest. Some longer non-theme entries, like FANSUB and HORNET needed an S bump. And it's always a major demerit in my book when a theme entry has to rely on a POC (plural of convenience) to get the job done. It happens here when GOGO DANCER, DODO BIRD and YOYO TRICK each need a letter count boost to fill their slots.

Has the NYTXW crew just recently watched Cheech and Chong's 1978 Up In Smoke? Seems like TOKE, WEED, BLUNT, HIT and other dated ganja speak has been showing up a lot of late.

I think the POCs, the reduced 15X14 grid and the relatively high number of black squares were necessary to get six (!) longish themers to work. That couldn't have been easy. And it's hard not to like a puzzle that has the SDSU Aztecs in it (Class of '73).

okanaganer 2:14 PM  

Rex, is that a deliberate error you made?... "it's actually most prevalent in the world of television than that of film". You said "most" rather than "more" because it's the second across answer today, right? I'm onto you.

Hands up for struggling with JONES and TAYE crossing JERK. For a while I thought it had to be TAYA and maybe BONES crossing BARK.

ESSO is very often clues as "Canadian gas" cuz we still have them.

Barbara S... welcome back! I have been worried, but you do make a habit of going away for a while, as I kept telling myself. Your summer sounds one heck of a lot funner than mine. In chronological order: fleeing a wildfire at our cabin, driving through another one on the way home, enduring an ill-advised regional travel ban, then being cut off from all my family by a major rock slide. I just returned home last night from closing up the cabin... the first time I have been there since August 18th. And the first crisis free visit of the year. (Except on my way home last night the highway was closed by a major accident so I had to detour on a gravel road for an hour or so... what next, honestly.) I completely missed seeing my great niece this year as she's back at nursing school now; hopefully will see her at Christmas.

[No Spelling Bee over the weekend... back on it today.]

Anonymous 2:35 PM  

I feel like a DODOBIRD. This was difficult for me due principally to the proper nouns. Only easy answer was NANETTE. I have no idea why I knew it.

Joe Dipinto 3:25 PM  

@Jae – yes, there was a Cheers Thanksgiving episode that took place at Carla's house as I recall, and the dinner degenerated into a food fight. At the end Vera walked in only to get hit in the face with a pie thrown by Diane. So once again we didn't actually see her.

Joe Dipinto 3:35 PM  

@Anons 12:16 & 12:23 – One is not a prime number. Look it up.

maverick 3:47 PM  

SO, SO, SO, impressive. I'll take rudimentary clean fill over the trash crosswordese (we so often get) any day of the week. And this was super clean. Plus just the shear amount of theme squares (and in limited space) meant there wasn't any space left to be flashy in the non-theme fill.

Definitely felt easy for Tue, but a great puzzle overall., impressive. I'll take rudimentary clean fill over the trash crosswordese (we so often get) any day of the week. And this was super clean. Plus just the shear amount of theme squares (and in limited space) meant there wasn't any space left to be flashy in the non-theme fill.

Definitely felt easy for Tue, but a great puzzle overall.

maverick 3:58 PM  

Man, seriously. I want to be ageist, but I don't know if I want to call them too young and entitled to post a blatantly false comment like that without even caring to look it up or knowing that they aren't math smart enough to make such a comment.

Or too old for not knowing how to type f***ing "prime number" into Google. It's right there in any definition. Sad that are school system has failed us this bad and I don't just mean on the math, but also the critical thinking. /rant over

Math Major (with a degree to prove it) 4:06 PM  

For a number to be called as a prime number, it must have only two positive factors. Now, for 1, the number of positive divisors or factors is only one i.e. 1 itself. So, number one is not a prime number. Note: 2 is the smallest number that satisfies the definition of prime numbers. Negative numbers are not prime numbers.

maverick 4:16 PM  

For other casual math nerds, here is a pretty decent in-depth (for me) blog post on the history of 1, how it wasn't even considered a number for most of mathematical history and how it came to be universally defined as not prime.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/roots-of-unity/why-isnt-1-a-prime-number/

maverick 4:19 PM  

Lol, botched the SOSO wordplay on my phone. It wasn't very good anyway. 😂

Joe Dipinto 5:07 PM  

Lars did manage to get some outside action on the MTM show: he had a fling with Sue Ann, causing Phyllis to ruin Sue Ann's chocolate soufflé at the end.

Anonymous 5:46 PM  

Speaking 2 languages fluently is hard enough, but being able to create English subtitles for a foreign film or TV series sounds even more difficult. I doubt very many college students could have done it

dgd 5:59 PM  

Sounds like the show you mentioned would make more sense timing wise as No No Nanette came out so much later.
I vaguely some historian question the whole story but it is so good I choose to believe it. (I am a Boomer. As a child I was a Yankees fan , though I lived only 40 miles from Fenway Park. But I switched to the Red Sox during the Impossible Dream year and stuck with them since.)

Anonymous 6:22 PM  

Well I have never eaten it but I have heard about jerk chicken repeatedly. Lately, in my Italian-American ( originally) neighborhood, a Jamaican restaurant with jerk chicken opened up. Doesn’t sound that obscure to me. There’s been a big upsurge of food styles from other countries becoming popular in the US. So if you weren’t aware of it, most people are these days. Perfectly valid crossword clue/answer.
Because Taye Diggs’ first name has convenient letters, his first name has frequently appeared in the Times. It is almost crosswordese. He is a reasonably well known contemporary actor also. Nothing unserious about it.

dgd 6:38 PM  

As a guess maybe because dodo has the added insulting meaning, there is a tendency to say dodo bird. (In dead as a dodo the meaning is clear by context). I remember hearing or reading dodo bird perhaps more often as a child. But it still seems normal to me I don’t think bird is padding here for that reason.

Anonymous 6:49 PM  

Decades ago a predecessor to ExxonMobil, Esso (short for Standard Oil) change its name, at least in the US to Exxon. I think Esso is still used in Canada Barbara S. would know. It’s an age thing. Boomers all know Esso. It is also a common early week answer for the Times so remember it!

Anonymous 10:38 AM  

Clever theme. Not much junk fill. I thought good puzzles like this had gone the way of the DODOBIRD.

Burma Shave 12:12 PM  

HULA GAL

You SEE, SARAH was INEPT at TRICKS,
a SASSY GEEK FEDUP with dudes,
so a DATE ORE TWO to SHAG with chicks
and GOGODANCERS in the NUDE.

--- DR. NANETTE JONES

spacecraft 1:43 PM  

Was looking for JOJOSTARBUCK. Oh well. Never heard of the rabbit.

Cutesy theme, OK fill. Let JOJOJONES have the DOD. Birdie.

Wordle phew!

Diana, LIW 1:49 PM  

Hey! Did anyone speak with Yoko Ono about her stunning omission from this puzzle about her? Did someone in FutureLand already do this?

This puzzle is the ONLY reason that someone could mention GOGODANCERS anymore. Brings back the old Goldie Hawn and Laugh In days.

Glad to see folks are not labeling the theme/trick so-so.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Diana, LIW 1:54 PM  

PS - Did I mention that I saw Yo Yo Ma with the local symphony in September? My first outing since the pandemic began, and I ended up with "Short Covid." (Teensy symptoms that lasted only one day, but I had to quarantine for five - worst part was "cabin fever.")

Lady Di

rondo 9:39 PM  

Goldie in the GOGODANCER days? Yes'm.
Also a wordle phew. Way too many possibilities to think there was a triple letter.

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