Pioneers, in hip-hop slang / THU 11-5-26 / Nickname of the protagonist in 2024's "Anora" / Sea urchin, on a sushi menu / ___ Batlló, Antoni Gaudí masterpiece whose roof arch mimics a dragon's back / Big Apple menagerie / Refueling spot / Call made with outstretched arms
Thursday, November 5, 2026
Constructor: David P. Williams
Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
THEME: "IT'S ALL GREEK TO ME" (39A: Admission of confusion ... or a hint for interpreting four answers in this puzzle) — circled squares contain Greek letters (spelled out) in the Acrosses and LATIN letters (i.e. regular letters) in the Downs (59A: Like the alphabet of the circled letters in the Down answers, but not in the Across answers):
Theme answers:
- WALKIE-TALKIES / ACHY (17A: Hand-held communication devices / 5D: Feeling tender)
- CLASSIC HITS / BRONX ZOO (26A: Songs played on an oldies station / 11D: Big Apple menagerie)
- POWERHOUSES / PISAN (55A: Juggernauts / 56: Galileo, for one)
- SILENT AUCTION / ITEM (64A: Popular fund-raising event / 61D: Couple)
Casa Batlló (Catalan pronunciation: [ˈkazə βəˈʎːo]) is a building in the center of Barcelona, Spain. It was designed by Antoni Gaudí, and is considered one of his masterpieces. A remodel of a previously built house, it was redesigned in 1904 by Gaudí (although the actual construction had not begun at this point) and has been refurbished several times since. Gaudí's assistants Domènec Sugrañes i Gras, Josep Canaleta and Joan Rubió also contributed to the renovation project.
Casa Batlló is located on the Passeig de Gràcia in the Eixample district and forms part of a row of houses known as the Illa de la Discòrdia (or Mansana de la Discòrdia, the "Block of Discord"), so named because it features four striking, and strikingly different, buildings by noted Modernista architects of Barcelona.
Like everything Gaudí designed, Casa Batlló is only identifiable as Modernisme in the broadest sense. The ground floor, in particular, has unusual tracery, irregular oval windows and sculpted stonework with sinuous, squiggly forms. There are few straight lines, and much of the façade is decorated with a colorful mosaic made of broken ceramic tiles (trencadís).
In 2005, Casa Batlló became a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
- Having no idea about the CASA at 1A (see "Word of the Day") really kneecapped my start. Without the first letters for all the Downs up there, I was hopeless. Struck out. Zero for four.
- I had NIT for IRK (7D: Peeve). Did not comprehend that [Peeve] was a verb. Mostly used to seeing it as a noun (following "pet").
- I know FLO & Eddie, but I totally blanked on FLO. It's been a while. FLO & Eddie were founding members of the Turtles who were not allowed to use the name "Turtles" *or* their own actual names in a musical context, for contractual reasons, so they started as The Phlorescent Leech and Eddie and eventually ... well, FLO just sounds nicer than Phlorescent Leech. Unlike the Turtles ("Happy Together," "She'd Rather Be With Me," "Elenore"), FLO & Eddie didn't really have any CLASSIC HITS. They worked with Zappa, and did a ton of backing vocal work for different artists, but I know only one actual FLO & Eddie song (it's a weird one, and a good one)
Bullets:
- 5A: Cheese that comes from northern Italy and not another continent! (ASIAGO) — first of all, "northern Italy" is not a "continent," so the phrasing here is, let's say, bad. I guess the "joke" of this clue is that the cheese name ASIAGO contains "ASIA" but that's not how you pronounce the name—it's not ASIA-GO, like "I want to GO to ASIA." If you really want a corny name-related joke, you'd be better off with a Shakespeare angle: [... and not how you'd go to an Othello-themed Halloween party!]. Something like that.
- 28D: British bottom (ARSE) — had the "R" and immediately and confidently wrote in PRAT. That's British slang for an incompetent or stupid person, but the word does also mean "buttocks."
- 46A: Political leader? (GEO) — in that GEO- can be a prefix for "Political." Yeah I don't love it either. Nor do I love the clue on ESS (66D: Letter indicating ownership?). I assume this is the possessive apostrophe-"S" that they're referring to (as in the phrase "dealer's choice").
- 10D: Refueling spot (OASIS) — so "refueling" is metaphorical, then? A place of refuge, where you can get water (in the desert), rest for a bit, eat something?
- 2D: A gamer may use one (AVATAR) — Do you "use" them? Don't you just have them? An AVATAR is an image that represents the player. Not sure why, but "use" feels strange. Don't all players have AVATARs by default?
- 47A: Gray matter? (ODES) — yeesh, deep cut. Thomas Gray (1716-71) was a poet. Some of his poems were ODES. He's most famous for "Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard."
- 8D: Nickname of the protagonist in 2024's "Anora" (ANI) — first thing in the grid for me. Nice late-week way to dodge a Star Wars reference (I've seen enough of young Anakin's nickname)
- 72A: Governor Gavin (NEWSOM) — Ugh. I'm thrilled with Tuesday's election results, obviously, but now that that's over, I gotta watch this blowdried billionaire-loving blowhard run for president for the next two years and I am Not looking forward to it.
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110 comments:
Nice flow until the S where the Galileo clue stumped me because I didn’t remember rho=p until after the puzzle’s completion. Familiarity in two codes helped me finish faster than average: Greek alphabet and crosswordese.
Avatar doesn’t just refer to a static image representing a player - it can also refer to the actual character you are controlling in the game, which then makes more sense for “use.”
Fortunately learned the Greek alphabet on a trip there two years ago; otherwise this would have been nigh on impossible to fully understand the gimmick. But otherwise not a very hard solve. And agree on NEWSOM - we must do better.
66D, Letter indicating Ownership? Ess?
Read the blog?
Two extra sweet moments in the solve for me:
• Uncovering the gorgeous looking and sounding PATOIS.
• Appreciating the never-before-used brilliant clue [Unlikely buyer?] for SKEPTIC.
These on top of the lovely uncovering of the double-layered theme, and overcoming obstacles my brain loves – vague and tricky wordplay clues.
I remember this constructor. His first five puzzles had the same beautiful low-wordcount grid design, and were inspired by Wallace Stevens’s “Thirteen Was of Looking at a Blackbird”. They were themeless and very tough – in a good way – for me to solve.
Today, David, I will visualize your middle initial P as RHO. But most importantly today, a big thank you for pouring so much pleasure into the box!
Perhaps I should have solved this puzzle at my PAT(IOTA)BLE, drinking TI(BETA)N tea, while hoping I was UPTO(THETA)SK.
61D seems to break the pattern. The other downs treat the Greek letter literally (rho -> P, eta -> H), but TAU looks like an English T already.
I enjoyed this! It was fun to figure out what was happening… Had sore before ACHY sot that made it took a while. Saw that it had to be WALKIETALKIE… and there was ETA. Nice. I know the Greek alphabet enough to recognize all the letters, so that helps. Again…. This took me almost 11 minutes. I find myself wondering how long it would have taken me without the circles!!! Would have definitely had to have the revealer before figuring out the conceit, if there were no circles. Anyhoo… fun puzzle, nice to have 4 different Greek letters, nice to visit the BRONXZOO too! Biggest trouble was that I had gEl before SET, so I couldn’t see LATIN. Also…. I guess there is a famous odist named Gray??? No clue. That was a Saturday level clue… Gray matter for ODES? Ah yes, Thomas Gray, my favorite Odist (never heard of him, though I may have heard of Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard…. ). Thank you, David! Wonderful puzzle!
These are fabulous, Lewis. You always cheer us up and entertain us : )
Gosh, this puzzle felt like it was *almost* really good. A few tweaks and it could have been a lot of fun. Easy for a Thursday. A little disappointed that we used the “Greek-looking” letters rather than spelling them out in a rebus. Ah, well. Not bad, just fine.
Or perhaps journey T(OMICRON)ESIA. (Hi, RP!)
The rebus worked as well—Rex shows both at the top of the page.
In the Chicago area, they use the term OASIS for a commercialized rest area built over the tollway. I was interpreting the clue that way, though if those are only a northern Illinois thing maybe it’s too deep a cut.
Hey All !
The ole brain took a minute to grok what in tarhooties those circles were all about. Had CLASSICTS in, looking like a misspelling of classisist. But couldn't get myself to put a Rebus C/X there, and besides, that made no sense either. Finally dawned on me at WALKIETALKIES, as I knew it had to be that, but staring at ___IHLKIES at first had me all namby pamby. Then the ole lightbulb clicked on, and I saw the ruse. GREEK letters Across, LATIN letters Down. OHO!
Thin Theme, yes, put effective. Tough to construct, I'm sure. Had to find words/phrases with GREEK letters in a row that worked with regular letter words, cross them 4 times, and still have good fill with a grid spanning Revealer. More than just a hair or two yanked out.
Fun ThursPuz, David. HXPT ETACHIRHOTAU. ITS ALL GREEK TO ME. 😁
Hope y'all have a great Thursday!
Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
Fantastic late week trick - a swing and a miss from the big guy today. The spanning revealer is the highlight. BRONX ZOO x CLASSIC HITS is epic.
Closer To Fine
Overall fill was solid - Rex does summarize nicely. A few more misdirects than we’re used to that gave some pause but clean and slick for the most part. STEWARDS, ICE MELT, MERINO, LATRINE are all solid. PATOIS is a show off entry and don’t care much for STENTS or SELFIE. Years ago I had a physics professor who took points off on an exam if we didn’t include the overring for the ANGSTROM symbol Å.
SOLACE is the theme of the day.
Jenny Owen Young
Highly enjoyable Thursday morning solve.
Silver Haired Daddy Of Mine
The British Army calls it a Lootrine
You mean I didn’t have to write out each Greek letter name as a rebus? Darn.
Like it
OMICRON: Comic Ron White?
I didn't get the reward at the end of ...Today. the completed the puzzle correctly
Went back again and checked. I had RAT instead of REF...OOF
I liked it, but how do you get the NYT app's happy music? for example, the cross bronXzoo/classiCHIts... how do you enter the cross into the box? X/CHA? confused
Love the puzzle. Great theme and a lot of nice long downs, too.
I got the theme pretty quickly but was unable to put it to good use. I did find arse next to latrine, amusing. No🎈for me.
Liked this much more than @RP did—sorry the election didn’t put him in a better mood, though we do still have to deal with the ever deepening physical darkness of these days.
For some reason I did not get the music until I replaced Latin letters with Greek rebus squares. Quite unexpected.
Thanks to @Lewis and @Liveprof for excellent additions to the punnery!
webwinger
This is the 4th time this theme has been done: See 5/31/18, 3/17/11, and 9/12/06. Frustrating for constructors who get rejections with the “this puzzle is too similar to another” rationale.
Agreed. Liked it much more than Rex, and thought the theme was pretty clever and well executed.
Exactly. Theme felt tired, with nothing to elevate it above similar stuff I’d seen before.
Either one will work (but your issue may be the CHA instead of CHI — you need the entire rebus to be correct for happy music today).
I really appreciate today's write-up as questions abounded about some clues after quickly finishing the puzzle. "Nickname of the protagonist in 2024's 'Anora'" is a garbage clue (but, as OFL states, thankfully not "Star Wars" garbage).
Example of what worked for me at intersection of 26A and 11D: CHI / X
I seem to remember that "eta" for H has been used a number of times before.
Rex is just as tough on politicians as he is on crosswords. NEWSOM is a "blowdried billionaire-loving blowhard." Even though their politics seem to be very similar.
I lav it! And thanks to you TIL that "lutrine" means relating to, or characteristic of, otters. So I don't have to say "ottery" anymore, although, tbh, it doesn't come up very often.
I put it in as CHI/X and that worked.
just realized why ARKansas has the most dry counties and not NEVada - ha ha
I’m still confused, because Rho *doesn’t* equal P, it looks like P, but equals R. I had PI there til the end when I had to admit it was RHO, but that feels wrong.
These are priceless @Lewis!
Dr. R you have sent me back to my childhood in early-60s when I would spend 2-3 weeks in the summer with my Aunt and Uncle in Dyer, Indiana. When we would go on fun “trips” into Chicago (maybe to Riverview?) I was SO intrigued when we’d go by an Oasis and remember saying this:
Beezer: Can we stop there some time? (Probably 30 minutes from Dyer)
Aunt: Those are for travelers.
Beezer: Aren’t WE traveling?
I guess that seemed like the equivalent of a Buc-ees today…anything to get you out of the back seat of a car!
You can put the X or CHI in the rebus circle but you have to be consistent with what you choose.
Para mí es todo como si fuera griego (o latín).
I presume the purpose here is to call Greek letters Latin and work everybody into a frenzy. It's right, but a weird way to think about it. Mostly the puzzle was cooperative, so a pleasant time.
That Casa Batlló is a hell of a remodel. Won't see that on one of those HGTV shows where everything ends up gray and straight.
I like the word ANGSTROM. I don't need it for anything, but I wish I did. PATOIS fits in the same category. Pretty useless words.
Gunkometer--
People: 8
Places: 2
Products: 3
Partials: 7
Foreignisms: 0
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 20 of 78 (26%)
Funny Factor: 2 😕
🔥 Ooh-la-la! 🔥 LSD. ARSE LATRINE.
Uniclues:
1 Kill a zombie horde singlehandedly then go to a virtual ale house.
2 Social networks.
3 A dragon (or skull) shaped tap.
4 One who has been fooled by a mirage and isn't letting that happen again.
5 Very little gobbledegook.
1 AVATAR TO DO LIST
2 SELFIE STEWARDS
3 GEEK'S KEG ITEM
4 OASIS SKEPTIC
5 ANGSTROM PATOIS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Adult oriented drawing device with two plastic knobs. ETCH-A-BREAST.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just saw Anon 7:51 and didn’t realize this had been done four times. Ah well, I very much enjoyed it and had fun figuring out the conceit. I did have a d’oh moment with Galileo when my brain temporarily forgot that RHO is a P…how is Galileo rISAN?
True to its motto, the NYT puzzle today contained all the GNUS that's fit to print. (A tired one, I know. Low-hanging fruit. Still, it had to be said.)
Count me among those who find NEWSOM noisome, tho certainly preferable to You-Know-Whom.
The delicate gown my beautiful daughter wore recently got rave reviews. One of her friends said "That is SO LACE."
After his recent heart procedure, Tom's praise for his cardiologist was STENTorian.
Sorry these puns aren't CORNEA. Will try again tomorrow. (That's a warning.)
The particular Greek letters were probably chosen because they don't contain the Latin letter they look like (no H in ETA, no X in CHI, no P in RHO) -- except that they only found 3 of them, and so just gave up with TAU.
Haha @mathgent! I will say I chuckled at “blowdried billionaire-loving blowhard” and kinda thought the same thing. I think I’m ready for a non-blowhard these days, which includes oligarch and despot-loving blowhards…
Loved it! I actually thought the big guy would as well and was surprised when I mossed over to his blog.
Not really my cuppa today. There was plenty to like but I found the whole enterprise just a bit, I don't know...messy. I grocked the theme pretty early as the revealer dropped easily, and I know the Greek alphabet well enough. I guess I was thinking like @Rex that there had to be more to the circled letters.
As I said, there were some high points. The revealer/spanner is a great phrase and there were several longish ones that made for great fill like BRONXZOO, TODOLIST, and PATOIS. I got a kick out of the cluing for LATRINE and I happened to chuckle at the fact that it stood right next to ARSE😊 There was also some fresh cluing for LSD which is much appreciated. When a word has that much staying power, coming up with something new is no easy fit, much respect there.
Thanks for this one, David. Not really in my wheelhouse but a lot of good stuff here.
this one hit a sweet spot for me between difficulty and zing, which made it really enjoyable
Well I guess my personal Star Wars counter went back down to 0 from the blog. I now reflexively count ORCs and ENTs on a LOTR counter also.
Not remembering the other iterations of this theme, it seemed and may well have been original (if they hadn't seen the others) and at least merited a 3 average score. What's not to like about taking SOLACE in wearing MERINO at the BRONXZOO on your fall TODOLIST? Enough to win out over the inner ANGSTROM of COWARDly SKEPTIC.
BTW - I love seeing OFL in the comment section!!
I thought this puzzle cleaner and enjoyed it.
However, it had a bunch of clues/answers that I really winced at as in “oh please don’t be _____, oh man it’s going to be _____, yup it’s _____.” See ASIAGO, CORNEA (original wince came when I was thinking CORNEr), CYA, ATASTE, ISINTO…
Still liked it!
Same here! Grew up in a western suburb of Chicago in the ‘60’s and we actually stopped at the one by O’Hare every once in a while!!!
I’m pretty sure the only choice left would be using the Y for upsilon, which would be impossible.
Liked puzzle a lot. I thought the theme was clever and the revealer worked just fine, contra OFL.
But I did appreciate Rex’s write-up on FLO & Eddie (Mark Volman, who sadly passed away last year, and Howard Kaylan). I was a big Turtles fan when they strode the earth, and while I never really got into their music, I was well aware of F&E post-Turtles, mainly through reading Rolling Stone. They had a refreshing sense of humor about themselves, about music, about show business. This may be aprocyphal, but I seem to remember reading about once when the Turtles were invited to the Johnson White House, possibly for some gala or something, they snuck off to a bathroom to smoke pot.
Galileo was from PISA, i.e. he was a Pisan.
As a Californian, Newsom is absolutely as Rex described him, and my politics are very similar to Rex's. There's a big gap between the populist image Newsom likes to present to the public and his craven willingness to sacrifice anyone in pursuit of power. My wife says he's like the t-rex in Jurassic Park: when he's going after the velociraptors he seems like a hero, but that doesn't mean he cares about you, and you're probably next on the menu.
Well, that’s egg on my face for just skimming the article. Didn’t even notice there was a second grid posted!
I went to University of San Francisco with Gordon Getty. We weren't really friends but we knew each other. I sat next to him in a philosophy class. Instead of taking notes he would write music in a notebook with staffs printed on the pages. He wasn't a billionaire then but he was a gentle sweet guy. I wouldn't be insulted if someone called me his friend.
I liked this rebus variation. Luckily, the puzzle used Greek letters that I know - CHI and RHO from my churchy upbringing and ETA = H from previous puzzles. I couldn't have told you that T = TAU, but crosses took care of that one. I really liked the ANGSTROM PATOIS column. Agree with @Rex about Newsom. Ugh.
I agree! 4 stars!
Pritzker/Whitmer
Jeremy's iron
+1 @Lewis and @Liveprof.
I prefer Coke, but I'd settle for a P(EPSILON)G Island Iced Tea. Cheers!
I got very few of the top half Acrosses on first pass but finally got some traction and filled in ITS ALL GREEK TO ME easily. SILENT AUCTION, with its TAU, confirmed the theme. But there was some tough fill, like ANGSTROM crossing OGS--never heard of either of those. And I'm glad Rex explained how ESS is an indication of ownership, because I had no idea.
I did like the clue for SAFE (call made with outstretched arms). I kept picturing a crouching mother calling to her toddler and just couldn't envision the baseball scenario.
Getting tired of the LSD trips; we've sure had a lot of them lately.
Easy for a Thursday, but I liked it way more than Rex.
"Gray matter?" for ODE can go pound sand.
I've seen multiple variations of this theme even outside the NYT, but I still had a good time. I memorized the Greek alphabet, because crosswords. Third letter before omega? Phi chi psi omega! (It's always nice to apply otherwise useless knowledge.)
Fun puzzle, thanks Mr. Williams.
This was just fine for a Thursday. As Rex said, it would have been really great for there to be another level of theme where the circled squares stood for something.
Several names today, but not as ridiculous as it has been lately. Lots of shorties: ARK, ANI, EZRA, SARA, FLO, TONI, IHOP.
The whole business of Greek letters that look like a totally different Latin letter also happens in Cyrillic (eg Russian). If you view a Moscow street on Google Street View, you will see signs reading PECTOPAH. It's pronounced "ryes-tow-ran" and means "restaurant". So P = R, C = S, H = N. But although I know the sounds those letters make, I have no idea what the names of the letters are.
I did not know Rex's info regarding FLO and Eddie. I saw them perform on "The Midnight Special" as FLO and Eddie and the Turtles - I thought they'd always been a part of the Turtles. The song Rex linked to by the duo sounds like it was an influence on "Tame Impala". I listened to the song and then a medley of Tame Impala tunes on YouTube - very similar sounding style, to me.
I had 20A as the FBI because I thought a gamer might be using a Box of some sort but SELFIE and COWARD sorted that out to the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (and Explosives) group.
I had fun with this puzzle - saw the ETA rebus at WALKIE TALKIES but didn't get the ETA = H right away. X = CHI got me on the right track there. I needed P = RHO to see POWERHOUSES. Juggernaut is not a word I use in sentences.
David P Williams, thanks for a rebus Thursday!
Easy-medium except for the time it took me to figure out exactly what I needed to put in the circles.
Costly erasure - due before LAW (before I checked the crosses).
I did not know FLO, ARK, ANI, CASA, EZRA, and ANI.
Fun solve, delightful reveal, liked it quite a bit more than @Rex did.
Terrific serendipity that inside PATOIS (53D) lies a backward IOTA.
ALPHA-ETA-ALPHA-RHO!
Well, yep. Clearly this puztheme weren't everybody's KAPPA -- er, cuppa. As some blog historians have already pointed out, this theme mcguffin is a definite deja mu -- er, vu -- one.
Heck, I'm pretty sure it's even been done in a runtpuz theme before.
But, I think it rated acceptance for the publishin, based on it bein a cute puztheme [with many rebus-filler possibilities -- ALPHA, BETA, OMICRON, ZETA, EPSILON, IOTA, MU, NU, UPSILON, and the ones used today], and this puzgrid's got really Excellent 4-star fillins.
staff weeject pick: TAU. M&A woulda of course gone with MU, NU, and UPSILON for the other GEEKS -- er, GREEK -- puztheme letter choice U-choices.
Great stuff for the stuffins, hard to pick just a few. But one extra-fave thing: that stinky, sticky SELFIE clue. Also gotta be partial to Rebuses in The Circles, like @RP no doubt is.
Thanx for the fun, Mr. Williams dude. Nicemelt job.
Masked & Anonymo4Us
p.s.
Runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Agree about Newsom!
Easy enough for a mathematician who was also in a fraternity My wife and I chased around Barcelona looking at Gaudi masterworks in 2003. I liked the CASA for two things: the parabolic entrance and the spriral ramp to a parking area below.
Had to laugh at ARSE being next to LATRINE!
I've never lived anywhere but the northeast and I also call a rest area an OASIS, especially if it's the kind that sits between the two sides of the highway. The ones off to one side are more often "rest stops" in my brain. No idea why.
I'm having some problems with my computer this morning (well, it's after noon now but I began this task at about 10:30 am, my time). Sorry if it shows up twice. Don't want to bore you to death …
A pleasant enough Thursday. The fact that it’s been done a few times before doesn’t bother me. It still seems pretty clever. Though I haven’t had to use Greek in about 40 years, I still know how to spell, pronounce, and maybe construct a very, very simple sentence. I’ve forgotten so much. I wonder if I had not returned to Canada would I have, by now, forgotten how to speak English.
This is how bad it gets: I dropped in ACHY at 5D and then looked at 17A and knew it had to be WALKIE TALKIES, so I entered the 3 letter rebus and wondered what the AC(ETA)Y was. It wasn’t until I hit the grid-spanning revealer that the gimmick clicked. Aargh! Big head slap. And to think I used to be competent enough in this language to discuss politics - and the compicated football pools - with the guys at Giorgos’ tavern. Ah well, once the trick was uncovered, it became much easier.
I continued on, filling the circles with rebuses and it worked fine. When I finished and checked @Rex’s grids, I found myself liking the non-rebus version looked better. Wish I had done it that way.
Thanks, David P. Williams, for taking me back to Naxos and making me think a bit.
"Classic Hits" is not a term used in radio gene.
what is confusing hwre is that chi and xi are not the same letter. can anyone help me understand?
Why all the hate for Gavin Newsom? Yes, he’s a pretty boy, but he does seem to be smart. I recently watched a late night TV interview with him and I was impressed. If I was an American voter - which I’m not, so please excuse me if I’m meddling - I would be willing to support him. Or Bernie. They are totally different, but both smart and so much better than your present guy.
What would be my other choices?
believe rho was the p sound, not r sound
@Gary, after reading what you wrote, I'm in complete agreement with your take on ANGSTROM and PATOIS. Somehow I knew both answers, but for no practical reason that I can come up with.
Yeah some Greek letters look like Latin letters but not all are pronounced like the Latin letters they resemble. I found this a bit confusing as well
Leave ot to you, @Lewis
Leave it to you, @Lewis to notice the atoi! An extra iota of fun.
Not a Newsom fan either but he does some good stuff. Just commuted all California death sentences
@PH I didn’t realize Mr. Irons had a (identically-named) brother
Definitely a tale of two puzzles for me. Appreciated the theme itself, and enjoyed deciphering the Latin letters to their Greek counterparts. But at what cost? 28 three-letter words and 12 plurals, quite a few of them cringeworthy.
Not asking for a refund, and thinking Rex was a tad too stingy at only two stars. Liked it that the theme was needed during the solve versus (too often) an afterthought.
Take this show on the road!
This article will explain.
https://newrepublic.com/article/216389/gavin-newsom-keep-helping-oligarchs
FAULTY COMPLAINT ALERT:
The ALL part of the revealer is not an "overstatement" as OFL claims. The clue specifically says "...a hint for interpreting FOUR answers in this puzzle." Those FOUR answers ALL use greek letters.
I would like to see this theme on a Sunday and have it use all 14 of the Greek letters that are also Latin.
🤠
Very nice Thursday puzzle, thank you! Got the names from the crosses, and enjoyed the clever clues. Thanks, Rex, for the explanation of ESS. I liked that each Latin script letter had a corresponding Greek letter in the box. Gavin Newsom has posted some amusing trolling of trump posts so there’s that.
FAULTY COMMENT ALERT: only one circle in each theme answer is Greek, so it’s not even close to “all Greek.” Also, that letter is only Greek in one direction. Which makes for even less greek. Nowhere near all. 😎
Ha!
I put the Greek rebi in the circles and got the congrats. After finishing I wondered if I could just as well have used the Latin letters. Either way it was an inauspicious start to the late week.
One other thing Newsom has going against him: he used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle.
I imagine folks are thrilled by the blue tidal wave and Newsom commuting those sentences - it's hard to believe they didn't choose to publish this puzzle today without knowing what the Cali governor had done - it's a miracle along with good people winning nationwide.
can't speak for all of them of course I for one... am THRILLED
I don't understand what the issue is with the them phrase being used to describe the puzzles latin/greek letter/numbers. I've hear that phrase used for many things where you sum up your confusion by saying "it's all greek to me!" I've heard it said that way countless times. GO TEAM BLUE!
Late today, spent all morning on a Zoom meeting with some lawyers and an arbitrator as we are trying to recover a bunch of money. Everybody's got a hard luck story so I won't go into details. Then this PM was performing at a nursing home; I have realized that songs these "old folks" know best are from the '60's, and I think, oh oh, me too.
Not sure when I caught on to this one but I think it was at the TAU in SILENTAUCTION. I had been leaving a lot of the themers unfinished to see how they worked and already had ITSALLGREEKTOME. Come on man.
Thought CASA right away which panned out. Never made the connection between Gray the poet and ODES, this happens when the capital G is a first letter. Always sneaky and I always fall for it. Doubly embarrassing as I remember "The curfew tolls the knell of parting day" as my go-to example of iambic pentameter.
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I liked your Thursday a lot, DPW. Delightful Puzzle With a neat trick. Thanks for all the fun.
Anonymous 3:12 PM
The Greek letter looks like this
X
It represented in English as CHI
So in across X is a rebus for CHI in the across answer
Going down X is just that from our alphabet.
@Anon 3:33. Thanks for that link. As I said, I can't vote but I do like to be informed and I do like to have something to bring to a discussion with my cousins in Washington, Oregon, California, and Arizona.
Anonymous 11:15 AM
Striking image from your wife. In a lot of ways Newsom. has made me uncomfortable and I wasn’t sure why but now I am seeing T -Rex!
Rex later added that he also found the puzzle unoriginal. I only do the Times puzzle and I don’t remember the previous Greek letter themed ones. So I had a different reaction. I enjoyed this easy (to me) puzzle.The the did have the great revealer and LATIN. I don’t feel in the least deprived.
Definitely agree with Son Volt on this one.
The first three are letters that don't match how they sound in the Roman or English alphabet. H is eta in Greek, i.e., long e sound, but is 'aitch,' the aspirated consonant, in English. X is chi, i.e., ch as in 'chord,' in Greek, while it's 'ecks' in English. P is rho in Greek, i.e, the letter r, while p is p as in 'pea' in English. But tau/T doesn't fit with these; it's a T in Greek and it's a T in English. Kind of ruins the spirit of the theme, if you ask me.
The Tau doesn't fit with the other three IMHO, so you're right. Tau/T maps the same visually and aurally in Greek and in English/Latin, while the others do not. In my opinion, that violates the spirit of the theme.
Haha Les, one of my husband’s law partners was born in Greece. (Parents had WANTED to leave before he was born but apparently a pregnant emigre was a no go). This guy (now 70), has no Greek accent, BUT speaks Greek fluently (we’ve traveled with him in Greece), AND can imitate a person from Greece speaking English. (Multi-talented) I guess my point is…I doubt you would have ever forgotten how to speak English. Ya know…like riding a bicycle…🙂
Haha Les, one of my husband’s law partners was born in Greece. (Parents had WANTED to leave before he was born but apparently a pregnant emigre was a no go). This guy (now 70), has no Greek accent, BUT speaks Greek fluently (we’ve traveled with him in Greece), AND can imitate a person from Greece speaking English. (Multi-talented) I guess my point is…I doubt you would have ever forgotten how to speak English. Ya know…like riding a bicycle…🙂
Hey Les, I didn’t know ANY of this either. I’d like to think I’d study up and know it if he becomes anything other than the governor of California, but hey…my brain these days isn’t as multi-talented as it used to be…
I, Ron Jeremy.
A++, well done David P. Williams
Man - went down the rebus hole and abandoned it because it didn’t work in both the down and across and came here to find the stupidity of this construction. Felt I was on my way to record Thursday only to get blocked. Boo
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