Savory South Asian rice cake / WED 4-8-26 / Perry of pop / Traditional samurai hairstyles / Chant heard at the end of "Hot Hot Hot" / Enhancing accessories / Underground scurrier / "I'm afraid not," quaintly / Popular flavor of bubble tea / Half of a darting motion

Wednesday, April 8, 2026

Constructor: Philippe Monfiston

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: musical puns — familiar phrases where the first part of the phrase has been replaced by a musical term that sounds roughly like it:

Theme answers:
  • CODA SILENCE ("code of silence") (18A: Audience's reverent response to a symphony finale?)
  • SONATA THING ("so not a thing") (22A: That certain je ne sais quoi in Beethoven's "Moonlight"?)
  • STANZA CHANCE ("stands a chance") (36A: Opportunity for a choral understudy?)
  • FORZA MOMENT ("for the moment") (53A: When to play a note with sudden strong emphasis?)
  • ARIA KIDDING ("Are you kidding?") (58A: "What's Opera, Doc?"," e.g.?)
Word of the Day: forza (see 53A) —

forza

FORT-sah

[Italian, force]

Often seen as con forza, "with force"; a directive to perform the indicated passage of a composition forcefully, emphatically, or vigorously. (OnMusic Dictionary)

• • •

There's a wacky creative energy here that I like, but the theme is a little rough around the edges. First of all, this is one theme that kind of (kinda!) needs a revealer. I thought the theme was just "repronouncing 'a' endings" ... but the "a" ending of SONATA isn't repronounced at all. I didn't get that there was a musical throughline at all til I was done (mostly because I think of STANZA as a poetic term, not a musical one—I taught stanzaic poetry just yesterday). When I finally realized that the puns were all musical, I was on the one hand happier, since that makes the theme tighter than I'd imagined, but on the other hand more disappointed, because I really needed the punch of a revealer to tie it all together, to give it a particular sense of purpose. You could do first word puns from any area of knowledge, but why? Why do all the puns end in "a" but not all of them actually pun on the "a"? Still, despite these nagging questions, I was mostly on board with this theme—with one major exception. My only absolute "nope!" moment of the solve. These puns all work very, very well, if you just read them straight. CODA SILENCE: if I say that out loud, as written, you are definitely going to hear "code of silence." STANZA CHANCE also hits its mark ("stands a chance"). ARIA KIDDING? and SONATA THING require slight shifts in emphasis (hitting the "SO" and not the "NAT" in the first case, the changing of the interrogative into the indicative mood in the second case), but close enough for crosswords, for sure. 


But then there's FORZA. And that word does not sound like "for the." It sounds like ... well, see "Word of the Day," above. "FORT-sah." It's an Italian word that retains its Italian pronunciation in common usage by English speakers. I don't speak Italian and I'm not a musician and still I think of that term as being pronounced "FORT-sah." Pronunciation-based themes are always dicey—people love to argue about slight regional differences. And I'm aware, from a bit of looking around online, that some English speakers say "FOR-za," which, if you imagine that the line is spoken by someone with a German accent, you can imagine sounds like "for the," but for me the reality of that voiced "t" sound in "forza" really messes things up. If pronouncing "forza" the correct Italian way is not in fact standard practice or is considered "pretentious" or whatever, I'm sure you'll let me know. Anyway, I still admire the theme. I just think the execution is a bit ragged.


I really thought the SONATA thing was a pun on "it's not a thing," as in (?) "it's no big deal," or maybe as in "it does not actually exist," so I was happy (ish) to realize (later) that the pun was on the (fairly contemporary) colloquial phrase "that is SO not a thing" (a version of "that does not actually exist," but in this version, the "SO" is a word that is there for emphasis, and the "O" doesn't have to be elided into "s'not a thing," which is what I was doing at first). 


I had real trouble getting started, as I had ADO for DIN (24A: Commotion), and even after I fixed that, I couldn't come up with either ARCADE or ADD-ONS, even after I had several crosses. I forgive myself for ADD-ONS—that clue is super-ambiguous (3D: Enhancing accessories); I thought the "accessories" were fashion accessories—but I do not forgive myself for ARCADE. Should've remembered that non-video-game meaning of ARCADE (1D: Covered passageway). There's an ARCADE in Ann Arbor that I used to go through all the time, right there near the far NW corner of the Diag, you know, runs parallel to Liberty, from State to ... whatever the next street over is ... there used to be a travel agent in there when I was in grad school, though I can't remember what's in there now. Annnnnnnyway, Go Blue.


Other slow spots were annoyingly slow because of ambiguity. Never fun to have to just sit and wait for a [NOTE] + [MAJOR or MINOR] answer to fill itself in from crosses (65A: Key of Brahms's Symphony No. 4). And [Half of a darting motion]? Which half? I don't know! (Funny that IDK ("I don't know") was the cross there). I misread the TARO clue (57A: Popular flavor of bubble tea)—thought it was asking for a brand, not a flavor (why? the word "flavor" is right in the clue!) so I took one look at TA-O and wrote in TAZO (an actual tea brand, though not a bubble tea brand, if such a thing exists). 

[TAZO]

[TARO]


Bullets:
  • 1A: "I'm afraid not," quaintly ("ALAS, NO") — ugh, quaintness. This answer was another reason that NW corner played slightly slow for me. For more off-putting quaintness, see "I DIG" (56A: "Groovy, man") ("I DIG" and "Groovy, man" are from completely different decades and cultural universes, btw)
  • 26A: Knuckled rub to the scalp (NOOGIE) — such a weird way to phrase it? "Knuckled," with a "d"?? You can drop that "d" entirely and the clue still makes sense. More sense, maybe. "How would you like your rub?" "Hmmm, let's see ... do you offer knuckled rubs?" "No, I'm sorry, just pickled rubs, smoked rubs, or pan-seared rubs." "Hmmm ... I think I'll just have the crème brûlée." 
  • 62A: Respond, as a pupil might (DILATE) — I think this was supposed to trick you into thinking the student kind of "pupil," but that only occurred to me after the fact. I had enough letters in place to see DILATE pretty quickly.
  • 36D: Underground scurrier (SEWER RAT) — an original answer, but ... it's hard to say I'm "happy" to find a SEWER RAT scurrying around my puzzle (or anywhere). You get a revulsion twofer here: sewers and rats! 
  • 56D: Savory South Asian rice cake (IDLI) — bah! My Indian food lexicon failed me today. I've def seen IDLI before, but it just wasn't there for me today. Maybe the SEWER RAT got to it, IDK.
That's all for today. See you next time.

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104 comments:

Conrad 6:08 AM  


Easy. Cute puns, would have made a good Tuesday puzzle.
* * * _ _

Overwrites:
My 24A commotion was an ado before it was a DIN
For keenly interested at 20A I had Agog before AVID
At 38D misspelled ARISTIDE as ARISTeDE

WOEs:
Rice cake IDLI at 56D

Bob Mills 6:08 AM  

I suspect people will either love this puzzle, or hate it. I love puns, and STANZACHANCE was wonderful with the clue. I also liked CODASILENCE. The other puns were a bit forced, but valid. I'd give it 3-1/2 stars.
Needed one cheat, to change John Astin to SEAN. I had "bazaar" crossing "ado" in the same area before realizing this might be the first time that a three-letter word for "commotion" was something other than "ado."

Rick Sacra 6:39 AM  

I'm down for the puns! 16 wide grid again, two days in a row.... 17:41 for me, so medium challenging for Wednesday, but again the wide grid pads the time a bit. @REX ado before DIN.... I think calling TARO a flavor is funny because I think of TARO as being pretty bland.... Looks like 18 three-letter entries. That makes for a pretty choppy grid. But the longer downs were pretty awesome, including some PARABOLic TOPKNOTS and some SOFTIE SEWER RATs! Thanks, Philippe, for this fun puzzle!!!

Son Volt 7:10 AM  

What’s not to like - handsome 16 wide grid and a quadratic. Classical music mash-up is a bit cheesy in places but works overall - FORZA MOMENT got a chuckle. Appreciate the lack of a revealer.

LUNA

Well filled for a midweek puzzle. LEONID, NAVIGATE, TRINITY, SEWER RAT all top notch. Love the math slant. Thought there was a u in NOOGIE. No surprises and slick to work.

A Fine LASS You Are

Enjoyable Wednesday morning solve.

Scruffy the Cat

Anonymous 7:11 AM  

I like puns. I completed the puzzle. Yet , there was a meh factor here. A half hearted 🎈🎈🎊🎊

kitshef 7:11 AM  

ICANt think of a single thing I liked about today’s puzzle. On to tomorrow.

Anonymous 7:28 AM  

Oh, man ! I bought tix at that travel agent too!! And bow ties at van Boven’s just to the left of the arcade entrance on State! Old times!

Lewis 7:52 AM  

I started smiling after uncovering one theme answer, and the smile grew with each new one. The wordplay, the elegant clues – a playground in the box today.

A puzzle with moxie, and a debut yet. More, more please, Phillipe! Encore!

I liked the trio of musical helpers in the grid: OLEOLE, E MINOR, JAGGER. I liked a trio of non-musical answers as well: NOOGIE, PARABOLA, TOP KNOT.

My brain liked that the theme answers needed crosses to fill in, followed by a CODA SILENCE and an aha-laden FORZA MOMENT.

I, a wordplay lover, happy-danced away from this one, and my ear worm for the day is the feeling of a smile.

Congratulations, Phillipe, on your first Times puzzle, and thank you for a splendid outing!

Lewis 7:53 AM  

ATONALSUCCESS [What one achieves when playing a piece without a wrong note]
BAGATELLECASTER [Score a classic guitar]
BAROQUETHERECORD [Dropped a Vivaldi LP]
ÉTUDEDONTMAKEITBAD [Beatles’ first line in a classical music lyric]
MADRIGALMOMENT [Sublime juncture at a Ren Faire]
SCHERZOMANY [What Haydn’s Surprise Symphony did]
STACCATOLOT [What an out-of-tune note did]
TENORMORE [How many keys apart a large hand can play on the piano]
TUTTIINSTRUMENT [Piccolo, for one]

hankster65 7:55 AM  

Must every day now be a Thursday?

JonB3 8:04 AM  

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

SouthsideJohnny 8:07 AM  

I found the theme difficult to discern and agree with OFL that a reveal would have been a big help. I rarely enjoy themes that on first pass seem to result in gibberish or incoherence until either the light bulb goes off or you stumble into a reveal - neither of which occurred for me today.

The northwest also left a bit of a bad taste with that pesky LEONID included up there. I don’t know if LEONID is a generic term for some sort of flying rock, or if it’s a specific hunk of mineral and gas named (perhaps) after the person who discovered it. I guess I should look that one up.

On a positive note, we still had a NOOGIE and a SEWER RAT.

Anonymous 8:10 AM  

Rex, I need to talk to you for a moment... because I parsed FORZAMOMENT as "for a moment". Not sure if that makes it sound closer or farther.

Niallhost 8:21 AM  

Got hung up briefly in the SW because I put in boba for the tea, and then scratched that for SOLOisT for the one-man band only to get stuck because there is not flavor that starts with TiR. A minute or two extra time there.

Looked at ARIA KIDDING every which way and still don't get it.

The music thing was not on my wavelength at all, so used crosses to finish for the most part. Harder than usual Wednesday for me. 12:00

RooMonster 8:30 AM  

Hey All !
Interesting puz. Kinda digging the mispronunciation/eliding thingie happening. I said FORZA as for-za, so that one worked for me.
But ARIA is a stretch. Is it not are-e-uh? Not are-ya. If it was are-ya, then no problem. But are-e-uh KIDDING doesn't hit the sound correctly.

Got a tougher clue for OCEANS.
There are 11 of them?
Maybe SatPuz worthy.

Speaking of pronunciation, the artist Seurat looks like it could be said as SEWER RAT.

SE tough spot. IDLI a WOE, ARISTIDE not a name on the tip of the brain, with an _MINOR and the aforementioned ARIA missed sound.

Got through it good. I DIG it.

Have a great Wednesday!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Todd 8:35 AM  

I really disliked this one. I found all the theme answers very forced. Ildi was new to me.

Rex Parker 8:50 AM  

lol I think I bought my first suit at Van boven

tht 8:55 AM  

Definitely Easy for me: more like a Tuesday time (whereas Tuesday's was more like a Monday time). I liked it okay, although I do agree with Rex about FORZAMOMENT. (Phonetically, it might have worked better if the entry were "forza nature", but even that is not ideal.)

IDK about IDLI. That was certainly new to me. "ARIA KIDDING me?" might be the reaction many will have to that.

Yay conic sections! (PARABOLA). [Warning: math mini-lecture ahead.] Depending on how you slice a cone with a plane, you can get either an ellipse (with a circle being considered a special case), or a parabola, or a hyperbola. For example, the shadow on your wall cast by a lampshade will outline (part of) a hyperbola. (In effect, the wall acts as a plane that "slices" the cone of light coming out the top.) But now if you slowly begin tilting the lamp, aiming it more and more toward the wall, the shadow-outlines pass through a continuum of curves, taking you from hyperbolas to ellipses, and a PARABOLA is what you'll get right at the sweet spot in between the hyperbolas and ellipses. [End of lecture]

So, we had a little math theme going on today (RADIAN is the other).

A knuckled RUB OFF is what George CoSTANZA attempted to do in "The Move" (actual title: "Fusilli Jerry"). Needless to say, it didn't work.

Have a good one!

Anonymous 8:57 AM  

Semi Naticked at the ARISTIDE EMINOR cross. “A Minor” made just as much sense to me and as a young solver wasn’t reading headlines in the 90s nor taught about the 90s in school, “Aristida” still looked right.

egsforbreakfast 9:03 AM  

Pretentious way for AGENT to decline a frozen desert: ALASNO, I shan't have a Cone ALASNO.

I saw that movie about a girl and her dog in OZONE time. Please help me remember the name.

I love me some puns. Thanks and congrats, Philippe Monfiston.

Anonymous 9:04 AM  

Not so enjoyable today. Anyhow, I did see the wonderful Isley Bros. do "Shout" in the 1960's at the Coral Reef in Long Beach. Brought me back!!!

Iydianblues 9:19 AM  

This is one of those things that brings out the mathematicians…. Strictly, “radian” is not a unit, it is a ration of two lengths, so is dimensionless. “Radian measure” refers to a method for computing the size of an angle. This is why I can’t find a girlfriend,,,,

Anonymous 9:23 AM  

Fun puzzle. The reference to Nickel's Arcade in A2 made me smile. I bought a corduroy sport jacket there as an undergrad 40 years ago. Go Blue.

Yat 9:23 AM  

I’m pretty astronomy-averse, but I’ve come to accept LEONID as crosswordese any time meteors are mentioned.
On the other hand, I adore math, so PARABOLA was the high point of the puzzle for me.

Anonymous 9:23 AM  

I thought that "What's Opera, doc?" was an unheralded revealer since the jokey title of that classic cartoon, paired with its answer, sort of describe the gimmick and theme. At least that was my reaction.

Gary Jugert 9:24 AM  

Me temo que no.

THIS is the droid I've been looking for. Super cute. Super fun. Super bumpy and weird. Puns that'll cause some harumphosauruses to wither, and a homophonic mine field waiting for those with accents to say, "Oy matey, that's not how we pronounce it 'round these parts." I loved this and it took lots of hunting and pecking around the edges before the theme phrases started filling themselves. Being about music was another bonus.

I've reread the theme answers multiple times and laughed every time. Just brilliant. I'm particularly enchanted by SONATA THING and ARIA KIDDING.

Call Miss Piggy a SOW to her face. I dare you.

Love seeing ANON in any puzzle as I'm reminded of our Weekend Anonymous Troll Army (the WATA). They show up to scold us. Friday is almost here.

That clue for PARABOLA is hee-lar-ee-us squared.

❤️ NOOGIE.

😩 IDLI.

People: 6
Places: 4
Products: 6
Partials: 9
Foreignisms: 2
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 27 of 79 (34%)

Funny Factor: 7 😂

Tee-Hee: ORAL.

Uniclues:

1 Attempt to pay for the big stuffed animal with avocados at the behest of friends.
2 The reason I work as an undertaker is to get a pepperoni pie once in awhile.
3 One who sympathizes with the zombies.
4 He who speaks for those who can't.
5 When your buns unravel.

1 REDEEM GUAC DARE
2 FOR ZA MOMENT, I DIG
3 ARCADE SOFTIE
4 MIME LADS' AGENT (~)
5 TOP KNOTS DIM

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Business catering to those needing to dissolve dead guys. SOLVENT RACKET.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Adrienne 9:30 AM  

ARISTIDE crossing E MINOR was giving Natick vibes for me, even though I guessed right the first time, and I suppose it had to be E or A. Also I'm a lifelong choral singer and former French horn player, and FORZA dwells nowhere in my brain. SFORZAndo? Sure. But no FORZA.

Beezer 9:32 AM  

SJ, just remember that all the yearly meteor showers end in -ID(s). The names are from the constellation they seem to come from…(constellation LEO). This one threw me because the clue referred to ONE meteor from a shower. Two other big meteor showers are Geminids and Perseids. Hah! You’d think I’m an astronomer…

Whatsername 9:48 AM  

harumphosauruses 🤣🤣🤣

pabloinnh 9:51 AM  

Puns and music, what's not to like? I found this one very whooshy and gave myself back pats for remembering both the mathematical definitions for PARABOLA and RADIAN, neither of which I've thought of since high school math. Even remembered ARISITIDE off the A, although I started with ARISTADE, oops, and sort of hi to @Conrad. Quickly discarded EMAJOR as a possibility as a J as the last letter in a word seemed highly unlikely.

Agree with others that the weakest themer was ARIAKIDDING. I can't really make it sound like Are you kidding? either.

IDLI is such an unlikely combination of letters that I should remember it, but do I ? No.

Nice debut PM. Hope there are Plenty More where this one came from, and thanks for all the fun.

ScottR 9:57 AM  

I think 58A could have been clued with a GOT reference

Anonymous 9:58 AM  

Scold? What— you think I’m a school marm. I’ve never seen anyone scold yiou here. Call out your gratuitous insults? Absoluteky. But that’s not scolding, that’s fraternal correction. And calling your false allegations as, well , nonsense isn’r scolding either. That’s defending oneself against your ad homominem name-calling.

Doctor L 10:02 AM  

Oh, so much fun. Love paronomasia at all times. (Of course, I’m a dad!). Trivia for all generations (from ALAS NO to KATY Perry). I agree that ARISTIDE was a possible Natick but I wrote it in without crosses) and already had LEONID before much ado happened.

jb129 10:14 AM  

This was cute. I whooshed through it -now I have to look for my typo. The only thing that tripped me up was FORZA & IDLI. Congrats on your debut Philippe :)

Whatsername 10:23 AM  

Wait a MOMENT. Is this by CHANCE a crossword puzzle which centers around actual wordplay and not a list of names or pop culture trivia? Are you KIDDING? Who ever heard of such a THING? I’m stunned to SILENCE. Brilliant idea! Well done Philippe!

I’m no constructor or one of those people who can break down the technicalities of any puzzle, but this seemed very shy of anything you could call junk. I learned IDLI, LUNO, and that apparently in the Sumo world, man buns are called TOP KNOTS. Can’t say I’m a fan of the label attached to the elegant Miss Piggy, not sure what she did to deserve that. On the other hand, EMINOR looks like a good name for one of Eminem’s kids.

Szechuan Dumplings 10:24 AM  

This hit on every level for me, particularly given it's a Wednesday puzzle. So much more engaging and fun than usual for midweek.

Gary Jugert 10:25 AM  

@Lewis 7:53 AM
😮🤓👏🤘

Beezer 10:26 AM  

Rex did a very good write up today and count me in on having my hand up for liking the puzzle. Like @Rick Sacra the time was over my average for a Wednesday so played medium hard for me, which I liked. I was familiar with all the musical terms except for FORZA so I’m not sure that a theme revealer would’ve helped me figure out THAT, but once it was in I knew it had “that certain something” and was a musical terms.

I knew ARISTIDE but wasn’t sure how to SPELL it and Make BANK didn’t immediately come to mind, so I toyed with seT instead of BIT for the comedic riff.

I may be wrong but I scoured the puzzle and it looks like the only pop culture is KATY Perry? Ok. I guess SEAN Astin and Nintendo NES. But, I’m sure the low amount will delight many.

Nice debut Phillipe!

misterarthur 10:32 AM  

Re Ann Arbor: The Nickels Arcade. Between State & Maynard. Van Bovens is still there. And a great coffee shop: Comet Coffee.

misterarthur 10:33 AM  

The Arcade in Ann Arbor is the Nickels Arcade. It runs between State and Maynard. Van Bovens is still there. And a great coffee shop: Comet Coffee.

Anonymous 10:36 AM  

Are you a kidding? Big fail on this one answer. Not sure how either the constructor or editor can let this one stand. Otherwise I found the theme answers amusing and the puzzle smooth going.

Ed Rorie 10:42 AM  

Are you kidding?

Les S. More 10:45 AM  

I really liked this puzzle and I know very, very little about classical music. But the themers had that kind of nuttiness that appealed anyway. As I was reviewing my solve I found myself wondering, “Is this wacky enough for Rex?”And, right up front, he admits to ,liking the “wacky creative energy”.

I was going to dispute Rex’s take on FORZA. I don’t really speak Italian - just enough for vacation use - and I’ve always thought a single “z” was pronounced like the “z” in the English word zebra; so for-zah. Not so. After checking a handful of Italian pronunciation guides, I find I’m mistaken. It seems to be pronounced like the “ts” sound in tsunami. Che idiota sono.

Thanks for the well constructed bit of Wednesday fun, Philippe.

Gary Jugert 10:51 AM  

@Iydianblues 9:19 AM
🤣 It's not the knowing, it's the telling.

Bobbydacron 10:53 AM  

Loved, make that adored the puns. Couldn’t remember how to spell Aristide..and could’ve sworn it’s a NUGGIE and not, apparently, NOOGIE. And, I never thought of Miss Piggy being a SOW

Anonymous 10:53 AM  

fortzed

Anonymous 10:58 AM  

Didn’t know Miss Piggy had children, since that’s the definition of a sow. Otherwise, she’s a gilt.

Anonymous 10:58 AM  

Are ya kidding?

Daniel 10:59 AM  

Are ya kidding?

Pete M. 11:10 AM  

I didn't read SONATATHING as "So not a thing", but rather as "S'notta thing" (i.e., an elision of "it's not a thing").

RLSPINE 11:11 AM  

Not a fan at all. The puns were not weak. The only one that really works is STANZACHANCE. Other than that it’s… Code of Silence? So not a thing? For the moment? These are barely phrases, and the clues don’t really hit at the pun side of the answers so I don’t see how they are supposed to be satisfying. The ARISTIDE / EMINOR cross in the SE was tough. A tough proper noun paired with a random musical note. Yuck all around!

jae 11:12 AM  

On the easy side for me too.

No erasures and I did not know FORZA and IDLI.

Mildly amusing music puns work for me, liked it.

Cliff 11:15 AM  

I finally decided that it sounds out as "Are ya kidding"

Anonymous 11:20 AM  

SONATATHING didn’t follow the other clue’s rhythms or theme (modern slang instead of classic phrase). Weak.

Chip Hilton 11:32 AM  

No problems until ARIAKIDDING crossed both SANK and IDLI. Two large “Huh??”s at that point.

Anonymous 11:50 AM  

https://www.annarbor.org/listing/nickels-arcade/1108/

DeeJay 11:55 AM  

I'm sorry. OMISSION? Please tell me what I am missing...

jberg 12:30 PM  

My thoughts exactly, re FORZA. Never seen it, but Rex found it in a musical dictionary, so I guess it's acceptable.

Sailor 12:31 PM  

"The radian, denoted by the symbol rad, is the unit of angle in the International System of Units and is the standard unit of angular measure used in many areas of mathematics." (This is from Wikipedia, but many other sources will tell you the same.)

jberg 12:33 PM  

I follow your reasoning, but have to point out that there is a terminal J right there in that corner, 46-A.

Anonymous 12:35 PM  

There was a "fireball" meteor over the mid Atlantic yesterday afternoon, cleary visible on a bright sunny day. Typically meteors are pea sized, this one was reported to have been the size of a basketball before burning up in the atmosphere. Did I see it? ALAS, NO. Quaintly???

Sailor 12:40 PM  

Call me lowbrow, but I loved this! Laughed out loud when CODA SILENCE emerged, and still think it's the best of the bunch. I agree with Rex that FORZA MOMENT doesn't quite work, but 4 out of 5 ain't bad. And the fill is better than the typical Wednesday, too. This would have been a good puzzle any day, but it's a terrific NYT debut puzzle.

Masked and Anonymous 12:43 PM  

Pretty clever puztheme, altho that FORZA moment was a NO-KNOW moment, at our house.
16x15 puzgrid -- more for our moneybucks.
Not as clear to m&e as it was to @RP, on why this puztheme needed a revealer. But if U want one, maybe U could do somethin with that finale EMINOR's clue?

staff weeject pick: IDK. cuz I don't know what that is. har

some fave stuff: The Jaws of Themedness. NOOGIE. LEONID meteors. PARABOLA [from my math-teachin days].
... oh, yeah -- and I tawt I taw a SEWERRAT.

Thanx for the musicacomedy, Mr. Monfiston dude. And congratz on a sound debut.

Masked & Anonymous1U [s]

p.s.
runt puzzle:
**gruntz**

M&A

Georgia 12:46 PM  

Oversight, as in "it was an oversight that you omitted" something.

jberg 12:48 PM  

I had an early morning appointment with our car repair shop, so I started the puzzle there, but when I was halfway through they let me know that the repairs needed were not MINOR, and offered me a loaner--so I came home and finished here. I think the NYT timer goes on 'pause," but my elapsed time was something like 4 hours!

Despite all that, I liked the puzzle and loved the musical puns, although FORZA was not a term I'd known.

I'd have said that IDLI was not a term I'd know either, but apparently I did-I got it from the initial I. But I didn't know what it meant until I read the clue.

Somehow I misread the clue for 65-A as referring to Beethoven rather than Brahms, and I was pretty sure the Beethoven 4th was in a major key. That could have been trouble, but RADIAN saved me.

Pretty astronomical puzzle with the three satellites in clues.

Anonymous 12:53 PM  

“I omitted your name from the list - sorry for the omission - it was an oversight”

pabloinnh 12:55 PM  

Ture enough, and it's the only word with a terminal J that I can think of, except for propers like Taj Mahal and Ms. Minaj.

dgd 1:06 PM  

Chip Hilton
That’s BANK btw

Anonymous 1:17 PM  

Extremely difficult for a Wednesday. LEONID, obscure (to me) use of ARCADE, ARISTIDE, KLEE, SEAN Astin, and the musical puns which strike me as niche. I still finished without cheats but it was an unenjoyable slog and I had to get lucky with some guesses.

SharonAK 1:32 PM  

Got laugh out of the end of Res's write up. Needed it. I sort of enjoyed th puns except for forza which was totally unfamiliar to me.
I found this puzzle incredibly hard for a Wednesday. Not much fun.

dgd 1:36 PM  

Rex implied that I DIG was strictly beatnik.
btw not so.
It arose among Black American jazz musicians in the’30’s Then on to beatniks in the’50’s.
But it remained popular slang through the sixties and into the seventies. If to asked me in 1970 I would have assumed it was Boomer slang.
Slang can be very tricky.
Like Rex I pronounce FORZA closer to the Italian way. So I didn’t think of for zuh moment. Also I didn’t see are ya. But I agree. Close enough for crosswords. The theme made thingsa bit harder. So maybe closer to medium for me
Fortunately,after a few cross letters I got ARISTIDE.Definitely obscure for younger solvers. But it is a French name (Haitian in the clue) so E is much more likely than A. So E is an inferable letter as Rex likes to call it

gjp 1:41 PM  

brilliant puzzle all the theme answers are really NYC 'speak' with classical musical references and a debut to boot - 5 stars!

Hungry Mother 1:45 PM  

Very ez today.

Beezer 1:51 PM  

Haha! This made me look at definitions. All I know is that there seems to be no provision for the possibility of an adult female virgin pig.

Anonymous 1:54 PM  

Easy peasy, as long as you google. But then you haven’t solved the puzzle.

okanaganer 1:57 PM  

I like the theme idea, but two of them really clunked for me. 18, 36, and 58 were great. FORZAMOMENT took a bit of thought and wasn't quite on the money. And then SONATATHING... I just didn't get it at all. I guess I haven't heard "so not a thing" very often.

Lots of fun non theme answers though. Science: PARABOLA, LEONID, RAIDAN, OCEANS. One non-fun answer: ARISTIDE... been a while since I've seen that name. Typeover: "Apartment planter sites" = PATIOS before LEDGES.

IDLI is kinda brutal for a Wednesday.

Sailor 2:04 PM  

@Cliff, that's what I thought too. Works for me!

Anonymous 2:15 PM  

Rex did no such thing

Teedmn 2:38 PM  

IDLI is completely new to me. I have two Indian cuisine cookbooks and nowhere is IDLI mentioned. I'll have to look for it at restaurants.

FORZA - I was expecting it to turn into FORte but it never did. Instead it remained an unknown to me - I haven't run into it in my music books.

I thought this puzzle's theme was clever and interesting. Thanks, Philippe Monfiston!

Beezer 3:12 PM  

@dgd valid point on IDIG starting before “beatniks.” As someone squarely in high school from ‘69-‘73 I will say that if anyone said I DIG it was kind of in a joking eyeroll manner…similar to someone saying an exaggerated “yeah, groovy man” because no one seriously said groovy, unless you heard it in a song or…The Monkees and The Brady Bunch.

Anonymous 3:29 PM  

The main flavor for boba tea are tapioca pearls, so comparatively taro are richly flavored? Rex it's the Nickels arcade connecting State to Maynard. Best current occupant.is Bon Bon Bon, wonderful local chocolates. As a math nerd I loved the clue for parabola, and radians!

ChrisS 3:36 PM  

A radian is a unit of angular measure equal to the angle subtended at the center of a circle by an arc whose length is equal to the radius of the circle. It is a natural, dimensionless unit often used in mathematics and physics

tht 3:38 PM  

I thought it succeeded. If you pronounce ARIA quickly enough to make the three syllables meld into two, like aria --> arya --> are ya, then I think it works quite well.

Anonymous 3:53 PM  

Loved the hidden picture poster called “Gossip” in Nickels Arcade!

Anonymous 3:53 PM  

Rex never said “beatnik.”

tht 3:59 PM  

I take your point, but it sounds like you're referring more to how the word "unit" is used in physics. In the language that I speak (as a mathematician), it's perfectly okay to refer to a radian or a degree as a unit of angular measurement.

Beezer 4:05 PM  

Welp…@jberg…you are going to have the “faster than your average time” message on Wednesday for a while now! Been there, done that. For me…Sunday is still messed up due to stepping away and THINKING the timer would “time out.”

Beezer 4:08 PM  

Are youz from Chicago? Sorry. I couldn’t resist…and please…other folks…it’s a thing!

Anonymous 4:25 PM  

STACCATOLOT = priceless!

EasyEd 4:30 PM  

Late to the party today because I had two softball games between the puzzle and the blog. Anyway, hand up for struggling with ADO for a while, and guessing EMINOR because not too many English words end in a J. Loved the comical puns but eventually needed all the crosses because FORZA is beyond my musical vocabulary. ARISTIDE came from long forgotten NYT news columns and IDLI Ed fallout from crosses.

tht 4:32 PM  

@Beezer I seem to remember hearing Simon and Garfunkel in concert singing the 59th Street Bridge Song, where one or both of them couldn't suppress a light chuckle before the lyric "feeling groovy".

(Although reading over the lyrics now, I am all of a sudden struck by the beauty of the line "Let the morningtime drop all its petals on me". Wonderful.)

Anonymous 5:25 PM  

Of course he did , by sayingbthe thrases were decades snd culturally apart

pabloinnh 5:31 PM  

All this FORZA discussion reminds me that the first thing it made me think of was La FORZA del Destino, which is a title I knew but not much else. It's a Verdi opera and based on a Spanish work call La fuerza del sino, which I was also vaguely familiar with. FORZA and fuerza both mean "force" in these titles, so I did know FORZA from somewhere although not in the musical sense in which it appears in the puzzle. That's all from here, may the FORZA be with you.

Anonymous 5:39 PM  

I usually love puns, but thought some of these were a stretch.

DAVinHOP 8:27 PM  

(Hand raised) Loved it! Smaller scale than Sunday, but wacky puns bring me joy in a puzzle. Even one with this many (18) three-letter words.

John (tv's Gomez Addams) before Sean Astin showing your age? (Hand raised) Me too! My wife entered SEAN; I looked at her quizzically before saying "oh, yeah".

DAVinHOP 8:32 PM  

ARIA KIDDING?

Not only was that clue/answer tremendous, it got Rex to include a classic Elmer/Bugs/Wagner bit.

DAVinHOP 8:37 PM  

Yikes; was your "math mini-lesson" PSAT-prep? 😂

tht 9:35 PM  

LOL! ALAS, NO, it wouldn't do any good as prep for the poor kids. But don't worry: there won't be any test for you grown-ups. I figure for those people willing to follow the words and summon images as they read, it might give counterbalance to the dry-looking algebra of the clue, in a semi-relaxed setting. :-)

CDilly52 11:36 PM  

Hand up for puns, and this debut (congrats Philippe Monfiston!) has great bones but as @Rex mentioned, was a tad rough around the edges, especially the theme clues and answers. STANZA CHANCE is excellent. I suspect it was the germ of the theme. But, that clue was one of the weaker ones. Probably would have been better as a poetry clue. If the constructor was thinking of someone in a choir getting the opportunity for a solo, it just didn’t stick the landing. “Help creating a poem” maybe?

The SW corner was a bit of a guess fest since I was unfamiliar with the OLEOLE song and the theme clue made no sense to me, even in the musical context.

I started off loving the theme with CODA SILENCE; for me that’s the marquee themer. It is nothing short of brilliant. Audience clapping for a piece before the conductor drops the baton, is a concert faux pas deluxe. If the conductor’s arms are up and back turned to the audience, the piece isn’t over. Maybe has a cod, maybe not.

Lots to enjoy about this entertaining debut. I love that it’s from a recipient of the Diverse Crossword Fellowship program. But again, I believe the NYT could have continued to assist Mr. Monfiston with some polishing suggestions. So, one more time with my own chant, “Where are the editors?” It’s unkind and lazy not to see some very obvious rough edges - especially on a debut - and fail to offer help.

Fabulous concept, loved the musical theme, and I am very excited to see more from Philippe. And once again, I’m way over my eye usage time. Hope to “see” y’all tomorrow.

Kat 12:35 AM  

Ohhhh... Now that makes sense. Thank you. I was having as much trouble figuring out why one would say "are I a-kidding." I had the same problem with Coda, which I stared at for way too long wondering how one could possibly read it as "total silence" until I read Rex's explanation above. Forza I had as Forte for too long before fixing with the crosses, but a'i still had the same willies about the pronunciation.

Anonymous 1:26 AM  

Might be my slowest Wednesday ever. Straight challenging for me.

Anonymous 6:25 AM  

Rex explained that it was a pun on “are you kidding?” It’s helpful to actually read the writeup sometimes

Iydianblues 8:49 AM  

Hmm, so something dimensionless can nevertheless be considered a “unit”! This emphasizes the girlfriend problem thing…. pedantic and wrong. ChatGPT does say, “not a dimensionful unit but a conventional label on a pure number”.

Rachel 9:11 AM  

I love the look of the banana split splitting in the grid, even if it's inconsistent with the first themer.
I hate GOIPO and BACHIT. I was able to infer both, but haven't actually heard anyone say either. If I heard "BACHIT" I'd just think the person was saying "bat-shit," like "bat-shit crazy."

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