Main antagonist of HBO's "Euphoria" / SUN 10-19-25 / Pop culture hit about dystopian technology / Immune cell variation / Injection associated with a certain toxin / Features of the names of many Apple products / Artist's feedback session, informally / Oppressive political regime, so to speak, with "the" / Genre for Keith Haring / Interrupter of dreams, maybe

Sunday, October 19, 2025

Constructor: Daniel Grinberg

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: "Same Difference" — clues for the theme answers work whether you include the circled letter or "DROP IT" (which is the phrase spelled out by the circled letters) (circled letters represented below by red letters):

Theme answers:
  • COMPANY CARD / SKID (26A: Business traveler's convenience / 9D: Go downhill fast, say)
  • COUNTRIES / BURSTS (28A: Divisions on a map / 22D: Ruptures)
  • "MR. ROBOTO" / GASOLINE (65A: Pop culture hit about dystopian technology / 49D: Fuel source
  • PLAYOFFS / TOP SPEED (69A: Eliminators of some teams / 44D: Competitive athlete's goal, perhaps)
  • ANTIVENOM / "NO TIME!" (109A: Injection associated with a certain toxin / 90D: "Sorry, I'm unavailable!")
  • TRAIN DELAYS / TRIM (112A: Annoyances for ticket holders / 112D: Decorative auto upgrade)
Word of the Day: MR. ROBOT (65A) —
Mr. Robot
 is an American drama thriller television series created by Sam Esmail for USA Network. It stars Rami Malek as Elliot Alderson, a cybersecurity engineer and hacker with social anxiety disorderclinical depression, and dissociative identity disorder. Elliot is recruited by an insurrectionary anarchist known as "Mr. Robot", played by Christian Slater, to join a group of hacktivists called "fsociety". The group aims to destroy all debt records by encrypting the financial data of E Corp, the largest conglomerate in the world. [...] Mr. Robot received critical acclaim, particularly for the performances of Malek and Slater, its story and visual presentation and Mac Quayle's musical score. The series has gained a cult following. Esmail has received praise for his direction of the series, having directed three episodes in the first season before serving as the sole director for the remainder of the show. The show received numerous accolades, including two Golden Globe Awards, three Primetime Emmy Awards, and a Peabody Award. (wikipedia)
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So ... it's weird. One of the things that is probably impressive from an architectural standpoint—namely that the circled squares are, like the grid as a whole, rotationally symmetrical—is also a thing that I don't care about in the slightest and don't think is necessary in a theme like this. Is it pretty? I guess. It's certainly neat. And it probably added a significant layer of difficulty to the construction process. But yeah, I don't care. I do care about symmetry in general, and in theme answers, as a rule, but special squares? No. Rebus squares, circled squares, special squares of any kind ... you can just go ahead and put them wherever; whatever placement allows you to make the most entertaining puzzle, that's where you should put them. I'm not faulting the puzzle for its circle symmetry. That would be weird. I'm impressed that there were twelve answers you could do this kind of cluing gimmick with at all, let alone that you could also a. get all the pairs to cross at the appropriate letter, and b. get those letters to spell anything, let alone a theme-appropriate message. How many "let alone"s are you allowed in one sentence? Who cares? I like this theme. I'm just saying, for me, the circle symmetry is totally unnecessary. Has nothing to do with my solving pleasure. I'm not even sure I think it makes it more elegant. There's almost something ... oddly boring about the perfect alignment of those circles. I just hate to think of a constructor spending a lot of time on an element that is really unnecessary. But it worked, so woo hoo, good job, everyone.


Some of these with-or-without answers are a little ... inventive, let's say ... but I think they're all at least defensible, and mostly they're uncannily good. The winning pair of the day, for me, by far, is MR. ROBOT / MR. ROBOTO. That was the point where I actually got the theme. Before that, I had COMPANY CAR and SKI and I just left the circle blank. Then I did the same for MR. ROBOT, but that little circled square at the end basically looks like an "O," so I thought "huh, looks like "MR. ROBOTO" and then immediately: "Heyyyyyyyyy wait a minute." The puzzle title is "Same Difference," so ... whether you include or ignore the circled square ... same difference! Clue works for both. Very nice.


I think the splashiest answer of the day is one of the tiniest—largest by total volume of answer, but among the smallest by actual real-life size. It's LOWERCASE "I"S (35D: Features of the names of many Apple products). I was lucky enough to have the ending in place before I ever looked at the clue, so I knew something weird was going on with the parsing. What the hell kind of (long) English plural is going to end "-EIS"? Everything I had above "-EIS" was patchy but I pieced it together pretty quickly. Such a long answer to get such a tiny phenomenon ("i"). I enjoyed decoding that answer. I don't see any places where I struggled more than a little. It took every cross for me to accept CRIT as an answer, but that doesn't mean it was "hard," just that I have never heard of that and it somehow looks and sounds bad to me (76D: Artist's feedback session, informally). What artist? Who is giving the "feedback?" Couldn't you just say [Feedback, informally], or is CRIT ([grimace]) really an artist-specific thing. CRIT is one of the few ugly words that has actually become more prevalent in the Shortz Era. Today's is the third of the year (which makes it the second-CRITtiest year ever after 2019 (5)):

[CRIT frequency over time]

Almost every other time it has appeared in the Shortz Era, CRIT has been clued as [Lit ___], short for "literary criticism." This is the just second "artist's feedback session"-related clue. I probably complained about it the first time, let's see ... nope, I didn't even do that write-up, and Clare (who did do that write-up) found it completely unremarkable, which it probably is, nevermind.


I know nothing about Euphoria except that it exists, so LOL at the idea I would know the name of its "Main antagonist" (16D: Main antagonist of HBO's "Euphoria"). NATE filled itself real easy from crosses, though, so I'm not mad. If you're going to indulge in that kind of pop culture deep cut, just make sure the crosses are very gettable, and we're good, no harm done. I also could not have told you what SEROTYPE was, but I have definitely seen (or heard) the word SEROTYPE before, so again, my ignorance didn't exactly make things hard for me (84D: Immune cell variation). Fair crosses, familiar-sounding word, no problem. Not seeing any significant toughness anywhere in this grid. Further, nothing really stands out as off or awful. Not sure how I feel about BOOKII (30A: Second volume). I actually kind of like the way it looks (like a discarded Star Wars race), but something about the Roman numerals is weird to me. PARTII I can somehow accept more easily than BOOKII (probably because I have had to accept it—11 times in the Shortz Era, vs. one solitary appearance for BOOKII (this, its debut)). Because I know you're dying to know, yes, there has been a BOOKI, once, but there has never been a BOOKIII or BOOKIV or BOOKV or BOOKVI ... I'm gonna stop there, but let's assume that it continues that way ad infinitum.


Bullets:
  • 29A:  Brian ___, songwriter who popularized the term "generative music" (ENO) — if. you say that someone "popularized" a term, I'm going to (naively?) assume that that term is actually "popular." And yet I've never heard the term "generative music" in my life. I associate ENO most readily with AMBIENT music. Acc. to wikipedia, "Generative music is a term popularized by Brian Eno to describe music that is ever-different and changing, and that is created by a system." Speaking of SYSTEM ...
  • 45A: Oppressive political regime, so to speak, with "the" (SYSTEM) — congrats to the millions of people who turned out yesterday in cities all over the country to tell the current "oppressive political regime" exactly what they think of it. So much solidarity and joy in the streets (instead of divisiveness and misery behind phones and keyboards). Everyone seemed to be having a blast. Super-patriotic stuff, tbh. I was sick on the couch, but my wife (Penelope) went to the No Kings rally downtown, where somehow ~4,000 people showed up (huge numbers for this little city). The "Star Spangled Banner" hits different when you're protesting tyranny, and and you're singing with so many other people, and you get to that "land of the free" part. Penelope confessed to tearing up a little. And why not? So the vibes seemed great. Here's some photo evidence of the vibes:
[Binghamton, NY, Sat. 10/18/25]
  • 46A: Have an ominous presence (LOOM LARGE) — ooh, forgot about this answer, which is wonderful. Hey, is "ominous" related to OMENS (122A: Warning signs)? Seems like it is, hang on. Yes, etymologically related for sure. "[Ominous] ultimately comes from the Latin word omen, which is both an ancestor and a synonym of our omen." (merriam webster dot com). Probably better to use some word besides "ominous" when you've already got OMENS in the grid.
  • 120A: Nickname for Rachel (RAE) — I've heard "Rach" (so, "Rachel" with the "el" removed but the "ch" very much pronounced), and that's the only nickname for Rachel I've heard. But then I'm admittedly deep under the influence of Friends here, so maybe there are Rachels out there who go by RAE, I don't know. If so, I haven't met them. Is this a better way to clue RAE than via Charlotte or Issa or the arctic explorer John? It's not worse, I suppose.
Enjoy the rest of your day. See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

P.S. a reminder that today's constructor has a crossword construction podcast called Crosstalk and it's good and you should listen to it.  

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93 comments:

Conrad 6:09 AM  


Easy, which I really needed because I was really beat. The happy music came as a relief because it meant I could go to bed. I solved it as a themeless; I didn't get the theme until my post-solve review this morning.

One overwrite, NArc before NATE for the 16D Euphoria antagonist. I had watched a couple of episodes and knew it was about drugs.

WOEs:
I didn't know FLO Milli (77A), but it didn't matter: I had it filled in via crosses before I read the clue.
Got SEROTYPE (84D) from crosses
SORORAL (95A) is an odd word but easily inferred
Needed crosses for the Iowa radio station WHO (115D). Since Iowa is west of the Mississippi, I assumed a radio station there would begin with "k".

Is it odd to have COME OUT (28D) crossing CLOSET (43A) without a cross-reference?

Rick Sacra 6:10 AM  

18 minutes for me, easiest sunday for me in MONTHS. but yes, what a terrific and fun theme! At the beginning I thought "You get this big grid and you only give me 6 little circles to look at? But actually this had some serious theme density and lots of material. Thank you, Daniel, for an inventive and truly enjoyable Sunday solve! (though I did it last night)...

Bob Mills 6:24 AM  

Very easy Sunday, except for trying to figure out an obscure theme without a revealer. I finally decided to put a "D" at the end of COMPANYCAR and SKI, and next thing I knew the music sounded. Then Rex explained the "drop it" trick with the circled letters, and it made (some) sense.

Rick 6:33 AM  

Easy-ish, except for SW corner, which was brutal. DNF due to SKIs instead of SKID, since CARS worked as well as CARD

Colin 6:42 AM  

This was impressive, but I did not understand the theme until I actually finished the puzzle. So, it was essentially a themeless for me. But I enjoyed this a lot.

As a (ham) radioman, I was intrigued by the Iowan radio station WHO. Never heard of it. It's unusual for a station west of the Mississippi River to start with a "W" (just as it's unusual for stations east of the Mississippi River to start with a "K" but we have KYW in Philadelphia). Read about WHO on Wikipedia - it's over 100 years old! - and will have to see if we can pick this up at night here on the East Coast.

Anonymous 6:47 AM  

Gasoline is definitely a fuel not a fuel source!

Lewis 7:09 AM  

Oh, Daniel stoked my affinity for wordplay and word quirks with this theme, shot my thumbs up early on.

But then he went a leap forward, raised the bar. Had a vision for making the theme elegant, and worked a full month through 19 iterations to have those circled letters spell a revealer AND have them and the theme answers be symmetrical.

That lifted this already smart and impressive theme – an envelope-pushing Schroedinger variation that has never been done before – into magic.

Really? These theme answers are already hard enough to come by, and to have all twelve be of certain letter lengths is remarkable enough, but then to restrict the circled letters to specific squares and SPELL A REVEALER – I bow down.

This didn’t feel like showing off; it felt like Daniel wanted to create beauty, like he wanted this puzzle to be the absolute best it could be.

For me, Daniel, it not only showcased the science of puzzle building, but came off as art. Not just a “Wow! Look at that!”, but also yes, a thing of beauty. Thank you, sir, for this, which I will remember for a long time.

Lewis 7:11 AM  

Icing was the PuzzPair© of HAS A BALL and HIT IT, not to mention [Care to dance?”] for SHALL WE, which had me picturing Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr in “The King And I”.

Son Volt 7:21 AM  

Solved as a themeless - because you can - why wouldn’t you? Including this Schrödinger type of trick is not for the benefit of the ones filling in the grid.

The thrushes' bleeding battle with the WRENS disrupts my reverie again

Rex does a good job discussing the overall fill - it’s solid for the most part - it has to be to carry a Sunday-sized grid without a theme. Parsing the letter string of LOWER CASE IS is fun but it’s not exactly a splashy entry. Add TRAIN DELAYS, ANTIVENOM, DEPILATE etc and there’s a load of real estate in this big grid taken up by flat fill.

Loan Me A DIME

Liked LOVE BEAD, HANKY, POLKAS and POP ART. Learned SEROTYPE and who knew Palm Springs was a GAY MECCA?

MC5

Should be interesting to see if @Anoa Bob brings up his POCs today - I noticed them while filling in the grid. D FLATS and the JOADS x TUTS cross jumped out at me.

The great Burton Cummings

A large grid without a useful theme. I can understand the constructor wanting to show off his chops - I have no issue with that. But in the end - this was not an enjoyable Sunday morning solve.

Wire

Anonymous 7:29 AM  

Someone explain CANNIEST = anagram; am I just too tired or what?

Anonymous 7:31 AM  

“Canniest”’ is an ANAGRAM of “instance”

Anonymous 7:34 AM  

Thank you! I am hanging my head in shame....

Andrew Z. 7:49 AM  

In this case (art related), CRIT is short for critique, not criticism. Being an art teacher for 3 decades however, I have a never heard anyone shorten it to crit.

Anonymous 7:57 AM  

CRIT, short for critique, is pretty common parlance in the visual art community and refers to a class or session designed specifically to elicit feedback from instructors and peers. In art schools critiques are often built into the schedule for studio classes where, along with the informal feedback students get from their professors every class, a few times a semester students will share their work more formally and the entire class will engage in criticism and discussion.

Patrick T 7:59 AM  

Hope you’re feeling better today, fearless leader.

SouthsideJohnny 8:02 AM  

Fun puzzle. I had some atypical Sunday WHOOSHing going on - and then I hit the SW, where I basically had my hat handed to me. I suspected we were after SORORAL, but wasn’t at all confident with the spelling. No idea on OTO, and ANTIVENOM as clued didn’t register. I also whiffed on LANCET and I don’t have any clue where the GAY MECCAs are. So I was definitely humbled by that one small section, but fortunately I had a much easier time wandering around the rest of the grid.

I didn’t fully appreciate the theme until I read Rex’s explanation. Wow, that must take a lot of work to construct. It seems like a shame that so much time and effort is involved and it just sails right over my head.

RooMonster 8:35 AM  

Hey All !
What a awesome construction! We need @LMS to tell us just how much went into making this puz. Not only did Daniel need to find 12 long words/phrases that worked with or without the circled letter (which isn't easy), but he needed six sets to cross, and at a Specific letter! And have those circled letters be the Revealer by spelling out DROP IT. My goodness. Daniel put this puz to Ludicrous Speed!

Had a DNF today (well, two, technically). Had aTi in for OTO, giving me SERiTYPE and DRiVEAT for the Downs. Also had an S for the circled D in the NW Themer. Was going to complain that COMPANYCARs/SKIs was a total copout to get the needed/unneeded letter in. But the D is much, much better, and as it is, is needed for the Revealer.

Also had UtHERE in for UP HERE for a bit, and was also gonna bitch about that! Something like "U THERE? Really? Non-word!". Har, good stuff.

Working (slowly) on a BOOK II to my first book, Changing Times by Darrin Vail, which that BOOK (1) is available wherever you get your books online. Get one today! 😁

6D could've been clued as "Converse high tops". Love me some CHUCKS. I actually have a pair with Crossword Grids on them!

Hope y'all have a great Sunday!

Four F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Andy Freude 8:42 AM  

So my M.O. on Sundays is to move fast enough that I don’t get sick of a puzzle before it’s done. But moving fast increases the likelihood of typos, and hunting those down in such a large grid is definitely a buzzkill. The result is that Sunday is often the day I break a streak by hitting the “check grid” button, just to see where the typos are. Today it was LaNAPE. Grr.

Anonymous 8:46 AM  

SEROTYPE crossing SORORAL is pretty close to natick territory, and at least is absurd for a Sunday

burtonkd 8:53 AM  

I wanted Rex to tap his sign for BOOKII

I liked the almost dupe “flow out” for EFFUSE crossing the rapper FLO.

I didn’t get the circles until I came here, though the little voice in my head was on the right track.

And the award for first “domo arigato” reference goes to RP himself!


Anonymous 8:57 AM  

121A: Isn't "orally" (rather than "verbally") what is intended here?

Anonymous 9:07 AM  

Surprised by the number of people who did not get the theme; I liked it. Loved the clue for ANAGRAM and did not love LANAI because I can never remember all the different Hawaiian terms crossworders are expected to know.

egsforbreakfast 9:21 AM  

I'm reading a book wherein a giant weaving machine appears whenever anything bad is about to happen. In other words, large looms LOOMLARGE.

How IDEALISTS remind themselves of the ideas they're going to develop: IDEALISTS.

Perhaps a PuzzPair©️when Rachel gets a tan. RAE catches RAYS. I have to admit that I don't exactly know what qualifications two answers must have for PuzzPair©️, so please let me know, @Lewis if these don't qualify.

Is HITIT the purpose of a push-up bra?

Emergency repair for flamenco dancer's REDDRESS? REDTAPE

Subtle mini them with HAJIS going to the straight Mecca, while others go to the GAYMECCA.

Pretty cool theme and great execution. Thanks, Daniel Grinberg.

Anonymous 9:31 AM  

I liked it overall. But I agree that GASOLINE isn't real a "fuel source"; it's a fuel. And I also take issue with SKID meaning "go downhill fast." When I think of a car going into a skid it has nothing to do with going downhill. I guess you've gone down hill if you're "on the skids," but that doesn't work wiht the singular "skid."

Anonymous 9:33 AM  

how could you finish without realizing what the theme was?, which I thought was brilliant.

pabloinnh 9:37 AM  

Solved online this AM which was complicated by the fact that my Very Old Cat decided that the laptop in my lap was occupying his space, but he was eventually willing to share. Got the gimmick right away and thought it was impressive that he could find so , many examples and then cross them. I guess the symmetry part makes everything even more impressive but it's something I never notice. Oh well.

Basically the same no-knows that have been mentioned although I did know SORORAL as I learned it as the partner of fraternal during the college RUSH season, which was a nice cross reference. Back then we went to things called "smokers". I sincerely hope that tradition has gone away.

Nice enough Sunday, DG. although it Didn't Get me terribly excited. Pleasant enough and thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Big No Kings Day here with lots of good cheer and horn blowing. Everyone was cheerful and enthusiastic, although my wife went to buy a bottle of water and ran into a man who demanded to know "one thing Trump had lied about", since her poster had a reference to the Lyin' King. Where would you start? Thanks to all who participated.

Szechuan Dumplings 9:43 AM  

Really don't feel this puzzle is getting it's due, both architecturally and as a solving experience. This was a refreshing change from Saturday's deliberately obtuse cluing and obscure/awkward answers. Like several folks, I did not see the "trick" at first, but it was already a pleasurable solve made much more so when the pin finally dropped. Well done!

Brian 9:44 AM  

I agree, really expected Rex to be all over that one!

Dan A 10:02 AM  

Nice! “Let alone” resonates with “Drop it” :-)

Anonymous 10:05 AM  

It was hard to figure out why I was “not quite” finished. Since company cars and skis also satisfied the clues (even with the semantic inconsistencies).

Also

I believe I’ve passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage. I’ve found that just surviving is a noble fight.

I once believed in causes too. I had pointless points of view but life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

Anonymous 10:12 AM  

crazy, yesterday was almost woosh for me and alot of people said it was super hard. today people say this puz was easy yet the southwest was like a croce for me today. toughest sunday in years for my ebbing brain

Niallhost 10:15 AM  

Fairly standard easy Sunday except that I wrote LOOkLARGE early on for the "ominous presence" and when I got no happy music I couldn't find what had gone wrong. I knew that DIkE didn't seem like a quarter of a quarter but I was only questioning the first letter of the answer. And I was leaving room for the possibility that there was a DIkE definition that I had never heard of. I had enjoyed the puzzle enough not to want to spend the next 15 minutes going over letter by letter so threw in the towel.

Anonymous 10:18 AM  

SKIS would work only if the clue were "Goes downhill fast." But the clue is "Go downhill fast." So that can only be SKI.

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

“Crit” was all the rage when I was at Reed College in the ‘80s. A “crit” session would be held for peer feedback.

Adam 10:22 AM  

Fairly easy solve, honestly didn’t even notice the theme until I came here to read your write up

Sam 10:24 AM  

Impressive feat of construction

Anonymous 10:42 AM  

Have to confess i could not grok the theme until i read @Rex’s explanation. After that AHA moment i liked it immensely!

Cute, i think, that the “i” in LOWER CASE I’S is shared by EGOIST, one for whom “I” would most certainly not be small!

EasyEd 10:46 AM  

Thank you Anonymice for providing the solution to the anagram. The intent of the clue was clear but the brain refused to engage to figure out the intended word. And thanks too for noting that gasoline is not really a fuel source. I felt the idea behind the theme was pretty easy to discern, and lazily never tried to use the circled letters as a revealer. As usual, enjoyed meandering through the large Sunday grid, meeting an old friend (ENO) and a new word (SEROTYPE).

Beezer 10:49 AM  

Brilliant puzzle. I mean, this OLDSTER was very happy to finish the puzzle today and go down in flames like yesterday, but also enjoy the solve, then marvel at the theme/theme entries post-solve. I may need to look up what ANT VENOM is used for now.
Thanks for a wonderful Sunday solve Daniel Grinberg!

tht 11:08 AM  

Straightforward. The grid seemed a little too segmented to support a WHOOSHing through in the happy sense, but at least there was little to no WHOOSHing over the head. The theme was quite good in fact. The most inventive theme answer in my opinion was ANT(I)VENOM, because the toggling is between almost diametrically opposed words. (I assume ANT VENOM is akin to bee venom. I had heard that bee venom is used by some people as an alternative treatment for arthritis.)

One of the few places I've found RAE in the wild is in the name Carly Rae Jepsen (she's a pop singer, in case you're an OLDSTER who didn't know). There's Rachel Ray, the chef and TV personality, and I briefly wondered whether RAy could be the answer (despite the fact that RAYS had already APPEARED elsewhere). Generally, I had some slight trouble in the SW, because I had stuck in "NOT now" instead of NO TIME, and also disS instead of TUTS.

I thought we might hear in the write-up about the fact that COME OUT and CLOSET and GAY MECCA are all in the same puzzle. Mini theme? I did enjoy Rex's bit of etymological research, where he discusses the cluing for LOOM LARGE. Speaking of which, ENO is one of those names that LOOM LARGE in the music industry, and not only in ambient music (which speaking as a fan, I consider still a bit niche). He has been tremendously influential as a producer and collaborator. Just to name one thing out of many: his work with David Byrne on My Life in the Bush of Ghosts broke major ground in the area of sampling techniques. So the fact that his name in the NYTXW seems largely relegated to ambient music does a disservice to his true stature. I don't know his ideas about generative music, but they sound interesting.

Anyhow, nice job, Daniel Grinberg! I'm looking forward to hearing others' reactions.

Anonymous 11:12 AM  

Huh, we used it often in design school and on the job. I don't think we ever call it "critique"!

jae 11:14 AM  

Easy-medium. It took me a while to see what the circles were doing, but the puzzle itself was pretty whooshy.

Toughest theme answer - SKID wasn’t obvious to me given the clue.

Clever and subtle, liked it.

Lewis 11:20 AM  

PuzzPairs© just need to have a connection, and that connection has to be something you like. So RAE and RAYS can absolutely work!

jb129 11:23 AM  

Wow 😀
I solved as an (easy) themeless & came here to see what was going on. Am I sorry I missed all the fun? NO!
No typos, probably a PB for a Sunday so I'm happy.
Thank you, Daniel, for a great Sunday experience :)

Nancy 11:32 AM  

So there's a MR ROBOT and a MR ROBOTO too. Who knew?

I was late noticing the theme. I tore right through the COMPANY CAR on my way to COMPANY CARD, never thinking about any other possibility. I hadn't gotten to COUNTIES/COUNTRIES yet -- which once I had the theme I wrote in from just the C. I first noticed the theme at LAYOFFS/PLAYOFFS -- after which I noticed that there was a TOP SPEED to found out TOP SEED which I had already filled in.

"Clever!!", I thought, if very belatedly. The title, SAME DIFFERENCE, was a big help.

Should I complain about how easy the puzzle was? It was the un-yesterday and I needed the break from yesterday's complete frustration. The difference was today's scrupulously fair cluing compared with yesterday's free-form "bet you'll never get this one!" cluing. So a nice puzzle, but one that was over very quickly.

SouthsideJohnny 11:35 AM  

So I’ve been trying to lawyer the clue for GASOLINE (fuel source) into legitimacy, without much success I’m afraid. The most promising path I took was contemplating a two cycle engine - if memory serves, they need an additive in addition to the raw fuel. The best I could come up with was something along the lines of “Gasoline is the fuel source for my leaf blower, which needs to be mixed with a lubricant in a predefined ratio.” However, the word “source” there still seems unnecessary as fuel on a stand alone basis would probably be more accurate. That’s about all I could come up with though.

tht 11:38 AM  

Never stop doing you, egs. That straight versus GAY MECCA: mwah! I for one reimagine HITIT as a husband's enthusiastic response to HAVEATIT on offer from his wife, as she removes her bra and he lowers his gaze and addresses his old bosom buddy directly.

Can always count on you and Liveprof for setting the tone on these things.

Les S. More 11:43 AM  

Oh my, oh my, oh my. I have a typo somewhere (have I mentioned in previous comments that I’m not he world’s best typit) and only 350 or so squares to check. I’m so stoked. And nothing I’ce typed or mistyped has brought a smile to my face. OK, maybe that single LOVE BEAD in a sea of plurals (POCs per Anoa Bob). SHREWD’s a good word, I guess. Finished it - wit the typo,, yes - and the n realized, it’s Sunday, there should be a theme. (Checks title, which he always forgets to do on Sunday). Oh, so the circled squares are supposed to be dropped.

Well, that kinda works with COMPANY CARD X SKID and COUNTRIES X BURSTS, but, because I;ve never heard of the MR ROBOT TV series, I found it very difficult to appreciate that answer. I do appreciate MR ROBOTO, though.

GAS LINE can be a source of fuel, GASOLINE *is* a fuel. Not really the same.

Sorry, just like this comment needed more proofreading, this puzzle needed moer workshopping.

WKAIII 11:56 AM  

There were circles? There was a theme? There were rallies? Huh. 30 breakfast-interrupted minutes with some “I don’t remember knowing that” answers later, done. As usual, some clues needed help and others were clever. Standard-issue Sunday puzzle. Always time well spent.

DAVinHOP 12:00 PM  

Thank, Rex for the No Kings update from Binghamton. Ditto (large turnout for a small community; all positive and happy; lump-in-throat rendition of the anthem) here in Hopkinton, three towns west of Natick btw.

Carola 12:01 PM  

I got the theme idea early, at CAR/ CARD, but didn't pay attention to the crossing Down, seeing only SKID and not noticing SKI. It took me maybe halfway through before I appreciated that the theme answers crossed. After I finished, I took a screen shot on my iPad and highlighted them to admire the construction. Quite something! I really liked how the clues for P/LAYOFFS and T/RAINDELAYS worked both ways.

Nancy 12:21 PM  

Correction: to round out TOP SEED

Les S. More 12:40 PM  

I was going to jump on Rex's fear of CRIT but you and Andew Z. have pretty nicely covered it. Takes me back undergrad days when I had to participate in them and grad school days when I had to lead them. I recall the sessions as very constructive and almost always generous and honest.

Hack mechanic 1:07 PM  

Had the theme but went with company cars/skis and totally missed the "drop it" bit.
elaborate construction therefore mostly pearls before swine unfortunately!
Guessed R for the rush/rofl cross though could have put just about any letter both answers being unknowns to me.
Hardest answer in the whole thing was lower case I's not being of the apple persuasion personally

ShaaaronAK 1:12 PM  

@Rex chuckled at your riff on BOOKII.
I got the theme at company car(d) and enjoyed working out the rest.
Raised an eyebrow at OLDSTER. Has anyone ever said that?

Learned, by googling (in some disbelief) that ANT VENOM has actually been injected by people, not ants, to fight something or other (so I don't remember every word of what wikipedia said)

Had never heard of the Lenape. But hen, I would never have heard of the Yaangna If I had not grownup in LA where we had a school lesson about them and their traditional shelters and foods, complete with school trip to Yaangna Indian museum. Can't remember learning how thy ceased to exist.l

Anonymous 1:15 PM  

Pretty easy Sunday for me. I did not get the theme either. Thanks for explaining Rex. As usual I got about 70% of it done, walked away from it for an hour then sat down and almost every answer came into my head. Funny how that works

Jared 1:18 PM  

Not sure how many commenters here have seen Euphoria, but NATE (played by Jacob Elordi) isn't really an antagonist at all, let alone the *main* antagonist. If the show even has a main antagonist it's drugs; otherwise the only one I can think of is Nate's father Cal (played by Eric Dane, aka Dr. McSteamy).

okanaganer 1:38 PM  

@Les, one of the things I like about Across Lite is the "Check all letters" feature which I often use in the situation you describe. (Do the apps all have such a thing?) I'd rather "cheat" than waste time hunting for typos.

Masked and Anonymous 1:39 PM  

Most impressive constructioneerin feat. Liked it. Also liked that no U's got dropped, in the makin of the puztheme.
Sometimes an epic puz project like this pup can lead to some Ow de Speration moments. But not so much, this time. Sometimes, checkin out the debut words can be instructive, on this note. Only at-all-suspect debuts were: BOOKII. JUDGY. LOVEBEAD. LOWERCASEIS. Not too shady.
Did get a kick outta DFLATS, CRONUT, CRIT, & AACELLS, tho.

staff weeject picks: SKI(D) & (T)RIM. Nice weeject droppins, there.

fave clue: ANAGRAM's.
fave entry: LOOMLARGE.

Thanx for the numerous drops of fun, Mr. Grinberg dude. Way to go!

Masked & Anonymo10Us

... and, here's a first (or two) ...

"Runt Baby's First" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

okanaganer 1:40 PM  

@Anonymous and Les, ditto for me and CRIT. We said that all the time in Architecture school: "I've got a crit this morning".

okanaganer 1:45 PM  

This was just fine for a Sunday. I probably wouldn't have got the theme without the circled letters; for the longest time they were all blank, then I got it!

There were a lotta names here... some Unknowns (NATE TAKI FLO LENAPE OSSIE) and several Knowns (ENO ASHE ARLO ALDA SOUSA JLO ANN JOADS YEMENI). And today I learned Palm Springs is a GAY MECCA... really?

SharonAK 1:54 PM  

@Egs, THNX again for the laughs - esp IDEALISTS and MECCAS

Les S. More 1:57 PM  

@okanagener. I work off the NYT Games website and they have a 'check puzzle" feature which, after a few minutes of fruitless scanning, I will employ. When the red diagonal line highlights my mistake I will usually shake my head, mutter, "How the hell did I do that?", and fix it. It blows my streak but I don't really care about streaks. I care about fixing my typo before I go blind.

Anonymous 1:57 PM  

Crit was definitely a thing in both architecture school (for me) and art school (for my wife) in the sixties and seventies.

MetroGnome 2:14 PM  

100% Natick on ELSA (who?) / LENAPE.

burtonkd 2:19 PM  

Today’s LATimes is by Zhouquin Burkinel, a perennial favorite, now in Sunday form.

JazzmanChgo 2:22 PM  

GASOLINE is a fuel, not a "fuel source." (I suppose it could also be considered an "energy source," but that would also be a stretch.) And I always thought it was ANTVENIN, not ANTIVENOM. So were all those cool books about reptiles that I read as a kid using the wrong term?

Ken Freeland 2:41 PM  

Seems to be a positive consensus about this one...for my money a 5-star puzzle. Clever theme well executed, masterful construction feat, upbeat cluing throughout. I also concur that the SW corner was brutal....that's partly because of the uncharacteristic PPP load there, but this is a very minor flaw on a stellar puzzle!

tht 2:49 PM  

I understand. Still, the quality of the "life that goes on" is something that people of all ages should be discussing and doing something about -- provided they have the time and energy to do more than just survive. Surely we want our children and grandchildren and future generations to realize their potential and find fulfillment in their lives, and not "just survive" (or not). I don't think there's an age past which being concerned about these things is a mark of immaturity.

(I'm guessing you didn't go to a No Kings rally yesterday. Neither did I. I had to pick up my wife from the airport and wanted to celebrate her return.)

thefogman 2:59 PM  

Surprised Rex did not catch the duplicates at 25A and 56A: OPENUPTO and UPHERE. Not very surprised WS missed it though.

Anonymous 3:09 PM  

I know it makes sense within the conventions of plural crosswords clues and answers, but they are almost always referred to as the Brothers GRIMM so the pluralization really threw me off

Anonymous 3:21 PM  

I completely missed the theme and the circled letters, but still managed to complete the puzzle . I thought it was quite easy and even was able to enter a couple of tricky answers including LOWERCASEIS!! Yay for me!!

Anonymous 3:28 PM  

You’re not the only one… 🤣

Hungry Mother 3:32 PM  

One square off in the end. It turned out to be a blunder, so I don’t feel too bad about it.

kitshef 3:34 PM  

A very solid, well-built puzzle, with a level of polish not seen often enough of late.

I've heard of both MR ROBOT and MR ROBOTO, but don't actually know what either one is about.

Also, I apparently need to brush up on my gay Meccas. I only know Puerto Vallarta as a 'lovely' destination on trip giveaways on games shows of my youth and frequent port of The Love Boat.
Mrsshef and I spent some time in Mexico a couple of hours north of Puerto Vallarta. We were participating in a study of the carnivore populations, during which we trapped (and released) a then-record ocelot (by weight) for the state of Jalisco. Also, I won a contest in which men dressed up as ballerinas and did a comic dance at a nearby Club Med – so two significant triumphs on that trip.

Susan 4:09 PM  

I took it to mean one source of fuel, or choice of fuel.

Paul Mazur 6:03 PM  

GAYMECCA is such an oxymoron

Sheryl 6:53 PM  

I was a sculpture major as an undergraduate, and "crit" is definitely an art-world-specific term. I wrote it in immediately.

Gary Jugert 7:03 PM  

¡Que empiece la banda!

Zipped right through this one and didn't understand the circles. Now that it's been explained to me, it seems like a fancy architectural achievement, but maybe irrelevant to the puzzle.

[Fights back tears?] = DARNS! Epic.

Here's when counting gunk becomes exasperating: Michelle Obama, to Princeton = ALUM. That's a person, a place, and a partial all wrapped up in one. But what is it mostly? The travails of the gunkometer are real.

LANAPE is new to me. Love the Wikipedia page on them.

I wonder if any person in the English-speaking world will call any spice a food-enlivener today. Maybe a MORON. Maybe somebody catching RAYS in the winter.

❤️ HANKY. Jokes WHOOSH-ing. OLDSTER.

I hope everyone had fun at their rallies (or harrumphing about the rallies) yesterday. The "SYSTEM" (as our puzzle refers to it obliquely) is thriving in what's left of America.

People:18
Places: 4
Products: 6
Partials: 9
Foreignisms: 3
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 40 of 140 (29%)

Funny Factor: 4 😕

Tee-Hee: GAY MECCA. Are there any straight meccas ... mecciopodes?

Uniclues:

1 Put the sweaters into the plastic tubs.
2 One headed to Mecca who stops for a dalliance at the Chi Omega house.

1 APRIL CLOSET SYSTEM
2 HAJIS' SORORAL RUSE (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Reputation of one with a radioactive personality. URANIUM ORE CRED.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

CDilly52 7:06 PM  

I am a little ashamed to admit that the solve was a bit boring so I started watching a tv show my granddaughter has been begging me to watch called “Severance.” I tried to do both. I am generally not a fan of sci-fi unless it is exceptional. This one might hook me. It resonates with me in the current political environment. I told her I would continue to watch - for a while at least.

Easy Sunday. When a Sunday is easy, I often scan the clues looking for an interesting one and solve in that area for a while. Today, for some reason, I saw 36A “Indulge (in)” and PARTAKE popped into my head. I mentally checked some downs, found I was correct and wended my way south from there.

My trajectory whooshed me all the way down through the SE corner. I stalled at 112A “Annoyances for ticket holders,” but only momentarily because after all it is MLB Playoff/Series time, and my baseball mania has been high especially since my Cubs made a valiant showing this year and my LawSon’s (that’s my son-in-law, who calls me “LawMama”) Dodgers made it all the way to the Series! We’ve been having a great time, and my daughter doesn’t have to pretend to enjoy watching. So RAIN DELAYS was (I thought) a gimme. What??!!??!! Too many spaces? And a dreaded circle. Some of you may know the dreaded circle is not a favorite crossword RUSE of mine.

I left all of that one blank until I had the downs to confirm. LIME, RAMEN, HYMNS and OSSIE, 100% gimmes, confirmed RAIN DELAYS position and left me with the dang circle. The T therein wasn’t hard to get but did not give me the theme. I admit it took me a while simply because of my solve route.

I decided to go look for the circles to see what they spelled. Strike two for the solver!

So, I decided to keep going in a counterclockwise direction. That easily gave me the ANTIVENOM/NO TIME cross. All that did was reinforce that the circles spelled a word. Just couldn’t see what was going on. I could blame it on the fact that I was getting into “Severance” but I’d be lying.

This was one Sunday in which I almost wish I’d looked at the title to the puzzle, something I just don’t do until after I get my happy music reward. Even though back in the day when we solved in the actual newspaper, we never looked. Gran told me to learn to solve without the title, and she would fold the top of the page over. She was a stickler for her own rules but it made me a quicker study of the ins and outs of crosswords.

I finally got it at COMPANY CAR(D)/SKI(D) probably because in my big firm days I had both a CAR and a CARD. Yep, I was super slow on the uptake today. Doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate this tidy, well-clued breezy junk-light Sunday treat.

High on my list of great entries are: PARTAKE, LOOM LARGE and SHREWD. My favorite of the clever clues is “fights back tears” for DARNS. That’s a five star clue if ever one existed. My mind quickly heard “rips” rather than “weeping” because I am familiar with Daniel Grinberg’s cleverness and because Gran taught me how (alas unsuccessfully) to DARN socks at a very early age. HONESTLY, I tried.

As an American immigrant, survivor of WW II, a divided Germany, and close friend to several German Jewish families, she taught me truly to appreciate my many freedoms, the bounty available in the US, the duty to work hard, the value of a dollar earned for a full day’s work and especially the responsibility not to waste anything. Her motto was “patch it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.”

Darning is not easy and I admit I feel guilty these days when I throw away a darnaable sock. I never got the hang of it and my stitches never held. In case you wonder, it’s almost impossible to re-darn a poorly darned sock. The edges of the original hole are now pulled out and well, it’s pretty much a lost cause, something today’s puzzle was anything but.

Enjoyable Sunday. And, FYI, if you like some really creepy sci-fi, at least start “Severance.” Just maybe don’t try to do the crossword and watch simultaneously.

CDilly52 7:08 PM  

Love her work. Thanks!

Anonymous 7:08 PM  

Andrew Z
As Anonymous shows, it’s a big country, and even within academia usage varies a lot even in the same field.
I am a retired lawyer and I had to lesrn from crosswords that ONE L for first year law student is a thing.

CDilly52 7:16 PM  

The Lenape indigenous people are almost always called the Delaware. Had I not lived on Oklahoma with its rich history and large of indigenous tribes, this would have been an unknown for me too.

But for the plethora of ELSA and OLAF entries after the year (whenever it was) of the Disney debut of “Frozen,” which I have never seen, I would never have known ELSA either. Now it’s one of those “crossword names” one should have in the arsenal.

dgd 7:24 PM  

Anonymous 8:45 AM
About SORORAL. I disagree. It has the same root as sorority coming from soror , sister in Latin. Just because one particular solver doesn’t know something doesn’t mean it is a natick. A lot of people know enough to guess the R. Rex invented the word natick and he uses an objective standard. I actually hate the word sororal and was annoyed the last time it appeared in the Times puzzle but to me such a good puzzle so I let it pass

CDilly52 7:24 PM  

@Les S: I wholeheartedly agree with check before blindness and screw the streak! I never took typing back in the day because I refused to be relegated to the limited professional jobs for women. Consequently, my typing “skill” is nonexistent. I also have visual impairment. Yep, check before blindness.

CDilly52 7:29 PM  

Agree @Southside. GASOLINE by itself is not a “source,” it’s just a type of fuel. I think it’s one of those added words in a clue designed to confuse. I tried oilLINEs for a hot second, but the puzzle was so easy that I knew it had to be GASOLINE. WS missed this one.

Anonymous 7:30 PM  

Anonymous 9:31 AM
You can skid going downhill, close enough for crosswords. Ditto gasoline a fuel source. We are not talking about a dictionary. There are clues ( a type of hint) with answers.not words followed by definitions.
GASOLINE an GAS LINE was my favorite. Very clever it definitely works.

CDilly52 7:32 PM  

@ Anonymous 10:21 AM. Same for me in the late 60s early 70s at Illinois.

CDilly52 7:34 PM  

@egs, you have been in rare form this week. Keep ‘em comin’!

CDilly52 7:37 PM  

@Anonymous 7:31 AM. And an ANAGRAM that isn’t one of the easiest to see!

EdFromHackensack 7:54 PM  

I agree, how could you not realize what the theme was... that was the fun part. I marvel at the construction. Great job, Daniel.

Anonymous 7:55 PM  

how so?

Anonymous 7:56 PM  

Company cars /skis…

I should have a really good solve time. I went through word by word three times. Even looked at the circled letters, but maybe not close enough. I guess “srop it” isn’t a phrase. SMH

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