Futile batting statlines, in baseball lingo / THU 12-19-24 / Parenthetical on four #1 albums since 2021 / Laser-focused mindset / Sticky treats, in more ways than one? / Hedgehog lookalikes / Nantz's longtime N.F.L. commentating partner / Coding catchall

Thursday, December 19, 2024

Constructor: Brandon Koppy

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium


THEME: SCREEN / SHARES (45A: With 45-Down, displays during an online presentation ... or a hint to three pairs of answers in this puzzle) — answers with the initials "T.V." cross at their first letter, resulting in three "TV" squares—so the first letters of the two words in each theme answer are a kind of "screen" (TV), and those letters "share" one box:

Theme answers:
  • TUNNEL / VISION (11A: Laser-focused mindset)
  • TAYLOR'S / VERSION (22A: Parenthetical on four #1 albums since 2021)
  • TERMINAL / VELOCITY (31A: Speed limit, of a sort)
Word of the Day: OH-FERS (36D: Futile batting statlines, in baseball lingo) —

O-fer

Definition


Descriptive of a batter who fails to get a hit in any number of at-bats in a game or series of games. "Bob Buhl owns the worst O-fer in major league history-0 for 88 over two seasons." (Sports Illustrated, June 7, 2004). Davey Johnson, commenting on Rafael Palmeiro (quoted in The Baltimore Sun, Aug. 28, 1997): "If he goes O-fer, he's going to get down on himself." Sometimes spelled "ofer". Syn. O-for; oh-for; oh-fer, 1; 0-fer.

Etymology


The term is created from "0 [zero] for," as one would say when speaking of an "0 for 3" game. (Dickson Baseball Dictionary)

• • •


Well you had me ... and then you lost me. Right at the end. Goal line fumble (to use a sports term, which this puzzle *really* seems to like). I guess *I* was the one who fumbled, but it feels like the puzzle fumbled. In short, I thought the revealer execution was garbage, in that it was built exactly like the rest of the theme answers (with Across + Down answers crossing at their first letter), except the "T/V" gimmick was abandoned in favor of ... just an ordinary single letter ("S")? To set up the "T/V" pattern and then arbitrarily break it ifor the revealer (even though You Have Built Your Revealer With Exactly The Same Structure) felt cheap. Like a cheap trick. That "T/V" non-appearance befuddled me way more than the theme itself actually did—I wrote that (erroneous) "T/V" square in pretty quickly when I saw the revealer had the same first-letter-shared structure as the other themers. So the revealer wouldn't come, and then, well, that corner was not exactly the friendliest, with the weird word COYEST (when do you rank coyness?) and the absolutely bonkers clue on GESTATE (60A: Baby bear?)—so if you "bear" ("carry") a "baby," you GESTATE it ... in your womb? Torture. Syntactically, anyway—torture. So I basically irised in on that non-"T/V" square, the shared "S" in SCREEN SHARES, and finally I absolutely had to ditch the "T/V" and then I could see the actual revealer. I know that the revealer clue clearly says "a hint to three pairs of answers," and a "T/V" in the revealer's first square would've made it four, but who goes back and counts? Or even thinks about that number? Bah. That non-"T/V" shared square felt like a let-down and a betrayal, a breach of contract. Also, profoundly anticlimactic, which is sad, because I think the revealer itself is great, and the theme is really well done overall. I mostly enjoyed myself ... until I entered that SE corner, and then—meh and bah and boo.


Leaving the particular structure of the revealer out of it, I thought the theme was clever and well-executed. I particularly like the grid structure—mirror symmetry along the NW-to-SE axis—and the fact that all the "TV"s line up along that axis. Uncovering the gimmick wasn't too tough today. Some bumbling at first in the NW corner (pretty normal), and then—after imagining that [Some mustangs] were T-TOPS (?) and that a [Commoner] was a PEON—I hit 22AParenthetical on four #1 albums since 2021 with -AY- in place, and I thought "TAYLOR'S Version! ... but where's the 'version'? ... huh, must not be right." I went back up in the NW corner, got TUNNEL, wondered where "vision" had got to, and then *finally* looked Down, saw the cross-reference, and realized the VISION (and the VERSION) were right there all along, crossing the TUNNEL (and the TAYLOR'S) at the first letter. 


A "TV" rebus, cool. And again, SCREEN SHARES is a nice revealer ... just not the way it's executed in the grid, which feels like the COYEST trick I've ever seen (hey, maybe COYEST is a word?). I probably should've made "TAYLOR'S / VERSION" the Word of the Day. Famously, Taylor Swift rerecorded a bunch of her early albums in order to gain ownership of the material. So those rerecorded albums have "(TAYLOR'S VERSION)" appended to their titles.


I pay far less attention to professional sports than I used to when I was a kid (obsessed! with all the majors except hockey, which we did not have in California, then, and which I couldn't be bothered to care about when it finally did come). So sports terminology and slang is generally familiar to me, but I'm very aware that that is not the case for many solvers, so when I see it in droves, in spades, in avalanches, I start to feel for those non-sports folks. Today, I really felt for them when OH-FERS (36D: Futile batting statlines, in baseball lingo) ended up right next to POSTS UP (37D: Hangs out for a while), a bizarrely-spelled (and awkwardly clued) baseball term right alongside what I assume is a basketball term. I mean, there's nothing in the clue about basketball, but the only place I know the phrase POSTS UP from is basketball. To "post up" means "to take up a position against a defender in the post in basketball while standing with one's back to the basket" (merriam-webster.com). Centers or other big men often are said to be "hanging out in the (low) post." If there is some non-basketball meaning of POSTS UP that equates the term with "hanging out," I don't know of it, and neither do the online dictionaries I'm looking at. Insane clue for POSTS UP. [update: Urban Dictionary seems to know this “hang out” definition, and wiktionary has “occupy a position” as its fourth def]. And as for OH-FERS, yikes. I would ... not spell "O" like that. The "O" (said as the letter "O") stands for zero, so putting an "H" on it makes it look *ridiculous*. Apparently someone somewhere decided you could spell it that way if you wanted, but that is not the common way to spell it, and I feel sorry for the undoubtedly many solvers for whom that entire clue and answer was inscrutable. And then to have AND ONE (42D: Free throw after a basket) and the WTA (58D: Org. for Coco Gauff) and Phil SIMMS (14D: Nantz's longtime N.F.L. commentating partner) also in the grid? Even I, a sports non-hater, thought the puzzle was going overboard.


More:
  • 6A: Comedian Ken of "The Masked Singer" (JEONG) — me: "how the **** would I know, who even watches that **** show, come on!" Also me, seconds later: "Oh, it's just Ken JEONG. He's on that show? Huh."
  • 35A: Sticky treats, in more ways than one? (POPSICLES) — a great clue, and frankly, I'm not sure it even needs the "?"—they do have sticks, so they are stick-y. I know we don't use the term "sticky" that way, but it's Thursday, trust me to figure it out.
  • 9D: Burning man? (NERO) — ugh, this one made about as much intuitive sense as [Baby bear?]. NERO (famously, probably apocryphally) fiddled while Rome burned. According to History dot com, "the fiddle didn't exist in ancient Rome." So there's that. But back to the clue—I guess NERO is a man *associated* with "burning"? [Grimace] [resigned headshake] [moving on]
  • 33D: Hedgehog lookalikes (ECHIDNAS) — my first instinct is always to spell this "ECHINDAS" (rhymes with "Lindas"?). I don't know why. Also, I just found out that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 opens tomorrow. No idea if any ECHIDNAS are involved, as I can't imagine caring about this franchise at all, for any reason. Like, if you made a movie in a lab specifically designed to keep me away, this would be that movie. If there were an interest level below zero, that would be my interest level. In related news, I'm driving over an hour today to see All We Imagine As Light, a truly awful / forgettable / confusable title, but apparently one of the best movies of the year (the very best, according to Sight + Sound). If there are ECHIDNAS in it, I'll let you know.
Time for Holiday Pet Pics now 

(again, this year's submissions are closed, thank you!)

Ruby has had enough of the photo sessions and would like you to just throw the damned ball already

[Thanks, Mark]

Sadie has also had enough of the photo shoot. She seems calm here, but you can tell that she's about to bust out of there and take Santa with her. 
[Thanks, Juliann]

I know this is the gaze of a dog (Fenway) who just wants you to hurry up and finish your puzzle already so you all can go for a run, but when I look at this sweet face, all I feel is calm. My jaw unclenches, my shoulders relax. All is calm, all is Fenway. 
[Thanks, Sarah]

From Fenway to a couple of more bat-sport pets—the brothers Baseball and Cricket. They spend their days lounging, purring, sleeping, and failing to understand the rules of each other's respective sports

[Thanks, Mike]

And finally today we have Simon & Scout, seen here taking a much-deserved break from their busy touring schedule for "Simon & Scout's Tap-Dancing Holiday Revue!"
[Thanks, Pamela]

See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

[Follow Rex Parker on BlueSky and Facebook]

86 comments:

Stuart 6:09 AM  

Loved this! Clever and well done. The single letter in the revealed bothered me not at all.

Anonymous 6:16 AM  

Easy for a Thursday. I got the trick with TUNNEL/VISION, and later on I didn't even have to look at the clue for TERMINAL/VELOCITY with the letters I had in place.

The SW was the hardest corner for me. OHFERS looked ridiculous and POSTS UP was mystifying. Not to mention RHO (could've been TAU, PHI, CHI, PSI) and the DOLE/METE kealoa, where the only crossing Down that came to me easily was ETNA, and that final E didn't help.

I agree with Rex on how ridiculous that GESTATE clue is. Just go with [Bear babies], no question mark and it's the same misdirection but the parts of speech work fine.

About Sonic, actually yes, one of Sonic's PALS is Knuckles the ECHIDNA.

Conrad 6:19 AM  

Easy-Medium for a Thursday.

Overwrites:
SnIt before STIR at 24D
SAUcE PAN before SAUTE at 28A
Dope before Deet before DIRT at 34A
AdD ONE before AND at 42D

WOEs:
RUMI at 23D

It took me some time to realize the two ways that POPSICLES (35A) are "sticky."

Anonymous 6:29 AM  

Sorry Rex, "post up" absolutely can be a synonym for "hang out", loiter innocuously, etc. It's one of the first entries for the term on Urban Dictionary...

Anonymous 6:33 AM  

Stared at the revealed for a while before removing the TV but the SW corner took much longer. Also had JEOrG / rERO until the end because the name looked right and I’m used to a few answers that don’t make sense, like OHFERS.

Anonymous 6:35 AM  

I often guess at what will be said/written about in the blog. I’m often wrong and usually way off. Today I guessed the revealer would be a problem and I was right for once. I also agree. Good revealer but bad execution.

Anonymous 6:47 AM  

Rex, one day you will go see Sonic the Hedgehog 6 because your grandkid will want to see it and you will love it ;)

Andy Freude 7:00 AM  

Another hand up for enjoying the puzzle despite the clunky revealer. Thanks, Rex, for pointing out the unusual grid symmetry — the kind of thing I wouldn’t notice without this blog but am happy to learn about and admire.

Unusually, all the sports terms didn’t bother this non-sporty fellow for once. (The spelling of OHFERS didn’t slow me down, since I’ve never seen any other spelling.) Still, I long for a puzzle full of opera and mycology. Maybe tomorrow…

kitshef 7:11 AM  

Hard, but not due to the theme, and not in a good way.
Issues:
Never heard of JEONG.
Did not recognize Arondelle (and I wonder who the non-fictional queen would be).
Never knew spelling bees had ranks.
Never heard of SNO way.
SUN RAY is nonsense: sunbeam, OK; sun's rays, OK; sun ray, nonsense.
I'm supposed to know broadcast partners???
It's ofers, not OHFERS.
Clues for POSTS UP and GESTATE were bizarre to me (never having heard of the urban dictionary defintion of posts up).

king_yeti 7:13 AM  

maybe posts up also means hangs on a bulletin board? It had me scratching my head too

Justin M 7:15 AM  

Agreed! We use it often in my friend circles. You're at a party, don't feel like mingling yet? "I'm just gonna post up right here in the corner and find y'all in a bit."

Anonymous 7:19 AM  

Puzzle was fun, but if you are going to feature Popsicle Toes (one of my all-time favorites) I would have to insist on the Michael Franks version!

Anonymous 7:34 AM  

I initially thought the revealer would include the T/V rebus, but that was just momentary. My problem with the revealer was reading “displays” as a verb rather than a noun, so reversing the two words, e.g. SHARES (across) SCREEN. When I couldn’t make that work I took it out and the crosses helped me see the error of my ways.

The other problem for me was SAUcEPAN for SAUTÉ PAN. It took me a while to spot that mistake.

Bob Mills 7:38 AM  

I agree with Rex about the clue for GESTATE being a real stretch (no pun intended). I caught on to the theme fairly early, because TUNNEL/VISION was almost a giveaway. I needed help to spell ECHIDNAS, and a second cheat was SNO (I had "smo" and "seemore" instead of SEENOTE). Overall, a much nicer puzzle than most Thursdays.

SouthsideJohnny 7:45 AM  

My experience was pretty consistent with the consensus thus far - getting the theme wasn’t much of a problem, but a big Raspberry to JEONG, NERO (as clued), ELSA (as clued - give me a break), GESTATE and ECHIDNAS. Those are just some godawful clue/answer combinations. The editor should have his license suspended for a week.

It’s a little Shakespearean (in the tragic sense) - these grids have so much potential, but the crew at the NYT can’t help but shoot themselves in the foot on a daily basis with these absolutely bizarre clue/answer combinations, which are totally self-inflicted and so unnecessary.

Rick Sacra 7:52 AM  

Great Puzzle! Thanks, Brandon! 16 minutes, which is probably easy-ish for me on a Thursday. Took me a while to get the happy music cuz I had OkOK instead of OHOK at first (misspelled ECHIDNAS as ECkIDNAS--pronounced the same after all). Anyway, enjoyed the puzzle, put the T/V in for the revealer just like @rex but didn't take too long to see it was going to be screen shares.... Didn't get the "sticky" pun ("stick-y" would have made it more obv) til I got to the blog... enjoyed the puzzle lots, fun idea.

Sutsy 7:53 AM  

This one made me feel more annoyed and cheated rather than satisfied by the conclusion. Easily falls into the top five worst NYTXWs of the year.

Anonymous 7:55 AM  

I thought ESTATE right next to GESTATE was worth a mention 😏

Lewis 8:06 AM  

My favorite moment was when I got fooled. I had filled all but the SE, and there were those three T/V’s in a gorgeous straight line coming down from the NW, so, before filling in anything else in that quadrant, I confidently plopped in another one in square 45 and spent serious time trying to make it work.

When I finally saw that it was wrong, I let out a huge “Hah!” at being mightily taken. I get gotten like that often, and my reaction is almost always, “Well played! You got me good!” I love when that happens.

Other things I loved today:
• An answer set loaded with pop, with one out of every four answers having appeared in the Times puzzle four times or less over its 80+ years.
• The fresh grid design, with its not-often-used diagonal symmetry, and with its high number of black squares (even higher than the average Monday) combined with its low word count (equivalent to a Saturday).
• ESTATE over ESTATE in the SE.
• That clue for ANI, a Times puzzle answer more than 600 times, but never before today with the “no I in team” angle.

When there is so much to love, as there was today, I am most grateful. Thank you, Brandon, for making this!

Dr.A 8:11 AM  

He won’t love it. But he ‘might’ not tell the kid that their taste in movies is god awful!!

Anonymous 8:14 AM  

OHFER is pretty disqualifying, especially when you have OHOK sitting right there. There is just no reason for an H to be anywhere in that word/answer.

Dr.A 8:17 AM  

I figured the revealer would be different from the themers so I didn’t put the TV in there and finally got SCREEN SHARE from the crosses mostly. Very grateful that my daughter loves ECHIDNAS for some reason. No idea how that happened. Maybe the Wild Kratts. And lastly, although I don’t watch any sports, it would be hard to grow up in the 80s and not be able to parse Phil SIMMS, and I have heard “oh for two”” etc, So I could figure that one out, even though I’d never seen this context. And if you read any news at all, you’ve probably heard of the tennis player, Coco Gauff, but whatevs. Didn’t seem crazy on the sports lingo to me. I have not heard the term POSTS UP colloquially or in sports, so to me it sounded like you posted a notice for a while somewhere and then took it down! Still got it. Nothing terribly hard and I thought overall, cute clueing. Fun theme!

Lewis 8:24 AM  

A line I love from RUMI:

“You are not a drop in the ocean. You are the entire ocean in a drop.”

RooMonster 8:54 AM  

Hey All !
Diagonal symmetry. Neat. Take the NE corner, fold it to the SW corner, your puz will crease starting with the Blocker diagonally in front of the first T/V rebus, to the lone Blocker in the SE. Boom, Blockers line up.

Thinking maybe the shared S could've been a rebus T/V/S? Yes, no?

Add me to the OHFWRS Huh? group, but sorta easy to grok, crossers were fair.

I SEE, SEE NOTE. Also thought we'd be getting two SLYs. Thought COYEST was slYEST at first.

Fill decent, a lot of Theme to work around. 40 Blockers, not too bad.

Different, NICE puz that accepted the Rebussed T/V on the desktop NYTXW site.

Happy Thursday!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Benbini 8:57 AM  

Easy puzzle but like I stalled for three clicks since OHFERS made no sense to me ("Oh, Fers!"?)

TBF the Nero clue did not at all allude to his apocryphal fiddling. There was indeed a major fire in Rome under his watch.

Anonymous 9:03 AM  

I definitely have used POSTS UP before in every day life. Most years when friends ask what I’m doing for my birthday, I’ll say (literally) “I’m just gonna post up at this bar for the evening”. It’s definitely used.

pabloinnh 9:04 AM  

Agree with many that the rebus was easily discerned, awful clues for GESTATE and NERO, and that the shared S in the revealer was no big deal, because I had enough of the other letters to see that neither a T nor a V was going to make any sense.

All the sports clues are aces with me, although the H in OHFER looks ODD.

Know ELSA , thanks to being a GRANDPA. Don't know Mr. JEONG and I haven't needed to look at anything that might be a JOBBOARD in quite a while, so those were both WOE's. And I'm sure that TALYOR'S VERSIONS are a thing, but that's a TIL here.

OK Thursday on the easy side, KB. Guess I'll Keep Bringing expectations of a little more trickiness to Thursday, but thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Niallhost 9:05 AM  

Flew through this one (for a Thursday) with one 5 second hiccup at the very end at the GRANDmA/GRANDPA crossing. No idea who Charlie brought to the factory. I was thinking a certain type of 'man' might live on the range, but knew that SAUTE had to be right, and thought the odds of never having heard of a SAUTE mAN were low. Always nice to end on an "I didn't see that coming" answer. The revealer was a slight let-down but not enough to ruin the puzzle for me. Easier than I prefer for my Thursdays. Finished in 13:18

DrBB 9:07 AM  

Pretty easy for me. I took the non-T/V revealer was SLYLY tweaking all of us who got the trick early on and thought we could just go ahead and fill in all the rebus clues. "Not so fast, smarty pants." Also LOVED the clue at Baby bear, once I caught it, but I'm a sucker for that "one of the homophones is a verb, not a noun" wordplay. Cause it's all about the "Aha!" Which obscure sports references only gettable by crosses doesn't do for me at all.

On the other side of the scales, COYEST is pushing up against the boundary of "Said no actual human ever" and SUNRAY is over it as far as I'm concerned.

DrBB 9:15 AM  

Dunno about you but I'm unable to see the word "echidna" without thinking of Frank Zappa--missed a good contextual-video opportunity there.
https://youtu.be/Bb5AKjDlDxo?si=TqhBn4RLOESydXNt

Anonymous 9:22 AM  

Indeed, the character Knuckles in Sonic is an ECHIDNA! As for POSTS UP, I didn’t even register the sports term for this, just thought someone “posting up for a while.” The annoying sports one was that SIMMS hasn’t been Nantz’s partner for over 5 years.

Smith 9:24 AM  

Too much sports, although I guessed SIMMS from what I had. I thought OHFER referred to something that the observer would say, " OH FER Pete's sake" or words to that effect (and I see from the commentariat that it refers to a zero pronounced "o", so my way makes more sense). Tried AdDONs, right, because, from the context, it must be an extra point? Same logic after AREWEON, so AdDONE. Still adding that extra point. Since I had T/V in 45 it looked like tCREEd. Which leads to my next point (if you will):
Totally with @Rex on the revealer!! Unfair. Breaking the pattern like that, sigh. Down I had vHAR_S. Because GESTATE?? took a long time. And how, how, is that right atop ESTATE?

Took loooonger that your average bear, er, Thursday.

Also, so many anonymice. Not reading you. Get a name!

Terra Schaller 9:30 AM  

Good morning.

Perry 9:36 AM  

What a stupid, pointless theme. I was at least hoping for some clever reference to the state of Vermont. Instead, we get the proverbial 'boob tube' or 'idiot box.'

Anonymous 9:39 AM  

"Posted up" definitely has some non-basketball use among Gen Z at least. Saying something like "I'm posted up at the coffee shop to finish this project" would be common and easily understood in my circles. Agree with you about the baseball clue being rough, as someone who watches a lot of baseball I had OFFERS there for a long time because commentators often describe swinging and missing as "offering at a pitch"

kj 9:57 AM  

Agreed. Perhaps a clue more like “_____ Pete (Minnesota expression of exasperation)” would work better if they have to spell it that way. I said it this morning, in fact, when I woke to seven inches of unexpected snow.

Anonymous 9:58 AM  

Are popsicles sticky in a "you can get your tongue stuck one them" kind of way?

Anonymous 10:01 AM  

UGH. POSTSUP? sorry, never have I ever. 65 year old with a wide social circle and I have yet to hear that phrase. KenJEONG? much like a Margaret Cho, an unfunny Asian "comedian". Had Peon at first and PReen before PRIMP. I got the theme early and had no problem with the revealer and thought it was clever. As screens (TVs) WERE shared . This one just was not cup of tea.

Ray Yuen 10:04 AM  

"Ohfer" is absolute garbage. Firstly, you just eliminated most everyone whose first language is not English. Anyone learning the language out of childhood would call a zero, "zero." The "o" people use is just stupid. Then as Rex said, you had an awful "h" to it to further the bastardisation?

Nancy 10:07 AM  

I've heard of movie STUNTS, but what's a PRSTUNT? OHFER heaven's sake, I know: Someone pops out of a cake that's painted green. Or out of a beer barrel that's painted green. Something like that.

I couldn't get the OHFERS/PRSTUNT cross. It didn't help that I've never heard of an ECHIDNA either.

I also didn't finish the STIR/SAUcEPAN/DIRT cross. When the kerfuffle wasn't a SPAT, I couldn't think of another 4-letter answer beginning with S -- especially since I had a C where the T should have been. DIRT is illicit? You could have fooled me. If it were, 98% of the world's population would be in jail.

I liked the theme a lot. But some of the rest of the puzzle gave me fits.

Anonymous 10:07 AM  

Post up is pretty common Millenial slang, and it definitely comes from basketball.

Anonymous 10:09 AM  

Knuckles, from the Sonic series, is an Echidna, which is the only reason I had any sort of idea on that clue.

Anonymous 10:11 AM  

Definitely a Millenial identifying clue.

Unknown 10:12 AM  

the spelling bee clue is a nyt self reference to their game spelling bee. I kindof expected ofl to point that out

JJK 10:15 AM  

Saying “o” for “zero” is idiomatic, every language contains idiomatic expressions that can be frustrating to non-native speakers but they’re not stupid.

Adrienne 10:21 AM  

Yup, I agree too! I had no idea "post up" was a basketball term.

JJK 10:21 AM  

No problem getting the theme and the rebus, and it didn’t bother me that the revealer didn’t contain the rebus. I did have a lot of trouble with STIR crossing DIRT for some reason, neither of those, which I should have gotten pretty easily, would come to me. And of course, being one of those non-sports people, OHFERS and POSTSUP were complete mysteries. I got them from crosses but didn’t trust that I had them right until I got the happy music.

Gary Jugert 10:42 AM  

Instalé un comedero para pájaros, pero ¿cómo lo sabrán los gorriones?

Before discussing this delightful and shockingly gunk-free puzzle, I wanted you to know nobody used my new bird feeder, not even the COYEST STIR, and I stared at it all day yesterday. I guess these privileged New Mexico birds have better things to do with their time. I wish I could email them and let them know it's the good stuff with no shells. I did however get a photo of a sharp shinned hawk a few blocks east of here, so maybe he ate all the local birds instead of the local ECHIDNAS.

By comparison, facing this puzzle was much easier than facing my birding angst. Took awhile staring at -ISION before I suddenly saw VISION. I so much wanted it to be FISSION with the laser in the clue.

There was a bad fire in Rome during Nero's reign, so the clue seems good, and it is a relief not to see the fiddle trope.

❤️ Loved the clues for SAUTÉ PAN and GESTATE (especially hanging out for awhile above ESTATE).

😫 It's 0-fers.

Propers: 4
Places: 1
Products: 2
Partials: 3
Foreignisms: 1
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 11 of 67 (16%) {Wow! Truly remarkable with such challenging architecture.}

Funnyisms: 4 🙂

Tee-Hee: [Illicit info].

Uniclues:

1 What you'll hear at a poetry slam in Nevada.
2 What retail clerks give me when I'm trying to be funny at the checkout.
3 Catch phrase in a Sixth Sense remake starring worms.
4 Voodoo priest preventing employers from sending an email thanking you for applying.
5 Pleasant phrase in your living room and cruel phrase at a plane crash site in the Andes.

1 SIN CITY BAD RAPS
2 TERMINAL SNEER (~)
3 I SEE DIRT
4 JOB BOARDS MAGE
5 LET'S EAT GRANDPA (~)

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Gratuity for pole dancer in the produce section. GROCERY LUST TIP.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 10:44 AM  

Echidna's Arf (Of You)

Carola 10:50 AM  

Minority report: I found it hard. I got nowhere on the theme answers, much less the rebus squares, until I was all the way down in the SE corner and managed to put SCREEN SHARES together. Then the light bulb went on for TERMINAL VELOCITY, followed by the other two TV answers. More of a struggle for me than a joyful solve, but I was happy to finish. And I did like the MOTLEY ECHIDNAS.

@kitshef - I think the clue refers to the NY Times Spelling Bee game.

Anonymous 10:58 AM  

stupid theme, o-fer is spelled wrong

jberg 11:05 AM  

The theme was fine, once I got it -- which was early. But there were too many (for me at least) of either forced cluing or infelicitous answers. Normally one says 'bum RAPS' (though rarely in the plural), not BAD ones. And that ray of light is a SUNbeam, so idiomatic that the two words have become one. The relationship here is totally reversed, the beam of light becomes a SUN RAY. SEE NOTE is just a reference, nothing cross about it. SEE also would be a cross-reference. And while I use my SAUTE PAN on the range, its home is in the cabinet. (Nice kealoa with SAUcEPAN, though.) PLEB for commoner and the POC LEIS were not great, though not as bad either.

The clue for POPSICLES was great, though, I really enjoyed that one. And it was kind of fun to be reminded of the whole dust-up about Ms. Swift's intellectual property rights.

egsforbreakfast 11:11 AM  

Interviewer: would you agree that the audience thought your hip-hop sucked?
Performer: Yeah, they got a BADRAP.

Isn't POSTSUP the period between dinner and bed time?

I may be misreading some of you, but it seems like @Rex and many commenters hate (Baby bear?)/GESTATE because you're trying to work an ursine type bear into it. Neither the clue nor the answer has anything to do with that type of bear except as a misdirect. I agree with @Lewis 100% on this puzzle. Thanks, Brandon Koppy.

SharonAK 11:13 AM  

Compleely agree with Rex's burn of "offer"
Disagree with his take on the reveler . I liked the way it worked.

jberg 11:29 AM  

To all you folks complaining that SNO-WAY is not a well-known brand, lighten up! The clue tells you they make equipment for making the SNO(w) go (a)WAY, and even gives you the WAY part -- so what else is it going to be?

I shared Lewis's reaction to the revealer -- having SS where you were expecting TV just adds a little extra spice to the puzzle. I thought it was a positive feature.

@Nancy and others -- STUNT is a term of art in the PR business; it's something to do in order to get into the news when there's nothing inherently newsworthy. Every once in a while a conservative group decides to throw a copy of the tax code overboard from the ship that featured in the Boston Tea Party (actually, I think, a replica of the ship, now docked in the harbor as a tourist attraction).

noni 11:56 AM  

I sat there trying to figure out why SCIR was a kerfuffle. After I finished and didn't get the music, it dawned on me. SAUTE not SAUCE.

Whatsername 12:07 PM  

I liked the puzzle and always enjoy figuring out a rebus, but the theme didn’t really fly with me. I get that you’re doing SCREEN SHARES and then the T and V share a square. But being on-line and watching TV are not necessarily interchangeable activities so just seemed like a stretch. Speaking of baseball terms, OHFER was a total mystery. And what on earth is POSTS UP? I had RESTS UP there which made that area pretty tough to finish.

jb129 12:28 PM  

Oh will you look at Fenway's blue eyes :)
Not a fan of rebuses but aside from that, I didn't like this as much as the others. JEONG, ECHIDNAS, NERO & RUMI were a real stretch for me.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

Whatsername 12:36 PM  

We have a local nature center with folks who are great with birding advice, and they recommend providing a source of water if you want to attract new birds. So if you don’t have any luck you might try investing in a bird bath. I keep a heater in mine during the winter and they often splash around in it, even during some of the coldest days of the year.

jae 12:49 PM  

Mostly easy except for the SW where POSTS UP (Hi @Rex) was unfamiliar, PR STUNT took some staring, and where I had no FoR before OHFER and dolE before METE off the O in FoR. The rest was WOE and erasure free.

Fun solve, liked it.

Anonymous 12:57 PM  

Yes “post up” is very much in the language, at least for me and my social sphere. I was born in 1989 so maybe it’s a timing thing and Rex is too old and his students too young for it so it’s not on his radar.

Photomatte 12:58 PM  

Oof, I didn't get the rebus answers for awhile and it made the puzzle that much more tricky. When I think of TV, I think of television and all television encompasses. What it does not encompass, IMHO, are screen shares. For those who use that phrase, and who engage in that action, they're using their phones, their iPads, their laptops. They're not using their TVs (do younger folks - those who use screen shares - even own televisions?).
Also took me awhile to remember Phil Simms used to be an announcer; I knew it couldn't be Tony Romo (Nantz's current partner) but blanked on Simms. Speaking of football, Fly Eagles Fly!

smalltowndoc 12:59 PM  

I got the theme with TAYLORS VERSION. I don’t know any of her songs snd can’t abide the genre. However, her bad ass coup to (re)gain ownership of her work by rerecording it was big news.

I agree with Rex on several points. Clever theme, but a bit of confusion at the revealer. In fact, I was on my way to a personal best until I hit the SE. "MAGE"? Really? "MAGE"? I had to look that up after I finished and it seems a parenthetical (arch.) is required here. I don’t know if that would have made 53D easier, but it would have been more fair. Has it appeared in prior NYTXWs? Also, GESTATE. Just…no. The pun’s not punny when it doesn’t make grammatical sense.Also, WTF is WTA? And ESTATE is fair enough, but I was distracted by the presidential twist (would Mar-a-Lago work here? Ugh, sorry). SEE NOTE is also fair, but, for the life of me, I could only think of "SEE reference". (Does the period go inside or outside of the quotation mark; I never remember.

So, yeah, the SE was my undoing. Otherwise, very nice puzzle!

smalltowndoc 1:07 PM  

The reference is to Spelling Bee, a daily NYT puzzle. My daughter and I enjoy it and challenge one another to see who gets to the "Genius" level first. As you accumulate more and more correct answers, your rank increases: Solid, Nice, Great, Amazing, Genius, Queen Bee. Fun. You should give it a try.

Anonymous 1:23 PM  

I'm in my late 40s and say post up. It's a pretty popular description to say your just gonna chill right where you are.

Hugh 1:24 PM  

Early solve today! Liked this well enough- well…more than Rex did. The revealer did have me scratching my head a bit as well as that it just shared the same first letter “S” while the themers had the T/V thing going but it didn’t ruin the solve for me. The first to fall was Tunnel/Vision and that made the rest a pretty straightforward affair but I enjoyed the journey.
I NEVER would have gotten GESTATE without the crosses, the wordplay in the clue was just lost on me. Got a kick out of the cluing for DNA (cellular data) and as Rex said, POPSICLE was nice. Also enjoyed the couple of sports references and agree that spelling OHFERS this way seemed…well…off. Not quite as much bite as I’m used to in a Thursday but the ride was fun enough - several pegs above just OH,OK as I don’t want to get a BAD RAP for calling another puzzle dull, it’s not in my DNA to be less than NICE, ARE WE DONE here?

Dorkito Supremo 1:29 PM  

Exactly the same for me.

Uncle Bob 1:36 PM  

Did not know the sports meaning of POSTS UP. Thanks Rex. I assumed it was one of several clues trying too hard to be tricky and referred to a notice on a bulletin board (hi @king_yeti). Others 35A and 60A (agree with Rex).

Gene 1:42 PM  

In the baseball term, the "O" stands for zero, as Rex sort of explained. When you substitute the letter for the number, the accepted way to spell the letter as pronounced, is "OH". QED.

okanaganer 1:55 PM  

Like kitshef and others, just so many answers I've never heard of: JEONG, RUMI, OHFERS, POSTSUP, ECHIDNAS, ANDONE to name the worst. The theme was good but it was kind of ruined by those WOEs.

And I agree with SouthsideJohnny's comment about the clues: "these grids have so much potential, but the crew at the NYT can’t help but shoot themselves in the foot on a daily basis with these absolutely bizarre clue/answer combinations, which are totally self-inflicted and so unnecessary".

I had SAUCEPAN for ages, and I also tried to make COSTUME word for "Attention grabbing appearance". The STU part had me convinced!

Anonymous 2:06 PM  

It’s O-FER…full stop.

M and A 2:28 PM  

Puztheme revealer was A-OK-Fine at our house. Its clue said there were "three pairs" of the rebus square, so wasn't expectin an extra one. However ...
*Was* expectin a revealer I'd heard of before, like SPLIT/SCREEN.
Never heard of SCREEN/SHARES. I thought maybe after seein the neighborin COYEST [har], the revealer might get to be SPLITD/SCREEN. Wrong again, M&A breath.

staff weeject pick [of a miserly 10 choices]: ANI. Had a neat weird clue.

Fave stuff: Weeeird puzgrid symmetry. POPSICLES. SAUCEPAN & ELSE clues.
No-knows: JOBBOARD. JEONG. OHFERS. RUMI.

Thanx for screenin this one here, Mr. Koppy dude.

Masked & Anonymo4Us

and further more...

"UPS Christmas Deliveries" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

ChrisS 2:34 PM  

Not just broadcast partners but former (7-8 years ago) partners. Agree not spelled "ohfers", probably a "word" that should only be said aloud and written as "0 for" x

Anonymous 2:50 PM  

Wow Lewis thanks for that!

kitshef 3:13 PM  

That makes it even worse. Having a clue that specifically requires you to know something about a different NYT puzzle app is unfair. Now, I have done Spelling Bee, but had to quit because it constantly refused to accept perfectly normal words while expecting you to know every obscure food word that has ever appeared on a Japanese menu.

Anonymous 5:30 PM  

You have to wonder how half of these commenters are still alive. If I hated being exposed to new stuff this much I would have killed myself ages ago.

Gary Jugert 6:18 PM  

@Whatsername 12:36 PM
Water! D'oh. I should've thought of that myself. It's the desert after all. Birdbath is installed. 😉

Anonymous 6:25 PM  

@chriss 2:34pm Not sure what you're suggesting about Phil and Jim. They were broadcast partners. They were never dating each other. Please elaborate.

dgd 7:02 PM  

Kitshef
FWIW Arondelle (of the Disney universe) clue for ELSA
Elsa is now standard crosswordese. I never saw the movies but Elsa has appeared often and 4 letters Arondelle suggested Disney princess first try Elsa I am guessing you have seen it before but hate Disney clues and forgot it.
Post up is apparently millennial slang. I had no clue either.

Anonymous 8:51 PM  

Surprised (yet unsurprised) to find out BADRAP is not a debut, but has appeared on 9 previous occasions. A BUM RAP is an unfair sentence. A BAD REP is a bad reputation. A BAD RAP used to be nothing... but language evolves, and who wants to say "I got an unfair criticism!"

Cakes 10:11 PM  

What's funny is, I adored Sonic the Hedgehog games growing up, even stuck with them through the Dreamcast era, and that's the only reason I was able to get echidna with no crosses.. and yet I still agree with Rex re: my interest in seeing this movie, lol..

Anonymous 10:37 PM  

Yeah, really good puzzle & enjoyed it. First thing I noted in revealer clue was reference to THREE answers…lighten up, Francis.

Jeffrey Graebner 12:27 AM  

The Elsa answer might be easier for those that haven't seen the movies as her sister Anna takes over as queen at the end of the second movie, so I spent a little time figuring out which one they wanted from the crosses.

Anonymous 7:40 AM  

Hard to express how much joy it brought me to see Taylor’s Version as an answer! First understood the tv gimmick with tunnel vision and then the next tv… 🤯😃

Anonymous 7:06 PM  

Echidnas are in no way related to hedgehogs.

Anonymous 10:40 AM  

Great puzzle, but GESTATE and NERO had horrible clues, I must admit

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