Japanese game using pentagonal pieces / SAT 11-30-24 / Holiday honoring Lakshmi, the Hindu goddess of fortune / End result of a starter / One of 11 for Big Ben / Fired (up), in old slang / Nova preceder / The so-called "heart of the scorpion" in the night sky / Painting technique in which the artist applies new paint atop a just-painted layer / Color akin to amarillo / Cart for the Budweiser Clydesdales, e.g. / Jack ___, Best Supporting Actor nominee for 1940's "The Great Dictator"

Saturday, November 30, 2024

Constructor: Oliver Goodridge and Juan Garavito

Relative difficulty: Very Easy (though I finished with an error 😕)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: DIWALI (14D: Holiday honoring Lakshmi, the Hindu goddess of fortune) —

Diwali (English: /dɪˈwɑːl/), also called Deepavali (IASTDīpāvalī) or Deepawali (IASTDīpāwalī), is the Hindu festival of lights, with variations celebrated in other Indian religions such as Jainism and Sikhism. It symbolises the spiritual victory of Dharma over Adharma, light over darkness, good over evil, and knowledge over ignorance. Diwali is celebrated during the Hindu lunisolar months of Ashvin (according to the amanta tradition) and Kartika—between around mid-September and mid-November. The celebrations generally last five or six days.

Diwali is connected to various religious events, deities and personalities, such as being the day Rama returned to his kingdom in Ayodhya with his wife Sita and his brother Lakshmana after defeating the demon king Ravana. It is also widely associated with Lakshmi, the goddess of prosperity, and Ganesha, the god of wisdom and the remover of obstacles. Other regional traditions connect the holiday to VishnuKrishnaDurgaShivaKaliHanumanKuberaYamaYamiDhanvantari, or Vishvakarman. [...] 

Diwali is also a major cultural event for the HinduSikh, and Jain diaspora. The main day of the festival of Diwali (the day of Lakshmi Puja) is an official holiday in Fiji, Guyana, IndiaMalaysia, MauritiusMyanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Singapore, Sri LankaSurinameTrinidad and Tobago and in some US states. (wikipedia)
• • •

Don't know when I've done a Saturday puzzle so fast. Should've been a Friday (way way easier than yesterday's puzzle), but even on Friday, this thing would've played easy. Do you have any idea how fast ...


... I rounded ...


... the bases ...


... on this one?


Those long answers around the perimeter of the puzzle, while truly gorgeous, also made the puzzle ridiculously easy. You could pick most of them up from just a few letters, and once you picked one pair up, you had access to a whole other quadrant on the other side of the grid. And so on. And so on. I got the long Downs on the west side of the puzzle Without Ever Looking At Either Clue—I was basically trying to slow myself down by working short crosses rather than just looking at the longer clues, but the short crosses ended up being so easy that by the time I looked at either of them, I had "HEY BATTER BA-" and "HOMEMADE BR- already in place. Would've loved this on a Friday. And it's still good today. Just ... they really flipped the Friday/Saturday this week, and the misplacement was jarring, both times.

["She had a blind DATE WITH DESTINY"]

But wait! I left out one problem. Largely because I never saw the problem until I was finished. "Finished." Do you see the problem? I've got a wrong square in the last three grid screenshots (above). When I "finished" and didn't get the "Congratulations" message, I audibly "ugh"'d and then went searching. And searching. I went over the whole grid and then went straight to the answers I was least sure about, like SHOGI (a game I'd forgotten existed) (42A: Japanese game using pentagonal pieces) and ANTARES (a star of whose spelling I was uncertain) (12D: The so-called "heart of the scorpion" in the night sky). Never heard of WET ON WET, but all the crosses seemed to check (33A: Painting technique in which the artist applies new paint atop a just-painted layer). And finally I went back to DINALI. Maybe I'd misspelled the holiday. [Checks crosses ... checks crosses ... ] "Oh F--- Me, it's that stupid stupid quote clue, isn't it! [infinite swearing]." Man I hate fill-in-the-blank quotation clues. On any day, in any circumstance. Despise them. I'm always like "how the hell should I know what this stupid quote is?!" I hate quotations because there's a smug self-importance about them, a sense that they're supposed to be WEIGHTY, but they're always stuff you'd see in a Hallmark card or else stuck to a refrigerator door or office cubicle—something faux-inspirational and corny. Which this Emerson quote certainly is. "Nature always WEARS the colors of the spirit"??! Uh, no. It absolutely does not. I think they have an actual term for how wrong that is. It's called the "pathetic fallacy." Annnnnnyway, not DINALI but DIWALI. After I changed it and got the "Congratulations" message, I was so mad at myself. Why did DINALI sound so right? Isn't DINALI ... something? After a few seconds of musing, I had a sad, belated "aha"—DENALI. That's what I'd been thinking of—the mountain formerly known as Mt. McKinley. Oof. So disappointing to end things this way. Half mad at my own clumsy memory, and half mad at all quotation clues, everywhere, through all time. Why wouldn't Nature NEAR the colors of the spirit? Or TEAR them? Or BEAR them? Or FEAR them? Or HEAR them? Or even REAR or SEAR them, for ****'s sake?  


So that square killed me, obviously. Which was a real surprise kill, since, as I say, I finished quickly and triumphantly. Deadly assassin, that square. As for the rest of the grid, resistance was minimal. Spelling ANTAR-S and remembering SHOGI at all, piecing together WET ON WET, those took a little thought, as I said above. I know the phrase "petite AMIE" ("girlfriend"), but still needed many crosses to see it. The hardest bit to work out (not actually hard) was probably the OAKIE / STOREY bit. I misremembered the actor as Jack OATES (probably thinking of Warren OATES). This left me wondering what Big Ben could possibly have 11 of. Something ending in -RSY. Bah. Eventually, though, I remembered that the actor was OAKEY ... only I spelled it like that at first, which didn't help with the Big Ben clue at all. Tried a new spelling (the correct spelling, OAKIE), and saw STOREY immediately. I don't think of clock towers as having STOREYs. Ya got me there. Elsewhere, no. You did not get me. Piece of cake. Until the fatal DINALI finale. 


So far, I've focused on my own successes and stumblings, but I want to make sure I emphasize how truly beautiful the long perimeter answers are on this thing. The top two marquee answers are about as good a side-by-side pair as I've seen. "HERE'S A THOUGHT ... DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?" Those two set a fun tone that would continue all the way around the grid. I love that "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?" is followed (directly underneath) by "I'M BAD." Love the comical vanity. Love the DATE WITH DESTINY that ironically collides smack into "THIS ISN'T WORKING." Love the jaded, world-weary voice in the NE going "SO WHAT?" and "WOW ME!" Well, the puzzle did wow me. Before it humiliated me with the damn "W" square, it wowed me. Are there some infelicities? Perhaps. HUHS in the plural is unfortunate. That ÉTÉS / ABBRS / IDEATES section is less than lovely. The only place I've ever seen anyone IDEATE is in crosswords. Seriously, a word that would not exist without the generous support of Big Crossword. And running Jack OAKIE into a British spelling of "story" is maybe not the puzzle's finest hour. But still, when your marquees are this good, little blemishes here and there really don't mean a thing.


Bullets:
  • 18A: Export from Jamaica (SKA) — my condolences to everyone who confidently wrote in RUM
  • 35A: Longtime candy company based in San Francisco (SEE'S) — since I was born in San Francisco and grew up in Fresno, this company is very, very familiar to me. I know they're in the Denver airport. Not sure if they're farther east than that. I very much associate the candy with my childhood, with home, with California. Haven't seen them much (if at all) since I moved to Michigan and then New York.
  • 36A: Color akin to amarillo (ORO) — "amarillo" is Sp. for "yellow." ORO, of course, is "gold."


  • 41A: Fired (up), in old slang (HET) — LOL yes, I know this expression, how do I know this expression? Is HET an abbr. form of "heated"? Yes, merriam webster dot com says "dialect past of heat." Looks like this "old slang" is still in use (examples at the merriam-webster website include quotations from CNN and New York Times, both from the 2020s)
  • 48A: Nearly every third baseman and shortstop in M.L.B. history (RIGHTY) — since most infield throws are to first, and it's easier / more natural to throw across your body, particularly if your momentum is taking you away from first, as it often is for a shortstop.
  • 5D: Attacked, as a castle (STORMED) — have fun storming the castle!
  • 11D: End result of a starter (HOMEMADE BREAD) — if you got into breadmaking during COVID (or any time), then you probably made your own sourdough starter, a "live fermented culture of fresh flour and water," which combines with the natural yeasts in the environment to form a leavening agent.
  • 39D: Nova preceder (BOSSA) — So, not the exploding star, but just the word "nova," preceded by BOSSA in the musical term "BOSSA nova."
See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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102 comments:

Anonymous 5:53 AM  

Ideates- IBM had a commercial about 15 years ago that mocked it (https://youtu.be/ziOG_GHNVq0?si=svTCsSpBYsaL8pGG)

I’m sad I remember this

Conrad 6:27 AM  


I didn't find it as easy as OFL did, but it was certainly no harder than Easy-Medium for a Saturday.

Overwrites:
HilT before HAFT at 1A
Really wanted tsp for the recipe fig. at 22A, but DIWALI was already locked in at 14D

WOEs:
I'm familiar with "Petite" and I'm familiar with "AMIE," but not with the prhase Petite AMIE (20A)
Didn't really know LEE TIDE at 30D, but it's easily inferrable
The painting technique WET ON WET (33A)
The Japanese game SHOGI (42A)

Question about 31D: I have been told that "Big Ben" refers to the bell, not the clock or the tower, so is STOREY really appropriate?

Anonymous 6:39 AM  

This was my fastest Saturday ever! The long answers just fell into place.

Lewis 6:57 AM  

Oh, I so badly wanted [Handle of a knife] to be MACK.

Anonymous 7:03 AM  

That would have been awesome!

pabloinnh 7:10 AM  

WhenI was handing out quizzes that I thought were really easy, I eventually stopped saying "this is a piece of cake" and switched to "this has various cake-like qualities", which is how I felt about this one. Maximum Saturday whoosh, and tons of fun. Only real unknowns were SEES and SHOGI, DIWALI and OAKIE are vaguely FAMILIAR, and expressions like LEETIDE and WETONWET were obvious from the clues.

DOYOUKNOWWHOIAM is super obnoxious. My favorite reference to this came during a Red Sox game when announcer Jerry Remy was complaining about an imagined mistreatment by an underling of some sort, and fellow booth member Sean McDonough asked him "Don't they know who you think you are?". I've used that one.

Very nice Saturdecito, OG and JG. Old Geezers like me Just Go nuts for stuff like this, and thanks for all the fun.

Anonymous 7:14 AM  

I had a medium time on it. Slower than yesterday’s. The world seems right to me.

Didn’t know DRAY, SHOGI or Jack OATIE. (Not that that’s what slowed me down, the crosses were fair.)

Son Volt 7:14 AM  

Not sure I would go with very easy - but definitely on the softer side. That central diagonal broke up the grid and made it just tough enough for me at least. The longs are in the language and clean to parse - HEY BATTER and DATE WITH DESTINY are top notch.

FRED Eaglesmith

MAZY and ABBRS. are a little wonky. Loaded with gimmes - all the trivia was straightforward. Not a fan of IDEATES - the HARRY clue was cute.

MONO is the only way to listen to The Lovin’ Spoonful

Enjoyable Saturday morning solve. The tri-stacks in Anna Stiga’s Stumper today will provide all the edge this one didn’t.

Corcovado

Anonymous 7:38 AM  

I certainly did not breeze through like you did. Creates before ideates, tang before haft, in awe before aroar, rum before ska, fussy before messy, takes the wheel before takes the reins, detective [something] before delicatessens…. I think there were more. Sigh.

Klazzic 7:48 AM  

Rex: See’s Candy is still going strong in California. Warren Buffet bought the company a few years back.

SouthsideJohnny 7:49 AM  

I had a much easier time up north, and stumbled a bit down south. The triple stack of ABBRS, DRAY and HET just blew me away (and HARRY Styles was an unknown for me as well). So I had a big white whole in my grid snickering at me while I am staring at it and muttering HUHS. Other than that, I agree with OFL - there is no doubt this was easier than yesterday.

Today we also got treated to a neat Times Triple* of HET, SHOGI and OAKIE, which is always nice.

* Times Triple - a row of three answers that doesn’t contain any “real” words. Today we have HET (arcane), SHOGI (foreign) and OAKIE (proper name).

Lewis 7:53 AM  

What a gorgeous grid design, from the photo album corners, to that interior picture frame, each side of which consists of a pair of Very Longs. This design has never been done before in the Times.

And look at those lovely longs! Seven of the eight are NYT puzzle debuts, bringing verve to the box, and the eighth has appeared but once before. And they’re all appealing! Look at them! Furthermore, pairs of longs usually result in a mess of iffy crosses, but not today.

All this on a NYT debut by a pair who just recently – during covid – began solving Times puzzles. A puzzle accepted by a NYT team that is especially WOW ME when it comes to themeless puzzles. But how could they not take this?

I liked all the ee-tails: MESSY, SHOGI, RIGHTY, DIWALI, HARRY, WEIGHTY, STOREY. I love the word DEIGN. To my mind, DATE WITH DESTINY simply beautifies the entire grid. Furthermore, there was thrilling gallop along with brain-happifying pauses in filling this in.

All-RIGHTY then, this has sent me flying into my day glad to be alive, and that’s a precious gift. Thank you so much, Oliver and Juan, and oh, yes, I hope to see more from you, please!

Anonymous 7:56 AM  

Neither the bell nor the tower is officially called Big Ben, but as a Londoner it's clear you'd be referring to the tower itself. I was more annoyed by the fact that it clearly has 11 FLOORS, being an 11-storey building, but I'll admit this is getting into the minutiae of British English!

Unknown 8:01 AM  

I really loved the eight long answers. My only exposure to SHOGI was a line in the movie Midway a few years ago, when Admiral Yamamoto chastises his subordinates for a proposed attack that meant they "played too much shogi". Knowing nothing about Hindi holidays, I had to run the alphabet to get WEARS, but it seemed to fit.

Anonymous 8:05 AM  

You are correct and it is not

andrew 8:11 AM  

Now THIS was a WOWME puzzle! To have solid payoffs for clues such as “Say…” and “And…?” With very little of the annoying PPP or texting ABBRS? IMHO, one of the year’s best!

(LOL - Can’t get away from those damn initials IRL, even when posting about the joy of no Tweet Speak).

Thoroughly enjoyable!





Anonymous 8:12 AM  

And for me, the toughest Saturday in years. Over 30 minutes of trial and error to solve. I just could not get in the groove. I felt as if I was being asked guess what’s in my pocket. With that said, I thought the righty answer at 48 across was spot on and I learned something about a sport I have followed for 60 plus years. And, perfect timing since just a few days after the anniversary trade that brought Nettles to the Yankees.

mveedubs 8:17 AM  

Me too. DINALI/NEARS. UGH!

BOB MILLS 8:20 AM  

Had to cheat to get STOREY, SEES, DIWALI,and ADHD, but at least I didn't get a DNF. Can someone explain how the end of a starter is HOMEMADEBREAD? What kind of starter?

Anonymous 8:25 AM  

IDEATE(S) is a very real word and appears in my hard copy Webster's II New College Dictionary. A much stronger case can be made against AROAR. It is not in aforementioned dictionary and is not permitted in "Spelling Bee". It does appear in online "dictionaries".

Anonymous 8:26 AM  

Impressively put together, no junk, and several "whooshes" - enjoyed from start to finish. Stumbled in East: bad start there due to entering LOW TIDE . But overall a fun Saturday. Thanks, guys!

Anonymous 8:29 AM  

"I know they're (See's) in the Denver airport. Not sure if they're farther east than that."

In very recent years, See's has been opening pop-up stores during the Thanksgiving/Christmas/Hanukkah seasons in vacant stores in East Coast Malls (of which there are many) selling a targeted selection of candies for Holliday gift-giving (some of them pre-wrapped). Then they close up shop after the new year and return again in November.

Fred Rogers invariably went by Mister Rogers, nor Mr. Rogers.

mathgent 8:31 AM  

Not easy for me. I had heard HEYBATTERBATTER when playing sandlot baseball in the 40's but not since. The clue for DELICATESSENS is bad. WOWME is ridiculous. Very little sparkle along the tedious way.

SEE'S Candy is a tradition in our family. They had a store on Geary street, five blocks from where I was raised. It is still the default gift for birthdays. They have over 200 stores in over 20 states, including New York.

Their headquarters are in South San Francisco, which is not part of San Francisco. The two cities share a border but they have separate governments.


W.C. Durant 8:34 AM  

Had no idea that Hindus celebrated North America's highest mountain.

Or is it the GMC SUV they celebrate?

Who'da thunk it.

Dr.A 8:43 AM  

Fun one! Not hard for me either. Didn’t have to google anything. I did know Diwali, (lots of friends who observe!) SHOGI and OAKIE had no idea but thankfully the crosses worked out.

kitshef 8:43 AM  

It’s been a good week for puzzles; I like this one a lot. Easier than yesterday’s but that happens a lot on Fri-Sat.

Irene 8:50 AM  

Any Saturday that I can finish is an Easy. But my age gave me an advantage: I had no problem with Het Up or Jack Oakie.

Mike Herlihy 8:52 AM  

Sourdough starter is used for some homemade bread.

Mack 8:57 AM  

@Rex: WET ON WET is Bob Ross' style of painting. I was hoping to see a Happy Little Trees video posted. Oh well...
I am still happy to see you thought of the Princess Bride clip -- I had the exact same thought when I read that clue.

Visho 9:04 AM  

Sourdough starter.

DeeJay 9:04 AM  

Delicious puzzle. Amazing array of longs. Thank you!

Anonymous 9:12 AM  

JUST READ THE BLOG FFS

Unknown 9:17 AM  

'Het up' brought back fond memories of old Bert and I routines. Great Maine expression but does not really translate to Fired Up. More like hot and bothered

Smith 9:17 AM  

@Lewis

Me, too! And the A worked...

RooMonster 9:20 AM  

Hey All !
Mr Rex, unsure if I'll be the first to point out, but, I interpreted 11D, "End result of a stater" to mean starting a business from home, ergo HOME MADE BREAD. Unless, of course, you were being facetious.

Also, your "Easy" was my "Difficult"! Much tougher than YesterPuz here. Had the RUM in for SKA, LIT for HET, TERRA for BOSSA, TSP for AMT, CHUG for SWIG, little ERRors that slowed down progress in every area. Also TAKESTHEwheel, was also thinking TAKESTHEhelms, and really waiting for a blow-up on that plural!

Had LowTIDE in for a bit. sETONWET first. For the "cold cases" clues, the ole brain couldn't get off Hospital related things. Once I got DELI, let out a "nice misdirection there, constructor."

Last letter in was the W of DIWALI/WEARS. Heard the Happy Music, and did an air fist pump!

Challenging, almost giving up and cheating, satisfying solve puz today. Some great/misdirectional clueing, ala HARRY Styles clue and the DELI clue. Let out an OH WAIT a few times.

Now I have a DATE WITH Saturday. (Actually, have to go to work for a few hours, then grocery shopping...)

Happy Saturday!

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Smith 9:21 AM  

For some reason my brother, a dyed in the wool NYer, sends a box of SEES candies every Christmas. They're wonderful!

Easy puzzle, though I also finished with an error: SHOG_. Ran the vowels.

Other than that, easy-peasy. I thought I was so clever, dropping the long ones right in, but @Rex took the shine off that feeling.
Oh, yep, easy.


Anonymous 9:41 AM  

as a native californian and long time resident of the sf bay area (and having see's candy running in my veins - my grandfather knew mrs. see) i think of sees as a los angeles based company. the candy company in sf is ghirardelli.

Andy Freude 9:42 AM  

What’s more humbling than struggling through a tough Saturday puzzle? Finishing, at last, only to read Rex’s verdict of “very easy.”

Lots of great stuff in this puzzle, but not as cake-like for me as for Pablo.

DrBB 9:43 AM  

Easy-peasy but fun. I hate hate Hate when a super easy puzzle has a single gotcha. Long ago noticed that puzzles have a way of communicating their own difficulty level, so after a few fills you realize you needn't grope for something abstruse: if the answer seems obvious, it probably is. But then there's that one snag.... Grrragh! Didn't happen to me this time though. I thought of the pathetic fallacy too, but it's one of those literary TSKs that are far more often honored in the breach than in the observance. Emerson wasn't the kind to have any problem with it.

DrBB 9:48 AM  

Just a reminder to one and all that Rex's difficulty ratings are always **relative to expectations for that day of the week.** Still subjective of course, but for me a Saturday finish in < 15:00 counts as easy. At 13:21 this one's way under average.

Dan A 9:53 AM  

Nature WEARing the colors of the spirit is so Emersonian I didn’t think of any alternative. "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

alexscott68 10:03 AM  

No, the clue is definitely referencing sourdough starter.

Anonymous 10:03 AM  

Moi aussi!
webwinger

Anonymous 10:04 AM  

MAZY??? No such thing. I got HOMEMADE BREAD from crosses and still did not know what that meant. HEYBATTERBATTER? Thats from the stands. Not 'at home'.DIWALI, with a w or v, Is a gimme. Better clues ..
how about 'Earnings from self employment' would have made all the difference

Niallhost 10:15 AM  

Also a victim of the nEARS/DInALI square. Like Rex I was certain that dINALI was a thing (and it sounded Indian) but after checking the entire grid it was the only space where I could have gone wrong. Ran the alphabet in my head to see what it could be that nature always does. Tried bEARS, then fEARS, hEARS, (considered rEARS and sEARS but didn't enter), and tEARS until WEARS rang the bell. Cruised through the rest of the grid cajun style (30 Rock anyone?) except for the WSW. Not knowing baseball, I had entered "leftie" thinking that was likely and then considered RIGHTY but assumed it would also end in "ie" so was stymied there. Had iota before WHIT. Never heard of SHOGI. Thought a whole bunch of things could go before "...is it?" and never considered WHICH. Thought Eli might be EVE. You get the idea.

HEY BATTER BATTER next to HOMEMADE BREAD feels like it deserves a nod. I know it's not exactly accurate but close enough to feel like something. Was well on record time until WSW slowed me down, then a few minutes for DIWALI to fall. Finished in 26:00

Anonymous 10:20 AM  

I also noticed the slight error in the See's headquarters location, it's not in San Francisco proper. South SF doesn't even actually share a border with the City of San Francisco, Daly City and Brisbane are in between.

Anonymous 10:31 AM  

Yep. And his favorite is their peanut brittle…

Anonymous 10:40 AM  

And because of that, we have them in Omaha.

Carola 10:41 AM  

Man, not. easy for me at all. I had only one instant fill-in: DATE WITH DESTINY. The rest was a struggle - WHICH is a good thing on a Saturday. The wealth of lovely answers and fine clues made the brain-racking fun. Happy to be able to finish.

Dan 10:43 AM  

Love a Jerry Remy reference. One of the best.

Anonymous 10:51 AM  

Very nice double banger

Nancy 11:00 AM  

Quick. If you were a great writer and thinker like Emerson, what would you say?

"Nature always FEARS the colors of the spirit."
"Nature always WEARS the colors of the spirit."
"Nature always BEARS the colors of the spirit."
"Nature always SEARS the colors of the spirit."
"Nature always TEARS the colors of the spirit."
"Nature always HEARS the colors of the spirit."

You certainly won't get any help from the Hindu holiday.

I guessed wrong. Does it matter which one I chose? WEARS was my second choice, but the odds were stacked against me.

That was my DNF -- but it was far from my only dilemma. I struggled and FRETted everywhere: SO WHEN before SO WHAT. NO IT ISN'T WORKING before THIS ISN'T WORKING. GITS, then GETS before JETS for "leaves in a hurry, informally." IOTA before WHIT. TEA before SKA. And I bet dozens of you had HILT before HAFT.

And why, Nancy, why do you persist in reading and re-reading the same clues over and over like 25 times each while failing to read the clue at 13D even once? It's why I have no business ever entering a puzzle tournament -- my lousy eyesight is not the only thing slowing me down. There must be a secret to getting your eyes to explore ALL the clues at the get-go.

Should I bother to list the weird answers to unfair clues I found here today? ABBRS -- bad enough as an abbr -- needed an "e.g" after the "etc, etc" And the clue to HOMEMADE BREAD (11D) is beyond ridiculous. Who comes up with something like this?

Anonymous 11:02 AM  

Could someone explain the clue for HOMEMADEBREAD please? I’m young and stupid, so any help would be appreciated.

Anonymous 11:09 AM  

Rex already did that.

Anonymous 11:13 AM  

There is a See’s store in NYC - on 8th St.

egsforbreakfast 11:13 AM  

I'm sure that most people use MAZY all the time in lieu of "hard to navigate." In fact Magellan himself called the eponymous straits MAZY when asked how they seemed.

Isn't there a saying about making a SOWHAT from a silk purse or something?

WETONWET sounds like something to do with a "golden shower." Or lluvia de ORO for @Gary Jugert. Sounds MESSY in any event.

Haughty amnesiac walks into a bar and the bartender says "the usual?" Amnesiac replies DOYOUKNOWWHOIAM?

Congrats on a very fun debut, Oliver Goodridge and Juan Garavito.


puzzlehoarder 11:30 AM  

This took me 17 minutes longer than yesterday's solve so a perfect Friday to Saturday ratio for me.

HAFT is an SB classic and any day when I guess that the E comes before the U in FEUD is a banner day.

IMBAD popped up instantly but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to make that second B of 1D work. That was the section where I finished about the same time I realized "Styles" was a name.

DIWALI, ANTARES and SHOGI are the kind of answers that I can't get just off their clues but I know I'll recognize them when they show up and they did.

AROAR is a classic in the NYTXW but no good for the SB or Scrabble no matter how much I think it should be

This was a great debut and a fun solve.

Owen 11:30 AM  

I was one of the poor souls who started with "rum" for the Jamaican export clue, though I did manage to get to "ska" when I figured out "this isn't working", which sounds like an attempt at a pun.

"Ideate" is in the lyrics to the opening number from a musical I loved in high school called "The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee", so I was able to pull that out relative quickly, which helped.

Enjoyed the puzzle quite a bit! Agree though that yesterday's was harder.

Liveprof 11:33 AM  

Egs -- a very rare miss for you yesterday: With the Yanks down by a run late, manager Houk asks: CANBERRA pinch hit?

A 11:35 AM  

Finished slowly but surely and learned a few things along the way. If I ever encounter the word HAFT I’d forgotten it. Never heard buzzer beater and thought it might have something to do with Jeopardy.

DIWALI I did know, from seeing it on calendars and thinking “what a cool word” so no problem there.

Fun crosses -FRET/FRED and WEIGHTY/RIGHTY.

Semordnilap sightings for @Lewis - DRAY/YARD and TRAMS/SMART.

Hope @Egs does something fun with SOW HAT and SHO TAT.

What a fine treat seeing DELICATESSEN in its full form (in spite of the extra S). Take that, DELI! DELI-shmelly, I say.

Etymonline says DELICATESSEN is already plural, and is also already an ABBR:, 1877, "delicacies, articles of fine food," American English, from German delikatessen, plural of delikatesse "a delicacy, fine food," from French délicatesse (1560s), from délicat "fine," from Latin delicatus "alluring, delightful, dainty" (see delicate). As a store where such things are sold, 1901, short for delicatessen shop.

Ok, off to the farmers market for some DELICATESSEN. Here’s some morning cheer from birthday composer Ludwig Thuille, whose delightful Quintet for Piano and Winds I heard for the first time just last week. (If you were missing our crossword friend the oboe today you won’t be able to avoid him in this video.)

Liveprof 11:38 AM  

In "Love and Death," someone says to Woody Allen: "So you're the young coward all of St. Petersburg is talking about." And he replies: "I'm 27. That's not so young."

Anonymous 11:50 AM  

This is a case of personal familiarity, and doesn't indicate bad cluing. Having done far more bread baking than money making through the years, the clue (end result of a starter) immediately had me thinking of sourdough. It isn't fair to nitpick a clue just because it's outside one's wheelhouse. I dutifully fill in baseball clues twenty or so times a week while having never once seen or played the game. That's the nature of crosswording.

Anonymous 11:50 AM  

Hah! See’s started in San Francisco, and moved only later to SSF, The Industrial City, as it said in big letters on the south side of San Bruno Mountain. I’m not sure it actually has a border with SF, except with the Airport, which is owned by SF but in a different county.

Anonymous 11:54 AM  

Thanks, egs. Your comments are always HET and brighten my days

burtonkd 11:59 AM  

I think I fell into most of the same traps as others: rum>SKA, crEATED>IDEATED, wheel>REINS, terrA>BOSSA, sled>DRAY but kept an open mind and this turned out to be a quick and breezy Saturday solve.

I thought there was no way I would know an Indian holiday, but DIWALI came into focus after all. I agree with Rex about short quotes from famous people being not all there cracked up to be in many circumstances.

True stor(e)y - DOYOUKNOWWHOIAM: Said to the doorman at the Juilliard school by none other than Itzhak Perlman, and no he did not know who he was and wouldn’t let him OUT without his ID until another teacher with an ID vouched for him.

dash riprock 11:59 AM  

[PART 1 OF 2]

errrrrrrr (*Semi jackknife-into-180 from-yesterday sound*). whoaz.. nelly.

This episode played like laying meat on the footlong at the drive-through.. "gimme turkey, ham, pepperownn.. plus a double pastrami, bub.. make it snappy."

Not an errant guess (save crEATES, 29a, lickety righted after DIWALI, 14d) anywhere. HEY BATTER BATTER BATTER BATTER.. bang.. Tore the hide off the ball, just a few letters on the tee, laying the meats, every occasion.

And on track to squash Sat. best.. until. FFfff.

Wall, again, about 8 cells. And they were: 34d, ___D; 26d, HAR__; 30d, LE_T(u/o/I?)DE; 31d, ST_R_Y. With the relevant crosses. So, ackchooalee, 8 plus a (*Scooby ten-to-six "hrrrm?"*).

"REPEAT, WARP SPEED, MR. SULU." But the ship just ffarted.. Rip got pizzed, an' after 1 min of staring, moseyed off to the kitchen.

(Inciden'ally, Georgia/Georgia Tech last night, anyone? Oh em gee, 8 (EIGHT) OTs.. one fo' the ages.)

Hardly down the stairs, and "ohhh", _BB_S, 34a, is ABBRS. Rip uses the etc. et cetera all. the time and hunted for some Latin, lesser substitute. That no-sleep mode, RAM... processing... Spidey Sense, which you're not using for anything else anyway, subconscious tappets.. clicking.. that's why I say, take a break, AUTO-FAIL.. unless you keep the timer ticking. But who does that.

So then, HARRY, 26d, nice li'l misdirect. Def. know him, his singing, the tunes. And, HET ?, 41a, I guess ?? Because, ADHD, 34d ?? [..extended time..PSAT] ?? Is that a thing? And is it something people should know ? DRAY, 37a, I guessed early but jettisoned after I couldn't make sense of ABBRS or HARRY. Plus it seemed.. Saturdayish, or at least Friday, relative to all the rest. Very uneven.

That was the thing with these 8 cells, they weren't hard, they just weren't consistent with the rest of the game, bigly. Which threw Rip for a loop. Intentional? Iiii don't think so. It took me as long to suss these 8 cells as it did THE ENTIRE REST OF THE GAME. That's how it went.

Next, as a sailor.. Riprock loves the water.. I should have seen LEE TIDE immediately, but I was stuck on SHOGu, 42a, and, SE_S, 35a, huh ?? Believe I've seen that SF candy clue another time, but it's why Rip always sez, "NOT HERE TO LEARN," as unscrambling this random nonsense is not the way stuff sticks in my long-term database. Certainly not in any meaningful or interesting way.

[MORE SCREED, CONTINUED ->]

dash riprock 12:00 PM  

[PART 2 OF 2]

Anywho, that dropped, then at 31d, is that just the British STORy? I did guess that early as well but, again, the level of that clue, so different than 95% of the rest.. Also, I didn't know OAKI_ [Jack.. 1940..] and couldn't make sense of 36a, OR_, though it patently had to be a vowel, likely A or O. [amarillo].. is that a color in Spanish?

Ya see, that's the diff., people. BEL ESPRIT, PIED-À-TERRE, etc.-etc.-complaints, THEY ARE ENGLISH WORDS. AMARILLO, in this context, AIN'T.

So overall, mixed reaction. Thumbs down to two or three of the small fry. But.. better than yesterday. And slapping down the footlongs in succession.. felt very much in the zone.

Plus, Rip's not a game fashioner, nevah will be.. but anyone should be able to appreciate the elegance in making all the meat come together.

The Rex: Blather above finished, have just read your review. Thanks for sharing the final error and the sussin, cussin walk-through.

Feel the burn, that resonated. Also, Rip assumed you nevah made a mistake.. (at the tape).

Play mirrored yours, plus/minus the small (which made aforementioned issues for me).

And now that you spell out the HET context.. maybe.. mebbe. Rip's heard it, like when he was five. From his mom? Is that possible? Or did you just plant that in there. But my dictionary? Sez "archaic." Also, that odd ADHD/PSATest pair worthy of a mention from you. WTH is that. Second also, IDEATE/IDEATion is a thing among some in the arty instructor set.. and those in mid-level management. Ya, sounds an extra tight-sphinctered word for simpler alternatives. Hat-trick "also," I believe you intended to observe that 'storey' is the British spelling and that perhaps this messed with you. Right?

Final also, allow Rip this second presumption: Denali, beautiful, as is surrounding AK interior, visit. Take the missus.. the live images chiseled in your eye, you'll nevah make that mistake again.

jae 12:06 PM  

Yep, very easy. My take on this one is what @Rex said, it should have been a Friday.

No serious erasures.

I did know DIWALI.

A very smooth grid with a boat load of sparkle. This was a fun whooshy solve, liked it a bunch! A fine debut!

Anonymous 12:12 PM  

I think Rex missed that Emerson was not invoking but describing the operations of the 'pathetic fallacy.'' It's effectively the same point made by Ruskin when he introduced the term 'pathetic fallacy':

The state of mind which attributes to [the foam] these characters of a living creature is one in which the reason is unhinged by grief"— these lines work for Ruskin "not because they fallaciously describe foam, but because they faithfully describe sorrow."

Newboy 12:14 PM  

Oh @egs! ORO verdad😉

Relished the clues in a twisted fashion and enjoyed the multicultural mix from DIWALI to SKA to ORO to AMIS as a tacit recognition of the American MONOcultural mindset hinted at by 13A.

Tom T 12:40 PM  

Would agree with the Rex rating, except for the problem of three areas with very tricky, almost Natick-y crosses: DIWALI/WEARS (I had bEARS at first, considered hEARS, but eventually typed in WEARS); STOREY/ORO/OAKIE (did not know the British variation for one level of a building, thought ORO might be ORa, unfamiliar with Mr. OAKIE); and SEES/LEETIDE/WETONWET (although WET ON WET became a fairly easy guess and got me off LowTIDE, but didn't solve the SEES/LEE dilemma). The last letters entered were the O & E in STOREY, and the pursuant "Happy Music" made me Very Happy.

okanaganer 12:50 PM  

Sooo much faster than Friday, especially the upper left. A little more resistance for me in the lower right because of two typeovers: TAKES THE WHEEL (before REINS) and TERRA rather than BOSSA NOVA. Terra Nova is probably more familiar here in Canada because of the province Newfoundland (pronounced "Newfunland") which in French is Terre-Neuve which means "new land". Anyway,...

Hands up for wanting GHIRARDELLI for the SF candy company. Also CREATES before IDEATES.

But Rex is right, those long answers around the perimeter were fantastic! Any not too many names! (finally). Old Mister OAKIE is all by himself. And if aside from the nameification of some clues (eg for SEES, DRAY, STOREY) there are very few names at all.

jb129 12:56 PM  

Nope - not easy. But I enjoyed it. A lot. And determined not to cheat. Got me on MAZY, LEE TIDE, DIWALI, HOMEMADE BREAD, had Slug for GULP & still don't know what DELICATESSENS is all about (someone explain, please?). But I like
"run-on answers" like I always get the long, "hard" words first when playing SB not the little guys,, so I enjoyed this - especially on a Saturday.

jb129 12:58 PM  

Oh, ok - DELICATESSENS = where cold cases are opened - but it's still vague to me.

M and A 1:00 PM  

64-worder with stupendous longball answers. Agree with @RP, that all those longballs made the solvequest slightly easier. Also, havin only one ?-marker clue [at 1-Down] in the whole SatPuz mighta helped a bit, too boot.

staff weeject picks: "And..." & "Say...", clue-wise. AMT, answer-wise.

a few no-knows: ELI & SEES, as clued. DIEZ. SHOGI. DIWALI.
favest thing: HERESATHOUGHT. Runner-up: HARRY clue.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Mr. Goodridge & Garavito dudes. And congratz on yer fine debut.

Masked & Anonymo2Us

absolutely zero spam. 100% runtpuz:
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Anonymous 1:17 PM  

It was good Diwali was a gimme. It’s taken me a bit of living where I do but now I reliably hear people setting off fireworks in the fall and only say “what the heck?” once before remembering “oh yeah it’s Diwali.” Long crosses were great!!

Aelurus 1:35 PM  

I thought it hard but finished on my own. Agree it’s easier than yesterday’s puzzle, when I asked the app to reveal E, then S, then, oh well, the last S in _ _ _ENE and the first letter in the name A _ _ for AYI so I could finish the rest of the NW.

Also ran the alphabet on the 19A Emerson clue and chose W for WEARS as it sounded the most poetic.

@Lewis 6:57 – “Mack” would’ve been great for 1A!

Never heard the phrase HEY BATTER BATTER but guessed on my last unfilled square, the second B that gave me the ABBRS answer which was un-parsable to me until a second later, when the wonderful aha! hit. That made it my favorite clue/answer combo.

Loved the one-word long answer DELICATESSENS (hi, @A), figuring out that the third baseman and shortstop were each RIGHTY, not a MIGHTY combo, and the nice next-door-ness of HEY BATTER BATTER and HOMEMADE BREAD.

@A 11:35 – And thanks for sharing the etymonline’s take on the full version of “deli.” Am bookmarking that site next to my onelook.com dictionary go-to. Wrote my comment listening to your link to the Thuille quintet; just lovely!

@Pablo 7:10 – Thanks for the story leading to “Don’t they know who you think you are?” Hope I can use it sometime too!

Anoa Bob 1:43 PM  

We get some more Spanglish in the cluing with 21A "Number of fingers on dos manos" and 36A "Color akin to amarillo". And there's even some Frenglish at 27D "Hot times in la cité".

Couldn't help notice the grid fill got some POC (plural of convenience) assistance in this otherwise very fine puzzle. Several were uber helpful two for one POCs with letter count boosts from shared Ss at the ends of FEUD/WEAR, HUH/TRAM, ETE/ABBR and JET/SEE. Also of note to POC watchers, TAKE THE REINS also needed an extra S to do its job. Yeah, minor dings in this top notch offering.

All those Ws, eight of them, had me thinking this was a tribute puzzle of sorts to #43 Dubya.

Andy Freude 1:51 PM  

Five miles meandering with mazy motion
Through fields and vales the sacred river ran
Then reached the caverns measureless to man
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean.

—Samuel Taylor Coleridge, “Kubla Khan” (quoting from memory, which is sometimes hazy but certain here of “mazy”)

Liveprof 2:01 PM  

In Aug 2017, Frank Rizzo was shifted to third base from first by the Cubs in the ninth inning when they ran out of position players. It was the first time in over twenty years since a left-handed thrower played 3B anywhere in the major leagues and the first time since 1895 one had played for the Cubs, who were known as the Colts back then. Rizzo was only the seventh left-throwing third baseman in MLB since 1913, joining Mario Valdez, Don Mattingly, Terry Francona, Mike Squires, Charlie Grimm, and Hall of Famer George Sisler.

Shockdoc 2:24 PM  

I too am a big See’s candy fan. My wife is from California and the first time we traveled there from our home in PA she jumped out of the car while we were at a red light to race to the See’s store on the corner. For a short time we could find it in our local Wegman’s market but now I just order online.

MetroGnome 2:59 PM  

"Styles of singing" = HARRY? HUH??!!

okanaganer 3:04 PM  

@Aelurus: Ferris Bueller (hey batter batter).

Anonymous 3:08 PM  

Started with 1acoss and then worked the NW corner after that is was off to the races...

Sailor 3:17 PM  

Merriam-Webster.com defines "aroar" as a adjective with the meaning "roaring". I would be glad to see less of it, as it is a dated usage, but it's a legitimate word that is (sadly) more common in crosswords than IRL.

Whether a word is permitted in Spelling Bee is rather notoriously a product of the whims and predilections of Sam E. rather than any objective judgement of a word's legitimacy.

Anonymous 3:20 PM  

I went for Tang. Tsk tsk. Then hilt feuded with haft.

ChrisS 3:31 PM  

My thought about Ben as well. From Wikipedia "Big Ben is the nickname for the Great Bell of the Great Clock of Westminster and, by extension, for the clock tower itself, which stands at the north end of the Palace of Westminster in London, England. Originally known simply as the Clock Tower, it was renamed Elizabeth Tower in 2012 to mark the Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II. The clock is a striking clock with five bells.[5]"

ChrisS 3:33 PM  

My thought as well about Ben. From Wikipedia "Big Ben is the nickname for the Great Bell of the Great Clock of Westminster, and, by extension, for the clock tower itself, which stands at the north end of the Palace of Westminster in London, England.[4] Originally known simply as the Clock Tower, it was renamed Elizabeth Tower in 2012 to mark the Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II. The clock is a striking clock with five bells.[5]" Also thought "oro" was the metal and Dorado was the color.

Lewis 4:02 PM  

Good catches!

Anonymous 4:07 PM  

Anthony Rizzo

Anonymous 4:10 PM  

Frank was a Mayor of Philly

Anthony on first for Cubs then Yankees

Aelurus 4:20 PM  

@okanaganer 3:04 – Thank you for the Ferris Bueller clip at the Chicago Cubs game! Made me laugh because I only know they’re repeating “batter” because you told me so. I know some baseball lingo, but everything in that fast bit of dialogue sounds like a foreign language I don’t know. And I guess that’s so :) “Sowee, canidee”?

Gary Jugert 4:46 PM  

Cita con el destino.
Te dejo una idea.
¿Sabes quién soy?
Esto no funciona.

Great phrases and a mini short story. DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM is even funnier in Spanish.

Well I slogged through this and used an epic number of minutes. IDEATES, MAZY and ABBRS were dismal, but otherwise it was fine.

Propers: 3
Places: 1
Products: 3
Partials: 3
Foreignisms: 7
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 17 of 64 (27%)

Funnyisms: 2 😕

Tee-Hee: WET ON WET.

Uniclues:

1 Washed weed.
2 Result of hitting the mute button to silence Fox News.

1 LATHERED JOINT
2 RIGHTY PANG

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Pepperoni potentates and cannibal kings. MEAT LOVER CZARS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 5:28 PM  

Harry Styles, the singer

Anonymous 5:29 PM  

You also used to be able to buy them in Macy’s - don’t know if you still can.

pabloinnh 5:35 PM  

If you want to claim you're not responsible for something, like kicking someone under the table, you say "no soy yo", which I think is a philosophical problem.

Anonymous 6:20 PM  

13D messed me up for a while - I had TAKESCHARGEOF. And TERRA for 39D. But I finally saw the error of my ways.

Liveprof 6:34 PM  

Oops! Anthony, of course!

Anonymous 11:15 PM  

Brilliant

Anonymous 8:38 PM  

21 Across,
thought surely would have the correct but perhaps tricky answer, but nope...

how many FINGERS on dos manos? = OCHO
How many DIGITS? = DIEZ
8 fingers, 2 thumbs, always was an easy med school bar bet!

Anonymous 8:49 PM  

31 ACROSS number of fingers on dos manos,
I thought this might have the correct if marginally tricky answer, but no, just the incorrect answer:
# of FINGERS on dos manos = OCHO
# of DIGITS = DIEZ,
8 fingers, 2 thumbs, 10 digits!...an old med school bar bet still gets people, I guess

8 fingers, 2

Anonymous 8:52 PM  

21 ACROSS
No, OCHO "fingers" on dos manos;
DIEZ is number of DIGITS: 2 thumbs, 8 fingers, old med school bar bet still looks like it catches people

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