A&E docuseries with footage of criminal trials / SUN 6-11-23 / Related to part of the small intestine / Beer brand with a bicycle in its logo / Harmful aquatic overgrowth / Boxy window installation in brief / Trio in a Latin learner's lesson / Elicitors of some blessings / Sound record label co-founded by Drake / Flower whose name sounds like a branding iron

Sunday, June 11, 2023

Constructor: Sam Ezersky

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: "Words, Words, Words: A Themeless" — so, no, no theme

Theme answers:
  • nope 
Word of the Day: CALLALOO (33D: Caribbean stew) —

Callaloo (many spelling variants, such as kallaloocalaloocalalloocalaloux or callalloo; Jamaican Patoispronounced kalalu) is a plant used in popular dishes in many Caribbean countries, while for other Caribbean countries, the dish itself is called callaloo. Cuisines including the plant Callaloo or dishes called callaloo varies throughout the Caribbean. Countries like Jamaica and Belize refer to an indigenous green leaf vegetable, Caribbean amaranth, as callaloo. In countries such as Trinidad and Tobago or Grenada, the dish itself is called callaloo, and uses taro leaves (known by many local names such as 'dasheen bush', 'callaloo bush', or 'bush') or Xanthosoma leaves (known by many names, including cocoyam and tannia).

Since the leaf vegetable used in some regions differs, some confusion can arise among the vegetables with the dish itself. This, as is the case with many other Caribbean dishes, is a remnant of West African and Taino cuisine.

Etymology of the word callaloo can be traced to Caribbean Patois, with influences from the African word kalúlu. (wikipedia)

• • •

I'm just never gonna get the appeal of these ("these" being themeless Sundays). And this one seemed particularly joyless and sloggy and ... off. SHRUBBY? What are we doing here? Nothing that anyone does in a 21x21 puzzle is ever going to seem special or interesting because the canvas is 21x21, i.e. huge. So what? Big answers, who cares? And these big answers aren't even that great. COGNOSCENTE? With an "E" at the end? (i.e. in the singular??). DAIKON RADISH? Isn't that redundant? Are there non-radish daikons? Is there, like, a DAIKON TOMATO? ELEPHANT? BARCALOUNGER? And SOLD AS IS? How is this different from ... just ... AS IS? (44A: Price tag caveat (buyer beware!)SET A LIMIT : EAT A SANDWICH :: WON THE WAR : ATE THE SANDWICH. KOOPAS? TURNA? Which part of this grid am I supposed to like? ACUNIT crossing ... ACU? DID OKAY with the ridiculously fully spelled-out OKAY? You get someone on staff to do a Sunday themeless placeholder, why? Are submissions really that bad? That low? The whole enterprise feels insulting. Even the title feels insulting. "We couldn't be bothered to think of a clever title, so here you go, 'Words, Words, Words' ... it's Shakespearean, I think. Who knows? Enjoy!" I mean, JUNKETING, really? Please don't tell me you enjoyed JUNKETING. The worst part of the grid, for me, was ALGAL BLOOM, specifically, the second "L" in ALGAL, my lord. If you have no idea (as I had no idea) what the name of the "heroine" is in "To All the Boys I've Loved Before," then SARA JEAN seems pretty damn reasonable, so ... yeah, I had ALGAS BLOOM. I mean, it's bad, but is ALGAL BLOOM ... good? I think I even saw the first "To All the Boys I've Loved Before" movie, and liked it, but the name of the "heroine" — nope, no memory. No way. ALGAL, yeesh. One of the worst bits of fill Of All Time and you decided to implicate it in a terrible cross? AMO AMAS AMAT ... is 3x crosswordese supposed to undo the crosswordese? I find this entire thing completely baffling. I need to GET SOME AIR


Seriously, I can't really "credit" any of the answers here because there's so much room, and software makes themelesses so much easier to create now, that I don't know what's to "like" or "not like." KID ACTORS? I'd say no, you mean CHILD ACTORS, but ... OK, shrug, I dunno, if your software wordlist says so, sure. In any puzzle, themeless, themed, easy, hard, you name it—in any puzzle, it's gonna be hard to like the CHRONO OVO BOCA AROOM conglomeration. I like FAT TIRE (81A: Beer brand with a bicycle in its logo). I like GET SOME AIR. I like BARES ALL reasonably well. But overall, I don't see what there is to love about something like this. Everything is fine, it's all fine, but so what? There's nothing special, no personality. I'd rather have a themed puzzle that is at least *trying* to do something than whatever this is. I know there are those who are great defenders of the Sunday themeless. To me, it just feels like giving up.


Random stuff:
  • 21A: Flower whose name sounds like a branding iron (RED HOT POKER) — this is a decent entry. I first saw / noticed these for the first time in New Zealand this past winter, which is to say summer (winter here, summer there—it was late December). They're a pretty common decorative plant there. They provide nectar for TUI, an iconic NZ bird I wish I saw more of in the NYTXW. The flowers look something like this:
  • 58A: Port city in Spain's Basque Country (BILBAO) — I would not know about this city were it not for the fact that there is a Guggenheim museum there. It's got that distinctive Frank Gehry design. If you know the Disney Concert Hall in L.A., then you know what I'm talking about. Here's the Guggenheim BILBAO:
  • 6D: A&E docuseries with footage of criminal trials ("COURT CAM") — what on god's green earth? Had the COURT- part and then nooooo idea. Trying to imagine watching any "A&E docuseries," let alone this voyeuristic courtroom stuff ... Nope, can't do it.
  • 32D: Ivy seen among cliffs (CORNELL) — I go to Ithaca all the time (going today, in fact, to Cinemapolis, to see "Sanctuary"). Familiar with the gorges (you see "Ithaca Is Gorges" t-shirts around town). "Cliffs," huh? I dunno. OK, Sure. I guess that's what the sides of the gorges are, technically.
  • 36D: Marine animal that resembles a flower (SEA LILY) — I'm guessing this is some kind of ... what, mollusk? I dunno. Hang on ... nah, they're crinoids. 
Crinoids that are attached to the sea bottom by a stalk in their juvenile form are commonly called sea lilies, while the unstalked forms, called feather stars or comatulids, are members of the largest crinoid orderComatulida. Crinoids are echinoderms in the phylum Echinodermata, which also includes the starfishbrittle starssea urchins and sea cucumbers. They live in both shallow water and in depths as great as 9,000 meters (30,000 ft). (wikipedia)
  • 76D: Burglar, in older slang (YEGG) — grateful for the opportunity to post one of my favorite vintage crime fiction titles:
  • 77D: Neighbors of Afghans (TAJIKS) — if I had to name all the -stans, I think I'd name Tajikistan last. It's the Delaware of -stans, in that respect.
Hope you liked this more than getting burned with a RED HOT POKER. See you when I see you.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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130 comments:

Ken Freeland 12:15 AM  

LMTR (liked more than Rex)... As a themeless, I cannot give it all five stars, but it had a certain solidity to that seems absent from mist NYT Sunday xwords. The PPP count was reasonably low, and not much crosswordese, so I'll take what I can get...

jae 12:20 AM  

Easyish. Contrary to Will’s note about Sam this was not very tough. The cluing was mostly straightforward with only a couple of “?” clues. A smooth, pleasant and breezy themeless, liked it a bit more than @Rex did.

cell mate (my second grid entry) before COAUTHOR was it for erasures and was quickly fixed by ORL.

Anonymous 12:24 AM  

I don’t always agree with Rex but this was a slog of a Sunday.

Joe Dipinto 1:04 AM  

When I opened the magazine, looked at the grid, saw the title, and read the note, I thought:

Oh boy, time to do something else! No way am I wasting my energy on another themeless Sunday puzzle.

The cryptic was interesting in that the whole left side slid in easily, but then the right side suddenly seemed to get tougher. Still have a few answers to get.

El Gran Jugador 1:55 AM  

See also vintage Bugs Bunny “Easter Yeggs”

DavidP 5:42 AM  

What about the (re)repetition of TOE? Oy!

Anonymous 6:23 AM  

I have been a surgeon for over 30 years. I have operated on the ileum many times. I teach at a medical school. I have never seen the word ILEAC.

Johnny Whirlwind 6:26 AM  

AMO, AMAS, AMAT -- I came, I filled, I faltered.

Darren 6:26 AM  

Completely agree with Rex. No joy at all in this Sunday. Easy and boring.

Wanderlust 6:34 AM  

Hilarious that CALLALOO is in a Sam Ezersky puzzle. Sam is the Spelling Bee guy, and this is one of those SB words that shows up all the time because of the few and very common letters. I wish he would have gotten RATATAT and PITAPAT and COATI in too.

Agree with Rex. A DNF in a different place than Rex’s. I’ve definitely heard of ALGAL BLOOM but I thought it was ILiAC and CORNiLL must be some kind of ivy that grows on cliffs.

How many of us had loCustS before CICADAS?

JD 6:52 AM  

A lot of fun stuff here. Bad Odor, Get Some Air. Call Log? No, Call A Loo! How to act Sealily? Balance a ball on your nose. Phosphates can deteriorate into Stophates. Just Kidding! Enjoyed it.

Gary Jugert 7:07 AM  

Well, that's done. I doubt I will ever understand the appeal of themeless puzzles. You fill them in and ta-da, that's it. Especially on a sloggy, albeit reasonably straightforward, and generally humorless Sunday. It's early summer, so our slush pile editor is probably vacationing with his mom and dad in Cape Cod, hence the low level of tee-hee-ery and a week long effort to underachieve consistency-wise.

The idea behind a themeless, theoretically, is to minimize the typical crummy fill required in more complicated construction, so when you run into ILEAC, TSURIS and ALGALBLOOM, those things make you go hmm.

I think there are too many -onyms these days.

Tee-Hee: BARES ALL

Uniclues:

1 "Sorry, can't, giving cancer today."
2 CA
3 What Clarence Thomas apparently thinks he's doing.
4 Chocolate Chips for Beginners.
5 🛑😡
6 Billionaire Charles titillated by crew.
7 Stupid boys with bad haircuts on the internet.

1 TOBACCO HAS PLANS
2 CO-AUTHOR BACKRONYM
3 JUST-KIDDING JUNKETING
4 SEMI-SWEET INTRO CLASS (~)
5 STOP HATE IN SHORT
6 OARSWOMEN STIR KOCH
7 HASHTAG SHRUBBY DUMBS

Anonymous 7:13 AM  

Absolute garbage.

GAC 7:35 AM  

Sort of agree with Rex on this one. But enjoyed solving it until I encountered ALGAL bLOOM crossing MS.COVEY. EARA seemed like a good enough name since ALGAe was so familiar and embedded in my memory banks that I could never question it.

Conrad 7:39 AM  


Where I live there are a lot of lakes. Some natural, some manmade, but most used for swimming, boating and other summer fun. For the last few years, many of our lakes have been plagued by HAB, or Harmful Algae Blooms, which end up closing the lake beaches to swimming, waterskiing and sometimes even boating. It's definitely ALGAe, not ALGAL, at least according to the New Jersey Department of Health.

Other than that, an OKAY (72A) puzzle. I got the "B" in White House daughter at 19A and confidently filled in Bush. I quickly figured out that wouldn't work so I put in OBAMA but then had the mAlia/SASHA kealoa.

What @Wanderlust said about ILiAC/CORNiLL. I associate Cornell with water rather than cliffs, because "Cayuga's waters." If there isn't a cornill ivy, there should be.

Son Volt 7:42 AM  

Extremely low word count in a Sunday sized grid - after two good themeless days this is just misplaced. Simple and straightforward - and boring.

Isn’t ACHOO a BACKRONYM - the crossing is stellar.

Agree with others on the nuanced similarity to the SB.

MULL of Kintyre

Lewis 7:52 AM  

I’m a fan of NYT Sunday themelesses. The NYT does them right, IMO. First, the puzzles are well spaced out, thus novel, like the occasional Wednesday rebus, which I also like. And second, they’re made by the best of the best. For instance: Patrick Berry, Byron Walden, Robyn Weintraub. Whether the Times assigns these or just sets the bar high, I find them to be drenched with quality.

Today’s puzzle was remarkably fresh with its boggling 28 NYT debut answers. Freshness gives a puzzle verve, spark, the patina of newness. My brain comes alive when it encounters a raft of new answers, when a puzzle doesn’t feel like Autofill City. And it came alive today. This outing had such a sweet feel, like I was biting into a perfect apple. I was brimming with happiness as I coursed through it.

Making the lowest-word-count Sunday ever is an impressive stunt requiring remarkable skill -- Bravo, Sam! -- but if the stunt doesn’t result in a pleasurable solve, it shouldn’t be done, IMO.

I’m glad this one was. It was, to me, a sterling standout – polished, and shimmering with spark. A beaut. Thank you, Sam, for another sublime addition to your oeuvre. I adored this!

Anonymous 7:58 AM  

Generally they're referred to as algal blooms. That's because they're a bloom _of_ algae. Try it with an animal and it's more obvious:
- Cats bloom <-- weird
- Feline bloom <-- still weird, but at least it makes sense!

Quite possibly some regions refer to it as "algae blooms" as a simplification though?

CJ Smith 8:01 AM  

Etymology Online says that COGNOSCENTE is an archaic word whose peak usage was 200 years ago. The way it’s clued is meant to refer to its adoption by English speakers, but who uses the singular? How many non-Italian speakers even know the singular?

Anonymous 8:06 AM  

Just want to say that when referring to the ileum, the part of the small intestine, the correct word is ileal. When referring to the ilium, the bone in the pelvis, it is iliac. It is never ileac or ilial. As the son of an orthopedist and a practicing gastroenterologist, that absolutely drove me nuts and I had to get it off my chest. Thanks

SouthsideJohnny 8:07 AM  

I had mixed feelings about this one. A lot of the clue/answer combinations were Tues-Weds difficult, which helped me keep the momentum going. I know very little about foreign languages and I usually get about 10% of the PPP (I.e. the sports stuff, lol - I knew BART STARR in this one, for example) so a lot of it just looks like gibberish which feels like I’m just slogging my way through a lot of random stuff like ANAKIN, AMOAMASAMAT, KOOPAS, SCOOB, BILBAO, YEGG and TSURIS. I guess I’m just not at that level where I can enjoy solving that much “on faith”.

Last week when Robyn graced us with one of her gems, I congratulated her on her “craftwomanship”, so nice to see OARSWOMEN make an appearance today - maybe I’m learning something new after all.

kitshef 8:20 AM  

Easy Sunday. Since I so often don't like Sunday themes, you'd think I would like it when we get a themeless. And yes, often a themeless is better than the average Sunday themeless. But maybe 5% of the time the Sunday theme really hits, and each themeless is just another week we have to wait for a great puzzle.



Also, wondering if anyone knows of the status of Masked & Anonymous. Have not seen a post.

Anonymous 8:21 AM  

TS_RIS x M_LL was just brutal. Never heard of either of them, and many different vowels fit.

Everything else was fair.

Kent 8:23 AM  

I like a themeless Sunday on occasion, and this was a good one, imo. I don’t disagree with Rex’s criticisms of many individual answers, but I think there was more to like here than dislike, especially in the top half. Enjoyed the clue for COAUTHOR, enjoyed learning the term BACKRONYM, and WENT TOE TO TOE was a nice long answer.

My initial thoughts on 84A were the same as Rex’s - I’ve only ever seen daikon. But per Wikipedia: “In culinary contexts, daikon (Japanese: 大根, lit. 'big root') or daikon radish are the most common names in all forms of English.” So I can accept it.

kitshef 8:29 AM  

@Joe DiPinto - for me the Cryptic was top easy, bottom a bit more challenging.

andrew 8:33 AM  

Glad to see my 8th grade Latin paid off, finally.

Does throwing in three Latin loves STOPHATE? I think not.

ODIO, ODERUNT, ODIT.

I hate, you hate, he/she/they hate this puzzle.

And COMPLETELY agreed with Rex’s write up this time (sucking up in the hope that maybe today he’ll allow my comment to be posted and stay up a while, unlike 4 of my 5 attempts yesterday)…

Bob Mills 8:39 AM  

Finished it with one error...I had "SaraJean(Covey)' instead of LARAJEAN. Sam Ezersky used some far-out cluing (or maybe he left the cluing up to Will Shortz). "Ivy seen among the cliffs" became CORNELL ("Far above Cayuga's Waters..." etc.) OARSWOMEN was hard to find, but legit, and INTROCLASS was very cleverly clued (as in Psych. 101), although it might have been nicer to suggest a college course in the clue.

All in all, a standing ovation for Sam. This was a Sunday puzzle without the usual trickery. Just a tough battle, but fair, the way Sunday puzzles used to be in bygone days.

Mr. Grumpypants 8:42 AM  

Too many ridiculous crosses of weird stuff.

Dr.A 8:56 AM  

Ok, my biggest what the heck moment in this puzzle was ILEAC. That is NOT a thing. If you are talking about the small intestine, you use ILEAL and if you are talking about the bone in your pelvic girdle, you use ILIAC. But I have never seen anyone use ILEAC. Ridiculous. In addition to all the things you mentioned. I was very annoyed with this puzzle by the end, and who ever heard of a Sunday theme less? Bo-Ring. The whole fun of it is some cute theme.

Paul S 9:00 AM  

Thank you! I am commenting for the first time ever because I have never been so out of synch with the concensus. I thought this was fun and had a lot clever clues. As for ALGAL and ILIAL, those were not my first guesses. But isn't that what the crosses are for? They certainly aren't words no one has heard before. In any case, my dog got a nice long walk and I was happy solving this one.

bocamp 9:04 AM  

Thx, Sam; solid Sun. offering! 😊

Easy-med.

Pretty much breezed thru this one. On S.E.'s wavelength most of the way.

Themeless no prob for me. A xword is a xword.

Only two slight holdups: ALGA(L)BLOOM / (L)ARAJEAN and FAT (T)IRE / AMA(T).

Always seem to have trouble sp TOBACCO.

Learned CALLALOO from the Sam's SB.

Enjoyed the journey! :)
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Sat. Stumpers: Success in 2hrs.; SE was a bear! In fact, it seemed to take forever to get any foothold at all. Thx to Lester Ruff for the challenge. :)
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On to Fred Piscop's cryptic on xwordinfo.com
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness, Freudenfreude & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

GolabkiGirl 9:09 AM  

If anything ever did not feel like a Sunday puzzle, this was it. Besides the overly-contrived clues (I kept asking “is that really a thing?”), there was little challenge. And yeah I hate themeless, too.

Nancy 9:13 AM  

It's not just me. It's Google, too. Google changes ILEAC to ILIAC every time. Good for Google. ILEAC is wrong -- as I knew when I ever-so-reluctantly wrote it in.

There's a flower known as a RED HOT POKER? Sounds lovely. Can't wait to put a few in my vase.

There's a beer called FAT TIRE??? What an appealing name. Have they sold even four of them yet?

What on earth does COURTCEM mean?

Why is 17A a "BACKRONYM" rather than a normal acronym?

Yes, there are WORDS, WORDS, WORDS in this puzzle -- and I found many of them quite peculiar. Still, not to TOOT my own horn, I DID OKAY and managed to FINISH.

creosote 9:15 AM  

FYI algal blooms are a thing. It's just what they're called.

Joe Welling 9:23 AM  

I mostly agree with OFL on this one, but WON THE WAR, as clued here, isn't in the category of EAT A SANDWICH. It means won in the end after initial setbacks. Sort of like, "I may lose the battle, but I'll win the war."

L 9:24 AM  

The Scrambled Yeggs 😂
That made my day.

Gary Jugert 9:33 AM  

@kitshef 8:20 AM
Yeah, WTF. Does @M&A think we can add U without him? He's one of my favorite peeps around here.

RooMonster 9:53 AM  

Hey All !
Well, hmm. A Themeless SunPuz that lets you know right out of the gate that yes indeedy, it's a Themeless. That actually soured the puz for me from the get-go. If I don't know it's a Themeless, but discover it later whilst solving, I don't mind it so much. It's like, "Oh, I guess it's a Themeless, alright." But by then I already have a bunch of stuff filled in. Give me a title like "Cruciverbilandia" or something. Don't just come right out and say, "Hello there! I'm a Themeless!"

My two cents.

Puz was OKAY for being non-themed. Lots of longer answers, light on junk. Fairly easy/quick.

I get the gender equality thing, I do, but is OARSWOMEN really a thing? If you have a woman (or more) rowing your boat, wouldn't the term OARSMEN still apply (albeit sexist, but like I said, I do get it.) Just sayin'. What about OARSPEOPLE? OARSX?

There's FATTIRE beer, with NATTY on top of it. A missed opportunity to clue it with another beer. ___ Ice (informal name for a minor beer), or somesuch. 😁

Always remember KANT from Monty Python, so thanks for that, Eric Idle.

I count 28 Doubles, one being a triple, CALLLOG. Seems high for a SunPuz. Maybe not. @Lewus?

Now to go back and get stuck on Ezersky's other puz.

Go Knights Go!

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Photomatte 10:03 AM  

YEGG? Has anyone used that word since the days of Sherlock Holmes? Yowza. I agree with Rex on daikon radish; it is redundant. Similar to saying Philly Cheesesteak (is there a London Cheesesteak or a Tokyo Cheesesteak? No); it's just cheesesteak. As for red hot poker, I only know it by its Latin name, kniphofia. I don't remember seeing them in NZ, however.
Fairly easy Sunday except for YEGG, TSURIS and COGNOSCENTE. Seems like some know-it-all (SMARTY) threw those in to spice up the CALLALOO today

Anonymous 10:10 AM  

Rex, I was depending on you to complain about the TOENAIL/TOETOTOE duplication. If I cannot depend on you, who can I depend on to be cross about such things?!

Smith 10:13 AM  

First time ever could not find error and resorted to reveal puzzle! Shocking, because I attended CORNELL, but there was the error because I was sure it was ILiAC. But, but, really, cliffs??? Gorges are not cliffs. The word cliff includes in its meaning the one sidedness. Cliffs of Moher, oh yeah. White Cliffs of Dover, sure thing. Cliffs in Ithaca, not. If they're on both sides you have a fjord or a canyon or a gorge. In NJ, Ken Lockwood Gorge, not cliffs. What about the sides of Canyon de Chelly? Not cliffs, it's a canyon!
So I think no fair, but that's just MHO.

Smith 10:13 AM  

Forgot to add, it's definitely ALGAeBLOOM.

Mary McCarty 10:16 AM  

@Andrew (8:33) oops…it’s ODISTI for “you hate’. (ODERUNT is “they hate”) Weird ODdity that the verb exists only in perfect tenses…why? I forget. Maybe it’s an action that’s “done, finished”. Certainly not progressive. Cf. “Odi et Amo” shortest poem by Catullus.

Neil 10:17 AM  

Don’t understand all the hating on ALGALBLOOM. This is not like an obsure name…its a common term, at least for anyone who lives near water of any kind.

Mary McCarty 10:20 AM  

What about the double SHORTs in 18A , 97A? Somebody trying to get on Will’s good side? Or, maybe, pointing to the numerous doubles we’ve had lately and not-very-SMARTY editing?

Mac Becket 10:21 AM  

I enjoyed this puzzle. It all went pretty quickly - was thinking it was too easy for a Sunday, until I got snagged by algaebloom Earajean - after an "s" didn't work, struggled to come up with the "l" and finished in a pretty fast time for me. And I love Fat Tire Ale, so it was fun to see that.

c. gallagher 10:27 AM  

I was happy with the puzzle, but prefer a themed. Enjoyed SORRIER, SAD LOT, and SASHA OBAMA, but not SHORT HAUL or IN SHORT. Does anyone else wonder what Rex will think of/say about individual answers while you're doing the puzzle? We know he won't like it for some reason or other, but I wonder what he won't like and how much he won't like it as I'm solving.... Still love Rex - always check Rex!

Anonymous 10:28 AM  

College town was just south of the [Cornell] campus; all you had to do was cross a stone bridge spanning one of the deep gorges students were famous for flinging themselves into. This was called "gorging out."

Jonathan Rosen, "The Best Minds" (p. 79).

Liveprof 10:34 AM  

@Nancy. It's a backronym because they decided on CARES first and then came up with the words to support it. The effect of acronyms and backronyms are the same -- it's their origin stories that distinguish them.

Another backronym is the USA PATRIOT Act. They knew they wanted that to be what the law was called, so they thought up: Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001. Rolls right off the tongue, no?

egsforbreakfast 10:42 AM  

@Nancy 9:13. A COURTCeM is a cemera used for teking videos of whet heppens in court.

Did anyone read Tom Robbins widely panned sequel, SKINNIER YEGGS and ORL?

How’s your business of being paid for providing siblings going?
Welp, I SOLDASIS.

Even though I’ve read the Aeneid many times, I never realized that the Queen of Carthage had a middle name. But if LARAJEAN is an acceptable answer, I guess DIDOKAY is as well.

I’m glad I didn’t read the note prior to solving, or I probably would have eaten a sandwich instead. I’m with Rex on this one.

Pete 10:46 AM  

@Rex - What you liked about that cover was the title? Ok. I was more interested in something else about it.

@ILEAC is Wrong!! folk - Webster's disagrees. It's not wrong, it's just bad.

Is the lack of a theme better of worse than the presence of a boring theme? Discuss. I vote for the prior. The problem with this puzzle isn't that it's a themeless, it's that Sam was on a mission to make this puzzle have the fewest answers ever in a Sunday Puzzle, the quality of the answers be damned.

@Nancy - A BACKRONYM is an acronym where they made up the long name to make to fit it to a word. SCUBA isn't a backronym, the had the name Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus which generated the gibberish SCUBA. For CARES, they made up the long name so that its acronym would be a normal English word, and a suitably catchy one.

@Conrad - As a fellow NJ-ite, ALGA[e] is the least of the things that NJ gets wrong. It's ALGAL BLOOM, as algae isn't the issue, the BLOOM is the issue. FL is suffering a Sargassum bloom right now, among other things.

Jim in Canada 10:46 AM  

re: BACKRONYM is a thing where you come up with the acronym before you name the thing it represents. So you come up with CARES first, then finagle the name of the thing to make sure it fits the word you want.

re: a group of cicadas is a BROOD. A group of LOCUSTS is a plague.

...and it's still not LEGOS nor will it ever be. Yeah, I know that was a couple of puzzles back, but I'm still bitter.

Nancy 10:49 AM  

@Liveprof (10:34)-- What a mouthful! And to think they could have just called it the USA Patriot Act without using an acronym at all. By comparison, the words leading to CARES are a model of aptness and simplicity. But the concept of BACKRONYM is really interesting. Thanks for the explanation.

Anonymous 10:56 AM  

@Nancy 9:13am
Yes, more than four. It's a popular beer. With all due respect, please learn about things out in the wild. Go to a mall! Go to a liquor store!
I appreciate your knowledge of all things Artistic, but the basics of popular stuff will open up a whole new world for you.

Dave L 11:03 AM  

Rex should Google before he rants. “Junketing” is garbage, but algal bloom is a common term, both in science and in the news.

Dave L 11:05 AM  

https://www.wdbj7.com/2023/06/06/virginia-department-health-warns-harmful-algal-bloom-smith-mountain-lake/

Carola 11:12 AM  

Double DNF: ILiAC and ALGAe BLOOM. For the former, I totally missed the crossing Ivy League reference, and for the latter, I accepted the crossing eARAJEAN, strange though it seemed. I live in a city built on 3 lakes, and at this time of year all the talk is of the extent of the algae blooms and their BAD ODOR. "Algal"? Not around here. Other than that...well, it was a Sunday puzzle and I always do them, happy to have the pastime.

pabloinnh 11:14 AM  

I took the title at face value and as it seemed to suggest that all the Words led to A Theme! I tried to find the theme when I had finished. I've decided that the theme was "Putting Lots and Lots of Letters into Little Squares and Making Words". At least that's what the process felt like. If I did a Marie Kando on this one there wouldn't be much left.

I liked seeing Bilbao, as it comes up on the list of Cities in Spain that You Learn in Spanish Class. I very much liked seeing YEGG. I've been waiting for that one for a long long time, as it fits my definition of classic crosswordese, viz., words you only see in crosswords. Still looking for you guys, ADIT and ATLE.

So it was a Sunday and I did the NYT Sunday Xword and now it's done. I'll give SE a Genius for coming up with so many words, but I'm Slightly Exasperated that it wasn't more fun.


Anonymous 11:29 AM  

Pete,
Creepy comment regarding the pulp novel. . Really, really creepy. But hey, you do,you.

Adam12 11:34 AM  

Surprised I’m the first to hate on SLAKE/MULL. Maybe not as awful as I thought, might just be my own deficiency.

Nancy 11:34 AM  

Anonymous -- yes, of course. What else would he be but anonymous?

But I must answer Anon 10:56 for he has cast aspersions on my sterling, well-earned reputation. I should visit a liquor store? My dear man, there are three good ones in my neighborhood and I have visited all of them many, many times. I can be found in the data base of all three. But I'm not especially a beer drinker and FAT TIRE is not known to me. I'm not saying it's not in NYC -- I wouldn't know -- but I assure you that it's not big here. I think you'd have to conduct a bit of a pilgrimage to find it -- assuming that you wanted to.

But anyway, I was making fun of the name FAT TIRE. A name I should think would be guaranteed to put off imbibers. Why, it's like naming your ice cream brand MY BELLY BULGE or CREAM OF CELLULITE.

bocamp 11:35 AM  

Had ALGAE before ALGAL, but LARA JEAN wasn't having it.

"An algal bloom or algae bloom is a rapid increase or accumulation in the population of algae in freshwater or marine water systems. It is often recognized by the discoloration in the water from the algae's pigments.[1] The term algae encompasses many types of aquatic photosynthetic organisms, both macroscopic multicellular organisms like seaweed and microscopic unicellular organisms like cyanobacteria.[2] Algal bloom commonly refers to the rapid growth of microscopic unicellular algae, not macroscopic algae. An example of a macroscopic algal bloom is a kelp forest.[2]" (Wikepedia)

Re: ILEAC:

Asked ChatGPT:

Is "ileac" a word?

Response:

"No, "ileac" is not a commonly recognized word in the English language. It does not appear in standard dictionaries and has no widely accepted definition. It's possible that it could be a rare or obscure term specific to a specialized field or jargon, but without further context, it is difficult to determine its exact meaning."

I responded:

ileal adjective

variants: also ileac

: of, relating to, or affecting the ileum

(Merriam-Webster)
===

ileac

in British English

or ileal

ADJECTIVE

1. anatomy
of or relating to the ileum

2. pathology
of or relating to ileus

(Collins English Dictionary)
===

ChatGPT responded:

"Thank you for providing the additional information. Yes, "ileac" is indeed a word, and it is synonymous with "ileal." Both terms are used in anatomy and pathology to describe something related to the ileum, which is the final part of the small intestine. So, "ileac" or "ileal" refers to anything pertaining to or affecting the ileum."

BTW, a search of Google shows a fair number of dictionaries that recognize ILEAC: here.

@Paul S (9:00 AM)

Welcome to the commentariat! 😊

@Liveprof (10:34 AM)

Thx for the BACKRONYM explanation. :)
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Lori 11:41 AM  

Agree with, and had the same reaction as, @Joe Dipinto. I don't know if this is an acronym already. but this puzzle was a DNS - did not start. I want at least a whisper of an "Aha!" with my Sunday puzzle.

Elena 11:43 AM  

Crossing the L in algal bloom (I've only ever heard of algae bloom) with Lara Jean (whoever that is) is what ruined this otherwise tedious puzzle for me.

Scottlife 11:46 AM  

I’ll spend the rest of today wondering if he is a practicing gastroenterologist who is the son of an orthopedist; a son of a parent who is both; or the son of one parent who is one, and another parent who is the other. On top of the puzzle’s crappy crosses!

andrew 11:48 AM  

@Mary McCarty 10:16 Never claimed I was any GOOD at Latin!

ODERUNT sounded off but could be a small BADODOR. Like the TSURIS people have when my SHRUBBY TOENAIL runt-ODOR makes them reCALLALOO.

(Ps - did anyone else have aTT/ANAKaN? Thought ITT was no longer in business. Why “Cousin in Addams Family” is the perennial clue)…

Blue Stater 11:49 AM  

Awful. Awful. Awful. I cannot imagine for the life of me what prompts WS to publish junk like this. I was about to type in "another candidate for worst evah," when I realized that nearly every Sunday fits this category. I can't improve on OFL's analysis of this mess.

Georgia 11:54 AM  

Fat Tire was the group go-to beer after Colorado skiing. Now it's everywhere, lost its cache to me.

Georgia 11:55 AM  

A lovely Sunday morning, but with some bad guesses in SW.

Fun_CFO 12:02 PM  

At least the French Open is on.

Parse fest galore, plus these answers necessitated by a 21x themeless. TURNA, AROOM, TSURIS, TAJIKS, BARTSTARR, SASHAOBAMA, ILEAC, DAIKONRADISH, LARAJEAN

Then stupid clueing throughout. gee thanks for the (1967) after First-ever Super Bowl MVP. Oh, you mean, not the First-ever Super Bowl MVP in 1990. Just dumb.

Buckle up indeed…for easy, detritus (2nd use this week in a clue, good grief).

Joseph Michael 12:19 PM  

There is no joy in Crosswordville today. Just a buncha words words words that mostly gave me a headache. Particularly disliked CORNELL crossing ILLEAC and BILBAO, TAJIKS crossing KIDACTORS, and CALLALOO crossing anything.

With that, I raise my FAT TIRE in a toast and propose that we dedicate this puzzle to the DAIKON RADISH that LARA JEAN threw at the KOOPAS’ ALGAL BLOOM. Or was it ANAKIN who caused such TSURIS? I think I need to GET SOME AIR.

MarthaCatherine 12:25 PM  

I dislike all clues having to do with that green goo that develops in bodies of water. ALGA? ALGAS? ALGAE? ALGAL?

I went with ALGAE. Then I had DIDOKbY for 72A. Figured Ebrajean was as good a name as any for a movie I know nothing about.

Ten (TEN!) Ks in this puzzle. Gotta be some sort of record.

Sgreennyc 12:26 PM  

I knew Rex would hate any puzzle by a NYT puzzle editor. He is a sad, resentful wannabe.

Georgia 12:46 PM  

. . . . cachet, actually. (Smile).

Ken Freeland 12:51 PM  

I certainly considered it, but finally concluded that ATT is a telecom giant, not an industrial giant. Yeah, I thought ITT was defunct too... shows how little I know about Wall St.

Sunday Struggler 12:53 PM  

I usually like puzzles more than Rex, who seems to take joy in finding fault, but today I thought his assessment was fair if not downright generous. This was the classic "joyless slog." One of my least favorite puzzles in a long time.

GILL I. 12:55 PM  

Good gravy...! Nobody liked this puzzle? I had a ton of fun. Words I didn't know...Words I couldn't spell, Words that popped. WORDS, WORDS, WORDS....
Where do I even begin:
I'm staring at the didn't know column: BACKRONYM, BART STARR, a TSURIS and a RED HOT POKER. That was my ay dios mio start. All up in the attic area of cob webs and spiders. I swept them aside. Once clean, I was able to look at you and think: I like this. It looks fresh and airy. I think I'll buy some curtains.
Now I move downward. Who are you ILEAC? Doesn't CORN ILL sound like some ivy seen among cliffs? Why not. You've already given me some CALL ALOO, a side of TSURIS and some KID ACTORS. Wow.
COGNOSCENTE! Where have you been all my life? And JUNKETING? Is that what Thomas was doing?
IN SHORT...A themeless full of whees and wows and some uhs and ahs....What more shall I ask for?

You snuck in BILBAO in the centerish of the puzzle. Everyone should visit. My mom lived in a small town outside of Bilbao called Algorta, so my sister and I would take the train from Madrid and go see her often. In those days, Bilbao was an ugly dirty steel and shipbuilding city full of haze and dirt. You could see rusting ocean vessels just perched on docks on the bank of the Nervion River. The eastern bank of the Nervion was full of factories and unused iron ore tossed aside to be used elsewhere. Then you had the western bank which was residential and historic. That part of Bilbao was really quite beautiful
Change began around the mid 70's. The Guggenheim Museum...designed by none other than an American architect named Frank Gehry. Everything began to change for the better. The harbor was cleaned up...the subways were expanded, the shipyards were replaced with a cultural center....IN SHORT, a place to visit. The Basques may not be the friendliest people on this planet (unless you drink and dance with them) but they are proud and handsome. You must try Bacalao al pil-pil or piperrada or maybe a side of marmitako. Those there are words to eat by...


Jim mcdougall 1:00 PM  

Not sure anon deserved a reply. But a good one!!

RJ 1:14 PM  

I'm trying to reel in my negativity regarding Sunday puzzles. I enjoyed learning about red-hot poker and backronyms....

Anonymous 1:38 PM  

Raised hand

Carola 1:41 PM  

@Joe Dipinto, @kitshef, @bocamp, re: the cryptic. I liked Fred Piscop's "voice," if that's the right word, and would like to see more from him. But I have to give myself a conceptual DNF on one entry (right answer but incorrectly parsed) and a cheat on another (using a crossword dictionary for a letter pattern). Those two trouble spots were up top; for me, the bottom half yielded more easily and got more smiles.

Elision 1:48 PM  

... but it's not. The adjectival form is appropriate.

SharonAK 1:52 PM  

@JD 6:50 am Enjoyed your comments. Fun.

jb129 1:56 PM  

I dunno - I liked it. A themeless on a Sunday (especially after the last few) is refreshing. Except for "Tajiks" & Coops, I found it kind of easy.

Thanks Sam (see you on SB).

bocamp 2:05 PM  

@Carola (1:41 PM)

Just starting on it now. 🤞
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yinchiao 2:20 PM  

It's hardly correct to call Macbeth's dagger a "prop" since it's imaginary and never appears on stage.
Well, almost never: in Polanski's movie version he had a cheesy day-glo dagger dangling on a string, confirming the wisdom of not trying to make it into a prop.

Anonymous 2:26 PM  

This old timer says thank you. For the reasons you give, when my best friend and I drove through northern Spain in the late 60s, we went right past BILBAO and had no thought of stopping, on our way to Santiago.

ChrisS 2:34 PM  

Agreed. I assumed the cross "TAMIR" was some obscure circus side show performer.

ChrisS 2:44 PM  

Fat Tire has been around since the early '90's

Anonymous 2:45 PM  

Agree! Cant believe Rex didnt comment on that. I kept saying to myself this cant right I already have TOE in 2x

Anonymous 2:49 PM  

LOL! Same!

johnk 3:25 PM  

ALGAL BLOOM is a technically correct term that just happens to not be used - except by NYTXW today. It threw me off, along with many other commenters who don't know or care about some "hit book/film series". But IN SHORT, I DID OKAY.

Anoa Bob 5:00 PM  

I was impressed when I opened this and thought the grid looked like a Friday or Saturday themeless on steroids. I also thought "Boy, am I glad I don't have to fill this one in." That is a ton of open space and a real challenge to fill. So I was predisposed to like this puzzle right out of the gate.

I often think that the larger number of theme entries required in a 21X21 grid means that not all of them will be winners and that the suboptimal theme entries will take up to much real estate. This will lead to a more segmented grid, a higher black square count and too much short stuff that is just uninteresting "glue" that holds the whole thing together. That's why I rarely finish a Sunday puzzle. I usually rate them by how far I get before I quit.

So I'm in the crowd that appreciates an occasional themeless on Sunday and I really enjoyed this one. I divided my solve into two sessions and took my time to savor this well crafted puzzle. I did the whole thing.

Both OFL and the Commentariat are in top form today. I think REX is at his best when he has a strong negative reaction to a puzzle and goes into a stream of consciousness snark fest. I especially got a chuckle out of his "What on god's green earth?" comment about 6D COURT CAM.

Anonymous 5:19 PM  

No problem with ALGAL BLOOM. If ALGAL were on its own, sure, I’d take issue, but that word is pretty commonly employed in the phrase ALGAL BLOOM. It’s a thing. I’ve heard it a lot.

Joe Dipinto 5:30 PM  

So, we've had three different cryptic experiences thus far–

@kitshef: top easier; bottom harder
@Carola: bottom easier; top harder
@me: left easier; right harder (I did finish it this morning)



Wonder if they served Fat Tire beer at

Bill's beer hall in Bilbao, Bilbao, Bilbao
Was the most fantastic place I've ever known
For just a dollar you'd get all you wanted
All you wanted, all you wanted
Of whatever kind of joy you called your own
But if you had been around to see the fun
Well I don't know you might not like what you'd have seen
The stools at the bar were damp with rye
On the dance floor the grass grew high
Through the roof the moon was shining green
And the music really gave you some return on what you paid
Hey Joe, play that old song they always played

[Chorus]
That old Bilbao moon
Down where we used to go
That old Bilbao moon
Casting it's golden glow
That old Bilbao moon
Love never laid me low
That old Bilbao moon
Why does it haunt me so?
I don't know if it would have brought you joy or grief but
It was fantastic
It was fantastic
It was fantastic
So long ago

Anonymous 6:23 PM  

This is the type of puzzle that makes me give up puzzles for awhile. Boring, esoteric, too many weird word crossings.

Anonymous 6:31 PM  

"Rosebud" had me stuck for the longest time. Wikipedia has an article on Secret Service codenames, and said Rosebud was used for Maureen Reagan. Not knowing that the Secret Service would re-use the names, I didn't scroll down to the Obamas. I wonder if they ever mixed up Sasha and Maureen.

Anonymous 6:37 PM  

Thank you!

Tom 4 6:38 PM  

Kid actors, intro class, sold as is, toe nail, junketing?
I’m sure puzzle builders used to physically mail them in but this was really mailed in!

bocamp 7:02 PM  

@Joe, kitshef, Carola: found the cryptic relatively easy-med. Happy that I was able to make sense of all the clues, altho 6A took some time before the bulb went on. Also, learned something about the answer to 26A.
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Anonymous 7:09 PM  

the only redeeming quality here was the cryptic two pages before

dgd 7:18 PM  

Maybe in popular speech? I remember hearing sacro-ileac when I was a kid. It is definitely a thing. Whether it is used in medicine is irrelevant, because crossword answers are based on what the public says not what experts say.
I liked the puzzle enough. I made the same mistake as Rex did- Sara/algas- but also spelled iliac thusly, thereby totally not getting Cornell. For a 2 square dnf , rare for me. I do agree that was a bad cross for a name, but somehow I feel a lot of Rex’s distaste comes from the dnf!

dgd 7:49 PM  

Yes but it is hard to say so the MUCH more common algae bloom is what most would use or think of first. I have run into algal, but only in crosswords. Unfortunately for me & Rex we forgot it. So this cross is not easy for most people. Also, Lara is only fairly recently a trendy name and I & Rex didn’t remember it either. (I only heard it in Lara Croft). So Sara won out.
Rex gets furious when he dnfs. I don’t but he does have a point.

Christina 7:50 PM  

I was so possibly excited (as a former Shakespeare scholar who wrote my dissertation on Renaissance drama) thst the words words words (from Hamlet) would be Shakespeare themed, or somehow HAD a theme since themeless puzzles don’t usually have titles. It wasn’t. It was stupid and pointless and while I have heard of algae blooms I have never heard of agal blooms (and had no idea who Lara Jean was). Sundays are never my favorite, but themeless Sundays just suck.

Also, glad 4 semesters of college Latin allowed me to retain knowledge of amo amas amat, but what a stupid clue (when amo, amare is what you’d write it in an actual Latin class…)

Anonymous 8:07 PM  

I bet people SAY algae bloom not algal bloom, including those living near water. Maybe even you if you’re not thinking about it.

Anonymous 8:21 PM  

“Sacro-ileac” (made up by dgd) is definitely not a thing.

Anonymous 8:29 PM  

Beautiful evening on my patio in Westchester County, still light at 8:30 pm , Thank God for DST.

Lynnatny 8:47 PM  

I spent four years at CORNELL and I didn't see this answer...because no one ever ever refers to "cliffs." It's gorges, always.

Anonymous 9:19 PM  

Sacro-iliac joint. Ileo-Cecal valve. Your welcome.

acornembryo 9:47 PM  

Same - vet surgeon 30+ years. It is Iliac.

Anonymous 10:02 PM  

Agreeing with Joe Welling above: WONTHEWAR is the conclusion of an old, old expression in which someone absorbs a tactical setback in pursuit of an ultimately successful larger victory: “She lost the battle but she won the war.” Not analogous at all to the banal EATASANDWICH.

Anita 7:00 AM  

Michiganian here. "Algae bloom" is what we call the creeping menace to our lakes. And easier to pronounce than "algal bloom."

Anonymous 8:13 AM  

Thank you for pointing out the ileum/ilium confusion. I’m an internist/geriatrician, and I had the same reaction. Even worse was seeing comments making the leap from the intestine clue to the sacroiliac joint.

Anonymous 8:50 AM  

It’s actually ileal. Iliac refers to the pelvic bone.

Anonymous 11:49 AM  

I got the payoff for my Italian studies. Guess I was just on Ezersky’s wavelength. Loved it!

Anonymous 11:51 AM  

Exactly

Matt M 2:49 PM  

I never agree with Rex. This is the exception that proves the rule.

Anonymous 2:59 PM  

No excuse for a themless to have such bad fill. A themeless should sparkle everywhere. Instead it fizzles in too many AREAs. INSHORT, not enough OOHS. Plus there was no indication on the magazine edition that this was a themeless puzzle. I kept trying to find a non-existent theme which only added to the frustration. OK. Rant over. Gonna GETSOMEAIR now.

Anonymous 3:45 PM  

I was excited to see an image of Callaloo Literary Journal here. https://www.callalooliteraryjournal.com/

Burma Shave 2:01 AM  

INSHORT, POKER

DOIDARE COURTCAM OAR not?
TOETOTOE ITT was A ball.
IMUST GET AROOM, she IS HOT,
and SEMISWEET when she BARESALL.

--- TRENT CORNELL

Anonymous 8:44 AM  

In Syndi Land there was a repeat of a Feb 16, 2020 puzzle by Sam Ezersky

spacecraft 12:17 PM  

An unnecessarily hard puzzle with no point. Do we really have to know KOOPAS and TAJIKS? Oh, and the DAIKORADISH?

At LEAST two too many TOEs: WENTTOETOTOE/TOENAIL. Then, SHORTHAUL/INSHORT, and JUSTKIDDING/KIDACTORS. Dupes galore.

Another [BIO]WASTE of a Sunday morning. Double bogey.

Wordle par.

Anonymous 4:40 PM  

@Christina 7:50pm:
Not if you were asked to conjugate the present tense of amare.

Anonymous 5:20 PM  

Ileac is correct!!!
Ileac = intestinal
Iliac = pelvic
Please promptly forget, so we can see wrongheaded complaints over and over.

Anonymous 5:49 PM  

To Anonymous @ 6:23 AM. In my nearly 47 years in Medical Technology I never saw iliac spelled with an e. So I consulted "Google Machine", and this is what I found.

Iliac vs Ileac:
The iliac and ileac regions are both located in the lower abdomen, but they refer to different areas of the body. The iliac region refers to the area of the pelvis that is located near the hip bones, while the ileac region refers to the lower part of the small intestine.

Anonymous 6:11 PM  

Perhaps I watch too many cooking shows, but I've heard daikon radish used innumerable times on them.

Diana, LIW 7:18 PM  

The final SW corner led to a minor DNF. Otherwise, a bit by bit amusement for the day.

KIDACTORS??? Really? You're KIDDING me.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Anonymous 12:10 AM  

For some reason I can't figure out the "1/4: Abbr." clue and why the answer is "deg." It seems I'm the only one. It's making me nuts! Could someone help, please?

Cross@words 1:40 PM  

@Anonymous 12:10 AM — my question precisely! Maybe it’s a special character switch as we sometimes get in Syndiland; should have been the little centered circle?

Brett Alan 1:00 AM  

@Anonymous 12:10 AM and @cross@words:

It's supposed to be the little degree symbol, as in temperature readings. On the Seattle Times site it shows as:

86. º: Abbr.

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