Joel's smuggling partner in HBO's The Last of Us / SUN 5-21-23 / Pirate fodder once / Equipment used to make pizza slices and french fries / Auto racing champion Sébastien / Animal that resembles a raccoon more than a bear despite its name / Classic Hasbro toy that debuted in 1964 / Japanese fried pork cutlet / Brussels administrative official, informally
Sunday, May 21, 2023
Constructor: Robert Ryan
Relative difficulty: Medium (Easy theme, some challenging fill)
Theme answers:
- PARTNERIN' CRIME (23A: Bigamy, legally speakin'?)
- CHECKIN' DESK (36A: Where copy editors are workin'?)
- WAITIN' LINE (56A: "Enjoyin' your meal?" or "I'll be servin' you today"?)
- ENDIN' TEARS (83A: Reaction to the climax of a heartbreakin' movie?)
- MOTHERIN' LAW (102A: Statute regulatin' surrogacy?)
- BACKIN' BUSINESS (117A: Financin' Broadway shows?)
- TALKIN' CIRCLES (16D: Bubbles featurin' comic book dialogue?)
- RESPONDIN' KIND (55D: One tendin' to reply quickly?)
Tonkatsu (豚カツ, とんかつ or トンカツ, pronounced [toŋkatsɯ]; "pork cutlet") is a Japanese dish that consists of a breaded, deep-fried pork cutlet. It involves coating slices of pork with panko (bread crumbs), and then frying them in oil. The two main types are fillet and loin. Tonkatsu is also the basis of other dishes such as katsukarē and katsudon. // The word tonkatsu is a combination of the Sino-Japanese word ton (豚) meaning "pig", and katsu (カツ), which is a shortened form of katsuretsu (カツレツ), an old transliteration of the English word cutlet. (wikipedia)
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I struggled most in the BLANK CDS area, unsure of the "B" in LOEB (who?) (13D: Auto racing champion Sébastien) and needing every other cross to be able to see BLANK CDS. Real trouble with the -CRAT part of EUROCRAT because wow what a stupid word. I own Vans but struggled with SKOOL for sure (79D: Vans Old ___ (classic sneaker)), as well as with that clue for SKIS, wtf (87A: Equipment used to make "pizza slices" or "French fries"). Skiing lingo, eh? I used to ski when I was a kid. I missed those terms. Or they just weren't using them yet (see below). Had ATILT before ASKEW, so that whole little SKOOL section was a mess. Also, that OPCITS section—OPCITS? (103D: Some cross-references in a research paper, informally). "Informally"? No one has ever, ever, ever used "op cit" "informally." The idea that awkwardly pluralizing your Latin bibliog. terms is "informal" is Hi-Larious. That really mucked up that lower section for me. And yet none of this was very hard. It was more of a hassle, largely joyless, something you had to do to get from beginning to end. BLANK CDS and TONKATSU—symmetrical exceptions to the otherwise bleak quality of most of the rest of the grid. I'd rather not spend any more time dwelling on this one, so I won't.
Well, maybe I'll explain a few things, in case that might be useful to someone:
- Looks like "pizza slices" and "french fries" are just what I knew as "snowplow" and "parallel skiing"—has to do with the shape your skis make as you turn / descend:
- Wednesday is named for the god ODIN (also Woden) (8D: Wednesday eponym)
- IMACS rhymes with IMAX (17D: Products with screens ... or a homophone of a type of big screen)
- "Of the cloth" is a religious term meaning "ordained"; LAY refers to the unordained (we often use LAY metaphorically, e.g. "to put something in layman's terms") (29D: Not of the cloth)
- At the end of the actual title "Citizen Kane" is a SILENT "E" (that "e" in "Kane") (51D: What's found at the end of "Citizen Kane"?)
- The PEA causes insomnia in the fairy tale "The Princess and the Pea" (70D: Cause of insomnia in a fairy tale)
103 comments:
Naticks galore: NOPE, never heard of NACRE, nor NOPE for that matter. Had 'open" for "yawning" and "slap" for "surfing sound," so never found ubiquitous OREO, or several others in the area. Thought that "plankdon" might be a variant of plankton, so thought that was the pirates' fodder, leading to a comedy of errors, and "ipads" for the screen device, even though no homophones there. Just too many trouble spots, but I did enjoy the theme more than Rex, FWIW.... cute wordplay. But on the whole the fill made this puzzle a dismal failure...
Even as an auto racing fan, I struggled to come up with LOEB. Sebastien Bourdais, a gimme. Devastating flooding in Emilia-Romagna.
BLANK CDS took a lot of crosses to finish. No clue on TONKATSU.
Enough answers I didn't know, or that were clued in unfamiliar ways, that I ended up with a slightly slower-than-average time. Or maybe in the morning would be more conducive to solving.
Easyish. Cute, liked it more than @Rex did.
TONKASU was a major WOE.
Fixing meT before SAT and Style before SKOOL consumed the most nanoseconds during my solve.
BLANKCDS and SILENTE were great. OPCIT/ACCRA was brutal. Fun puzzle. Rex you are right, the theme was easy and once I cracked it themes dropped easily. though I wanted CHECKINDate before CHECKINDESK
As it so happens, I live in Reading, England, on the THAMES. Appreciated the 'Beefeater' = DRYGIN reference. Also a fan of katsu curries, so took a stab at TONKATSU and the crosses confirmed it was correct. Thought BLANKCDS might be 'black CDs' for a while (blackmarket CDS? it was a stretch...) but once I worked out CHANTING, it fell into place.
Got stuck a bit in that REDPANDA / ROAR / OREO / ERMA section.
And agreed: the theme was a bit meh.
I knew VELDT without any crosses. But I could not believe ????KCD? was possibly correct, so it took me until near the end of the puzzle to actually write in VELDT. I would say that this just means I should be more confident, but I am often confidently wrong…
DNF due to the horrible fill in the south. NACRE? crossing ACCRA?? which then crosses OPCITS??? I can’t believe the editor saw this and thought it was acceptable. Good grief!
I feel like I live in opposite world! I struggled with yesterday's 'easy' puzzle (it took me twice as long as usual for a Saturday) yet breezed through this in half the time I usually spend on a Sunday. 🤷🏼♂️
It may help that I live in France so am familiar with Sébastien Loeb, but I found today's puzzle fun (I'm a dad, so a sucker for dad jokes, I guess!) and relaxing compared to the stress fest I spent yesterday.
I wrote in FATHERINLAW, but then couldn't figure out what vowel to use in F_CKED. N_PE didn't help.
Found this one pretty easy which always helps on a Sunday. Sure the theme wasn’t amazing but it very rarely is on a Sunday and this was perfectly serviceable.
Rough stuff.
It’ll END IN TEARS
RR’s two NYT puzzles have shared a couple of features, one delightful and the other a gift to Crosslandia.
First, his themes have featured words with special and wow-worthy quirks. In his last puzzle, he featured theme answers that could be taken two ways, smile-causing finds such as INTROVERSION, clued [Beginner’s edition?] and DEPARTMENTALLY, clued [Zone out?]. Totally different, but as awe-producing as today’s magnificent finds.
In his notes on his first puzzle, he said he used a computer program to help him dig out these phrases, and he may have done the same today, but I don’t care. I’m all for computers supporting, rather than supplanting, creativity.
Second, in both puzzles, it’s obvious that he places a high priority on wordplay and originality in his cluing. And he’s brilliant at it, IMO. STRIKE ONE, for instance, has never been clued with anything like [First time offense, so to speak]. IMACS has usually been clued blandly with clues such as [Apple products], but look at the spark of Robert’s [Products with screens … or a homophone of a type of big screen].
AHA has been clued more than 600 times in the NYT since 1945 and more than 500 times in all major outlets since 2014, usually with a quote, like [Got it!]. Compare those with the freshness of today’s [Comprehensive report?].
In two puzzles, it’s clear to me that Robert has added a gifted new cluing voice to our glorious pastime, plus he has shown the constructing chops to showcase it.
Thank you for this fresh and wonderful puzzle, Robert. And, I selfishly request, please keep that talented brain of yours aimed at making crosswords!
Thx, Robert; lookin' good! 😊
Med.
Only scary cross: NOPE / OP CITS.
Otherwise, slow and steady (always the case with Sun's).
Enjoyable journey! :)
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On to Jeff Chen's acrostic on xwordinfo. 🤞 [oops… knew I forgot something yd: Lester Ruff's Sat. Stumper.]
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness & Freudenfreude to all 🙏
I liked the puzzle, but don't get how AHA = "comprehensive report."
MOMA is a museum, not a gallery, right? A gallery displays art that’s for sale, or so I thought.
Since the NYT requires a theme today, I would prefer a lame one that doesn’t result in a grid full of gibberish over a more elegant but cryptic “brain teaser” and this one delivered on that nicely, despite OFL’s misgivings. I’ll give additional props to the constructor for coming up with a truly unique way to clue AHA - talk about an AHA moment when that one finally registered.
I didn’t expect to get the happy music today while I was entering things like NACRE, ACCRA, TONKATSU, VELDT and SKOOL. I think the clue for BACKIN BUSINESS was a bit of a stretch - I was thinking Musicals or Broadway Plays would be involved. Just dropping in the generic BUSINESS seemed like a bit of a cop out.
I totally agree. Wonderful, delightful puzzle. It's interesting how different folks react to the same thing.
Had BACKINmUSIcalS for a long time - not sure why the clue mentions Broadway and not Wall St.
Aw, c’mon, Rex. The theme answers are cornball, to be sure, but most bring at least a chuckle.
One criticism: I thought the clue on 92D (“Bread an Italian grandmother might have made?”) was unfair. Doesn’t “bread” imply a plural currency unit? The bread an American might make would be DOLLARS, not DOLLAR, no? So LIRA seems like a deliberate cheat that the editor should have caught.
@SLG 7:49 - You exclaim "Aha!" aloud when you suddenly comprehend what is going on.
Liked it more than Rex, which I say often enough (I appreciate dad jokes more than he does), but also found it easier than Rex, which is hardly ever true.
A gallery is a room.
(At work here, so did the puz on the train ride in...)
@SLG, 7:49 AM: When you finally comprehend something, you might let out a shout (a "report"): AHA!
I liked this. I didn't find it to be *too* corny. Agree "Pirate fodder, once" was clever cluing, and I was wondering initially about PLANK--- but LOEP seemed all wrong. Had my AHA moment as I was strolling crosstown on 34th Street. Like others, the NE corner gave me the most trouble.
Thankfully, Robert did not give us anything like the London Times crossword. Even as a moderately capable solver, I find those very difficult.
Cheers, Robert! Well done!
Colin
I thought this was a lot of fun. Light, quick and clever. Looking forward to the next puzzle from this constructor!
@SLG - think sound made (report) while comprehending.
Dear puzzle constructers,
Please clue 13D as Lisa ____ with the 1994 #1 “Hit Stay (I Missed you)”. We could all use more Lisa LOEB in our lives.
Sincerely,
Me and everyone else
This is the first Sunday puzzle I’ve ever finished on my own, without any “check puzzle” or “reveal word” cheats. It took me one hour and 34 minutes. No idea whether that’s a good time, but I’m feelin’ pretty proud right now!
@SLG as others said, "report" can mean to speak or shout. It's kind of an old-fashioned usage of that word, in this case.
Like others, and unlike Rex, I enjoyed the theme very much. Rex needs to let go of the idea that every week should have all fresh themes, nothing that's every any kind of retreat from any of the last 30 years.
It's a crossword in English, it has to follow a lot of rules, there are limited ways to push outside of that box. We'll get something new and original once in a while, and that is good. But often it'll be a new take on an old joke, and that is fine too.
Absolutely crushed this one. Everything in my wheelhouse. I even know Sebastien Loeb, a problem area for some people.
Why so many who don't know NOPE? Jordan Peele's latest movie? It was a big deal, it's recent, it's been up on streaming now for about six months... do you folks not watch movies?
A puzzle that leaves one with an age-old question: Do OPCITS ATTRACT?
LOLCAT Andrew!
Terrible cluing . . . again. A yip is not a bark. That's why we have different words. MOMA, for the love of god, is NOT a gallery. Like at least one other comment here I find myself constantly saying, 'It can't be that' and then it is. Sigh. It's time for Will Shortz to step down. We need a better editor.
Comprehensive as in “realization.” Report as in “exclamation.” So when one realizes something they shout, “Aha!”
Hey All !
I rather enjoyed this puz today. Opposite of Rex, I thought it fun parsing out the g-less Themers.
I do agree with the BLANK CDS clue. Got a sneering chuckle, if you can imagine that, once I finally figured out it had nothing to do with ARRR pirates. Like a "Really? Ya got me good!"
SW corner a toughie here, got down to the last couple of words, TONKATS_/_BE_/_EEDS, saying to myself it's either REEDS or WEEDS, and then remembering @M&A's adage of "when in doubt, throw in a U", so I did at the end of TONKATSU, thereby seeing UBER. Bam, Happy Music!
Interesting Themers layout, you get your two Down Themers, strategically placed as to not cross any Across Themers. Or rather, the Across Themers strategically placed to avoid the NE-ISH/SW-ISH corners.
Nice to see the definition of ENTENTE. Put it in the SB all the time, not knowing what it was. Got your almost symmetrical DAD and MOTHER. Two ATs in the North (three if you count ATTRACT, AT TRACT? - (Outstanding in one's field?)
Put YIP in at 1D, amazed to find it correct. Could've been yap, arf. CpLus before CFLAT, thinking it an odd clue for CpLus.
Light on dreck, a neat type theme, some resistance in spots, fairly open grid, just a nice SunPuz. C'mon Rex, get a little SUNnier in your reviews! Life is short, smell the puzs along the way!
Time to ROOIN THE DAY.
Two F
RooMonster
DarrinV
All stuff I would like to say, but no patience to type.
On the same theme, The clues were tricky with ahas coming many times. Who cares if the word is often used, if the clue leads me on a unique path. Even the informally for op cit is tricky...the formal phrase is opus citus. Great puzzle.
Missing LMS … anyone?
I agree with your review. Some of the answers were tricky, but easy enough to figure out … even if the words or context was unfamiliar. As for the theme, it felt like a cringeworthy kickin the behind. I’ve taken to going to the LA Times when I want a fun Sunday solve, even though I miss Merl Reagle. His themers sometimes made me laugh out loud.
Great far right Puzz Pair today in SCREW TRUTH, the unofficial motto of Fox News.
For the titillation-dependent, we have the SE corner featuring REAM and SEX.Take those TOTHEMAX and you’ll be INASTATE.
I’ve got to admit that I liked this theme plenty. So call me a Dad. Several commenters have missed the point of BACKINBUSINESS. To put on a hit play, it takes people in the Directin’ Business, the Actin’ Business and the BACKIN’ BUSINESS.
Very fast for me. I even thought I felt a whoosh or two and had to check my pants to make sure it wasn’t something worse. Thanks for a swell Sunday, Robert Ryan.
Plus one for "silent e" having the same number of letters as "Rosebud"
One man’s Natick is another man’s gimme.
The theme answers just didn't change enough for me for wackiness to ensue. WAITIN' LINE changed from WAIT IN LINE and RESPONDIN' KIND changed from RESPOND IN KIND but with PARTNERIN' CRIME it seems like you are also a PARTNER IN CRIME and ENDIN' TEARS means you END IN TEARS.
The themers were at least interesting stand-alone phrases and there were some good twists in the cluing. "Pirate fodder" had me scratching my head (pirates eating hay?) and when I had CDS at the end of it, I took out VELDT because that looked very wrong. AHA, blank CDs for pirating music. I don't know if I'd call that "fodder" though.
I watched a ski instructor lead a bunch of kids down a bunny slope, all in snowplow position and the instructor kept saying, "Pizza, pizza." I thought it was a clever way of getting through to the kids. "French fries" was new to me as a ski term but it made sense.
Thanks, Robert Ryan!
A fun theme -- although some themers were more equal than others. My favorites by far were WAITIN LINE (which I got off just the "W", but that's because it was so well-clued) and MOTHERIN LAW. Weakest by far was ENDIN TEARS.
Most of the grid avoided Naticky fill, with the exception of the side-by-side SKOOL/TIANA where I almost DNF'ed. But I had my own non-Naticky problems as well in the NE:
Reading was found on THe Map rather than on the THAMES -- an idee fixe leading to PERT instead of SASS for "mouthing off." Now how could I get to LALALA instead of LALALE? I finally saw my error and corrected.
Look, I am the most squeamish and timid of moviegoers and I avoid horror films like the plague, but a film called NOPE wouldn't scare me off in the slightest. What kind of self-respecting horror film calls itself NOPE? I really resisted that answer.
You got me once again, SILENT (letter) -- here an E. And to think I was looking for Rosebud or sled. Will I ever learn?
Loved the clue/answer for YES AND NO and for PEA.
A divertin' puzzle that served the purpose of entertainin'.
Not a Natick, as NACRE is not a proper noun
A clever theme idea and a fun puzzle to solve. I admired how the -in' got worked into each clue, too. Favorite: BACKIN' BUSINESS, just because it took me the longest time to grasp. I found it a very entertaining Sunday.
Sounds like more folks were like me in the "enjoyed it" crowd, unlike Rex, whose use of the word "grim" made me laugh out loud. It was definitely not easy, but slow and steady also wins the race and I only got stuck in the SW for a while by putting in KEEP IT UP after POUNCE and staring at that for a while. Thought the AHA clue was most amusing and some were stretchin' the limits, but otherwise I didn't END IN TEARS.
@Nancy 10:48 - I had THemap too! But after answering Asia for where Timbuktu is found (in Mali) on Friday, figured I’d better drill down a tad more.
Speaking of Nope, here is a (rare) funny game show skit from SNL this year, pointing out how unmemorable recent movies and programming in general is…
”Can’t you name just one 2020’s movie?”
Like @Stacey CT I took forever to complete this puzzle, tho had to cheat once to get definition of cooper’s occupation. The three resulting letters led to unraveling the entire solution—go figure! Liked the theme, not brilliant but worth some chuckles. Fun to solve bit by bit. Too easily pleased?
Took a sec to get into it, but afterwards it played easy. Had meet for DUEL at first, but that’s about it. Enjoyable enough with my coffee, I guess.
I’m with @egs, I liked this theme plenty. As a Mom whose husband is a Dad, I guess I can see things as “cute” and not “corny” but hey…nothings wrong with corny! I also kind of whooshed through except for the NE where I had to return to finally suss out BLANKCDS and IMACS. I had BLANKaDs and IMAAS…some how I got my pirating into the internet and thought a blank ad would exist. Sheesh.
Agree that I would never “informally” refer to OPCITS but then again I’m not into the biz of having to actually refer to them. I do NOT buy into all the nits about gallery…c’mon…there is a National Gallery of Art in D.C.! I think of it as both a museum AND an art gallery. I seriously doubt most solvers would give a second thought to MOMA being called a gallery.
@Trina, having no real bloomin’ idea about LMS BUT my guess is that she is just too busy right now to comment. She is such a dedicated teacher, my guess is that it’s tied into a heavier than usual amount of work related to that.
Btw…reCaptcha is really acting up today! This is my third and last try!
Fun puzzle with a clever theme and a lot of great clues. One of my favorites was 51D, especially since SILENT E is the same number of letters as “Rosebud” and, when grasping for straws, “kid sled.” Favorite themer was PARTNERIN’ CRIME.
*Golf green
*Time wondering if your fib will be believed
*Nylons business
*Location for sizing up a bank heist
*PUTTIN’ PLACE
*LYIN’ WAIT
*STOCKIN’ TRADE
*CASIN’ POINT
Two fun things for me today, one thanks to the always pleasant and informative @Lewis.
I always enjoy when answers pop into my head that I have no idea how or when I learned them. Two today: NACRE and VELDT. Never see them in print; never use them, but there they were- no crosses or guesses required.
As for Lewis, when he pointed out the wordplay in the constructor’s earlier effort, I thought INTROVERSION was very clever so I tried to guess the clue for DEPARTMENTALLY and was pleased I came up with “Supportive academic colleague”. Put the break in the wrong place. Robert’s clue was better.
Fun puzzle. Better than most Sundays.
Sheesk. Finally finished. Exactly what 🦖 said, i.e., blah.
Tee-Hee: The constructor added a meta-uniclue for the slush pile editor: LAY SNUG SCREW UNO SEX
Uniclues:
1 Tra.
2 Martini bar.
3 Cause of all this rain.
4 Agreement with friends about my debating strategies.
5 Conservative opinion of gender re-norming advocates arguments.
1 LALALA PARTNER IN CRIME (~)
2 DRY GIN CHECK IN DESK (~)
3 EL NIñO BACK IN BUSINESS
4 TALK IN CIRCLES ENTENTE
5 SEX PEST SASS ASKEW
Stacey CT 8:56 AM
+1 Congrats. Mark it on your calendar and save it. It's your new birthday.
@trina & Beezer - no idea. either about LMS but my daughter is a teacher and this time of year is pretty hectic with end of year testing, auditors, report cards,...
I finally surrendered and looked up Ms. Krabappel; too long since I've watched The Simpsons, I guess. That let me see that the puzzle was ENDIN' TEARS, rather than HIDIN' the as it left the theater, that the shade was TONE, not TiNt, and that the Oxford was a shoe, as I'd suspected all along.
My other problem was that I wanted those things to be TALKIN' BALLOONS (since they're actually called "speech balloons") rather than CIRCLES. I did sort that one, though, and then could see SIESTA, giving me TIANA where I would otherwise have put a D or an L. In my defense there, I think the SIESTA is something you find in Spain (or Argentina, or many other places), not in the language.
MOMA is OK by me; they do have galleries inside. But while I got it OK, I don't believe that FOSTER DADs are legal guardians. Foster children remain under the custody of the state unless they either return to their parents of are adopted.
@Beezer, if you get a blue name you don't have to do the captcha -- you can just ignore it and click publish.
Either Rex didn't get the theme or he glossed over it. Yes, the theme answers all drop the G at the ends of the first words but that's not all they do. Dropping the Gs creates new phrases that also work for the clue! Ingenuous. For example, bigamy is a crime involving being married to more than one partner. It's a PARTNERING CRIME. However, those involved in bigamy aren't doing it alone; they have a PARTNER IN CRIME. Both phrases work. The IN part isn't fused to anything, as Rex misstates. I thought this was a great Sunday puzzle.
Agree with @Lewis, as usual, and @Lori— found the theme to be cute. The fill wasn’t easy, but fairly clued. I’ve never seen
The Last of Us or Nope, and likely never will, but nacre was a gimme, and op cits gave me Accra. So, all’s fair….
Ever notice that when Rex has trouble with a puzzle, it’s always the constructor’s fault?
Well, I liked it more than OFL, which means it must be a day ending in "y".
Here I am a bit late to the party again as I had to participate in a rather tricky anthem being sung by our church choir. So when I saw the clue "Church chorus", in went CHOIR, with the thought that it was way too straightforward. Well surprise surprise, it was. AMENS was a much better answer for the clue. My apologies to RR.
My wife, a wonderful skier, taught our 5-year old granddaughter to ski this winter and I heard plenty of "pizza slices" and "french fries" while I was trying to stay out of the way. She eventually made it all the way to the top on the chair lift and momentarily panicked when she discovered she couldn't see the bottom and thought the trip down would be endless. But all ended happily.
Dad jokes are bad? Who knew? I liked this one fine. LOEB and ERMA (hey @Roo-almost!) were the only real unknowns and it put up enough of a fight to be enjoyable. Nice work, RR. Ranked Right up there with my favorites, and thanks for all the fun.
@bocamp-Thought the Stumper was a Medium+. aobut the same as a Saturday MYT.
@Stacey in CTpCongratulations! You never forget your first time, and I always say it's because you can only do something for the first time once.
I know (I think) @Rex likes a complicated crazy run through a maze and make it hard but fun to find my way home type puzzle, but I'm perfectly happy for a fun wordplay, lazy and uncomplicated Sunday. Does that make sense?
Leaving out the IN just reminds me of accents. It's like swallowing the last letter of a word. Sumpin special. I sometimes leave out an IN when I'm talking to myself. I won't do it around other people, otherwise they think me as a fathead dullard.
So maybe I'll start with Citizen Kane and your clue. Where did ROSEBUD go. Was it some sort of cheap red sled he rode all the time. No...It was a SILENTE E and it crosses ENDIN TEARS.
Cluing was pretty good and fun. I like AMENS for Church chorus. LA LA LA...I forgot the words...STRIKE ONE so to speak. Lots to AHA about.
An uncomplicated but interesting puzzle. Perfect for a lazy Sunday mornin....
Long-time reader here who almost never posts. Could someone please fill me in on a common piece of jargon in the comments here: what does WOE stand for?
I have to say the theme grew on me. I reacted similarly to Rex, when at 36A I had CHE_K_NDESK and I thought "Oh nooooo, *please* tell me it isn't so." I knew there was a lot of groanin' store for me [Where ghouls enjoy shoppin']. But as I finished and checked out Rex's blog and saw each themer, one after the other, it did get me smilin'.
I found this one delightful. The theme wasn’t devilish but it was clever, and the clueing was delightful. A few misdirects that had me erasing, but no super obscure trivia, and the trivia there was was gettable. I didn’t struggle with Nacre or Nope - I think Nope has been clued a few time recently, and Tonkatsu is a favorite. A nice Sunday puzzle.
I very rarely finish an entire Sunday puzzle, even solid ones like today. Mainly just an ENNUI issue. So I usually rate them by how far I get before I bail. I did about 3/4 of this one, so that makes it an above average puzzle in my book.
Maybe I missed it if anyone asked about 22D "Mouthing off" being SASS. Seems like either the clue should read "Mouth off" or the answer should be SASSING.
I side EYED 90A AFROED big time. Took off my SHOE and banged the DESK while yelling NYET to that ugly noun to verb conversion.
Like to stay longer but I have to RETIE my SHOE.
Congrats, @StaceyinCT! It’s a lovely, addictive feeling. Don’t worry too much about whether your time is “good” compared to other people, I’d say, since solving aptitude is so subjective and often wheelhouse-based. I use my times to measure my progress against myself, and that’s fun to look at. But lots of the folks here don’t time themselves at all, and that makes it more enjoyable for them. Whatever floats your boat basically!
On to today’s puzzle: I liked it just fine. The dad jokes were okay by me, and I’m a bit slow on the uptake today so I appreciated it being a little easeful. Agree that Lisa LOEB would be very welcome. In general not a lot of pizzazz in the puzzle, and I so fervently agreed with Rex re: the absurdity of cluing OPCITS with “informally” that I read his thoughts out loud to my partner. But in general I was happy to have a cutely jokey softball today in exchange for less sparkle.
A final thought truly shared value-neutrally: I was surprised to see so many regulars struggle with NACRE. It’s obviously an obscure word in common English but since I’ve been working my way back through the archives over here, I’ve noticed that it seems to be fairly standard crosswordese. It’s appeared at least a dozen times in the past few years, and 52 times overall in the Shortz era, fwiw.
Anyway, hope folks enjoy the rest of their weekends. Lazy day over here, too.
@Pavel
What On. Earth
@Anoa
I'm finished mouthing off/giving SASS.
My 2 year old granddaughter’s obsession with the red panda at our zoo has paid off! Also…yeah Dad jokes but ‘checkin’ desk’ made me laugh.
@JC66: Thanks!
Likewise…it was a rather easy puzzle but certainly enjoyed the cute themers.
Is AFROED actually a word?
{A smooth debut at the film festival} = ?*
Nice easy-goin theme macguffin. Liked.
staff weeject pick: ISH. It's kinda runtish and slightly desperatish.
some faves: BLANKCDS & clue. REDPANDA. STRIKEONE. VELDT. SUNDANCE.
ITPRO … har.
fave themer: TALKINCIRCLES. Comic(al).
Thanx for all the in' boxes, Mr. Ryan dude.
Masked & Anonymo9Us
p.s.
* = EASYOPENINCANNES. [Not quite with the program … This is why M&A sticks to runtpuzs]
**gruntz**
Came here for some Rex-level exasperation for SILENT E in reference to "Kane," but was denied my fix. To me, a "silent" letter is totally superfluous to the words pronunciation (e.g., the D in Django). That final E in Kane is pretty important -- changes the pronunciation from short-A ("can") to long-A ("cane"). Ohe welle, nexte tim.....
Enjoyed it! Thanks!
There have been better Sundays and there have been worse ones. The NYT can and should do better than this. Sadly, they remain mediocre.
I noticed that but close enough for crosswords I guess. Museums do have galleries in which they display art.
I have my PhD in English lit, wrote a 300 page dissertation, and never once heard “op cit.” Ever.
It is a clue,a kind of hint, not a definition. It is perfectly legitimate in a Sunday puzzle,
Nacre has appeared before in the Times crossword; that's how I knew it.
Don't feel like taking a ruler to my globe, but I think Sao Tome is closer than Accra.
What On Earth.
@Stacy CT -- If you were involved and engrossed during each of the however-many-minutes the puzzle took you, then your time was a "good" time. In both senses of the phrase.
Throw away the stopwatch and don't worry your pretty little head about how long a puzzle takes. A puzzle will take whatever time it takes. Eventually, with experience and practice, it will take less time. The increased speed that comes with practice will be immensely satisfying to a certain number of solvers and profoundly UNinportant to the rest of us. I don't time myself because I don't care about my crossword-solving speed any more than I care about how fast I can gobble down a lobster dinner.
In my book, faster only means faster. Faster doesn't mean "better". If you can solve the toughest puzzles without looking anything up, that makes you a top solver. Because, as is sometimes asked: "Where's the fire?"
I agree that the clue for lira is disgraceful.
One lira used to be a sixth of a cent. That is NOT bread. That is a scrap.
For the longest time, I couldn't think of "Rosebud." That's fortunate, because it prevented me from entering it in, instead of the hackneyed SILENTE.
ACCRA was just in the other day, which made it easy to recall.
Villager
+1. Liked it better than most Sunday’s.
Liked it more than @Rex. MOTHERIN LAW my favorite. Got the theme at WAITIN LINE. If my son's play gets traction we may be in the BACKIN BUSINESS. SILENT E did not fool me (this time).
It's hard to come up with examples that don't require a spelling change, like the ones in the theme...
@JC66, thanks for helping but it still doesn't work for me. "Giving SASS" is a phrase I'm not familiar with. (Maybe a regional thing?) And the clue for SASS was simply "Mouthing off" with no "giving" implied.
Just checked at xwordinfo.com and "Mouth off to" has been used four times as a clue for SASS during the Shortz era. That sounds more natural to me. (SASS has appeared 414 times!.) Today is the second time it has been clued "Mouthing off" so it must sound legit to the NYTXW folks. But appearing only two times out of 414 suggests it could be stretching things a bit. Just doesn't sound right to me.
@andrew 9:15
Love it!
The comic book bubbles in Italian comics are called “fumetti “, which means “little smokes”.
I ran out of Sebastiens since it wasn’t Orgier or Vettel. Forgot about Paganeud as well!
If one is financing a Broadway Show they are said to be “backing it.” As in “Oh we brought in two more backers today, we can almost get started.”
I think bread just implies money.
Nacre is fairly common crosswordese, I learned of it many moons ago from these here xwords
Accra was an easy guess, it’s used often in xwords with its two As and two Cs
We have a museum in DC called The National Gallery, these terms are interchangeable on a macro scale, but yes, drill down and galleries and can be different operations, one usually commercial, the other not
Agree on Nope! Curious why tonkatsu is such a mystery to many, expand your palates people!
If MOMA isn’t a gallery then how do you reckon with The National Gallery (also a museum)?
OPCITS and NACRE almost next to each other? I had no idea, and it's no fun just looking something up in order to finish.
I had a similar experience with BLANKCDS. It took a lot of effort to solve, but ultimately I have to give them credit for the clue.
Mostly an average Sunday. But SKOOL should never cross SKIS clued that way. And TONKATSU should never cross anything, ever.
@Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice - ACCRA is definitely close than Sao Tome. Lome and Porto-Novo are also closer than Sao Tome.
Mostly an average Sunday. But SKOOL should never cross SKIS clued that way. And TONKATSU should never cross anything, ever.
I am foursquare with OFNP on this one. Simplistic theme not at all needing to be given away by the title, and horrendous fill, culminating in one of my pet peeves: the old SILENT [+letter] treatment. Especially, in this case, when ROSEBUD has the same number of letters. And in the marquee center position at that. Double bogey.
Wordle par.
SEX TOTHEMAX? YESANDNO.
EDNA was my PARTNERINCRIME,
AND we'd NOT SLEEP AT SIESTA time,
NOR EGRET NOR THREAT TO SCREW OUI saw,
I WANT TO LAY my MOTHERINLAW.
--- G.I.JOE STERN
@Anoa Bob 7:05pm:
Quit your mouthing off!
Quit your sass.
Mouthing off is a two word noun in this instance.
I have several pens covered in nacre, plus other objets d'art. Also have several large seashells with the interiors covered in nacre. They are very beautiful and opalescent.
Hooray. Another doable, fun puzzle.
I thought of you, @Spacey, when the SILENTE came up. I was also thinking of that sled, but then...
Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords
Very mildly amusing in spots. Giving it 'dad joke' cred might be too much.
Noticed: YESANDNO NOHIT, ATLARGE ATRISK, STRIKEONE ONETOED. Circled: DANA Delany.
Wordle par.
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